Defense Ministry will receive a high-altitude UAV

The Russian Defense Ministry will adopt the Sova-type high-altitude aircraft, which are supposed to replace expensive low-orbit observation and communication satellites, according to News.

“Fueled by solar energy and using air currents, they will conduct constant patrols of remote areas of the World Ocean and the Arctic. Their task is to conduct reconnaissance, as well as the transmission of control signals and communication with ships and military objects located beyond the Arctic Circle, ”the newspaper writes citing specialists.

The company "Tiber", which developed and manufactured the UAV, said that the tests of the product were the last six months and will be completed this month. According to their results, changes will be made to the “Owl” design, after which a decision will be made to adopt the device.

According to the developers, “Sova’s high-altitude repeater can be in the air all year round, it is made of materials based on carbon fibers that have high strength, low weight and are designed for long-term continuous operation.”

The UAV has a wingspan of 28 meters and can rise to a height of up to 20 thousand meters. “Thanks to solar batteries installed in the plane of the wing, the device can be in the air indefinitely. The connection with it is carried out through several reserved channels - satellite and several protected radio channels, ”the article says.

The flight of the device is automatic, but can be adjusted by the operator. Therefore, at any time the UAV can be planted and repair.

According to the expert in the field of unmanned aerial vehicles Denis Fedutinov, Sova is the first device of this class in Russia.

Atmospheric satellites are an inexpensive solution to global problems. Especially where the creation of ground base communication stations is expensive and difficult to maintain. Recently, Russia has seen the need to ensure constant radio communication with ships in the world's oceans and military bases on the Arctic islands. It is necessary to control the Northern Sea Route. "Owl" with its capabilities will completely solve the challenges facing the military,

said the expert.

Comments

[cniza]

It sounds very fantastic, we will wait for further messages. Successes.

[Shurik70]

And why only 20 km altitude?
Yes, the same Samara “Eagle” rises 25 km, and cheap

[Thrall]

UAV has a wingspan of 28 meters

in the video, probably, a smaller prototype is launched

[Observer2014]

Thrall

in the video, probably, a smaller prototype is launched

We have such a tradition since the days of the USSR. Everything should be secret. Starting from the pistol and ending with everything. Suddenly the enemy will see. At least stop. Our new products have always appeared earlier in the foreign press than ours. And there are a bunch of specialists who will explain why this should be. Frankly speaking, just ridiculous. It’s clear that no one will show the Zircon rocket for example. There’s the shape of the hull. But the trees are UAV sticks! Which is bad for everyone to fly, you can even remove the video. Or someone asks the stuffing to publish it.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Observer2014

UAV! Which is troubled to fly in full view

at an altitude of 20km
Which movie?
But the question is, how much equipment can I hang in there, except for a few cameras?
It looks too painfully openwork. And you cannot launch another into the stratosphere.
The Americans stuffed a television repeater into their Solar-50. But they have a range of 50 meters, and did not rise above 8 km. Although he flew without landings, he charged batteries from the sun.

[Observer2014]

Shurik70

at an altitude of 20km What movie?

Ordinary video, about 5 minutes. And what does 20 km have to do with it? Doesn’t he fly lower? Or just as a rocket jumps 20 km.

[Andrey Ostroushko]

This is not a UAV but an atmospheric satellite that can conduct both reconnaissance for the army and work as a transmitter of radio and TV signals and perform other functions of modern satellites. And since this is a satellite that feeds on the energy of the sun and it must fly for years, that’s why it must fly above all clouds, cyclones and thunderstorm fronts, and therefore 20 km.

[Pirogov]

Quote: Thrall

in the video, probably, a smaller prototype is launched

I read on the site: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ................ High-altitude UAV “Sova” developed by the Tiber company with the support of the Foundation for Advanced Research , in June successfully passed flight tests. A feature of the “Owl” is the presence of solar panels on the wings from which the engine is powered, so this device can perform long flights. For example, a test flight lasted more than two days. In the first prototype, the wing span was 9 meters with a take-off mass of 12 kg. Currently preparing flight tests of the prototype with a wingspan of 28 meters ...................................... .....
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................. This is what there for a UAV will be if 9 meters weighs 12 kilos, and 28 will weigh 40 kg?!.

[Scoun]

Quote: Shurik70

And why only 20 km altitude?

why don't you tell
Wow!!!

“Thanks to the solar panels installed in the wing plane, the device can be in the air for an unlimited time.

Personally, it’s easier on my heart.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Scoun

Quote: Shurik70

And why only 20 km altitude?

why don't you tell
Wow!!!

Because the Russian La-252 stratosphere can fly non-stop at an altitude of 25 km and carry a load of 25 kg.

[mojohed2012]

The only question is that the satellite is still harder to shoot down than this UAV. And sworn partners are already training on "Russian-speaking extras" to fight with the Russian Federation.

[siberalt]

Clap when they accept. And so, good luck with the performance of the first! To promise - not toss stones.

[bulvas]

The news is very pleased

Quote: mojohed2012

The only question is that the satellite is still harder to shoot down than this UAV.

So the prices are incomparable

I won’t be surprised if such an airplane is cheaper than an air-to-air missile.

[gringo]

it’s harder to bring down a satellite, but launching it into orbit is more difficult and expensive, all the more expeditious. And samol, of course, is somehow not serious in appearance, but if it fulfills its functions, it’s a funky topic, several thousand of them were launched and at least each sergeant has a separate channel communication.

[VadimSt]

Quote: mojohed2012

The only question is that it’s harder to shoot down a satellite than this UAV

Yeah, and also the satellite, it’s easier to maintain, you can throw it in bulk, and it’s cheaper, and it’s easier to adjust the observation area, so what? Every vegetable has its own garden!

[dubowitskij.vick]

Quote: mojohed2012

The only question is that the satellite is still harder to shoot down than this UAV. And sworn partners are already training on "Russian-speaking extras" to fight with the Russian Federation.

And who told you that this piece of iron will be used in Syria, for example? The article says something about the Arctic. And the vast oceans. Are you already fighting in the Arctic? Or over Okinawa, nearby, of course, without going, so to speak, on the threshold ....

[dnestr74]

And they said that there were no developments, the right bird.

[just exp]

this one can fly year-round. in the article it is written.

[iConst]

It looks kind of flimsy. What if it gets into the storm?

[I read the news]

It is small enough so that the difference in strength is significant on its different sides. And since he is in the air, he himself moves with the air in the storm. Thus, not the wind speed around the apparatus will increase, but the speed of the apparatus relative to the ground.

[Mar.Tirah]

If they decide the stability of transmission, communication at extremely low temperatures in the Arctic, the stability of the engine, then a good trip. Although, of course, he can’t completely replace the satellites. This is done from need. And you need to do the expropriation of the fat, enraged oligarchs, and put the officials at a living wage, and just plant the stolen ones. Make them work for the good of their homeland. Then, then, satellites will appear, not yachts, and mansions in the Caribbean.

[gringo]

what's the difference at 20 thousand in the Arctic or at the equator, and what is the dependence of radio communications on temperature? Yes, and there is an electric motor. Of need, of course, but the thing is worth it. And do not launch a rocket. Yes, about the officials and the cost of living delivered. during the time of Joseph Visarionitch, they stole and exceeded official powers and right now at a living wage, obviously And to make us work as we do, poke a nose in the nose with a Mauser, or take hostages as relatives?

[dubowitskij.vick]

Quote: Mar. Tira

If they decide the stability of transmission, communication at extremely low temperatures in the Arctic, the stability of the engine, then a good trip. Although, of course, he can’t completely replace the satellites. This is done from need. And you need to do the expropriation of the fat, enraged oligarchs, and put the officials at a living wage, and just plant the stolen ones. Make them work for the good of their homeland. Then, then, satellites will appear, not yachts, and mansions in the Caribbean.

Low temperatures are a haven for electronics. Stability of engines? So they are electric. Heights of 20 km is dry air. With a moisture content of about 2-6%. The main thing is not to decline, so as not to freeze. And in the gusts of dense air can not get. The higher, the more comfortable.

[Irokez]

Hm. An interesting solution and its main thing. So, communication in remote areas can be maintained both cellular and other from the device to the device, and so along the chain throughout the depths of the territory and satellites are not needed and wires on the ground.
It turns out launched and maintain a fleet of drones in the right territory. In addition, shooting and monitoring of the area and much more.

[Dembel77]

If everything works out as intended, then the game is worth the candle. In general - the future is created today, as well as the technology of the future. By the way, the flight altitude of low-orbit satellites is slightly different (These spacecraft fly at an altitude of 500-2000 km. The "constellations" of low-orbit satellites consist of at least 48 satellites, all of which must be launched before the commercial operation of the system). But high-altitude UAVs are hundreds of times cheaper.

[Odysseus]

High-altitude UAV "fueled by solar energy" will replace the satellites? What is this, a joke ?
So today is not April 1.

[I read the news]

What is unreal? What part seemed to you a joke?

[Odysseus]

Absolutely everything. And that "they will conduct constant patrols of remote areas of the oceans" - in what interesting way? And that they will conduct reconnaissance, how can they provide the necessary payload? And what will hang in the air for an unlimited time - in my opinion, a real world record of 11 days.
No, of course, only for, but really, in the best case, this is a repeater for the Arctic flying over the territory of Russia. And not at all “unlimited time.” And I doubt that in the near future this UAV will be mass-produced.
PS This, of course, if we just because of problems with the Proton and the Union do not finally disrupt all satellite launch schedules ...

[abc_alex]

Here's a strange thing, in the note there is the name of the UAV and the developer. Okay, it was possible to skip the news of last year about the tests of this UAV, but just drive one of two into the search engine, is it really laziness?

Yes, that's right, this thing can fly around the clock, recharged from solar panels, on a 9-meter model they got a positive energy balance after 2 cycles of operation of the "satellite" energy system ("day-night") with an energy reserve of more than 30% . The model flew for 2 days at 9 km. And he has a very difficult wing with a distributed control system. It is flexible, and is controlled by several autopilots, which provide it with equal load along the entire length. Because of this, it turned out to make a transport system with high efficiency.

And what will prevent him from patrolling, for example, over the oceans? Provided that he does not have to hang in one place?

[Tatarin83]

There is probably another question, how will he observe. For radar, IMHO you need more energy than can be removed from solar panels, there is only surveillance through a video camera + relay

[Odysseus]

Quote: abc_alex

Here is a strange thing

Here's a strange thing, the article states that this pepelats will work “all year round” and at an altitude of 20 km. And you write in a “refutation” of doubts that it flew 2 days for 9 km.
Is it really so hard to understand the difference between year-round and 2 days? Really laziness?

Quote: abc_alex

And what will prevent him from patrolling, for example, over the oceans?

The article states "the constant patrolling of remote areas of the oceans." We live in Russia, remote areas of the World Ocean, let us, for example, be the south of the Indian Ocean.
That is, you want to say that starting this pepelats from Russia will fly to the south of the Indian Ocean and there will conduct "year-round reconnaissance" replacing satellites?
Suppose you convinced me, but practice is a criterion of truth, let's see how many UAVs we have and how they will replace satellites and conduct year-round reconnaissance in a year.
Only you will announce in advance what you will do if in a year, even in two years, none of this happens.

[dubowitskij.vick]

Quote: Odyssey

High-altitude UAV "fueled by solar energy" will replace the satellites? What is this, a joke ?
So today is not April 1.

Read carefully. LOW ORBITAL. It would be nice to know that such satellites live in orbit of the week, no more. And the launch is almost as serious as the high ones.

[Shadow shooter]

In the event of a mess of these birds, they immediately beat on 20 km.

[Tatarin83]

In the case of zavorashki and satellites whisper, and the grouping of these UAVs is much easier to restore than satellites

[dubowitskij.vick]

Quote: Shadow shooter

In the event of a mess of these birds, they immediately beat on 20 km.

And especially over its territory in the Arctic. If such a booze really goes, then there will be nothing to regret these five - ten pieces. Pity the house, mom, children .....

[HUMANOID]

Geostationary satellites hang only above the equator, and only in the polar regions, so there are gaps in the coverage, and such a bird will be very useful. And about the fact that they are beaten down - read the article carefully, It is made of carbon fiber based materials, which have high strength, light weight , that is, there is practically no metal there and no radar will take them.

[Hierarch]

Quote: HUMANOID

that is, there is practically no metal there and no radar will take them.

They radiate. Three receivers are enough for localization. (In fact, four is better).

[HUMANOID]

If as a repeater, then probably yes, but for transferring data of a compressed signal over a secure channel, a couple of seconds is sufficient

[dubowitskij.vick]

Quote: HUMANOID

If as a repeater, then probably yes, but for transferring data of a compressed signal over a secure channel, a couple of seconds is sufficient

If you zoomed up, with a good antenna, to your satellite, then it is even more difficult to direction finding.

[san4es]

In addition to satellites, it will. (For expansion, amplification of a signal from a satellite)

[Tartar]

He had a cool catapult to launch))) I also liked the landing.
But this is how it will fly in the Arctic in winter ??? Apparently everyone forgot about the polar night.

[san4es]

At 20 km. the height of the sun is shining

[Tartar]

The sun can and will be at that height, but it will be low above the horizon. Those. will shine tangentially to the solar panels. Accordingly, recharging will be very poor, if at all.

[rotor]

You can here such a design for the low sun.

[abc_alex]

Not rational. Elevated elements are a load, not a wing. No lift is added. Everything that you win in additional lighting, you lose due to the transportation of excess cargo.
And for such machines it is important to minimize energy consumption.

[rotor]

And there are no clouds covering the Sun.

[abc_alex]

Height. As a rule, there are no clouds above 9 km.

[rotor]

Thanks to the solar panels installed in the wing plane, the device can be in the air for an unlimited time.

Being in the air for unlimited time is unlikely. But if he were to gather in the air from separate UAVs, then yes, it would be possible to undock the broken ones and connect new ones.

[san4es]

... so you can build a carpet

[I read the news]

In principle, the idea of ​​an airplane crust is good. If you flexibly dock not only left-right, but also forward backward, and control each element individually, taking into account a common goal, then while minimizing each element, you can get an airplane carpet.
Something such nano-technology should do.

[san4es]

RosNano has no imagination ... Let them turn, then they get so many ideas you take away hfig

[megajob]

It’s not funny, but you're right, the truth is not a “square” but a “triangular” rug.

[Irokez]

Fantast. )))

[rotor]

Such a modular principle is embedded in the Odysseus UAV. The device should consist of modules that independently take off and dock at high altitude.

[abc_alex]

Quote: Odyssey

Here's a strange thing, the article states that this pepelats will work “all year round” and at an altitude of 20 km. And you write in a “refutation” of doubts that it flew 2 days for 9 km.

Not "this pepelats", but its prototype reduced by 5 times. And I wrote that in a day he managed to generate energy by 30% more than he spent. That is, he does not depend on the earth energetically. And for 2 days he flew according to the flight algorithm development program. When he dialed the data, he landed.

Quote: Odyssey

The article states "the constant patrolling of remote areas of the oceans." We live in Russia, remote areas of the World Ocean, let us, for example, be the south of the Indian Ocean.
That is, you want to say that starting this pepelats from Russia will fly to the south of the Indian Ocean and there will conduct "year-round reconnaissance" replacing satellites?

First, replacing not all satellites, but low-orbit ones. Read carefully. These are those that are mobile relative to the earth. The device will move behind the sun during the day, minimizing battery consumption and shift to the equator with the onset of winter. So it is supposed to achieve year-round.
And secondly, what will prevent him from flying a great distance?

Quote: Odyssey

Suppose you convinced me, but practice is a criterion of truth, let's see how many UAVs we have and how they will replace satellites and conduct year-round reconnaissance in a year.
Only you will announce in advance what you will do if in a year, even in two years, none of this happens.

Why not in a year? So far, only two smaller prototypes have been built, with a wing of 9 and 28 meters. How do I know when and for what time the program for constructing the original will be calculated? Now not even the dimensions of the original device are announced. Of course, you need to wait, and not argue in vain.