US Marine Corps Receives First Browning M2A1 Machine Guns

According to the Internet portal warspot.ruThe US Marine Corps received the first batch of M2 Browning heavy machine guns, which were upgraded to the M21 version.

In the foreground - ХМ806, behind it - М2А1

This product is in service with the American Army since 1933. M2 Browning was developed in 1932 year based on Browning M1921 (which, in turn, was created in 1921 year). M2 Browning caliber .50 BMG (12,7 × 99 mm NATO) has an aimed range 1830 m and is designed to defeat manpower and lightly armored vehicles. During its production, more than 3 million units were produced.

The machine gun upgrade program for M2 Browning was launched in the US in 2011. The main difference of the М2А1 from the base model is a quick-detachable barrel, which is replaced without additional adjustments of the shutter, the presence of a fuse, flame arrester and Picatinny rail, designed to install various optical and night sights.

A distinctive feature of the machine gun M2А1 - handle for quick replacement of the barrel

For the Marine Corps, a separate upgrade option was developed. Its main feature is an improved flame arrester, which allows the 95% to reduce flash when fired. It is supposed to deliver Browning М3600А2 machine guns to this branch of arms 1.

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[DEPARTMENT]

And we have everything as before ...!

Get out!

[siberalt]

But what about the American "ground" infantry?

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: siberalt

But what about the American "ground" infantry?

Will have to give up if they climb to us .. Joke!
But this, the Russians remembered for a long time .. I crushed our hundreds of thousands when we went on a frontal attack ..

A good machine gun was still ..

[kg pv]

Why was it? He is still quite alive

[kote119]

yes the Kalashnikov mg-scale in the world of machine guns

[Nukesmoke]

You are not right - the chill in the world of sandpipes became a chill and his son brandy.

[cost]

US Marine Corps Receives First Browning M2A1 Machine Guns

Urgent sanctions in the UN Security Council against them need to be introduced for this

[Black Colonel]

Actually, in this image the replica of the MG-42 in the form of MG-3 under NATO 7.62x51, and on the historical black and white MG-34. These are two different machine guns. MG-42 replaced MG-34, except on some armored vehicles, because MG-34 had power both on the left and on the right.

[segamegament]

Billions crumbled, billions ...

[Vladislav Bolshakov]

And all the Soviet ...

[Nukesmoke]

Reykholyub Detected. Millions of billions that trifles.

[sabakina]

Quote: adma

Quote: DEPARTMENT

And we have everything as before ...!
Get out!

As usual - we will fill up with corpses.

Yeah, the enemy!

[pv1005]

Quote: adma

That's why I look at enemies less and less, and we are more and more.

Katz offers to surrender?

[adma]

Katz proposes not to engage in hatred. Only a complete idiot can look down on NATO. But NATO will break so that it does not seem enough. And again, let’s put 20 million, that would reach the sofa stratengs. that the enemy must be studied and not ridiculed?

[Nukesmoke]

We see, we see how NATO "breaks". Now, NATO is the pale shadow of serious guys from the late 80s. Or did you mean staff members?

[adma]

Quote: Nukesmoke

We see, we see how NATO "breaks". Now, NATO is the pale shadow of serious guys from the late 80s. Or did you mean staff members?

And the States are not NATO? Or am I missing something?
And in occasion of “breaking”, we will have enough Poles, Balts, Romanians and other Young Europeans with sloths in the form of Ukrainians and Georgians. And do not console yourself with the illusions that they will run. In a full-scale war without the use of nuclear weapons, we are unlikely to be able to break them. To survive. And the fact that they are a "pale shadow" is easily fixable. Their economy will allow this to be done quickly enough. And they have more human resources than ours.
And what do we "see, see"? The United States copes with the task of preserving the unstable Middle East region.

[Nukesmoke]

Limitrophs are meat, and we are not going to the English Channel. And if you re-read the Resuscitator, then he is a good doctor and writer of one book.
The economy will do what? To mobilize an army, which, for a second, is not based on universal military service.
What we see is that the USA cannot cope with the role of the world gendarme in any way, from the word at all.

[adma]

Quote: Nukesmoke

re-read resuscitator

I have no idea who it is.

Quote: Nukesmoke

To mobilize an army, which, for a second, is not based on universal military service.

I am wildly sorry, but what does mobilization have to do with military service?

Quote: Nukesmoke

The economy will do what?

All. If my memory serves me right, then war is not a struggle of people, but a struggle of economies.

Quote: Nukesmoke

What we see - the USA cannot cope with the role of the world gendarme in any way,

Exactly - what WE see. More precisely, we see what we are shown.

[Nukesmoke]

Quote: adma

I have no idea who it is.

We drove through.

Quote: adma

I am wildly sorry, but what does mobilization have to do with military service?

The most direct.

Quote: adma

All. If my memory serves me right, then war is not a struggle of people, but a struggle of economies.

War is a struggle, first and foremost, of management and planning systems. And the military economy is different from the peaceful one.

Quote: adma

Exactly - what WE see. More precisely, we see what we are shown.

I see what John Quincy Adams said.

[adma]

Sorry dear, but I do not see any reason to continue our discussion in view of the stupidest moderation))) Opinions that are objectionable to couch experts are deleted. It is a pity that the resource I previously respected fell to the level of small-town forums.
I have the honor!

[Nukesmoke]

You have no honor. You have a long tongue and a short mind. Are free.

[adma]

And this is not for you, dear to decide! Neither about honor, nor about language. and even more so about the mind
Good luck, dear.!

[Nukesmoke]

Your statements for conclusions and decisions, my dear, were quite enough for me.

[doubovitski]

Quote: adma

Katz proposes not to engage in hatred. Only a complete idiot can look down on NATO. But NATO will break so that it does not seem enough. And again, let’s put 20 million, that would reach the sofa stratengs. that the enemy must be studied and not ridiculed?

Is that why, 20 million? Much more. ALL. Just because we’ll wet them with a nuclear club. For simple, performance will not allow. Yes, and feel sorry for our own, now we are far from 320 million, as in the USSR.

[Vladislav Bolshakov]

With the king in the head there was one thing, but without the king in the head there was another ...

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: adma

Quote: DEPARTMENT

And we have everything as before ...!
Get out!

As usual - we will fill up with corpses.

Better to die in battle than to live under occupation .. And then how it goes ..

[yuriy55]

A distinctive feature of the machine gun M2А1 - handle for quick replacement of the barrel

Bravo! Should we be glad for them, or what? They won’t go to our territory with them, but if they “break”, then give an answer: does the barrel melt and the machine gun itself a hundred meters from the epicenter of a nuclear explosion and how does it withstand the effects of thermobaric ammunition?

[bouncyhunter]

Jury The article does not say a word about the work to reduce the weight of the machine gun. What, did this “baby” stay with his 38 kg of body weight and 58 kg on the machine?

[Juborg]

Judging by the photo, he obviously gained weight without a machine tool.

[bouncyhunter]

Honestly, it seemed so to me too ... Apparently, Negro porters were included in the calculation of the machine gun. Like in Abrash a negro-loader.

[cost]

bouncyhunter : Apparently, Negro porters are included in the calculation of the machine gun.

And most importantly, Negro flame arresters

[_Ugene_]

from your statement it follows that we will blow up YaB in our territory

[NIKNN]

"The M2 Browning machine gun modernization program was launched in the United States in 2011." ...
How much did they saw ???
"The difference between the M2A1 and the base model is a quick-detachable barrel, the replacement of which is done without additional shutter adjustments, the presence of a fuse, a flame arrester and a Picatinny rail,"

Yes, our defense industry is super .....

[bazilio]

Gentlemen, why so much banter and irony ??? Well, yes, the trouble is with amers with a "big shot", and so what. Krupnyak does not solve anything by itself .....

[doubovitski]

Quote: _Ugene_

from your statement it follows that we will blow up YaB in our territory

And where is it written there? Do you really need to let them go first to burn a million degrees and drive home? Not at all. Need to evaporate at their home, and not allowed to us.

[Basarev]

It is somehow strange to see in the army where the fifth generation flies in the hundreds, the machine gun is a relic of the thirties.

[Pirogov]

Quote: Basarev

It is somehow strange to see in the army where the fifth generation flies in the hundreds, the machine gun is a relic of the thirties.

From good, they don’t look for good, you just remember how old our machine guns are, for example, the PC and RPK, except for the machine guns Pecheneg, Kord, Badger? And if you recall the grandfather of the DShK, it is still in service with many countries and probably it is enough in warehouses in Russia, just like any fireman.

[doubovitski]

Quote: Basarev

It is somehow strange to see in the army where the fifth generation flies in the hundreds, the machine gun is a relic of the thirties.

Gunpowder is not strange to see today, although it was invented almost a thousand years ago?

[MPK105]

I will not tire of repeating, and you will never persuade me, uncles, the best machine gun in the world,Here is how you want to argue ... GATLING-GREAT man was.

[rotmistr60]

Do not confuse machine guns with different purposes. We are on b / helicopters are no worse. And do not judge machine guns by American militants.

[sabakina]

Somehow I watched a video, they talked about such a machine gun, and in particular, told how they shot the film "Predator", which featured this miracle. So, even when shooting idle, the whole structure kept the actor behind.

[For your motherland, your mother))]

And I had to connect a separate power supply to it so that everything would spin.
Well, this six-barrel unit is not manual, not manual. Although of course, the dream of any infantry is a barrage of fire and bullets)))).

[arane]

Quote: For the Motherland, your mother))

And I had to connect a separate power supply to it so that everything would spin.
Well, this six-barrel unit is not manual, not manual. Although of course, the dream of any infantry is a barrage of fire and bullets)))).

Why should he pull up the power supply? Say it too!
This is a TERMINATOR! He has his own car!

[Alf]

Quote: For the Motherland, your mother))

the dream of any infantry --- a flurry of fire and bullets)))).

And the supply chain nightmare, with its rate of fire.

[doubovitski]

Quote: Alf

Quote: For the Motherland, your mother))

the dream of any infantry --- a flurry of fire and bullets)))).

And the supply chain nightmare, with its rate of fire.

If the railway is pulled over Schwarneger, then what is a nightmare from? And a couple of dozen second numbers, so that the trunks would be changed and the ammunition transported.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Yeah ... without batteries, only Gryazev and Shipunov came out. And the rate of fire and everything else - as far as I remember offhand.

[bouncyhunter]

Hello, Glory! So there, power was supplied to rotate the barrel block through an electric cable hidden in the actor’s trouser leg, and the actor himself had to put on a mask and body armor so as not to be disfigured by fired sleeves flying at high speed. If interested - here is a link about multi-barrels and weapons: http://modernfirearms.net/machine/jap/minigun-and
-other-r.html

[sabakina]

Hi Pash! But I still love the film itself, as well as science fiction in general. Happy May Day!

[bouncyhunter]

Mutually! I myself am a candy wrapper. I have in my collection all the films of the Predator series, as well as many others. Namely, “Predator” itself brought me a license with three soundtracks - polyphonic dubbing, the original and (attention!) Parallel-nasal translation of Gavrilov!

[tforik]

And I’m being pinned by such an old voice acting from the beginning of the 90s)))
Arnie is handsome! Excellent role played!

[sabakina]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Mutually! I myself am a candy wrapper. I have in my collection all the films of the Predator series, as well as many others. Namely, “Predator” itself brought me a license with three soundtracks - polyphonic dubbing, the original and (attention!) Parallel-nasal translation of Gavrilov!

Well, what? You can only envy. The first time I saw in the video salon for 1 ruble. And the weather is May Day!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: sabakina

You can only envy.

It’s not worth it - now it’s not a problem to pump it out of the Internet.

Quote: sabakina

And the weather is May Day!

It’s cloudy in our country, and he’ll drop it ... But the weather will not spoil us May Day!

[sabakina]

Pasha, it’s not a tyrnet, but a gift.
Regarding the weather, well, it’s good that the stones do not fall from heaven, and that’s okay. Right now I'll throw a link to the webcam of our city.

[sabakina]

Pasha, keep the link.
Oops, failure. We try again.
gradkostroma.ru

[bulvas]

Quote: sabakina

But I still love the film itself, as well as science fiction in general

Koretsky has a "Hunter Hunter", - in the second part he further developed the theme of Predators
Interestingly

[Svarog51]

Pasha Happy May Day!

I myself am a candy wrapper

Who?
Perhaps you wanted to say - a fan, connoisseur, admirer?
R.S. And our Electronics is kinder.

[bouncyhunter]

And you, Seryoga!

Quote: Svarog51

Perhaps you wanted to say - a fan, connoisseur, admirer?

Who needs - he understood.

Quote: Svarog51

And our Electronics is kinder.

And we ourselves are white and fluffy.

[Svarog51]

Yeah! That's right - white and fluffy! Only our armored train ...

ran to replenish ammunition and food supplies.

[bouncyhunter]

You absolutely correctly understood my hint!

[Svarog51]

my hint

Armored and armed.

[sabakina]

Guys, do the trains run? They ride! For these, as their .... sleepers!

[bouncyhunter]

Glory, I will tell you a great secret: if you squeeze - then fly!

[doubovitski]

Quote: sabakina

Guys, do the trains run? They ride! For these, as their .... sleepers!

Ek, how shocked you are! On the sleepers. I wonder what will happen on May 9?

[01-02-2000]

on "volcanoes" of air-based electric drive power up to 30 kW, sort of ...

[Normal ok]

Quote: bouncyhunter

and the actor himself had to put on a mask and body armor, so as not to be disfigured by spent cartridges flying at high speed

Watch the video:

Well, why is there a mask and bronik?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Normal ok

Well, why is there a mask and bronik?

Follow the link to my comment and read.

[the monastery]

Moreover, when shooting in the jungle, the machine gun stood at the stop, because the actor could not keep him.

[igor67]

Quote: Normal ok

Quote: bouncyhunter

and the actor himself had to put on a mask and body armor, so as not to be disfigured by spent cartridges flying at high speed

Watch the video:

Well, why is there a mask and bronik?

a new kind of fishing. merciless.

[arane]

Greetings to Paul. I read a long time ago already. Just joked

[MPK105]

This is me for imagery, so that everyone understands what it is ... And in the service of the sovereign, I had such a machine gun in stock, okromya guns 76-...Something like this...

[arane]

Quote: MPK105

This is me for imagery, so that everyone understands what it is ... And in the service of the sovereign, I had such a machine gun in stock, okromya guns 76-...Something like this...

AK630
Well, it's still not a machine gun ....
And a bigger caliber, and shoots shells, and a higher rate of fire will be
A terrible thing.

[Normal ok]

Quote: MPK105

And in the service of the sovereign, I had such a machine gun in stock, okromya guns 76-

And I had this:

[siberalt]

And the worse our "old" DShK or "Cliffs"?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: siberalt

And the worse our DShK or "Cliffs"?

This is Carbine for you — Kochegar will chew. And the fact that Degtyarev consulted with Browning is not up to date.

[113262a]

DShK-thing, cliff-shit! Often shot on exercises from him. Even the shot, with a collimator sight on the ZPU T-80-shit! The heap is small, the longer the line, the greater the scatter. At 700, somehow, at 1200, 30 hit a helicopter target of 10 bullets. And this is on a stalled turret! Kord and DShK have almost the entire turn-to-target!

[WUA 518]

Quote: rotmistr60

We are on b / helicopters are no worse. And do not judge machine guns by American militants.

In the early 1980s special forces were formed in the explosives, in the combat training programs of which it was planned to train personnel in joint operations with helicopters in the search for and neutralization of armed criminal groups. However, the use of transport helicopters without combat suspension gave special forces units an advantage only in maneuvering forces. At the same time, airborne vehicles were in danger of being struck by fire from the ground. Organized criminal groups had the same automatic weapons as the special forces of the explosives. It was required to provide fire superiority over them. This could be done by using helicopters of the most powerful of all systems of domestic small arms - the 14,5 mm Vladimirov tank heavy machine gun (KPVT), capable of destroying small targets at a considerable distance with great accuracy. However, the placement in the cargo compartment of the Mi-8 transport helicopter of a two-meter KPVT body weighing 52,2 kg and recoil energy during firing at 156 kgm of work would lead to the destruction of its attachment points and damage to the walls of the cargo compartment itself.
The required solution was found by a group of rationalizers from a separate motorized rifle division VV im. Dzerzhinsky, led by Eugene Maltsev, Nikolai Khorunzhim and Vladimir Selikhanovich, who themselves developed and manufactured in 1984 a removable fuselage telescopic round-fire firing installation "Golden eagle". The first sample was put into the air in April 1985. On November 27, 1985, aviation specialists from law enforcement agencies were presented with a Berkut firing mount equipped with two standard removable gondolas, each with one 12,7-mm YakB machine gun. using two-bullet cartridges, and two 7,62 mm GShG machine guns, capable of producing up to 4 thousand bullets per minute from their six 32-barrel quick-fire machine guns (up to 533 bullets per second). They can hit MANPADS missiles flying up to the helicopter carrier "Golden eagle" from any side of its lower hemisphere.
At the beginning of 1989, the Golden Eagle passed full-scale flight fire tests at the 344th Center for Combat Use of Army Aviation. They showed that in just three hours, the installation can be mounted on any Mi-8 type transport helicopter without changing its design. As a result, the helicopter turns into a flying firing point capable of actively counteracting the enemy anti-aircraft fire and attacking ultra-small air, ground and surface targets in the entire lower hemisphere, regardless of the position of the side in flight, which cannot be done by any of the samples of domestic and foreign helicopters without changing heading, altitude, diving and pitching angles.
The KPVT machine gun used in the Berkut with a 12-day day scope is capable of hitting targets at distances of up to 4 km, including vertically down without the formation of ricochets of bullets, which eliminates the accidental defeat of unauthorized persons, even close to the fired positions. During the tests, it was confirmed that the installation does not affect the flight performance of the helicopter, therefore, additional flight training for the crews is not required. The reliability of the "Golden Eagle" in flight is achieved through the use of standard components and mechanisms, commercially available by the industry for armored vehicles. Reliability is ensured by the extreme rigidity of its steel structure and ease of operation. In flight, it is possible to replace the main machine gun with a spare one.
According to the results of the tests, the then general designer of the Mil Design Bureau, Marat Tishchenko, suggested that the Air Force General Staff make a more powerful gun version of the installation within four years. However, this proposal was not further developed. In 1990, Colonel N.I., military adviser on internal troops of the representative office of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs in Afghanistan The Khorunzhiy conducted a unique experiment with the ground version of the Golden Eagle. The fire of two machine-gun guards with four-barreled machine guns mounted on the tank turret shot down two anti-aircraft missiles fired from the English trophy Blopeipe MANPADS

[doubovitski]

Quote: WUA 518

...

Interestingly, but he didn’t shoot off his wheels? How was this issue solved?

[WUA 518]

Quote: doubovitski

Interestingly, but he didn’t shoot off his wheels? How was this issue solved?

Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander Nikishin, recalling the familiarization in 1985 by aviation experts of all power structures with the "Golden Eagle", writes: "The placement of gondolas and containers with rocket-cannon-grenade-machine gun standard weapons of army helicopters on the fuselage cabin attracted the attention of leading experts "The General Staff of the Air Force of the Ministry of Defense of the USSR, which subsequently went into business cooperation."

Yes, that was true. What did we, former leaders of the General Staff of the Air Force, see in the very idea of ​​the "Golden Eagle"?

Firstly. She is tested by life. Since 1929, the ANT-9 aircraft used a machine-gun turret that extended downward under the fuselage, which was repeated on many bombers in the following decades.

Secondly. Domestic helicopters design bureau them. M.L. A mile with non-retractable pneumatic wheels in the landing on the ground version has a significant clearance between the lower contour of the fuselage and the ground surface.

The folded telescopic ventral cockpit, which fits freely into this gap, while expanding in the air, brings the weapon trunks out from under its rear pneumatic wheels, lowered when the helicopter takes off, which ensures circular firing from this weapon.

And thirdly. Mi-8 type transport helicopters have a standard hatch in the center of the cargo compartment floor for transporting goods on an external cable suspension, and the authors of "Berkut", without any modification of the side, using this hatch, solved several problems at once:

- they placed a support frame above this hatch on the cargo compartment floor and through this hatch hung a telescopically folding dummy cabin that rotates in azimuth using the BMP-2 turret components and mechanisms with the Berkut gunner in this fuselage cabin, from among special forces trained for fire work from the air, who used the same hatch to enter the cabin and exit it in helicopter flight;

- placed the center of gravity of the fuselage cabin within the size of the specified hatch, thereby vertically combining this center of gravity with the center of the axis of rotation of the rotor of the helicopter, which fully retained the high aerobatic qualities of the side in all flight modes.

[doubovitski]

Quote: WUA 518

.....

However, you need to write instructions with your knowledge.
Thank you.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: MPK105

Here is how you want to argue.

Here they are all in the garbage. Type so.

[Smog]

Quote: MPK105

GATLING-GREAT man was.

Nopeaaaa! Maxim is cooler man!

[MPK105]

Greetings, Bone !!! Happy Holiday !!! What is it that such a revolutionary Maxim suggested in the arms industry that he would surpass the Gatling concept of a rotating block of barrels proposed to people, which until now has not been surpassed by anyone, eh ...?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: MPK105

That what is such a revolutionary Maxim suggested in weapons

Maxim came up with a machine gun. And the point.

[113262a]

Shot from this at 14! In the fields beyond the Jubilee. Sewing machine! Although, according to the passport-600 rds / min. True, steam unmasks! Even in the summer.

[sabakina]

This product has been in service with the American army since 1933. The M2 Browning was developed in 1932 based on the Browning M1921 (which, in turn, was created in 1921).

Do they have a strain with the shooter designers?

[rotmistr60]

So the best of the 19th and 20th centuries died, and the successors were not designers, but businessmen. Therefore, the Beret was adopted in the armament of the army in exchange for the Colt 11.43, and not the American counterpart, and with machine guns after Browning's death, tension. And I don’t even want to talk about the M-16 and its analogues.

[voyaka uh]

It is called not Colt 11.43, but Colt 0.5. Americans in inches.

[Niccola Mack]

It is called not Colt 11.43, but Colt 0.5.

This is something new in inch measurement - the Colt .45 ACP caliber (11.43 mm.)
But the caliber M2 is just .50 (12,7 mm) - half an inch.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Nikkola Mac

This is something new in inch measurement.

Ahead, colleague!

[sabakina]

Pasha, but the Jew is pierced! Can send it? For a beer?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: sabakina

Can send it? For a beer?

Better after cognac, Glory!

[Svarog51]

Can send it? For a beer?

Better after cognac, Glory!

And stay teetotalers! Found someone to send.

[WUA 518]

Quote: voyaka uh

It is called not Colt 11.43, but Colt 0.5. Americans in inches.

Can be colt 1911 cal 45 (0.45 in) divide by 4 you get a caliber in mm

[bazilio]

Quote: WUA 518

divide by 4 you get a caliber in mm

not really, it’s the approximate caliber in mm. to get the exact ratio you need 0,45 d multiplied by 25,4 mm = 11,43 mm

[bazilio]

Lord, why are you all so "happy" for our overseas "partners" ???? Well, yes, their browning of 50 BMG is out of date ... and what ???? never mind!!!! if there is an opportunity - they will quickly buy licenses from which of these metals and begin to rivet more modern machine guns.

[Nukesmoke]

It’s not so easy to take and start riveting a machine gun. Restructuring of production for this will be required.

[tsvetkov1274]

we have a cord-relax ...

[Mountain shooter]

Our Kord is cooler. And in general, none of the experts argues with this ...
The mattress covers in general with the designers in large calibers was tense. Probably stayed. Browning was, of course, a brilliant guy, but still ...
Gatling, also a brilliant invention, but ours with rotating trunks - no worse than Amer.

[Berkut24]

I agree, as they say - feel the difference ...

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Berkut24

I agree, as they say - feel the difference ...

For comparison: 6P50 "Cord" on a light machine 6T19 (pictured) - weight 32,5 kg. Browning M2HB - 38 kg machine gun body, 58 kg on the M3 infantry machine.

[bazilio]

yes yes, Korda has no competitors in the krupnyak class. and in all respects. in addition, our 12,5 x 108 mm is more powerful than their 50 BMG.
Is that in the West a richer nomenclature of all sights, but this is not critical

[RUS96]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

And we have everything as before ...!

I’ve been doing kurkach for 8 years

[tchoni]

Americans are well aware that it’s worth swinging, and that will do so.

[PValery53]

Let them not bully us with their machine gun. We have our own - not worse, but even better.

[erudite 017]

By the way, many good machine guns from the first half of the 20 century, M2 Browning, the German MG 3 (in fact the former MG 42), and our DShK still serve!

[Normal ok]

Quote: erudit 017

By the way, many good machine guns from the first half of the 20 century, M2 Browning, the German MG 3 (in fact the former MG 42), and our DShK still serve!

And Maxim still serves in Ukraine. Not from a good life, of course, but if stationary, with a supply of running water, this can be a song.

[kolkulon]

The flame arrester of course is something. At us on Dyagterev it was more elegant in VO.

[voyaka uh]

I had a chance to shoot from Colt 0.5. With a turret and a tripod. He has a solitary mode.
It is very convenient to do sighting. Bullets with tracers. Even a kilometer you can see where you get.
No, I know why he needs a quick-detachable barrel: they usually shoot in short bursts - not like a fan, like from MAG, but at targets. The trunk does not overheat.
But an optical wide-angle sight is needed. Bullets retain ballistics right up to 1.5 km, and the eye does not see a damn thing so far.
The machine gun is very reliable. But incredibly heavy. Carry disassembled into three parts.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: voyaka uh

The machine gun is very reliable. But incredibly heavy. Carry disassembled into three parts.

Well, in Israel you don’t have to drag him far there ...)))) Everything is in sight ...

[Dart2027]

Quote: voyaka uh

usually shoot in short bursts - not like a fan, like from a MAG, but at targets

Perhaps in the United States a different tactic.

[sabakina]

Dart2027 Perhaps in the US, another tactic. Not possible, but definitely different. They have a tactic to suppress with continuous fire, only then to attack. You can see ammunition to hell with you.

[Dart2027]

Quote: sabakina

They have a tactic to crush with continuous fire

I'll know.

[bazilio]

Quote: sabakina

They have a tactic to suppress with continuous fire, only then to attack. You can see ammunition to hell with you.

Is it a bad tactic to spend ammo, not personnel

[k_ply]

Quote: voyaka uh

I had a chance to shoot from Colt 0.5. With a turret and a tripod.

But what kind of Colt is that 0.5 ?! There is the famous 1911-caliber Colt M1A45 pistol, in addition to the 9-mm Browning High Power M1935 pistol, and there is one of the three machine guns of the famous designer J. Browning - the 2-caliber Browning M50 machine gun (.50 Browning).

[voyaka uh]

Our name was Colt Zero Five ("Hess Hamesh"). There were many in the fortresses in the Golan,
on the Jordanian border. Maybe they called it because of the ammunition that Colt produced? But the word "Browning" was never uttered.
And so - you are right, formally I was mistaken, I admit.
The 1911 pistol was called the Colt Forty-Five, I even had his Spanish licensed copy of LLAMA, of very poor quality.

[k_ply]

And you have never met such a machine - the 7,62 mm Browning M1919, the so-called 30 gauge? I heard that she remained with you in the armored forces for a long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1919_Browning_mach
ine_gun

[voyaka uh]

I saw in the armory of a village in the West Bank. Here his name was really: "Browning zero three."
There I saw the Belgian FAL rifles. And the Kalashnikovs, by the way, were there. But they were not allowed to play with them. The guy in charge of the weapon was strict: he took Uzi - and wahhhh ... as far as I know, soon everything "museum" was extinct. There are no cartridges
But the Kalash did not give, because they could shoot their own, mistaking them for a Palestinian “enemy”.
They gave Uzi (cartridges are also in short supply), Galil, M-16. I took Uzi because of its compactness.
Well, it’s not to go to war, but to patrol around the village.

[doubovitski]

Quote: voyaka uh

...
Well, it’s not to go to war, but to patrol around the village.

Yes, you will not be envious.

[mr.redpartizan]

Our "Cord" is much easier and more accurate due to the fixed barrel. The Americans with their M2 got stuck in the 30s, although things are not going smoothly with the shooter, as can be seen in the 30-year-long competition for a new machine.

[doubovitski]

Quote: mr.redpartizan

..... although things are not going smoothly with the arrow, as can be seen in the example of a 30-year-long competition for a new machine.

So in THIS, just the opposite! Had there been a fever with replacements. As the design authorities, and the iron itself. Slowly choose when there is something to lose.

[bouncyhunter]

sabakina,
Yes, you can’t compare with our weather ...

[sabakina]

Though I’m not Oleg Popov, who had the sun in a string bag, but I would like to share a sunny bunny .... But what if he looks? Our mother and stepmother got out ..

[bouncyhunter]

We will not soon have normal spring weather, according to weather forecasters. Let them make a mistake ...

[sabakina]

If I am not mistaken, the percentage of a positive forecast for weather forecasters is somewhere around 35%.

[bouncyhunter]

So weather forecasters as sappers are mistaken once, but every day.

[Turgon]

The Anglo-Saxons were always well versed in small arms.

[WUA 518]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Glory, I will tell you a great secret: if you squeeze - then fly!

As Anna Karenina used to say:
See you later!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: WUA 518

As Anna Karenina used to say:
See you later!

Is this the one that the train crushed? Well her ...

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: WUA 518

See you later!

Alexander Has Carlson sinned with a diesel locomotive?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Has Carlson sinned with a diesel locomotive?

No, it's all the tricks of Frau Bock.

[sabakina]

bouncyhunter,
Hmm, I only saw one flying train in Back to the Future 3.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: sabakina

Hmm, I only saw one flying train in Back to the Future 3.

"There is much in the world, friend Horatio, which our sages did not dream of" (c) V. Shakespeare, Hamlet.

[sabakina]

So, it was not in vain that I dreamed that cars were flying. True, for some reason there was nothing heavier than the GAZ-53.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: bouncyhunter

There is much in the world, friend of Horatio, which our sages did not dream of "(c) V. Shakespeare

In our paradise, this immortal sounds something like this: "Bro Horatio, in life a dofig of such lotions that real sages specifically go to the roof."

[Svarog51]

Oops, I laid it out just below - from "Back to the Future-3"
Vyacheslav Happy Holidays!

[shadow]

And how much does it weigh?

[Doctor Evil]

I did not understand, in the article we are talking about the Marine Corps, and in the photographs the army men, and, on the bottom, the paratrooper from the 82nd Airborne Forces. Everyone has already been re-equipped with a new model, now the turn has reached the marines? Or, as usual, sculpt photos from the bulldozer?

[Svarog51]

bouncyhunter,
Exactly, exactly. And they fly ...

[k_ply]

Amer loves stupid things to do (M2A1). 6 full-time M2NV battalion in the same Marine Corps are mounted on the standard heavy machine gun platoon Hammers and in the portable version there is practically no sense in using them. As the barrel was removable, it remained (quick-change - QCB modification). Another matter with us - Kord appeared as an improved modification of the Cliff (NSV), which was left in Kazakhstan, the old DShK (arr. 1938) had a fixed barrel.

[Vadim Golubkov]

Whatever the case, the amer’s machine guns are good, and machine guns for a combat unit are crap ..... alas .... so far.

[Vadim Golubkov]

Quote: Svarog51

bouncyhunter,
Exactly, exactly. And they fly ...

Yok electronics in a modern war, we are not fools either ... everything works and shoots and rides ... male quilted jackets ... And backward ... :)

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Vadim Golubkov

male quilted jackets ... And backward ... :)

And the academies did not finish ...

[Evil 55]

Native uncle of DShK .. Only in Russia there is enough mind and designers to develop new concepts of weapons, and not to modernize rotten iron ..

[Charik]

Quote: sabakina

Hi Pash! But I still love the film itself, as well as science fiction in general. Happy May Day!

something black yells louder than a machine gun

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Charik

something black yells louder than a machine gun

Yes? And I just noticed ... Is this really a man?

[Lenya Panteleev]

Judging by the diffuser, it does not hit hard on the ears.

[gurzuf]

Quote: adma

Well, yes, yes, children and women and old men under machine guns. Why the occupation? And we are old-fashioned - how it goes.

As one movie hero from the Soviet film about the Second World War said - you do not believe in our victory, then go to the end of the parapet and shoot yourself in silence. Only in silence!

[Svarog51]

Literally, it sounded like this: "The gut does not tolerate, go to the far trench, so that the soldiers do not see and shoot themselves! But in silence!"

The film "Battalions ask for fire" 1985.

[andrewkor]

And how did one think of a pen after 70 years !!! ???

[bazilio]

she used to be, she just looked different.

[faterdom]

Actually, in this caliber in the world there is a common name - their name is "DShKashki". What copiers call Xeroxes. Although our cartridge, it seems, will be more authentic, something in my opinion is 12.7X108.

[dahpaz]

here it’s called “makah.” I shot it twice ... the guys from the “givati” came to the “guests” to the base ... asked once ... for the second time the same guys changed us not far from the entrance to the shekham (over the Arab. ) a serious apparatus. the barrel was changed for a long time and so an impressive bandura. Far not to carry away ...
this one in the photo seems to be the same ... but it appears as a new modification ... such as a revised one.

[Black Colonel]

Well, what American research institutes came up with to attach a handle to replace the trunks? !!! The ingenious decision !!! PC designers apparently did not know about it

[adma]

Nukesmoke,

Quote: Nukesmoke

The most direct.

I agree. Mobilization is carried out regardless of the form of military service, but exclusively by year of birth, with the exception of persons not suitable for military service in wartime and those with the so-called "reservation"

Quote: Nukesmoke

I see what John Quincy Adams said.

Did you mean that? - "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a country. One is by the sword. The other is by debt."

Quote: Nukesmoke

War is a struggle, first and foremost, of management and planning systems. And the military economy is different from the peaceful one.

But management and planning is not an economy ??? And did I say something about the differences in the economy in peacetime and wartime?

[Nukesmoke]

Quote: adma

But management and planning is not an economy ??? And did I say something about the differences in the economy in peacetime and wartime?

Management and planning is not an economy.

Quote: adma

Did you mean that? - "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a country. One is by the sword. The other is by debt."

No, his reasoning with Monroe about Latin America.

Quote: adma

I agree. Mobilization is carried out regardless of the form of military service, but exclusively by year of birth, with the exception of persons not suitable for military service in wartime and those with the so-called "reservation"

Without universal conscription, mobilization is virtually useless. We look at the kitchen of the Kitchener. She appeared too late to be able to turn the tide of the war. But the habit of Kaiser divers to scorch everything, led to collapse.

[adma]

Quote: Nukesmoke

Management and planning is not an economy.

The word "economy" comes from the Greek oikonomia - control housekeeping. I am ashamed not to know this to the historian ....

Quote: Nukesmoke

Without universal conscription, mobilization is virtually useless.

Mobilization (M, mobilization deployment, French mobilization, from mobiliser - to set in motion) - a set of measures aimed at bringing the armed forces (AF) and state infrastructure (state) to martial law in connection with emergency situations in it or in the world.
Mobilization can be general, carried out on a statewide scale with the aim of bringing the armed forces into full combat readiness and transferring the entire industry and infrastructure of the state to martial law, and private, which can be carried out both on a separate territory and with the aim of increasing the combat readiness of the armed forces or its individual formations (associations, compounds, and so on).
Mobilization plan - a document of special importance, which spells out mobilization activities and the procedure for their implementation. It is inextricably linked with the Strategic Deployment Plan. Both documents, as a rule, are prepared at the General Staff and approved by the top leadership of the state.
Could you point with your finger to which particular place of mobilization the UNIVERSAL MILITARY DUTY has a DIRECT relationship.

Quote: Nukesmoke

Kitchener’s army

Well, what did old Kitchener get dragged into?

[Nukesmoke]

Quote: adma

The word "economy" comes from the Greek oikonomia - household management. I am ashamed not to know this to the historian ....

Thank you for the history of the origin of the word, but it has nothing to do with the conversation.

Quote: adma

Well, what did old Kitchener get dragged into?

He conducted a general mobilization in a country where there was no conscription.

Quote: adma

Could you point with your finger to which particular place of mobilization the UNIVERSAL MILITARY DUTY has a DIRECT relationship.

Easy. With universal military service, the formation of new units is an order of magnitude faster. Did not know?

[adma]

Quote: Nukesmoke

but it has nothing to do with the conversation.

You don’t have much to do with the conversation.

Quote: Nukesmoke

He conducted a general mobilization in a country where there was no conscription.

AND? Mobilization failed? Didn’t they have her? Or the quality of cannon fodder obtained during the mobilization, did not suit? What did you want to prove by Kitchener? What do you know him. and others not? Or that you messed up blue with hot? Well then, I will help you. Conscription is the quality of cannon fodder. And mobilization is quantity. Sorry, but I can’t do it easier.

Quote: Nukesmoke

With universal military service, the formation of new units is an order of magnitude faster.

That is, you can’t show. and again, the conclusion of the finger? Thank. I have heard such conclusions richly and from more competent people.
PS: I look forward to more weighty arguments. You can even with the transition to personality.