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Kiev refuses to discuss the abolition of the transport blockade of Donbass

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According to information RIA News, Victoria Talakina, a spokeswoman for the plenipotentiary of the Donetsk People’s Republic in the contact group for Ukraine, Denis Pushilina, announced Kiev’s refusal to discuss in negotiations in Minsk the lifting of the Donbass transport blockade:

The Ukrainian side continues to insist on the withdrawal of external administrators from the enterprises of Ukrainian jurisdiction, referring to the fact that these decisions LDNR adopted unilaterally without prior discussion in the subgroup on economic issues. At the same time, Ukraine refuses to discuss the lifting of the transport blockade at the same meeting of the economic subgroup.




The Plenipotentiary of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, once again stressed that the introduction of external administrations is a necessary and temporary measure. Earlier, than Ukraine will fulfill the Minsk agreements Minsk agreements and there will be no comprehensive political settlement, the external administrations of the enterprise will not leave.


Due to the non-fulfillment by Kiev of an ultimatum on the lifting of the transport blockade of the people's republics, their leadership in early March made a decision on the withdrawal of enterprises from the Ukrainian jurisdiction and the introduction of external control on them.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 30 March 2017 03: 17
    +4
    Nationalize all the enterprises of Dill on a permanent basis in the ownership of the LDNR, because the current government of the Nazis will never fulfill the Minsk agreements.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 30 March 2017 03: 27
      +5
      Then, if nationalized, there will be a clamor and barking: "" Oh, property !!!!! "".
      At the same time, LDNR says that a temporary measure and property is not violated .......
      And the owners do not have access to this property and income from it !!!!!!!! That's funny. The owners still have the property right, but the property itself ------ no !!!! Ha-HA- HA HA !!!!!
      1. Eugene-Eugene
        30 March 2017 06: 14
        0
        "Land of the master, but ours"
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 30 March 2017 09: 09
          +1
          Probably the opposite: the master says: "The earth is mine, but ------ their" "!!!!!
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 30 March 2017 09: 48
        +1
        Quote: Reptiloid
        At the same time, LDNR says that the temporary measure and the property has not been violated ...

        There is nothing more permanent than temporary. The fact that now all taxes from economic activities go to the budget of the LDNR and not to Kucuyev became one of the reasons for stopping the loan from the IMF. This regime will not last long without credit support. In addition, the conditions for removing external control are indicated.
        Before Ukraine fulfills the Minsk agreements and there is no overall political settlement, the external administrations of the enterprise will not leave.
        Considering that Kiev is potentially unable to fulfill the Minsk agreements, this means that it (external administration) will never be removed.
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 30 March 2017 14: 18
          0
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          now all taxes from economic activities go to the budget of LDNR

          To collect taxes, it is necessary for enterprises to function. That's the problem, that because of the blockade, the enterprises stopped.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 March 2017 03: 33
    +3
    The problem is that the nationalization of enterprises by the unrecognized republics is a complex legal case. Tomorrow the Natsiks in Kiev will be replaced by "moderates", and what, the blockade will be lifted? And what if they take it off, what now, to return the enterprises back?
    There is now such a tangle, you can not unravel, you can only cut wassat
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 30 March 2017 03: 45
      +1
      If adequate people come to power in Ukraine and if they coexist peacefully with the Donbass, which is unlikely, since de jure they are another country, then this issue will disappear by itself.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 30 March 2017 04: 09
        +1
        If adequate people come to power in Ukraine and if they peacefully coexist with Donbass


        belay Well, this is from the realm of fantasy ... what to do with thousands and thousands of maydanutyh frostbitten on their heads ... even POROSHENKO is afraid of them.
        Adequate and normal people live in the LPNR ... but now it is hard for them because of these abnormalities.
        1. Spartanez300
          Spartanez300 30 March 2017 04: 27
          +1
          That is why I wrote: "unlikely" that is, practically impossible. In my opinion, Ukraine as a single country will no longer be, and as you rightly said, there are too many frostbitten and zombified.
        2. Niccola Mack
          Niccola Mack 30 March 2017 05: 32
          +2
          what to do with thousands and thousands of maydanutyh frostbitten on their heads ... even POROSHENKO is afraid of them.

          To Europe - they will fight with former ISIS members for benefits to refugees !!! laughing
          Let the Europeans get to know the "true fighters for democracy" better.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 30 March 2017 06: 40
        0
        Adequate people won't come there ... The territory is infected with hatred ..
        Quote: Spartanez300
        If adequate people come to power in Ukraine and if they coexist peacefully with the Donbass, which is unlikely, since de jure they are another country, then this issue will disappear by itself.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 30 March 2017 09: 17
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          ... The territory is infected with hatred ..

          It turned out that the other day I stumbled upon song flash mobs at Ukrainian train stations. Last year .... People of all ages sang Russian, Soviet songs. Protest ??. There is something to think about ... Here the link was once the article "" Russian groan of Ivan-Frankivsk "" .....
  3. Semenov
    Semenov 30 March 2017 04: 09
    +3
    Well, good - by such actions they are legally pushing the LPNR into Russia. Economists believe that within a year the standard of living in the LDNR will surpass the Ukrainian one, and in the future the republics may become the "assembly point" of the former Ukraine.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 30 March 2017 04: 14
      0
      and in the future, the republics can become the "assemblage point" of the former Ukraine.


      This is a very good idea ... but it requires a lot of investment and no shelling on the cities of the LPR.
  4. 72jora72
    72jora72 30 March 2017 04: 45
    +1
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Tomorrow the Natsiks in Kiev will be replaced by "moderate"

    Can you name them in more detail?
  5. P36M2
    P36M2 30 March 2017 05: 11
    +5
    It's time to stop talking to this Failstate for ANY issues at all. Everything collapses with them. The Poles, after firing a grenade launcher at the consulate with a ruin almost on the brink of war, closed the rest of the consulates and embassies, the IMF and the World Bank removed the issue of issuing tranches from the agenda throughout April, the London court ordered us to pay us $ 3 lard along with all fines, Europe threatens with sanctions for removal our Eurovision contestant and the cancellation of Eurovision itself. And this is all just for the last day. In the evening I read the news: there is a gigantic fire in Kiev, 50 hectares are burning, the fire is visible for kilometers.
    Ps Zakharchenko a couple of weeks ago gave Ukraine 2 months before the collapse. I think it will be earlier. In general, the horror of course.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 30 March 2017 05: 44
      +3
      Quote: P36М2
      In general, the horror of course.

      well, they arranged this horror for themselves
    2. Catherine II
      Catherine II 30 March 2017 11: 06
      +1
      Quote: P36М2
      Poles after firing a grenade launcher at a consulate with a ruin almost on the brink of war, closed the remaining consulates and embassies,

      they will be guarded by NGs as well as by the Russian consulates. Poland insists on such a measure. This is standard - it does not threaten any war
      The embassy is working staff-it is only about consulates
      Quote: P36М2
      Court of london

      appeal and delaying-it was clear from the very beginning ..
      Quote: P36М2
      Ukraine 2 months to the collapse. I think it will be sooner

      there are cases worse. only the main thing is to do something right, but there are problems with this in Kiev.
  6. P36M2
    P36M2 30 March 2017 06: 19
    0
    Quote: Lukich
    Quote: P36М2
    In general, the horror of course.

    well, they arranged this horror for themselves

    Well, how ... Small children live there, old people.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 30 March 2017 06: 33
      +1
      Quote: P36М2
      Well, how ... Small children live there, old people

      before jumping on the Maidan, it was necessary to think about the stapiks and children. yes, they don't think about them too much now
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 March 2017 06: 32
    0
    that the introduction of external administrations is a forced and temporary measure

    Why temporary? LDNR have repeatedly stated that they will not go to Ukraine anymore. So what's the problem? "Strike while the iron is hot". Ukraine will still not lag behind Donbass and will resolve its issues only by military means. This means that as long as the military component prevails, it is useless to resolve any issues through negotiations.
  8. krass
    krass 30 March 2017 06: 54
    +1
    Victoria Talakina, press secretary of the plenipotentiary representative of the Donetsk People's Republic in the contact group on Ukraine Denis Pushilin, announced Kiev's refusal to discuss the lifting of the transport blockade of Donbass at the talks in Minsk:

    one thing logically follows from this news that the LDNR is interested in lifting the transport blockade.
    This runs counter to the statements of Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky that the LDNR will only benefit from the reorientation to Russia.
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 30 March 2017 07: 55
      +2
      the transport blockade harms residents who at the very least have adapted to cross the demarcation line if necessary (and it occurs often). Now this is extremely complicated. That is also harmful.
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok 30 March 2017 23: 31
      0
      Quote: krass
      From this news, one thing logically follows that LDNR is interested in lifting the transport blockade. This goes in some way with the statements of Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky that LDNR will only benefit from reorientation to Russia.

      Politicians say a lot
  9. Siberian
    Siberian 30 March 2017 07: 47
    +1
    There is nothing more permanent than "temporary". All according to plan.
  10. 72jora72
    72jora72 30 March 2017 08: 57
    +1
    Quote: krass
    Victoria Talakina, press secretary of the plenipotentiary representative of the Donetsk People's Republic in the contact group on Ukraine Denis Pushilin, announced Kiev's refusal to discuss the lifting of the transport blockade of Donbass at the talks in Minsk:

    one thing logically follows from this news that the LDNR is interested in lifting the transport blockade.
    This runs counter to the statements of Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky that the LDNR will only benefit from the reorientation to Russia.

    The reorientation to Russia has practically taken place, and the transport blockade is hitting small businesses and ordinary residents ----- so one should not confuse warm with soft. Or is it just your national sarcasm?
  11. Altona
    Altona 30 March 2017 10: 19
    0
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    There is nothing more permanent than temporary. The fact that now all taxes from economic activities go to the budget of the LDNR and not to Kucuyev became one of the reasons for stopping the loan from the IMF. This regime will not last long without credit support. In addition, the conditions for removing external control are indicated.

    --------------------------------
    Kiev, by its own decision, canceled the supply of Donetsk coal to its industrial and energy facilities and the arrival of taxes to its own budget. LDNR acted quite logically. If you do not take coal due to the blockade, then you will not pay for the supplies, which means that we will not transfer taxes to you. Then go to Bandera, Trump, the IMF, wherever you want. And the republics themselves will look for other sales markets, and the money will be credited to their budget in full, especially Kiev and pensions owed 8-10 billion hryvnias. Let the owners wash themselves, Ukraine also does not stand on ceremony with the owners, Sberbank, for example.
  12. Altona
    Altona 30 March 2017 10: 22
    0
    Quote: P36М2
    And this is all just for the last day. In the evening I read the news: there is a gigantic fire in Kiev, 50 hectares are burning, the fire is visible for kilometers.

    ------------------------
    I remember two years ago they showed one Ukrainian on TV, said literally the following to a reporter: "What kind of Ukraine is the state? One misunderstanding. Until Putin and Russia come here, the state will not be here, and we will roll in the mud." laughing
    1. Catherine II
      Catherine II 30 March 2017 11: 08
      0
      Quote: Altona
      "Yes, what Ukraine is the state? One misunderstanding

      Autonomous Republic of Ukraine smile
      but things are never funny.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 30 March 2017 12: 30
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Until Putin and Russia come here, the state will not be here


      Do we need IT? Not to mention the internal devastation and hostility of 45% of the population, with the huge external debt of this non-state, only a madman can take on such a yoke. The West understood this long ago and is now "scratching a turnip" - how to move the arrows to the Russian Federation.

      The first step was to end funding for the 404.
  13. Lelek
    Lelek 30 March 2017 12: 18
    0
    (... Ukraine refuses to discuss lifting the transport blockade at the same meeting of the subgroup on economic issues.)

    An attempt to "calm down" the Nazi thugs will be a near-minute sentence for the "Kiev", therefore they are not discussing, and accordingly they are losing the LDNR. This is already openly acknowledged by the "sponsors" of the former Ukraine:

    Moreover, there are prerequisites for a coup d'etat organized by the security forces and the Nazis (SBU, Armed Forces of Ukraine, volunteers) is possible in Kiev.
  14. Sanitary and epidemiological station
    0
    It is time for Russia to introduce a retaliatory blockade and introduce a visa regime with the former republics of the USSR. Let these independent gentlemen live in their homeland. A Ukrainian patriot shouldn't live in Russia! Russia should not and should not be obliged to feed Poroshenko's subjects!
    1. Conrad
      Conrad 30 March 2017 21: 16
      0
      Quote: Sanitary and epidemiological station
      Russia should not and should not be obliged to feed Poroshenko's subjects!

      Don't la-la! You might think someone is feeding the Ukrainians in Russia! Russia feeds Ukrainians in Ukraine to the fullest. Here you and gas are twice cheaper than a friend Yanukovych. Here is the additional capitalization of banks, which, by the way, did not enter Crimea, but remained in Ukraine. (supposedly it was more profitable there). Here and a lot more could be added, for example, the expulsion of the militias by the decision of the Russian court to Ukraine, for minor violations of the very harsh migration legislation. The only fact is that the state of the Russian Federation treats Svidomo haters of Russia many times better than those who left this pigsty and are trying to legalize themselves in Russia. Obtaining citizenship alone is worth it!
      1. Sanitary and epidemiological station
        0
        And what la la ?! Ukrainians take away jobs from the indigenous population of Russia and take money out of Russia to Ukraine, thereby supporting the economy of Ukraine and the genocide of the Russian people that was staged there. It is unacceptable ! And the banks of the Russian Federation in Ukraine are a question for Putin and the fact that it is time for the grandfather, who played the peacemaker, to resign, together with the iPhone and the company!