The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation intends to update the data on the dead in the Great Patriotic

The Russian Defense Ministry has placed tenders for processing more than 56 millions of documents about the losses, injuries and awards of the participants of the Great Patriotic War, the report said on the official website of the State Procurement. This is reported today Interfax-AVN
It is planned to spend up to 932,38 million rubles for document processing and optimization of online databases "Memory of the People" and "Memorial".
As follows from the documents, it is planned to process 17,75 million documents clarifying the losses and 32,8 million documents about injuries and deaths from wounds in hospitals and medical battalions. It is also planned to process 20 thousand documents about Soviet prisoners of war and military personnel buried abroad, kept in foreign archives. The processing of documents must be completed before 24 November 2017, specified in the tender.

In addition, the ministry has placed a tender for 328 million rubles to digitize documents for the database on awarding the participants of the Great Patriotic War "People's feat". Under the terms of the tender, it is planned to digitize more than 6 million award documents.
The Internet portal "Memory of the People" combines the online database "Memorial" and "feat of the people". In the "Memorial" collected data on the Soviet soldiers who died during the Second World War. At the moment, the database contains more than 30 million records (for one victim, there may be several records from different types of documents). The "People's Feat" database contains data on the awards of the participants of the Great Patriotic War; in total, several tens of millions of documents were digitized for it.

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[MPK105]

It has become terrible already, how they will update ... And how much ??????? when the HONEST ANSWER TO THIS will be already ....

[Zibelew]

The fact is that the USSR lost the most people, while the Allies were waiting for whom to speak. Our grandfathers broke the ridge of the Wehrmacht and the whole of Europe in its composition.
Moreover, after the 90s, the country lost, more than 100 million people, a third of the territory, industry, which they are now trying to restore. I wonder what kind of bastards so battered the country .....

[bouncyhunter]

I will not be verbose - the feat of the fallen is immortal! Their names should not disappear into the abyss of history!

[cost]

Up to 932,38 million rubles are planned to be spent on processing documents and optimizing online databases.

This thing is not a pity

[your1970]

Too much documents and too little time is what bothers me

[antivirus]

In the late 80s, this topic was promoted. to change the regime and quietly forgot later about those lying in the swamps and steppes.
Search engines and archives should work up to the MAX exact result, regardless of the issue price

[kos2910]

And how much ??????? when an HONEST ANSWER TO THIS will already be ....

Only military losses are documented, and even partially, something was lost during the retreat. Civilian casualties are estimates. So there will never be exact numbers. Yes, it doesn’t matter, the IMMORTAL Regiment and the memory of the living are important.

[svp67]

The Russian Ministry of Defense has placed tenders for the processing of more than 56 million documents about the losses, injuries and awards of the participants of the Great Patriotic War, the state procurement official website said.

It is planned to spend up to 932,38 million rubles for document processing and optimization of online databases "Memory of the People" and "Memorial".

The amount is large and apparently would not hurt her account chamber to check, but MEMORY of those who did not return and those who did everything for OUR VICTORY, personal and general - THANKS FOR THIS. I know people who FOUND their relatives on the MO site and their feelings can’t be conveyed, and now these will be added ...

[MPK105]

Yes, I'm not talking about money, but about how MUCH SAME OUR PEOPLE died in this terrified war, so that everyone FORGETS WHO ARE OBLIGATED to their life ... And, by the way, it’s not only “Europe” there are all kinds of “America” "with" asia "concerns ???

[svp67]

Quote: MPK105

Yes, I'm not talking about money

Sorry, but I’m a sinner standing on the ground, it would not hurt to have the full clarity of the picture ... And then there are a lot of “leeches”

Quote: MPK105

HOW MUCH OUR PEOPLE died in this terrified war, so that everyone would not forget who they owe their life to ...

Many, very many. But their number is somewhere in the range of 9. And who will tell about the dead SIMPLE CITIZENS?

[MPK105]

Well, yes, MO is only about the military ... But it is always important for me to remember ALL people, ALL republics, ALL nationalities ... That's it, who will tell when they will calculate ......... And if they will calculate. ... But THEY ARE NOT LESS THAN Victory Worthy than those who died at the front in battle ...

[Lelek]

Quote: MPK105

. And, by the way, it’s not only “Europe” that’s all there, and “America” with “Asia” concerns ???

Hey.
I don’t know if Europe will touch the rest of the world, but I came across a note about the possessed Adolf from the KGB documents. I will not retell:

[your1970]

Nonsense Rentvshny about Hitler, that some people were taken to Argentina is already known. Jet planes of the 50s were a penny a penny just because everyone, including Argentina, used the same sources of information - Hitler engineers ...

[Lelek]

Quote: your1970

your1970

This is not from "RenTV", This is from Ivashov Leonid Grigoryevich from the KGB documents that he saved.

[your1970]

So the KGB was wrong or Ivashov reads them somehow in his own way
Hitler refused to evacuate from Berlin to the last, an escape for him is a complete contradiction to the whole logic of his life ... And he couldn’t sit underground - the wrong person was

[Lelek]

Quote: your1970

your1970

Yozhkin’s cat, Ivashov, however, talks about what is in the recently opened KGB documents, and whether they are right or wrong is the second question on the left. Personally, my opinion - Hitler and Eve - is a “kergud”, but the question of the “flight” of the Fuhrer is actively circulated in Nazi circles of the West, the former Ukraine and the Baltic states. And this is not harmless.

[Uncle lee]

Maybe I'll find my uncle ...

[BLOND]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Maybe I'll find my uncle ...

God grant!
I just found about my grandfather that only the formed military unit fell under the air raid and it disappeared ...

[To be or not to be]

Holy work !!
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/

[voyaka uh]

"data on Soviet soldiers killed during the Second World War.
At the moment, the database contains more than 30 million records (per one dead
there may be several records from different types of documents "///

30 million? Until recently, they tried to reduce to 9 ...

[Mountain shooter]

He himself answered - there can be several records for one deceased ...
No one specifically tried to cut anything. But to record in the loss of UNBORN CHILDREN AND NATURALLY DIED FROM AGING ... This was not very correct.

[Tusv]

Quote: voyaka uh

30 million? Until recently, they tried to reduce to 9 ..

And you do not run up and will not cut

[Tanya]

Quote: voyaka uh

"data on Soviet soldiers killed during the Second World War.
At the moment, the database contains more than 30 million records (per one dead
there may be several records from different types of documents "///
30 million? Until recently, they tried to reduce to 9 ...

No wonder. Only for my grandfather 6 documents, as for the deceased:
3 certificates from the hospital, 2 certificates of burial and one report of losses from the duty station.

[svp67]

Quote: voyaka uh

At the moment, the database contains more than 30 million records (per one dead
there may be several records from different types of documents "///

I will say more, some have several funerals.

[igor67]

Quote: svp67

Quote: voyaka uh

At the moment, the database contains more than 30 million records (per one dead
there may be several records from different types of documents "///

I will say more, some have several funerals.

Perhaps we have a grandfather’s funeral, and the notice, in both different middle names of Gedalievich in the second Gdalievich, the father had to go to Kiev at one time and make sure that this is the same person, only different people wrote, just went to the website and there in the document that he disappeared without a trace and the surname is redrawn and middle name, but the data of birth and call are correct. Also, our just award documents for the second grandfather and grandmother, only the order is strange for her, and there is no more data, but she herself is not in the file of veterans, I found by the order

[K-50]

Quote: voyaka uh

Until recently, they tried to reduce to 9 ...

9 are military personnel, the rest are non-combatants.
According to the military, we did not lose much to the Wehrmacht, of which the majority died in captivity from the conditions of detention and not providing medical assistance.
At the same time, German prisoners of war even gave eggs, while their population did not see. Those who had chickens were obliged to surrender.
Compare food and medical care is not comparable.

[voyaka uh]

"9 are military personnel, the rest are non-combatants" ////

I just quoted an article: "data on the Soviet military personnel who died ..."
About "non-combatants" the article does not say.
Let's see how much will turn out after processing the documents.

[svp67]

Quote: K-50

According to the military, we did not lose much to the Wehrmacht, of which the majority died in captivity from the conditions of detention and not providing medical assistance.

Sorry, but there is one bureaucratic trick. Fighting is considered to be those who died or died on the battlefield, not reported to the regimental company. All the rest are already related to SANITARY losses.
And at the expense of prisoners, generally different statistics ...

[Roma 1977]

Here one grandfather had eight funerals for himself, and until the 2000s he lived in his right mind and sober memory ..

[Tusv]

This should be a reminder to the West of the evil that is not necessary with its charter in our garden.

[tatra]

The enemies of the Communists, in their manic anti-Soviet rule, have reached such a monstrous meanness that ALL Soviet citizens killed by the Nazis and their accomplices from among the citizens of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War were shoved into "Stalin's victims."
Recently, 41 million people who died in the Great Patriotic War were also picked up and made a rage against Stalin on this occasion.
But Hitler, the Nazis, their accomplices from among the citizens of the USSR “are not guilty of the enemies of the Communists”.

[Observer2014]

Found grandfather! Just now. And I even read the order about the award. Original. The tanks broke through the German, commanded the calculation of 152 mm howitzers. They repelled the breakthrough. One tank was shot at point blank range. The second was burned. what battles he participated in. The site "Feat of the People" Gavnoye is precisely registered with the part number. And with this number for other resources, the entire battle route to Germany is even superimposed on the map. With iconic battles and events for grandfather.

[Tanya]

Quote: Observer2014

Found grandfather! Just now. And I even read the order about the award. Original. The tanks broke through the German, commanded the calculation of 152 mm howitzers. They repelled the breakthrough. One tank was shot at point blank range. The second was burned. what battles he participated in. Site "Feat of the people"

Gunner! Like mine. And where did he serve, if not secret? Maybe fellow soldiers?

[Observer2014]

Tanya

Gunner! Like mine. And where did he serve, if not secret? Maybe fellow soldiers?

In the 17th artillery division of the reserve breakthrough V.G.K

[Tanya]

Quote: Observer2014

Tanya

Gunner! Like mine. And where did he serve, if not secret? Maybe fellow soldiers?

In the 17th artillery division of the reserve breakthrough V.G.K

It’s a pity, but we have different divisions. Mine - 9 Guards, 1 Guards. SD, 11th Guards SD and 31 Guards. sd If only armies or front are common ...

[Observer2014]

Everything can be. Today I studied in detail the military way of my grandfather. There, from Tula region and to Germany via Kursk, Kiev, a bit of Belarus. All of Poland. The road was, I will say is not easy. My grandfather was alive when he spoke. everything and with orders. And rewards. And everything is laid out on the map. Even the village knows what it is called where the battle was for their height. By the way, the village is hello. Even the numbers and names of the Nazi units defeated.

[Tanya]

Quote: Observer2014

.And here on the resources everything is with orders. And award-defeated.

On the "Memory of the people" there is a section "documents of the parts." I am on the battle logs, combat orders, reports, reports, maps and so on. after the grandfather, the whole war "passed." From Moscow to Konigsberg. Now I know where he was almost every day.
Here is a link to the documents of your 17 adp RGK:
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/

[Observer2014]

Tanya I watched this site. Thing! For May and other relatives I will seek and study.

[Igor V]

Maybe something about my grandfather, Vasily Andreyevich, will appear. And then there is only one document - a certificate from the military registration and enlistment office stating that in July the 42nd went missing.

[1536]

But in normal mode, this work can not be done? Do you need a tender for almost a billion? Fast is never good!

[Nitarius]

Memorial .. and you can’t get close to the data!

[Igor V]

This is the HBS Memorial. A completely different thing.

[Landing Station6]

Memorial helped me find the grave of my uncle, who died in 1944 in Belarus. But the information on the awards is incomplete, I hope to learn new things by the fall. Thank you for continuing this work.

[Farid05]

Here's another reason to cut, but pensioners hold on! There is no money for you, there are more viable affairs ahead! After more than 70 years, we still have to reckon ... Shame and disgrace to the leadership for such actions.

[Victor Kiyashchenko]

The war is not over until the last soldier is buried.

[Old26]

The business is necessary. A huge number of documents must be processed. And this is only in the line of MO.

Quote: Observer2014

Found grandfather! Just now. And even the order I read about the reward. Original.

Last year I found the text of awarding my father with the Order of the Red Star. I pick up the phone and read him the text, of course removing his name and place of action. I thought for a long time, then said that the name of the signatory was familiar, but I don’t remember what it was specifically. I was surprised that this is his award document.