Israel Explains Interest in Blue Flag Aviation Exercises: “Russians Are Here”

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The command of the Israeli Air Force announces the acceptance of applications for participation in the largest aviation training in the Middle East in 2017. We are talking about the international military exercises "Blue Flag", which have traditionally been organized by the Israeli air force, and which will be held this fall. In 2015, the 102 pilot (on 54 aircraft) from such countries as the USA, Poland, Greece and, of course, Israel itself took part in such exercises.

This year, "Blue Flag" promises a much more expanded composition, as promised by the head of the Israeli Air Forces International Contact Service, Lieutenant Colonel Richard Hecht. According to him, no less than 2017 airplanes from nearly a dozen countries of the world will be involved in international exercises in 100, including the USA, Greece, Italy, Poland, India, Germany and France.

Israel Explains Interest in Blue Flag Aviation Exercises: “Russians Are Here”


The Israeli Air Force Lt. Col. reports that many pilots of the world "will be able to learn from Israeli pilots." According to him, "despite the tiny airspace of Israel, the teachings are causing incredible interest this year." Richard Hecht described the presence of Russians in the region as the reason for the emergence of such interest on the part of representatives of the Air Force of a number of states. About this reports portal DefenseNews. From the statement of the representative of the Israeli Air Force:
The reasons? Here the Russians ... More routes for airplanes of other countries' airplanes on their way to Syria and other states of the region run here. Therefore, we actually offer a combat laboratory in which air pilots from various countries can hone the skills necessary to deal with the growing threats.


Does this mean that the Israeli military command is using the military presence of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria as an opportunity to advertise international exercises in Israel and as a kind of irritant that should be perceived as a threat and sharpened "next to it" (or "on it"? .. ) your skills, for example, NATO pilots?
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  1. +11
    21 March 2017 19: 22
    We’ll look at them and ourselves, I’m sure we will not disgrace ...
    1. +29
      21 March 2017 19: 26
      Causes? Here are the Russians ...

      Citizens are Jews, but who will pay money for advertising our VKS? wink
      1. +11
        21 March 2017 19: 34
        Quote: 79807420129
        Citizens are Jews, but who will pay money for advertising our VKS?

        The answer is in the question - these are "Jewish citizens." wink
        1. +1
          21 March 2017 19: 59
          take from advertising our air force from al-Assad and Hassan nasral and ayatol in Iran
        2. +5
          21 March 2017 20: 21
          "You, Zin, run into rudeness." So at V.S. Vysotsky in one of the songs. Sami recognize that tiny airspace. And still the Pug is bullied. Apparently strongly on Trump counts.
          1. +8
            21 March 2017 20: 34
            Quote: oleg-gr
            And still the Pug is bullied. Apparently strongly on Trump counts.

            Let them amuse themselves with their significance. wink
            1. +1
              21 March 2017 23: 02
              It is necessary to come to them with the words "Israel shalom", and change the flag to tricolor. As once in Kosovo, our landings changed someone's flag for the IDF.
          2. +1
            21 March 2017 21: 18
            Israel conducted teachings in Greece even before the trump, but it is obvious, and then did Israel know that trump would win, and when was Hussein Obama?
          3. +6
            21 March 2017 22: 37
            And what is bullying? Everything happens in our air space, we don’t do our bases anywhere, countries that do not conduct military operations with the Russian Federation are invited to the exercises. What claims, colleagues?
            1. +2
              22 March 2017 06: 43
              Quote: matak4b
              And what is bullying? Everything happens in our air space, we don’t do our bases anywhere, countries that do not conduct military operations with the Russian Federation are invited to the exercises. What claims, colleagues?

              Yes, they are exactly the same as in some NATO countries for the exercises of the Russian army in our territory, for example: [media = http: //vz.ru/news/2016/12/19/850294.html]
            2. +2
              22 March 2017 07: 03
              Duck no complaints. It’s called pouring gas next to the fire.
      2. +8
        21 March 2017 19: 48
        Quote: 79807420129
        Look, and here the gesheft is twisted

        holy! do not touch No.
      3. +4
        22 March 2017 00: 39
        According to him, at least 2017 aircraft from almost a dozen countries of the world will be involved in international exercises in the 100 year, including Israel, the USA, Greece, Italy, Poland, India, Germany and France.

        I think the interest is due to the fact that F-35 will "run in", establish cooperation and (at the same time) sell.
      4. 0
        22 March 2017 11: 47
        Jews, they are! Jews! (In a word)
    2. +4
      21 March 2017 19: 27
      Well, let them test their prodigies Fu-400 on our S-35s, let's see what happens. It is unlikely to reach a real conflict, but what the hell is not joking. Then we’ll see who has the “colored trash” and who has the “fifth generation super-duper plane” ... laughing
      1. +2
        21 March 2017 20: 01
        In addition to Israel, there are claims to other participants, at least to the Greeks, because the teachings will be held there, or is there a special love for Israel only?
        1. +4
          21 March 2017 21: 16
          Quote: sergey1971
          In addition to Israel, there are claims to other participants, at least to the Greeks, because the teachings will be held there, or is there a special love for Israel only?

          The airspace of the upcoming exercises is tiny, the skill of the pilots and tracking services should be the highest ... And if you are a loser, and also an intruder, what methods of influence do you propose to take? Or also depends on nationality and flag? I think Matthias Rust visited MY country - so far "It's a shame for the Power ..."
        2. +1
          21 March 2017 21: 52
          Yes, what claims .. I fly at least by myself boldly .. Only to others neither ..
          Quote: sergey1971
          In addition to Israel, there are claims to other participants, at least to the Greeks, because the teachings will be held there, or is there a special love for Israel only?
          1. +2
            21 March 2017 22: 52
            I want to immediately put all the points. Israel’s first thing with respect to Russia is only one desire to be friends and only friends, as in principle, and to all countries on earth there is not a single country in the world on earth in heaven and under water to whom Israel would have a claim especially to Russia and especially immigrants from Russia or the Soviet Union, Jews who are now living in Israel, they are either Chinese or Tatars just from the Israelis. but you also need to understand that you want the world to get ready for war and the good must be with your fists and better to conduct competitions and olympiads and there to prove who is stronger and better than to see each other in sight on the battlefield and let us have only virtual fights and real friendship
            1. +1
              22 March 2017 08: 55
              Zionists are constantly pulling Russia into conflict, (a fire in Ukraine is an example) a strong Russia is not needed.
      2. +2
        21 March 2017 20: 07
        Quote: Alex_1973
        Well, let them test their prodigies Fu-400 on our S-35s, let's see what happens. It is unlikely to reach a real conflict, but what the hell is not joking. Then we’ll see who has the “colored trash” and who has the “fifth generation super-duper plane” ... laughing

        Here in a neighboring topic they wrote that the Americans are scalping the F-22 invisible. And they are trying to get on something more stunning. So, until we have time, let's see and compare the results.
      3. +4
        21 March 2017 22: 38
        Alex, I think that if you had to sit in the cabins of the S-400 or F-35, then you would not be so belligerent
        1. +8
          22 March 2017 05: 00
          Quote: matak4b
          if you needed to sit in the cabins of the S-400

          I'm wildly sorry hi but shaw, does she have a cabin? belay So I’ll tell you, if it is there, where can I get an idiot who would agree to ride there? what As my friend Monet told his aunt Sofa, with Deribasovskaya, who lived in a house with a pharmacy. Don't you know Aunt Sof? Well, how, how. Sweetest woman, just sweetest. There was still such a story, now I will tell you. Her husband, Yakov Izraelevich, well, the one who played the funeral at the trumpet, suggested she get a divorce. For this, Aunt Sofa categorically refused: - "Yasha, he took the widow, and you will leave the widow." And when she could not bear the sight of her husband’s suffering from living together, she decided to poison him. For fidelity, she poured into his glass everything that she found — cyanide potassium and snowstorm. God, how he was exhausted, it seems time to die, and once. So she said, "Monya, never overpay for a train ticket that goes one way." laughing
          1. 0
            22 March 2017 09: 42
            Quote: novobranets
            Quote: matak4b
            if you needed to sit in the cabins of the S-400

            I'm wildly sorry hi but shaw, does she have a cabin? belay So I’ll tell you, if it is there, where can I get an idiot who would agree to ride there? what As my friend Monet told his aunt Sofa, with Deribasovskaya, who lived in a house with a pharmacy. Don't you know Aunt Sof? Well, how, how. Sweetest woman, just sweetest. There was still such a story, now I will tell you. Her husband, Yakov Izraelevich, well, the one who played the funeral at the trumpet, suggested she get a divorce. For this, Aunt Sofa categorically refused: - "Yasha, he took the widow, and you will leave the widow." And when she could not bear the sight of her husband’s suffering from living together, she decided to poison him. For fidelity, she poured into his glass everything that she found — cyanide potassium and snowstorm. God, how he was exhausted, it seems time to die, and once. So she said, "Monya, never overpay for a train ticket that goes one way." laughing


            ))) Moreover, there besides the cockpit and the command post (KP) there are also bomb shelters and MCC
            ))) we have such "smart" Jews, it is not for nothing that they were "God-chosen" for their TALENT)))
    3. +7
      21 March 2017 19: 28
      Why not ... Normal practice ... All on each other are honing their drafts.
    4. +4
      21 March 2017 19: 30
      Quote: NEXUS
      We’ll look at them and ourselves, I’m sure we will not disgrace ...

      So they didn’t invite ours. They are afraid to look pale against the background of Russian pilots.
      1. +8
        21 March 2017 19: 32
        Quote: Pirogov
        So they didn’t invite ours. They are afraid to look pale against the background of Russian pilots.

        And we will look carefully from afar ... and pilots and airborne soldiers ... in general, without violating this idyll ...
      2. +6
        21 March 2017 19: 43
        Quote: Pirogov
        Quote: NEXUS
        We’ll look at them and ourselves, I’m sure we will not disgrace ...

        So they didn’t invite ours. They are afraid to look pale against the background of Russian pilots.

        You can’t invite. The teachings are open. An application is being submitted. If it is accepted, then the country may be settled.
        1. +8
          21 March 2017 19: 53
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          You can’t invite. The teachings are open. An application is being submitted. If it is accepted, then the country may be settled.

          I beg you Aron, do not tell.
          1. +2
            21 March 2017 20: 02
            Quote: Pirogov

            I beg you Aron, do not tell.

            You have other information.
            1. +10
              21 March 2017 20: 46
              Aron, read carefully the text of your lieutenant colonel Richard Heh, there it is also clearly written:
              1. what are the reasons:
              Causes? Here are the Russians ...

              2. continue to offer a training ground for
              Air Force pilots from various countries can hone the skills necessary to deal with growing threats.

              That is - Here the Russians are flying, let's collect the Caudle and fly, nerve the potential ENEMY.
              So it goes.
            2. +2
              21 March 2017 20: 49
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              You have other information.

              Below: kirieeleyson clearly explained, read carefully the article.
        2. +2
          21 March 2017 20: 06
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          You can’t invite. The teachings are open. An application is being submitted. If it is accepted, then the country may be settled.

          Well, it turns out that submitting an application does not mean automatic participation.
          1. +2
            21 March 2017 20: 11
            Quote: activator

            Well, it turns out that submitting an application does not mean automatic participation.

            Of course. Ours do not always fall on the "Red Flag" in the United States.
            1. +2
              21 March 2017 20: 26
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              Of course. Ours do not always fall on the "Red Flag" in the United States.

              And for what reasons? like strategic partners
              1. +1
                21 March 2017 21: 14
                Quote: activator
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Of course. Ours do not always fall on the "Red Flag" in the United States.

                And for what reasons? like strategic partners

                The United States may have its own vision of planned exercises. There may be air forces from countries that do not recognize Israel. Etc.
                1. +1
                  21 March 2017 21: 40
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  There may be air forces from countries that do not recognize Israel. Etc.

                  In addition to Lebanon, Syria and Iran, nothing comes to mind what
                  1. +1
                    21 March 2017 22: 27
                    Quote: activator
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    There may be air forces from countries that do not recognize Israel. Etc.

                    In addition to Lebanon, Syria and Iran, nothing comes to mind what

                    Morocco, Pakistan, Indonesia. Enough.
                2. 0
                  21 March 2017 22: 42
                  Aron, the reasons are much more commonplace. This is a budget issue. Not always have money to participate in the red flag
                  1. 0
                    22 March 2017 09: 46
                    Quote: matak4b
                    Aron, the reasons are much more commonplace. This is a budget issue. Not always have money to participate in the red flag


                    ) Jews have no money? ) ...
            2. +1
              22 March 2017 12: 28
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              Of course. Ours do not always fall on the Red Flag in the USA

              The "red flag" is women’s critical days, and the "blue flag" is?, ..... really doves !!! wassat
      3. +1
        21 March 2017 19: 46
        We have already flown. In the "war of attrition" ...
      4. +5
        21 March 2017 20: 04
        Quote: Pirogov
        Quote: NEXUS
        We’ll look at them and ourselves, I’m sure we will not disgrace ...

        So they didn’t invite ours. They are afraid to look pale against the background of Russian pilots.

        After all, the Americans were extremely outraged not by the professionalism and hooliganism of our Sukharas.
        A couple more calls of their boxes to the Black Sea, and they will be forced to hire teams in Mexico.
      5. +1
        21 March 2017 20: 05
        we’ll invite you to tank biathlon. By the way, and who said they did not invite? please, why not show your skill in teachings as friends better than in battle as opponents
    5. +9
      21 March 2017 19: 31
      "Blue Flag" is the creative name of the exercise. The blues of all countries to Israel gop. laughing
      Triumph crews are trained to detect and classify targets.
      1. +12
        21 March 2017 19: 40
        Quote: kapitan92
        "Blue Flag" is the creative name of the exercise. The blues of all countries to Israel gop. laughing
        Triumph crews are trained to detect and classify targets.

        You are so funny about the blue berets. lol
        1. +11
          21 March 2017 19: 43
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          You are so funny about the blue berets.

          We do so on bl @@@@ and do not call the exercises. hi
          1. +4
            21 March 2017 20: 03
            Quote: kapitan92

            We do so on bl @@@@ and do not call the exercises. hi

            What is your name?
            1. +13
              21 March 2017 20: 21
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              What is your name?

              There is some practice in assigning code names to exercises. At the venue, according to the forces involved, allied orientation, season, etc.
              "Caucasus", "West." "Shield of the Union." "Shaft". "Ocean", "Summer", "Brotherhood of Arms", etc.
              hi
        2. +10
          21 March 2017 19: 44
          In our country, unlike you, pederasts do not serve in blue berets! And this is the norm for you, so we can quite make jokes, you yourself deserve it. negative
          1. +3
            21 March 2017 20: 55
            The controversial statement that they have this norm. The Israeli army is a compulsory service for both men and women. And as you know, joint stay in a confined space of the opposite sexes of pederasty does not contribute
            1. +2
              21 March 2017 21: 03
              Quote: Rich
              The controversial statement that they have this norm. The Israeli army is a compulsory service for both men and women. And as you know, joint stay in a confined space of the opposite sexes of pederasty does not contribute

              But it does not interfere. feel
            2. 0
              21 March 2017 21: 22
              Quote: Rich
              The controversial statement that they have this norm. The Israeli army is a compulsory service for both men and women. And as you know, joint stay in a confined space of the opposite sexes of pederasty does not contribute

              Israel is a democratic (well, very!) Country. And fulfilling the standards of Western democracy, they are brought up there from kindergarten on peculiar values. Every third film there should cover the hard life of the blue, the third part is pink, the third part is hermaphrodite.
              My wife doesn’t detach herself from an English series like "She wrote the murder." I noticed this feature.
              This is our pornographic exhibition in Moscow doused with urine or something specific. We are much more conservative in this regard.
              1. +4
                21 March 2017 22: 05
                Quote: dubowitskij.vick
                Israel is a democratic (well, very!) Country. And fulfilling the standards of Western democracy, they are brought up there from kindergarten on peculiar values. Every third film there should cover the hard life of the blue, the third part is pink, the third part is hermaphrodite.


                Rave. you carry ..
                1. +3
                  22 March 2017 00: 08
                  Quote: Maki Avellevich
                  Quote: dubowitskij.vick
                  Israel is a democratic (well, very!) Country. And fulfilling the standards of Western democracy, they are brought up there from kindergarten on peculiar values. Every third film there should cover the hard life of the blue, the third part is pink, the third part is hermaphrodite.

                  Rave. you carry ..

                  Which state can be considered the most “blue” on the planet? No doubt Israel. Tel Aviv, along with Amsterdam, New York and Berlin, is one of the most important centers of global homosexuality. Israeli law contains the most liberal legal norms in the West with regard to blue and pink. In Tel Aviv and Haifa, a world-class infrastructure has been created and operates: clubs, consulting centers, a network of relevant trade institutions, hotels, etc. - for homosexuals and lesbians. Massive and magnificent gay parades are held in the Jewish state.

                  Homosexuality in Israel is rapidly becoming younger - a group of researchers from the University of Tel Aviv came to this conclusion. Dr. Guy Shilo, commenting on the results of research conducted under his leadership, said: “Fifteen years ago, homosexuals began to speak openly about themselves only after 22 years. Today the bar is at 16 years old and continues to fall. ” More than 20 propaganda clubs of the Association of Gays and Lesbians provide, you know, what kind of “psychological assistance” to Jewish teenagers aged 14 and over.

                  http://tanatocronos.livejournal.com/152462.html
                  1. +3
                    22 March 2017 07: 42
                    Quote: dubowitskij.vick
                    Which state can be considered the most “blue” on the planet?


                    It seems that this question excites you seriously. can drop in?
                    1. +2
                      22 March 2017 10: 21
                      Quote: Maki Avellevich
                      Quote: dubowitskij.vick
                      Which state can be considered the most “blue” on the planet?

                      It seems that this question excites you seriously. can drop in?

                      I feel sorry for the nation turning itself into animals. Aren't you sorry for yours?
      2. +2
        21 March 2017 20: 04
        Quote: kapitan92
        "Blue Flag" is the creative name of the exercise. The blues of all countries to Israel gop.

        Yes, the blue flag seems to be rainbow Yes
      3. 0
        21 March 2017 20: 07
        and the Israeli Air Force crews on the Triumphs. it will be a good test for them in practice
      4. +7
        21 March 2017 22: 56
        Quote: kapitan92
        "Blue Flag" is the creative name of the exercise. Blue of all countries in Israel gop

        In China, the Blue Shield air defense exercises were held in the Gobi Desert in 2014.
        There were joint Russian-Chinese exercises, Blue Shield of the World 2009. against pirates ... In the Kantemirov division with the Moldavians they trained under the same name ...
        Now, if the exercises were called the "Rainbow Flag" ... yes ...
        In general, Israel is considered the most "blue" state, even Europe and did not stand nearby
        Homosexuality in Israel: A Frightening Truth



        A real sensation was the photo posted on the official page of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) on Facebook.

        The picture shows two Israeli soldiers walking down the street holding hands. The caption under the photo reads: “This is a month of pride. Do you know that the Israel Defense Forces treat all their soldiers equally? Let's see how many posts this photo will receive.” As stated in the material, the IDF is proud to be in this sense one of the most progressive armies in the world, maintains close ties with the homosexual community, solves the problems faced by gay soldiers, and creates all conditions for equal service of soldiers regardless of their orientation .

        On Facebook, the published snapshot gathered more than 1400 comments in different languages: many users express support for such a policy, but there are also critics. "The army and that * were built up ... 9019 people (the number of likes at the time of publication of the comment - approx. Ed.). We are ready to gladly drop in a friend’s point or substitute your own," one of the Russian-speaking users wrote indignantly.

        ISRAELI ARMY ADVERTISES GAY SOLDIERS
    6. +8
      21 March 2017 19: 32
      Well, well, the calculations of our S-300 and S-400 air defense systems will gain excellent opportunities for detecting various types of airplanes, so to speak, they will conduct training training on the real goals of aircraft armed with Western countries lol
      1. +7
        21 March 2017 19: 49
        We’ll check the new VK \ computing complex \ and the algorithms of combat control and application for all types of aircraft of a potential enemy practically in combat conditions ... And this is good
        1. +3
          21 March 2017 20: 01
          Quote: Ascetic
          We’ll check the new VK \ computing complex \ and the algorithms of combat control and application for all types of aircraft of a potential enemy practically in combat conditions ... And this is good

          Exactly training for real goals that are also the aircraft of a potential enemy is just a dream for calculating our air defense systems
        2. 0
          21 March 2017 21: 23
          Sivkova read ...
      2. +5
        21 March 2017 20: 10
        Mr. Vatnik, when you write ours, you clarify that yours is Iranian, otherwise you are misleading people think that you mean Russia. maybe your native language is not Russian and you cannot accurately formulate your koment so write in Farsi
        1. +6
          21 March 2017 20: 26
          Quote: sergey1971
          Mr. Vatnik, when you write ours, you clarify that yours is Iranian, otherwise you are misleading people think that you mean Russia. maybe your native language is not Russian and you cannot accurately formulate your koment so write in Farsi

          Padded jacket OUR Russian ... Checked! Take it easy ... hi
          1. +4
            21 March 2017 21: 20
            This is noticeable especially when uploading videos from Iranian television and explains in detail what they say, because in Russia every second linguist speaks Farsi like that?
            1. +7
              21 March 2017 21: 34
              Quote: sergey1971
              This is noticeable especially when uploading videos from Iranian television and explains in detail what they say, because in Russia every second linguist speaks Farsi like that?

              They are closer to us and nothing surprising ... And Russia (capitalized) Got it?
              1. +1
                21 March 2017 23: 02
                now it’s clear now, please specify to whom u
                then to us? as I understand it, you gentleman speak of yourself exclusively as a human being in the plural. Type state is me? I think that a person has the right to speak only from himself, not substituting others. Well, if of course you do not consider yourself Napoleon, by the way, do you mean it, Russians or Ukrainians Tatars Uzbeks? since the site is Russian-speaking do you think that probably on behalf of the Russians right? But in Israel there are also a lot of ethnic Russians, do you also represent them, or whom, within Russia, the cosmos of the universe, whom when?
          2. +6
            21 March 2017 22: 45
            A padded jacket is Russian by nationality, a Shiite Islamist in spirit, an Iranian state employee on salary.
            1. +3
              21 March 2017 23: 26
              Quote: matak4b
              A padded jacket is Russian by nationality, a Shiite Islamist in spirit, an Iranian state employee on salary.

              Joke, joke Yes soon the sowing season, but the “padded jacket” of the walk-behind tractor still doesn’t! am
              The white fluffy animal will come to you soon, Israelis IN! love
              Like, says fellow "Meehan" - "I smell genes"
              1. +1
                21 March 2017 23: 37
                Quote: Dym71
                soon the sowing season, but the “padded jacket” of the walk-behind tractor still doesn’t!

                No dirt, I will not plant potatoes this year. I’ll plant the whole space with strawberries smile
                1. 0
                  22 March 2017 00: 32
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  this year I will not plant potatoes to plant the whole space with strawberries

                  It will not work, as with shoe polish? what
            2. +7
              21 March 2017 23: 35
              Quote: matak4b
              A padded jacket is Russian by nationality, a Shiite Islamist in spirit, an Iranian state employee on salary.

              Poor thing, how do you like an Israeli Jew lol
              1. +2
                22 March 2017 00: 05
                a padded jacket, or it may just stop everyone reacting to the provocations of “these”, they’re here specially, so that the Russians anger us, let them grind with each other, they’re warriors only on the couch in the internet, in a PM I understand immediately I turn on the back lol and cry, ask to ban, the server is in Germany ....
            3. 0
              21 March 2017 23: 39
              really reincarnation maxim shevchenko? the immaculate conception from whom and where did the gases occur in Tehran or the sector? although that Ukrainian and a padded jacket is purely Russian, especially to the waist, but who knows?
              1. 0
                22 March 2017 09: 56
                Quote: sergey1971
                really reincarnation maxim shevchenko? the immaculate conception from whom and where did the gases occur in Tehran or the sector? although that Ukrainian and a padded jacket is purely Russian, especially to the waist, but who knows?

                )) Shevchenko is Ukrainian?
                )) M-ya ... If the crypto Jew Shevchenko is Ukrainian, then DAM is definitely a whale
          3. 0
            21 March 2017 23: 43
            according to the principle of who is not a Jew, and even more so not an Israeli that is already Russian so?
        2. +4
          21 March 2017 21: 53
          Quote: sergey1971
          Mr. Vatnik you when you write ours you specify please that your it is Iranian

          Calm down Israeli citizen I live in Russia
          1. 0
            21 March 2017 23: 07
            I didn’t question your place of residence, I put it and I’m sure that you gentleman do not associate yourself with her at all when you assure everyone that you are defending the interests of Russia, but I see that you are defending the interests of Iran and your knowledge of Farsi and attempts to pass off black as white which is by no means the interests of Russia are proof that you live while in Russia it is not at all evidence that you defend its interests in Russia, and the Persians, too, you know in Israel, including ethnic
            1. +6
              21 March 2017 23: 42
              Quote: sergey1971
              I didn’t question your place of residence, I put it and I’m sure that you gentleman do not associate yourself with her at all when you assure everyone that you are defending the interests of Russia, but I see that you are defending the interests of Iran and your knowledge of Farsi and attempts to pass off black as white which is by no means the interests of Russia are proof that you live while in Russia it is not at all evidence that you defend its interests in Russia, and the Persians, too, you know in Israel, including ethnic

              Jewish tales begin again smile as you say the truth about your regime, you immediately see anti-Semites Iranians and Hezbollah everywhere lol
              Of course, I understand that the Israelis act so on the Israelis for you, but you go to the doctor, otherwise you’ll dump your phobias here on the forum. Shame on you should be citizens lol
              1. +3
                22 March 2017 00: 08
                and where was the quilted jacket when you wrote the truth about the Israeli regime? probably you wrote it like that no one noticed her, but I say you need to start writing in your native Farsi, maybe then you will get better. by the way you have soon ashura accept my congratulations I wish you well note it
            2. +3
              22 March 2017 06: 02
              Quote: sergey1971
              Well, it’s not in the interests of Russia to prove that, but the fact that you live in Russia is not at all evidence that you are defending its interests in Russia


              Already made YOU a comment - Russia is capitalized! You’re not capable of “working on mistakes” (ie, d-lee), or do you emphasize your attitude towards Russia?
          2. +1
            21 March 2017 23: 10
            Mr. Vatnik happened a lot of progress; you recognized Israel; in your case, they usually say a Zionist entity in the Middle East
            1. +3
              21 March 2017 23: 43
              Quote: sergey1971
              Mr. Vatnik happened a lot of progress; you recognized Israel; in your case, they usually say a Zionist entity in the Middle East

              I myself will figure out what to call your state.
              1. +1
                22 March 2017 00: 09
                All the same, he recognized that the state has already progressed, and for such shoals you can get it by your turban
    7. +3
      21 March 2017 20: 24
      Quote: NEXUS
      We’ll look at them and ourselves, I’m sure we will not disgrace ...

      As if they didn’t arrange a provocation ... They are still pros in this business ... They are very angry with Russia and Syria! It is necessary to prepare very well in all plans ..! The call is accepted "comrades" ...
      1. +4
        21 March 2017 20: 27
        Quote: Totsky
        As if they didn’t arrange a provocation ... They are still pros in this business ... They are very angry with Russia and Syria!

        Under the gun of our air defense systems? They are pilots, not kamikaze ...
        1. +5
          21 March 2017 21: 08
          Quote: NEXUS
          Under the gun of our air defense systems? They are pilots, not kamikaze ...

          Their impudence is unlimited for now ... Russia is working on it!
          1. +1
            21 March 2017 22: 35
            Quote: Totsky
            Their impudence is unlimited for now ... Russia is working on it!


            Yes, it works in such a way that does not prevent Israel from wetting the terrorists and does the right thing.
            It’s also correct that Putin doesn’t care about different bravado speeches like yours wassat .
            1. +2
              22 March 2017 12: 50
              Quote: Wiskar
              which does not stop Israel from wetting the terrorists

              Moreover, not a single terrorist was injured. About hezbola is not necessary, they ISIS and Nasra (both banned in Russia) urinate. Where do you work from? From the embassy in Moscow or from the center in Frankfurt?
        2. +9
          21 March 2017 21: 29
          And I am with Totsky I agree: what he will, and there I think everyone is imprisoned for an instant reaction. The first decisions, at those distances, will be made by the duty officer, of strong nerves to him angry
          NEXUSThey are certainly not kamikaze, but do you know how a fighter pilot differs from the Lord God? God clearly knows that he is not a fighter. Once again, strong nerves DS
      2. 0
        21 March 2017 22: 37
        Quote: Totsky
        As if they didn’t arrange a provocation ... They are still pros in this business ... They are very angry with Russia and Syria! It is necessary to prepare very well in all plans ..! The call is accepted "comrades" ...


        Very angry with Putin, which allows Israel to slaughter terrorists in Syria and Lebanon ... Evil, evil .. Wow wassat
    8. SSR
      +2
      21 March 2017 21: 52
      Quote: NEXUS
      We’ll look at them and ourselves, I’m sure we will not disgrace ...

      +
      It would be strange if the Israelis flying on American planes learned to "circumvent" the "patriots" .... they should give any of their imaginary and not even "victory", pass off the Israeli "genius" of technology.
      Trade is not only the engine of the economy, but also aids in the development of new and cheaper old ones.
      Personally, I advocate that ours would have been able to launch at least once the means of warfare such as electronic warfare and air defense by 50%, give food for thought to manufacturers of Western equipment, for 20 years.
      In general, I am for a peaceful sky like in Ukraine.
      PS.
      A paddle massage is replaced by an acupuncture rod. )))
      lol
      1. 0
        21 March 2017 22: 38
        Quote from S.S.R.
        Personally, I advocate that ours would have been able to launch at least once the means of warfare such as electronic warfare and air defense by 50%, give food for thought to manufacturers of Western equipment, for 20 years.


        S-300 in Greece was tested by all and sundry, including Israel. wink
        1. +2
          22 March 2017 00: 13
          and urgently requested from amers in a set of F -35 for a set of diapers laughing
        2. SSR
          0
          22 March 2017 05: 40
          Quote: Wiskar
          Quote from S.S.R.
          Personally, I advocate that ours would have been able to launch at least once the means of warfare such as electronic warfare and air defense by 50%, give food for thought to manufacturers of Western equipment, for 20 years.

          S-300 in Greece was tested by all and sundry, including Israel. wink

          С300 of Greece ... so bearded ... and ancient that you can drink, forget about it.
    9. +1
      21 March 2017 23: 03
      Quote: NEXUS
      We’ll look at them and ourselves, I’m sure we will not disgrace ...

      What are you implying that if there are no exercises in a neighboring country, then the Russian Aerospace Forces have a different attitude to the matter, shamefully? Or should everyone start to fuss about the arrival of Greek, French and other pilots in Israel, is any revelation coming? Our pilots, oh God, will know that there are NATO pilots 300 km away, it’s unseen, if Russia participated in the exercises, then you can still talk about something, but you can send exercises, you can send observers if possible.
  2. +1
    21 March 2017 19: 28
    I don’t know what the Greeks do there. But the Egyptians are clearly not enough ...
  3. +4
    21 March 2017 19: 30
    Let me guess: the Indians on their Su will be in the role of "aggressors", and the rest of the heavenly gang will work for them.
    P.S. And why shouldn't the Syrian Air Force file an application? bully
    1. +2
      21 March 2017 19: 33
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Let me guess: the Indians on their Su will be in the role of "aggressors", and the rest of the heavenly gang will work for them.

      The big question is who will work out on whom ...
    2. +1
      21 March 2017 19: 40
      Is there an air force there?
      1. +1
        21 March 2017 20: 01
        Quote: rruvim
        Is there an air force there?

        Where exactly?
        1. 0
          21 March 2017 20: 10
          In Syria? Stayed?
          1. 0
            21 March 2017 21: 15
            Quote: rruvim
            In Syria? Stayed?

            Weak, but quite working.
            1. 0
              21 March 2017 21: 25
              Well, well ... Even from the "sofa" is not visible!
          2. 0
            21 March 2017 22: 03
            There is something:
            https://topwar.ru/104080-mig-31bm-nad-siriey-pily
            ulya-ot-oshibok-vvs-koalicii.html
            And next to this, everything else looks pathetic, though there are few of them.
    3. +1
      21 March 2017 20: 52
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      P.S. And why shouldn't the Syrian Air Force file an application?

      Cool idea, I would love to watch everything that came out of it and how.
    4. +2
      22 March 2017 12: 53
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Indians on their Su will be in the role of "aggressors", and the rest of the heavenly gang will work on them.

      And in the end, the Indians, as always, pile on the rest of the gang of jackals. laughing
  4. +1
    21 March 2017 19: 30
    They decided to troll us, they use Russia as a kind of negative factor! Politely speaking, at least this is very stupid, and such an attitude towards Russia, permissiveness and neglect can go sideways with the Israelis.
    1. +2
      21 March 2017 19: 59
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      They decided to troll us, they use Russia as a kind of negative factor! Politely speaking, at least this is very stupid, and such an attitude towards Russia, permissiveness and neglect can go sideways with the Israelis.


      Well. if you look from their perspective, everything is done right, we have accumulated information about the tactics of using our airborne forces in Syria and will now simulate the methods of counteracting our tactical aviation during exercises.
      Better late than never recourse
      1. +1
        21 March 2017 20: 13
        Stanislas hi peace to you ! hiI haven’t been on the site for a long time, now you’ll see more often hi
      2. 0
        21 March 2017 21: 26
        I like the phrase "tactical aviation." Curious...
  5. +7
    21 March 2017 19: 31
    Any villainy can be expected from Israel. Under the guise of exercises, they may well strike at Syria. It may not come to blows at Russian bases, but the Israeli Air Force is quite capable of provoking the Syrian troops in retaliation.
    1. +1
      21 March 2017 19: 45
      Yes, they apply them constantly. Goals - IRGC and Hezbollah units.
      1. +2
        22 March 2017 12: 58
        Quote: rruvim
        Goals - IRGC and Hezbollah units.

        Well, of course, who would doubt it. On their own (ISIS and Nasru-banned in Russia) you do not shoot. Only for those who fight with them. Is a viscar your boss? Broadcast from the center in Frankfurt? Or from the us embassy in Moscow? am
    2. +1
      21 March 2017 21: 06
      Quote: Vita VKO
      the Israeli air forces are quite capable of provoking the Syrian troops in response.


      Do you like to call Israel’s attacks on terrorists, warehouses of terrorist weapons and caravans of weapons for terrorists provocations request



      During a briefing for journalists in China, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Russia has not changed its policy regarding Israeli attacks in Syria. hi
    3. 0
      21 March 2017 22: 10
      Quote: Vita VKO
      Any villainy can be expected from Israel. Under the guise of exercises, they may well strike at Syria


      see that you would not be hit on the kumpol under the guise of exercises.

      if there is nothing sensible to write, you can sit out.
      1. +1
        21 March 2017 22: 54
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        see that you would not be inflicted on the kumpol

        It seems to be in the "point". They want to put NATO under attack during the exercises, as if they didn’t support us on the Palestinian issue, they would receive gifts from the "terrorists."
  6. +5
    21 March 2017 19: 34
    Yes, NATO flies its nostrils across all our borders. We don’t fly like that, we dive there, we shoot there. One claim.
  7. +1
    21 March 2017 19: 46
    hone the skills needed to deal with growing threats.
    do not break the sharpener
    1. +6
      21 March 2017 20: 02
      Quote: izya top
      do not break the sharpener

      laughing and there is something to break after the rabbi ... request
      1. 0
        21 March 2017 20: 13
        Quote: Tersky
        after the rabbi.

        the rabbi's guillotine is so small pocket lol
        1. +4
          21 March 2017 20: 26
          Quote: izya top
          the rabbi's guillotine is so small pocket

          exactly.... Yes and if a rabbi with a hangover? The hand of the God-chosen was shaken and the son of Israel didn’t have anything left to break from the sharpener ... feel
          1. +7
            21 March 2017 21: 00
            Quote: Tersky
            The hand of the God-chosen was shaken and the son of Israel didn’t have anything left to break from the sharpener ...

            Anecdote
            History lesson. Teacher: - Who will say how the ancient Jews lived? - I guess it’s bad, since circumcision was then done with stone axes. laughing
            1. +1
              21 March 2017 22: 15
              Well, if such a booze went!

              Our Russian Ivan is brave! Yesterday I fought with a bear and not only repulsed his den, but also completely sucked his right paw!
              1. +7
                21 March 2017 23: 41
                Quote: Maki Avellevich
                Well, if such a booze went!
                Our Russian Ivan is brave! Yesterday I fought with a bear and not only repulsed his den, but also completely sucked his right paw!

                Average smile Keep the answer for Vanya:
                Little Moisha comes home, comes to mom, and says:
                - Mom, mom, and I wrote in the column Nationality today at school today, I am Russian!
                “Son, what did you eat for lunch every day?”
                - The chicken.
                - Here, and now you will eat potatoes, like all Russian children.
                Moysha was upset, went to dad, thinks maybe dad will approve. Coming to dad:
                - Dad, dad, and today I wrote in the column Nationality, I’m Russian!
                - Son, what did you go to school every day on?
                - By car, Dad!
                - Here, and now you will ride a tram, like all Russian children.
                Moisha very upset comes to his grandfather, suddenly he approves:
                - Grandfather, grandfather, and today I wrote in the column Nationality, I’m Russian!
                - Granddaughters, how much did you get pocket money every day in school?
                - stolnik grandfather!
                - Here, and now you will receive a rupe., Like all Russian children.
                Moysha was completely upset; he sits down with his family for dinner. Everyone is eating a chicken, winking at each other. Moysha is eating potatoes. Then mom asks Moisha:
                “Well, son, how are you going to be Russian?”
                - Just a couple of hours as a Russian, but already I hate you !!!
              2. +3
                22 March 2017 01: 28
                Quote: Maki Avellevich
                Well, if such a booze went!
                Our Russian Ivan is brave! Yesterday I fought with a bear and not only repulsed his den, but also completely sucked his right paw!

                Why so stupid? The Bears and I are twin brothers. And the gypsies dance tethered in the morning to us, in the evening to the bear.
                1. 0
                  22 March 2017 07: 45
                  Quote: dubowitskij.vick
                  Why so stupid? The Bears and I are twin brothers. And the gypsies dance tethered in the morning to us, in the evening to the bear.


                  Well, that defused the situation. wink
            2. +4
              21 March 2017 22: 39
              Quote: Ascetic
              circumcision was then done with stone axes.

              laughing good Good health Stanislav! One hundred years, one hundred winters! I already inadvertently assumed that you left the site. I am glad that I was mistaken in my forecasts. The site is now veterans oh how necessary ...
  8. 0
    21 March 2017 19: 52
    You look at the map. When the IDF takes off at all air bases, even from the Negev desert, a U-turn only over the Mediterranean Sea. Not enough space! When the MIG-29 took off from Damascus, a U-turn over the Golan is not enough space! Everyone knows that. The Syrians have always done this over Lebanon.
  9. 0
    21 March 2017 19: 55
    Why should Israel train pilots of potential enemies, all these countries voted in the UN against Israel and supported the terror.
    1. +12
      21 March 2017 20: 14
      Quote: Rabinovich
      voted in the UN against Israel and supported the terror.

      contradict yourself in one sentence request Israel is terror, and therefore voted against
    2. +1
      21 March 2017 20: 15
      Rabinovich, and you beat them all for that !!!! am
    3. +4
      21 March 2017 20: 38
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Why should Israel train pilots of potential enemies, all these countries voted in the UN against Israel and supported the terror.

      yeah Yes , against the Israeli occupation of the Syrian Golan, which did not receive international recognition, not the UN Security Council, nor the UN General Assembly. It's a shame, you know ... recourse . And what about the resolution of the UN Security Council number 497 adopted December 17 1981 year? What about the fulfillment by the sons of Israel?
      1. +1
        21 March 2017 20: 50
        The UN is an Arab interests club supporting terrorism.
        It's good that the Golan at least took it, it was necessary more. Now there is a wonderful ski resort, neither Hizbullah nor igil. Even the Arabs living there thank Israel for their salvation.
        1. 0
          21 March 2017 21: 12
          Only shoot on your part ...
        2. +14
          21 March 2017 21: 21
          Quote: Rabinovich
          The UN is an Arab interests club supporting terrorism.

          Rabinowicz good you are just a master good with a flick of the wrist, you all recorded at the UN and the Arabs laughing You dear have made an evening, all IN. good Ingenious, everything is simple. bully
        3. +6
          21 March 2017 21: 30
          Quote: Rabinovich
          It's good that the Golan at least took it, it was necessary more.


          Somewhere I already heard it. Eretz Yisrael (Land of Israel), the Promised Land from the Nile to Euphrates. The Zionist Reich ...


          After the Arab revolutions, Greater Israel will rule the Middle East?
          1. +2
            21 March 2017 21: 41
            This article is fiction and anti-Semitism.
            With a detailed examination of the author, everything becomes clear, the author is an ardent anti-Semite.
            Enough to drive into Google "Daria Aslamova Israel." This is a sick "man."
          2. 0
            21 March 2017 22: 17
            Quote: Ascetic
            Somewhere I already heard it. Eretz Yisrael (Land of Israel), the Promised Land from the Nile to Euphrates. The Zionist Reich ...


            Where do you just take this nonsense. Although what I ask is from stupid anti-Semitic articles wassat
            Well, at least they checked before posting another nonsense what
          3. +2
            21 March 2017 22: 48
            Quote: Ascetic
            Somewhere I already heard it.

            Since such a booze has gone, it would be necessary to put music fellow
        4. +4
          21 March 2017 22: 18
          The UN is a pocket pug of your roots from the USA
        5. +9
          21 March 2017 23: 09
          Quote: Rabinovich
          The UN is an Arab interests club supporting terrorism.

          laughing good Rabinovich, plus for you, because you have surpassed the Armenians with their joke about the fact that in the world there are only three nations - Armenians, Russians and non-Russians. In your interpretation, it sounds something like this - In the world there is only one nation-Jews, all the rest are Arabs.
          1. +1
            21 March 2017 23: 15
            Quote: Tersky
            Rabinovich, plus for you,

            Where? wassat
            ps I'm worried about our Rabinovich (his pressure is naughty) what
      2. +1
        21 March 2017 21: 04
        Quote: Tersky
        What about the resolution of the UN Security Council number 497, adopted on December 17, 1981? What about the fulfillment by the sons of Israel?


        Why do it? To let enemies get closer to Israel? lol
      3. 0
        21 March 2017 22: 20
        Quote: Tersky
        yeah, against the Israeli occupation of the Syrian Golan, which did not receive international recognition, not the UN Security Council, nor the UN General Assembly


        Our golan! conquered during the war. sorry Sinai with dope returned. what claims?
        or is it all here for returning all territories that were once conquered by all peoples?
        as small children, honestly.
        1. +1
          21 March 2017 22: 26
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          Our golan! conquered during the war. sorry Sinai with dope returned. what claims?
          or is it all here for returning all territories that were once conquered by all peoples?
          as small children, honestly.

          Come on Maki Avellyevich in the Middle East, all of your land is what you singled out from the pity of the UN when stripping the English protectorate, the rest you occupied.
        2. +2
          21 March 2017 23: 06
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          Our golan!

          And this composition is for you personally (joking). After all, we have the same joker. wink

          Rabinovich, no offense feel
    4. 0
      21 March 2017 20: 41
      No one except Poland!
  10. +3
    21 March 2017 19: 58
    It is simply important for them to visit NEAR the S-300 and S-400 complexes. Of course, they are sure that we will not drive them horizontally. But to write in memoirs that they heard the signals of the detectors that they are under the gun ..... It's like there is a Japanese puffer fish prepared by a farmer-pole. Or play Russian roulette. Grandchildren will listen with their mouth open.
    1. +2
      21 March 2017 21: 05
      Quote: dubowitskij.vick
      It’s simply important for them to visit NEAR the S-300 and S-400 complexes

      By the way, in the course of these exercises, a situation where Israel can deliberately collide the US Air Force and our air forces and air defense systems S-300 and S-400 in order to provoke a conflict and then unleash a full-scale war between the United States and Russia in the region during which how can he believe at the same time not only Russian forces in Syria will be destroyed, but the army of this country as well as Hezbollah and Iran is seriously "battered" ..
      1. +1
        22 March 2017 00: 26
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Quote: dubowitskij.vick
        It’s simply important for them to visit NEAR the S-300 and S-400 complexes

        By the way, in the course of these exercises, a situation where Israel can deliberately collide the US Air Force and our air forces and air defense systems S-300 and S-400 in order to provoke a conflict and then unleash a full-scale war between the United States and Russia in the region during which how can he believe at the same time not only Russian forces in Syria will be destroyed, but the army of this country as well as Hezbollah and Iran is seriously "battered" ..

        Yes you give up. Pygmy pushes the colossus in trouble with Russia. No one will contact us either in Syria or nearby. Moreover, the tourists who arrived will leave, but Israel will remain. The example of Turkey’s trick, which shot down our plane and ran to hide under the wing of a godfather (Turkey is a NATO country, and Israel is not) does not convince that abandoning an ally when the Americans themselves have to be hot is always and with pleasure!
        THEY ARE ALWAYS ON THE SIDE OF THE WINNER.
      2. 0
        22 March 2017 10: 15
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Quote: dubowitskij.vick
        It’s simply important for them to visit NEAR the S-300 and S-400 complexes

        By the way, in the course of these exercises, a situation where Israel can deliberately collide the US Air Force and our air forces and air defense systems S-300 and S-400 in order to provoke a conflict and then unleash a full-scale war between the United States and Russia in the region during which how can he believe at the same time not only Russian forces in Syria will be destroyed, but the army of this country as well as Hezbollah and Iran is seriously "battered" ..


        I won’t be surprised. This is so in the Israeli spirit, provoke ...
  11. +1
    21 March 2017 20: 01
    When the operation "cast lead" over Lebanon was constantly a link of the Syrian Mig. They flew in and out. Their lights were visible in the sky, just "wave your hand." Parking lights. They will whine and "dump". The IDF did not even pay attention to them, they bombed in the south and that’s it!
    1. +1
      21 March 2017 20: 08
      Palestinians and Levantines jumped for joy: they screamed that Syria was covering them from the air, well, Allah is Akbar there, they haven’t shot down a single Israeli plane, they didn’t even try ...
      1. +1
        21 March 2017 20: 13
        When Skyhawk (old junk) flew over the beach in Beirut, the crowd on the beach screamed with joy. Thought it was a Syrian MIG!
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  16. +4
    21 March 2017 20: 30
    And what, also take part!
    And yes, the final chord of the exercises is practical bombing of ISIS positions !!!. Bombs are possible at our expense! laughing
    That will be fun. One trouble, all the same they won’t fall, hands tremble at their own bomb!
    1. +2
      21 March 2017 20: 39
      "The Russians are here ..." Afraid ... Who taught whom in the seventies?
  17. +8
    21 March 2017 20: 34
    The Israeli Air Force Lt. Col. reports that many pilots in the world "will be able to learn from Israeli pilots." According to him, “despite the tiny airspace of Israel,

    It touches me directly ... Well, as our "comrades from Israel" on the site ... laughing Everything fell under the table with laughter, damn teachers were found ... Learning how to shoot rockets behind solitary Arabs on expensive fighters? Well, let's see, I always look at the students there for the main staff! wink
    1. +4
      21 March 2017 20: 38
      Quote: Totsky
      Everything fell under the table with laughter, damn teachers were found ..

      Well, they imagined themselves God's chosen lol
    2. +2
      21 March 2017 20: 54
      Just a moment. But what about Operation Entebbe? Four mirages over Africa. This is just a cover. We went around our radars in Ethiopia.
    3. +2
      21 March 2017 21: 00
      Quote: Totsky
      . Learns how to solo Arabs on expensive fighter jets missiles? Well, let's see, I always look at the students there for the main staff!


      Israeli pilots showed themselves well when meeting with Soviet pilots wink


      Not to mention, of course, that the raid even now by Russian pilots is not particularly.

      For example,
      Murakhtin, Konstantin Valerievich - Russian military pilot, major, the best navigator of Russia (2014), holder of the Order of Courage ("for courage, courage and selflessness shown in the performance of military duty" in Syria). The Murakhtin aircraft with tail number 83 was shot down by the Turkish Air Force F-16 aircraft in the area of ​​the Syrian-Turkish border.

      So, according to the decision in the case 2-453 / 2014 ~ M-467/2014 (regarding Murakhtin) - http://sudact.ru/regular/doc/KZGAY3UuoS5/

      The bottom line is that the case indicates that the Russian military pilot, major, the best navigator of Russia (2014), who was sent to Syria, I quote -
      For 2013, the actual annual raid of K. Murakhtin amounted to about 60 hours, with the established norm of 20 hours.
      From the sheet of flight operations Murakhtin K.V. seen that its raid in 2013 is 59 hours 56 minutes, with the established annual norm of 20 hours.

      That is, it is very sad to send fighting to Syria with such a raid, and if the raid were really large, at least among military pilots, they would not send those who did not do 100 hours a year.
      Of course, the year is not 2016, and the trial indicates a raid for 2013, but I do not think that something has changed dramatically in three years. In addition, of course, a large flying hours in Syria.
      1. +1
        21 March 2017 21: 18
        This is debatable, but the fact that the best pilots were sent to Syria. From all over the country. IDF pilots fly and fly, takeoff and landing, takeoff landing .... If you know where your Merkava is, you know where your Phantom is, in which garage. This is a matter of survival ...
      2. +14
        21 March 2017 21: 31
        Quote: Wiskar
        The Murakhtin aircraft with tail number 83 was shot down by the Turkish Air Force F-16 aircraft in the area of ​​the Syrian-Turkish border.

        Nice person, on the site of Murakhtin K.V. I would fill you face monsieur for his commander Peshkov O.V.Sbitoy on SU-24 with tail number 83. You are unworthy of respect, Mr. Sovramsha. am
      3. +3
        21 March 2017 21: 59
        Quote: Wiskar
        Israeli pilots showed themselves well when meeting with Soviet pilots

        And why don't they show themselves with Russian pilots? The US won, the UN ran to complain! wassat
        1. 0
          21 March 2017 22: 10
          Quote: Totsky
          And why don't they show themselves with Russian pilots? The US won, the UN ran to complain!


          Have to, show, don’t worry .. although no, still worry wassat
      4. +4
        21 March 2017 23: 07
        Quote: Wiskar
        From the sheet of flight operations Murakhtin K.V. it is seen that his raid in 2013 is 59 hours 56 minutes, with the established annual norm of 20 hours.

        That is, it is very sad to send fighting to Syria with such a raid, and if the raid were really large, at least among military pilots, they would not send those who did not do 100 hours a year.

        No need to distort Wiskar in SU-24 TWO crew members and K. Murakhtin was
        there - as a navigator and he did not pilot the plane, so little depended on his raid.
  18. +1
    21 March 2017 20: 59
    Cool training for our fly swatter!
  19. +1
    21 March 2017 21: 01
    Do not underestimate the enemy. I do not know what Israeli pilots are now, but in the 70-80s they could give the Forum to the whole Arab brotherhood, with the exception of the Jordanians. But those and planes did not have normal ...
    1. +5
      21 March 2017 21: 51
      Quote: rruvim
      Do not underestimate the enemy. I do not know what Israeli pilots are now, but in the 70-80s they could give the Forum to the whole Arab brotherhood, with the exception of the Jordanians. But those and planes did not have normal ...

      I agree, but it’s also not worth idealizing them, as some here ... After all, the Syrians shot down one fighter all the same ..! (well then a drone, it's so warm-up and excitement ...))) In vain they anger the Russians ...
      1. 0
        21 March 2017 22: 03
        But anyone can “populate” the 200th. Why not under Nazareth, and not on take-off? Golan interfere? So the rocket has a GOS. Shot and forgot ... Vega after all. And they are on the "sparrows."
    2. +1
      21 March 2017 22: 31
      Quote: rruvim
      Do not underestimate the enemy. I do not know what Israeli pilots are now, but in the 70-80s they could give the Forum to the whole Arab brotherhood, with the exception of the Jordanians.


      How did the Jordanian pilots show themselves? in 1967 they had less by 27 aircraft. on this their participation in the wars against Israel was exhausted.
  20. 0
    21 March 2017 21: 26
    It is necessary to all flights, the time of exercises to be suspended, that will be a bummer.
  21. 0
    21 March 2017 21: 35
    Of course, I judge from the “sofa”, but what they “covered” near Damascus is a fact. 200th pulnuli - funny! Nine missiles less. UAVs shot down ?, but in Damascus there is nowhere to hide from the noise of the propellers ....
  22. 0
    21 March 2017 21: 47
    Of these countries, I would single out the pilots of only Israel, the USA and France ... the rest is nothing ...
    1. 0
      21 March 2017 21: 56
      And I would single out the Israeli. The French flew into the Libyan campaign. Little experience. Well, great Greek pilots. Watched over the islands - fine. But the Turks were reduced, a coup damn ....
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        21 March 2017 22: 02
        The French have a great flight school ...

        Greeks? Not...
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          21 March 2017 22: 05
          What is the main fighter in France? How much?
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            21 March 2017 22: 08
            Google to help you ...
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            21 March 2017 22: 12
            By and large, no one knows. Mirages, Rafali or Eurofighter? In Libya, lit up 4 Mirage-2000 And 2 Raphael. In Chad, 2 Rafale and 6 Mirages 2000. And that’s it!
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        21 March 2017 22: 33
        Quote: rruvim
        Well, great Greek pilots. Watched over the islands - fine.


        Acrobatics is beautiful but without combat experience is not significant.
  23. 0
    21 March 2017 22: 30
    many pilots of the world "will be able to learn from Israeli pilots"

    Well, given the fact that they can only bomb out neighbors with a weak air defense system ...
    I am anxious to remember when they last entered into an air battle with ... yes, just an air battle.
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      21 March 2017 22: 42
      Quote: Berkut24
      I am anxious to remember when they last entered into an air battle with ... yes, just an air battle.


      hold, kolega. in 1982, Israeli pilots shot down 88 aircraft. Syrian I hope that the pilots were purely Syrian.

      who has more recent experience of such a scale?
      Quote: Berkut24
      I'm trying to remember
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        22 March 2017 00: 02
        Quote: Maki Avellevich

        hold, kolega. in 1982, Israeli pilots shot down 88 aircraft. Syrian I hope that the pilots were purely Syrian.
        who has more recent experience of such a scale?

        The generation of those pilots is already retired.
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          22 March 2017 07: 47
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          The generation of those pilots is already retired.


          Yes, but their experience was transferred directly to active pilots. better than nothing.
      2. +3
        22 March 2017 11: 21
        Israeli pilots shot down 88 aircraft. Syrian I hope that the pilots were purely Syrian.

        We at the military school studied this issue. like a war story. tsyferki do not meet.
        According to sources, we have the following:
        Altogether, 67 aircraft were lost by Syria. Of these, 47 in air battles, 20 from the fire of air defense systems. A little more than a quarter of the losses were turntables, which do not require special skill to bring down. There is also indirect evidence that out of the specified number, 4 units crashed due to technical reasons, and some of the planes were mixed up in the confusion by their own air defense. collectively, not a little, but if Israel had not suffered any losses. And he carried it.
        The total loss of Israel in aerial combat amounted to 24 aircraft. Given the fact that the lion's share of Syrian aircraft was technically older, I would not call the victory of Israeli pilots any outstanding in order to teach pilots from countries much more advanced in aviation terms than Syria.
  24. +1
    21 March 2017 22: 55
    Blue??? flag - whose teachings are these?
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      21 March 2017 23: 37
      “You thought correctly.” laughing
  25. +1
    21 March 2017 23: 03
    About two years ago, I was driving from Elat along Arave.-On the left side of the road, I saw fascinating action at low altitudes. A pair of F16 played the game "You run away I catch up." He stopped the car on the side of the road for 10 minutes, was bewitched, it was the middle of October ,,, wink
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  26. +2
    22 March 2017 03: 13
    There are still expected observers from 40 countries. Always, without advertizing, Jordan participates, providing its airspace in the south, there is enough space. In the meantime, the already familiar “teachings” from unconfirmed Arab sources from Syria: 2 hours ago # دمشق ناشطون: مقاتلاتاسرائيلية تقصف مواقع لـ قوات_النظام في جبل # قاسيون هههه ама gu gu gu gu gu gu gu gu gu gu gu
  27. +2
    22 March 2017 08: 17
    Quote: matak4b
    A padded jacket is Russian by nationality, a Shiite Islamist in spirit, an Iranian state employee on salary.


    The main thing is not piderast and will not pinpoint, like some ...
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      22 March 2017 08: 19
      Quote: cedar
      and doesn’t sniff out like some ...

      I remembered your answer to my question, what city are you from wassat
  28. +1
    22 March 2017 09: 07
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: cedar
    and doesn’t sniff out like some ...

    RememberedYour answer to my question: What city are you from? wassat


    This is a good sign. So you have a memory. Congratulations...
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    22 March 2017 13: 09
    Well, he will remain a gage forever. We need to look at least out of the corner of our eyes at this aggressive western ...
  30. +3
    22 March 2017 15: 24
    I do not like hats. It does not lead to anything good. But the teachings, and with such a serious representation - an interesting thing. All those present (participants and guests-observers) will benefit. Many will want to clap the F-35 with a pen on its steep side, and the “old” F-16 in the Israeli version - “Sufa” (with a full set of Israeli weapons and local-made avionics) was not seen very close. So, and to friends and spiteful critics - welcome!
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      23 March 2017 16: 58
      So the “Sufa” took part in the raid on the Hezbollah convoy. But "washed off" through Jordan. The problem, as always, is one: while they agreed on orders for "defeat," they were already in the sky over Jordan and Israel. Therefore, the 200th crashed in those parts. And they came from Lebanon.
  31. 0
    22 March 2017 16: 55
    And if the pilots from Iran apply, will they accept it ???
    1. +1
      22 March 2017 17: 11
      And to whom they can serve, if there is no Israel for the mullahs, for a simple polite. a handshake, "excommunication", and for contact, "spies, traitors and accomplices of the Zionists" - death ...

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