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A meeting was held in the Kremlin of Vladimir Putin, Sergey Lavrov and US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. In the opinion of US President Trump, relations between Washington and Moscow are at the lowest level ever. history diplomatic relations of the two states.


I, I, Kemskaya parish!


During his visit to Moscow, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson met with Vladimir Putin and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Western politicians and media describe both meetings as cold and even ice. President Trump also does not regret the cold paints.

This is not surprising: the parties did not agree on key issues. The lifting of sanctions wasn’t even mentioned, but the sides seriously disagreed on acute Syrian issues.

According to the US Secretary of State, the Syrian President Assad should resign from power. "The result does not provide for the role of Assad in Syria's state administration," Tillerson said. "BBC". Mr. Tillerson admits that Assad’s departure may occur in an “organized way.”

According to Sergey Lavrov, Russia in Syria does not rely on any person: “Neither Assad, nor anyone else. Syrians must sit down and agree. ”

The strongest discrepancy was found in the situation with the use of chemical weapons. Tillerson said that the chemical weapons used the Assad regime, and Lavrov demanded evidence: “We consider it counterproductive in the UN Security Council to adopt a resolution devoted not so much to the investigation, as to legitimization of the charges that are a priori [sounding] of official Damascus. We have other facts, we are not trying to impose them on anyone, we want an objective investigation. ”

Some advantages can be called the attempts of both sides not only to eliminate, but at least “identify” certain “irritants” that prevent the United States and the Russian Federation from establishing relations.

“We must stop the degradation of our relations, we must restore confidence in order to resolve issues that are important to all of us. We agreed to set up a working group to resolve those issues that require an immediate solution to stabilize the situation, ”Tillerson television and radio quoted.

Lavrov, in turn, noted that the special representatives of the Russian Foreign Ministry and the US State Department "without emotions and aggravations, in detail" will determine the irritants that have accumulated in recent years.

Some positive can be seen in the commitment of both parties to the fight against terrorism.

“The negotiations turned out to be thorough, frank, covered the whole range of issues that are crucial for our bilateral relations, for interaction in international affairs,” RIA News" Lavrov’s words at a press conference after meeting with President Putin. “We reaffirmed our common focus on an uncompromising fight against international terrorism,” Lavrov said. “I think that there are enough sensible people in the United States and Russia who can separate the wheat from the chaff, and who can still be guided by the fundamental, non-opportunistic interests of our peoples, our countries and the entire international community,” the minister added. According to him, “history has proved when Moscow and Washington cooperate, and not only our peoples, but the whole world win.”

The parties also discussed the problems of the Korean Peninsula. “Russia and the United States discussed how to find ways to break the spiral of confrontation on the Korean Peninsula and create conditions for the resumption of negotiations,” said S. Lavrov.

The well-known topic of “Russian hackers” was also touched upon.

According to Lavrov, no one has ever “shown” the evidence of hacker interference in the US: “I didn’t see who saw them, no one showed us anything, no one said anything, although we repeatedly asked to present the data underlying these unsubstantiated accusations. "

Mentioned in the conversation and the topic of Ukraine. As Lavrov explained, Moscow and Washington are in favor of the full implementation of the Minsk agreements.

On the same day, the head of the US Department of State was received in the Kremlin by the President of Russia. The meeting was held with the participation of Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. According to various sources, evening talks lasted about two hours or a little more. “We held talks with US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, we just had a long, over two hours meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The negotiations turned out to be thorough, frank, covered the whole range of issues that are crucial for our bilateral relations and for interaction in international affairs ", - quotes Newsru.com Russian Foreign Minister. Also at a press conference following the meeting, the Russian minister said: “I am sure that many of the hours that we spent with Rex Tillerson together with the President of the Russian Federation were not wasted. We understand each other better after what we have done together today. I hope these contacts will be continued both directly between us, and through our employees, and through other departments of the US administration and the government of the Russian Federation. ”

According to the US Secretary of State, the meetings did not discuss the issue of sanctions against the Russian Federation. “We did not discuss the issue of changing the status of sanctions, which were applied as a result of certain actions taken in Ukraine,” Tillerson told the press.

In turn, Lavrov stressed that Tillerson "did not threaten sanctions and nothing else", although at the talks and "questions were openly discussed on which there are problems between the United States and Russia."

On the other hand, Mr. Tillerson said at a meeting in the Kremlin that in order to develop bilateral relations between the US and the Russian Federation, the situation in Ukraine should be improved.

Separately, at the meeting of V. V. Putin with the head of the US State Department, the incident in Khan-Sheikhun and the missile attack by Washington on the Syrian airport were discussed.

According to S. Lavrov, Moscow sees Washington’s readiness to support the investigation of reports on the use of chemical weapons in the Syrian province of Idlib: “They drew attention to the letter from the Syrian government to the UN and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons with a proposal, even asking to send a team of inspectors to conduct an impartial objective investigation and on the scene of the incident in the province of Idlib, and at the airport, which was subjected to impact. " “We saw the readiness of our American colleagues to support such an investigation, and we expect that the existing powers of the OPCW will be activated immediately,” the Russian minister said. He emphasized that Moscow is not trying to block anyone in the incident, but insists on an objective investigation. At the same time, the minister acknowledged that there is a discrepancy between the United States and the Russian Federation on this issue: "The possible use of chemical weapons in Syria remains a topic on which the positions of the Russian Federation and the United States diverge."

American estimates of Tillerson’s trip to Moscow are already known.

Donald Trump believes that Rex Tillerson has done “tremendous work” in negotiations both in Russia and before in Italy.

“I want to note the remarkable work done by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to strengthen the unity of NATO, as well as his visit to Moscow to advance the security interests of the United States and our allies. He did a great job, he just saw a part - it is a great job! "- Trump quotes RIA News".

Agency ReutersSumming up the Moscow meetings of Tillerson, he notes that the cool reception of the Secretary of State in Moscow has canceled out hopes for a speedy improvement in relations between the two states.

For presidents and the United States. and Russia were characterized by "gloomy views on relations between the two countries," the agency’s journalists wrote. The reason for the cooling is clear: Moscow arranged an "ice meeting" for the highest person of American diplomacy. In Washington, President Trump even said that the United States’s relations with Moscow "may be at the lowest level." Actually, President Putin was just as pessimistic. In an interview with Russian television, he said: "The level of trust at the working level, especially at the military level, has not improved, but has significantly deteriorated."

According to Reuters journalists, in Moscow, the US Secretary of State received "unusually hostile." Hopes that during the Trump administration the “confrontational relations” will be smoothed out, evaporated.

Tillerson met with Putin in the Kremlin after a conversation with his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov, reminds Reuters, but the Kremlin had previously refused to confirm Putin’s meeting with Tillerson, and this "reflects renewed tensions."

As for Lavrov, he met Tillerson with “ice cues”, condemning the “illegal” rocket attack on Syria and accusing Washington of unpredictable behavior.

One of Lavrov’s subordinates was even less diplomatic, believes Reuters. “In general, primitiveness and rudeness are very characteristic of the current rhetoric emanating from Washington,” said Russian Deputy Minister Sergei Ryabkov to the Russian state agency (meaning RIA ”News").

As for Tillerson, he also noted the low level of trust between the two countries. And this level, in his opinion, is unacceptable: "The two leading nuclear powers of the world cannot have such relations."

Nikolai Zlobin, president of the Center for Global Interests in Washington, described Tillerson’s trip as “not very” understandable.

“Obviously, no common language was found for Syria,” the expert’s opinion cites. "BBC". - I don’t really understand why Tillerson flew to Moscow. Perhaps, as a gesture of goodwill: try to include Russia in the dialogue. ” “The American position was formulated long ago and publicly, and it could be repeated without a trip to Moscow and even more so without meeting with Putin. The reason why Putin accepted Tillerson is a mystery to me - maybe it was also a goodwill gesture, ”Zlobin added.

According to the expert, the possibility of a "breakthrough" is not visible, except that Tillerson brought Putin a "personal message from Trump." Such a message could concern two problems: Syria and the reduction of nuclear weapons. “On nuclear weapons, he has already voiced the position: Russia will not go for a further reduction. And about Syria, the positions were once again voiced today - and they are extremely far from each other, ”the expert explains.

Recall in conclusion that before flying to Moscow, the US Secretary of State put forward an ultimatum to Russia: he urged Moscow to abandon the support of Bashar Assad. The Russian Foreign Ministry on this respondedthat Tillerson's statement is perceived as “muscle play” before negotiations.

As for the substance of the matter, Moscow does not intend to distance itself from the president of Syria. According to the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov, the current president of Syria is the legitimate leader of the country and the commander-in-chief of the army that fights international terrorists.

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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 13 2017 08: 56
    +11
    A meeting was held in the Kremlin of Vladimir Putin, Sergey Lavrov and US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. According to US President Trump, relations between Washington and Moscow are at the lowest level in the entire history of diplomatic relations between the two states.

    The relations of two opposing powers cannot, by definition, be friendly. And given the centuries-old desire of the Anglo-Saxons to destroy Russia and the people with its culture, history, etc., the picture looms in oil.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt April 13 2017 09: 21
      +12
      Trump Tillerson - Rex, face !. And Lavrov - Rex, phew! laughing Poor doggie. Completely driven and fed with sorrel soup. crying
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 13 2017 09: 28
        +9
        and rex, entangled in the teams, took up the eternal business of all dogs that have nothing to do
        1. For your motherland, your mother))
          For your motherland, your mother)) April 13 2017 10: 44
          +2
          Thank you, subtly amused)))
      2. maxim947
        maxim947 April 13 2017 11: 32
        0
        Trump Tillerson - Rex, face !. And Lavrov - Rex, phew! laughing poor doggie[i] [/ i]
        Do not forget about one more dog - the Minister of Defense, responds to the nickname "Mad Dog".
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 13 2017 11: 38
          +2
          even speaks ????? fellow
          1. maxim947
            maxim947 April 13 2017 14: 05
            0
            I don’t know whether it responds or not, but the Minister of Defense has a nickname, which in itself is strange ...
        2. ramzes1776
          ramzes1776 April 13 2017 12: 47
          0
          The dog brought to Moscow a message from his master: "Comrade Commander-in-Chief, the implementation has succeeded. I am going to work. I am waiting for further orders." - Lt. Col. Donald Trampenko ... laughing
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina April 13 2017 17: 28
            +9
            ramzes1776 Today, 12:47 PM ↑
            The dog brought to Moscow a message from his master: "Comrade Commander-in-Chief, the implementation has succeeded. I am going to work. I am waiting for further orders." - Lt. Col. Donald Trampenko ... laughing
            You know, in the light of recent events it’s somehow not even funny! request
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be April 13 2017 11: 57
      +2
      The American slogan: “Choose the USA or SYRIA” - the slogan is not for the Russian authorities. The Russian authorities have made a choice long ago - they will not give up Syria. This slogan is for opposition forces in the Russian Federation itself and for 5. 6 .7.8 .. liberal and anti-Russian columns working on US grants in the upcoming future Presidential elections in Russia (The election of the President of Russia should be held on March 11, 2018.)
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        1. Max otto
          Max otto April 13 2017 13: 15
          +4
          The fact is that Syria was just the least religiousized Arab country. And she was not a beggar.
          But about Khrushchev, you're right.
          And what about "
          Quote: Basarev
          ... which houses are not a sin and to bomb from a helicopter.

          I believe that people who allow such things even in their heads need to be isolated and given the 2nd group of disability.
          Because suddenly someone decides that that religious mudlan is you, what will you do?
          1. Basarev
            Basarev April 13 2017 13: 36
            0
            Quote: Max Otto
            The fact is that Syria was just the least religiousized Arab country. And she was not a beggar.

            Yes, in comparison with the same Israel, all Arab countries are poor and backward. Because it is necessary to engage in science, and not sit straight, sucking on the bounties and budget of the USSR. That's just science and religion - these are antonyms and with the Israeli approach, heaps of local mullahs and muftis will lose money and power. What did not want. In fact, the Syrian rulers made a voluntary choice in favor of the Muslim clergy, setting before it the task of explaining why Syria is so poor (relatively rapidly richer Israel) and why it should be so.
        2. dauria
          dauria April 13 2017 13: 45
          +2
          So my choice is made. I choose the USA, a rich technically developed country,


          Surprisingly, before you the same choice was made by Gorbachev, Yeltsin and even some of the Soviet people. laughing The result "across the face"

          By the way, the United States is rich precisely because the rest are poor. Well, it will be difficult for you to accept. wink
          1. Basarev
            Basarev April 13 2017 13: 51
            0
            Not the USA or even the collective west organized
            Quote: dauria
            The result "across the face"

            And only and exclusively local graffiti hunters, farmers and the former nomenclature, who wanted to preserve their truly noble privileges in the new system. That is, only that damned caste with which Stalin fought. The USA has nothing to do with it.
            1. dauria
              dauria April 13 2017 13: 59
              +1
              The USA has nothing to do with it.


              Of course, "neither ear nor snout." And NATO in the Baltic states, and draconian contracts for the extraction of hydrocarbons in the 90s, and the expulsion of the Russian Federation from all regions - Libya, Iraq, (they didn’t have time with Syria) - all this was done for our good. The USA is just white and fluffy. Well, robbed a bit, how not to rob, a holy cause, if they can’t give in the face. laughing
        3. Alena Frolovna
          Alena Frolovna April 13 2017 13: 52
          +7
          Basarev
          Here Stalin was friends with Israel


          Stalin was not friends with Israel. Stalin was its creator, to solve some geopolitical problems - weakening the influence of Great Britain and preventing the expansion of US influence in the Middle East.
        4. Sarmat149
          Sarmat149 April 13 2017 13: 56
          +4
          Your choice of the USA is a religion for even more frostbitten sectarians. )))

          Particularly laughs "where a man is in glory and honor."

          Either paid Troll, or maydaun, or useful, and so on. In any case, radish horseradish is not sweeter.
        5. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be April 13 2017 13: 57
          +4
          There is a wise old proverb: “Even a small lie gives rise to great distrust”
          1.. Syria was not a poor country. I have been to Syria several times. And I saw how they lived there.

          2. You distort! And B Stalin was not friends with Israel. Stalin did not create and did not arm the Israeli army Israelis themselves about this - see http://newswe.com/index.php?go=Pages&in=view&
          amp; id = 4098
          http://www.eleven.co.il/article/15422
          3. Your choice - absolutely no one shakes. Brighton is waiting for you. Or are you in California, the daughter of a military man from the Crimea. ?? laughing laughing
          1. Basarev
            Basarev April 13 2017 18: 32
            0
            Quote: To be or not to be
            1.. Syria was not a poor country. I have been to Syria several times. And I saw how they lived there.

            As I said, she is not a pauper in absolute terms. And in relative. This does not change the essence: in comparison with the already mentioned Israel or the monarchies of the Gulf, all Arab countries look poor. Approximately like Russia in comparison with Finland or Canada.
            Quote: To be or not to be
            2. Distort! And Stalin was not friends with Israel. Stalin did not create or arm the Israeli army

            I did not write that Stalin created and armed the Israeli army. He only wrote that Stalin pretty much contributed to its creation. Would he be at enmity with his brainchild? Unlikely. That is, in fact, we can talk about friendship. That is, I did not lie anywhere.
        6. Squelcher
          Squelcher April 13 2017 14: 29
          0
          Sadam was friends with the United States, and what happened to him? And such examples .......
          1. Basarev
            Basarev April 13 2017 18: 39
            +1
            Saddam was a fool. He betrayed the Soviets, as he sensed a threat to his power. When the USSR collapsed, he was left face to face with very angry tribes and sects. I realized that without serious cover he could not be corrected for a long time - and immediately went over to the American camp. But traitors are hated everywhere.
        7. V.ic
          V.ic April 13 2017 14: 55
          0
          Quote: Basarev
          I choose USA

          So why do you still have the avatar of the flag of the Russian Federation? An application for departure filed?
          Quote: Basarev
          religion is the lot of frostbitten sectarians whose houses are not a sin to bomb from a helicopter.

          Are you talking about your favorites from the ATO in the Donbass?
  2. Thirteenth
    Thirteenth April 13 2017 09: 09
    +8
    The lifting of sanctions should not be affected at all in any negotiations. This is a contrived, artificially created lever of pressure on Russia.
    As the sanctions were introduced, so let it be canceled without any conditions. And do not cancel the hell with them, we survive.
    1. bandabas
      bandabas April 13 2017 09: 36
      +5
      Yes, it’s easy to survive. Only those gentlemen-comrades who advise us to survive all this (we will not point fingers, everyone perfectly understands who I am talking about) that with sanctions, with anti-sanctions, and even more so without any sanctions, feel chocolate. They have money, and they "hold on." By the way. I recalled a good saying- "Lack of money brings problems. And the presence of big money is much larger."
      1. Thirteenth
        Thirteenth April 13 2017 09: 59
        +4
        You are right, let's return the Crimea and leave the Donbass and the sanctions will be lifted in a week. Then we’ll immediately heal)))
        1. For your motherland, your mother))
          For your motherland, your mother)) April 13 2017 10: 50
          +5
          If the Federation suddenly begins to return Crimea, you will be amazed to see that the United States will ... against))), because they do not care about Crimea, the Federation and Ukraine, it is important for them to maintain (and maintain) a state of permanent conflict. The current situation is fine with the United States.
          And they will come up with sanctions for whatever else))).
          1. Catherine II
            Catherine II April 13 2017 22: 34
            0
            Quote: For the Motherland, your mother))
            If the Federation suddenly begins to return Crimea, you will be amazed to see that the United States will ... against)

            and Ukraine will shake so much after the return of Crimea, which will not seem enough. So for the preservation of Ukraine, both the USA and Ukraine will not take it (I’m even sure for this they will come up with some kind of indemnity - like either with it or not)
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          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I April 13 2017 12: 43
            +1
            PS Thirteenth: "Let's return the Crimea and give up the Donbass ... Then we will live!" Yes FIG! Why? See above....
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 13 2017 09: 40
      +2
      Quote: Thirteenth
      As the sanctions were introduced, so let it be canceled without any conditions. And do not cancel the hell with them, we survive.

      You will excuse me ... no offense, but looking at your avatar ... in general, here's a video, and there you think ... hi
      1. Thirteenth
        Thirteenth April 13 2017 09: 56
        +3
        Interesting video. Well, essentially, is there something?
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS April 13 2017 09: 58
          +2
          Quote: Thirteenth
          Interesting video. Well, essentially, is there something?

          I just showed you the video ... there is no question of any criticism ...
          1. Thirteenth
            Thirteenth April 13 2017 10: 13
            +2
            If they undertook to supply me with interesting videos, then be sure to send more, I will find a moment and be sure to watch it and if I like it I will give you a like))
    3. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be April 13 2017 12: 04
      +1
      There are no external sanctions that would bring down the Russian economy. Reliance on own forces and production will only give an impetus to the development of the Russian economy. Europe itself will suffer from sanctions ... which is nice for the United States. And definitely. no sanctions against the Russian Federation before the March 11, 2018 elections will take on a role in the collapse of the economy and Russia and the standard of living of the people. But interference in the elections in Russia will be - it’s not for nothing that they yell in a friendly chorus about the alleged Russian interference in their elections — they work for the future.
      1. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf April 13 2017 12: 47
        +5
        Of course, sanctions will not bring down our “economy.” Her comrade Naebulin and her friends supported the roof. We’ll go through the bottom for the third time. It’s true that on the second day they took one of the Nabeulins, but not for long, they will soon release them with an apology and the return of all the blessings, as Vasilyeva had. The most important thing is to believe in everything that the duet of Christina and Phantom tell us and will be Happiness.
        1. Basarev
          Basarev April 13 2017 13: 08
          +2
          The most interesting thing is that external sanctions really do not mean anything. It was our countersanctions that lowered the standard of living. Punishment must be carried with dignity. Once sanctioned, the best that can be done is to plead guilty, rectify it and endure hardships stoically. Then, when the deadline comes, the sanctions will be canceled and everything will return to normal. But do not throw all the burdens on the common people. Sanctions were imposed against specific individuals, while counter-sanctions against all of Russia.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null April 13 2017 13: 16
            +1
            Quote: Basarev
            Sanctions imposed on specific individuals

            - But only (I know for sure that not only)?

            More from now on if you can yes
            1. Basarev
              Basarev April 13 2017 13: 41
              +1
              Yes, those sanctions lists are available everywhere in Tyrnyt, even in Wikivraki, it seems. And in the lists of those - specific names, surnames and names of organizations. The state of the Russian Federation is not there anywhere. This is our country and the ruler is one and the same. In the West, these are completely different concepts, and in this I like their approach. I would develop it even further and proclaim: states are temporary, and nations are eternal. Do not hold on to a dead grip on the Russian Federation. But only for the Great Russian people.
              1. kg pv
                kg pv April 13 2017 14: 54
                +1
                Vlasovets what? Now you drown for the USA, then for the Great Russian people.
                Go to the "Azov" fertilize the land of New Russia! am
              2. Cat man null
                Cat man null April 13 2017 16: 10
                +2
                Quote: Basarev
                in the lists of those - specific names, surnames and names of organizations...

                - oh it's already warmer ...
                - But you didn’t notice that among the “organizations” - consider the entire Russian defense industry, oil industry, transport?
                - it’s strange if it’s so ... although - why the hell are you covering your banks, apparently ... so, this ... banks, they are also useful if alcohol do not abuse them wink

                Quote: Basarev
                The state of the Russian Federation is not there anywhere

                - GYYY laughing laughing laughing
                - but there are a lot of things there, due to which the Russian Federation lives and, oddly enough, develops ...

                In short, how to say: these very sanctified people came up with these sanctions. They did not take into account only one thing - the strange Russian mentality. Like, we are spread rot, and we are getting stronger belay

                That's about as yes
              3. Ascetic
                Ascetic April 13 2017 17: 20
                +1
                Quote: Basarev
                states are temporary, and nations are eternal. Do not hold on to a dead grip on the Russian Federation. But only for the Great Russian people.

                You tell this slogan to the example of Israeli Jews, spit on Israel the main thing that you are a great chosen people. The people there are touchy and vulnerable, we Russians will laugh at stupidity and tell the client not to pour it anymore, and there they can forget with sticks
              4. patriot-rf
                patriot-rf 10 July 2017 18: 30
                0
                There’s where the dog rummaged. So it’s time for you in analytics. And I think that’s so shitty that’s all.
  3. Smog
    Smog April 13 2017 09: 12
    +4
    Everyone will stand his ground.
    One cannot speak of any reduction in the degree of passions.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 13 2017 10: 01
      +4
      Quote: Smog
      Everyone will stand his ground. One cannot speak of any reduction in the degree of passions.

      We will see. Somehow, the actions on this visit are not very logical. First, the status of the visit was lowered by eliminating the meeting with the president. Then, during the visit, the status was raised and the meeting took place. Most likely, Rex dragged something that goes beyond the official part and should have been announced behind the scenes. Moreover, in the near future, the meeting between Trump and Putin is still being prepared. Given the "circle of well-wishers" around Trump, not everything that he really thinks and how he sees the solution to problems can be voiced by him personally ..
      1. Smog
        Smog April 13 2017 10: 11
        +4
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Rex dragged something that goes beyond the official part and should have been announced behind the scenes.

        Also inclined to this option. And most likely to personally voice the head of state. So to say "living letter." Well, and then for sure you said, we will see. So far, there is little information, even indirect information. There was too little time after the meeting. But judging by the fact that neither Lavrov nor Tillerson praises sang, the conversation was quite complicated and difficult for both sides. hi
  4. Alex66
    Alex66 April 13 2017 09: 34
    +5
    They are: Russians (oligarchs) give up!
    We: "this is our cow and we milk it"
    They: you lost the USSR no, you are alone
    We: "this is our cow and we milk it" Putin has a bottle slipping behind his bosom, he catches it abruptly, Rex turned pale.
    1. Smog
      Smog April 13 2017 10: 19
      +6
      Quote: Alex66
      We: "this is our cow and we milk it" Putin has a bottle slipping behind his bosom, he catches it abruptly, Rex turned pale.

      Are you not from the crooked mirror named after Regina Dubovitskaya? And how for a sinus can a bottle slip out?
      If it can slip out, then from somewhere - because of the sinus, from the pocket, from the mesh-string bag, etc.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 April 13 2017 11: 48
        +1
        Yes, to the point it is said about the "cow." And the lessons of Russian grammar are not appropriate here.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null April 13 2017 12: 20
          0
          Quote: andrew42
          ... Russian grammar lessons here not appropriate

          - for sure. Wife - cabbage soup - cook - teach yes
      2. Alex66
        Alex66 April 13 2017 12: 13
        +1
        And this is from the series about cops, it was popular about 15 years ago, the two of them went to negotiations with bandits, the little one had a bottle in his bosom, it slipped out, he had to catch it. The sharp movements strained them very much, even later they complained to their acquaintances.
      3. Alex66
        Alex66 April 13 2017 12: 19
        0
        About found the link look: https://youtu.be/iw1k67MLZrw
    2. For your motherland, your mother))
      For your motherland, your mother)) April 13 2017 10: 55
      +2
      Funny, well done. And most importantly, to the very point, the Federation has nothing else besides the arguments "this is my cow" (only Molotov’s nuclear cocktail in the bosom). Well done - just one joke - but to the point. Offset))).
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 April 13 2017 16: 21
        +2
        Yes, with you, the little troll, no comparison. You lag behind in development, and much more. There are no arguments, you say? And you, when you chop into a "fool", you immediately shine your trump card? If so, then the situation is even worse ...
      2. Smog
        Smog April 13 2017 18: 49
        +3
        Quote: For the Motherland, your mother))
        For your motherland, your mother))

        My ......, the interlocutor. And let me ask, on what basis do you discuss the internal affairs of the Russian Federation? For a few days ago you spoke
        For your motherland, your mother)) April 11, 2017 09:28 | Teens demanded from Navalny promised money
        Wiskar, I will not tire of repeating to you that you do not have the moral right to discuss something about the internal affairs of the Federation, until you decide who you are a citizen of — Israel or the Federation. Two citizenship thing may be legally legal, but we will tell the truth, immoral as prostitution.
        So what moral right do you have? About dual citizenship you just explained in your post
        For your motherland, your mother)) Today, 12:04 | Nazarbayev ordered the Kazakh language to be translated into Latin .................... However, this is to me, as the professor expressed the monopensual I Transnistrian,.
        Sorry, it’s not interesting with you. You do not even know how to troll. You can not write the answer, your opinion is violet to me.
      3. patriot-rf
        patriot-rf 10 July 2017 18: 33
        0
        Only one cocktail? And they have a snack?
  5. PV KGB of the USSR
    PV KGB of the USSR April 13 2017 09: 39
    +3
    I want to note the wonderful work that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has done to strengthen NATO's unity, as well as his visit to Moscow to advance the security interests of the United States and our allies. He did a tremendous job, just saw a part - it's a colossal job!

    The work may have been "colossal", only if Mr. Tillerson tried to speak the language of ultimatums, then the result from this work will be zero, or maybe even minus. They don’t go to Russia with ultimatums! We are no longer the Russia of the 90s, we don’t need glass beads like the Papuans, we need our geopolitical interests to be taken into account and we can only speak on equal terms.
    1. Basarev
      Basarev April 13 2017 13: 15
      +2
      Quote: PV KGB USSR
      We are not that Russia of the 90s, we don’t need glass beads like the Papuans

      Yah? And when Putin just gave the islands away to China, when Medvedev gave the Norwegians the Barents mite for so much, and when the government conducted (and still is) muddy negotiations with the Japanese in the Kuril Islands and doesn’t say no so categorically - weren't the Papuans? Even worse than the Papuans - they at least gave wealth to beads. And ours give out absolutely free.
      1. Thirteenth
        Thirteenth April 13 2017 13: 33
        +2
        Uncle, the one who gave the islands to the Chinese is no longer in the world. Learn the background.
  6. sancho
    sancho April 13 2017 09: 50
    +3
    when your interlocutor pretends to be deaf-blind with him it is almost impossible to negotiate, especially since he is waiting for you to turn away to scam you on the head and rob you up like a normal gopnik. understand that.
  7. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 13 2017 10: 04
    +3
    According to the US Secretary of State, Syrian President Assad should step down from power.
    For such statements, for starters, he would first need to have Syrian citizenship. For example, I don’t like the personalities of the leaders of many states, but this is not a reason to urge (even among my friends) to remove them from power. Hosts, damn it. They cannot figure out the attitude to the elected president themselves, but they teach others to pick their nose.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 13 2017 10: 55
    +2
    primitiveness and rudeness are very characteristic of the current rhetoric emanating from Washington

    And this is still put it mildly, although the Americans believe that it is not entirely diplomatic. Interestingly, do they hear their representatives in international organizations? That's where it does not even smell like diplomacy.
  9. komrad buh
    komrad buh April 13 2017 11: 10
    +1
    Since the game started, then play, it’s too late to turn on the back, there is no turning back
  10. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 13 2017 11: 15
    +1
    The president is an amateur who cannot even assemble his team to the end, sends a businessman without experience in diplomatic issues to scare another president who has never seen such ones before. And then Tillerson, before meeting with Putin, is trying to circle the finger of a burnt career diplomat ...
  11. evgesha
    evgesha April 13 2017 11: 50
    +1
    Proper diplomacy is when, during a meeting between Lavrov and Tillerson-Shoigu, he holds a meeting of the General Staff.
  12. evgesha
    evgesha April 13 2017 11: 57
    0

    Trump sends Rex to Moscow, did everyone recognize it? laughing
  13. iouris
    iouris April 13 2017 12: 28
    +1
    Rex is an oilman. I think he outlined the future prospects of the oil industry, and this is a strategic issue. Negotiations can only be conducted to discuss the terms of delivery. I wonder if Xi surrendered his Kim, and if he did, will he be sent to oblivion?
  14. Vladimir Kanygin
    Vladimir Kanygin April 13 2017 12: 37
    +2
    whatever our people say, the ultimatum was handed to the first person and he listened to him. the rest is camouflage, everyone discussed and achieved nothing. One - the task was to foist an ultimatum and better to the first person. Ours decided to listen and to say the same in the first person, that we have your ultimatums in figs. So guys think about it.
  15. Altona
    Altona April 13 2017 15: 07
    0
    Quote: Basarev
    And religion is the lot of frostbitten sectarians whose houses are not a sin to bomb from a helicopter.

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    There is no need to allow fascist remarks here. Nobody gave anyone any right to bomb and kill someone.
  16. Altona
    Altona April 13 2017 15: 14
    +1
    Quote: Berkut24
    The president is an amateur who cannot even assemble his team to the end, sends a businessman without experience in diplomatic issues to scare another president who has never seen such ones before. And then Tillerson, before meeting with Putin, is trying to circle the finger of a burnt career diplomat ...

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    Businessman plays in short games, politician for a long time. Trump has neither strategy nor patience, after the departure of victory architect Bannon, Trump became just another globalist doll. Moreover, the globalists competently shake it on all fronts, leaving Trump a narrow and profitable corridor of decision-bombing, militant rhetoric, the desire to arrange a small victorious flogging of the next "tyrant".
  17. MA3031SWL
    MA3031SWL April 15 2017 01: 08
    +1
    The trouble is that there was no choice between Trump and Clinton initially. Either arrogant redneck, or nutty hysterical. And now you have to deal with who is. Who is behind this moron is another question (although perhaps the most important). But a lot of diplomatic efforts will have to be made to reduce the degree of tension. It seemed that in the last days of Obama, he was already too tall, but the last actions of the silly Gopnik raised him even higher. The world, indeed, turned out to be too dangerous. God grant that those behind Trump can warn him against taking too much thought (if, of course, they are interested in this).
  18. Weyland
    Weyland April 26 2017 21: 42
    +1
    As for Tillerson, he also noted the low level of trust between the two countries. And this level, in his opinion, is unacceptable: "The two leading nuclear powers of the world cannot have such relations."

    "Nat. Nat. Nat. Net. Net. Yes. Nat. Nat. Net. Goodbye, Churchill Gaspad!"
    - Comrade Stalin, sorry for the curiosity - and to what question did you answer: "Yes"?
    - Churchill asked if I can hear him!
  19. Evil 55
    Evil 55 7 August 2017 13: 08
    0
    The ultimatum of Russia? In the process, the descendants of African slaves and European villains completely froze ..
  20. NordUral
    NordUral 1 October 2017 18: 27
    0
    It’s an empty thing to negotiate with the Yankees being weak. It is necessary to revive the country's economic and military power. Only the Anglo-Saxon elite understands power.
    But this requires cardinal changes in the country, and most importantly - in our (people's) understanding of the situation and direction of development.
  21. White and fluffy
    White and fluffy 27 October 2017 09: 48
    0
    The United States in its relations with Russia is guided by the principle (I want to turn it over) up to the complete rejection of international norms, rules, declarations and other documents.