Czech Republic upgrades Dana howitzers

According to the blog bmpd, 12 April this year, the Czech government has approved the issuance of the War Department contract worth 1,5 bln. CZK (about 60 million. Dollars.) Czech company Tatra Trucks, provides modernization 33 152-propelled howitzer Dana vz.77 wheeled chassis formula 8h8, in service with the army of the Czech Republic.

It is assumed that Tatra Trucks will upgrade the 33 chassis of Dana howitzers with their shipment in 2018-2020. The new version will receive the designation Dana M1M.

The Dana M1M modification was introduced in August 2016. It differs from the basic version of the new cabin with improved ergonomics and security, a new filtering unit, air conditioning and heating systems. The engine of the ACS Tatra T-930 will be upgraded in order to increase the resource, efficiency and improve compliance with modern environmental requirements. The machine will acquire a new semi-automatic Tatra-Norgren transmission, an auxiliary power unit, an all-round video camera system, new lighting equipment, a centralized tire pressure monitoring system and upgraded hydraulic drives.

Within the framework of separate tenders, SAUs must receive GPS navigation equipment and communication systems (they will be acquired in the USA), a new fire control system. The latter was developed by the Czech company Retia, which is part of the CSG. The work will be carried out by the Czechoslovak Group (CSG) - a recently created association of Czech and Slovak defense enterprises with the participation of the STV Group. The production site will be the former armored repair plant in Sternberk.

The Slovak companies MSM Martin and ZVS Nová Dubnica, in partnership with the Czech company Explosia, are expected to supply new 152-mm artillery ammunition, including high-explosive fragmentation projectile DN1CZ of improved aerodynamic shape with a bottom gas generator and a core charge element, and a core element, which is equipped with a bottom-hole gas generator and an effective aerodynamic shape with a bottom-line gas generator and a sill-type explosive charge generator and a core gas generator and a core gas generator and a core gas generator and a bottom-hole gas generator and a core gas generator and a core gas generator with a bottom gas generator and a core gas generator and a core gas generator and a ground gas generator DN740CZ. Its firing range from a Dana cannon is 25,5 km (the usual projectile is 18,7 km).

In addition, it is planned to allocate 2,5 billion kroner for the purchase abroad 2022 17 of modern self-propelled howitzers 155-mm / 52 with a firing range of up to 40 km and 2 billion kroons for the purchase of ammunition for them.

The Dana howitzer to be upgraded was developed based on the Tatra 815 running gear and was mass-produced by ZTS Dubnica (Slovakia) from 1981 to 1993. Altogether, along with experienced and pre-production samples, around 750 systems were released. 415 of them received the Czechoslovak People's Army, 120 - USSR Armed Forces, 111 - the Polish Army and 80 - Libya. Later, on its basis, ZTS Dubnica developed improved versions of Ondava (with 152-mm / 47 howitzer), Zuzana (with 155-mm / 45 howitzer) and Zuzana 2 (with 155-mm / 52 howitzer), of which only Zuzana was mass-produced (16 was supplied to the army of Slovakia and 12 to Cyprus).

Comments

[Old26]

Interesting. I heard that "Dana" was supplied to the USSR, but did not know that in such a significant amount

[210ox]

It seems like they were armed with one unit in the Tver (Kalinin) region ..

Quote: Old26

Interesting. I heard that "Dana" was supplied to the USSR, but did not know that in such a significant amount

[xetai9977]

Pretty interesting system. By the way, Czechs and Slovaks cleverly acted, did not share their defense plants. Rather, at first they divided it, and then they realized that cooperation promises certain benefits. So they fixed the error. Well done.

[210ox]

By the way, the article did not mention that these self-propelled guns were delivered to Georgia .. that did not help in 2008 .. Once again it shows that good weapons and a bad dancer are incompatible things ..

[210ox]

These self-propelled guns at one time even wanted to put into service with the Soviet Army ..

[Comrade Stalin]

And thank God that they did not. And then for the sake of the help of the "brother" Slavs there were how many cases that they cut their own models and ordered from the Poles, Czechs and Hungarians as part of the help of the CMEA.
I doubt that the wheeled chassis is generally suitable for such heavy weapons. Yes, as long as there is no war, you can beautifully roll it out. But in the war it’s also necessary to go to the muddy black soil.

[Reviews]

Quote: Comrade_Stalin

as long as there is no war, you can roll it out beautifully on it. But in the war it’s also necessary to go to the muddy black soil.

According to the wiki, the combat weight is 30t. A lot, or what, for 8x8? There we have KamAZ-6350 (8x8) has a mass of only a quarter less; the eyes of the KamAZ narrower wheels. Will it get stuck?

[Comrade Stalin]

With a full load of 22,6 tons, it will certainly stick. This maximum weight is only permissible on hard roads or on highways.

[ProkletyiPirat]

for dirt they give a tracked self-propelled guns, and the wheeled layout is ideal for local wars and special operations.

[Reviews]

Quote: Comrade_Stalin

With a full load of 22,6 tons, it will certainly stick. This maximum weight is only permissible on hard roads or on highways.

What nonsense is this? Who needs a four-wheel drive truck on a “hard surface”, and on the ground also half empty? And the fighters, therefore, the hardest kilometers (on the ground) to the enemy must trample on their own?

[Comrade Stalin]

Naturally. Even with WWII, wars shared the full payload on the highway, and payload off-road.

Truck ZIS-6. Payload: 4000 kg (on the highway), 2500 kg (on the ground)

[Reviews]

Quote: Comrade_Stalin

Naturally. Even with WWII, wars shared the full payload on the highway, and payload off-road.

Truck ZIS-6. Payload: 4000 kg (on the highway), 2500 kg (on the ground)

You would have referred to the Napoleonic ... :) In WWII there was a division into night and day squadrons. And then - to the "ordinary" fighters and all-weather. Returning to the cars, this suggests that the ZiS-6 was not all-wheel drive and 4-axle. And it is extremely doubtful that the ZiS was initially sharpened off-road: it has a load on power twice as high as that of the KamAZ-6350.

[Comrade Stalin]

Quote: Avis

And it is extremely doubtful that the ZiS will initially be sharpened off-road.

Are you seriously? Is it possible that in the mid-30s, roads were laid to all cities of the USSR? Not to mention the fact that these trucks worked on collective farms and served in the army.

[Reviews]

Quote: Comrade_Stalin

Are you seriously?

Absolutely. I have given arguments.
I didn’t say anything about the highway. The primer is also expensive, in general, if the tanks are not cut open year-round.
Exactly what was, and not what should ideally be, served in the army and farm.

[Comrade Stalin]

And what arguments did you bring?

Quote: Avis

The primer is also expensive, in general, if the tanks are not cut open year-round.

Well, actually, in our country there is spring thaw, there are summer and autumn rains, and winter snowfalls with blizzards sweeping the roads.

[Reviews]

Quote: Comrade_Stalin

And what arguments did you bring?

You have not been told the concepts of “wheeled f-la” and “load on power”?

Well, actually, in our country there is spring thaw, there are summer and autumn rains, and winter snowfalls with blizzards sweeping the roads.

... with which only caterpillar passenger cars and hovercraft are still managing?
But it was a different matter. Let me remind you - it’s not right to nod at a pre-war truck when talking about a modern vehicle. It was used on the ground not because it corresponded to it, but because he could walk at least somehow. With half payload. It is foolish to lay such parameters already during design. These are clearly the restrictions imposed on the finished machine when it was run on the ground. Nobody writes in the instructions to the “Poplars” that they can only walk along the highway with a rocket.

[cniza]

It differs from the basic version with a new cabin with improved ergonomics and security, a new filter and ventilation unit, air conditioning and heating systems.

NATO standard, no air conditioning ...

[xetai9977]

Should they be without air conditioning? So to say, "this is not our method?")))

[Reviews]

Quote: cniza

NATO standard, no air conditioning ...

This is the standard of any normal technique. Of course, you need to be able to "endure hardships and hardships", but specifically laying them in modern technology is a crime. Ergonomics, panimash ... :)

[Altona]

What names are beautiful. Dana, Zuzana. In the photo is the Czech model Zuzana Drabinova.

[Tolstoevsky]

this one will have a bigger caliber

[xetai9977]

Czechs are pretty beautiful! Sometimes I am in Prague. The soul rejoices)))

[The black]

Quote: xetai9977

Czechs are pretty beautiful! Sometimes I am in Prague. The soul rejoices)))

Only soul?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Altona

What names are beautiful. Dana zuzana

And we, as gentlemen, are ready to give them "Tulips", "Acacia", "Carnations", "Hyacinths", "Peonies" ...

[Nikolaevich I]

PS What names are beautiful. Dana, Zuzana ...... Nona, Vienna.

[Reviews]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

PS What names are beautiful. Dana, Zuzana ...... Nona, Vienna.

Either the Hustler business! :)

1) rogue 2) prostitute hustler 1) I work on the streets and in bars. I ain't nothing but a ... >> hustler [] 1) hasler, addict "on the job" "

[israelis]

Quote: Altona

In the photo is the Czech model Zuzana Drabinova.

Oh, I’ll tell an amateur. Here is the Czech erotic model Laura Lion. Much prettier.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: izrailnam

In the photo is the Czech model Zuzana Drabinova.
Oh, I’ll tell an amateur. Here is the Czech erotic model Laura Lion. Much prettier.

Eh hehe! And what, fix, the difference on whom to "sniff"?

[Tolstoevsky]

the very thing for the war with Slovakia

[gabonskijfront]

The Czech Republic historically, it was a workshop of Austria-Hungary, during the Second World War Czechs were considered an image of the Germanization of the Slavic population, labor productivity and production culture are higher than in Germany and more than one act of sabotage has occurred all the time. and paid, the British banged him.

[Vz.58]

Czechoslovakians banged him, though trained in Britain. If you go to Prague, then you know the beer "At parachutists" near the Orthodox Church on Resslovaya Street

[Reviews]

Quote: gabonskijfront

production culture is higher than in Germany and not one act of sabotage for all time

With the engines of the captured FW.200 (BMW132), our Polar Aviation suffered. 1948, A. Lebedev:

“Condor” Mikhail Alekseevich himself had received a reparation in Germany shortly before. In the Arctic, the car managed to fly in only ninety hours, and during this time there were sixteen engine failures. Mechanics tried to warm the oil system, tried to find out the causes of failures, but nothing helped.
According to Mikhail Alekseevich, even in Germany he drew attention to the very unreliable operation of the motors, even managed to insist on their replacement. But the Czechs, representatives of the manufacturer, having sorted through five engines, explained to Titlova that they did such poor-quality engines especially during the war for the Nazis - "they helped the Soviet people as much as they could." There really was nothing to choose from. Titles plane accepted. And then one by one the failures began ...

I understand the book of the times of CMEA and the “brotherhood of peoples”, but it seemed to me true.
In the end, from under the stick, you can also establish production. The same V-2. :(
True, on the Do-24 other BMWs worked fine. The only problem is that the gears from the “astronomical” bronze worked in the step control mechanism. But after replacing it with ours everything returned to normal again.
Including, everything was a little more difficult. :)

[A1845]

great car , can Czechs ..

[Altona]

Quote: izrailnam

Oh, I’ll tell an amateur. Here is the Czech erotic model Laura Lion. Much prettier.

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Well, Laura Lion, hmm, is not quite an erotic model, but a cinema actress for adults. I know these girls well, as I correspond with other similar "models": Katarina Hartlova (Dubrova for her husband), Angel Wicky, Luceile Love (this is Hungary). And from the photographs of Zuzana Drabinova, the most innocent was chosen and by the way it is precisely the erotic model.

[Altona]

Quote: gabonskijfront

The Czech Republic historically, it was a workshop of Austria-Hungary, during the Second World War the Czechs were considered an image of the Germanization of the Slavic population, labor productivity and production culture are higher than in Germany and not one act of sabotage for all time.

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Moreover, as it is always modestly silent, that in the invasion of the Wehrmacht in the USSR, Czech tanks and tank chassis for self-propelled guns were actively used, about 4-5 thousand as of June 22, 1941. Guderian was very pleased, capturing Czech arsenals and military plants.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Vz.58

when Comrade Stalin entered into an agreement with the partyigenoss (party comrade, party member) Hitler.

Spring came....

Quote: Vz.58

Czechoslovakians already fought against Nazi Germany in 1938. Both on earth and in the air.

... with her and aggravation ...

[Reviews]

Quote: stalkerwalker

by the ovary of the party, party member) Hitler

Inclined to agree:

party comrade, party member) Hitler

And below that he soaked:

trunks at 155 and at 152. And from both already able to both 35 km and 40 km.
we need new tracked infantry fighting vehicles and artillery systems
...
Do not ask me why we need this? Anyway not for attack. You say that army equipment is the engine of progress.

[Comrade Stalin]

Quote: Vz.58

And you are modestly silent that Czechoslovakians fought against Nazi Germany already in 1938. Both on earth and in the air.

Yes you are just a new Rezun . Or do you already in the Czech Republic so taught at school in history lessons. Actually, as we were taught, the Czechs raised their paws, your Benes cowardly signed a complete and unconditional surrender. Out of ALL Czech military personnel, only one pilot resisted, who hijacked a plane and flew to Romania, and then served in Britain. Apparently, this only pilot in your textbooks has become tens of thousands of Czech soldiers who fought against the Nazis on the ground and in the air. Moreover, Stalin tried to put together an anti-Hitler coalition, offered military assistance to the Czechs, but the proud Poles refused to let Soviet troops into the Czech Republic through their territory. But England and France refused to enter into an alliance with the USSR. You would not be dishonored by your liberal history. Lying so brazenly is not necessary.

Quote: Vz.58

And that was when Comrade Stalin concluded agreements with the partyigenoss (party comrade, party member) Hitler. In short, the mistakes of the then Soviet leadership did not bring to Czechoslovakia

But for this ban definitely. Equating the NSDAP with the CPSU (b), and accusing the USSR of the occupation of the Czech Republic by Hitler - this is a blatant conscious lie . Have you forgotten the Munich agreement already? AND?

[Vz.58]

In 1940, at the Battle of Britain, 92 Czechoslovak fighter pilots fought. I can also mention the numbers of Czechoslovak pilots of bomber and anti-submarine aircraft in Britain who fought before the end of the war. Dig yourself. Then they returned home, and they were sent to camps, they say fought against Hitler on the wrong side. Find the number of tankers and foot soldiers of Czechoslovakia, under the command of Montgomery in the African campaign. Have you forgotten Ludwik Freedom? Although not all of Liberty was Czechoslovak.
I get warnings for trolling, but don't you troll me?
Regarding the translation of some German words for which I received warnings, everything was translated correctly using Russian dictionaries and without comparing the German and Soviet parties, and I did not distort historical events. And received a warning.
Happy Birthday!
Not a troll

[Comrade Stalin]

You do not troll, you LIE!

And you are modestly silent that Czechoslovakians fought against Nazi Germany already in 1938. Both on earth and in the air.

Facts on the table, how the Czechs fought on land and in the air against Germany in 1938

And that was when Comrade Stalin concluded agreements with the partyigenoss (party comrade, party member) Hitler.

Facts on the table that Stalin was a member of the NSDAP, and Hitler was a member of the CPSU (b).

In short, the mistakes of the then Soviet leadership did not bring to Czechoslovakia

Facts on the table that Stalin was the reason for the occupation of the Czech Republic by Hitler and that Benes cowardly raised his paws.

[Ustin Umarov]

Has infected imbecile Russophobic delirium from Ukrainians or Maidan 68 presses on the brain?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Vz.58

when Comrade Stalin entered into an agreement with the partyigenoss (party comrade, party member) Hitler.

Quote: Avis

by the ovary of the party, party member) Hitler
Inclined to agree:
companion

Dear you, comrades, liberals, so to speak ...
Judging by your hysterical remarks, I allow myself to conclude, as yet not medical (but who knows ???), that you have very poor knowledge of History.
In your vile attempts to equate the USSR and Nazi Germany, between the SS and the NKVD, you only fit harmoniously into the ranks of Russian pseudo-liberal patriots, in which such vile personalities as Svanidze, Gozman, Akunin, Makarevich, Sytin and others with them. Note that among the above individuals there is not a single representative of other professions other than a spiritually creative intelligentsia. It is understandable - wagging your tongue, you don’t have to toss bags.
It’s very convenient to call the Munich agreement “agreement”, and the neutrality pact - “treacherous agreement”. But the basis of such a modern philosophy is not so much Russophobia, but so much the desire to look clean in one’s own eyes, shifting the blame from a sore head to healthy.
But I am not going to educate you in the details of the occupation of the Czech Republic in 1938, as well as discuss the reasons for the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. If you had a head on your shoulders, and not a hanger for hats, you would have already figured it out yourself. But you have no time. Your task is more important - it will retroactively discredit the leadership of the USSR and the ancestors who have laid down their heads on the battlefields of the Great Patriotic War.

[Reviews]

Quote: stalkerwalker

Quote: Vz.58

when Comrade Stalin entered into an agreement with the partyigenoss (party comrade, party member) Hitler.

Quote: Avis

by the ovary of the party, party member) Hitler
Inclined to agree:
companion

Dear you, comrades, liberals, so to speak ...
Judging by your hysterical remarks, I allow myself to conclude, as yet not medical (but who knows ???), that you have very poor knowledge of History.

Fuck ... Some Mr. has a problem with understanding the text, so instead of asking again, he immediately throws himself at its main content.
Well, you and ...

(Just in case, “Mr.” is an abbreviation of “Mr.”, and not what this Mr. thought to himself).

[Vz.58]

And now back to the topic "The Czech Republic is modernizing the Dana howitzers". Not everything is as smooth in life as in the article. There are trunks at 155 and at 152. And from both we are already able to both 35 km and 40 km. There is a discussion. Different interests, different pockets. Yes, we know how to do EVERYTHING, but which of us will do it, here is the monetary question. Now we think we need new tracked infantry fighting vehicles and artillery systems on any chassis. Older unused Dana can sell. Maybe we will make a new system on the Tatra. There is progress. At one time, the BMP decided, but then the Poles intervened with their proposals and all over again.

Do not ask me why we need this? In any case, not for attack. You say that army equipment is the engine of progress.

[Reviews]

Quote: Vz.58

You say that army equipment is the engine of progress.

Brad.
In the best case, one of the catalysts, and even then not the main one.

[Vz.58]

I can only agree

[Altona]

Quote: Vz.58

And you are modestly silent that Czechoslovakians fought against Nazi Germany already in 1938. Both on earth and in the air. And in the battle for Britain, Czechoslovak pilots played an important role. And that was when Comrade Stalin concluded agreements with the partyigenoss (party comrade, party member) Hitler. In short, the mistakes of the then Soviet leadership did not bring to Czechoslovakia

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