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Environmentalists from Norway were afraid of the Russian submarine

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In the summer, the command of the Russian Navy intends to transfer the world's largest nuclear submarine “Dmitry Donskoy” to St. Petersburg to participate in the International Navy Salon. This news aroused environmentalists from Norway, since the submarine should pass by Scandinavia, the channel RT.



The Environmental Association of Norway has criticized Russian plans and assured that it will take action as soon as possible. In particular, environmentalists are going to send a note to the government of Norway, Sweden and Denmark, demanding that the submarine be banned from making this maneuver.

“We are concerned about this voyage. Despite the fact that many nuclear submarines pass along the coast of Norway, this is a special case. The degree of risk depends on several factors, information about which is not currently available. For example, we are interested in the technical condition of the submarine; whether reactors will be involved during sailing, whether ships will accompany a submarine that can help in case of engine failure, whether nuclear weapon.

In order to get answers to these questions, we strongly recommend the governments of countries located along the route of the submarine (among them Norway, Sweden and Denmark) to contact the government of the Russian Federation, ”the organization’s press service said.

The governments of these countries assured that they will necessarily respond to the appeal of environmentalists as soon as they receive it.

Comment of Doctor of Technical Sciences from Moscow Power University Alexander Bukharov:

Everyone understands that the probability of any accident is negligible. Moreover, it does not plan to transport nuclear weapons. Nuclear submarines are an environmentally friendly mode of transport, therefore the assertions about environmental pollution have no basis. There is obvious political overtones. Now in the Scandinavian countries they use every opportunity to demonstrate their negative attitude towards Russia. They cannot forbid a boat to pass on neutral waters, but they can make a noise in the media.
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  1. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 12 2017 08: 43
    +9
    It seems that the grants have been thrown to the spring exacerbations by ekoluhi. Squealed, clowns.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 12 2017 08: 45
      +12
      Paranoia, it is such an infectious thing, the main thing is to squeak something against Russia.
      1. dik-nsk
        dik-nsk April 12 2017 08: 48
        +6
        Yes, there’s no paranoia, all these ecologists, starting with Greenpeace, are in the service and work for the loot, who pays - they yap in favor of it, business - nothing personal
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 April 12 2017 08: 53
          +5
          Environmentalists from Norway were afraid of the Russian submarine

          How would these environmentalists, with fear, not polluted the ecology of Norway! lol
          1. BYV
            BYV April 12 2017 09: 33
            +2
            The degree of risk depends on several factors, information on which is currently not available.

            Read. I thought. I re-read it again. I thought again. I read it a third time. So I didn’t understand anything. Got upset. I envy the quality of the grass.
            will reactors be involved during the voyage

            Well, it’s already quite simple. The submarine is nuclear, therefore, of course, the reactor will not work. Yes and no there. And it cannot be by definition. The submarine is atomic ...
            1. Karachun
              Karachun April 12 2017 23: 50
              0
              That's why a group of ships accompanies each of our submarines, suddenly something happens to the engine wassat
      2. The black
        The black April 12 2017 08: 48
        +4
        Oops ... and here comes the destination point of the missing Afghan drugs laughing
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter April 12 2017 08: 53
          +6
          Quote: Black
          Oops ... and here comes the destination point of the missing Afghan drugs laughing

          hi Along the way - the Vikings struck treason? wink
      3. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter April 12 2017 08: 55
        +5
        Hi bro! hi drinks
        Quote: vovanpain
        Paranoia, it is such an infectious thing, the main thing is to squeak something against Russia.

        And if it is also backed up with a voiced coin - paranoia grows well, rightly so, exponentially! wink
    2. dik-nsk
      dik-nsk April 12 2017 08: 46
      +1
      For example, we are interested in what is the technical condition of the submarine; will reactors be involved during the voyage, will ships accompany the submarine that can help in the event of engine failure, will there be nuclear weapons on board
      Or maybe you still have the keys to the apartment?
      1. sancho
        sancho April 12 2017 08: 58
        0
        Instead of rockets, hand grenades will go on oars.
    3. Vladimir 38
      Vladimir 38 April 12 2017 08: 48
      +2
      And what environmentalists are silent when Trump shoots in Syria? Business smells like a global environmental nuclear disaster
    4. MPK105
      MPK105 April 12 2017 08: 49
      +4
      It seems that this is the boat that the Swedes stubbornly searched for, but never found ... Team Her low bow ... wink Well, with regards to the text of the article — why not squeak to them — we showed our "strength" in Syria ... Now only the lazy one will not kick us ...
    5. Nasrat
      Nasrat April 12 2017 09: 48
      0
      It would be necessary to send two such cruisers .....
  2. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 April 12 2017 08: 49
    0
    Let's send them a batch of diapers, otherwise the smell has already gone
    1. AUL
      AUL April 12 2017 09: 36
      +1
      Spring ... Jokes about diapers began ...
  3. Wild_grey_wolf
    Wild_grey_wolf April 12 2017 08: 50
    +1
    It sounds like a talk about military equipment by housewives. And most importantly, they’re not afraid to seem like really stupid boobs.
  4. mitrich
    mitrich April 12 2017 08: 50
    +9
    It is necessary to pass our nuclear submarine along their shore in a surface position. And attach a pipe to the wheelhouse so that black smoke would pour out of it. And to explain to everyone, supposedly, the ventilation of the reactors. Well then, certainly, not only environmentalists, they will .. laughing
    1. jjj
      jjj April 12 2017 11: 02
      +1
      She is above water and will go. Yes, in some places you will have to get rid of a significant part of the ballast. Etc. 941 is designed so that it can go into all the naval forces of the USSR. Now it is possible to verify this in practice with respect to the Baltic Fleet bases
  5. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 12 2017 08: 52
    +1
    The ecologist and the idiot in Europe are now identically
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 12 2017 08: 58
      +3
      Environmental NPOs are not “idiots” - this is a fairly proven and quite effective ideological weapon specially created to uphold the political and economic interests of certain power circles in the “West” as well as “their own” (“ Western ") transnational corporations. Do not neglect them.
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 12 2017 08: 52
    +5
    In particular, environmentalists are going to send a note to the government of Norway, Sweden and Denmark, demanding that the submarine be prohibited from performing this maneuver.

    Deny? Which way? Yes, she will slip under your nose, you will not notice ... wink
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat April 12 2017 08: 56
      +3
      This is how the picture appears: 48 000 (49 800) tons of underwater displacement, with a length of 172m and a height of 26m, quietly and quietly dives into the corners laughing
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya April 12 2017 09: 06
        +5
        Yes, without noise and dust, on soft paws, so to speak ...
        1. jjj
          jjj April 12 2017 11: 03
          0
          And what PR in the world media to the Russian Navy and Russian shipbuilding
      2. Topotun
        Topotun April 12 2017 10: 23
        0
        And the Swedes have been searching intensively for six months ...
        1. Topotun
          Topotun April 12 2017 10: 23
          0
          In its waters and in shallow water ...
  7. AID.S
    AID.S April 12 2017 08: 53
    +1
    Russian environmentalists need to express concern about the uncontrolled emission of gases into the atmosphere by Norway.
  8. gla172
    gla172 April 12 2017 09: 02
    +4
    ... stupidly politicized action ... for which you should not even waste time and pay attention ....
  9. sancho
    sancho April 12 2017 09: 03
    0
    But how did you walk along the Norwegian coast before?
  10. Shukshin
    Shukshin April 12 2017 09: 20
    0
    The dog barks, the caravan goes.
  11. Boris Tomarov_2
    Boris Tomarov_2 April 12 2017 09: 28
    0
    No, but the crew, this agro-industrial complex, will throw out some excrement, they are all ** ** t, all the Euro-Baltic countries, especially since the Russians, unlike the "clean Euro-ass", do not wash themselves. And this is a national environmental disaster.
  12. Old26
    Old26 April 12 2017 10: 04
    +1
    Honestly, sometimes the same environmentalists broadcast nonsense. As an example
    “We express concern about this voyage. Despite the fact that along the coast of Norway there are many nuclear submarines, this case is special. The degree of risk depends on several factors, information on which is currently not available. For example, we are interested in what is the technical condition of the submarine; will reactors be involved during the voyage, will ships accompany the submarine that can help in the event of engine failure, will there be nuclear weapons on board.

    Can a reactor be involved in a boat? so it’s not April 1 to joke. Or they think that on diesels from Severodvinsk to St. Petersburg the boat will go
    Since it is used as an experimental one, it means that the technical condition is consistent. Nuclear weapons on board? Does it exist on Donskoy?

    Quote: Masya Masya
    In particular, environmentalists are going to send a note to the government of Norway, Sweden and Denmark, demanding that the submarine be prohibited from performing this maneuver.

    Deny? Which way? Yes, she will slip under your nose, you will not notice ... wink

    Well, this boat is unlikely to go underwater in the Baltic. And as for the note ??
    To be honest, I don’t quite understand the meaning of this Don campaign to the Baltic. We ourselves fought for the nuclear-free status of the Baltic and the Black Sea, so that there were no ships and boats with nuclear power plants in these seas, and we spit on it right away? Meaning?
    Even during the Olympics in Sochi, "Peter the Great" did not enter the Black Sea and carried out all his actions from the Aegean. It’s enough to break it once. Now we ourselves are violating the status, and then we will be indignant that an American nuclear carrier will come to Poland or the Baltic states for a visit? Unclear
    1. Topotun
      Topotun April 12 2017 10: 22
      0
      Yeah, the presence of "alien" ships in the Black Sea is also limited like. And the Americans are constantly hanging out, then their colleagues .... And as for the status, we drive our boat to our port. What problems? A visit to Poland by Amers - I have no doubt that if they need them, they will spit on all agreements.
    2. AID.S
      AID.S April 12 2017 12: 25
      0
      [quote = Stary26] We ourselves fought for the nuclear-free status of the Baltic and the Black Sea, so that there would be no ships and boats with nuclear power plants in these seas and spit on it right away? Sense? [/ Quote]
      [quote = Old26]
      The Baltic and Black Seas do not have the status of nuclear-free zones. Our one-sided “impulse” did not provoke any reaction among the “partners”. There was no sense in assuming these obligations, there is no sense in observing them .... especially in the current situation. We want to the salon "Donskoy" -so it will be so.
  13. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 12 2017 10: 09
    0
    Environmentalists are as timid as Wall Street investors.
  14. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg April 12 2017 10: 09
    0
    For this reason, you can load a couple of warheads ... I would even say NEED to load!
    1. jjj
      jjj April 12 2017 11: 06
      0
      Donskoy has only ONE working mine. It was equipped for testing "Clubs"
  15. Old26
    Old26 April 12 2017 10: 16
    +1
    Quote: Geisenberg
    For this reason, you can load a couple of warheads ... I would even say NEED to load!

    And have something to download? In bulk or how will you ship?
  16. Topotun
    Topotun April 12 2017 10: 19
    0
    I wonder what are the titles of these "ecologists"? TTX they are interested in ....
  17. Enoch
    Enoch April 12 2017 10: 39
    +1
    "For example, we are interested in the technical condition of the submarine; will the reactors be involved during the voyage?"
    As well as the names of the crew and positions. The reactors will be turned off - near Norway only on oars.
    1. Topotun
      Topotun April 12 2017 14: 25
      0
      The crew will swim ...
  18. Jblack
    Jblack April 12 2017 11: 02
    0
    Here it flogs them, we must also say ours. They say that all nuclear-powered aircraft carriers are against the environment, all the technical specifications are in the studio, and our ecologists learn everything, well, for the environment of course.
  19. behemot
    behemot April 12 2017 11: 15
    0
    I would highly recommend going to .... Norwegians in general, and Norwegian environmentalists in particular.
  20. shadow
    shadow April 12 2017 12: 17
    0
    Ocean will come out of the shores
  21. pts-m
    pts-m April 12 2017 12: 48
    0
    It may change the route. For the Volga-Baltic, miss that the norgs did not spoil the air of planet Earth.
  22. sub307
    sub307 April 12 2017 12: 51
    0
    "... will the reactors be involved during the voyage, ..." They’ll not drag it in tow ... they are all really sick descendants of the Vikings.
  23. Old26
    Old26 April 12 2017 16: 02
    0
    Quote: AID.S
    The Baltic and Black Seas do not have the status of nuclear-free zones. Our one-sided “impulse” did not provoke any reaction among the “partners”. There was no sense in assuming these obligations, there is no sense in observing them .... especially in the current situation. We want to the salon "Donskoy" -so it will be so.

    There is no official status, but all parties have a non-nuclear status. And here from a great desire to bring to the salon "Donskoy" this unofficial status can immediately be multiplied by zero. Over the past 3 decades, there have been no ships with nuclear power plants in the Baltic or the Black Sea. Now they will be. Both in the Black and the Baltic. Just because we wanted to see the Donskoy in St. Petersburg. Then we will swear for a long time and say that the adversary spits on everything and drives his ships with nuclear power plants into these seas.

    Quote: Topotun
    Yeah, the presence of "alien" ships in the Black Sea is also limited like. And the Americans are constantly hanging out, then their colleagues ....

    Do not confuse soft and warm. The presence of foreign ships (not Black Sea countries) is stipulated by the Straits Convention. And they can be 3 weeks in the Black Sea. If at the invitation of the Black Sea country - even more.
    But at the same time, over the past at least 3 decades, the rule has been tacitly observed not to have ships with nuclear power plants in the Black and Baltic Seas

    Quote: Topotun
    As for the status, we are moving our boat to our port. What problems? A visit to Poland by Amers - I have no doubt that if they need them, they will spit on all agreements.

    Yeah. According to existing contracts and agreements, we can distill the boat FOR REPAIR TO ZVAOD, where it was built.
    Amers visit to Poland? But so far there has been no case that they drove a ship with nuclear power plants to Poland. Now it will be easy. We ourselves violated these unspoken agreements
    1. evgesha
      evgesha April 13 2017 10: 22
      0
      distort, sir, distort! do not consider yourself smarter than others, do not revel, otherwise your fanabery oozes from every word
  24. Old26
    Old26 April 12 2017 16: 14
    0
    Quote: PTS-m
    Can change the route. Skip the Volga-Baltic

    941st project? In the Volga-Baltic? By the way, and where does the Volga-Baltic? But even according to the White Sea-Baltic - you are my friend a dreamer. Dizelyuks were transported to the Black Sea in floating docks, and you are this monster through the channels ??? Oh well
    1. Abel
      Abel April 17 2017 23: 03
      0
      Then by rail, vehicles will not stand
  25. evgesha
    evgesha April 13 2017 10: 17
    0
    some version of my answer to the worried eco-taxes (strongly with bills):
    We are concerned about this voyage.

    1. who is this “we”? The topic is not disclosed. floats .. but at sea, ships go.
    Despite the fact that along the coast of Norway there are many nuclear submarines, this case is special.

    2. and what is the case of "special"? the presence of the Russian flag?
    The degree of risk depends on several factors, information on which is currently not available.

    3. in your case, the degree of risk depends on the duration of taking and dosage of those medications that you, apparently, are taking without a doctor’s prescription.
    For example, we are interested in the technical condition of the submarine; ...

    4. The technical condition of the Russian submarine - everything looks like a cat's eggs!
    ... will the reactors be involved during the voyage ...

    5. Well, what can you do, sir !? exclusively on oars! our economy is "torn to shreds"!
    whether ships that can help in the event of engine failure

    6. what kind of engine? ahhhh, do you mean GEM (main power plant)? Well, of course! we always have a sailing repair boat floating (!), due to the reasons specified in clause 5
    will there be nuclear weapons on board.

    7. Yes, where does the “gas station country” have vigorous weapons? we replaced it for a long time with beads!
  26. Abel
    Abel April 17 2017 23: 02
    0
    : on a VM saloon with nuclear missiles? Soon they will be sued, p / L crushed herring