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China continued the tradition of Soviet military shipbuilding

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Already the second aircraft carrier was launched into the People's Republic of China, and this is again a ship built in the image and likeness of aircraft-carrying cruisers of Soviet projects. And although the ship will enter the structure of the Chinese Navy only in a few years, it can already be assumed now that it will differ from both Russian and American counterparts.


New aircraft carrier fleet China was launched in the port of Dalian. The ship is planned to be adopted in 2020 - the next three years it will be completed and tested. In total, in the coming years, China plans to bring the number of aircraft carriers to five. The second Chinese aircraft carrier is the first ship of this class built in the PRC itself.

The first Chinese aircraft carrier "Liaonin", in the past - the Soviet heavy aircraft carrier "Varyag", laid down in 1985 at the shipyard in Nikolaev. When the Black Sea Fleet was divided, the ship departed to Ukraine, and in 1998 the year was sold to a Chinese company (as it was then reported, to organize a floating amusement park and a casino).
Now, a repaired and re-equipped aircraft carrier is the flagship of the fleet of the People’s Liberation Army of China, who recently took part in a demonstration of the power of the PRC Navy near the disputed islands of the South China Sea.

Modeled on the modernized "Varyag"

“Roughly speaking, the new, second aircraft carrier is the Chinese version of our heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser 11436 project, which“ in girlhood ”was“ Varyag ”, said Andrei Frolov, a researcher at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, in his commentary to VZGLYAD.

During the construction of the new ship, the Chinese reconstructed the construction of the heavy aircraft carrier Varyag, but using their own materials, the expert explained. “Completely their body. The superstructure was slightly modified, with another radar station, ”Frolov said. Electronic equipment, landing equipment, power plant - all Chinese.

China continued the tradition of Soviet military shipbuilding


According to the expert, "the ship is more successfully assembled, unlike the" Varyag ", which the Chinese have altered a little." In particular, the Chinese removed from the Varyag - Liaoning built-in complex of anti-ship missiles "Granit". "Any alteration is still worse than something that was originally designed," - said Frolov.

"According to the number of aircraft that the new ship can carry on board, it is comparable to Liaoning, there can be no sensation here," the expert added.

In particular, the new ship has no fundamental differences in the air defense system with Liaoning, said Konstantin Sivkov, the first vice-president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, told the VIEW newspaper to the newspaper.

Thus, it can be said that China continued and developed technologies and ideas for the construction of aircraft carriers, developed more than forty years ago by the Soviet Union.

However, if the current aircraft carrier with the “speaking” name of the 001A project is modeled on the Varyag, then the next ship of this type is being built by China in a completely new, independent project. Earlier it was reported that the third aircraft carrier can be equipped with a nuclear power plant and several steam catapults.
In comparison with the "Admiral Kuznetsov"

The potential of the second Chinese aircraft carrier will be higher than that of Admiral Kuznetsov, Frolov said. “Due to the fact that this is a new ship, it will not suffer from the constructive and production flaws that are on the Kuznetsov,” Frolov said. - As I have already said, Admiral Kuznetsov has an integrated anti-ship missile complex. Experts are still wondering whether this complex will be dismantled during the modernization and repair of the ship. ”

Recently there was information that instead of the old "Granites" are going to put new missile systems, said Frolov. “Apparently, the Ministry of Defense is not abandoning the concept of a universal ship, which can both use missiles and take planes,” Frolov said. “If this is so, then the features of Admiral Kuznetsov, in comparison with all aircraft carriers that exist in other countries, will consist of this.”

You can immediately point out the problems of the Chinese ship and our "Admiral Kuznetsov" - this is the absence of the elements of the radar patrol, so the air defense capabilities are very limited, said, in turn, Konstantin Sivkov. If the Russian ship has a X-NUMX helicopter K-4 of the radar patrol and this largely resolves the issue of the warning detection of an air enemy, China does not have full-fledged helicopter patrols of the radar patrol.



In addition, our aircraft carrier also has more advanced hydroacoustics, it has its own hydroacoustic station, Sivkov notes.

American counterparts

According to Sivkov, in general, we can say that "our aircraft carrier on 10 – 15% is superior to the Chinese.” If we compare the Chinese ship with the American aircraft carriers, then “according to the impact capabilities, this is somewhere 30 – 35% of the capabilities of the US aircraft carrier,” Konstantin Sivkov believes. According to the solution of air defense tasks, this is approximately 20%, and in the fight against submarines, approximately 60% of the US, the expert summed up.

The US Navy Pacific Fleet has 6 aircraft carriers. These are the Nimitz and five ships of a similar class: the Carl Vinson (the flagship of the shock group that maneuvered off the coast of Korea), the John Stennis, the George Washington, the Abraham Lincoln and the Ronald Reagan. The 5 of 6 aircraft carriers, including the Carl Vinson, are part of the 3 fleet covering the Pacific coast. One - “George Washington” - is part of the 7 fleet, based in Japan.

The balance of power in the Pacific

“The Chinese fleet is the second after the American, in some aspects it is comparable to the Japanese and surpasses all other fleets,” says military expert Andrei Frolov. According to him, the PRC fleet is superior to the Russian Pacific Fleet, "perhaps with the exception of the submarine component." “We have more nuclear submarines there, and their qualitative characteristics exceed those of the Chinese. But many submarines are under repair now, ”the expert notes.
The United States obviously has a clear concern about the growing Chinese presence in the Pacific. Signs of this can be seen from the beginning of last year, reports of the Pentagon’s desire to revise the Fleet Structure Regulations (FSA). The draft revised FSA suggested an increase in the number of naval ships from 308 to 355 units. The same point - to increase the number of ships to 350 - was contained in the election program of Donald Trump. According to experts, one of the main reasons for plans to increase the fleet is the need for proactive maneuver in confrontation with China.

“But since the Chinese aircraft carrier will continue to finish building and it will be operational only by 2020, the balance of forces in the Pacific region still does not change,” said Vasily Kashin, an expert at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies. But in the long term, China, having increased the number of warships, expects to "solve more diverse tasks in the western Pacific seas adjacent to China and increase the possibilities for successful operations against Taiwan in the South China Sea," the expert emphasized.

The Chinese ships, in comparison with the US, have fewer capabilities, the interlocutor agreed, but they are intended for other tasks. “They will not be used throughout the world, it’s more for operations in the seas adjacent to China,” Kashin said.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 April 30 2017 06: 59
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    The second aircraft carrier was launched in the PRC, and this is again a ship built in the image and likeness of aircraft-carrying cruisers of Soviet projects.
    The thought sounds as if they had built them more than once.
    1. venaya
      venaya April 30 2017 07: 09
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      The idea of ​​this idea is that China builds aircraft carriers according to our scheme with a springboard, in contrast to the classical school of building such ships with take-off aircraft using a catapult. I myself do not consider all this to be a great progress, I think that it’s just not enough practice yet.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 30 2017 07: 13
        +1
        Quote: venaya
        The idea of ​​this thought is that China is building aircraft carriers according to our springboard scheme,

        So, let's clarify. Now they really built a ship with a springboard, ONE, but they are working hard on catapults, including electromagnetic ones. And their new aircraft carriers can already be equipped with them
        1. venaya
          venaya April 30 2017 07: 30
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          Quote: svp67
          they are working on catapults to the fullest ... their new aircraft carriers can already be equipped with them

          Here it is, and I about it. They took as a basis a concept with a springboard in order to gain at least some experience, and in the future to switch to a more advanced scheme with catapults, with any. So your remark does not contradict mine, as I understand it.
          1. cost
            cost April 30 2017 14: 18
            +6
            Back in the XNUMXth century BC. the great Chinese commander Sun Tzu said: “It is better to have an aircraft carrier with a springboard than a springboard without an aircraft carrier” hi
            1. venaya
              venaya April 30 2017 14: 26
              +1
              Quote: Rich
              It is better to have an aircraft carrier with a springboard than a springboard without an aircraft carrier

              Are you really convinced that a carrier with a springboard is able to compete in performance characteristics with an aircraft carrier with a catapult? I have deep doubts about this. From my point of view, the use of a catapult is able to significantly reduce the length of the runways, at the same take-off speed of the aircraft, which, in principle, in the end, is even able to reduce the total cost of the carrier itself + aircraft filling.
              1. cost
                cost April 30 2017 14: 47
                +4
                I am convinced that to have an aircraft carrier with a springboard, it all the same means to have an aircraft carrier. The main thing is they build them, and we all argue which type is better. Yes, at least some. The main thing is
                1. venaya
                  venaya April 30 2017 15: 08
                  +1
                  So, in order for the aircraft carriers to be in the required quantity, with acceptable performance characteristics of the entire complex (ship + aircraft filling), all sorts of bells and whistles are needed to reduce the total cost of the complex for the economic possibility of implementing their construction and in the shortest possible time.
                  1. cost
                    cost April 30 2017 16: 06
                    +2
                    It’s more profitable for us ourselves that this aircraft carrier is so expensive and outdated. Or do you think differently?
            2. Walanin
              Walanin 1 May 2017 00: 52
              +1
              Quote: Rich
              “It’s better to have an aircraft carrier with a springboard than a springboard without an aircraft carrier”

              it's better to have brain cancer than brain cancer hi
  2. ava09
    ava09 April 30 2017 07: 03
    +7
    (c) China has no full-fledged radar patrol helicopters. (c)
    China has Opportunities and Will ... So it will be. But we only have the inheritance from the fathers and grandfathers. I wonder what will remain after us? Devastation and "capitalism with a human face"? Only now the face is completely unkind.
    1. Iline
      Iline April 30 2017 07: 23
      +2
      Whatever it was, and the Chinese go out into the world with these ships. Let not even its own development. And we mainly build ships of the near sea zone (we are not talking about submarines yet). About his own new aircraft carrier, there is only talk. Even if they decide to build it, the construction will drag on for many years. I don’t know for what reason, but our industry cannot provide such a pace of construction as in China.
      And everything else is sad. Lived - the average wage of workers in China exceeded the Russian.
      1. Walanin
        Walanin 1 May 2017 00: 59
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        Quote: Iline
        And we mainly build ships of the near sea zone

        not mainly, but only exclusively the twin of the zone. And then with difficulty and delays.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 April 30 2017 08: 45
      +2
      Well, if in China they are not, then in Russia too. Indeed, in China 6 or 8 Ka-31 is used.
    3. Pirogov
      Pirogov April 30 2017 10: 11
      +3
      Quote: ava09
      China has Opportunities and Will ... So it will be. But we only have the inheritance from the fathers and grandfathers. I wonder what will remain after us? Devastation and "capitalism with a human face"? Only now the face is completely unkind.

      Totally agree with you . The Chinese know what they want and go to it. But in Russia, the bureaucrat has no limits, and so far there is nothing good to be.
  3. Monarchist
    Monarchist April 30 2017 07: 27
    +1
    China is the second aircraft carrier descends from five planned. We are just developing TTX, and given the lack of funding and the habit of postponing for later ....
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 30 2017 07: 36
    +1
    What can only congratulate China. And the construction of aircraft carriers suggests that China is not going to limit itself only to its region at sea, but plans to demonstrate its strength in the oceans.
  5. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 30 2017 07: 39
    +4
    in 1998 it was sold to a Chinese company (as it was then reported, to organize a floating amusement park and casino).

    if suddenly, a mess whatsoever ... will arrange both an "amusement park" and a "roulette" ...
  6. donavi49
    donavi49 April 30 2017 08: 12
    +2
    Well, the new ship (Type 002) will be a copy of Big Sarah. With catapults and boilers.
    1. Days
      Days April 30 2017 22: 05
      0
      Where did the wood come from that the ship under construction would be licked from the Forrestals? Or did you mean the words of the Ministry of Defense of the PRC that Type 002 will be with catapults?
  7. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 April 30 2017 14: 48
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    "The Chinese fleet is the second after the American, in some aspects it is comparable to the Japanese and surpasses all other fleets," said military expert Andrei Frolov "
    And what is the quality of this “fleet”? Like the quality of Chinese batteries.
    1. Walanin
      Walanin 1 May 2017 01: 00
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      Above the quality of your Russian phone.
  8. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 April 30 2017 17: 53
    +1
    The maneuver for entering the ocean for the Chinese Navy is geographically limited, and the capabilities of an aircraft carrier in the coastal zone are excessive. By quiet glanders and quite persistently, the PRC announces its share on the planet.
  9. Catherine II
    Catherine II April 30 2017 23: 22
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    The potential of the second Chinese aircraft carrier will be higher than that of Admiral Kuznetsov, Frolov believes. “Due to the fact that this is a new ship, it will not suffer from design and manufacturing defects that are on Kuznetsov,” Frolov said.

    According to Sivkov’s assessment, in general, it can be said that “our aircraft carrier on 10 – 15% exceeds Chinese”

    2 expert, but opinions are different .. inclined to trust Frolov. The documentation they had was experience too.
    Well done of course ..
  10. triumphator
    triumphator April 30 2017 23: 23
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    He did not continue any traditions. It is impossible to continue what is lost. Reverse engineering is not a continuation of tradition. In the field of aircraft carriers, China has already overtaken the Russian Federation by 10-15 years. No arguing against facts
  11. serg2108
    serg2108 3 May 2017 14: 27
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    well done ... slowly but surely stick their line ... but something tells me that we will buy from them aircraft carriers designed for us laughing
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  14. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 9 May 2017 19: 03
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    [quote = Walanin] Above the quality of your Russian phone. [/ quo
    Wait and see laughing
  15. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 9 May 2017 19: 09
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    This copyright will sink in the open ocean. It must be kept near the shore laughing laughing
    They better build battle junks laughing laughing