Medvedchuk: The refusal of NATO can help Kiev return Donbass

Famous Ukrainian politician Viktor Medvedchuk gave an interview Financial Times. There were many topics for discussion, and among others, the Minsk agreements. According to Viktor Medvedchuk, these agreements "hang in the balance." At the same time, the Ukrainian politician, who in Kiev is called "Putin's close friend," notes that there is still a chance for saving the accords.

Medvedchuk:

The Minsk agreements hang in the balance. But there is a way out of this impasse. This way out is in the adoption of laws by the parliament granting the regions of the southeast limited autonomy and the possibility of holding local elections. Only after that the Ukrainian troops will be able to regain control on the border with the Russian Federation.

According to Medvedchuk, the process will be much more intensive if Kiev and Moscow manage to agree on a number of issues that concern each other. One of these issues is the desire of Kiev to NATO. Viktor Medvedchuk says that if Ukraine abandons this idea, then the process of “reintegration” of Donbass can go faster.

It is noteworthy that such words are published by the Western media. This may indicate that Kiev is indirectly sent a signal that NATO’s way for Ukraine can be closed permanently due to Kiev’s many territorial issues.

Against this background, American military instructors appeared in the Donbass. At least, that's exactly what the official representative of the DPR Army, Colonel Basurin, said. Donetsk News Agency cites the statement of Edward Basurin:

According to our sources, it was noted that military instructors from the United States arrived at the location of units located in the so-called ATO zone in order to participate in the verification of previously transferred military equipment.

If it’s really about checking the property transferred to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, these are no longer military instructors, but rather military auditors.

Comments

[Pirogov]

It’s bad that no one is listening to Medvedchuk.

[oleg-gr]

Will not help. Banderlogs in the Donbass have already done so much that it will soon be forgotten. If forgotten at all.

[The black]

Even Judas, to whom they are worshiping, will not help return Donbass Parasiu and the company.

[cniza]

Everything died so died, we grabbed it late and we will never agree with the horses.

[Pirogov]

Quote: cniza

Everything died so died, we grabbed it late and we will never agree with the horses.

You’re not telling me this, but tell VV, and as far as I heard from his words, he’s three hands for it!

[cniza]

And you catch the meaning between the words ..., then the horses will be thrown off and then we'll talk.

[Pirogov]

Quote: cniza

And you catch the meaning between the words ..., then the horses will be thrown off and then we'll talk.

This is another matter, otherwise I already felt like a gutted one.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Pirogov

This is another matter, otherwise I already felt like a gutted one.

Not worth it, dear. Judging by the comments, you are clearly from another socket.

[Pirogov]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Not worth it, dear. Judging by the comments, you are clearly from another socket.

Thank you for understanding.

[cniza]

You probably misunderstood me, I have never ranked you among the junta.

[Pirogov]

))) Everything is fine !!

[antivirus]

how the Turks won’t get off with tomatoes. so are coles - corn and sugar. To rot, decompose the state of the Outskirts and introduce a direct controlled puppet power is necessary to protect against future "horses" (Mexico will)

[Lelek]

Quote: Black

Even Judas will not help return Donbass Parasiu and the company

Hey. Not Judas is on the agenda here, but the old devil, who has everything with Crimea and LDNR (sorry the photo was cropped and the horns weren’t in the picture).

And the Yankees really arrived at the front in Donbass. Already not even encrypted with * ki.

[Catherine II]

Basurin only Martians do not serve mercenaries there. Are there any more objective sources?

[CT-55_11-9009]

Which sources are more objective for you? Censor? Or the State Department? Maybe the Ear of Matzah?

[Major Yurik]

They slowly blew up the Protokaklah, the Yankees threw Bandera like suckers! Actually why how .....?

[Iskander Sh]

Quote: Pirogov

It’s bad that Medvedchuk, not one, does not listen.

If Poroshenko obeys today, then tomorrow the radicals in Kiev will arrange dances. Poroshenko’s hands are too short, but Avakov’s are too raking. It’s like with a blockade, the radicals were dispersed, the radicals went to Kiev, Poroshenko returned the blockade.

[Pirogov]

One hundred%, I wanted to say this in principle!

[cost]

This is what I want to say. In today's Ukraine, not only streets with Russian toponymy are renamed, but entire cities; demolish monuments, rewrite history; forget the old and invent new heroes. The thing, as they say, is theirs. They don’t climb into a strange monastery with their charter. But they also do not bring bed bugs to their home from another monastery.
It is necessary to prohibit the word in Russian parcel post
Rave? - Full. As the words of Medvedchuk: "Refusal of NATO can help Kiev return the Donbass." Donbass is not a comb; you cannot shift it from one pocket to another. And it will be decided only by the inhabitants of LDNR themselves, and not by the Medvedchuk. After Ukraine in the Donbass has created a chance for a peaceful solution, it has no

[Monarchist]

Here are just my suspicion that Medvedchuk can easily be turned over. They have a lot of "Hamilions": 99: the racers were in the CPSU and the Komsomol, and now we go "with Lenin and the rest of the text" if Fortune turns away from the separatist, everyone will turn out to be underground fighters, some with Ilyich himself carried the log! Remember these pictures, it seems for 70 years they never decided: who exactly was carrying the log?

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: Monarchist

Here are just my suspicion that Medvedchuk can easily be turned over. They have a lot of "Hamilions": 99: the racers were in the CPSU and the Komsomol, and now we go "with Lenin and the rest of the text" if Fortune turns away from the separatist, everyone will turn out to be underground fighters, some with Ilyich himself carried the log! Remember these pictures, it seems for 70 years they never decided: who exactly was carrying the log?

It does not turn over, he is Putin's godfather

[Cutter]

A serious thought is likely to be confirmed by life. US auditors have nothing to do there; you cannot inspect the use of what has long been sold in markets or stolen for domestic purposes. And let the instructors in “combat” training work, I have never seen a teacher who knows the subject of the “troika” learn an excellent student!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Iskander Sh

the radicals went to Kiev, Poroshenko returned the blockade.

Moreover, with such an installation, as if it was he who invented it.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Vladimirets

Moreover, with such an installation, as if it was he who invented it

Well, this is just perfectly consistent with his mattress upbringing ...

[activator]

Quote: Pirogov

It’s bad that no one is listening to Medvedchuk.

Forgot SDPU times? no one could tolerate this bear, and now they should listen. We just forget the short memory, we forgot who was so tough after the Maidan, and then he emerged young, voted actively, as there was a ushlepok and nothing remained. Lost for the powder as Oleksandr Zinchenko gave the press conference, but he was right about everything. It’s not the same with Medvedchuk, well, I don’t perceive him even though he is pro-Russian, maybe he just wants to return to big politics again or pursues some other goals, but they are his personal ones.

[Pirogov]

Quote: activator

It’s not the same with Medvedchuk, well, I don’t perceive him even though he is pro-Russian, maybe he just wants to return to big politics again or pursues some other goals, but they are his personal ones.

I can say for myself, for all the years of so-called independence, under the SDPU I was much better than now and under Kuchma the president, my wife and I got together $ 500 and every month that we could postpone, but now, as if not to pawn ourselves. ................

[activator]

Quote: Pirogov

I can say for myself, for

Yes, it was different for me, for example, when I worked on a collective farm in those days, I received a salary twice a year, one of which was money. They lived as in times of subsistence farming, merchants traveled around the villages and exchanged goods for eggs, sugar, and potato and wheat. When I got tired of it and left for Kharkiv, I got $ 400 from a leftist. But here, it was Ukraine, not Russia that wrote a different book by the way, and not Yushchenko or Poroshenko, and it was with them that a bomb was planted under Ukraine. that having come to power in pro-Russian rhetoric and with the support of the voters of the east, Kuchma quickly changed his shoes and quickly forgot what he promised and became completely svidomo and widespread. remained, and the east did not consider it anymore. But just then it was necessary at the constitutional level to make Russian the second state language to recognize that western and eastern Ukraine differ from each other mentally, culturally, and other other garbage, but since we live in one country, let's respect each other and not impose our own way life until better times. when slowly all corners would be smoothed out. Well, for Medvedchuk in those days it was said that either his grandfather or dad was a policeman whom the Soviet government spanked, I don’t know the truth or not, but they said it was from for this he in those days had especially warm feelings for Russia and the USSR. And now he suddenly remembered the friendship of peoples, why would it suddenly be?

[iConst]

Quote: activator

well, I don’t perceive him even though he is pro-Russian

And what, is Medvedchuk pro-Russian? Here is the news! If he clearly does not advocate Russophobia, it does not mean that he is for it. Just a very careful person.

[Catherine II]

Quote: activator

Forgot SDPU times? nobody could put up with this Medvedchuk, but now they should listen

We have not forgotten anything. Remember them all.
By the way, he and Glazyev actively promoted vehicles in Ukraine. Anyway, this is a direct channel of communication with the Kremlin and partner Putin.

[DMB_95]

Quote: Pirogov

It’s bad that no one is listening to Medvedchuk.

What is there to listen to? Compliance with the Minsk Agreements? A very breakthrough idea ...

[_Ugene_]

One of these issues is Kiev’s desire for NATO.

Yes, they can’t wait directly in NATO.

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

they are not needed in NATO right now - now there is another task - to provoke Russia into a war with Ukraine ...
and provoke Russia to send troops. Not Ukraine - namely Russia.

[_Ugene_]

This has long been clear to everyone, and therefore they keep the Donbass as a buffer between Ukraine and Russia.

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

There is another option :)
NATO in a hurry leave Naglia and Oia - and voila - take the races there :) here is the war in Europe :)

[Lelek]

Quote: _Ugene_

Yes, they can’t wait directly in NATO.

NATO itself is climbing into all the cracks. Here the other day an Englishwoman came to the Black Sea to spoil.

[Vita vko]

The Minsk agreements are a utopia. People will not be able to live in the Donbass under the conditions of the genocide of the parcel of power. Now even the option with federalization has become illusory.

[Masya masya]

Minsk agreements hang in the balance.

This is what a microscope is needed to see this hair ... In any microscope you will not see what is not ...

[Evgenijus]

Medvedchuk: The refusal of NATO can help Kiev return Donbass

An interesting expression. Donbass both stood and will stand in its place. Where to return it? He didn't move anywhere. People work there in factories, give birth to children and raise them. True, the Ukrainian bombs and shells are raining down on this whole peaceful matter. Where else would they go? In a concentration camp near Kiev?

[APASUS]

Most of all, the question is, with whom exactly can I negotiate in Ukraine today? Power has now become a hostage of its own actions, it's like a car without brakes, only the wall can stop!

[cniza]

There, a complete gully field and the state must be built in a new way, as I understand it on the basis of the Donbass.

[Valtsmanyuga]

Late to drink Borjomi, the kidneys fell off in Beijing, along with the Crimea.

[Masya masya]

Quote: Waltzmanniuga

Late to drink Borjomi, the kidneys fell off in Beijing, along with the Crimea.

Yes, he alcoholized all organs, now not a single infection takes ...

[Methane]

... "only after this, Ukrainian troops will be able to regain control on the border with the Russian Federation"

Ish, what did you want, huh? Reintegration "to you? Right now, we ran away.
hu, trash.

[Comrade Glebov]

Refusal of the current government and Nazi activists (and the most severe methods) and a return to common sense would allow Kiev to return not only the Donbass, but also respect. Alas and ah, we will not see it soon, as it seems to me.

[Mountain shooter]

Donbass will be able to integrate into Vnakraina only after capturing Kiev. Other options are poorly viewed.

[Methane]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Donbass will be able to integrate into Vnakraina only after capturing Kiev. Other options are poorly viewed.

[B] [/ b]
We don’t need any Ukraine. Neither federal nor confederal, enough. And Kiev is not needed. There are no people who want to get the plague.

[avg-mgn]

Does it make sense to discuss these statements, the pathetic pop just finally read the text of Minsk-2, it remains to translate into mov and pour into P.P. (can be parallel to the throat in the throat)

[Banishing liberoids]

The question was originally formed incorrectly - the ukroin is needed not as a constituent part of the block, but as a disruptor in Russia, so ukroin can enter this block only somewhere else, in a parallel dimension or after many years.

[Turkestan]

Refusal of NATO may help Kiev return Donbass



Unlikely . Blood spilled a lot

[Al1977]

Quote: Turkestan

Unlikely . Blood spilled a lot

Since when have politicians begun to worry? When this confrontation was over, did someone think about it? Some wanted to join NATO, others showed that they decide everything here ... We will not point fingers.

[Umnichka]

After all that was, the very idea of ​​transferring control of the border to the military Ukrainians is criminal !!! In my understanding, this is completely excluded. Killers have no place in the Donbass.

[bsk_una]

And besides NATO, we still need to consider people in the Donbass as people and talk humanly

[Agent_017]

The idea is utopian. How can they forgive Kiev and Petushka a sea of ​​blood? As long as a generation lives whose fate has been broken by taking the lives of loved ones - there will be no forgiveness ..

[Vladimir 70]

Quote: Pirogov

Quote: activator

It’s not the same with Medvedchuk, well, I don’t perceive him even though he is pro-Russian, maybe he just wants to return to big politics again or pursues some other goals, but they are his personal ones.

I can say for myself, for all the years of so-called independence, under the SDPU I was much better than now and under Kuchma the president, my wife and I got together $ 500 and every month that we could postpone, but now, as if not to pawn ourselves. ................

Well, to credit this to Kuchma and Medvedchuk is not correct. This was due to the fact that the Russian Federation "taxied" the drunk of EBN

[Vitalson]

Return Crimea and Donbass then to thin out the Russian population of these regions?

[masiya]

“You will not enter the water of the river twice”, there is no turning back ... and there will be no normal relations between the fascist krajina and the Donbass republics, no matter how they conjure or invite, (to be shot and torment or something ... ??)

[German Titov]

It’s not a problem for us to “turn back”. 9 grenades “RGD-5 each in a“ dupe ”, - we’ll hang the“ rings ”of this“ chupacabra, ”as a keepsake from the“ combat Cheburators ”(answer to the figure). In the DPR, all are“ polite people. ” - Buryats.

[akims]

Arabs at gunpoint your trunks is fine!
And on the border between U. and R. - this is not legitimate ...
Like in that joke: nu-nu ...

[Stanislas]

Quote: alta

when the border of Ukraine with Russia will be closed ... at gunpoint elections are not legitimate ..

To do this, you do not need to close the borders, but disarm and put your Hepsik Natsik in their cells (so that the shells do not fly), and then send observers to the republic, they will see if there is a "muzzle" on the site. And it’s more convenient for you to do everything from the end (through w ...): close the borders, catch up with the Natsik and drive the electorate into the booths with butts; then you say: "but not at gunpoint."

[fif21]

The recognition of the independence of Donbass will help Kiev return to a peaceful life.

[Catherine II]

Quote: fif21

The recognition of the independence of Donbass will help Kiev return to a peaceful life.

with their statements about their borders of the regions (they are now 1 / 3 from the regions) and get to Kiev and London?
In addition, here Zakharchenko said 60 days left for us ... in early March .. here is the last week left for us .. wait.
In general, # Minskprevyshevskogo ... partners are all for Minsk ...

[Prutkov]

They will not accept Ukraine into NATO for only one reason - the United States benefits from Ukraine formally remaining outside the blocs. A missile strike on Syria showed how they will act against Russia. They will not shoot tomahawks from the Black Sea through the layered air defense of Crimea. There are two real flight routes for tomahawks and airplanes. 1st from Turkey via Georgia. It is to control the airspace of Turkey that you need a base in Syria. 2nd Through Romania and the airspace of Ukraine, which should be formally neutral. But the NATO military in Ukraine is already there.

[Franciscan]

Mr ... zee. all people trade.

[beeper]

Somewhere I already heard this "authoritative statement", albeit in a less complementary form, "promise these anything .. anything but hang them later" ... after "restoring control on the border with the Russian Federation"?

[Catherine II]

Medvechuk is the representative of Putin in Kiev. Nothing new. What's in the Kremlin - Minsk. What is in Kiev-Minsk, what is in Brussels-Minsk ..
A few words about him, because the audience may not be aware of who he is and what he is doing now and sees him as the next Ukrainian post-Maidan spill policy.

Kum (the godfather of his daughter, GDP, and Medvedev's wife is her godmother.) The Russian president did not say anything new. He voiced Minsk and the rejection of NATO in exchange for the Regions.
Medvechuk himself is one of the few Ukrainians under US sanctions (this is for those who do not know that Ukrainians are also under sanctions)
Medvedchuk has a special permit for flights between Kiev and Moscow, although flights between states are canceled. Publicly, Medvedchuk is a mediator in the release of hostages in the Minsk peace process in relation to Eastern Ukraine, the last document of which was signed in February 2015 of the year. Non-publicly informed people in the situation say that he is participating in ongoing backstage negotiations between the two regions controlled by separatists in the Donbass and the rest of Ukraine.
Medvedchuk acted as a mediator for Russian separatist leaders in eastern Ukraine and the new pro-Western Kiev authorities, because, according to him, the separatists refused to speak directly with Kiev. The then acting president of Ukraine, Alexander Turchinov, had no choice but to accept his role, which was subsequently approved by German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Putin
Resolution of the conflict, according to Medvedchuk, can be even easier if the talks include a big discussion between Moscow and Kiev - including, at the Kremlin’s insistence, that Ukraine should abandon NATO. “Ukraine does not need NATO,” he declares. "In the current situation, this will lead to the collapse of Ukraine ... Ukraine should be guided by the interests of its development and not join NATO and the EU. We are neither needed either." He insists that Ukraine should be a "sovereign, independent" country, but its future is to restore relations with Russia
The position has not changed over the 3 of the year. It's a shame that people are only hostages of politicians.
I want to draw attention to the fact that this is the real “Kremlin arm” and “Putin agent” in Ukraine. Openly acknowledging this - and nothing happened to him. On the contrary, his significance only increased (I would say that he is now the ambassador of the Russian Federation). A bit of humor added. But partners that are from the Kremlin, that from Kiev value this channel of communication.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Catherine II

I want to draw attention to the fact that this is the real “Kremlin arm” and “Putin agent” in Ukraine. Openly acknowledging this - and nothing happened to him. On the contrary, his significance only increased (I would say that he is now the ambassador of the Russian Federation). A bit of humor added. But partners that are from the Kremlin, that from Kiev value this channel of communication.

I want to add that the other day surfaced on the Internet the fact that in the middle of the 00, Medvedchuk indirectly financed Ukrainian ultranationalists. That's really "only business, nothing personal."

[German Titov]

It seems the face is smart, but a fool. Somewhere about 3 years late (my opinion). Then V. Zakharchenko sings "On the armed change of power in Kiev", then "an incomprehensible government in exile (in the person of Azarov)." Where have you been before?

Quote: oleg-gr

Will not help. Banderlogs in the Donbass have already done so much that it will soon be forgotten. If forgotten at all.

I agree with that. They promised us a ghetto. I’m born and raised here for a second. I have NATO and the "do not be." Friends of the "peace" lost during this time more than our team in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1986. Thinkers are bad, they crawled out. Accustomed to “zhooppoy” to sit on 2 chairs, fucking dealers. Do not agree, "automatic" and the "Eastern Front". "Kizdet language - do not toss the bags." Probably from his business and ATO supported. From the heart expressed. I’m probably going to the ban. I wish you all peace.

[shinobi]

Nothing will help Kiev anymore. Time is lost. It is time for them to think how to blame quietly.

[Al1977]

Quote: shinobi

Nothing will help Kiev anymore. Time is lost. It is time for them to think how to blame quietly.

Blame the whole of Kiev?)) Why?)) Why is it bad that they are sitting in Kiev?)

[Tolstoevsky]

evil orcaine does not stop masturbating

[yehat]

Kiev wanted to do massive sweeps in the Donbass, Karl. Stripping! People don’t want to live in Donbass, but not in Ukraine.

[Al1977]

Quote: yehat

Kiev wanted to do massive sweeps in the Donbass

I do not see a concentration camp in Slavyansk and Mariupol.

[yehat]

there is a cemetery

[Al1977]

And the dead with braids along the roads?)))

[Bath]

Famous Ukrainian politician Viktor Medvedchuk

Otkel is such a take who appointed him a politician?

[Al1977]

Kiev does not need Dobass, and Donbass Kiev.
In Moscow and Brussels, they are trying to forcibly reduce them, but the roads have long diverged.
Political games of Russia and the West are very expensive for residents of this region.
And about MEDVEDchuk ... so look what he has to do with Moscow and everything will become clear.

[Al1977]

Do not quite understand why Kiev should abandon NATO? And how is this related to the DPR? This, like their choice, wherever they want, they enter there, even though they are Hare Krishnas.

[shura7782]

All these options and contracts are very doubtful. Not as reliable after NATO’s eastward move. We must proceed from the fact that Ukraine must cease to exist as a state. Necessary conditions for this impoverishment and civil war. If Russia will contribute to this sluggishly, then the current situation will stretch for many decades with all its uncertainty. In the best case, Russia will dig in the border posts in the west of the LPR and the DPR and declare the territory of these republics its own. Americans too much time and money swelled into what we are now observing. It would be inept for them to fail their well-done project. Therefore, banderlogs will regularly receive money from their sponsors. If someone amuses himself with the hope that they will give up on them, they say, now get out yourself, it’s very wrong. Everything that we observe in Ukraine according to their plans should happen in Russia. They do not spare money for this.

[Normal ok]

Medvedchuk: The refusal of NATO can help Kiev return Donbass

Donbass is like a suitcase without a handle: it’s hard to carry and it’s a pity to drop it. Judging by the last months, nobody really wants to return him.