T-72B3 new modification at the rehearsal of the parade in Alabino

According to "Messenger of Mordovia”, 5 on April, during the rehearsal of the Victory Parade in Alabino, the modernized T-72B3 tank with additional protection was presented to the public.

There are two major improved modifications of the T-72B3. The first option, the so-called "biathlon" or T-72B3М, is distinguished by the presence of additional protection (lattice anti-cumulative screens, DZ "Relikt"), the Sosna-U all-day sight, the updated 2А46М-5-01 gun, which is also used, which is more than a problem, which also has a more than 100-template, more than 100; (92 hp instead of 2), modern communications.

A more simplified modification does not have, unlike the “biathlon” version of the panoramic sight, the “Relict” dynamic protection. They are easily distinguished from the classic T-72B3 by the presence of side screens. The first contract for the supply of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation of this modification tanks was concluded in 2015. It provides for a major overhaul with the modernization of 154 T-72B-type vehicles, bringing the T-72BZ to type with additional protection during 2015 - 2017. According to available information, the shipment of the contracted equipment began at the end of 2016. In March, tanks of this model were seen when they were received by the 8 Army of the Southern Military District.

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[Thrall]

“The Kremlin is preparing armored tanks for the capture of Lithuania” - headlines for tomorrow's Lithuanian newspapers

[Muvka]

Finally showed a new modification. And it was a lot of unbelievers ... :)

[Alexey-74]

Right! Russia is preparing, like the USSR, a tank breakthrough to the English Channel ....................

[RASKAT]

Excellent modification of the T-72 I'm glad.
And here is a couple of shots of equipment that lit up at the rehearsal of the parade.
Arctic air defense system Armor and Torah

[RASKAT]

Here is the passage of the technology of the 2017 parade
Damn something does not give well, whoever wants can look at the pens.

[MPK105]

Yeah ... Well ... Armata, they began to be safely buried, shouting honest all over the world ... But when we upgrade the T-34, you won’t tell me ... ?????????

[vovanpain]

Quote: MPK105

Yeah ... Well ... Armata, became-safely buried, buzzing the whole world honest ..

Lesha, sarcasm again? Armata is now in army trials and no one is going to bury it, well, unless they dream of bulk with Khodorkovsky.

Quote: MPK105

.A T-34 when we upgrade, do not tell me ... ?????????

And why should the T-34 be modernized at the monuments, they will be painted with new paint.

[MPK105]

Well, I can’t without sarcasm, reading news like

[vovanpain]

Quote: MPK105

Well, I can’t without sarcasm, reading news like

Yes, we understand, the same mockingbirds.

[Thrall]

Quote: MPK105

T-34 when we upgrade, do not tell me ...?

T-34 in some countries is still at war. So, early to upgrade it, be patient a little more

[i80186_]

Quote: Thrall

T-34 in some countries is still at war. So, early to upgrade it, be patient a little more

And in some countries this is what they are doing.

[venik]

Quote: MPK105

Armata, began to be safely buried, buzzing the whole world honest ...

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And where does "Armata"? "Armata" is generally a fundamentally new PLATFORM, on the basis of which it is planned to build up to 2 T-500 tanks .... But !! Firstly, this is when it will be ... So far it is known that 14 units were built in 2015. for testing. At the end of 20 - the serial production of an experimental batch of 2016 units began, for the military "break-in" and training personnel.
And secondly, 2.5 thousand pieces for Russia is not just a little, but VERY little! Whether it will be more money to build - is still unclear (the tank is NOT OF CHEAP !!!). So, the concept, in general, is clear - the T-14 is used “on the edge” of the strike and the most tank-dangerous directions and is covered by the good old T-72 / T-90 and T-80 ...
And then the 72nd of which there are more than one thousand pieces - WHERE TO DO ??? For scrapping ?? Will it be too "bold" ???

[MPK105]

Yes it was a cry of the soul, the namesake of the President It happens to me (men will confirm here) -Do not pay attention ...

[Vadim237]

It should also be borne in mind that the promised 2500 are Armata platforms, not tanks.

[venik]

Quote: Vadim237

It should also be borne in mind that the promised 2500 are Armata platforms, not tanks.

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No, it's like the T-14 !! But still LITTLE !!! All T-72, T-80 and T-90 - DO NOT REPLACE !!! Yes, probably, and DO NOT !!! But to have an “Armored fist” (with the support of by no means weak, albeit somewhat outdated cars), which few can resist (if you really can anyone!) - IT'S NOT WRONG !!!

[Alexey-74]

Absolutely agree!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: MPK105

Armata, they began to be safely buried, shouting honest to the whole world ... But when we upgrade the T-34, you won’t tell me ...

Duc ... and what to do? It is necessary to fight BTV on something, while “Armata” is brought to mind. The fundamentally new tank in the troops of the first years was horror-horror-horror. Plus, a long and tedious correspondence between the plant and the army team, which on the one hand inquires - that the designers and factory workers smoked, having made some tricky knot, which is nicht arbayten in the field, and from the inside they can’t get to it, but on the other they ask why the hell did “qualified” crews and technicians not read the instructions and try to operate the equipment in unintended modes with unforeseen service (if this is translated into censorship).
And, EMNIP, Armata was not planned as an MBT - it is a tank of high-quality amplification.
I’m interested in another thing: what garden plant the hole in the forehead of the T-72B3 tower of the new model was half closed: on the one side they put a DZ, and on the other - bare steel and a nanobarz?
Okay, the original T-72B3 - it was made from the calculation "quickly, quickly, many, many - otherwise tomorrow we have a resource of Soviet yok tanks, and all BTVs will walk"But now, having riveted as many as a thousand T-72B3s and" satisfying the hunger "of the BTV, could all the complaints about the old one be eliminated in his new model?

[MPK105]

I always read you with pleasure, everything about the case, in detail, in detail ... Write more often ... For amateurs ... Like me

[Alexey-74]

The unsuccessful designer caught .........

[Nehist]

Oh how well characterized T-14 !!! According to reports from the troops, the tank is difficult to operate, there are many minor flaws, so they’ll bring them to mind for another 10 years In general, the army team is not happy, a heavy sau could be simpler and cheaper to do ....

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Nehist

Oh how well characterized T-14 !!!

Chihiks ... in fact, I gave a brief summary of the correspondence on the development of the T-34 and KV troops.
Just a fundamentally new technology in the army usually at first raises the same questions. And the meaning of the correspondence does not change from what the army received - T-34, T-64 or Armata.

[venik]

Quote: Alexey RA

Okay, the original T-72B3 - it was made at the rate of "fast, fast, many, many - otherwise tomorrow we have the resource of Soviet yok tanks, and all BTVs will go on foot." But now, having riveted as many as a thousand T-72B3s and “satisfying the hunger” of BTVs, could all the complaints about the old one be eliminated in his new model?

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You also forgot about Slingshot ... If it’s true that she has already joined the troops, then OY! For all that, according to the TTX complex, it doesn’t surpass either “abrash” or “modeling”, but with a well-trained crew it can easily “pile” on it “I can’t” itself, so that “it won’t seem a little” .. ...

[Alexey-74]

Why did you forget? She is now being tested at full speed. About "Armata" I think we will hear a year from 1,5-2

[activator]

And that this year there will not be an armada parade? something is not mentioned about her.

[Sergey Ui]

https://youtu.be/ysdVIvwzFTA

[Sergey Ui]

Will armata

[Vadim237]

Something not a single MLRS, there is no rehearsal.

[kolkulon]

If they start up after b3 t90e, without armature, it will be clowning in general.

[Coconut]

after reading the media of Ukraine and Russia over the past 5 years on the territory of Russia about 8 ..9 thousand T-72s do not write anything about the modification ... even if these tanks shoot shit .. the Baltic countries do not shine anything good ..)))

[Mike2388]

Does he have the same protection on board as on the T 90 MS or what? It’s a pity they didn’t do it right away. And then the first T72B3 turned liquidy ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Mike2388

It’s a pity they didn’t do it right away. And then the first T72B3 turned liquidy ...

So the first T-72B3 did, driving the tank into two Procrustean beds. Firstly, after UVZ raised the cost of the new T-90 by almost 70% over the year, the Moscow Region set a condition: during modernization, it was necessary to keep within 52 million per tank at any cost. Secondly, the same MO demanded to increase the production of tanks threefold - up to 180-200 vehicles a year. And so it turned out a budget mass tank to replace the Soviet-made T-72A / B, which was driven in the tail and mane without replacement from the time of the Tagged.

[kolkulon]

Although if the three Pak-fa are allowed, I will close my eyes to the passage of retrotechnics.

[pepel79]

Opachki, the tank received additional protection for the sides of the tower, in the form of dynamic protection designed for lightly armored vehicles ...

[Brod9iga25]

If you click on the link to the source of the material, you’ll read that the reactive armor is installed in the so-called soft case, I think due to the fact that these units are installed in the back of the turret, this is a goal that would not damage rear infantry.,

[gabonskijfront]

C-class, budget option. Real boys do not fight on such.

[Mike2388]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: Mike2388

It’s a pity they didn’t do it right away. And then the first T72B3 turned liquidy ...

So the first T-72B3 did, driving the tank into two Procrustean beds. Firstly, after UVZ raised the cost of the new T-90 by almost 70% over the year, the Moscow Region set a condition: during modernization, it was necessary to keep within 52 million per tank at any cost. Secondly, the same MO demanded to increase the production of tanks threefold - up to 180-200 vehicles a year. And so it turned out a budget mass tank to replace the Soviet-made T-72A / B, which was driven in the tail and mane without replacement from the time of the Tagged.

Yes, I thought so too. But nothing seems to have changed. 90 did not fall in price especially. The military probably got even less money. They have a decline in production or something, free hands appeared and became generous on the screens? It seems that they quickly understood the defectiveness of the first B3 and then these: "Well, all the guys, not only serve conscripts on these tanks, maybe they will go to battle, let's have screens and a panorama (Syrian experience)."

[Muvka]

And where does the experience of Syria? An order for them was issued in 2015. And before the order there was still some development time.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Mike2388

The military probably got even less money. They have a decline in production or something, free hands appeared and became generous on the screens? It seems that they quickly understood the defectiveness of the first B3 and then these: "Well, all the guys, not only serve conscripts on these tanks, maybe they will go to battle, let's have screens and a panorama (Syrian experience)."

So according to the shortcomings of the T-72B3, everything was clear from the beginning.
Just at the time of the decision on the initial T-72B3, the situation was such that almost the entire fleet of BTTs needed to be replaced - and this was about 2-2,5 thousand cars. New cars then came in the amount of 65 units per year. Therefore, they chose the cheapest and easiest upgrade option: the new tank was supposed to be better than the most massive army tank - T-72A / B.
After several years of production of the T-72B3 in the basic configuration, the "tank crisis" was eliminated - and one could think about reducing the number of purchased vehicles with increasing their level. Because the reference level has changed: the new mass tank and the base for comparison were not T-72A / B, as before, but the base T-72B3 - in mid-2016 they were already released about 1000 pieces.

[Mike2388]

Quote: Muvka

And where does the experience of Syria? An order for them was issued in 2015. And before the order there was still some development time.

Despite the fact that those tanks that received this order earlier, differed from these for the worse. Read the article.

[Muvka]

This you read:
"They can be easily distinguished from the classic T-72B3 by the presence of side screens. The first contract for the supply of the Russian Ministry of Defense with this modification of tanks was concluded in 2015."
And I read about this modification in January 2016.

[Mike2388]

What is it classic? He appeared in 2014, has already become a classic ? This is the same repair - the modernization of the existing 72B to the B3 level, made due to the inability to purchase T 90. And how many contracts there were signed for this business does not change the essence. This is the same program.

[Muvka]

AND? What is the problem? At 2 years old, the classic B3 was produced (14-15 years), now a newer modification is available, from the end of 15, the beginning of 16. What's wrong? And what does the Syrian experience have to do with it, I strongly do not understand. And I’ll tell you a secret, they put lattices on tanks for a very long time.

[Mike2388]

This “modification of the B3 of the 16th year, the modification of the B3 of the 14th year of the modification of the 72B ...” with the same success could be bought in the 14th year. ALL of these stray are already there. And these are very useful pribludy. Are they raising the price so much? Maybe you know? So I ask why, then, they bought 2 years of govnomodifikatsiya B3 14 years, which can not be allowed into battle. Purely for slaughter conscripts? Enlighten pliz "in secret" you are our specialist in gratings.

[Muvka]

Yes. They significantly increase the price, because the Relic - not Contact, dviglo on 1130 horses - not dviglo on 840 horses, etc. Everything is different there from the first modification - a gun from the T-90, electronics, communications, sights, SLAs, even more advanced tracks. And because the tank is more expensive.

[Mike2388]

How much? 52 lama cost 3 B2014. How much does this one cost? Where did the money come from, which "was not" in 2014? If it is so expensive, can it make sense to buy 90?

[Muvka]

Almost 80 million. More than one and a half times.

[Stabilization]

I dare to repeat your text dear colleague Muvka) ...
“Just at the time of the decision on the original T-72B3, the situation was such that almost the entire BTT fleet required replacement - and this was about 2-2,5 thousand cars. New machines then came in the amount of 65 units per year. Therefore, we chose the cheapest and the easiest upgrade option: the new tank was supposed to be better than the most massive army tank - T-72A / B.
After several years of production of the T-72B3 in the basic configuration, the "tank crisis" was eliminated - and one could think about reducing the number of purchased vehicles with increasing their level. Because the reference level has changed: the new mass tank and the base for comparison were not T-72A / B, as before, but the base T-72B3 - in the middle of 2016 they were already released about 1000 pieces. "

[Mike2388]

Did anyone else know about the tank crisis for 2014? More like an excuse. The army had 350 T-90 / T-90A, another 200 units in storage and 450 T-80BV and T-80U, (3000 T-80B, T-80BV, T-80U in storage). I do not see a crisis here if the T-90s are in storage. In addition, the army has 1100 T-72B and T-72BA and 7000 T-72, T-72A and T-72B in storage without taking into account the modifications of the 3 B2014 1000 + 32 new B3 units. So they have so far redone only 9 of the fleet 72 and the base is still T-72 modifications, A, B and BA and not B3. Releasing B3 2014 for only 3 years, they finally caught on and stopped ripping crap. "Cool" modification. Machines on the conveyor stand for 5-7 years. More like an obser rather than a crisis.

[pepel79]

Given the complete removal of the jet from the RPG-26 (penetration 460 mm. + 50 mm. (Approximately ... to destroy the internal units and the crew itself)), taking into account the side of the tank turret 70-85 mm., The resistance to single-block cumulative ammunition will increase by compared with the base model up to 600 mm ... this is an indicator ...

[pepel79]

Quote: Brod9iga25

If you click on the link to the source of the material, you’ll read that the reactive armor is installed in the so-called soft case, I think due to the fact that these units are installed in the back of the turret, this is a goal that would not damage rear infantry.,

[pepel79]

type of protection bmpt terminator?

[pepel79]

Quote: pepel79

Given the complete removal of the jet from the RPG-26 (penetration 460 mm. + 50 mm. (Approximately ... to destroy the internal units and the crew itself)), taking into account the side of the tank turret 70-85 mm., The resistance to single-block cumulative ammunition will increase by compared with the base model up to 600 mm ... this is an indicator ...

This is me about the additional protection described above ...

[Shark Lover]

And I remember T 72, I don’t know what modification, Soviet still, in the year 90, probably. Himself not a tanker, it so happened, room 1 of the reconnaissance company in the ORB. In the company, a tank platoon, a battalion had already been castrated (times went back then), the t-62s were in service, and there were no tankers. An order came to rearm on the t-72. 62 = e were removed from storage and marching for loading, about 150 km, by levers and two soldiers, mechanized water vehicles BMP. We got all three! Through two passes, the only one, the thumb on my right hand quickly knocked out, stuck in the 1st, sometimes the back one, and a little repair on the way, we repaired it with a nail, the cotter pin flew out on the pull.
Then get the 72nd, on the basis of storage, 300 kilometers of march. Himself for leverage and go. One word is THING !!! So I parted, a tank road along the Kazakhstan route, loaded scows, Kamazs, they just sniffed the dust behind me, poor Kazakh drivers, then we went in formation, looked at this miracle.
He heated a couple of times, the water from the canal and the bucket, on the radiator shutters, from the fans, the fountain and could not understand how the fuel tanks switch. By the way, then he loaded them with shells, nothing, a book between the hatches on the tower and forward, everything was loaded. The only thing in the park, when loading, was putting the car with a gun in the mountains, you never know, I’ll press it in the wrong direction, it’s banging again)))). That's how I met BAT)))

[proud]

Nice to see!

[zloybond]

Every year, thousands of soldiers are engaged in exotic activities - they train the Prussian step ....... every year a lot of time is killed instead of useful training grounds for crushing paving stones, developing motor resources, step training, gymnastics, tank ballets ...
You just need an annual march in Europe. We drove, aired, recalled the fate of the fascist homosexuals to the new euro homosexuals. And again, a year at firing ranges and firing. Again, again on May 9, a march in Europe .... And
all this ....... HZ.

[Stabilization]

Mike2388,
Well, that is, do you think that your speculation is somehow better than the rest? And what is the reason for this?))