Results of the week. “And this mustache Holsteiner is preparing a bad present for our Tsar!”

Anti-scrappy agreement

The American media reacted violently to the statement by Serbian Minister of Defense Zoran Djordjevic about the beginning of the “pre-armament” stage of the Serbian army in the framework of an agreement with the Russian Federation. To begin with, it should be noted that the direct implementation of the agreement between Moscow and Belgrade, according to Djordjevic, began after the visit of the head of the Serbian Cabinet of Ministers, Alexander Vucic, to Moscow.

What Russian gift to Serbia does not allow NATO to concentrate on the Balkans

And as information about the fact that Russian MiG-29 will be delivered to Serbia, armored vehicles together with Russian technical service specialists provoke Western “friends”. The cry was raised, oh-oh ... They say: "Green men are coming! What if they decide to “repair” the equipment not only in Serbia, but also in Croatia, Slovenia, Kosovo, etc. And there is not far to the referendum on the reunification of the republics of Yugoslavia. ” And at the word “referendum” after the Crimea and Brekzit, NATO manifests all chronic diseases that are increasingly aggravated at each new stage of expansion.

Comments from our readers:

Astart

The Serbian leadership is not trying to “sit on two chairs,” but proceeds from the real situation. Serbia is indeed surrounded by NATO countries and US military bases. But at the same time, she does not forget that she is a Slavic, Orthodox country, and this is worth a lot when other countries try to forget about it faster. And Russia has not always behaved ideally towards the Serbs.
To locate the Russian base, even a small one, in the center of Europe, and even with missile defense elements, is like a stick to poke into an anthill. Let the Europeans themselves feel what it is. And Russia will "give explanations" that the base does not threaten stability, but, on the contrary, protects against missile and terrorist threats.

rotmistr60

Silent or loud, but the fuss in this region will continue. The United States will do everything in its power to put a spoke in the wheels of the resumption of our country's relations with Serbia, and even more so the presence of our military experts.

ksv36

And about our air defense in Serbia, we will say that we will defend the geyrop against Iranian missiles))).

Rally in shorts

The so-called "dissenters" led by Navalny held rallies called anti-corruption. The leaders of the regional "cells" of the Navalny headquarters, using the practice of appeals on social networks tested at similar events held earlier, brought the youngsters to the streets of Russian cities. In Moscow, St. Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Vladivostok, Voronezh, Chelyabinsk and other cities.

Navalnovskie rallies "against Medvedev and corruption" passed around the country
Bulk and his friends
The President commented on the meetings Navalny

It is not clear, this is Dmitriy-svet Anatolyevich, thus prepared for the discharge to increase electoral support. Do you know who? Or is it still the fifth, sixth and other columns, using the lollipop chups and iPhones, decided to do the same smashing blow to the solar plexus of Mother Russia? .. By the way, Dmitry Anatolyevich did not file a lawsuit for slander, says, ride and norms ... Is he ready to fall victim to the iPhone rallies, which Twitter and Facebook followers follow, the main Internet star (well, after Kadyrov, of course) of the Russian political Olympus? ..

Comments from our readers:

Thrall

We must take care of Navalny, this is an ideal “decoy duck”, onto which Western sponsors and internal slag float under the watchful eyes of the special services.

Orionvit

Yes, in Navalny there is so much dirt and dirt, you will not find a clean place. I am amazed at Western curators from the special services, is it really impossible to find a more "decent" one? Or think that for huge money, you can do everything in Ukraine?

Rich

It was rightly done that (the president) commented, rather than cast a veil of silence on these meetings. He expressed his opinion, and quite understandable.

Is this sort of optimization? ..

Over the past month, Western media have been actively discussing Russia's military spending on the 2017 year. It is about reducing costs by as much as 27% compared to 2016 year - with 3,89 trillion. rubles to 2,84 trillion In the future, in 2018 and 2019, the budget will be more stable - 2,73 trillion. and 2,82 trillion rubles, respectively. Interestingly, the three-year budget of Russia was adopted as early as 2016, however, it was only now that they began to actively discuss its indicators.

The conspiracy of silence: what leads to a reduction in Russian defense spending by 27%?

This can hardly be called silence, since the document “hung” for a long time on the website of the State Duma and was rather actively discussed. Another thing is that any reduction in the financing of strategically important industries has always caused and will cause popular anger - as far as this is clear, this is right.

Another issue is the effectiveness of spending these more than impressive amounts. If individual officials seriously believe that a cruiser can be built “at any time”, but for now it is better to equip soldiers' tableware with devices for reading fingerprint data or to purchase a license to operate the kitchen in / h (with a personal car for the chef) - all together cost to the budget of a small locality, then, as they say, without comment ...

Comments from our readers:

fa2998

In our country, everything is turned upside down! We must first deal with the economy, achieve growth rates, but at least similar as in China, and only then with this money it is necessary to reform the army.
And now, with a miserable economy, we’ve looked at the pants too expensive. As for the military, as it was said in the Soviet Charter, "enduringly enduring all the burdens ..." I think this reduction will not affect salaries - serve on the available equipment. Especially in recent years a lot of modernized and new equipment has been supplied to the army.
Of course, many are dissatisfied, but at a bad state budget, it’s stupid to send everything to the army. The country has many other expenses. Although many "freeloaders" (in the field of government), I would reduce and would gladly give to the military, retirees and others.

Boris55

Somewhere I have already heard it ... oh, yes, I remembered - on TV Yavlinsky's chicks about this, all ears burned, like not strengthening the figs of defense, let the teachers with doctors raise their salaries and put a new asphalt road where they don’t fall ...

Olgovich

But Russian sources:
"The military budget of Russia in 2017 will be 2870 billion rubles, which is 6% less than in 2016, taking into account inflation. It is worth noting the existence of so-called secret, secret articles in the budget. In the defense sphere, 800 billion is planned for such an article."

How to us to repair "Kuzyu"

Not so long ago, the only Russian aircraft cruiser Admiral returned from his military campaign fleet Soviet Union Kuznetsov. " In accordance with previously drawn up plans, now the ship should go on repair and modernization.

Repair of Admiral Kuznetsov: news and assumptions

The only Russian aircraft carrier is there, but the command doesn’t have any thoughts on what specifically to do with it? It seems that the tasks off the coast of Syria are completed, for which the crew thanks a lot. At the same time, there was still no intelligible and reasoned explanation of whether it was an aircraft carrier that was needed off the coast of Syria. The only explanation available is to clarify the parameters of the “run,” that is, how much “Admiral Kuznetsov” in its present state is enough. The clarification probably took place, and therefore 20 billion were drawn, which will be required to restore full working capacity and carry out all modernization works. But with the final appointment while neponyatki. Although neponyatki not new, for there were earlier - for example, in relation to "Mistral", the likely role of which in the composition of the Russian Navy is not defined even by those who insisted on their mandatory acquisition.

Comments from our readers:

Wiruz

So what do we have? First of all, it is worth noting that even at the very top of the Navy and the military-industrial complex, no one knows what the aircraft carrier repair itself will represent (and, maybe, it knows, but it cannot say).
The type of the power plant (read - "Achilles heel") nobody will change the ship. How was the boiler-turbine, so it will remain so. Is that part of the boiler will change. All our projects for the installation of GTE or YASU will remain only on the pages of the Internet.
It may be replaced part of the weapons of the ship. The probability of replacing the "Kortikov" by "Pantsiri-M" is 146% (purely intuitively). Maybe "Daggers" will be replaced by "Tor-M" (with the name still misunderstood), if, of course, finish it by that time. I would like to replace the RBU, but nothing. Installing "Package-NK" is doubtful, as for me.
"Granites" promise to remove. Great! "Calibers" promise to deliver. Pechalka.
Electromagnetic catapult no one, of course, will not deliver. I generally doubt that it is.
There are practically no changes on the wing. Although I, with my amateur bell tower, do not see any obstacles for the basing on the cruiser of the sea variation of the PAK FA. She, as it were, is not at all, but there were plans. But let's not go ahead.
Well, I can’t say anything about the replacement of the onboard equipment and radar systems.

Eventually. Is it possible to complete this entire amount of work in two years? Theoretically, yes! Practically ... Well, we are all adults here, we understand that the dates will shift to the right repeatedly. This is what we have in the Russian Navy tradition.

Vpk72

All the big Soviet ships simply rotted without affecting anything.
Just gobbled up the money, unlike, for example, from the Premier League. Russia has no problems on the use of aircraft carriers. The experience of the Syrian campaign is perfectly demonstrated. We need a rejection of large military ships - only transport, supplies, etc.
A large number of 500-2500 toned SAR (vessel with outriggers - to maintain seaworthiness with a small size and unification when building ships of different types and purposes)
emphasis on exploration, communications, helicopters. The protection of the economic zone - already due to this, such a fleet pays off. In our waters everybody feels fishing.

Kenneth

Fleet on self-sufficiency? That you came up with cool. And you can still issue letters of marque.

About T-72B3 new modification

Reuters published a video footage of “dozens of modern tanksarriving at the Pokrovskoye railway station in the Rostov Region. ”

In the newly created 8 th army profits T-72B3 new modification

Faster than others on news reacted Ukrainian media. Particular emphasis was placed on the fact that "at the borders of Ukraine." The rest of the Ukrainian "interested public" was no longer interested, because pictures of the offensive of Russian tank "armadas" were painted in the mind (and even, like in yesterday's April Fools' report, "Armat") in the direction of Mariupol-Berdyansk-Kherson .. The fact that the tank “offensive of Russia” can be stopped by the great European embankment of Arseniy Yatsenyuk, why didn’t you remember, like about the billions of hryvnas buried in its “erection” ...

But seriously, that the new modification of the T-72B3 is really impressive, according to the sources describing its characteristics. Even such, as the modern youth says, “trick”, like slanting lugs of the tracked belts for better cleanability - a good gift for the crew.

Comments from our readers:

Zibelew

T72B3M. Finally, they made a normal defense of the sides, which had not happened since the start of the installation of Kontakt-5 on tanks, and at the same time, at last, mastered the production of the folding block dz, which took so many years. Well, sort of like they say that the engine is new. In general, taking into account all the advantages of a conventional B3, this is the first serial modernization of the T-72 in Russia, for which it is not a shame.

RASKAT

Great modification.
The sides covered DZ Relikt, (MTO with crate, it was just unloaded in its crate in the boxes). The new B-92C2F engine (1130 hp) with the systems ensuring its operation; display complex of the driver and television rear view camera; a steering wheel was installed instead of levers at a mechanical drive, tracked belts with oblique lugs and drive wheels with improved cleanability. The new gun type 2А46М-5-01, the mechanism for loading under the new ammunition, new display from the commander and gunner. New SOU with capture and tracking.

Mole

Well, not that for ourselves: after all, we were able to hang a couple of DZ blocks to the left of the gun to cover the "bald spot" in the tower, which remained uncovered. Still, there are shifts in eliminating the weak points of the B3.

More effective managers, good and different

Interfax-AVN reported that due to delays in the development of the Almaz Antey aerospace defense group of development work, the delivery terms for the Admiral of the Soviet Navy Gorshkov and Admiral Makarov frigates are under threat.

Regular problems of the Russian military-industrial complex: air defense system for new frigates
Everything is in Russian: there is no money, but there is effective management

No, well, this is true retrograde and obscurantism - not to appreciate effective managers, who, having three or four diplomas of distance higher education and passing courses in management philosophy, get out of their way to make the life of enterprises better. Who carry out a personality-oriented approach to each engineer and mechanic, explaining that his 18-20 thousand rubles per month is an economically verified management decision. Well, the fact that development work is under threat is the intrigue of the imperialists, with whom an effective manager is called upon to fight for 180-200 thousands of rubles a month only with bonus ...

Comments from our readers:

Starover_Z

Masterpiece of course!
I remembered the film "Height", although there, too, it turns out the "work" of the tops through excuses, and the hard workers risk their lives!
This again suggests that the management of the enterprises should be put professionals, and not defective menagerov (read sellers)!

astronom1973n

We say one thing and do another! We reduce the staff under the pretext of increasing salaries, and in fact we increase the functionality of employees and the salaries of managers. Revenues are important! So it became fashionable!

Sibiralt

There is almost a classical scheme of business income: 1 rupture for the one who came up with it, 10 for those who embodied the idea in metal, and 100 for the one who sold the finished product. Who do you think “effective managers” work for? That's right, on those who sell. At the forum, fists pounded against the reduction of the defense budget. But the matter is not in its money supply, but where it really goes, i.e. in the distribution structure. How much of it goes to production and development, and how much to the crowd of stupid and greedy managers and manage them? Sorry, no such open data. But for all the obviousness of an incapable power, conclusions can already be drawn.

And where Svidomo enthusiasm?

Representatives of the Ukrainian armed forces and mercenary units against the background of the latest aggravation of the situation in the Donbass publish on social networks statements about "how to fight with Russia." Separate carriers of such "important information" as a tribune are provided by the Ukrainian media.

Recipes "victory over Russia" from Ukrainians
In the APU began unrest. There are massive cases of desertion.
Nazi Ukraine

Recipes of victory over Russia have undergone a significant metamorphosis. In March, 2014 started everything with the promises of a parade in Sevastopol, then in Rostov, and then in Moscow. However, further - continuous regression. Well, what is the recipe for this - to cut off Russia from SWIFT or impose new sanctions on Surkov? Somehow, it’s not at all tatty and disgraceful ... Has Balakley ever done its “firework” business, and the Ukrainian army, which, as we know, even “nuclear shelling” in the Luhansk region, is being blown away ... Even painted tanks don’t add enthusiasm ?

Comments from our readers:

Monos

Myzdobula, write down the recipe for victory: smartphone, facebook and unlimited internet. Fsyo !!!

Laurus

Ukraine is anything but a fascist state. Fascism is not only a cannibal ideology, it is also a strengthening of the economy, it is a scientific and technical progress. In Ukraine, the degradation of everything and everything. In Ukraine - the criminal-oligarchic dictatorship, sharpened for personal enrichment at the expense of his country and his people.
The presence of the fascists does not prove anything - they are everywhere, in Russia, in the USA, and even in Mongolia. Ukrainian criminals in power use the fascists as cannon fodder, no more.

san4es

The band on the helmets should be updated more often, but brighter - you can see better in optics.

Sale

The Government of Ukraine is preparing the Atlant, a 1164 cruiser, for sale after removing weapons to pay off debts to the state enterprise Zavod im. 61 Communard.

Ukraine sells "Ukraine"?
“We don’t need such a“ Ukraine ”

It is strange that every time this kind of news is perceived by many as something extraordinary. What kind of extraordinaryness can we talk about when the sale of the whole of Ukraine has long assumed a total character - the most tidbits of state assets are dispersed in the pockets of oligarchs or have gone into a free offshore voyage (even more so because it does not interfere with one another).

By the way, were we much better at one time? - when all that remained was to watch over the privatization and rejoice at the distribution of “vouchers” from Anatoly Borisovich. But he is still “our everything”, still a business “flagship”. Moved from mega to nano, and already there continues to "make Russia strong." So in Ukraine there are enough of their own "flagships".

Comments from our readers:

Red_Hamer

They soon, and the entire gas transportation system, starting with the main gas pipelines, will go in the same direction. And when the warehouses of the army stop exploding, they will collect scrap metal in the surrounding fields! Then the case for the chernozem will go, Europe needs it. And at the expense of the soul, so it was driven first of all, for the cookies. So this cruiser is a small fraction of what Ukraine sold out.

izya top

Petsya sells Ukraine ... how do you call a yacht ...

TRex

Shipyard workers hang noodles on the ears. "There is a body and turbines, they are in demand." Who are they in demand? For which apparatus can you attach turbines that are installed 25 years ago? When they last turned? And the body? Only for scrap metal and that, and another ... It's a shame, shame ... well, okay.

Volzhanin

If you count how many ships are ruined by Yeltsinoids, so this "Ukraine" was not even standing next to it. Tell us better about the whole fleets of the dog that went under the tail during the Gorbachev-Yeltsin period.

Bearded blackmailers

The other day in Syria the Tabka, the largest dam in the country on the Euphrates, was partially destroyed. The dam has suffered because of the fighting between the detachments of the coalition "Democratic Forces of Syria" and the terrorists of the "Islamic State" ("IG", the group is banned in Russia).

The local hydroelectric station was built at the beginning of the 1970-ies with the assistance of specialists from the USSR. The Tabka is holding back the El-Asad reservoir. According to the channel, the power plant stopped working because the control point was disabled. The reason for the failure of the control point could be shelling or airstrike. As for technical specialists, they cannot get to the object: intense fighting continues in the area.

Fifteen days before Raqqi's entourage

The Pravda.Ru website observer Said Gafurov points out that IG militants are blackmailing Bashar al-Assad with the fact that they will blow up the dam. The consequences of such an explosion can be terrible. No one can accurately calculate them, because not one main dam can blow up, but also small dams located downstream (both in Syria and in Iraq). According to the observer, the explosion of one big dam will already completely destroy Rakka and Dayr al-Zaur. In addition, part of Iraq will suffer: it will wash Baghdad into Basra’s sea, and Baghdad will probably suffer.

There is also an assessment of potential victims: they can exceed 20 million people.

Comments from our readers:

St Petrov

It will be necessary - once again build, only Russia already. In the Russian Federation, not only nuclear power plants stand on flow, hydroelectric power stations are also being built in several points of the country. Yes, and there seems to be overseas contracts. And so it will be necessary to rebuild Syria. Here are the contracts and large sums.

210ox

Build something to build ... Only at whose expense ... The Syrians have no money, we, of course, will help, as has happened more than once ... But it would be nice to withdraw the money for the restoration of those who feed on the barley boys ... That Washington screamed ...

Stirbjorn

"That's why Bashar al-Asad went to the damage to the reputation of the Syrian command and refused to storm Rakka: he could not take responsibility for so many potential victims."
Therefore, it will take the Kurds with the support of the Americans. The reason is trivial: the Americans threw Kurds on helicopters, and they simply blocked the path of the Assad army to Raqqa, as Assad himself blocked the path to the Raqqa for the Turks not so long ago.

Where is the droushka?

According to the internet portal newinform.com, during a survey by government forces in the liberated areas of the eastern part of the province of Aleppo, the fighters discovered regular caches of “IG” militants. Three terrorists used the shelters as hiding places and temporary female prisons. Huge reserves were found in them weapons and American-made ammunition. It is possible that this weaponry was captured by the IS from the so-called “moderate opposition”, with which the US is providing material and technical support.

Cache ISIS discovered with huge stocks of American weapons

Recall that in January 2017 by engineers of the Syrian government forces discovered a warehouse with weapons from the US of the Jaysh al-Fatah group (banned in the Russian Federation).

Comments from our readers:

volot-voin

Somehow not at all surprised. Whose brainchild and weapon?

cniza

Yes, and the United States is not much disguised, they will argue that the opposition has supplied, or rather, they will not argue.

79807420129

Yes, they are like water off a duck, they say one thing, they think another, they do the exact opposite. The main headquarters of terrorism on the planet is located in the Pentagon.

Observer2014

This is clear from 80's. That the United States is the main headquarters of terrorism.

"Sharp bewilderment"

“Recently seemingly almost cloudless relations between Russia and Israel were overshadowed by the attack aviation of this country to Syrian sites located 70 km from Palmyra, writes Viktor Krestyaninov ("Argumenty.ru"). - At the end of last week, the Israeli Air Force attacked the Tifor airbase controlled by the Syrian army (other names are Tiyas, or T4). In Russia, these unexpected actions caused, to put it mildly, a sharp bewilderment. The fact is that the base Т4 has recently been the advanced line of defense against ISIS terrorists (an organization banned in the Russian Federation) — surely there are Russian helicopters, military advisers and special forces there. Their lives were endangered, contrary to formal and informal arrangements with Jerusalem. Many observers in Moscow saw in these actions the echoes of the new international policy of Donald Trump, which the United States itself formulated with one phrase: “Escalation for the sake of de-escalation”.

Moscow closes the sky over Syria

Before the air strike, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu visited Moscow, where 9 met with Putin in March, a columnist reminds. It is believed that the first tried to persuade the second to stop the attack in Syria. There is an opinion that the results of the negotiations were negative. Then the leader of the Jewish state decided to confront and demonstrated the power of the weapon.

But this time Syria did not, as it was before, ignore the attack. On four Israeli planes were released "from two to three outdated, but quite combat-ready missiles complex C-200." In addition, the Israeli ambassador in Moscow was summoned to the carpet at the Russian Foreign Ministry, where they were given a strict warning.

Comments from our readers:

rich

Moscow will not tolerate any bombing of bases with Russian troops. Not from Israel, not from America, not even from Papua New Guinea.

Stas157

“Moreover, Moscow will not tolerate any bombing of bases with Russian troops. The position is quite clear and understandable. ”
A strange statement made after the attack of Israeli aircraft on the base T4, where the Russian military! Such statements should be made after the destruction of these aircraft, and not before. In memory, such statements were made after the Turks brought down our Su-24, for which there was no answer. But there were loud statements and deliveries to Syria of the world's best C-400 complexes. And what do we see as a result? Again the same old picture! In Syria, fly all and sundry! Even Turkish planes! And the Israeli so all bombed our military experts! Russia, again, as before, threatens only with a cam and makes formidable statements, and nothing more!

sergey1971

In the sky over Syria, in addition to Israeli aircraft, which bomb only the warehouses of Hezbollah exclusively, so, in the sky over Syria, there are airplanes of Russia, America, France, Australia, Canada and other so-called coalitions that bomb at all not Hezbollah, and other Syrian factions. Israel does not bomb any of them, beside Hezbollah. Why do you make claims only to Israel? And stop deceiving, not a single Russian soldier at the hands of Israeli aviation suffered either now or before. That this did not happen, and Bibi Netanyahu goes to Moscow, so that there are no misunderstandings and any misunderstandings.

Tanks are not afraid of dirt?

The observer R. Skomorokhov analyzed the problems of Europe. They are familiar to the Russians: fools and roads. “But let's talk about the new [problem], namely about the new sleeping pill for Europe,” the author writes. “In the sense that the Europeans can sleep with now.” About the American Panzer Division.

Here it is: 17 000 personnel. 290 tanks "Abrams". 330 units BMP and BRM "Bradley" plus 348 armored personnel carriers (М113). In addition, 24 installations MLRS, 24 mobile SAM "Avenger", 50 helicopters "Apache", 30 "Black Hawk", 54 "Kiowa" and 12 EW helicopters. As anti-tank weapons 60 units "Tou", 312 ATGM "Dragon".

Tricky comments. Europe now has three problems: fools, roads and a tank division

According to the observer, in wartime “unequivocally” there is no sense from the American tank division: these are “tanks that are not particularly suitable for this theater of operations”. In addition, repair companies are "overseas".

In peacetime - a great sense. Trump likes Europe to pay for everything. The American cars on the bases “will bring a good income” to the American treasury.

Comments from our readers:

ramzes1776

Now there are so many anti-tank weapons that the number of tanks makes absolutely no difference. The number of helicopters in the division was impressive. In Soviet times we didn’t have that much in the division, and now there will not be so much for the army. And only one "Apache" platoon of tanks can destroy without entering the zone of military air defense.

siberalt

Roman full respect! According to the journalist, the genre is sustained on all 5. But we will reject statistics and quite reasonable long reasonings. But what remains in the spin? And it remains purely business. And it lies in the fact that someone (it is understandable) needs to shake off the already unnecessary armored fuel to the countries designated by the outcasts of the West by their "friends" and enemies of Russia. But the trouble is that all this is in quotes, and not in real life. As a result, countries with the assigned role of licking the boot to the owner for ephemeral brilli in the form of looking at Europe without binoculars will be left with only one quote.

Ararat

In the US Army, 15 has not been using the ATGM Dragon for more than 10 years. The army and the KMP are all transferred to Javelin and Tow 2 Saber. I understand that the author loves tanks very much, but how does he propose to bring 10,000 tanks to combat readiness, transport them to the front, refuel, arm and send them into battle? Secondly, the author has forgotten that Europe in aggregate has more lethal devices. How will Russia protect all this armada from the air? One division is an excuse to escalate the whole situation, and help will come later.

Three billion per barrel!

Having considered the petition of Russia to consider the lawsuit against Ukraine, the High Court of London made a decision according to which Ukraine is obliged to pay the nominal value of Eurobonds (3 billion dollars) and interest to the Russian Federation.

The decision was not in favor of Ukraine and the World Bank. Representatives of the World Bank rejected the idea of ​​supporting the credit program of Ukraine, which at the first stage provided for the allocation of 150 million US dollars. Ukraine could receive these funds from the WB until the end of March under a simplified scheme.

Shell out, gentlemen: London recognized Ukraine as a Russian debtor
The World Bank decided not to give money to Ukraine

However, there is nothing to repay Kiev. There is no money, no state property abroad, which could be arrested.

“I would venture to suggest,” writes Rostislav Ischenko, an observer at the MIA “Russia Today”, “that the trick of the High Court of London with the appeal, apart from the desire to shift responsibility for the decision to the senior comrades, was also due to the fact that, according to Russian and Ukrainian participants of the process, production will take from 3 to 12 months. Ukraine is now in such a state that experts argue only about whether it will disappear before the summer or will still live until the autumn. ”

Experts are experts, but the London judges, we add, can hardly even think about such a topic. The “disappearance” of Ukraine would not have passed without a trace either for European, or for American creditors, or for the IMF. Courts would be overwhelmed with lawsuits. Unlike Russia, forgiving debts, in the West, this kind of generosity is not accepted. There are accustomed to take a pretty penny. Uncles and aunts from the IMF and other funds and kapstran Ukraine will be cut into pieces, but will be forced to return their own, and with interest. And if there will be some kind of “disappearance” of Ukraine, then this is its economic (and even territorial) dissolution in the raking paws of western creditors. This is the case if Poroshenko does not have time to sell the motherland to the Chinese. Also a way to leave lenders with a nose.

Comments from our readers:

Sauron80

How is it that Ukraine - is Europe the same ???
This is all Putin's fault !!!

The black

Svidomye! You are not slaves! All on the new Maidan! Who does not jump, that EU! Down with lace shorts, give loincloths! Glory to Gabon! Africa and Ukraine are brothers forever. Give visa-free travel with Gabon!

cobalt

In principle, the court’s decision is clear, if the judges recognized the right of Ukraine not to pay debts on Eurobonds, this creates a precedent not to pay on Eurobonds and other debtors. In England, case law is strong, and judges will not undermine financial practice.

DMoroz

Company The Law Debenture Trust Corporation Plc (guarantor of the deal with Eurobonds) after the decision of the High Court of London gets the right to block absolutely any payments made through the SWIFT system to and from the state of Ukraine, the blocked payments are credited to a special account to secure court decision. That is, neither Ukraine will receive any money, nor its external counterparties: all funds will be withdrawn to secure repayment of the debt. And the longer it takes to deal with appeals, the longer Ukraine will sit without money and the more it will pay.
That is why the IMF (1 billion bucks), WB (650 million bucks) and the EU (600 million euros) slowed down all their tranches, since not only the money sent to Ukraine but also the money that Ukraine can find on pay off previous debts to these fin. structures (http://putc.org/myshelovka-na-3-milliarda-v-evrobondax).

Rescuer of france

Marine Le Pen predicted the death of the EU. The future of Europeans, including the French, is seen as: the European Union will die, and France will be protected from globalization. She, Le Pen, will certainly become the President of France, because her rivals in the presidential race are politically pro-European, and therefore betrayed their homeland.

Marine Le Pen in the role of a prophet: the death of the European Union is coming

The chances of winning the first round of the election of Marine Le Pen are high. On the other hand, not all polls put it in the first place.

Here are the data of the last four surveys, the first three candidates are taken:

1. Ifop: Marine Le Pen - 26%, Emmanuel Macron - 25,5%, Francois Fillon - 17,5%.
2. Ipsos: Le Pen - 27%, Macron - 26%, Fillon - 17,5%.
3. Opinionway: Le Pen - 27%, Macron - 24%, Fillon - 18%.
4. Brand Analytics: Macron - 25,9%, Fillon - 21,9%, Le Pen - 20,6%.

The first round of French presidential elections will be held on April 23.

Comments from our readers:

NEXUS

Well, she says obvious things. The concept of a homeland among Europeans has long been atrophied. And the EU will not save anything from disintegration, no matter who becomes the next president in Germany or France. Just if Le Pen wins, this process will go much faster ...

Monster_Fat

Bad Madame "prophet": the EU will not collapse in the foreseeable future - they will not give it. And Madame will never be the President of France - they will not give either. Macron will be president - a matter of course.

Nyrobsky

Those who relied on H. Clinton, there was an overwhelming majority, however ... Trump-pam-pam))) If there is a sufficiently weighty opponent in the person of Marcon, in favor of Marina, the factor of migrants will play, who not only bored the French, but also arranged them a couple of terrorist attacks with numerous victims. It is hard to imagine what a howl in the camp of globalists will rise in the event of its victory, but the likelihood that we will hear it is ...

Information in the era of postmodernism: the German interpretation of the issue

An influential German newspaper Die Welt published an article on almost a philosophical topic. We are talking about postmodernism with its unnatural casts from reality. However, the main theme of the material is “targeted” fictitious Kremlin news, whose task is to undermine any values, destroy democracy, strike at personalities, and the like. The production of this news was “established by the special services”, lured by the “regime” of V. V. Putin.

Western voices: Putin is deceiving the planet!

Earlier, we recall the success of "Putin's propaganda," wrote the German newspaper «Bild». An information note reported on the report of the East Stratcom Task Force (European Union External Relations Service Operational Task Force on Strategic Communications). Experts of the group acknowledged that Russian propaganda showed “high efficiency”.

According to members of the group, Putin’s “disinformation campaign” “pursues political goals”. To solve its problems, the Kremlin has engaged the state channels "RT" and "Sputnik", as well as "marginal sources." The latter are sites, blogs and social networks (why social networks are in the category of “marginal”, not explained).

Bild writes that the Kremlin uses “blatant lies”, the result of which infusion is to discredit certain individuals, political groups and governments, as well as leading media (mainstream) media.

The report was compiled for quite a long time: the work on the essay was carried out for fifteen months. The experts managed to collect a collection of 2500 stories in eighteen languages. In their opinion, these news "contradicted the information", which was present "in free access."

The goal of the Kremlin’s disinformation campaign was to weaken and destabilize the situation in the West, analysts say. They immediately declare their main fear: how can the West not lose the info war with the East! ..

Comments from our readers:

rich

“Western voices: Putin is deceiving the planet!”
And why so modest, why not the whole universe at once? I thought only Poroshenko megalomania.

Evdokim

The German hacks from the newspaper Die Welt also have mania. Write an article about postmodernism with its unnatural casts of reality, in which the current media has some self-sufficient systems that create "their own reality", and end up with Putin being a villain. Probably, their cooking recipes are not complete without Putin.

The poor man

The success of "Putin's propaganda" is in truth, and whoever does not understand this, no counter-propaganda will help. Against the truth you will not trample on, gentlemen!

Do not have time to get scared

The next issue of Mail Online tells about a hypersonic rocket “built by Russia”. This rocket "is capable of destroying an aircraft carrier with one blow"!

The Kremlin claims that the Zircon cruise missile has a speed from 3800 to 4600 miles per hour, that is, "five to six times the speed of sound." This means that the projectile can move at an amazing speed: 155 miles per 2,5 minutes, which is faster than a sniper's bullet. Such characteristics make this weapon an “insurmountable” threat.

The Zircon can fly twice as fast as the Sea Ceptor rocket, which is in service with the Royal Navy. It is “Sea Ceptor” that will be “responsible” for bringing down the “Zircon”. Modern British naval anti-missile defenses can shoot down missiles with speeds up to 2300 miles per hour. And this means that they are useless against the Russian "Zircon".

The Sun also cites the opinions of experts fearing cruise missiles developed by Russia. These missiles "can destroy the new aircraft carriers of the Royal Navy with a single blow"!

Military experts warn: this weapon will change the face of modern war. A senior naval source said that these hypersonic rockets "are practically unstoppable." “Having no way to defend themselves against missiles like the Zircon, the ship [I mean the British ship. “O. Ch.] Will have to remain out of reach, hundreds of miles at sea.”

According to the military site “Strategic Culture”, to which the newspaper refers, “the enemy does not have enough time to get scared, not to mention the response.”

Russians are threatening the Royal Navy: British scare over Zircon rocket

The executive editor of the American magazine The National Interest, Harry J. Kazyanis, previously pointed out that such missiles could turn America’s “super ships into multi-billion dollar cemeteries for thousands of sailors.”

It is not surprising that after the American edition the British publications sounded the alarm.

Recall about the rocket "Zircon" was known last year. A year ago, the central Russian media reported that new weapons are supposed to be installed on the Husky nuclear submarines.

Detailed information on the characteristics of "Zircon" no (classified).

Comments from our readers:

Monos

Oh, what a surprise! You were also warned that we will develop precisely strike weapons, and not fight your missile defense system. Putin himself warned. And who is your doctor after this? There are no rockets yet, and you already panic.

svp67

There are no rockets anymore, but they are already ... But then I think that there is more slyness. Just another reason for the parliament MONEY more to beg.

Mountain shooter

So to you, British non-leaves. Now guess, there is such a rocket, or not. Fear unpredictable Russians. When with the ISCs (by the standards of Anglo-Saxon standards - barges!) They thrashed the Gauges through the entire Middle East, the world realized that these Russians had something other than PR.
And this is something in large quantities and can be applied decisively and massively.
The secret weapon causes more concerns to the enemy.

* "And this mustache Holster prepares our king a bad present!" - a phrase from the cartoon "Mister Pronka"

Comments

[aszzz888]

led by Navalny

... becomes оvirtual, but it can easily be зaval ... association from the German blind

[vovanpain]

Quote: aszzz888

... becomes dumping, but can easily be dumping ... association from the German blind

Pop Gapon, he in modern guise, officially unemployed, organizes rallies in several dozen cities, from where the money is little. Well turn on your head then

[Egor. rustic]

unnecessarily afraid of the end of the world. it will not be in your lifetime.
Putin and Medvedev will not give up their places.

[Inok10]

Quote: Egor. rustic

unnecessarily afraid of the end of the world. it will not be in your lifetime.
Putin and Medvedev will not give up their places.

... some kind of friendship, it was then knocked together ... to see a sunny blow happened spring and, as always, on the sickest - head ... this is it that Spring ...
... Thanks to the authors for the righteous labors ... thanks to them, another "fake" was found ... except for the "plot of April 31.04" - "Children are told about the" bloody USSR. How is the destruction of the historical memory of the people "- the primary source is Linden ... that is, noodles on your ears, eat to health, hang on your heels ... although the name is at least where, right at the top and the topic is somehow topical ... now about a 27% reduction ... I started to read it places:

The same new Type 30 engine is unlikely to be ready and really run-in before the mid-2020s, and the AL-41F1 (the so-called first-stage engine) was created without the critical technologies for reducing radar visibility (such as flat nozzles etc.).

... and I understood that you can’t read further, it’s written by a “specialist in the military-industrial complex” ... much less the source of information is “Western media are actively discussing Russia's military spending for 2017” ... well, of course, the Air Force, CNN and others like them when they don’t lie ... ...

[region58]

Quote: Egor. rustic

unnecessarily afraid of the end of the world

Yeah ... If something, then he will fly away from us ...

[The black]

Quote: aszzz888

led by Navalny

... becomes оvirtual, but it can easily be зaval ... association from the German blind

It remains to introduce him to Duritskaya

[DenZ]

Quote: Alena Frolovna

Today they told the beautiful.

This is a test!

[apro]

Everyone was surprised by the bulk marches, but nothing fundamentally new happened, the election race just started and it was necessary to show a scarecrow and not a serious politician. The new ordinary liberal-democratic populist, the main task is to show column number .... anyone does not pose a threat to the top authorities in due to the fact that they are both from the same test. It’s ridiculous to scare some kind of Maidan, all the political forces in Russia under the control of the Kremlin, or are closely connected with it, play multifariousness.

[210ox]

For the participation of young animals in this viper, they should have fined their parents .. So that it wouldn’t be disgraceful ... And they would have watched the "kids" ..

Quote: apro

Everyone was surprised by the bulk marches, but nothing fundamentally new happened, the election race just started and it was necessary to show a scarecrow and not a serious politician. The new ordinary liberal-democratic populist, the main task is to show column number .... anyone does not pose a threat to the top authorities in due to the fact that they are both from the same test. It’s ridiculous to scare some kind of Maidan, all the political forces in Russia under the control of the Kremlin, or are closely connected with it, play multifariousness.

[ImPerts]

Quote: 210ox

For the participation of young animals in this gadyushnikov should fine their parents

"... Today they told the beautiful.
Yurfak, first year. About twenty friendly companies went to the Field of Mars and rallied. It’s clear that there are a lot of photos in social networks.
Yesterday, in the lesson, the boys and girls heard: “It's nice that you are civic conscious. Let's start the fight against corruption on our own. Since today, none of our civic activists have received“ assault rifles ”in any of the relevant subjects - this is also a violation rules, respectively - corruption! "
The people murmured.
After that, everyone got the tsar. It was supposed to take place, but themes, themes!
Legitimacy of the status of "foreign agent" for NGOs.
Corruption case of Kirovles.
Legal grounds for the existence of FBK Navalny.
And so on.
Exclusively in the framework of the current legislation.
Well, about the promise of 10 thousand Eureks for participating in the rally and the subsequent persecution ... :)
Let formed.
Today, one of the girls came to us to select literature. All in tears. The teachings are satraps, and Leshenka is so glorious!
The second course got the same thing.
And today there were guys from the faculty of sociology and political science. About the same reason.
A tender maiden of 19 years, biting her lips, writes kursach about Maidan. You should have seen it!
What is characteristic - only 1 and 2 courses were rushed to protest. The elders are not up to it. In addition, from the third year of practice.
And these ... let them toss. There are no ready-made texts on the Internet, just write or order yourself. And ordering is fraught, very much. They’ll immediately be deducted for exposing contract work ... "
http://liorelin.livejournal.com/2739559.html

[andj61]

This, I understand, is level 80 trolling! Someone from the university leadership really thought well himself - and made students think! And everything is exclusively within the framework of the educational process!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: ImPerts

"... Today they told the beautiful .......

Smiled))) But what? Once they came out to protest against corruption, then they must understand the essence of the subject.

Quote: ImPerts

After that, everyone got the tsar. It was supposed to take place, but themes, themes!
Legitimacy of the status of "foreign agent" for NGOs.
Corruption case of Kirovles.
Legal grounds for the existence of FBK Navalny.
And so on.
Exclusively in the framework of the current legislation.
Well, about the promise of 10 thousand Eureks for participating in the rally and the subsequent persecution ... :)
Let formed.

[Karachun]

Bravo Finally, at least someone thought that the energy of these "burning eyes" should be directed in a peaceful direction

[Egor. rustic]

Quote: ImPerts

And these ... let them toss

all right, the student will learn to think. and at the same time understand what is the state.
conclusions each will make their own.

[Forester]

In accordance with applicable law and judicial practice, up to the age of 18, just the parents are fined. I feel when fines come, some will have to remember that Domostroy periodically instantly resurrects from oblivion and at its fifth point check the quality of production of leather and not only products

[Egor. rustic]

Quote: Forester

I feel when fines come

which will push children to "muzzles" like in Ukraine.
immediately there will be a law banning the wearing of "muzzles"
everything according to the old scheme?

[andj61]

Quote: Forester

In accordance with applicable law and court practice, up to 18 years of age, just parents are fined and paid:

This is not the case at all. According to the administrative code, liability begins from the age of 16. And bailiffs are unlikely to be able to recover a fine from a non-working undergrowth. There is no property, no independent income either. Is that dad himself will pay. It’s another matter that liability can also arise for an unpaid fine - the same fine, but doubled, or administrative arrest up to 15 days.

[Knowing]

Quote: apro

The new ordinary liberal liberal populist, the main task is to show the column number

It’s just a “holler”, for RUSSIA it’s just famous from some; when known, not dangerous. Yeah.

[SRC P-15]

If I were the president of Russia, I would specially “get” myself such a Navalny. And what: do you have to fight corruption in power? I have to! But how can this be done so that no one in this government realizes that this is my business? Yes, it’s very simple: you need to get hold of such an “uncompromising” fighter against corruption. To leave unanswered that this “fighter” “dug up”, I as president cannot — the electorate will not understand me. So you need to fight corruption, showing, as it were, that I have nothing to do with it, people want it that way. How do I (if I would be the president) find out what the strength of the opposition in Russia is? Correctly! - Organize rallies led by this “fighter” against corruption. How can I again make sure that the loafing youth does not go to these rallies? Correctly! - To organize such meetings with the participation of this youth, to vaccinate so to speak. Because now after the last rallies, these same young people will think a hundred times to go there or not, I hope this will be facilitated by both their parents (who paid the fine) and the educational institutions in which these young people study.
These are just my thoughts about what I would do as a president. But since I do not have to be, then I am silent on this. I apologize to Vladimir Vladimirovich if I inadvertently revealed his plan.

[Egor. rustic]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Because now after the last rallies, these very young people will think a hundred times to go there or not, I hope this

and the children will finally lose faith in their state. and they will become vargs like everyone close to power or will flee abroad.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Egor. rustic

and the children will finally lose faith in their state.

Children, on the contrary, will understand that it is necessary to observe the laws of the state in which you live.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Egor. rustic

and the children will finally lose faith in their state. and they will become vargs like everyone close to power or will flee abroad.

Nude, recently discussed Paraguay, where she also had a gopota, and: Unfortunately, this is not possible with us, although from time immemorial in Russia, there was the first whip to the Scammer and Provocateur.

[Karachun]

Once again, I’m delighted with Putin - well, it’s just a genius of our time, a monster simply - interferes in the elections, hackers wanked up so that everyone writes in boiling water from the mere mention of this (which is only an April Fool’s joke with our Foreign Ministry answering machine - I'm just the table moved out of laughter), dope pumped all of Russia, spread England ... uh ... well, in the sense of arranging a brexit, in Syria barmaley came to his favorite corn so that all NATO countries spit, and not NATO either, Ukrainians generally worship him for God - they get up and lie down with the name of HIS on their lips, he and Poroshenko are recording him as witnesses .... now he has brought Navalny to himself - they start other pikineses or seals, and here is a whole Navalny ..... but about how many acts of IT I have not mentioned - I’m afraid the format of this communication will not allow - there’s no place that's enough

[Sirocco]

Quote: apro

Everyone was surprised by the bulk marches,

At first I was surprised by the news about the closure of the “churches” of the Egovists, then I remembered the Ukrainian Maidan, and I realized what was happening, because there was an extras from the representatives of this and similar CLANS on the Maidan, because they are forced people, they were given a command to the massacre and they stick with bulging eyes . Finally, they took up this underground army, imagine hundreds of thousands of Russians in this deception (((scribe in one word. I think this our government is knocking out the soil for those wishing to repeat the Ukrainian scenario in the Russian Federation.

[rotmistr60]

Group experts admitted that Russian propaganda has shown "high efficiency."

Of course there is activity, but in my opinion it’s still not high enough. Often, everything looks like an excuse, or on the principle of "himself d urak".
It is noteworthy that the German media is too zealous against Russia, even sometimes outperforming the Anglo-Saxons in the number of false and falsified materials. And this is in a country where the “golden rule” should be instilled at the genetic level - it’s better not to mess with Russians, let alone fight.

[ImPerts]

Quote: rotmistr60

Activity of course there is

[andj61]

The German media is active only because they are paid for it - however, like the media around the world. In Germany, this year the corresponding curator has a little more grannies - these are the German media that stand out.
The most interesting thing is that even in the midst of the Cold War there was no such rubbish as now. It seems that the Western liberal media adopted the worst methods of Soviet propaganda of the 60s - 70s, and ours - the best methods of the Western democratic press of that time ...

[urman]

Quote: andj61

It seems that the Western liberal media adopted the worst methods of Soviet propaganda of the 60s - 70s, and ours - the best methods of the Western democratic press of that time ...

And I am only happy about this!
To not go far, look at the talk show bombs.
The wife always asks why I am laughing when he speaks.
My answer is the same as our political officer from 80-82, an ideal copy.
Only then, DMB was waiting, not only because he missed the house, so that he wouldn’t listen to him anymore.
Like how you will fight with the Americans, if that, if you sleep in political activities.
And now it’s funny, they picked up a good clown bomb.

[andj61]

I also really like to look at this Michael, and the ardent defenders of Ukraine, and the Polish-Czech-German defenders of liberal values. No humorous transmission is needed! And - you are absolutely right - they are a very bad copy of our party-Komsomol functionaries, absolutely not wanting to think independently, but checking each word with an indication of the party!
But foreigners, although sometimes rarely make sound judgments, but our home-grown liberals simply showered with hatred towards the government, the country, and people. I used to think that they shouldn’t be allowed on TV at all, but now I understand that this peculiar vaccine against liberalism, like Woland’s, is a session of magic followed by exposure. After the television exposure, the liberals no longer believe people, even grandmothers spit on them!

[urman]

Quote: andj61

I used to think that they shouldn’t be allowed on TV at all, but now I already understand that this kind of vaccine against liberalism,

I have never gone to the polls from a word at all.
Well, as soon as I saw a swamp on the stage, this camarilla from the 90s.
And then another grandmother, Clit Clinton, said that the United States would never recognize the election if Putin wins.
He came among the first to the polling station.
That’s what our liberals hope after they’ve done
in 90's.
Really vaccinated, so vaccinated.

[Egor. rustic]

Quote: andj61

Western liberal media have adopted the worst techniques of Soviet propaganda of the 60s - 70s,

specify in the examples when the media of the USSR lied?
or what are the worst tricks you have to introduce?
as we now know from our own experience everything that was said by the mass media of the USSR turned out to be true.
only for checking these facts we sold our state.

[andj61]

Did I talk about lies? I talked about the worst propaganda tricks that no one in the USSR believed in - about oppressed starving workers in the USA and Europe (in the early 70s they raised money at the school to help the English striking miners - then it turned out they were so bad with the miners, that their family’s meat is eaten no more than three times a week, that is, the strike was better than the norm in the Union). And about the decaying west, a whole series of jokes was on the topic: the West is flying to get in when we catch up with it! Here they lied a little then, they were silent more or by distortion. Unless about a starving doctor in the states, Dr. Hyder, whom our journalists, as they themselves admitted, quietly fed.
And the worst thing in that propaganda was that people publicly said something they did not believe in, and, in general, did not hide it. Even one to one secretary of the party committee expressed the truth, but literally an hour later from the rostrum they said what was needed.
And propagandists also often did not hide that they think differently from what they say. Only unlike ordinary people, this double-headedness manifested itself constantly, and not extremely rarely, and this, in the end, began to annoy everyone and led to disbelief in the prevailing ideology. While almost everyone supported the idea of ​​communism, nobody believed in propaganda by the early eighties. Exactly this kind of propaganda with a set of stamps, silence and distortion was adopted by the Western media.

[Knowing]

Americans completely: US senators are lobbying for new sanctions against Russia, citing "cyber threats" on its part, aggressive activity, and in jest of the country's president Vladimir Putin, who, responding to the child, said that the borders of Russia "are not ending anywhere". ... however, as Kuzmich said, in such cases either VODKA or BABA (oh, sorry women!), or better, both of them and MUCH ...
For the future:

[andj61]

Free half the world - smiled!

[Knowing]

Quote: andj61

Free half the world - smiled!

Have a good fuck ...

[Lelek]

Quote: Knowing

Americans completely

Hey.
Regarding the Americans (no, not those in the state departments and senates, but simple people who even learned to joke in Russian):

Thomas Lawrence is a purebred Yankee.

[Knowing]

Him-b to the Far East, or to Siberia. Here People are Men. And St. Petersburg and St. Petersburg can only blow their cheeks out of the fact that they are residents of it. But for the most part, they are simply bipedal (I recall My appeal of the 85th), generally not good. Like Muscovites.

[Lelek]

Quote: Knowing

Knowing

Well, it's you in vain. I myself am from St. Petersburg, and at one time I traveled all over the USSR. And the syndrome of “ticking” occurs in all parts of the world. Both in Siberia and the DCK, many people from Europe and the Americas with different skin colors live and work, and are happy, despite the difficulties of our existence.

[German Titov]

I completely agree. I served with the guys from Moscow, we’re still friends. In St. Petersburg (Sosnovy Bor) brother lives. In the Far East, I was at a Komsomol-youth construction site. Born and live in the Donbass.

[Lelek]

Quote: German Titov

German Titov

Hey. My respect to you.

[krass]

Quote: Knowing

Him-b to the Far East, or to Siberia. Here People are Men.

Last weekend, the Martens family, whose members are called "sexual refugees", came to Germany from the Siberian hinterland, to the north of the Novosibirsk region, for permanent residence. She became famous for her demonstrative protest against the forced "sexual education" of children in primary school in Germany. About how the "new Siberians" settle down on the spot, we were told in the Kyshtovka district center.
Yes, the Martens family came to us in Kyshtovka, ”says Tatyana Georgievna Lyashenko, deputy head of the district. - Just yesterday, the head of the family came to the administration, according to the documents he Eugen, but asked to call himself Eugene. That was his name when he lived with his parents in the Isilkul district of the Omsk region.

He said that in the 90s they emigrated to Germany. We lived in a small town in North Rhine-Westphalia. There he married Louise, all of their ten children were born there. Eugene made a good impression on everyone. The villagers noted: “Good is coming straight from him ...”

http://www.mk.ru/social/2016/12/21/semya-seksbezh
encev-evakuirovalas-v-rossiyu-iz-germanii.html

[Olgovich]

“Admiral Kuznetsov,” I think, does not need to be modernized: save it until its resource is developed, then a museum.
He does not do the weather, and modernization will take much more than 20 billion.
But the Premier League is a truly formidable weapon for all “partners.”: Shipbuilders have something to do. We also need frigates, destroyers. There and send funds.

[ImPerts]

It is necessary to upgrade it. It can be used for a long time as a training base, for “Thread” is a thread, but sea and land are like sea and land (such a pun came out))).
Regarding the nuclear submarine, Andrey from Chelyabinsk has already expressed his opinion:
https://topwar.ru/88884-rol-avianoscev-i-podvodny
h-lodok-v-voyne-na-tihom-okeane.html
And interesting comments here:
https://topwar.ru/112355-noak-stroitelstvo-aviano
sca-nahoditsya-na-zavershayuschey-stadii.html # com
ment-id-6781359
Z.Y. The SSBNs are needed in any case))) And to demonstrate power off the coast of the banana republics, having a couple of aircraft carriers will not hurt))) Hollywood taught it)))
To the same Norway or Spratlandia.

[apro]

Igor, aug is a rather costly and not always justifiable thing, Russia today will obviously not pull it and there are no worthy goals for it, it’s quite worthy to cope with it or strategists, which is not cheaper for example. It is clear that authority and other important ones were wanted, but for the money one must live and not by illusion.

[ImPerts]

And our country doesn’t need 12 AUG (if my memory serves me right about our "partners"))).
2 aircraft carrier and 2 full orders.
Z.Y. they must operate both in the tropics and at the equator, and in Arctic and Antarctic waters. And this is money. Versatility is worth a lot.

[apro]

Igor, how much will it cost? Well, firstly, not two, but at least 4 mk, a change is needed, the aircraft carrier can’t sail year-round, and how many boxes do you need to escort? And most importantly, what should they do except the flag display?

[ImPerts]

It will cost a lot. And they will be engaged in a show of strength and intimidation. When a Euro-Gabon starts to be puzzled by its own importance, the AUG comes and shows a flag ...
More and do not)))

[Olgovich]

Thank you very much for the tips: I read it with pleasure: how did you miss it yourself?
Andrei from Chelyabinsk, an unconditional authority for me, with almost all of his conclusions (in all articles), agrees.
But in your article about nuclear submarines, there’s not a word, there’s about the need for a balanced fleet composition in conditions of WWII,
Today is a different situation, the Premier League solves qualitatively different tasks — strategic deterrence.
Carriers, in the current financial realities of Russia, are less necessary for it (in my amateurish opinion), and less real.

[Alena Frolovna]

Tanks are not afraid of dirt?

[Nikolaich_2]

And they’re afraid, only mothers!

[Lelek]

Quote: Alena Frolovna

Alena Frolovna

Hey. It is a pity that GIF images stopped playing on the VO. There is a suitable one on the subject you have touched, but ....

[ImPerts]

There are different submarines. Global containment requires an SSBN. AUG is needed to demonstrate power.

[Egor. rustic]

even to intimidate a banana republic, an aircraft carrier is greasy.
you need to really evaluate your strength.
To be or not to be an aircraft carrier is the question.

[s.melioxin]

A meeting in short pants ...
... brought to the streets of Russian cities "young animals". In Moscow, St. Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Vladivostok, Voronezh, Chelyabinsk and other cities.

It somehow coincided that I watched a lot of stories, comments, and news about this rally. There was an opinion. Youths youths, maximalists, all at once. And if also for a "freebie." Adrenaline beats Bosko. A bright representative ... it’s impossible to connect two words, he cannot clearly express his thought, and the savior is also ... / the face of Russia. Well, okay with them. Disturbing another. Everyone has a mom, almost every dad. Who are these parents? Where, who and what brought them up? Correctly. The power of money, when profit is paramount, not relationships. From here and such a generation. Not all, that's for sure, there are a lot of smart, purposeful people who have already achieved something. But there are many "saviors." So, the “belt” must be given to the parents of the “saviors”.

[siberalt]

In the red hood, it seems, the "curator" of the centurions of these goats.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: siberalt

In the red hood, it seems, the "curator" of the centurions of these goats.

Along the way, it is, the person is preoccupied with a red hood "so that the sheep do not run up) .. And the rest are" creative managers .. ".. They say it is not bad (for a couple of hours of shame they" unfastened ..

[Knowing]

Quote: s.melioxin

Somehow it coincided that a lot of stories, comments, news

Just look and ... be horrified:

[novobranets]

Drive this rector with pissed rags in the face, following the brainless "graduates." Lord, after all, once their father-mother will be employed, and these prosthetic heads will decide the fate of the country. Nightmare. They don’t know anything, but they already demand a high salary.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: novobranets

Drive this rector with pissed rags in the face, following the brainless "graduates."

Baburina? He knows how to teach ...

[Knowing]

Quote: novobranets

Lord, after all, once their father-mother will be employed, and these prosthetic heads will decide the fate of the country

Well, why will ... It already happened ... three years ago ... However.

[novobranets]

Quote: Knowing

This has already happened ...

Alas. And every year there are, so to speak, “specialists”, more and more. Where do you think all these defective ... sorry, effective managers come from?

[region58]

Quote: Knowing

Well, why will ... It already happened ... three years ago ... However.

I have a fear that the most difficult times for Russia are ahead, when

Quote: novobranets

these prosthetic heads will decide the fate of the country.

.

[Lelek]

Quote: Knowing

Knowing

I think old Soros jumps out of diapers with delight.

[urman]

To go nuts, since I’m s / n from 100, I answered almost all questions

[Egor. rustic]

The February revolution was also raised by the bourgeoisie. let yourself amuse yourself. while we will support them so that the authorities move.
And to defend the theft of LADIES is generally a shame. Think gentlemen comrades, think.

[Karachun]

Egor - WHO are you going to support so far?!?! As I understand it, are you still studying at school, or didn’t you go anywhere further than your village in 5 yards?!?! Otherwise, I would have remembered how the February Revolution ended and flirting with this - already the October Revolution, the collapse of the country, the civil war and the wars with interventionists, shredding everything from my, and yours, country too.
And if you had carefully read all the comments here, you would know that DAMA is definitely nobody here and will never defend it. To mine, 99,9% of the local inhabitants are ready to personally escort him to Kolyma, even if he is pure as an angel, for his statements alone.

[yehat]

why speculate in words? in the 90s there were no iPhones, but almost all of them lived in apartments received free of charge or lived in rented housing at reasonable prices. You can’t compare so primitively.

[Rabinowicz]

Patriotism is good in moderation.

[novobranets]

To the best, even snake venom is a cure. Patriotism without measure, this is fanaticism, and this is far from gut.

[Nikolaich_2]

How could it be that Zavalny did not think of withdrawing the Dedadites, with indignation, a few diapers, etc., and also evoking the spirit of Nemtsov !!

[Mestny]

Quote: apro

Everyone was surprised by the bulk marches, but nothing fundamentally new happened, the election race just started and it was necessary to show a scarecrow and not a serious politician. The new ordinary liberal democratic populist,

In vain you think so.
This figure embodies the next ideas of the developers of the scenario of the revolution in Russia, that is, its collapse.
A few years ago, they tried to engage the middle class and employees in large cities, the so-called office "hamsters". This topic has not yet taken off because the participants in such a process can easily be taken in one place, since they are all citizens and are subject to all Russian laws. And they had something to lose, and some even had something to think about.
Now the situation is different - minors are trying to withdraw. From the point of view of the authors, the situation is a win-win - they have no brains, it is much easier to motivate them. The authorities, on the contrary, struggle with such “protests” much more difficult - what means, for example, of stopping the illegal procession, can be used if its participants are overwhelmingly minors? At the slightest attempt, a universal howl will be immediately raised that "the power is killing children."
The authors of the next revolution obviously rely on their own, Western system, in which the teenager is a kind of privileged object, around which round dance a bunch of special officials. They monitor compliance with their interests. That is, a teenager can do everything, but nothing can stop him directly.
Fortunately, in our country this type of relationship does not work to the full extent yet - upbringing in families and at school is still being done despite.
So there is a high probability that this scenario will not work either.
In fact, the Ukrainians first option worked. But they are “ceevrop”, and fortunately we are not.

[region58]

Quote: Mestny

That is, a teenager can do everything, but nothing can stop him directly.

Sane in Europe, too, did not go extinct ...

Spanish OnZheKryb tried to send his mother to jail due to weaning a mobile phone (played instead of lessons)
On February 28, at 8 pm, in the Spanish city of El Ejido, the 37-year-old Maria Angustias unsuccessfully tried to persuade her 15-year-old son to stop playing on her cell phone and start her homework. As a result, she took the phone from her son by force. The son filed an application with the Civil Guard. The case went to court, the prosecutor demanded punishment for the mother for "improper treatment of the child" - 9 months in prison and reimbursement of legal costs. The judge, however, took the side of the mother, deciding that she acted within her powers, and the measures of influence on the child were adequate to the situation.

[yehat]

I would like to speak about the repair of Kuznetsov - I very doubtfully perceive its possible combat value, however, it can become a useful object for gaining experience, tactics, technologies and understanding what is needed and what is missing in the direction of using aviks. The main thing is that its modernization, reconfiguration and operation do not turn out to be the second history of the construction of the Zenith Arena and that this is not just curiosity. Either we mess with Kuznetsov and then build outstanding aircraft carriers more often than 1 in 20 years, or immediately write off them as scrap metal and close all deck-based aviation projects. A compromise in this matter is impossible.