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Serbia plans to buy two divisions of the C-300 air defense system

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Serbian Prime Minister Alexander Vucic announced his intention to purchase two divisions of the S-300 air defense system and the regimental command post, reports RIA News.

Serbia plans to buy two divisions of the C-300 air defense system


According to Vucic, he personally talked about this issue with Vladimir Putin and the head of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko.

There is no agreement for C-300. I mentioned this at the talks with President Putin, and we talked about it. I talked about this with President Lukashenko,
told reporters the Serbian leader.

In January of this year, Serbian Defense Minister Zoran Djordjevic reported on planned talks with Minsk on C-300. As for talks on this topic with Moscow, no official information was received.

We have no agreement on this. But for us it would be important to have two divisions and one regimental command post. It would be for us a solution for many years to come.
said Vucic.

Responding to a request from journalists to comment on information from Croatian media about alleged deliveries of Russian C-300 to Croatia in 1990-s, Vucic noted that he did not have such information. He also recalled that Moscow officially denied these reports.

We have no information that Croatia has a C-300. In general, this can not be hidden, this is not a needle,
added on.
Photos used:
RIA News. Pavel Lisitsyn
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  1. Lostcoast
    Lostcoast April 16 2017 15: 44
    +7
    Recently, Lukashenka was delivered free to C-300, for an ally. And he turns them out for sale ...
    1. Vladimir 38
      Vladimir 38 April 16 2017 15: 54
      +12
      Potato dad is still that ally, but Serbs can be gifted
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 April 16 2017 16: 02
        +1
        Two divisions - how many missiles?
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 April 17 2017 01: 09
          0
          Quote: Shurik70
          Two divisions - how many missiles?

          2 to 12 = 24 launchers of 4 rockets = 96 missiles in a salvo ...
          By the way, the Serbs studied in Smolensk ... so the C300V
      2. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr April 16 2017 16: 05
        +1
        Why do the Serbs S-300? They are not joining Geyropu? Nobody will attack them there. If only half-naked girls from the Femen group.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox April 16 2017 16: 41
          +1
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Why do the Serbs S-300? They are not joining Geyropu?

          And what does the S-300 have to do with joining the EU? Now, if the Serbs entered NATO, then these air defense systems would be an obstacle (everyone who joins NATO is forced to rearm with Western weapons. Only the Serbs are not going to join NATO, they very firmly stated this ...
          Only the frivolity is alarming: the S-300s themselves also require protection, and the Buk-M and Tor-M2 are also required in the amount five times the number of divisions for the effectiveness of such protection. Of course, you can use a dozen Shells, but it’s not suitable for system networking
          1. Olegovi4
            Olegovi4 April 16 2017 18: 25
            +1
            Quote: hydrox
            Buk-M "and Tor-M2 are also required in about five times the quantity of divisions

            this will be the next thing that they will start to ASK (rather than buy).
          2. kapitan92
            kapitan92 April 16 2017 21: 23
            +5
            Quote: hydrox
            The S-300s themselves also require protection, and Buk-M and Tor-M2 are also required for the effectiveness of such protection.

            The question apparently arose about the layered air defense of the country! Considering the area of ​​Serbia, installations of the C300 type are necessary, then installations of medium and short range.
            All right!
          3. PSih2097
            PSih2097 April 17 2017 01: 14
            0
            Quote: hydrox
            and for the effectiveness of such protection, Buk-M "and Tor-M2 are also required in about five times the quantity of divisions.

            what fivefold, we (in CA / RA) have a battery cover for the division at best.
            you can get by the Tunguska ... but for an effective layered air defense - there is a triplex - S300V - Buk - Tor, Tunguska, Strela - MANPADS
      3. hirurg
        hirurg April 16 2017 16: 09
        +2
        Serbia’s desire to purchase S-300 is understandable. And it seems to me it is in our interests. Why not integrate them into our air defense sphere (with limitations of course)
        Another thing is who will put them and for what. This is already a matter of negotiation.
      4. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer April 16 2017 16: 12
        +13
        What they just do not dig out on the Belarusian fields with potatoes. And shrimp and salmon. Now here is C-300. Just a wonderland.
        1. Vladimir 38
          Vladimir 38 April 16 2017 16: 18
          +6
          )) That's for sure. Things are wonderful in the state of Belarus)) Like the president, also wonderful)
      5. Conductor
        Conductor April 17 2017 10: 51
        0
        Why give the Serbs? And in general, these practices are good to give, like they stopped. Although all debts attributed.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv April 16 2017 16: 32
      +2
      Quote: LostCoast
      Recently, Lukashenko was delivered free then S-300, for an ally

      Not free then, but as part of a clear sky over the CSTO. And so the S-300, which Belarus owns. These are the first S-300s. 75 km in length. That is about anything. NATO for breakfast
      1. Pirogov
        Pirogov April 16 2017 16: 50
        +1
        Quote: Tusv
        Not free then, but as part of a clear sky over the CSTO. And so the S-300, which Belarus owns. These are the first S-300s. 75 km in length. That is about anything. NATO for breakfast

        And yet, with 300, it’s better than they have, as they say for lack of stamp we write on what is.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv April 16 2017 16: 59
          +2
          Quote: Pirogov
          And yet, with 300, it’s better than they have, as they say for lack of stamp we write on what is.

          Yeah. Five Harmas and there is no air defense division, they won’t even have time to get scared. Less than 120 cannot be shipped. Because it's a shame
          1. Pirogov
            Pirogov April 16 2017 17: 31
            +1
            Quote: Tusv
            Yeah. Five Harmas and there is no air defense division, they won’t even have time to get scared. Less than 120 cannot be shipped. Because it's a shame

            And who will pay, this banquet of 120 divisions, and not a lot, for Serbia?
            1. Tusv
              Tusv April 16 2017 18: 00
              +1
              Quote: Pirogov
              And who will pay, this banquet of 120 divisions, and not a lot, for Serbia?

              120 km is the smallest defeat zone of the modern medium air defense complex
              1. Pirogov
                Pirogov April 16 2017 18: 14
                0
                Quote: Tusv
                120 km is the smallest defeat zone of the modern medium air defense complex

                You express your thoughts more clearly, otherwise you wrote 120, and guess what you want.
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv April 16 2017 19: 26
                  +2
                  Quote: Pirogov
                  You express your thoughts more clearly

                  I think that in such topics are all air defense workers. You see, while you say one hundred and twenty kilometers, the division will be destroyed 5 times hi
          2. Phoenix_L'vov
            Phoenix_L'vov April 16 2017 18: 14
            0
            You exaggerate the possibilities of the “Haarms” somewhat, the more so the countermeasures against them have been developed a long time ago.
          3. Olegovi4
            Olegovi4 April 16 2017 18: 29
            +2
            Quote: Tusv
            Five Harmas and there is no air defense division, they won’t even have time to get scared. Less than 120 can not be delivered

            Serbia in the NATO ring. the whole country is being shot there from all sides. if there is a salvo of our missiles, then once. then they will find and destroy. so 75 or 120, not much it will help them.
      2. commbatant
        commbatant April 16 2017 17: 40
        +1
        Tusv

        Not free then, but as part of a clear sky over the CSTO.


        "Wonderful" things are broadcasting. The first batch of S-300 divisions was delivered to the Russian Federation in the Republic of Belarus on a barter basis for the delivery of a chassis for the Topol to the Russian Federation (if you open the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, Part 2, you will find out that the Exchange Agreement is chargeable), respectively, is no longer a freebie.
        The last 4 S-300 divisions were delivered really, as you say for free from the storage depots of the RF Armed Forces, such a freebie also broke off to comrades from the Republic of Kazakhstan, and as someone from the Kazakhs told me here, they were supplied for rent, whether Baikonur, either polygons ....

        This is the first S-300. 75 km in length.
        indeed, but before delivery they went through modernization and are armed with newer air defense systems ... (accordingly, the Russian Federation incurred costs and this is no longer a freebie) ...

        That is about anything. NATO for breakfast
        however, no one is stopping the poor “orphans” from the Republic of Belarus to lease the Patriot air defense missile systems, or from comrades from Israel (I think they will infiltrate you, in the end you can organize barter again, Israel air defense missile systems, RB shrimp, lobsters) ... .
        1. Tusv
          Tusv April 16 2017 17: 44
          +1
          Quote: commbatant
          "Wonderful" things are broadcasting.

          You do not refute my post, but supplement
          1. commbatant
            commbatant April 16 2017 17: 50
            +1
            Quote: Tusv
            Quote: commbatant
            "Wonderful" things are broadcasting.

            You do not refute my post, but supplement


            Not at all. Let's say I supplement the part (that they’ve set crap), and I refute the part (that I’ve set crap not for free) ....
            1. Tusv
              Tusv April 16 2017 17: 56
              0
              Quote: commbatant
              Let's say I supplement the part (that the crap was put)

              In Belarus delivered crap ?. Did I say that? Read carefully. Okay, I’ll say more specifically in Belarus put the S-300 steeper PMU2
              1. commbatant
                commbatant April 16 2017 18: 36
                +2
                Quote: Tusv
                Quote: commbatant
                Let's say I supplement the part (that the crap was put)

                In Belarus delivered crap ?. Did I say that? Read carefully. Okay, I’ll say more specifically in Belarus put the S-300 steeper PMU2


                Only the S-300PS (1983) are in service with the Air Force and Air Defense of the Republic of Belarus (S), there are no other S-300 systems (except for the military S-300V) in the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus.
                Only S-300PS were delivered to you
                http://naviny.by/rubrics/society/2006/11/01/ic_ne
                ws_116_261406
                http://belarmy.by/novosti/lukashenko-mne-kak-glav
                nokomanduyushhemu-segodnya-ne-xvataet-dva-desyatk
                a-modernnyx-samoletov
                But the Air Force and Air Defense of the Republic of Belarus already have the first S-400
                https://rns.online/military/Rossiya-postavila-Bel
                orussii-dve-zenitnih-raketnih-sistemi-S-400-2016-
                06-28 /
                https://riafan.ru/532810-moskva-otblagodarila-min
                sk-za-besplatnuyu-arendu-zemli-sistemami-s-400
                The delivery was carried out in the framework of barter due to the lease of land for Russian radars

                What did you mention the S-300 PMU2 for? You do not have it in service and never was ....
              2. commbatant
                commbatant April 16 2017 19: 17
                +1
                Quote: Tusv
                Quote: commbatant
                Let's say I supplement the part (that the crap was put)

                In Belarus delivered crap ?. Did I say that? Read carefully. Okay, I’ll say more specifically in Belarus put the S-300 steeper PMU2


                That rare case when the Russian Federation was able to get someone crap (without paying real money) for "barter" for the place of a normal product (chassis of rocket carriers). The boiled RB crap in the Russian Federation in warehouses ...

                Now KAMAZ will start making its missile carriers in exchange for the MZKT, we will sell this crap to you or will go to lease land under the radar ...
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv April 16 2017 19: 30
                  0
                  Quote: commbatant
                  from a rare case when the Russian Federation was able to vparit someone crap

                  What you are telling here, it went to Belarus after the collapse of the Union. Several divisions delivered in 2013 have no relation to the above
                  1. commbatant
                    commbatant April 16 2017 19: 40
                    +2
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Quote: commbatant
                    from a rare case when the Russian Federation was able to vparit someone crap

                    What you are telling here, it went to Belarus after the collapse of the Union. Several divisions delivered in 2013 have no relation to the above


                    It has, with the divorced Union you got C-300PS and S-300V, RF supplied you ONLY C-300PS (no other S-300 complexes of the Russian Federation have ever been delivered to you and other varieties of the S-300, except for the ones mentioned in the Republic of Belarus and never have been) ....
          2. Tusv
            Tusv April 16 2017 17: 50
            +2
            Quote: commbatant
            (I think they will penetrate you

            The fact that I am a Jew by mother does not prevent me from being Russian.
            1. commbatant
              commbatant April 16 2017 17: 59
              +1
              Quote: Tusv
              Quote: commbatant
              (I think they will penetrate you

              The fact that I am a Jew by mother does not prevent me from being Russian.


              А I didn’t know that you are a JewI mentioned Israel because they do good air defense / missile defense systems .....
              1. Tusv
                Tusv April 16 2017 18: 13
                +2
                Quote: commbatant
                I mentioned Israel, because they do good air defense / missile defense systems .....

                Well, I’m so spoiling in a rag. Good ones. Against who. From the Scuds, from the Grads launched from the shiver. Super duper fancy Barack -8 loses Rocket Shell. 970 km per hour versus 1200. So far they have only learned systemicity from us
                1. commbatant
                  commbatant April 16 2017 18: 40
                  0
                  Tusv

                  Well, I’m so spoiling in a rag.

                  Your right, look further, to what it was written again, it’s not clear to me, I don’t give a damn about Russian or Jewish, and I didn’t write that Israeli ZRKs are better than Russian ones, you yourself have thought up (the roots affect) ....
            2. Cat man null
              Cat man null April 16 2017 18: 31
              +2
              Quote: Tusv
              The fact that I am a Jewish mother does not prevent me from being Russian

              - in order of joke: there is a wave-particle duality laughing
              - because according to the concepts of the Jews you are still a Jew wink

              No offense, nothing personal yes
              1. Tusv
                Tusv April 16 2017 19: 36
                +1
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                because according to the concepts of the Jews you are still a Jew

                According to the concepts of the Jews, I am still Russian. Because I don’t recognize their blessed Aliyah
    3. Bongo
      Bongo April 17 2017 05: 35
      +2
      Quote: LostCoast
      Recently, Lukashenka was delivered free to C-300, for an ally. And he turns them out for sale ...

      The S-300PS recently delivered to Belarus recently at no cost were built in the USSR and served in our air defense for more than 25 years. The production of SAM for them is completed, and the anti-aircraft systems themselves have a residual life of 5-7 years. As for the supply of S-300 air defense systems to Serbia, this is surprising. Currently, the construction of С-300П of all modifications is completed; С-400 is assembled at these facilities. Again, we can only talk about the supply of C-300P from the presence of the Russian Aerospace Forces or the modernized C-300В4. But the C-300В4 is an anti-missile missile system, inferior in terms of fire performance to the С-300П / С-400.
  2. vanavatny
    vanavatny April 16 2017 15: 45
    +3
    I misunderstood a little: Alexander Grigoryevich will push on a similar 2 of 4 divisions donated by Russia? laughingat least send a share, you are our sly ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 16 2017 15: 50
      +4
      Quote: LostCoast
      Recently, Lukashenka was delivered free to C-300, for an ally. And he turns them out for sale ...

      Quote: vanavate
      I misunderstood a little: Alexander Grigoryevich will push on a similar 2 of 4 divisions donated by Russia?

      And here we need to understand it well, it is quite possible that we are defending “these supplies from“ sanctions. ”In Belarus, now not only shrimp and salmon, but also“ S-300s ”of their own have appeared.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 16 2017 15: 52
      +5
      They, in fact, in the 99th had to be delivered. And now why?
      1. MPK105
        MPK105 April 16 2017 16: 04
        +3
        Better late than never... hi But, as far as I understand from the text of the article, nobody sold the S-300 to Serbia ... Neither Putin nor Lukashenko ... "There is no agreement on the S-300. I mentioned this in negotiations with President Putin, and we talked I talked about this with President Lukashenko, "Alas, ah ...
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS April 16 2017 18: 42
          +4
          Quote: MPK105
          But, as I understand from the text of the article, no one has sold the S-300 to Serbia ... Neither Putin nor Lukashenko ... "There is no agreement on the S-300.

          I believe that such an agreement, and not only with the Serbs, will appear immediately after the adoption of the S-350 ... then, in the process of replacing the S-300 with Vityazey, the export of Favorites will increase and I think it will be significant.
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik April 16 2017 16: 01
      +3
      Damn, Grygorievich besides being an official supplier of seafood to Russia, is he also an official S-300 dealer around the world? So as not to break the rule: They don’t give the gift, but the father sells the gift, but sharp-witted! negative
      1. Wiskar
        Wiskar April 16 2017 16: 27
        +3
        Quote: Major Yurik
        rule: They don’t give the gift, father sells the gift, but sharp!


        Belarus cannot sell such weapons without Russia's consent. Therefore, until Putin says yes, Lukashenko will not be able to do anything. Therefore, in the end, it all depends on Putin’s decision.
      2. Tusv
        Tusv April 16 2017 16: 40
        0
        Quote: Major Yurik
        also an official S-300 dealer worldwide?

        Did you try to turn on the brain? Old Man didn’t let him destroy the over-the-horizon radar, And I had the sanctions on better than ours. From which tag Old Man will sell the modern S-300? I repeat. Not those that he owns, but to protect the Eurasian. After all, they didn’t even put PMU 2 there
        1. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik April 16 2017 16: 57
          +1
          Uncle tusv, your sparkling on brain needs to be paused! In exchange, it would be good to include upbringing, if it was of course laid down to you in childhood, although ......! hi
          1. Tusv
            Tusv April 16 2017 17: 08
            +2
            Quote: Major Yurik
            Uncle tusv, your sparkling on brain needs to be paused! In exchange, it would be good to include education, if it was, of course, laid

            Tell me, what is your brain if you broadcast all sorts of nonsense? "Belarus is the main supplier of s-300" You blurted out stupidity, I confirmed that you really froze nonsense. What is the problem? hi
            1. Major Yurik
              Major Yurik April 16 2017 18: 53
              +1
              What is the problem? hi


              Slowly and a second time I will repeat: -The problem is in your upbringing, or rather, in its absence! Your opinion is immutable only for you! I'm afraid to upset you, but other people can have their opinions, and it is upbringing that allows you to listen to them without tram rudeness! Yours faithfully! hi
      3. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 16 2017 17: 47
        0
        It’s one thing if Father Butka sells or gives back -This is one stink from the west And if Russia is a stink of a different plan, repeatedly strengthened from the same west! Fershtein, niht fershtein? That's why father is needed!
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 16 2017 15: 57
    +1
    However! But by any means, good air defense will not hurt the Serbs. With the fear of ANY losses, especially the expensive aircraft that the Yankees and other NATO members show, the mere presence of the S-300 can affect.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox April 16 2017 17: 05
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      However! But by any means, good air defense will not hurt the Serbs. With the fear of ANY losses, especially the expensive aircraft that the Yankees and other NATO members show, the mere presence of the S-300 can affect.

      If the Serbs are attacked by Axes, then the S-300 will be very ineffective and costly protection, they will not be enough for a long time, and they themselves must be protected from the Axes, and for this, Buki and Torah are needed. And since Serbia is a mountainous country, the S-300 will not save the country from Axes ...
      1. Tusv
        Tusv April 16 2017 17: 32
        0
        Quote: hydrox
        If the Serbs are attacked with Axes,

        S-300s are different. Everything is known about NATO PMU1. Combined attack with harmas and axes and FSE. Five minutes
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 16 2017 17: 59
          +1
          Combined attack with harmas and axes and FSE. Five minutes
          They can and faster. They won, how “axes” taught to fly ... “by flock”, here are seven pieces, but how many of them are displayed on the screen and how many are preparing to reflect?
          1. Tusv
            Tusv April 16 2017 18: 21
            0
            Quote: svp67
            here are seven pieces, but how many of them are displayed on the screen and how many are preparing to reflect?

            We have been taught this. By the way. It is only in Jewish videos that 4 mirages in a square are displayed as one. Lies is not professional
          2. Olegovi4
            Olegovi4 April 16 2017 18: 35
            0
            Quote: svp67
            "axes" taught to fly ... "flock", here are seven pieces,

            I’m not a felvar, but I’m very interested. If this flock gets in the way of Tunkuska / Shell, will they break through it? those. can the radar of our systems have time to "hook" hatchets and ground them?
            1. svp67
              svp67 April 16 2017 18: 52
              0
              Quote: Olegovi4
              but it’s a lot more interesting to me. if at this flock on the way will Tunkuska / Shell go, will they break through it?

              But in general, they try to open the location of air defense systems ahead of time, so that they could create a bypass route for the KR flight.
  4. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz April 16 2017 16: 11
    0
    Belarus sells S-300 recourse

    Russia has already given Serbia both tanks and fighters.
    1. aleksfill
      aleksfill April 16 2017 16: 15
      +1
      And Israel for carrots and strawberries grown in chemistry, hydroponics,
      What does Russia send through the Garant - a sportsman?
      1. Rabinowicz
        Rabinowicz April 16 2017 16: 24
        +2
        I do not understand where Israel and strawberries with carrots.
        Yes, it seems that we don’t have chemistry in strawberries, as far as I read. And what's wrong with hydroponics?
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 16 2017 16: 18
      +2
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Russia has already given Serbia both tanks and fighters.

      Which, comrade Rabinovich? MiG 23, I remember, set, but as the West found out about this, they returned it back.
      1. Rabinowicz
        Rabinowicz April 16 2017 16: 21
        +1
        I don’t know for sure, I found an article in the search among the first ones.

        "Six MiG-29 fighters and dozens of armored vehicles"
        "Russia presented Serbia with 30 T-72S tanks and 30 BRDM-2 armored vehicles armed with heavy machine guns of the Vladimirov caliber of 14,5 mm."
        "thanks to the help of the Russian side, Serbia will receive a powerful squadron of 10 MiGs."

        http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2836030
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 16 2017 16: 24
          +2
          Ah, you are about Serbia. I’m sorry. I actually talked about Yugoslavia. hi
    3. commbatant
      commbatant April 16 2017 16: 58
      0

      0
      Rabinowicz

      Russia has already given Serbia and tanks


      Fear God Rabinovich (anyway which one), which tanks are the T-34 or T-54/55 under B. Titus?
      T-72 licensed in Yugoslavia has always been produced
      https://topwar.ru/29572-osnovnoy-tank-t-72-zarube
      zhnye-modifikacii.html

      Although things are going really badly in the military-industrial complex and armed forces of Serbia (financially), they are gradually recovering at the expense and with the assistance of the Russian Federation
      http://www.militaryparitet.com/ttp/data/ic_ttp/29
      82 /
      https://vpk.name/news/178954_mvd_serbii_poluchilo
      _bronetransporteryi_lazar_3.html
      http://yablor.ru/blogs/serbiya-demonstriruet-tehn
      ologiches / 4473271
    4. commbatant
      commbatant April 16 2017 17: 14
      0
      Rabinovich Today, 16:11
      Belarus sells S-300 recourse


      In January 2017, the Minister of Defense of Serbia Zoran Djordjevic stated that negotiations on the purchase of the S-300 are supposed to be conducted with Belarus
      http://warfiles.ru/show-149646-opyt-belgrada-serb
      iya-sobralas-priobresti-u-rossii-dva-diviziona-s-
      300.html

      And you’ll talk well with the “Old Man”, maybe he will sell you the Iskanders, not right away, of course, first you’ll have to buy a dozen modernized S-125 Pechora air defense systems
  5. Vitas
    Vitas April 16 2017 16: 20
    +1
    To protect the 300-k, you need something near range. Maybe they will ask the Tunguska or the Carapace, as the Belarusians put the Stiletto
  6. ALLxANDr
    ALLxANDr April 16 2017 16: 54
    0
    C300 and C400 eventually become more and more a synonym - a peaceful sky above your head.
    Countries of the old world do not offer special options!
  7. GSVG 86-88
    GSVG 86-88 April 16 2017 16: 55
    +1
    I think these complexes will be delivered to the Serbs many times faster than Iran.
  8. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 16 2017 16: 59
    +1
    Again, “plans” .... All “fake” “news” “nothing” begins with this and her similar “magic” phrases: “... plans”, “is going to”, “will be”, “is being prepared”, etc. "
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket April 16 2017 17: 17
      0
      Quote: vanavate
      Will Alexander Grigorievich push in a similar 2 out of 4 divisions donated by Russia?

      Half of these Belarusian S-300 air defense systems were already replaced that year with the S-400 air defense system and are in reserve (conservation) so that he can easily transfer them for sale or give them away.
      Russia supplied Belarus with two S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems
      Russia has supplied Belarus with two C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, told the head of the expert council of the Duma defense committee Boris Usvyatsov to journalists.

      “We delivered two Triumph complexes (S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile system. - RNS) at no cost,” Usvyatsov said.
      In turn, he noted, Belarus does not require rent for a missile attack warning radar station located on its territory, in Baranovichi.
      http://belvpo-com.mirtesen.ru/blog/43340506464/Ro
      ssiya-postavila-Belarusi-dve-zenitnyih-raketnyih-
      sistemyi-s-40
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket April 16 2017 17: 48
        0
        A Serbian attempt to make a short-range self-propelled ZRAK to cover military equipment and various objects. Apparently inspired by our ZRAK Shell.
        ZRAK PASARS-16 "Terminator" with 40 mm "Bofors" and anti-aircraft missiles RLN-IC

        1. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 April 16 2017 18: 39
          0
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Terminator

          more like a hippo. Thanks for the info. I’ll look for the performance characteristics of the unit.
      2. zyablik.olga
        zyablik.olga April 18 2017 15: 14
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        Quote: quilted jacket
        Russia has supplied Belarus with two C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, told the head of the expert council of the Duma defense committee Boris Usvyatsov to journalists.

        Probably with a hangover when it was stated, or spring exacerbation. There are no confirmations in other sources of statements by the “head of the expert council of the State Duma Committee”.
  9. Wolka
    Wolka April 16 2017 17: 14
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    Serbia is our land carrier in Europe and air defense will not hinder him
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 16 2017 17: 58
      +2
      Serbia is another country that wants to solve all its problems at the expense of Russia, without ceasing to lick the ass of the European Union. Are there still those whom the story with kakly and "little brothers" taught nothing?
  10. smart fellow
    smart fellow April 16 2017 18: 01
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    Armament (MiG-29, armored vehicles, air defense systems) of Serbia is needed for the war with Kosovo Albanians and Croats. Against NATO, even the S-400 and S-500 will not help, except perhaps the “Poplars” and “Yars”.
  11. garnik
    garnik April 16 2017 19: 02
    +1
    We need a full-fledged Russian base on the territory of Serbia, and then you can give something for free. This would be a response to NATO’s eastward expansion. In any case, you need to help the Serbs. Or they will be forced to enter into alliances with NATO members.
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  13. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 17 2017 15: 27
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    The Greek version of C-300 is quite possible to sell ...
    1. Bongo
      Bongo April 18 2017 07: 50
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      The Greek version of C-300 is quite possible to sell ...

      They have not been built for a long time. No.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 18 2017 07: 54
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        Armed with the old systems are. when replacing with C-400, overhaul and forward.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo April 18 2017 14: 14
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          Quote: Zaurbek
          Armed with the old systems are. when replacing with C-400, overhaul and forward.

          This cannon can stand for 40 years, in storage and after restoration repair it can be used to calmly fire.
          Modern air defense equipment is much more complex and delicate products. Have you ever wondered what element base C-300PS were built on and where to get boards that have not been produced for 20 years already? Of course, you can use a modern (often foreign) element base, but the amount of work is often such that it is easier to build a new anti-aircraft system from scratch. Have you heard anything about a cardinal modernization (not to be confused with refurbishment) S-300PS air defense system? No. In addition, ask when the production of 5B55Р / 5В55РМ missiles is stopped (others are not used at С-300ПТ / ПС) and what is the warranty period for missiles.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek April 18 2017 14: 16
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            And the C-300 complexes, which are now in service, how are they serviced? And what missiles are they firing?
            1. Bongo
              Bongo April 18 2017 14: 19
              +1
              Quote: Zaurbek
              And the C-300 complexes, which are now in service, how are they serviced? And what missiles are they firing?

              You are asking about what kind of modification of the air defense system, for me when they write "C-300" - a sign of bad taste. This is about the same as writing a “car” about a racing car.
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek April 18 2017 14: 24
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                S-300PS, S-300PMU with
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo April 18 2017 14: 34
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                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  S-300PS, S-300PMU with

                  S-300PS air defense systems are becoming a thing of the past due to critical wear and tear and lack of air-conditioned missiles.
                  С-300ПМУ is an export modification of С-300ПС.
                  I don’t know if you read this, but there are answers to some of your questions:
                  The current state of the air defense of the countries of the former Soviet Union republics. Part 10

                  ZRS-300P in the XXI century (clickable)
  14. Vladimir Matveyev
    Vladimir Matveyev April 17 2017 20: 59
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    The Serbs will not need any means of air defense if they donate land for our base.)))
    1. commbatant
      commbatant April 18 2017 07: 53
      +1
      Any of our bases in Serbia (as in the PMR and Armenia) is a prison camp in the event of war .... These bases would make sense if Serbia had access to the Adriatic, after Montenegro left the FRY, Serbia lost its strategic value .. .
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      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 18 2017 14: 18
        +1
        I do not agree with the PMR and Armenia; the distance to them is not large. And on the account of Serbia I agree. Maximum-electronic intelligence station can be put.
        1. commbatant
          commbatant April 18 2017 14: 25
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          Zaurbek Today, 14: 18 ↑
          I do not agree with the PMR and Armenia; the distance to them is not large.


          Why do not agree? They are all in the enclave of hostile states, how will we get there, if what? How will we supply or evacuate our bases in Transdniestria and Armenia?
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek April 18 2017 14: 33
            +1
            Yes, if you recall, the USA and Israel went around Iran and wanted to strike? Ours announced that in the event of aggression, a land corridor through Georgia would be occupied ... there are no natural and military barriers to this. With PMR, it’s more difficult, but you need to invest in the federalization or collapse of Ukraine and provide access to PMR. All this is quite real and Armenia and the PMR will be very valuable in terms of our defense.
            1. commbatant
              commbatant April 18 2017 14: 48
              +2
              there are no natural or military barriers for this.


              That is, do you think nobody will prevent the advance of our troops across the territory of Georgia and Azerbaijan towards the Persians? I would not particularly count on this when placing our bases outside our country ....

              In the PMR, there at least a large percentage of local people serve in our units ...
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek April 18 2017 15: 14
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                Well, if you look at the map and delve into History, then theoretically Turkey can interfere, but not much.
                1. commbatant
                  commbatant April 18 2017 15: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  Well, if you look at the map

                  then we will not see a common border between the Russian Federation and Armenia

                  then theoretically Turkey can interfere, but not much.


                  It is solely on Turkey (having the 2nd largest armed forces among NATO countries) that depends on whether or not to prevent ... I would not particularly count on Turkey's favor, given that when passing through Azerbaijan you will try not to notice its armed forces ....
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek April 18 2017 15: 26
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                    It is true, only in Armenia and in the Krasnodar Territory we have very powerful Air Force and Air Defense, and Iskander and Tochka-u complexes, which will deprive the Turkish Air Force of the ability to fly from two sides. and cover the passage of our troops. The Roh tunnel under our control, the same railway line through Abkhazia. The control of shipping in the Black Sea is the same. When passing through Azerbaijan, the main force is Iran ....
                    1. commbatant
                      commbatant April 18 2017 16: 19
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                      only here in Armenia and in the Krasnodar Territory are very powerful Air Force and Air Defense


                      Compared with whom, with Georgia and Azerbaijan, or maybe Turkey (having an infinite opportunity to increase their numbers at the expense of other NATO countries)?

                      complexes Iskander and Tochka

                      They will not do 480 and 120 km in terms of firing range and weather (unless of course they are equipped with warheads with nuclear weapons), which is probably why the Russian Federation put the Iskanders of Armenia in order to somehow strengthen the Armenian Armed Forces ....

                      and cover the passage of our troops.
                      Compare the combat power of the 58th and 49th South Ossetian Military District with the 3rd and 2nd PA of the Turkish Northeast (which can be strengthened by the 1st PA and the Aegean PA, the 11th AK from the island of Cyprus, they are unlikely to transfer) ..

                      The control of shipping in the Black Sea is the same.
                      KChF of the Russian Federation is concentrated in two naval bases and is going through the stage of "recovery" after the post-Soviet mess .....

                      When passing through Azerbaijan, the main force is Iran ....

                      IRI our showdown with the Turks and Azeri did not rest at all, and the Azerbaijanis just will not look at our conflict with Turkey or free passage through their territory .....
                      so the passage to Armenia comes out, it can only be through South Ossetia (while constantly praying that no one will damage the Roki Tunnel), however, when parts of the 58th OA pass through, Georgian and Azerbaijani armed forces will operate on its flanks ... reinforced by advisers (in parts ) from NATO ....

                      Okay, this is all a fortune-telling, but not a single country in the world has military bases in overseas territories under the same conditions as ours in Armenia or the PMR ....

                      I will say more, the formations and units located in the Kaliningrad defensive region and on the Kuril Islands (with a stretch) are in the same conditions ....
                    2. Vladimir Matveyev
                      Vladimir Matveyev 28 May 2017 20: 07
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                      Gauges will pave any corridor everywhere.