Business Insider: In the ranking of special divisions of the world, Alpha is in sixth place

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Leading news portal Business Insider compiled and published a ranking of special divisions of the world. In this ranking of the most dangerous and qualified special units of the Russian "Alpha" went to sixth place. The American edition, noting that it is extremely difficult to accurately determine the best elite squad, still gave first place to the Seals from the United States.

Elite special forces units are the most dangerous and well-trained units that the state can boast of. They go to where others are powerless, they identify potential threats, carry out tasks of a strategic scale and carry out bold rescue operations.
- writes Business Insider.
Although it is very difficult to determine which of these units is the best, Business Insider tried to rank these units.


In eighth place is the Pakistan Special Forces Group, also known as the Black Storks. The detachment received its nickname thanks to special headgear. In October 2009, this detachment stormed the office building, where the Taliban militants * were allegedly held by 40 people as hostages, the newspaper writes.

The seventh place, according to the newspaper, was deserved by the Special Operations Unit of the Spanish Navy, which for many years has been considered one of the most distinguished special forces units in Europe. It is extremely difficult to get a green beret in this division - it is often the case that according to the test results no one candidate can join the squad.

The sixth place Business Insider gave the Russian "Alpha". This elite anti-terrorist unit was created by the KGB in 1974 and continues to operate under the auspices of today's FSB. The publication, however, notes that the detachment was criticized because of the actions during the terrorist attack on Dubrovka. As the newspaper notes, "then in the theater, at least 120 hostages died in the theater because of the effect of a sleep gas intended for militants."

Business Insider: In the ranking of special divisions of the world, Alpha is in sixth place




In fifth place was the Intervention Group of the National Gendarmerie of France (GIGN), whose main task is to free the hostages, the newspaper said. One of the most unusual episodes stories units occurred in the Al-Haram mosque in Mecca. Non-Muslims are forbidden to enter the sacred city, so three fighters of the detachment converted to Islam for a short time in order to help the armed forces of Saudi Arabia regain control of the mosque.

Fourth place edition gave the Israeli "Sayeret Matkal." The main tasks of this unit - the collection of intelligence and action in the rear of the enemy. Only the best can withstand training at the limit of human capabilities and get the right to enter this unit.

Third place, according to Business insider, deserves the Special Airborne Service (CAC) UK. Their motto: "Who risks - wins." When asked about the role of the SAS in the Iraq war, General Stanley McChrystal replied: “Key. Without them, nothing would have happened. ”

In second place was the Special Boat Service of Great Britain. During the selection to this squad recruits pass through grueling training in the jungle of Belize and learn to survive in combat conditions, and the candidates are subjected to brutal interrogation, the newspaper notes.

First place Business Insider gave "Seals" USA. The soldiers of this unit have years of intense training, which have become even tougher after the September 11 attacks. As the newspaper notes, many modern special forces units are organized on the example of this particular unit.

* "Taliban" - a terrorist group banned in Russia
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  1. +41
    April 19 2017 20: 55
    First place Business Insider gave "Seals" USA. The soldiers of this unit have years of intense training, which have become even tougher after the September 11 attacks. As the newspaper notes, many modern special forces units are organized on the example of this particular unit.


    Yes, we do not mind, come to our light.
    1. +47
      April 19 2017 20: 56
      First place of "Fur Seals" from the USA. How not to put their own forward. Seals will be offended and cry. They are so sensitive.
      1. +10
        April 19 2017 21: 00
        The people, and in the first days of Trump’s presidency, during the operation in Yemen, didn’t the Kittens leave?
        1. +20
          April 19 2017 21: 04
          The people, and in the first days of Trump’s presidency, during the operation in Yemen, didn’t the Kittens leave?


          Well, yes, I’m not confusing anything ...

          Journalists have found out the details of the death in Yemen of a fighter of the elite special forces of the US Navy "Seals". On instructions from US President Donald Trump, fighters attacked the home of the local al-Qaeda leader, women and children were killed during the operation, several US troops were injured. In addition, aviation had to destroy the Osprey tiltrotor damaged and abandoned on the battlefield.

          In Yemen, a member of the Special Operations Forces (MTR) unit of the US Navy Seals was killed. Three more of his colleagues were injured in a fierce shootout with militants of al-Qaeda (the organization is banned in Russia) on Sunday morning, writes The New York Times, citing the Pentagon.
          1. +28
            April 19 2017 22: 55
            Quote: Lyncher
            Well, yes, I’m not confusing anything ...

            ... You are absolutely right ... hi
            ... one more not unimportant moment ... those same "Seals" are not related to anti-terrorist activities ... this is a military unit of the US Navy ... that is ... they never took part in anti-terrorist operations ... it’s about to declare the participation of “Sailing” and “Russian” in the same ... that is, all this “scribble” is built on the principle - "I twist and twist, I want to deceive" ... rating, even comment on yourself do not respect ... hi
            1. +24
              April 19 2017 23: 13
              P.S. ... it's not even hard to guess ... why "suddenly" this "rating" appeared right now ... Petersburg events ... the escalation of fear among the people ... Alpha, will not protect you ... do you feel all the Anglo-Saxon meanness? ... they do not shy away from any dirty methods ... 205 Art. Criminal Code ... IN - THINK! ...
              1. +5
                April 19 2017 23: 24
                It is likely that now any dirty tricks and game is done to escalate the situation. It is impossible to turn Russia into a colony by force, so all the remaining methods are used.
                1. +7
                  April 19 2017 23: 29
                  Quote: Lyncher
                  It is likely that now any dirty tricks and game is done to escalate the situation. It is impossible to turn Russia into a colony by force, so all the remaining methods are used.

                  ... think in the right direction ... the NATO summit on Svalbard on the same topic ... there’s one moment ... if Norway itself violates the agreement on Svalbard ... it will become invalid ... that it will untie our hands ... NATO guys have forgotten that the year is not 1991 ... hi
                  1. +5
                    April 20 2017 03: 45
                    But what about double standards?) They can and this is normal, but we are just that barbarians and aggressors.
                    The simplest examples of the last weeks and days are the reaction of the UN (or rather its impotence) regarding the violation of international law by states in relation to the ATS. And the sultan had a second referendum, if we had a referendum on expanding the powers of V.V.P., then the howl would stand for the whole district.
            2. +10
              April 20 2017 05: 27
              The rating, by golly some kind of cf @ nny, in my opinion, the less the special forces lit up in the case, or the special operation took place, such as a violation of TB in production, and are indicators of the highest preparedness. Here, for example, the well-known “Polite People”, the entire peninsula was squeezed out of the state without a single shot, and there are only speculations about who they are.
              1. 0
                April 20 2017 09: 49
                Quote: uporov65
                The rating, by golly some kind of cf @ nny, in my opinion, the less the special forces lit up in the case, or the special operation took place, such as a violation of TB in production, and are indicators of the highest preparedness. Here, for example, the well-known “Polite People”, the entire peninsula was squeezed out of the state without a single shot, and there are only speculations about who they are.

                Imagine how spectacularly the USA would carry out the Crimean operation!
                She "disassembled" equipment with faulty parachutes, and was "bombed" by haamers, and raved ..... Like on the famous teachings
                Crimeans out of pity for their nature, and in order not to overwhelm the peninsula with broken and stuck equipment on the beaches, held a referendum in favor of the Yankees!
        2. +13
          April 19 2017 21: 04
          Quote: oleg-gr
          First place of "Fur Seals" from the USA. How not to put their own forward. Seals will be offended and cry. They are so sensitive.


          “Whoever dines with the girl and dances”, the exceptional ones began to calm themselves down with mantras and this is normal, otherwise God forbid they will start jumping from the windows again.
          1. +18
            April 19 2017 21: 14
            Again, "Guinea Pigs" ahead of the rest. Sensation did not happen ... wassat
            1. +12
              April 20 2017 00: 50
              Alpha squad was criticized for actions during the terrorist attack on Dubrovka. According to the publication, “then at least 120 hostages died in the theater because of the effect of the sleeping gas intended for militants . After that, the SEALs officially adopted the gas used by Alpha.
              There are more questions about Dubrovka to those who provided this operation and planned the provision. If I’m not mistaken, then two-thirds have already died in the hands of doctors, doctors were not informed about what people should be saved from.
              Team Six seal guys are certainly dashing, but as my friend says, he owns the situation: everyone would have such equipment and provision
          2. +5
            April 19 2017 21: 45
            Quote: cniza

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            cniza Today, 21:04 PM ↑ New
            Quote: oleg-gr
            First place of "Fur Seals" from the USA. How not to put their own forward. Seals will be offended and cry. They are so sensitive.

            “Whoever dines with the girl and dances”, the exceptional ones began to calm themselves down with mantras and this is normal, otherwise God forbid they will start jumping from the windows again.

            Rating is predictable as is the reaction of members of the forum. Rather, the earth and sky will change places than Americans or Russians recognize someone cooler than themselves. And what a comparison of sabotage and anti-terrorist units in one heap.
            I do not know if it is true that the Americans once noted in Ukraine at the initial stage.
            1. +6
              April 19 2017 22: 01
              Quote: MyVrach
              Americans or Russians recognize someone cooler than themselves.

              it's just bullshit, but comparing alpha and seals is stupid
            2. +10
              April 19 2017 22: 16
              Quote: MyVrach
              I do not know if it is true that the Americans once noted in Ukraine at the initial stage.

              I guess you remember that they disappeared somewhere, right? Everyone was dug in a real outhouse. I can’t say anything else.
              1. +2
                April 20 2017 08: 29
                Yes, Aleppo, you can recall how many of these "tattered cats" were surrounded there, and then taken to Tykhar by bus. And CAC was there for sure too.
        3. +6
          April 19 2017 21: 10
          Quote: Lyncher
          The people, and in the first days of Trump’s presidency, during the operation in Yemen, didn’t the Kittens leave?

          They are the most, doggie!)))
        4. +2
          April 20 2017 10: 06
          This "Rating" is nonsense. Where's the GSG 9? Where are the DPRK special forces (believe in the latter, such trainings are exhausting and at the limit of human capabilities that the “cats”, “cats” and other SAS could not dream of ...) Where is the notorious Polish “Thunder”?
          -Poles generally spit in the face without mentioning them.

          In fact, the rating of Business Insider (in the light of recent military operations) should have looked like this:
          1). Battle Buryat cavalry
          2). Altai tank militia
          3). Chechen divers saboteurs
          4). GRUSHA-FSB (combined legendary elusive tactical squad)
          5). Fancy bears (Electronic Russian "Hacker" special forces).
      2. +15
        April 19 2017 21: 04
        Quote: oleg-gr
        first place of "Fur Seals" from the USA.

        Passed Russian Alpha in the ranking: .................. The intervention group of the French National Gendarmerie (GIGN) .................. .........................
        ............. I almost fell off the chair, a fairy tale about the princess Frog. My opinion is the first two places, “Sayeret Matkal” and Alpha, then the British come, well, like without toads, and then seals.
        1. +3
          April 19 2017 21: 11
          This is normal. Tomorrow money will be needed and alpha will become a terrifying force.
          But if you ask the cats, talk .. well, at least with a retired Airborne Troops ... the answer will be negative.)))
        2. +19
          April 19 2017 21: 38
          Quote: Willow
          My opinion is the first two places, “Sayeret Matkal” and Alpha, then the British come, well, like without toads, and then seals.

          Excuse me, what are your criteria for rating? Okay, A. Meri think with comics - they saw the “body kit” of a fighter and, well, determine his rating. But we understand that the real capabilities of any unit are made up of many factors. Starting from the capabilities of foreign intelligence and the analytical department of the General Staff to the perfection of the Charter, material support and departmental affiliation. You can not compare a snake and a hedgehog.
          All these ratings are spreading cranberries!
          1. +5
            April 19 2017 21: 51
            Quote: Monos
            All these ratings are spreading cranberries!

            That's right ... but at least some idea of ​​the level can give a comparison of losses over the past years 20-25 ... well, and the number of failed operations.
            1. +7
              April 19 2017 22: 26
              Quote: NEXUS
              That's right ... but at least some idea of ​​the level can give a comparison of losses over the past years 20-25 ... well, and the number of failed operations.

              Andrew, hi I believe that the losses and results of operations can give an idea of ​​the level of the entire system into which this unit is included. But it does not make it possible to compare the effectiveness of different units.
            2. +2
              April 20 2017 02: 09
              Quote: NEXUS
              That's right ... but at least some idea of ​​the level can give a comparison of losses over the past years 20-25 ... well, and the number of failed operations.

              Those. the best unit is the one that picked up homeless people from the streets? In the sense that over 20 years spent 3000 detentions and has no casualties laughing
        3. +7
          April 19 2017 22: 29
          The creators of the rating completely ruled out the victory of the Russian special forces at the international competitions of special forces groups in Jordan, where they beat even the Chinese. By the way, where are the Chinese in the ranking?
          1. +5
            April 19 2017 22: 39
            Quote: Orionvit
            By the way, where are the Chinese in the ranking?

            They sat in the jury ... laughing
        4. +2
          April 20 2017 09: 20
          special forces have a certain specialization
          for example, GIGN is not bad in infiltration in Africa
          Poles are good at guarding and power support.
          alpha is very prepared for situations of civil unrest and all kinds of revolutions
          the British have become adept at supporting all kinds of opposition and destabilization
          each unit has strengths and not very strengths
          how to compare them is not clear

          I do not understand how to compare them
      3. +3
        April 19 2017 21: 50
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The American publication, noting that it is extremely difficult to accurately determine the best elite squad, nevertheless gave the first place to "Fur Seals" from the USA.

        And why not look at the loss of these units over the past 25 years ... About Kotikov in the first place ... than for example, our swimmers are worse?
      4. +1
        April 19 2017 22: 28
        They’re not even here, but who will bring more. The Pakistanis would bring more - would put them first. I know this sharashka with ratings a little in Germany.
      5. SAG
        -1
        April 20 2017 04: 47
        Quote: oleg-gr
        First place of "Fur Seals" from the USA. How not to put their own forward. Seals will be offended and cry. They are so sensitive.

        It’s good that margarine in my head was enough for Delta not to stick there ... those who had the richest list “overcame” behind me, I would laugh like a horse laughing
        1. raf
          -1
          April 20 2017 06: 35
          Quote: SAG
          Quote: oleg-gr
          First place of "Fur Seals" from the USA. How not to put their own forward. Seals will be offended and cry. They are so sensitive.

          It’s good that margarine in my head was enough for Delta not to stick there ... those who had the richest list “overcame” behind me, I would laugh like a horse laughing

          When I started reading the article I was looking forward to rzhach for Delta, but as you said they had enough margarine, but it would be a pity it would be really funny!
      6. 0
        April 20 2017 12: 39


        Something like this? laughing
        These "rating" would have included the "delta" in the rating. feel
    2. +8
      April 19 2017 21: 08
      Quote: cniza
      Yes, we do not mind, come to our light.

      Both bank and military ratings are a bluff of purest water. They just don’t understand, and they will never understand what ALFA is, what is the Airborne Forces, what is the GRU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs special forces, and other good units! And ratings can use ..... well it is clear where!
      1. +46
        April 19 2017 21: 19
        Quote: Tol100v
        other GOOD subdivisions

        1. +13
          April 19 2017 21: 25
          No need to shoot the office. laughing
          1. +8
            April 19 2017 21: 31
            Himself from her. Do not sleep !!!!!!!!!!!!!! laughing am
      2. +1
        April 20 2017 09: 27
        and what is alpha?
        it used to be a unit that could carry out fantastic tasks of complexity, risk for the interests of the state was the norm for them, they had their own ideological and moral guidelines, and I don’t understand what alpha is now. What are they trying for?
        For the sake of retirement? I do not believe that they are equal to the former alpha.
        1. +3
          April 20 2017 09: 36
          Quote: yehat
          For the sake of retirement? I do not believe that they are equal to the former alpha.

          You do not even know about a tenth of what they are doing, judging Alpha by the little bits of public information that pops up in the media. What are you talking about? Group tasks And no one changed, by the way.
          1. +1
            April 20 2017 09: 38
            I talk about motivation. What is the motivation for them today?
            1. +3
              April 20 2017 09: 42
              Quote: yehat
              I talk about motivation. What is the motivation for them today?

              The same ... and believe me, the level of training and professionalism is not lower than in Soviet times. By the way, Alpha’s specialization has expanded, taking into account new threats. And motivation is not only a good pension, but it will probably be strange for you to hear it, just love for the motherland, however pathetic it may sound.
              1. +1
                April 20 2017 10: 06
                no assumptions are needed, they certainly will not lead you to anything good
                more reliable coffee grounds good
                if it would be strange to hear, I would not touch this topic at all.
            2. +5
              April 20 2017 09: 48
              Quote: yehat
              What is the motivation for them today?

              1. 0
                7 July 2020 11: 34
                Great movie !!! How many times reviewed !!!
            3. +8
              April 20 2017 12: 17
              Quote: yehat
              I talk about motivation. What is the motivation for them today?

              There are, and always will be, people for whom the MOTHERLAND is not an empty phrase. Read the history of Russia. White officers, nobles, white bone served in the Red Army. Tens of thousands. Have served the Bolsheviks? No. Served Homeland. Leaders come and go. Homeland remains. Count Ignatieff, diplomat of the Tsarist Government, military attache in Paris. The owner of colossal finance, engaged in the return of Russian prisoners after the First World War home. After the revolution, he handed over everything to Krasin, and he himself went into service. He served the motherland.
              A.I. Denikin. He refused to head the Russian Liberation Army, telling the fascists that if he received the Army, he would deal with them first, and only after that with the Bolsheviks. I risked my life. He served the motherland. When he realized that the Homeland was not with him, he left, having folded his arms himself and led away the Russians who were at war with the Homeland. Princess Vera Obolenskaya, who died in Paris, participating in the Resistance during the years of World War II.
              A Chechen policeman, before being shot by militants, said, “Work, brothers!” He served the motherland. They are holy and immortal in our memory.
              1. 0
                April 20 2017 12: 27
                Sorry, but what you say is demagogy.
                There is a specific question - what is the motivation for alpha. She has no and cannot have any spiritual connections with Denikin or Count Ignatiev.
                If you have nothing to say, don’t speak better.
                I still do not understand their motivation. Homeland? Ambition? Money? Glory? Social? Or something else? I would like to know what is in their heads now.
                I used to know. Now I do not know.
                None of them go into battle with the slogans "for the homeland" or "for Putin" or "for democracy." So I want to know why. Different people serve there, but this is a close-knit team and I'm sure many of their views are similar to each other.
                1. +5
                  April 21 2017 10: 56
                  Sorry, where are you going to leave want to? If you follow your logic, you will not find the answer why the Motherland is generally protected and its orders are followed. And this is the case everywhere.
                  And by the way, special forces work silently, as a rule, without effects.
                  1. +1
                    April 21 2017 11: 03
                    I didn’t understand why the alpha motivation suddenly in your head jumped to the suggestion of going somewhere
                    I didn’t understand why you suddenly assumed that I was looking for an answer on the topic. why protect the homeland.
                    the question is completely different - what do Alfovites have in their heads? I'm not interested in any effects, the color of their shape or the number of accelerants, I wonder what they are capable of. To defend the homeland, it is enough to join the army or even work as a forester. To go to alpha, this motive is not enough.
                2. +1
                  April 21 2017 13: 22
                  Quote: yehat
                  Sorry, but what you say is demagogy.
                  There is a specific question - what is the motivation for alpha. She has no and cannot have any spiritual connections with Denikin or Count Ignatiev.
                  If you have nothing to say, don’t speak better.
                  I still do not understand their motivation. Homeland? Ambition? Money? Glory? Social? Or something else? I would like to know what is in their heads now.
                  I used to know. Now I do not know.
                  None of them go into battle with the slogans "for the homeland" or "for Putin" or "for democracy." So I want to know why. Different people serve there, but this is a close-knit team and I'm sure many of their views are similar to each other.

                  Who would doubt that the crippled, with brains handed down by the chic of shop windows and the abundance of sausages in foreign supermarkets, will have questions about the motivation of ordinary people who have not lost the concept of homeland, fatherland.
                  My father, a hereditary Cossack from the Orenburg region, told me in my deep childhood that the heart should be given to a woman, life to the tsar, soul to God, and honor to anyone.
                  It’s a pity that I can’t meet you and I can’t flog it, as it should be with us, in the Cossack region, in the square, without mercy and until the ussachka.
                  1. 0
                    April 21 2017 14: 46
                    you are like a mad dog biting everyone who turns up.
                    see a doctor. preferably a good one, you have a hard case.
                    1. 0
                      April 21 2017 15: 58
                      Quote: yehat
                      you are like a mad dog biting everyone who turns up.
                      see a doctor. preferably a good one, you have a hard case.

                      I like you to them. With great ....
              2. +6
                April 21 2017 10: 51
                doubovitskiapplaud
    3. +7
      April 19 2017 21: 13
      ... but first, the doping test Yes
      1. 0
        April 19 2017 21: 38
        But in general, I mean I put or put on their ratings in general ..
        Kote Pts strongly shit is a fact!
        1. +4
          April 19 2017 21: 52
          What? In the first place, aren't the very seals disgraced in the Bay of Pigs? They lost to sugar growers! With a machete!
    4. +2
      April 19 2017 22: 02
      Again zhurnalyugi compare special forces of different purposes, anti-terror with the troops.
    5. +1
      April 20 2017 04: 15
      How can one compare a Russian warrior with miserable, cowardly Western animals? Complete nonsense!
    6. 0
      April 20 2017 08: 51
      Well, "Delta" is not rated)
  2. +8
    April 19 2017 20: 56
    Ha, ha, everyone praises his swamp, all these ratings are ridiculous. And put the plague. seals in the first place .... very patriotic .... America ordered it ...................
  3. +1
    April 19 2017 21: 02
    rating is not easy, but we did.
    By the saying, "British scientists have proven, well done." A real rating cannot be made.
    Many have different tasks, there is no single criterion for evaluation.
  4. +6
    April 19 2017 21: 02
    okay ... first place the seals then the british ... then ...- d.b (s) S. Lavrov. and where did South Africa and the Philippines do? the yuarovites are very strong, and the Filipinos in general, came in without knocking, almost without sound, launched a bamboo club ...)) or rather knives, and each fired someone with a dumb, brainless head for memory, like a trophy.
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 21: 07
      Quote: parkello
      okay ... first place the seals then the british ... then ...- d.b (s) S. Lavrov. and where did South Africa and the Philippines do? the yuarovites are very strong, and the Filipinos in general, came in without knocking, almost without sound, launched a bamboo club ...)) or rather knives, and each fired someone with a dumb, brainless head for memory, like a trophy.

      I think the Chinese comrades, serious guys. Just an amazing rating!
    2. +8
      April 19 2017 23: 47
      Forgot Cuba - “Black Wasps" also sting is not childish.
  5. +3
    April 19 2017 21: 05
    ... gave first place to Fur Seals from the USA.
    They are there, beyond the puddle, "sea", and for us they are "overseas seals" ...
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 23: 16
      If the technical equipment, then yes, the first place for cats. If in fighting spirit and training, in the second ten.
  6. PPD
    +4
    April 19 2017 21: 07
    Sixth HA!
    They are always the first for us! Yes
  7. 0
    April 19 2017 21: 08
    There could be no other))). Gluttons are always in front)))
  8. +6
    April 19 2017 21: 09
    Rating about what? How can one compare the anti-terror group, military intelligence, guards, and generally the devil knows what ... pilots?
    Well, seals yes ... video in the topic0 \))
    1. +10
      April 19 2017 21: 17
      Some very strange comparison of special forces. Like the one who is better - a frigate, tank, or fighter.
    2. +9
      April 19 2017 21: 28
      Yes, boaters, tractor drivers, bulldozers, etc. In general, the rating is about nothing! Units have different tasks, in connection with this, preparation is different, etc. Ah! .. well, yes! The rating is published in order to remind once again that cats are the coolest.
    3. +3
      April 19 2017 21: 31
      This suggests that analysts in the news portal Business Insider .... proffesiAnaly ......
  9. +7
    April 19 2017 21: 11
    Judea Matkal, in any case, the British and Amer specials should be 3-5 places, i.e., well-deserved second place. Alfa Namber van. Considering how our people were financed and equipped 20 years ago, the poor officers were without their housing and decent wages (imported competitors were all packed to the ears), and they laid their lives on the altar of victory, then first place to the domestic manufacturer.
  10. +7
    April 19 2017 21: 12
    American edition, noting that extremely hard accurately determine the best elite squad, nevertheless gave the first place to "Fur Seals" from the USA.

    Extremely hard it would be possible to imagine the storming of the Amin’s Palace and the Ho Chi Minh Trail, and so please bully
  11. +1
    April 19 2017 21: 17
    How can you make a rating if these units are engaged in DIFFERENT tasks?
    see quote from Lavrov.
  12. +3
    April 19 2017 21: 22
    In the first place are “seals” ... They are so mi-mi-mi ... The whole Internet is littered with seals.
    And do not care that on their account there is not a single successful operation. laughing
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 22: 02
      Did you yourself account for unsuccessful operations?
      1. +4
        April 19 2017 22: 24
        Quote: Ararat
        Did you yourself account for unsuccessful operations?

        You will first learn to build where your nose is popping, and then brag about “victories”, troglodytes! am
        1. +1
          April 19 2017 22: 26
          Quote: Dym71
          You first learn to build where your nose is popping, and then brag about “victories”, troglodytes

          Do not get mad laughing
          1. +1
            April 19 2017 22: 32
            Quote: izrailnam
            Do not get mad

            Yes, I'm not angry.
            Here you are! Caught winked
            1. 0
              April 19 2017 22: 34
              Quote: Dym71
              Quote: izrailnam
              Do not get mad

              Yes, I'm not angry.
              Here you are!


              Dung
              1. 0
                April 19 2017 22: 38
                Quote: izrailnam
                Dung

                So you can’t write to yourself, thoughts are material! sad
                "Peace to the world", "Yegor65" do you remember?
                1. 0
                  April 19 2017 22: 41
                  Quote: Dym71
                  Quote: izrailnam
                  Dung

                  So you can’t write to yourself, thoughts are material! sad

                  So you wrote Yes
                  Of course I remember. And what is it?
                  1. 0
                    April 19 2017 22: 48
                    Quote: izrailnam
                    So you wrote

                    It’s one thing, I wrote, for you, another thing, you continued, injured?
                    Quote: izrailnam
                    Of course I remember. And what is it?

                    Found him in LJ, exchanged a few words, sorry for his ban Yes
                    1. 0
                      April 19 2017 22: 51
                      Quote: Dym71

                      It’s one thing, I wrote, for you, another thing, you continued, injured?

                      I can’t live without jokes. wink
                      Quote: Dym71
                      Found him in LJ, exchanged a few words, sorry for his ban

                      Could not have a problem. request
                      Say hello to him. And ask how his youngest daughter is living there and whether she is already married. feel
                      1. 0
                        April 19 2017 23: 00
                        Quote: izrailnam
                        I can’t live without jokes.

                        Hard with you! I tell you about Thomas, you tell me about Yaryama.
                        Quote: izrailnam
                        Hello to him

                        And I understood correctly, from whom to say hello, neighbor? wink
                        As far as I remember, you come from Kaluga?
                        Quote: izrailnam
                        And ask how his daughter, the youngest, is living there and whether she is married.

                        He writes that he commands 160 new recruits, a rare beauty, if you remember at Ctypor, you’ll understand what I mean! wink
        2. 0
          April 19 2017 23: 01
          So it turns out in the case you have nothing to say? Just slogans, accusations and arguments like himself.
          1. +2
            April 19 2017 23: 07
            Quote: Ararat
            So it turns out in the case you have nothing to say? Just slogans, accusations and arguments like himself.

            Are you new to the Russian language?
            I meant that you destructive force
            1. 0
              April 19 2017 23: 21
              Quote: Dym71
              e

              Look down the page
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      3. 0
        April 20 2017 12: 30
        Well, the epic fails have more than enough.
  13. +8
    April 19 2017 21: 24
    I’m just wondering what the cats are doing about this .. Alpha’s standard workout ..?
  14. exo
    0
    April 19 2017 21: 28
    More than debatable. But what about the "Pennant", are silent? And where did the vaunted Delta disappear?
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 22: 30
      Quote: exo
      But what about the "Pennant", are silent?

      Saboteurs are not as valued as Contera laughing laughing laughing laughing
    2. +3
      April 20 2017 00: 37
      Quote: exo
      More than debatable. But what about the "Pennant", are silent? And where did the vaunted Delta disappear?

      Delta buried itself in April of 80.
    3. +1
      April 20 2017 15: 14
      Quote: exo
      More than debatable. But what about the "Pennant", are silent? And where did the vaunted Delta disappear?

      Would you like to look at our saboteurs? Maybe you want to look into the school and shoot a movie?
      Anti-terror is still not so secret, because we, the inhabitants, should also know that they will protect us. .
  15. +3
    April 19 2017 21: 28
    And this is against all the failures of "seals" around the world to them the first place ... how much did they buy ???. .. they are the first only in Hollywood action movies !!! They are in the eleventh place, especially after the special forces of the DPRK !!!
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 23: 04
      Whose special units have no failures in their history?
      1. 0
        April 20 2017 10: 43
        at some Nepal or the Virgin Islands. It turns out they are the coolest?
  16. 0
    April 19 2017 21: 30
    Non-Muslims are forbidden to enter the holy city, so the three soldiers of the squad converted to Islam for a short time to help the Saudi armed forces regain control of the mosque.
    Strange, maybe I'm confusing something. but in my opinion, the rejection of Islam is punishable by death. So that you can’t go into it "for a while"
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 22: 08
      Who will punish them?
      1. 0
        April 20 2017 09: 48
        Quote: Ararat
        Who will punish them?

        Yes, there are enough unkind people.
    2. +1
      April 20 2017 15: 17
      Quote: svp67
      Non-Muslims are forbidden to enter the holy city, so the three soldiers of the squad converted to Islam for a short time to help the Saudi armed forces regain control of the mosque.
      Strange, maybe I'm confusing something. but in my opinion, the rejection of Islam is punishable by death. So that you can’t go into it "for a while"

      This is not strange. The strange thing is that the composition of the fighters does not include the faithful, Jews and others who know the specifics of the area where they have to work.
  17. +6
    April 19 2017 21: 31
    Quote: Willow
    Passed Russian Alpha in the ranking: .................. The intervention group of the French National Gendarmerie (GIGN) .................. .........................
    ............. I almost fell off the chair, a fairy tale about the princess Frog. My opinion is the first two places, “Sayeret Matkal” and Alpha, then the British come, well, like without toads, and then seals.

    ----------------------
    1) The French pissed off the attack in Bataklan, a truck, the editorial board of Charlie Ebdo.
    2) Seals crap in Somalia, ditching the Blackhawk helicopter while taking the infirm old Bin Laden.
    3) SAS frankly helps terrorists of all stripes, coordinates ISIS units, “rebel” units in Libya, and other garbage fighting for money and lavish-handed gurus.
    4) The German secret services are forced to concede to tolerasts and other political correctness, therefore they also do not shine.
    I have everything on this pseudo-rating.
  18. +1
    April 19 2017 21: 32
    Definitely the first place - “Sayeret Matkal”. Special boat service in the UK - is it in the ranking with what a fright? Sherlock portal seen enough?
  19. 0
    April 19 2017 21: 32
    And if without sarcasm. It seems to me that there are no ideal special forces for example, if Alpha, Kotikov, Matkal, SAS are thrown into the African Bush, then the South African will quickly put all the specialists.
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 21: 40
      And who now serves in the South African army? Bushmen?
      1. 0
        April 19 2017 21: 52
        You know nothing about the war in southern Africa. They have combat experience in conducting operations in the bush against the partisans who were trained by the instructors of the USSR, PRC, DPRK, and CUBA.
        1. 0
          April 19 2017 22: 21
          Now everything is different there, they have thrown off the "yoke" of white people.
          1. 0
            April 19 2017 22: 26
            You think that all the whites there were in special forces.
            1. +3
              April 19 2017 22: 46
              The whites were in control of the country, the army, officers, etc. The CIA and other evil spirits, provided material and technical and theoretical support, and did it unmatched better than any savages now. They had the latest equipment, for example: even then, South Africa used adjustable shells for artillery. When the USSR (military. Specialists) left Angola, for the patrons of South Africa this topic became uninteresting. The Vietnamese also managed to grind a lot of adversaries at home, but whether they can repeat this is a big question.
    2. +1
      April 19 2017 21: 45
      South Africa now looks like Uganda. And here is the operation of the Israelites:
      http://grimnir74.livejournal.com/5104058.html
      1. +2
        April 19 2017 22: 25
        Quote: rruvim
        http://grimnir74.livejournal.com/5104058.html

        I read the blog of this Jewish storyteller. Fantastic excellent. I especially liked the Israeli tanker who killed 60 Soviet tanks in one battle. laughing laughing laughing. Jews are such Jews.
    3. 0
      April 19 2017 22: 00
      Quote: ventel
      Alpha, Kotikov, Matkal, SAS to throw in the African Bush then the South African quickly put all the specialists.

      and let's add riot police here
      1. 0
        April 19 2017 22: 13
        You did not understand the point for each theater of operations has its own specifics to explain, during the USSR, our specialists went to KUBU where Cuban special forces acted as opponents, so ours always lost.
        1. 0
          April 19 2017 22: 53
          The Cuban special forces built an airfield in Grenada ... In the history it is written that he offered armed resistance ... And that’s it!
          1. 0
            April 19 2017 23: 01
            He does not build special forces of the airdromes or captures or destroys. And in Grenada, it was the Cubans who put up organized resistance.
        2. 0
          April 19 2017 23: 23
          What kind of nonsense, what Cuban special forces? Is this the one that our trained in Angola ?. How old were you in Soviet times? Judging by the errors, not yet how much.
          1. 0
            April 19 2017 23: 50
            You won’t believe I was looking for the oath of the USSR. And about the delirium, it’s certainly offensive when the students surpassed their teachers.
  20. +1
    April 19 2017 21: 38
    And not bad work NZSAS, Polish GROM and Czech 601.skss
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 22: 27
      Quote: Vz.58
      And not bad work NZSAS, Polish GROM and Czech 601.skss

      Yeah, heard! laughing
      But where in your comment "Seals", with its first place? belay
  21. 0
    April 19 2017 21: 38
    Istkhabbarat al-Askariya would put in second place. This is the military intelligence of the Palestinian Authority. Their people are even in the IDF. It conducts operations against both "those" and "other" terrorists. Helps Egyptian intelligence services.
    1. +1
      April 20 2017 06: 12
      Quote: rruvim
      Istkhabbarat al-Askariya would put in second place. This is the military intelligence of the Palestinian Authority. Their people are even in the IDF.

      recourse
      I would like more detail ... this is how their people in TZAHAL?
  22. +2
    April 19 2017 21: 39
    In the first place should have been Ramshan and Jumshut, because I so wish! fool
  23. +1
    April 19 2017 21: 41
    If you take all areas of special forces, then I will give the first place unconditionally to the Italian unit- Comsubin !
    My rating of three places is as follows:
    1. Comsubin (Italy)
    2. SAS (UK)
    3.Delta (USA)
    1. +1
      April 19 2017 21: 48
      1. Comsubin (Italy). Link to at least one operation?
      1. 0
        April 19 2017 21: 51
        Look for yourself. My comment for specialists ... who is in the subject
        1. +1
          April 19 2017 22: 55
          Rescue of drowning emigrants. Here is the whole Comsubin.
          1. 0
            April 20 2017 03: 51
            ... Oga, as well as the British battleships Valient and Queen Elizabeth launched to the bottom ... and also our Novorossiysk ... and this is only a small part of the military operations ...
    2. +2
      April 19 2017 21: 59
      Quote: Holoy
      3.Delta (USA)

      I'm certainly not an expert, but you can not mention successful operations of the delta, do not mention a computer game and films, more than this office has no jambs in my opinion
      1. +1
        April 19 2017 22: 01
        Look in the Archives for my comments on the Delta squad ... I don’t want to repeat, and it’s hard every time to write about the most secret and elite division of the US MTR ... Delta is not only Special Forces, but also Intelligence, including even Strategic ... more in Delta than the fighters ...
        1. 0
          April 19 2017 22: 12
          Quote: Holoy
          there are more operatives in the Delta than fighters ...

          then in general how to svnivat?
          1. 0
            April 19 2017 22: 39
            Of course, this rating is conditional ...
            In my ranking, I took into account primarily military operations, revolutions, coups ... experience, financing ...

            And so in Anti Terror I like the French GIGN. Here is her combat operation:

            And purely in Classic Special Forces, I give preference to the 75th Rangers regiment
            1. 0
              April 20 2017 06: 49
              Quote: Holoy
              In my ranking, I took into account primarily military operations, revolutions,

              it's not even the average temperature in a hospital
              explain to ME NOT A SPECIALIST how it is possible to compare the work of combat swimmers and a unit imprisoned not for attack but for defense
              no one compares the actions of fighters and bombers
        2. 0
          April 19 2017 23: 50
          Well, yes ... have you seen enough of the Black List? "The Delta is subordinate to the US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM), but is controlled by the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC)." Delta has seven nannies. In addition to the special helicopter unit, there is no equipment. "Intelligence", especially "strategic" are far from these squadrons, like Enceladus from Saturn.
          1. 0
            April 20 2017 03: 53
            ... Gee ... you, at least surfing the Internet in search of information, would try to understand that USSOCOM and JSOC are a single vertical of control over the entire US MTR ...

            I do not need to write nonsense ...
  24. +5
    April 19 2017 21: 57
    sorry but some idiotic rating
    alpha - anti-terrorism
    seals - marine special forces
    with the same success TU 160 F 35 and Hercules can be pushed into one rating
  25. +2
    April 19 2017 22: 04
    Delusional rating from idiots.
  26. 0
    April 19 2017 22: 06
    The Americans are the first ... Yes, really ... As they were posers and losers, they remained! And this is the state of affairs from the time of the 2nd World War (the stories of the father, a front-line soldier ...). And now nothing has changed. Please read: http://tchest.org/special_forces/432-gruppa-alfa.
    html.

    You will not regret!!! And no words are needed anymore ...
  27. +3
    April 19 2017 22: 29
    In this rating of the most dangerous and qualified special forces of the Russian "Alpha" got the sixth place.

    Well, what's wrong? Let them think, then these problems will be theirs!
  28. +2
    April 19 2017 22: 36
    crazy idea to compare special forces of completely different orientation
  29. +1
    April 19 2017 22: 39
    I hope everyone read The Moment of Truth by V. Bogomolov. Steeper than Tamantsev, the “cleaner and skohvachat” professional is difficult to imagine. I re-read it five or six times.
  30. +1
    April 19 2017 22: 40
    It doesn’t matter who and how puts Alpha in the ranking, but it’s important in what place it appears.
  31. 0
    April 19 2017 22: 41
    What the hell ?! The rating even on Majumdar was! Business news portal! If Defense News compiles a rating of some thread of banking structures, you’ll blow off the cap!
  32. +3
    April 19 2017 22: 42
    “Seals” are actually on the verge of getting to know North Korean special tactical forces not included in the rating. Which about this "rating" most likely did not even hear.
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 23: 01
      "... late in the evening on March 26, 2010, in the Yellow Sea, a few kilometers from Pennendo Island, the Korean Navy corvette" Cheonan "received an" external hydraulic shock "and broke and sank. 46 sailors and officers were killed, more than 50 people were saved. "
  33. +1
    April 19 2017 22: 55
    How delta forgot, patriots!)) The coolest special forces of the world however. I know about Entebbe and the storming of Amin’s palace, but what did the rest do?
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 23: 01
      Quote: Antony
      I know about Entebbe and the assault on Amin’s palace, but what did the rest do?

      There is a movie about SAS Bravo 2 .0 called. So there, the valiant British warrior Iraqis forced shit to lick. good
  34. 0
    April 19 2017 23: 04
    Determined by the Hollywood movies, then of course
  35. +1
    April 19 2017 23: 04
    But the special forces of the 1st Directorate, the former GRU, then, as amateurs, didn’t get into the ratings at all?
    If Americans are first everywhere, then why is the result everywhere sad in all recent conflicts?
  36. 0
    April 19 2017 23: 09
    Dym71,
    Quote: Dym71
    And I understood correctly, from whom to say hello, neighbor? wink
    As far as I remember, you come from Kaluga?

    That's right, I'm from Kaluga. She’s just in Siberia. I never really talked with you. And you know me well somewhere.
    Quote: Dym71
    He writes that he commands 160 new recruits, a rare beauty, if you remember at Ctypor, you’ll understand what!

    I wouldn’t refuse that she would command me belay wassat fellow
    I know a stupor. Just what you remembered him for. I don’t understand your hints.
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 23: 34
      Quote: izrailnam
      That's right, I'm from Kaluga

      Felt
      Quote: izrailnam
      She is just in Siberia.

      Nifiga did not understand, in garlic!
      Quote: izrailnam
      And you know me well from somewhere.

      Is it good when you can’t find Kaluga in Siberia? wassat
      Quote: izrailnam
      I wouldn’t refuse that she would command me

      She is very pretty! laughing
      Quote: izrailnam
      I know a stupor. Just what you remembered him for. I don’t understand your hints.

      "Krasmash" - special in Israeli beauty, laid out such photos, mother do not grieve!
      1. 0
        April 19 2017 23: 37
        Quote: Dym71
        Do you really think that's good?

        Well, answer, since it’s not difficult.
        Quote: Dym71
        She is very pretty!

        Vidal. But only for you too young.
        Quote: Dym71
        "Krasmash" - special in Israeli beauty, laid out such photos, mother do not grieve!

        This is natural for me. hi
        1. 0
          April 19 2017 23: 40
          Quote: izrailnam
          This is natural for me.

          Pontorez laughing
          1. 0
            April 19 2017 23: 42
            Quote: Dym71
            Quote: izrailnam
            This is natural for me.

            Pontorez laughing

            And you are a Zionist lackey. Sent by the kagal to follow the mine lol
            1. +1
              April 19 2017 23: 47
              Quote: izrailnam
              And you are a Zionist lackey. Sent by the kagal to follow the mine

              Rude, keep the answer:
              The child’s soldier will not offend
              Of course, if you don’t see.
              And so, asshole and forward,
              Fly like a ball into the garden
              1. 0
                April 19 2017 23: 49
                In short, I sleep. There is an opinion that some forum users need a personal check.
                1. 0
                  April 19 2017 23: 53
                  Quote: izrailnam
                  In short, I sleep.

                  Layla tov "watching" wink
                  Quote: izrailnam
                  It is believed that some forum users need a personal check.

                  Checked, all answered in the comments.
                  1. 0
                    April 20 2017 12: 23
                    Quote: Dym71
                    Checked, all answered in the comments.

                    You didn’t answer anything.
  37. +1
    April 19 2017 23: 10
    Business Insider: In the ranking of special divisions of the world, Alpha is in sixth place
    Die on my knee the first five! am laughing Or about the elbow feel
  38. 0
    April 19 2017 23: 11
    It doesn’t matter where our special forces are. The main thing is to fulfill the task.
  39. 0
    April 19 2017 23: 12
    Triumph of the American Delta: http: //balalaika24.ru/accidents/padeni
    e-chernogo-yastreba-samaya-provalnaya-spetsoperat
    siya-armii-ssha
  40. 0
    April 19 2017 23: 16
    In eighth place is the Pakistan Special Forces, also known as the Black Storks.

    Black Storks appeared in Afghanistan, then in Chechnya shone.
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 23: 28
      Even in Kashmir they lit up, but they were quickly neutralized by the Indian CRPF.
  41. +3
    April 19 2017 23: 31
    Quote: Vz.58
    And not bad work NZSAS, Polish GROM and Czech 601.skss

    Why? Nicaraguan special forces are cool, Honduras, the same is not bad, the Mongols are good, especially on horseback. First place Vanuatu and Luxembourg.
    1. 0
      April 19 2017 23: 36
      Forgot to say about the Colombian FARC and drug dealers. Submarines "People's Commissars": http: //korabley.net/news/podvodnye_lod
      ki_narkotorgovcev / 2012-09-15-1257
  42. +7
    April 19 2017 23: 51
    another nonsense and even no attempt at serious analysis.
    in general, all these Western "ratings" are nothing more than processing Zaz @@@@ x brains ... all these ten best tanks / helicopters / special forces ... the trouble is that people in the Western model of society are less willing to move brains and joyfully take any nonsense for the truth and even refer to such "sources" when talking on the topic "who is cooler?"
    well, as for this creation, it’s not clear who ... the special forces on the list have quite a bit in common ... solve different problems with different specifics of application ... how to compare army special forces and anti-terror ?! these are essentially opposites. these intelligence / saboteurs (essentially the same terror) and other anti-terror specialists ... this is just an example. and indeed where are the Asians ?! DPRK with its very dangerous specialists and the same China? Where are they? are the Spaniards better prepared than alpha ?! I strongly doubt it ... are the fighters saeret matkal prepared better than alpha ?! I’m not at all sure ... Seret Matkal and Alpha can and can be served in a partial comparison, but only conscripts / contractors work in the Saret here and are delayed no more than 4-5 years. it is clear that there are also old burnt specialists, but the bulk consists of repeat conscripts / contractors ... in alpha, I think the backbone of much more experienced people.
    1. +2
      April 20 2017 00: 12
      I agree! But Saeret can rely on conscripts from Duvdevan and specialists from Kidon.
      Alpha is not the only special forces in Russia. Many fighters and specialists perished, performing unusual tasks. For example, “Alpha” was “thrown” to storm Pervomaisky. The release of children in Beslan was rather unsuccessful; employees and hostages died. Many left the service - professionals. Now, if you look at the "box" periodically, journalists say, "during the liquidation of the gang leader, an Alpha employee died ... Maybe they are lying. But the elite special forces should not suffer losses. This is an axiom.
  43. +1
    April 20 2017 00: 07
    I would believe if the Israelites were the first, because constantly in strains, but that mattresses or arrogance would be the first - this is where they could distinguish themselves. And the French generally slurred liquid when they tried to smoke terrorists from themselves.
  44. +1
    April 20 2017 00: 31
    Quote: ventel
    And as for delirium, it is certainly a shame when the students surpassed their teachers.

    Judging by your comments, special forces training is something like a summer camp where good teachers train some promising guys. For your information. In order to prepare a combat-ready group capable of working in various conditions and for any purpose, it takes not a year or two. It takes decades, with rich experience in warfare. In the USSR, they have been stubbornly and closely engaged in this since the 30s, if not earlier. And good “teachers” are not enough here, the state always does this, and it costs a lot. And anyway, what do you think of the special forces? What you are saying about the Cubans is similar to the situation with ordinary Soviet military advisers. who were engaged in the preparation of the Cuban military and of which in Cuba it was before a fig.
    1. 0
      April 20 2017 01: 34
      And what about the USSR / RUSSIA’s very rich experience in military operations in the jungle, the African bush or the American Selva.
      1. 0
        April 20 2017 01: 59
        Mars will also be pulled here, and where is it? There are specifics everywhere, but do not confuse the experience of conducting special operations with the series on survival on the discovery channel. And anyway, where did you get some kind of “cool” Cuban “special forces”, which even ours are not good at? Finish already.
      2. 0
        April 20 2017 12: 34
        Do not la la experience in Angola, nothing speaks of?
        1. 0
          April 20 2017 12: 41
          You mean when the Soviet combat swimmers clashed with the South African combat swimmers.
  45. 0
    April 20 2017 00: 44
    Quote: Willow
    My opinion is the first two places “Sayeret Matkal” and Alpha, then the British come, well, as if without toads

    I think the French and the British should not be underestimated. In my opinion, Alpha is either the third or fourth, but there can’t be a pussy in front of them. Jews come first. They have more combat practice than all the rest combined.
  46. +1
    April 20 2017 00: 45
    Like this
    Fur Seals from the USA
    managed to get around the British, after that, there’s no sense even reading, the special forces of the French gendarmerie were placed higher than Alpha ...

    1. SAS, Vympel Group and SBS, units of the swimmers "Dolphin" of the GRU of the Russian Federation;
    2. GRU subdivisions, "Green Berets" (Gr. SpN United States Army), "Sayeret Matkal"

    Again, it was necessary to consider the anti-terrorist units and the reconnaissance and sabotage divisions in separate ratings, as part of the same SAS (each regiment has a platoon of anti-terror) ...

    I think the best units of the special forces are Russian and British, everyone else looks with enthusiasm and horror at their competition ....

    Americans are not grateful at all, the British always, after the next "cant" of the American leadership, with the help of their diplomacy and intelligence, pull the Yankees out of another adventure ...
    1. +1
      April 20 2017 00: 57
      SAS of course specialists. But they had unforgivable failures:
      http://tchest.org/specnaz_vs_terrorizm/223-folkle
      ndy.html
  47. +1
    April 20 2017 01: 06
    And here is the result of actions not of some special forces there, but of ordinary regular marines:
    "... The captain of the ship was able to get in touch with the Russian warship Marshal Shaposhnikov. A helicopter was sent to reconnaissance from his board, and less than a day later the Shaposhnikov reached the scene of the incident. The pirates tried to shoot the reconnaissance helicopter with one return fire of which he was killed. Upon arrival in a designated area, speedboats with marines were lowered from the Russian ship. After a brief gunfight, Russian troops took control of the ship and disarmed the pirates. According to the official version, they were from infringed — landed in an inflatable boat with a small supply of food and water (but without navigational aids). The version of the Russian Ministry of Defense is that they probably could not reach the coast and died at sea. It was suggested that the pirates were shot by Russian marines. "
    Although they did not get into the rating smile
    1. 0
      April 20 2017 01: 20
      This is Fleet intelligence, subordinated to the GRU, I pointed it out ...
      rruvim Today, 00:57 ↑
      SAS of course specialists. But they had unforgivable failures:

      Not mistaken, only someone who does not give anything ....
      Nobody would have believed that a simple architect mobilized into the army during World War I as an officer would create one of the most frightening special units in the world, in any case Luis Arabiani is considered the father of the British special forces (SBS - "Special Kayak Service" is a separate subject)....
      By the way, the British themselves learned about the existence of SAS in their country by chance when the Iranian embassy in London was freed ....
      After the Falkland War, the British for a long time were instructors of the American special forces, the British special forces for the American special forces are still an icon ....
      The authority of SAS is evidenced by the fact that special forces, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand bear the same names ....
      These units fought in all their and American conflicts (in Vietnam, the British did not participate, as the United States did not ask them, I don’t know why ....) ...
      The British have the following saying: “If SAS knocks on your door, then death knocks on you” ...
      1. 0
        April 20 2017 01: 43
        Isn't SAS really so secret? Report from the 1971st (Oman):
        "The senior officer and instructor of the British Army, Colonel Anthony Jeeps, describes how the Firgits, numbering 750 people, including more than 100 SAS officers, launched an offensive against the Front in October 1971. Although the Firgits significantly weakened the Front’s fighting efficiency, neither they nor regular Oman "British forces were unable to defeat the rebels. The military balance leaned in favor of the Sultan only when other countries began to help him."
        SAS showed itself when they suppressed the Sipaev uprising in 1857-1859.
        1. 0
          April 20 2017 02: 00
          In Oman, they have a training base for preparing troops for fighting in desert conditions (skills were useful in an Iraqi company), the same in Brunei for preparing combat operations in the jungle, in Northern Norway every year (along with parts of the 3rd Royal Br . MP) conduct training in the Arctic (skills come in handy on the Falklands)

          Isn't SAS really so secret?

          And when you yourself, the first time you heard about the existence of the GRU (they still wear the form of paratroopers, are encrypted in the same way as Alpha wore the form of BB) ...

          http://airsoft4you.ru/o-realnyih-podrazdeleniyah/
          sas-spetsnaz-vooruzhyonnyih-sil-velikobritanii /
          SAS showed itself when they suppressed the Sipaev uprising in 1857-1859
          Have a drink?
          It was officially created before WWII, but its first outlines appeared in WWII ...
          1. 0
            April 20 2017 02: 20
            I drank ... Still, a bright week! It was created as a landing service in 1941. Anyway, for us (the GRU, etc.) it was not secret, for the average English people, yes.
            1. 0
              April 20 2017 02: 21
              Quote: rruvim
              I drank ... Still, a bright week! It was created as a landing service in 1941. Anyway, for us (the GRU, etc.) it was not secret, for the average English people, yes.


              I mean ordinary citizens of the USSR ...
              1. 0
                April 20 2017 02: 38
                Still, it seems to me that the SAS is “imprisoned” against the IRA. The small number of squadrons, almost no heavy weapons, command through several structures ...
                1. 0
                  April 20 2017 03: 14
                  rruvim Today, 02:38 ↑
                  Still, it seems to me that the SAS is “imprisoned” against the IRA


                  Ulster Defense Regiment - (Eng. Ulster Defense Regiment, UDR). The British Army Infantry Regiment, formed in 1970 to replace the disbanded Special Police Force B. Initially, had an 11-battalion composition, then the number of battalions decreased to 9 (1984), then to 7 (1991). Thus, it was the largest regiment in the British army (in most armies in the world, regiments have 3-4 battalion personnel).

                  http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/417697

                  Well, this camouflage was often seen on the street, get acquainted with the British Ulster, it was tested in Northern Ireland (the former Ulster province of Ireland, which left Corona after Ireland gained independence) on the SAS (then it spread to the entire British army ) ...
                  Once I saw a paratrooper on Airborne Forces Day in this camouflage (trousers), I don’t know what she was wearing ....

                  Still, it seems to me that the SAS is “imprisoned” against the IRA

                  However, you are right one of the companies of the 22nd Regiment is constantly located (on a rotational basis) in Northern Ireland ...
  48. +1
    April 20 2017 01: 59
    These cats can come first only in terms of budget
    1. 0
      April 20 2017 02: 13
      However, like all American ...
  49. 0
    April 20 2017 02: 28
    As for Laurence of Arabia, there is a lot of mythology.
    1. 0
      April 20 2017 03: 28
      I read a book about him, one moment was remembered, the meaning of which is such: Arabs cannot be united for a long time, they are capable of participating in a fleeting operation (battle) against a common enemy, after which they begin to engage in “squabbles” as far as I know. ... but Lawrence had to face this problem ....
  50. NUR
    0
    April 20 2017 03: 49
    Who wrote that and first place. They will not die of modesty. They will quickly forget their failures, but others will always remember.
  51. +1
    April 20 2017 04: 23
    Are GIGN cool too? I wouldn’t say anything based on the Paris results. They, like RAID, did not perform very well. Yes, so we had to bring in a foreign legion for cover. The same analysts also put the Austrian cobra in the forefront, due to the zero loss rate over the years of its existence. So all this is idle talk.
  52. 0
    April 20 2017 04: 29
    I have nothing against Alpha, but Alpha and Vympel, like all of our special forces recruited individually, would not rank highly for one reason - petty savings where it is not worth saving! I was told by one person who contacted them back in the USSR... when recruiting, they gave preference to people with Moscow registration... In the USA and Great Britain it’s hard to even imagine, there the presence of an apartment does not matter... But in the Delta they take, for example, ready-made special forces from units of the entire MTR... but in terms of intelligence, since only training for operational activities begins there (Recruitment, Turnouts, Searches, Cache, Analytics, Industrial Intelligence, Strategic Intelligence...etc...)
    In the Delta, they become ready employees only at the age of 40...Delta is a completely autonomous mini CIA...with its own power component...All active Delta employees in peacetime are dispersed under the cover of fictitious documents in the countries of the potential enemy...Here with Delta even SAS can’t compare, because they don’t have such funds...

    Without Finance, the elite cannot be prepared...

    True, now I don’t know what our trend is... But I heard that Household problems are still difficult to solve... but Household life is pennies... which are not worth saving...
    1. +4
      April 20 2017 05: 32
      Well, isn’t alpha/pennant recruited from army special forces?
      Paying attention to everyday issues is very important, of course. but I don’t think that this makes the special forces of the Russian Federation worse than their colleagues from other countries, including staff members. after all, the same alpha has enormous experience. Training methods have been improved and refined for decades. but again, the specifics are different everywhere and the use of one or another unit is dictated by local specifics...
      Here in the comments there are examples of failures... so everyone without exception has them! saeret matkal has failed operations more than once... seals... saz... alpha... but I strongly doubt that in terms of the totality of her fighting qualities, alpha is inferior to any other specialists from wherever they are. Failures of specialists sometimes occur in the wrong application... that is, not for the intended purpose... there are quite a lot of precedents...
    2. 0
      April 20 2017 11: 36
      Holoy

      Delta is a completely autonomous mini CIA... with its own power component... All active Delta employees in peacetime are dispersed under the cover of fictitious documents in the countries of a potential enemy...

      You just described the activities of the GRU abroad...

      Even SAS can’t compare with Delta

      Is this the Delta Force that “successfully” liberated the American embassy in Tehran?

      Although I agree with you, of the American special forces, Delta is the best, I don’t know why SEALs were rated higher...
      1. +1
        April 20 2017 12: 55
        Quote: commbatant
        Is this the Delta Force that “successfully” liberated the American embassy in Tehran?

        Operation Eagle Claw was developed by Delta Commander Charles Beckwith. I recognize it as unique and very daring, I’m sure if it weren’t for the poor training of the pilots it would have been carried out successfully! Charles Beckwith did not take this aspect into account during the development of this operation - Pilots...
        During this operation, the main Assault Strike would be carried out by the 75th Ranger Regiment... and by that time Delta operatives were already in Tehran under the guise of foreigners coordinating the local Agents... although there were also Delta assault groups, but there were not many of them... There are many nuances and details that we still don’t know about...
  53. +1
    April 20 2017 05: 11
    A typical Anglo-Saxon rating based on show off. That says it all. Has nothing to do with real life. Advertising in its purest form.
  54. +1
    April 20 2017 05: 11
    Laughter and that's all. Gentlemen, editors, please remove “Alpha” from this shameful list.
  55. +9
    April 20 2017 05: 51
    Here I found a picture on the topic)
  56. 0
    April 20 2017 06: 08
    Quote: cniza
    First place Business Insider gave "Seals" USA. The soldiers of this unit have years of intense training, which have become even tougher after the September 11 attacks. As the newspaper notes, many modern special forces units are organized on the example of this particular unit.

    Yes, we do not mind, come to our light.

    The violin sang tenderly, and so GENTLY...at the Ikhnen funeral....
  57. +2
    April 20 2017 06: 22
    Compare anti-terrorist special forces with the military... Strong, creative, for the average person it will work.
  58. 0
    April 20 2017 06: 35
    As for the French, there is obvious anger.
  59. +1
    April 20 2017 07: 36
    How can you compare))) this comparison is similar to how my son compares his transformers and the transformers of his friends in kindergarten,
  60. 0
    April 20 2017 07: 42
    To understand who the Russian special forces soldiers are, at least watch the film “Wolfhounds.” You shouldn’t compare them with some kind of seals,
  61. 0
    April 20 2017 07: 43
    Who would doubt that
  62. 0
    April 20 2017 08: 15
    First place Business Insider gave "Seals" USA. The soldiers of this unit have years of intense training, which have become even tougher after the September 11 attacks. As the newspaper notes, many modern special forces units are organized on the example of this particular unit.


    This is the conclusion of the Americans, everyone has some kind of operation behind them, and they are SIMPLY the best and that says it all, for which they live according to the principle of who is stronger and who is right, which they consider themselves to be.
  63. 0
    April 20 2017 08: 31
    Is this how they raise morale? There is a video on YouTube: “The heroic landing of the NATO team in Crimea”
    1. 0
      April 24 2017 10: 33
      really funny: the “very scary” guys learned for the first time that it can be dirty on the street :-)
  64. +1
    April 20 2017 08: 34
    And “Kotiki” and “Delta” and “SAS” and others know our “Alpha”, “Vympel” very well - and according to the comments, as a rule, of former specialists from Western units ... they clearly recognize the best training of our special forces
  65. 0
    April 20 2017 09: 06
    Quote: uporov65
    For example, the well-known “Polite People” seized an entire peninsula from the state without firing a single shot, and there is only speculation about who they are.

    Nobody reclaimed the island; the island, known to everyone, was stupidly surrendered by Turchinov.
    1. +1
      April 20 2017 12: 30
      Quote: Vladimir
      Quote: uporov65
      For example, the well-known “Polite People” seized an entire peninsula from the state without firing a single shot, and there is only speculation about who they are.

      Nobody reclaimed the island; the island, known to everyone, was stupidly surrendered by Turchinov.

      Why don't you hang it there? Or is the fart empty?
  66. 0
    April 20 2017 09: 09
    Hollywood rating
  67. 0
    April 20 2017 09: 10
    And how would you like to live under capitalism, where a minority appropriates a large part of the national income or the results of the labor of the majority of the people, this is actual corruption! Reconciliation cannot exist in the state, in the world, between peoples and countries, especially under capitalism, where there is no justice, poverty and misery, where the ideology of nationalism, fascism, Zionism, Nazism, chauvinism, etc. exists.
    He sits on the throne in troubled times,
    With the devil he serves as an executioner,
    After all, greed and evil are a birth burden
    All capital, and hell nothing.

    He sits above gold in diamond rings.
    And he dictates his will to the world!
    He holds in bony and dirty hands
    Bloody sword and a golden ax!

    There is a boiler on a "cold" fire,
    Where the demon cooks bloody food
    Cruelty and evil in robbery and war,
    The whole world capital leads to the ashes!

    He ruins everything holy in man,
    After all, money is his law and love,
    He leads a servant to kill anyone,
    For the sake of profit, human blood is pouring!

    Servants people, that a penny in your pocket,
    People are like cattle to them!
    They need slaves in lies and deceit,
    Hell on Earth is their main bastion!

    Their greed and evil are the golden ax
    They cut everything alive with a bloody knife.
    Even in hell there is no corrupt world
    Who lives such a robbery!

    According to his strength, any crime
    For the sake of wealth and false freedoms
    Society is building a sick, rotten,
    Which commands a gang of gentlemen!

    In the struggle for the freedom of other generations,
    Rally all the people under the banners of the fathers,
    Under the red banner of great achievements,
    Great victories over the bloody enemy!

    Throw yourself away the hellish burden
    The burden of villains, murderers - the "dead"!
    Cast away from you a lying tribe,
    Speeches of traitors and scoundrels!

    You rip out their sting full of poison
    The poison of deception, historical lies.
    Do not let the servants of hell defeat
    In the battle with you for a better life!

    You tear out the claws of hostility and terror
    Destroy their bloody feast forever
    That brings you time of discord
    And all of us leads to a mutilated world!

    He sits on the throne and rules the whole world,
    Bloody hand rules everywhere
    The demon will be an idol to all capital,
    In a rotting evil greed from greed!
  68. 0
    April 20 2017 09: 17
    Business Insider gave first place to the US Navy SEALs.


    It's clear. I can imagine what Business Insider would have learned about myself and where Business Insider would have ended up if it had given first place to Alpha.

    Quote: cniza
    “Whoever eats a girl, he dances with her,” the exceptional ones began to calm themselves with mantras and this is normal


    That's right.
  69. 0
    April 20 2017 09: 55
    There is absolutely no trust in these bourgeois news portals, much less in their ratings.
  70. 0
    April 20 2017 10: 18
    Such ratings are only interesting for people with vulnerable pride, since there is not enough information for comparison. Judging by the answers, there are plenty of them on the portal. am
  71. 0
    April 20 2017 10: 58
    Of course "Cats"!!!! Americans praise themselves! The British even have something for protecting boats. For a drunk fisherman? laughing
    1. 0
      April 20 2017 12: 02
      During the Cold War there was a regiment "Comaccio" (6 companies) - specialization: guarding the naval base of the British Navy, now apparently it no longer exists....
  72. 0
    April 20 2017 14: 38
    Whoever makes the most noise gets first place. Made me laugh, really made me laugh! And another trend is that those who do nothing make no mistakes.
  73. 0
    April 20 2017 14: 39
    I think that none of these seals would last even a day in Kolyma in winter. In any outfit. Even if they "go through grueling training in the jungles of Belize and learn to survive in combat conditions"
    1. 0
      April 24 2017 10: 47
      alone - they will last, but with an officer - no = trench foot and friendlyfire. Imagine the cocaine addict Psaki, who commands you, for example, 1942 operation Cottage "Battle for Kiska! The worst landing of the US ARMY": 10m 48s video
  74. +1
    April 20 2017 16: 04
    The American publication, noting that it is extremely difficult to accurately determine the best elite squad, nevertheless gave the first place to "Fur Seals" from the USA.

    As soon as I read this far, I started laughing. Somehow I immediately remembered the legendary song from KVN “Seryozha, well done!”...

    Well, seriously, before any special forces try to get on the same level as Alpha, let them first do the same thing, or at least storm Amin’s Palace.
  75. +1
    April 20 2017 16: 49
    they push their own people through because if they don’t say anything about them, their supermen will be offended
  76. 0
    April 20 2017 18: 02
    The American publication, noting that it is extremely difficult to accurately determine the best elite squad, nevertheless gave the first place to "Fur Seals" from the USA.

    A purely PR approach - whoever is promoted better is cool.
    But we need to start with a definition - in the sense of the fight against terrorism, intelligence operations or special operations behind enemy lines and sabotage.
    And be assessed by the success of real operations carried out, and not by the number of action films filmed.
  77. 0
    April 20 2017 19: 01
    in sixth place, and at the world championships in Urkain, Syria, Afghanistan and other venues they wet seals like kittens
  78. +1
    April 21 2017 13: 51
    "Delta" are "seals"? I saw a headline about it: “A unit that has never known victories”... I didn’t even read it
  79. +1
    April 21 2017 16: 54
    The fact that they want to humiliate us is understandable, it is also clear that they are afraid of us, and if so, then they don’t care how much....... But our construction battalion should come first :)
  80. 0
    April 23 2017 14: 01
    In eighth place is the Pakistan Special Forces, also known as the Black Storks.
    ---------------------------------Well, yes, yes.... Battle of the 4th company of the 149th motorized rifle regiment near the village of Cognac, motorized rifles against special forces? Victory went to the motorized riflemen...conscripts...there were also 3 operations. Or I'm wrong? I would put special forces 1.2 place Russia, Israel, 3-USA....
  81. +1
    April 23 2017 14: 49
    Well, who would doubt it!
  82. +1
    April 23 2017 14: 59
    Quote: voenkom21
    Well, who would doubt it!

    I was wrong, I agree. Estonian guys
  83. 0
    April 23 2017 15: 04
    First place Business Insider gave "Seals" USA. The soldiers of this unit have years of intense training, which have become even tougher after the September 11 attacks. As the newspaper notes, many modern special forces units are organized on the example of this particular unit.

    How many successful operations do they have? )))
  84. 0
    April 23 2017 18: 21
    Quote: Shelest2000
    First place Business Insider gave "Seals" USA. The soldiers of this unit have years of intense training, which have become even tougher after the September 11 attacks. As the newspaper notes, many modern special forces units are organized on the example of this particular unit.

    How many successful operations do they have? )))


    But you are in vain, in terms of provocations and clashing people and countries is quite normal. ..I worked in about the same place in 95...a truck driver came from Serbia...he brought beer...Well, we met, I asked an Orthodox Christian, he was baptized for approval, he was 5-7 years older than me, we started talking... smoked a cigarette... asked him about the war... He tells me, do you know how the war in Yugoslavia began? People enter a Croatian village on the border with Serbian villages, in Serbian clothes and with a Croatian dialect, and slaughter 4-5 houses of Croatian families, then people appear in a Serbian village, in Croatian clothes and with a Croatian dialect, and slaughter 4-5 Serbian families in the village .....and away we go....
  85. 0
    April 24 2017 06: 02
    Business Insider gave first place to the US Navy SEALs.
    May God grant our calf and wolf to catch.
  86. 0
    April 25 2017 10: 43
    Well, as always, they made me laugh... How can you compare units of different orientations... they would have dragged a construction battalion here...