Russian EW and foreign press: a sensation with exposure

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The active exploitation of the theme of “Russian aggression” sometimes leads to very interesting results. Hurrying to talk about the evil Russia, which is plotting something unkind and preparing to attack everyone, some foreign media, as they say, are bending the edge. Their sensational publications do not just attract attention, but lead to the emergence of the most real refutations in other publications. An excellent example of such a situation could be observed in recent days.

Interesting story started the week before last. 14 April, on the eve of the Day of the Specialist of Electronic Warfare, the domestic TV channel "Russia 1" showed a report on the upcoming professional holiday. In the story entitled “Electronic warfare: how to neutralize the enemy without a shot” briefly described the latest achievements of the Russian defense industry in the field of EW systems, demonstrated new complexes of this kind and some quotes were cited. Such reports go to all professional holidays of the military and have not yet become a cause for excitement.



19 April on Russian television news reacted the British tabloid The Sun. The publication, widely known for its “hot” news, reviewed the plot of the Russia 1 channel in its corporate style and almost raised panic. The usual plot for the upcoming holiday was considered in the light of the “Russian threat” and not without sensational raid. An article from The Sun newspaper called “Shock tactics. United States bizarre propaganda report ("Shocking Tactics. Russia in a strange propaganda report claims it can destroy all the US Navy with just one" electronic bomb ") has attracted many readers .



In addition, this publication caught the eye of the authors of other publications, including the more serious ones and who had not previously shown a love of puffed sensations or “stuffing”. This was followed by a logical result. So, on April 20, the respected magazine Popular Mechanics posted on its official website the article “Don’t Buy the Reports About Russian Scary E-Weapons” weapons»), Which is a response to the publication of British journalists. The Sun has not yet responded to the response of the American publication, and, apparently, will not. Over the past few days, new interesting topics have appeared in the field of politics, celebrity life, etc.

The current situation looks very interesting. The Russian TV channel told about the successes of the domestic industry and the army, the British edition began to frighten the reader with these successes, and the American journalists, in turn, hurried to reassure the agitated public. Consider the latest publications of the three countries in more detail.

"Russia 1": how to neutralize the enemy without a single shot

The report of the Russian TV channel began with a reminder of the date. The holiday of EW specialists is celebrated on the anniversary of the first use of interference to suppress enemy communications. It happened back in 1904, during the Russo-Japanese War. It is noted that now the troops, "who do not need ammunition," can suppress not only communications, but also air defense systems or enemy satellites.

At the beginning of the plot, one of the newest domestic developments was shown - the small-sized complex of electronic warfare Lesochek. In a small, secure case, a noise generator is placed that suppresses the radio channels controlling explosive devices. It is argued that at the moment the Lesochek system is the most effective means of combating such threats.

The author of the report recalled that in the course of the latest armed conflicts, the importance of electronic warfare systems was clearly shown. Russia has similar funds. The existing systems are capable of providing cover for command posts, air defense systems, groupings of troops, as well as administrative and industrial facilities. To protect all necessary objects, it is possible to suppress ground-based radar systems, aviation Radar systems for early warning aircraft and even reconnaissance satellites.

Next, Russia 1 recalled the famous story involving the Russian Su-24 aircraft and the American destroyer USS Donald Cook (DDG-75), which took place in the Black Sea in April 2014 of the year. As evidence of the effectiveness of the Russian Khibiny system, allegedly on board the aircraft, a well-known quote attributed to an unnamed member of the ship’s crew was given. In addition, the history that was actively discussed in the past was illustrated by the corresponding video sequence.

The subject of land-based electronic warfare complexes was also touched on. The authors of the report recalled the existence of the Murmansk system, capable of tracking the shortwave range and controlling the space in a radius of up to 5 thousand km. It was noted that this complex works precisely on those frequencies that are used by NATO headquarters in Europe.

As another proof of the effectiveness of the Russian EW - and recognition of this fact - the words of Brigadier General Frank Gorenka, who heads the European group of the US Air Force, were cited. Earlier, the general said that Russian electronic weapons completely paralyze American electronics on missiles, planes and ships.



The report ends with the famous thesis that radio-electronic warfare is a key element of modern warfare. To win, no costly means of destruction are needed - only powerful electromagnetic radiation of the required parameters can be sufficient.

The Sun: a shocking tactic and just one "electronic bomb"

His article “Shock tactics. United Kingdom journalist Tom Michael begins with a basic thesis: Russia claims it can, in one fell swoop, disable all the naval forces of the United States. for what plans to use powerful radio interference.

T. Michael refers to the reportage of the Russia 1 channel. He writes that in the next news story from a country where the media is actually controlled by the authorities, he was told about new technologies that make ships, aircraft and missiles useless.

The Sun freely quotes a Russian journalist: today, the personnel of electronic warfare units can find and neutralize any radio equipment installed on equipment or on spacecraft. T. Michael also spoke about the mention of a three-year-old incident with a Russian plane and an American ship. It is noted that several Su-24 spans past the destroyer were mentioned in the news story, during which the ship electronics were switched off and left their carrier without protection. In addition, the story of Russian journalists about the possibility of creating "electronic domes" on important objects, thanks to which they become invisible to enemy means of detection, is mentioned.

The British press also drew attention to the citation of the American General F. Gorenko. T. Michael, with reference to an unnamed representative of the US military department, writes that the commander of the Air Force in Europe has never made statements similar to the “Russian propaganda”.

The Sun points to a curious feature of Russian reporting. It is alleged that he appeared after US President Donald Trump sent an aircraft carrier strike group led by the USS ship Carl Vinson (CVN-70) to the shores of the Korean Peninsula. On board the aircraft carrier, according to the British tabloid, there are about a hundred aircraft, and the ship itself is accompanied by destroyers, cruisers and submarines.

T. Michael also mentions recent rumors of a possible carrier group headed by USS Nimitz (CVN-68) and USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) to the Korean Peninsula region. The transition of two orders to the Sea of ​​Japan should begin on the next week relative to the publication date, i.e. 24-30 April.



After the order to send the first carrier-based strike group to a new place to solve the assigned tasks, it became known that Russia and China were dragging their reconnaissance ships to the shores of two Koreas. The transfer of spy ships, as noted by T. Michael, is carried out in parallel with the statements of Vladimir Putin, who called on the United States to show restraint.

Popular Mechanics: there is no electronic bomb

Already on April 20, the American edition of Popular Mecanics responded to Kyle Mizokami, an expert in security, on the new sensation of the British "production" article by the author. This publication received a concise subtitle, revealing its whole essence: "There is no" electronic bomb "-" There is no "electronic bomb."

An article in Popular Mechanics begins with very bold statements. According to the author, the Russian report, quoted by the British tabloid, is an excellent example of "fake" - unreliable news, released for various purposes. At the same time, the article from The Sun is a “big pile” of allegations about the possibility of Russia “destroying” the American military fleet with just one “electronic bomb”. K. Mizokami argues that all this does not seem close to the truth, and immediately promises to explain why.

A Russian television report claims that electronic warfare forces can "neutralize any target," including "ship or satellite radar." Apparently, it meant the radar with synthetic aperture, used on spacecraft, aircraft, NATO ships and other platforms. Such locators, using radio waves, are able to form an image of targets in the air and on the ground. In this case, reminds an American expert, "neutralization" does not mean the destruction of something. In this situation, it is rather a matter of “jamming” detection devices and blinding them.

In the plot of the TV channel “Russia 1” one of the novelties in the arsenals of the Russian EW troops was demonstrated - a special device called “Lesochek”, made in the form of a suitcase. This complex, when operated, blocks radio commands sent from control panels to improvised explosive devices. K. Mizokami notes that such technical means are not new or rare. Such EW systems have been in service with the United States for more than ten years and still remain relevant.

The American author also dwelt on the statements of the Russian media about a breakthrough in the field of EW, which resulted in the emergence of promising means with the ability to counter reconnaissance satellites, ground-based radars and early warning aircraft. The report further mentioned an incident with Donald Cook and a Russian aircraft, during which the latter applied interference. K. Mizokami reminds that a bit later, in 2014, false messages appeared, according to which the radars of the ship were completely paralyzed by the Khibiny EW complex installed on the Su-24.

The story also stated that the Khibiny (a real-life system, the author notes) could “deactivate the systems of the entire ship.” According to other Russian news, 27 seamen from an American destroyer were so shocked by what happened that they resigned after these events. This is precisely the effect of the very “e-bomb” about which The Sun writes. However, as Popular Mechanics rightly recalls, the Khibiny complex is not dropped like a bomb, although it is suspended on the external pylons of the carrier.

Then the question is asked: is there at least a grain of truth in the information told in the Russian report? K. Mizokami refers to an article in the online publication War Is Boring, written by Michael Peck, who believes that such information does not correspond to reality. He asks a question: how did the Russian pilots find out that the radar of the Aegis ship complex was "cut down"? And then M. Peck reminds that the suppressed locator does not turn off. He continues to work, although he no longer can search for goals. In addition, the means of electronic warfare is extremely rarely used in peacetime against a potential enemy. The fact is that the enemy is able to detect the interference, analyze it and create countermeasures.



Further, the American expert reviewed reports on the Murmansk complex, capable of controlling the broadcast at distances up to 3200 miles. These complexes have been supplied to the Russian armed forces since last year. They can really find and suppress enemy communication signals. The result, according to Russian journalists, is like a kind of invisibility shield that covers the target object and impedes the work of enemy detection devices. K. Mizokami believes that such an EW system can indeed exist, but the description given of the “invisibility shield” looks overly bizarre.

The plot of "Russia 1" ended with a "pompous string": you do not need expensive weapons to win; To defeat you enough powerful radio-electronic interference. The author notes that such a thesis is not quite consistent with the previously told things. Earlier in the report it was said that EW can only block enemy detection systems and only hide their strength. However, to win the war, you need to kill the enemy and destroy his material part.

According to Kyle Mizokami, the plot of the Russian TV channel and the article by the British tabloid are a mixture of real facts and fiction. The Russian radio-electronic warfare troops really have in their arsenal powerful complexes for various purposes. Nevertheless, we must remember cranks who say that these complexes can win the war on their own or force other sailors to go ashore.

***

The latest Russian developments in the field of armaments and military equipment regularly become “heroes” of publications in the foreign press. Articles and reports of domestic media also sometimes attract attention. However, cases where Russian journalists unwittingly provoke controversy among foreign colleagues are not too numerous and therefore are of great interest. That is exactly what happened with a recent report on the EW troops and their materiel.

It is not difficult to notice that the Russian plot “Radio-electronic confrontation: how to neutralize the enemy without a single shot” was released in connection with the professional holiday of radio-electronic warfare specialists and did not pursue the goal of fully revealing the existing situation, and also did not claim anything more. However, he was noticed in the UK, and the results are known.

The characteristic tone of the article “Shock tactics. United States newspaper The Sun perfectly demonstrates the desire of the publication to build a sensation, as they say, out of the blue. In this case, “under the hot hand” got the story dedicated to the Day of the experts of electronic warfare. The statements from this plot were considered from the point of view of current trends, as a result of which a specific publication appeared. Moreover, this article even managed to provoke other publications on a new wave of disclosures of “evil and aggressive Russians”.

The real voice of reason in this situation is the article “Don't Buy the Reports about the Life Mechanics of E-Weapons” from Popular Mechanics. Its author is trying to understand the reasons for the panic of British journalists, and comes to certain conclusions, which may even claim to be objective. However, it should be noted that K. Mizokami not only exposed the exaggerated sensation from The Sun, but also expressed certain complaints about the Russia 1 channel.

The reasons for the observed events are of the greatest interest in the context of mass and international discussion of Russian EW systems. Often, articles about the threatening successes of the likely adversary appear in connection with the desire of the military or the industry of individual countries to convince the public of the threat and to obtain allowances to the military budget. In this case, probably the reasons are different. The The Sun’s tabloid’s specific policies and reputation make it suspicious only of wanting to create a sensation consistent with current political trends, and thereby increase its ratings.

As for the magazine Popular Mechanics, his editorial board probably also decided to join the mass discussions, but to do it without loud sensations, having received its share of attention due to attempts to observe objectivity. With some reservations, it can be argued that this task was successfully completed.

In the calendar of the armed forces of Russia there are many professional holidays of various types of troops and types of armed forces. Before each of them, the domestic media are preparing thematic publications, stories, etc. Nevertheless, for some reason, the recent EW Specialist Day provoked an interesting, albeit ambiguous reaction of the foreign press. When it happens again to see such events, because of what they will begin and what topic is touched upon, time will tell.


The plot and the article "Electronic warfare: how to neutralize the enemy without a single shot":
http://vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2877851&2877851

Article “Shock tactics. US claims for a single electronic bomb in bizarre propaganda report:
https://thesun.co.uk/news/3360129/russia-wipe-out-us-navy-electronic-bomb/

The article "Don't Buy The Reports About Scary E-Weapons":
http://popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a26167/russia-secret-e-weapons/
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  1. +30
    April 25 2017 06: 02
    They have an iron man, the Hulk and Captain America. Why can't we have an E-bomb ?!
    1. +27
      April 25 2017 06: 31
      Quote: ImPerts
      They have an iron man, the Hulk and Captain America. Why can't we have an E-bomb ?!

      because we do not have IT-technologies, production of microelectronics, and the economy is "torn to shreds" by Obama ... what
      1. +17
        April 25 2017 07: 13
        Quote: Mystery12345
        ... we do not have IT-technologies, microelectronics production ...

        - no one has them
        - because this is not in nature
        Information technology (IT or IT) is a set of interrelated scientific and technical fields of knowledge that are studied and put into practice. methods for the creation, processing, storage, protection and transmission of information using computer technology


        Sometimes it's better to chew Yes

        The production of "molectronics" to IT is no sideways. Do not argue only with a very old and experienced programmer, og wink
        1. AUL
          +13
          April 25 2017 12: 04

          ... we do not have IT-technologies, microelectronics production ...

          - no one has them
          - because this is not in nature

          Are you serious? IT is not in nature? My mother, what have I been doing since 1981?
          The production of microelectronics (separated from IT by a comma) has also been spotlighted in some places in nature. True, in our country it does not shine - it smolders barely.
          Sorry, I allowed myself to argue with a very old and experienced programmer. "Because he himself is a very old and experienced programmer ... Aha? Yes
          1. +3
            April 25 2017 14: 36
            Quote from AUL
            Aha?

            - og feel
            - took a comma for a space
            - but spaces still need to be set, according to the rules of grammar (this is not for you, this is the Hysterics Under Number rather) wink
        2. +10
          April 25 2017 12: 51
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Sometimes it's better to chew

          like a cat ... go ... chew ... Yes how stupid you..troll ... The volume of new knowledge in the last century is growing exponentially. In order not to drown in the flow of information, quickly find it and use it correctly, there is a whole field of activity - IT technology. What this means, you can guess by expanding the abbreviation IT - Information Technology. Everything related to information - search, storage, transfer - refers to IT-technologies. - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/187804/it-tehnologii---chto-
          eto-takoe-dlya-chego-nujnyi-it-tehnologii ... SPAR ... BLAXY ...
        3. +3
          April 25 2017 13: 42
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Do not argue only with a very old and experienced programmer, og

          using System;
          class Example {
          public static void Main () {
          Console.WriteLine ("Cat Man Null - You're wrong !!!!!!");
          }
          }


          1. Mystery12345 wrote through "," -t.b. it's xnumx of different concepts
          Quote: Mystery12345
          we do not have IT-technologies, microelectronics production,


          2. We really DO NOT have them (practically)

          Quote from AUL
          and then what have I been doing since 1981 of the year?

          probably, like I clicked the slide rule?

          ==================================
          1. AUL
            +1
            April 27 2017 16: 14
            Quote from AUL
            and then what have I been doing since 1981 of the year?
            probably, like I clicked the slide rule?

            No, I already clicked "Nairi-2".
            1. 0
              23 July 2017 19: 19
              No, I already clicked "Nairi-2". CLASS! In 1980 I saw "Nairi-3.11" ... "made holes in punch cards" when passing the test ... MAGIC TIMES WITH DIGITAL MADON ... drinks
              I am also a former Cat Man Null programmer and AUL of the second half of the 80s.
              1. 0
                12 October 2017 17: 52
                This Nairi is a good thing, I dug out a drain of interesting metals from it at one time!))))
        4. +1
          April 28 2017 09: 56
          you don’t need expensive weapons to win; To defeat you, there will be enough powerful electronic interference. The author notes that such a thesis does not fully correspond to the previously told things. Earlier in the report it was said that electronic warfare equipment can only block enemy detection systems and only hide its forces. Nevertheless, in order to win the war, it is necessary to kill the enemy and destroy his material part.


          A small story from the history of the GSVG in the last years of its existence, which refutes the claim of American journalists that bombs, missiles, and shells are needed to destroy troops.
          Which was told to me by a friend who was directly involved in the events from the EW battalion at the GSVG.

          The EW battalion found signs of a relocation of an air group of tactical attack aircraft, for example, from Italy to Germany. The battalion was assigned a training task - to prevent relocation.

          The battalion tracked the movement of the air group and at some point applied the suppression of the frequencies of the navigation beacons, which caused disorientation of the air group. The frequencies of air traffic control services, which tried to guide the group to the air base, were also suppressed. The change of radio frequencies was suppressed. As a result, the air group was in a catastrophic situation: fuel is running out, there is no orientation.
          The NATO command in Germany was forced to request from the GSVG command to stop the suppression of the relocating group, since the crews would be forced to leave their cars to produce fuel.
          The request was granted; on the remaining fuel, the aircraft wing landed at the nearest airfield.
          The task of disrupting the relocation of the NATO air group was completed. Participants who participated in this operation received various rewards.
          Imagine if this task was a battle - without weapons, an entire air group would be destroyed.
          These are the capabilities of electronic warfare in the late 80s.

          One EW battalion is a striking force that surpasses the capabilities of an entire division of conventional troops.
      2. +4
        April 25 2017 08: 01
        Quote: Mystery12345
        because we don’t have IT technologies, microelectronics production,

        Bonba is. It is an EM coil with an ophiliard of turns of wire to which electric current is supplied and thus an EM field is created, the explosive charge is laid in the coil itself at the moment of undermining of which these turns are destroyed and an electromagnetic pulse is created that kills all the electronics in a certain radius.
        1. +10
          April 25 2017 09: 07
          An explosion of a small nuclear charge at a height of several kilometers above the ground, destroys all the electronics that were working at that time and stops all modern cars with electronic stuffing, within a radius of hundreds of kilometers (depending on the height and power of the explosion). With all this, perhaps without causing more harm to manpower.
          A kind of - a powerful electronic bomb.
          1. +2
            April 25 2017 09: 53
            Quote: Sasha Krymsky
            The explosion of a small nuclear charge at a height of several kilometers above the ground, destroys all the electronics that were working at that time and stops all modern cars with electronic filling, within a radius of hundreds of kilometers

            Quote: Sasha Krymsky
            A kind of - a powerful electronic bomb

            Well, actually EMP in a nuclear explosion is only one of the damaging factors.
            1. +1
              April 25 2017 10: 21
              Well, actually EMP in a nuclear explosion is only one of the damaging factors

              Well, and the electronic bomb, as a standard, how do you imagine it?
              1. +5
                April 25 2017 11: 08
                Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                Well, and the electronic bomb, as a standard, how do you imagine it?

                ... VMG ... explosive magnetic generator ... hi
                1. +1
                  April 25 2017 11: 16
                  You can’t push such a thing into a suitcase. Here you need a serious source of energy, even for a defeat in the prelature of ten meters.
                  1. +1
                    April 25 2017 11: 34
                    everything is not as inaccessible as it seems.
                    today there is already enough knowledge and technology to even make a manual version of the railgun (let us leave aside the question of utility)
                  2. +2
                    April 25 2017 11: 50
                    Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                    Here you need a serious source of energy,

                    There is another topic based on permanent magnets - it is not needed there.
                    http://www.borshec.ru/pages-view-28.html
                    1. +1
                      April 25 2017 12: 01
                      There is another topic based on permanent magnets - it is not needed there.
                      http://www.borshec.ru/pages-view-28.html

                      Inrest method of recovery good
                      1. +4
                        April 25 2017 12: 57
                        Tesla at the beginning of the last century, with the help of his famous tower, clearly demonstrated to the inhabitants of Monkhetten, the action, in part, of the second level of EMP (EMP), namely electric heavy duty discharges in the atmosphere of the earth. But even after a hundred and a half years, the source of such a powerful energy is incomprehensible, there are no guesses and assumptions. Apparently the genius was afraid to reveal the secret to the world, for our benefit.
          2. +3
            April 25 2017 13: 51
            Quote: Sasha Krymsky
            The explosion of a small nuclear charge at a height of several kilometers above the ground, destroys all the electronics that were working at that time

            At what distance from the initialization point?
            I give a hint:
            Inverse Square Law

            Quote: Sasha Krymsky
            and stop all modern cars with

            well if only ostОnovit
            - conductive nets or film coatings for windows, honeycomb metal structures for air intakes and ventilation holes and contact spring gaskets placed around the perimeter of doors and hatches.
            -Metal oxide varistors
            capacitive inductive filters
            fiber filters
            -high-speed zener diodes
            -protection from "clicks"
            and so on and so forth.
            =================================
            The main thing is, Schaub can’t burn his electronics (we have little and expensive, and not ours)
            1. +2
              April 25 2017 14: 33
              - conductive nets or film coatings for windows, honeycomb metal structures for air intakes and ventilation holes and contact spring gaskets placed around the perimeter of doors and hatches.

              The Faraday cage (shield) is a wonderful thing, especially with good grounding, but not every facility can boast of this protection, especially a mobile facility.
              The rest are some protections:
              Metal Oxide Varistors
              capacitive inductive filters
              -high-speed zener diodes
              and so on and so forth.

              Well this is not serious - kindergarten.
              At a pulse of 40-50 KVolt / cm ^ 2 per dusseks microsecond. These elements do not even have time to wake up. Especially varistors, refresh your memory, look at the schedule of their work.
              1. +4
                April 25 2017 16: 02
                Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                Well this is not serious - kindergarten.

                1.u high-speed zener diodes, the action of which is based on a sharp avalanche-like change in resistance from a relatively high value to almost zero (short circuit mode) when the voltage applied to them exceeds a certain threshold value. The speed of this process in modern zener diodes is about 10E-9s, and the theoretical limit can even reach 10E-12s

                UR "Phoenix" (AIM-54 Phoenix) has just such connectors, the design of which provides for special measures to ensure the formation of filter elements and the installation of built-in zener diodes from International Telephone & Telegraph
                2. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
                To protect objects, equipment and weapons, personnel from the action of electromagnetic radiation, metal shielding, equipment grounding, surge suppressors of electric networks, drainage coils, semiconductor zener diodes, etc. are used.

                Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                With an impulse in 40-50 kW / cm ^ 2 for tens of microseconds.

                ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE NUCLEAR EXPLOSION
                It is believed that the first stage of electromagnetic radiation generation is the most dangerous for electronic devices, in which, in accordance with the law of electromagnetic induction, due to an extremely rapid increase in the pulse amplitude (the maximum is reached at 3 – 5 ns after the explosion), the induced voltage can reach tens of kilovolts per meter per level of the earth's surface, gradually decreasing with distance from the epicenter of the explosion.

                Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                Especially varistors, refresh your memory


                Im: maximum permissible peak current with pulse 10 / 1000 μsec
                T: overload current duration (1000 μsec)


                Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                40- 50 kW / cm ^ 2 for tens of microseconds.

                maybe without ^ 2 yet? and in meters?
                MO RF
                The amplitude of the EMP can reach several hundred kilovolts per meter

                The maximum normalized value of the electric field strength is 50 kW / m In the far field, the maximum value of the external magnetic field strength is calculated by the formula Hmax = Etah / 377 and is equal to 133 A / m.
                1. +1
                  April 25 2017 17: 33
                  The amplitude of the EMP can reach several hundred kilovolts per meter
                  ! =, that is, not equal.
                  The maximum normalized value of the electric field strength is 50 kV / m. In the far field, the maximum value of the external magnetic field is calculated by the formula Hmax = Etah / 377 and is equal to 133 A / m.

                  Your Defense Ministry contradicts itself, it's time to send them to the military academy, sweep the parade ground fool otherwise they will write you such books ...
                  Definitely cm ^ 2 - powerful, isn't it?
                  1. +5
                    April 25 2017 18: 11
                    Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                    Your MO is contradicting itself, it's time to send them to the military academy, sweep the parade ground, otherwise they will write such books to you ...

                    Well, glad at least "yours" does not contradict

                    the electric field strength in the SI system is measured - in Newtons per pendant or in volts per meter (Russian designation: V / m; international: V / m).

                    Probably מִשְׂרַד הַבִּטָּחוֹן uses GHS (centimeter-gram-second), but there in GHSE units
                    Tell them. Suddenly out of courses

                    Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                    powerful, right?

                    knock yourself a rap will be true
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                      1. +5
                        April 25 2017 19: 02
                        Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                        But, fortunately, not all literate people have dumped yet.

                        strong argument, i.e. got rid of themselves in their pants, in public, and in the bushes?
                        In other matters, this is characteristic of the "specialists" hanging around here with the flag of your country.
                        Confused the energy flux density (though there are Watts, but Barack with them), however ...
                        Once again, for UO:


                        Threat. if something, then 1 CL = 1 A · s.

                        cannot be "quadratic"
                        Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                        And at your leisure, study Wikipedia.

                        As they say, the character "profesor" known in these circles:
                        Don’t advise what to do and I won’t tell you where to go (with your advices)
                2. +1
                  April 25 2017 17: 59
                  Yes ! I almost forgot.
                  I’m not sure what you’ve ever had in your life with electronic components with the overvoltage protections listed by you, which failed at 30-50% of V nom, with minimal loss of elements on the power unit. Even if there is such damage, this is a success for the enemy, he completed his task, although he temporarily removed the military equipment from the working state.
                  And in modern warfare, as you know, every second decides who wins.
                  1. +5
                    April 25 2017 19: 31
                    Shaw, the Crimean Nikola St. Petersburg, ran into opus- a, and how much was the amplitude, but the ....
                    ANECDOT: A man comes to a woman for a sekas, they lie, are actively moving, and then the doorbell rings: husband! A man under the bed, a husband and wife in the kitchen. And the little son comes up to the bed, looks under the bed and says: well, man, can’t you breathe? And how he breathed, how he breathed ....
                    A curtain)))).
                    1. +1
                      April 25 2017 20: 14
                      All that you are capable of "for the homeland"?
                      Yes friends, - you kind of crap around you.
                      1. +4
                        April 25 2017 22: 00
                        Poke, do you even find out who opus is)))))
            2. +1
              April 25 2017 14: 57
              Time power deley (tpd), in semiconductors no one has yet canceled, unfortunately.
              And of course.
              1. +1
                April 25 2017 17: 09
                Well, you see, for 1000 microseconds, I know people who manage to get a drink for a bottle, buy, return, open and drink laughing
                But it's not that! Imagine that you put chain mail (Faraday cage) on an object, the nose mosquito will not tarnish, but what about all kinds of external sensors, antennas, radars, analog meters, nodes using the BUS connection protocols between the external equipment. All this can’t really be shoved into the “iron mackintosh”, they just become useless, not to mention the fact that for every input or output (even with galvanic isolation) into the processor, you want to tie a slow, ineffective semiconductor guard.
                Unreal. Do you agree? I think that you had to push the board from the TV in your hands, the antenna of which was hit by lightning.
                1. +1
                  April 25 2017 20: 06
                  As they say, the character "profesor" known in these circles:
                  Do not advise what I should do and I won’t tell you where to go (with my advice

                  And can you quote Professor at least every day, straining your thoughts in your head? I understand that it was exactly the same when I was 15 years old.
                  You can take a professor to your brigade, scrub glasses. At least some benefit from you will be for people.
                  Threat. if something, then 1 CL = 1 A · s.
                  cannot be "quadratic"

                  Well, it’s linear and long, like your only, primitive gyrus, if you haven’t been told yet, I assure you that the earth is round and the square disappears in squares (I explain, a square is like your head)
                  primitive.
                  1. +5
                    April 25 2017 20: 20
                    "linear, primitive gyrus opus-a")))))))). Crimean hamster is furious; ))) Everyone move away !!!
                  2. +4
                    April 25 2017 20: 20
                    "linear, primitive gyrus opus-a")))))))). Crimean hamster is furious; ))) Everyone move away !!!
                    1. +1
                      April 25 2017 20: 37
                      For your motherland, your mother))
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                      Poor thing!
                      He began to stutter.
                      Relax sick!
                      1. +3
                        April 25 2017 22: 04
                        Swinging poop; ))). (opus- you have nothing to say)))))))
                      2. +1
                        April 25 2017 22: 05
                        Swinging poop; ))). (opus- you have nothing to say)))))))
                  3. +4
                    April 25 2017 22: 44
                    Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                    You can take a professor to your brigade, scrub glasses.

                    Well, why are you so much about a compatriot?


                    1. For you guys from the "promised land" (and most of them served in the IDF) - they will peck (and they can kick on the hill, there, in your homeland, if you, of course not from raguli, are hiding under someone else's flag, they won’t get there)
                    2. I won’t pull the "professor": he likes Obolon beer, but I don’t produce this ...
                    I’ll go broke the rate of the shekel to the ruble is not very


                    Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                    Well, it’s linear and long, like your only, primitive gyrus, if you haven’t been told yet, I assure you that the earth is round and the square disappears in squares (I explain, a square is like your head)

                    good passage ...
                    But not the topic.
                    repeat more #X
                    1. EMF is not an abstraction, but objective reality - a form of existence of matter that has certain physical properties that we can measure.
                    2. The strength characteristic of the field created by the charge q is the ratio of the force acting on the charge to the magnitude of this charge called the electrostatic field strength, i.e.

                    From the formula it follows that the unit of measurement of the electrostatic field strength is Newton per pendant (N / C).
                    Threat. you were misled by r ^ 2 (but after all, under the fraction NOT ONLY r, but above the fraction TOTALLY NOT U)


                    1 N / Cl is the intensity of such a field that acts on the point charge of 1 Cl with force in 1 N.

                    Volt "divide" by METER.
                    KARL: per meter-WITHOUT SQUARE.
                    What is smoking there in your version of “Sar ha-bitakhon”?

                    If Shaul Mofaz is still there, convey to him my indignation at the illiteracy of Citizens
                2. +3
                  April 25 2017 23: 31
                  Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                  zhanyant

                  Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                  Imagine

                  Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                  equipment

                  Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                  mackintosh

                  Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                  useless

                  Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                  galvanic

                  Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                  antennas

                  Don’t worry so much. Everyone already understood that you are a specialist. Not like our esteemed Opus. Probably you will be cramped with us .. lol A little more in this spirit, and we will roll complaints, since there are no minuses. Be scared. Let's be respectful, you have a chest with a wheel - didn’t you take it today?
          3. Maz
            +2
            April 25 2017 20: 23
            Sasha, you are a little behind Grandfather Sakharov, who came up with this same EM bonbu back in the last century, a kid in the mid-60s. so now her advanced relatives can be very small, light and extremely dangerous for many meters and even kilometers. A large and even more so cut down a city like New York quickly and without pollution.
            1. +1
              April 25 2017 20: 30
              Sasha, you are a little behind Grandfather Sakharov, who invented this very EM bonba

              Did you mean that Sakharov 'invented' the HYDROGEN BOMB? NOT ELECTRONIC.
              I hate deletants in cheap costumes.
        2. +5
          April 25 2017 14: 05
          Quote: Gray Brother
          It is an EM coil with an ofigiard of turns


          This is an old model.


          Crystal bomb (on mono crystal) - a fashionable feature
          + variations of spherical shock wave emitters RFEMI
          + "Hybrid": vircator plus VMG
      3. +4
        April 25 2017 09: 14
        Well, the production of microelectronics is really rather not than there is request
        it is true to say that we do not have IT technologies? Russian programmers make a significant part of the global IT pie.
        1. +5
          April 25 2017 09: 35
          and Russian hackers generally make the whole world
          1. +1
            April 25 2017 13: 08
            Right now, only France will be completed, then Germantsev, well, and there in 2018.
        2. +1
          April 25 2017 09: 55
          Quote: yehat
          Well, the production of microelectronics is really rather not than there is

          Well, you went too far. All that is needed for military microelectronics, we produce either ourselves or in conjunction with Belarus and China.
          1. +6
            April 25 2017 09: 58
            the lion's share of electronics is purchased directly from China in the civilian market. No "coupled", no "need for the military." What is there is used and far from always these elements correspond to the requirements of military equipment.
            It comes to senility - even the resistors are brought from China, it would seem that this can be done anywhere.
            1. +2
              April 25 2017 12: 39
              the lion's share of electronics is purchased directly from China in the civilian market.

              Is echsperd still not in class? Already learned to distinguish a cube from a square?
              So for reference, microcircuits from China are not used in the Strategic Missile Forces or for example on a falcon.
              Most of the protected series are still not produced in China, alas, or they do not supply them to us.
              1. +1
                April 25 2017 12: 52
                you moron hamlo and demagogue "not used")))
                look at the latest scandals, only the way are used.
                this is official data, it will not be so easy to argue with them as to be rude on a site.
                "they don’t deliver them to us"

                what a misery! Yes stupidly networks and offices do not carry. Moreover
                tendering rules play an important role, where the cheapest option is stupidly chosen. Most electronics sellers are not driven by what’s important, but by what’s profitable, and people hover, because there’s nothing else. There are very few direct contacts between manufacturers, and there is little information on China. There is also a closed cycle - they do not carry because they do not order and do not order because they do not carry. I saw it with my own eyes, because it just automated the purchase accounting system at one of the defense facilities. He asked specific people why it could not be otherwise. They all told. China does not mind trading with us the majority of the latest electronic base, but we cannot organize the process in such a way as to learn, bring and distribute. In other matters, idealizing China is also not worth it. Not everyone does there and not everything that does has the required performance characteristics.
                There is also a serious language barrier - try to find an expert in electronics who can speak and read Chinese.
                There are already quite a few Chinese who can speak Russian, but they are entirely traders and can help little in specific purchases.

                To understand how sad I’ll give an example. We have practically no production of small resistors, 99% are purchased by Chinese, but the quality there is such that they BURN and lose their properties for other reasons.
                There are complaints about the accuracy of the specifications and nomenclature.
                And these are only resistors - the simplest and most primitive that is in general in electronics. And if you take it more complicated - in general, sadness is complete.
                Replacing something with an analogue is a huge problem.
            2. 0
              April 25 2017 15: 00
              Quote: yehat
              the lion's share of electronics is purchased directly from China in the civilian market. No "coupled", no "need for the military." What is there is used and far from always these elements correspond to the requirements of military equipment.
              It comes to senility - even the resistors are brought from China, it would seem that this can be done anywhere.

              Your untruth. Last year on this site was an article about domestic electronics. Read and be surprised. Here is the link:
              https://topwar.ru/99017-v-rossii-nachala-rabotu-n
              ovaya-fabrika-po-proizvodstvu-mikroelektroniki.ht
              ml
              1. +1
                April 25 2017 15: 11
                what is wrong? in the article they write "to be", etc. and I'm talking about what has already passed and is happening in the near future
              2. +1
                April 25 2017 16: 19
                Quote: Nick
                Read and be surprised. Here is the link:

                Angstrem-T: Equipment purchased from AMD Dresden factory (130nm, copper metallization in 9 layers, 14000 plates per month)
                In 2008, AMD paid ~ 182.5 million euros for equipment, ~ 120 million euros - a license for the technology, ~ 10 million euros - to Meissner & Wurst for stage A of plant design. However, the owner of the equipment was not Angstrem-T, but the Cypriot offshore company Runica.

                There it remains until .....

                at the end of October 2012 - Angstrom-T was "officially" bought by Leonid Reiman. At the same time, IBM licensed 90nm technology, which will require acquisition additional equipment.


                65nm thus does not “upgrade” - 65nm usually requires 300mm plates for economic reasons.

                1) 1,2 micron silicon on sapphire (KNS) has been a technology for thousands of years, but it is still in demand (apparently, by conservative military customers for chips with high radiation resistance, for which reliability and proven solutions are more important than their timeliness).
                2) 0,6 microns, bulk silicon, sapphire silicon, silicon on the insulator, the ability to manufacture EEPROM, BiCMOS, IGBT. Apparently, a good process for power electronics.
                3) “Created” technologies with design standards 350-250 nm.
                4) “Created” technologies with design standards 130, 110 and 90 nm


                Lists exist (there are TEN THOUSAND) chips to be replaced, but they are ... classified

                rain-resistant TSMC 65 nm - it is not Russian m / y other


          2. +6
            April 25 2017 10: 23
            Quote: Nick
            All that is needed for military microelectronics, we produce either ourselves or in conjunction with Belarus and China.

            All you need is what? The cuts seemed to be still partially making their own. And the processors are only from the PRC, and in the PRC they are produced by American companies. Because in fact, we buy from the Americans, who simply removed production to the PRC. Some products, of course, have their own element base (7-8 went back years), but there are completely different specifications and dimensions. Slower and heavier. Cuttings on the legs, mikruhi with foot steps up to a millimeter. While the whole world has long mastered surface mounting, and mikruhi on BGA-packages can already tell the past of electronics.
            1. +1
              April 25 2017 10: 30
              Unfortunately, I’ve never heard of Russian microcontrollers and PLC. If there are any, give a discount on the resource, just interestingly.
              1. +1
                April 25 2017 10: 39
                Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                Unfortunately, I’ve never heard of Russian microcontrollers and PLC. If there are any, give a discount on the resource, just interestingly.

                If this is my answer - then I moved away from electronics production 10 years ago. He was engaged in circuitry of multilayer boards. Installation and assembly was in the Russian Federation, wave soldering and installation of the process on top - all their own. Products (design) - also their own. Muffins such as rezuki and Conder - Russian, and controllers, processors - import (Texas tools and something else). But I was working at related industries that do more responsible things (you understand why) - there were “brains” there, but the casings were significantly more massive. I don’t know the details, they didn’t let me look at what and how. And finally it's secret. smile
                And my production was reduced - everything was taken to the PRC, only development and operation remained, but I went to another industry.
                1. +1
                  April 25 2017 10: 46
                  I understood, but it was a question, and to you, too.
                  And by the way, what is a backpack?
                  1. +1
                    April 25 2017 10: 50
                    Ahh! fellow rezuk - resistor. Clear.
              2. +2
                April 25 2017 11: 18
                Perestroika killed not only the electronic industry in Russia.
                1. +1
                  April 25 2017 11: 29
                  This industry has become tight because of the cost of silicon boards, the payback of introduced electronics back in the USSR. A destructive course was taken to copy Western samples. And perestroika finished off.
                2. +3
                  April 25 2017 11: 34
                  And was she in the modern concept of perestroika time? The domestic elemental base did not shine. The UVM plant named after Rudnev produced products that met the requirements of 10-15 years ago. The country did not have funds for the modernization of production facilities. As a good example, the cost and quality of domestic-made TV receivers in the late 80s - early 90s.
              3. +1
                April 25 2017 11: 34
                Quote: Sasha Crimean
                Unfortunately, I’ve never heard of Russian microcontrollers and PLC. If there are any, give a discount on the resource, just interestingly.

                One of the companies:
                http://www.angstrem.ru/ru
                1. +1
                  April 25 2017 11: 40
                  Thanks at leisure, I will get acquainted with the possibilities.
              4. +2
                April 25 2017 13: 01
                But what about Elbrus?
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD%D0%BB%D1%8C%
                D0%B1%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81_2000

                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD%D0%BB%D1%8C%
                D0%B1%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81-8%D0%A1
                1. +3
                  April 25 2017 15: 13
                  Quote: _Ugene_
                  But what about Elbrus?
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD%D0%BB%D1%8C%
                  D0%B1%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81_2000
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD%D0%BB%D1%8C%
                  D0%B1%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81-8%D0%A1

                  Yes, not only elbrus. And Baikal is Angstrom. There was infa that AFK Sistema Evtushenkovskaya started manufacturing domestic microelectronic element base.
                  For some reason, on the site, in recent times, a lot of all-poly-polymerone public has appeared. Why? Because of the election or what? Vain work. Putin will win.
              5. +1
                April 25 2017 16: 39
                Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                Unfortunately, I’ve never heard of Russian microcontrollers and PLC.

                Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                refresh your memory

                Milander

                http://milandr.ru/products/
                K1986BE1QI - for aviation applications
                Development work completed by 19.04.2013

                4229.132-3 (cermet)
                LQFP144 (20x20 mm, plastic)
                Temperature Range
                minus 60 ° С ... + 125 ° С

                PLC, in my http://www.schneider-electric.ru/ru/
                stirs something
                1. +1
                  April 25 2017 18: 19
                  Definitely. Not bad performance for micro, even very! good

                  PLC, in my http://www.schneider-electric.ru/ru/
                  stirs something

                  Here! Either rejoice that they are muddied with the best submarines in the world, or upset, they will muddle, as in Iran and Siemens they muttered, then cintrefuges will fly like drones into the air.
            2. +2
              April 25 2017 12: 40
              And processors are only from the PRC, and in the PRC they are produced by American companies

              Alex, what processors? Well, why duplicate nonsense?
              1. +1
                April 25 2017 13: 21
                Quote: bk316
                Alex, what processors?

                Industrial. Not what you thought, not computer, and not Intel and AMD. If you dispute the terminology, then yes, it might be more correct to say "controllers", PLC, MCU.
            3. 0
              April 25 2017 15: 06
              Quote: Alex_59
              Some products, of course, have their own element base (7-8 went back years), but there are completely different specifications and dimensions. Slower and heavier. Cuttings on the legs, mikruhi with foot steps up to a millimeter. While the whole world has long mastered surface mounting,

              This is not about technology, but about the availability of a domestic element base. Do not confuse warm with soft.
        3. +1
          April 25 2017 11: 25
          Quote: yehat
          Russian programmers make a significant part of the global IT pie.

          it just seems. They are, but not so much in the total mass.
          1. +1
            April 25 2017 11: 30
            the general mass like Indians or Mexicans who write awful code do not move the IT industry anywhere, and Russian programmers are often in the most urgent and most complex projects.
            1. +2
              April 25 2017 12: 03
              Often - does not mean much and high quality. But IT pie is not made by programmers, but by people like Bill Gates or Larry Ellison. Russian names in this list will be very difficult to find.
              1. 0
                April 26 2017 09: 18
                did gates drive IT?
                This rogue ruined much more than he did!
                He created a monopoly, which also began to stifle the development of IT
                1. 0
                  April 26 2017 12: 32
                  Quote: yehat
                  did gates drive IT?

                  What prevents Russian warriors from using anything of their own instead of Windows?
                  Quote: yehat
                  He created a monopoly

                  I said that IT cake is not made by programmers, but by people like Bill Gates
                  The only thing is that taxes from Bill Gates pie are not received at all by the Russian Federation, but by the United States.
      4. +1
        April 25 2017 10: 50
        Quote: Mystery12345
        because we don’t have IT technologies, microelectronics production,

        If nothing sticks to Teflon, then how does it stick to the pan? In the sense of what for electronics to those who are going to burn it all? Joke..
      5. 0
        April 25 2017 16: 25
        Ha ha ha !!! You don’t have it, but they (black people) always had black caviar and black Volga ... And all this works for us now!
      6. 0
        29 May 2017 06: 48
        If only the US economy would be torn to shreds. I would have looked at the western world then.
    2. 0
      April 25 2017 10: 03
      E-B_U_U_M_y if exactly laughing
      Although according to Hollywood, we still have Winter Soldiers and Black Widows.
      1. 0
        29 May 2017 06: 49
        as well as Golden eye
    3. +4
      April 25 2017 12: 50
      Lord comrades!
      How many of you led a software project with at least a team of 20 people?
      And who really doesn’t know from wiki what is happening at our factories producing microelectronics for defense? None? Well then, why are you writing about what you don’t understand?
      Why be like yehat who, with pathos discussing anti-missile defense systems, writes that the EMP energy decreases in proportion to the CUB of the distance from the source?
      What I really want to demonstrate my ignorance?
      1. AUL
        0
        April 25 2017 13: 13
        How many of you led a software project with at least a team of 20 people?
        Well, I had to, and more than once. wink And to happen in Zelenograd happened a couple of times. And what?
        1. +2
          April 25 2017 13: 40
          Well, I had to, and more than once. wink And it happened a couple of times in Zelenograd. And what?

          It’s great if even the Indians participated in the project, the Chinese and the mattresses are generally fine. This means that you and I can somehow competently discuss the role of Russia in the global IT industry. But here’s the thing, we’ll probably go into the details, but the fact that in Russia there is no IT is simply wild for us.
          And here people who do not understand anything about it write down these same posts with aplomb.
          HERE I AND CALL THEM TO DO NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.
          After all (again, back to yehat), not everyone should know the fundamentals of physics (although it would be nice, of course), but if you started arguing about overcoming missile defense, about electromagnetic radiation, about electron-beam tubes, be kind at the level of grade 7 already ... am
      2. +1
        April 25 2017 13: 16
        VK316 agrees 100%.
        But still there are developments, there is a direction, the results, of course, are still not impressive, only in the ultra-small distances, IN the advanced countries there are a lot of dough in the project, on attack and defense, which means this is not utopia, but reality
        1. +3
          April 25 2017 13: 43
          It’s you who deviated a little, but in principle they’re almost right, just not right
          then this is not utopia, but reality

          There is a possibility that .... (hereinafter)

          The readers of VO will forgive me, but I'm used to the exact wording
      3. 0
        April 25 2017 15: 13
        Why be like yehat

        I led a project of 56 people.
        So what? let's get it out of our pants and try it on!
        you as you were an arrogant, near boor, and remain
        your tricks are a shovel shit fan, not thoughts.
        1. +2
          April 25 2017 17: 39
          Young man, before you fantasize, first deal with a cube and a square wassat
          Such blunders are excusable to younger students and accountants, and not to people claiming to have higher technical. And balabolite, like "let me now calculate the EMP of a nuclear explosion in a model close to reality."
          You are just ridiculous, in fact, like all liberals, but you are especially because you pretend to be technical literate.
          So the project if only "how to bring another 100500 young fools to a bulk rally"
          1. 0
            April 26 2017 09: 20
            already got it.
            the cube is valid for an atmospheric explosion, because 3 dimensional distribution in progress
            and the square is almost valid only near a ground explosion and then only near
            learn the materiel yourself, ignoramus.
            and he got already trying to stick to me all shit like Navalny or not knowing any issues.
            finally, something tells me that I'm 15 years older than you. So shut up better
            1. +4
              April 26 2017 14: 47
              the cube is valid for an atmospheric explosion, because 3 dimensional distribution in progress

              Well, that is, you have not heard anything about the law of inverse squares and continue to persist?
              Not only are you illiterate, you are also stubborn.

              I explain on the fingers, it’s clear even for a blonde.
              The EMP of a high-altitude explosion (E) is distributed three-dimensionally, that is, all energy is distributed over the surface of the sphere and the area of ​​the sphere is 4 pi R SQUARE, that is, E / 4 PI R SQUARE per unit surface.
              Got it or dumb even dumber?
    4. 0
      April 25 2017 20: 07
      Quote: ImPerts
      They have an iron man, the Hulk and Captain America. Why can't we have an E-bomb ?!

      fucking. well sounds good laughing
    5. 0
      April 27 2017 03: 56
      ImPertz April 25, 2017 06:02
      They have an iron man, the Hulk and Captain America. Why can't we have an E-bomb ?!

      It is advisable that those do not. who already "created and launched into the masses" E-mobile.
  2. +10
    April 25 2017 06: 52
    "A session of black magic with its subsequent exposure."
    They came up with it themselves, they were scared, they calmed themselves. Yes, some people have made money on this. Everyone is happy: the media with advertising and money, the most respected public received another batch of horror stories with assurances of NATO's invincibility.
    1. +1
      April 25 2017 10: 57
      Well, why? Everything is real, and not what kind of machinery
      Tesla at the beginning of the last century has publicly proved this.
      But he knew what we probably still don’t know. On the resources of unlimited energy.
      Just as we do not know what I wanted to convey to Gogol in the second volume "dead souls". Mystic?
  3. +1
    April 25 2017 07: 42
    why 36 volumes of GAVKs did not reach? probably their flight paths were not laid bypass?
    1. +5
      April 25 2017 07: 50
      because Konashenkov does not know where they are request
      1. 0
        April 25 2017 08: 10
        If you knew where Russia 24 covered the news for a week fellow
      2. +7
        April 25 2017 08: 14
        Quote: Tlauicol
        because Konashenkov does not know where they are

        In Dagestan with broken numbers.
    2. +8
      April 25 2017 13: 20
      There is a simpler answer to this ... because you are lying ... Everything flew away (according to the Pentagon) The base is destroyed. By the way, in the photo and video from what the Syrians provided, you can clearly see the purposeful hangars and what’s left in them from planes - a pile of scrap metal. For me this is the best indicator of the operation of cruise missiles. No missile defense system worked ... Naturally questions arose ... and to brighten up my helplessness, 36 disappeared Tomahawks were invented ... not made up for foreigners, made up for you, for the Russians ... To talk constantly about weapons without anal scum in the world and such a bummer ...
      1. +2
        April 25 2017 17: 16
        Quote: yksys58
        .No missile defense worked.

        ABM was not there.
        Quote: yksys58
        Talking constantly about weapons that have no analogues in the world and such a bummer ..

        Air defense at the Khmeimim airbase covered the object or direction to the object.
        Neither theoretically (nor even practically) intercept the Kyrgyz Republic following at Shairat airbase, she can not
        To make it clear, see the affected areas (this is for C-300P, but not the point)


        Stop carrying kaaaklobred. You are not a mutant?
        Quote: yksys58
        invented not for foreigners, invented for you, for the Russians.

        And I agree with that.
        Could lift IA into the air of Su-30 and Su-35 and intercept at least five.
        RPV destroy on the way to land, or uz goals, easy enough
        1. 0
          April 26 2017 17: 53
          We did not answer. We were even warned that the missiles would fly, but we decided not to shoot down. Well, if you decided to bring down, not all but some sort of% would definitely be put. EPT Policy
  4. +3
    April 25 2017 09: 07
    Hands off the sect of the "Holy" Cook "and the powerful" Khibin "! There was everything here! I believe, I believe in this God!
  5. +3
    April 25 2017 09: 35
    Let's see what they write on the day of the military builder after the joke about the construction battalion :)
  6. HAM
    +2
    April 25 2017 10: 44
    Others, remember the scandal of the early 2000s, when radio hooligans from the Volga region "extinguished" the secret frequencies of British military aviation ... And they are REB, REB .. good
    1. +1
      April 25 2017 12: 18


      This is not about banal jammers, we are trying to clarify the situation with second-level EMP systems.
  7. +2
    April 25 2017 11: 15
    Ohhh. Again, the hibinist sect got in touch and even wrote articles.
  8. +2
    April 25 2017 11: 20
    Let it be. Although it is not clear how this country, which does not produce the element base and other computer hardware, has been massively exporting mathematicians and IT specialists to a potential adversary for more than half a century, and is able to create competition for the common West.
    1. 0
      April 25 2017 13: 35
      However, we slowly steal the know-how of gullible Americans. What did you think!
  9. 0
    April 25 2017 11: 34
    I think that our TV tryndet less need.
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    1. 0
      April 25 2017 12: 51
      someone can and silently does, but someone can only hysteria in the media.
    2. +1
      April 25 2017 12: 53
      Similarly, it frightened everyone Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi .. now Kim-Jong-un is next in line .....
      Do you have a desire to add a comrade to the list of GDP? Oh well...
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    4. HAM
      +4
      April 25 2017 15: 10
      Have you even read the article? All the “scarecrows” just come from across the ocean, ours, except for Ragozin, do not even tremble. The next, continuing your logic, will be Netanyahu, the first banyugan acting out of the blue.
  11. 0
    April 25 2017 12: 50
    the Khibiny complex does not drop like a bomb, although it is suspended on external the pilots carrier
    The author, however, knows his job.
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    1. +1
      April 25 2017 14: 43
      Americans trepatch worse than the Russian media, briefly expose their faith to the opponent's righteous faith.
      1. 0
        April 25 2017 15: 06
        ... no need to write - T9 replaced the word with another. hi
  13. 0
    April 25 2017 13: 31
    Why do we need to tell and show all the secrets? So for the seed, a little bit of truth and a little bit of fairy tales. Let them think that we are giving them fiction. When the time comes and Americans encounter reality, it will become a “pleasant” surprise for them!
  14. 0
    April 25 2017 14: 37
    That the British were afraid. That Russia has electronic warfare systems. The United States has had systems for woods for 10 years now. Electronic warfare systems do not destroy locators; they only blind and prevent them from working. Russia, using the destroyer Donald Cook as an example, showed that Russia also has such systems . I doubt that the United States does not have them. Here the British do not have what this whole commotion is expressed in.
  15. +1
    April 25 2017 14: 38
    Quote: yksys58
    .. because you are lying ... Everyone flew (according to the Pentagon)

    That is, the Pentagon is not lying by definition? And here you come up with the rationale for what he said to confirm that he was right?
    However, from previous numerous cases it has been reliably established that the Pentagon is still lying.
    If so, then what grounds do we have for faith in this case?
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    0
    April 25 2017 14: 58
    The author either does not know, or deliberately misleads readers. In fact, there is a “radio-electronic” bomb, in the explosion it emits a powerful electromagnetic pulse, we and our probable “partner” have such bombs, which was written and shown on television. Something like this, but the popular mechanics are known for their one-sided "discoveries", and they made all the discoveries in the west, they still have little things to believe for this reason.
    1. +1
      April 25 2017 15: 18
      Let the black box in the studio, pliz, so as not to be unfounded.
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        0
        April 26 2017 11: 36
        google your fingers - type in the search bar "amy bomb" and enjoy.
        1. 0
          23 September 2017 00: 19
          And about the "11 Ocean friends" look weak? Or has it not yet been transferred to the Sinai continent?
          There you just have a black box :-)
  17. 0
    April 25 2017 15: 09
    I am a complete amateur in these matters, but I read the article with interest. It was even fun. Class.
  18. 0
    April 25 2017 15: 29
    The plot of "Russia 1" ended with a "pompous string": you do not need expensive weapons to win; To defeat you enough powerful radio-electronic interference. The author notes that such a thesis is not quite consistent with the previously told things. Earlier in the report it was said that EW can only block enemy detection systems and only hide their strength. However, to win the war, you need to kill the enemy and destroy his material part.

    ... only if we consider Russia as an aggressor. In order to protect this, this may be enough.
  19. 0
    April 25 2017 16: 26
    Ha ha ha !!! You don’t have it, but they (black people) always had black caviar and black Volga ... And all this works for us now!
  20. 0
    April 25 2017 17: 19
    http://www.cnews.ru/news/top/2016-08-24_na_angstr
    eme_proshli_obyski_po_delu_o_krazhe
  21. 0
    April 25 2017 17: 28
    http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/novye_razrabotki/ros
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    812873708 & fb_action_types = og.comments
  22. 0
    April 25 2017 17: 35
    http://vpk-news.ru/news/36354
  23. +2
    April 25 2017 18: 17
    Much has been written, but what they wanted to say is not clear!
  24. +1
    April 26 2017 13: 16
    Chaotic analytics. A lot of repetitions. In general, some kind of porridge. Without conclusions ...
  25. 0
    April 27 2017 02: 12
    Over and over again I quote the motto and it seems to me relevant for Russia at this stage: “It’s better to be a hazel grouse with steel plumage - than a well-fed turkey on someone else’s table,” The Yankee has a proverb “If you look like food, they’ll eat you up” So- with want gentlemen, or fill the belly, or stay with a half-empty womb but livelier than all the living?
  26. 0
    April 27 2017 02: 21
    Gentlemen, I have not read all the comets, but I met somewhere about the electronic bomb. So it just explodes a nuclear charge at a certain height and all the HANDE-XOX electronics are in a decent radius.
  27. 0
    April 28 2017 11: 51
    Have fun!
  28. 0
    April 28 2017 12: 09
    Imagine I read to the end.
    Can anyone explain to me what the author of the article wanted to tell us?
    And in general, the purpose of writing it.
  29. 0
    April 29 2017 07: 32
    The essence of electronic warfare is a temporary or permanent decrease in the effectiveness of the use of reconnaissance equipment, weapons, and military equipment of an adversary by means of electronic or fire suppression (destruction) of its electronic equipment, control systems, reconnaissance, communications. Thus, electronic warfare can include both a temporary disorganization of the enemy’s electronic systems by jamming, and the complete destruction of these systems (fire damage or capture).
  30. 0
    April 30 2017 11: 13
    ... feel this - chi I looked into ward number 6 at Kashchenko .. Immediately Vysotsky remembered ... But they didn’t try their own pipettes using their own ..?
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  32. 0
    3 May 2017 15: 17
    Well, nonsense, after all ... what the fuck is protection ..? In real battle? Kindergarten..show at the training ground and take a state order ..
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    6 November 2017 19: 45
    Quote: ImPerts
    They have an iron man, the Hulk and Captain America. Why can't we have an E-bomb ?!

    We have everything - Donald Cook has already checked! tongue laughing

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