How to defend against a “Fast global strike”

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How to defend against a “Fast global strike”


The United States is preparing several ways to eliminate power regimes that are undesirable for them, which increases the likelihood of solving this problem in one way or another. First, “soft power” and “hybrid war”, which is now being waged against Russia, are used. "Hybrid war" includes a complex of various measures (information war, sanctions, armed conflicts with neighbors, color revolutions, etc.), but if they do not give the desired result, then the country is subjected to a "Fast global strike" (BSU) .



At present, on the instructions of the US Congress, the Department of Defense and intelligence agencies must answer the question of whether modern armed forces are capable of inflicting a nuclear-missile BSU in Russia and China in order to deprive them of their state sovereignty. If the Armed Forces are not capable of doing this at the present time, then what else should be done to solve this task and at the same time not receive a retaliatory strike by the Russian strategic nuclear forces? Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov believes that at present Russia is not able to defend itself from BSU: “We somehow pay little attention to the fact that the structure of NATO already has almost everything needed for a quick strike ... If we are open to ballistic missiles if we do not have the means to intercept and even detect cruise missiles, we must radically change our military-strategic approaches. ”

Consider which systems weapons are available from the United States for applying BSU in Russia and is it possible to defend against it.

DIFFERENT SCENARIOS

For more than a decade, the United States has been preparing a weapon system against Russia, consisting of anti-missile defense (ABM) and "Fast Global Strike". A fully built missile defense system should cover almost the entire globe and protect US territory from any aerospace attack (missiles of any type, aircraft, drones and so on.). At the BSU, a massive simultaneous strike by several thousand missiles on the strategic nuclear forces (SNF) and control centers of the state and its armed forces is inflicted on the victim country. Those missiles with nuclear warheads that will not be hit by the BGU must be shot down by the missile defense system. The application of BSU on strategic nuclear forces makes sense if it is applied, for example, by cruise missiles that are poorly visible to the radar stations of the victim country, or the flight time of the missiles is no more than 10-12 minutes, during which it is almost impossible to organize and carry out a retaliatory retaliatory strike on the cities of the United States .

For the “Fast Global Strike” in the USA, sea-based cruise missiles (SLCMs) created using stealth technology are suitable. The US Armed Forces are armed with more than 3000 SLCMs, which are launched from submarines and ships with conventional or nuclear combat units. As for the use of SLCMs for the “Fast Global Strike” to destroy the Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces, domestic experts consider it unlikely to use these cruise subsonic missiles with conventional warheads for these purposes.

In addition to sea-based cruise missiles, the United States can use for BSU intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) launched from submarines (Submarines) located off Russia's northern coast. The Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces (mine and mobile ground-based missile systems, etc.) will reach the American ICBM in 10 – 15 minutes.

Currently, the US is armed with 18 submarines of the Ohio type, of which 14 are capable of carrying 24 intercontinental range missiles (SLBMs) ​​of the Trident 2 (four more submarines of the Ohio type are armed with sea-based cruise missiles). Each Trident 2 missile of the D5 modification has 14 nuclear warheads with an 100 CT power. Thus, only one Ohio-type submarine carries nuclear charges on board the 336. The circular deviation of the Trident 2 of the D-5 version is equal to 120 m. In the soil of average strength, a 100 m radius of a nuclear charge with a 90 core explosion forms a funnel with a radius of about 150 m and 4 m in a saturated ground. It is planned to use two nuclear charges. The radius of destruction of mobile ground-based missile systems is about 100 km with the explosion of an XNUMX-kiloton nuclear charge on the ground surface.

The total number of intercontinental ballistic missiles in the United States is about 800, and in Russia it is about 500, of which “ground” launchers (airplanes and submarines at sites and bases, mine and mobile ground complexes) are no more than 400. For the decommissioning of the Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces, it is sufficient to use three Ohio-type submarines armed with 1000 nuclear charges, which can hit up to 90% of the Russian strategic nuclear forces in submarines stationed at piers, mines and mobile ground complexes. Russia currently has no missile defense necessary to protect ICBM installations. The United States is currently unable to guaranteedly destroy 100% of Russian ICBMs at BSU. For this, it is necessary to have an completed and effective missile defense system, and on Day X you must reliably destroy the Russian submarines on alert in the ocean.

The United States to search for Soviet (Russian) submarines with SLBMs on alert in the world's oceans, for many decades, has created a system that includes special ships, airplanes and acoustic buoys, information-integrated by the GPS space system. What is the reliability of this anti-submarine system? Can this system reliably detect and destroy Russian submarines on combat duty in coordination with the BSU on land targets on Day X? Russian specialist Konstantin Sivkov assesses this problem: “Russia does not have effective anti-submarine monitoring systems for the underwater situation, especially in the far-sea zone, and the United States has the ability to monitor Russian submarines in most of the seas and oceans.”

PEEKABOO



When using the Trident 2 missiles of the D-5 modification for targets in Russia, radiation contamination of a large area of ​​Russian territory is inevitable. The total power of the nuclear charges released by three Ohio-type submarines is 100 Mt, which is comparable to the power of a nuclear charge with a power of 58 Mt exploded in the USSR over Novaya Zemlya. Only after about 30 years, human activity on Novaya Zemlya again became possible, that is, the Russian territory subjected to radiation will be excluded from use for several decades. These considerations will not stop the United States from a nuclear strike on Russia for the sake of winning world domination.

To protect Russian ICBMs, it is necessary to use the basic defect of all high-precision missiles of any type (cruise, ballistic, space, hypersonic, etc.), which consists in the fact that in order to hit the target you need to know the coordinates of the target (static or dynamic). Therefore, ICBMs must be hidden from enemy reconnaissance (satellites, aircraft, drones, saboteurs, etc.). To do this, it is possible to use submarines with SLBMs more widely, as the West does, but the American anti-submarine system operates in the oceans, therefore it is more reliable to place Russian submarines in offshore areas in the North and East, which are reliably protected from the means of destruction by the North and the Pacific fleets. Part of the ICBMs may be located in underground tunnels, as China does. The location of ICBMs disguised as freight vans in railway trains, as well as in road transport, is not reliable due to the likely access to vehicles of terrorists, saboteurs, etc., as well as the high probability of traffic accidents.

WHAT OPPOSITE HEGEMON

In order to establish the position of the hegemon on Earth, the United States must first of all conquer Russia. Because it is the only country in the world that is capable of pre-empting its 500 ICBMs with 1500 nuclear charges to destroy the United States. However, this will be a guaranteed suicide, since Russia will not be able to destroy the Trident 2 submarines with the D-5 modifications on combat duty in the world's oceans (at least three or four US submarines plus submarine strategic rocket carriers of Britain and France), board which is more than 150 SLBMs. It is difficult to destroy the 3 Minuteman missiles, located in more than 400 underground mines protected by missile defense system.

The question arises: how to protect Russia from such an aggressor, like the United States, which spends 10 more money on preparing for a war than Russia. US production on 60% corresponds to the fifth technological order and on 6% to the sixth technological order. In Russia, production corresponds mainly to the fourth technological order, except for a number of defense enterprises and the aerospace complex.

The main weak link in Russia is the use of the liberal-monetarist model of the economy, which has stuck the modernization of the country, the implementation of new industrialization. This model was introduced to Russia by the United States in 90-s with the goal of turning the country into a raw materials appendage of the West. With the help of this model, de-industrialization was carried out in Russia, and it was planted on an “oil needle”. The existing financial and monetary system of Russia is under the control of the world (American) financial system, which excludes the economic development of Russia and the strengthening of defense. The leaders of the economic bloc of the government manage and manage the economy with the help of the recommendations of the IMF. In fact, they help Russia's strategic adversaries, together with sanctions, to weaken the defense and slow down the development of the country.

A new HPV-2025 program is currently being discussed, for which the Ministry of Defense requested 24 trillion rubles, but the Ministry of Finance agreed to allocate only 12 trillion rubles, because, according to the Ministry of Finance, there is no money in the country. The threat of disrupting the army rearmament program is imminent. But in our country there is a real opportunity to increase the budget in 2 – 3 times, which will allow not only to allocate the necessary funds to the Ministry of Defense, but also significantly increase the costs of other sectors of the economy. For this, it is necessary to replace the existing model of economic management with a planned-market model of economic management, which ensures annual economic development up to 10%.

"Achilles Pyat" of America

The United States has an “Achilles heel” —the geophysical vulnerability of their territory. This issue was considered when the USSR was alive. For example, Academician Sakharov proposed to mine the western and eastern coasts of the United States with unrecoverable nuclear mines. With the US attack on the USSR, a signal is given for an explosion of mines and waves are forming hundreds of meters high, which sweep away cities on the west and east coast. Such nuclear mining already occurred when the United States mined nuclear mines between the countries of the Warsaw Pact and NATO.

It should also be recalled that in the United States in Yellowstone Park is one of the largest volcanoes on the planet (the crater of the volcano is about 60 km). Now the volcano has begun to come to life. According to experts, if a crater blows up a nuclear charge of sufficient power that can be delivered by an ICBM, the crater can explode. According to many experts, this will lead to disastrous consequences for the United States.

Both of these possibilities (mining the coast and hitting the volcano) were not used by the Soviet Union, because, first, the United States did not have weapons systems such as missile defense or BSU. Secondly, the security of the USSR was sufficiently ensured by the existing then SNF. Now the position of Russia is much worse. In the present situation, when Russia's geopolitical opponents have a huge military, technological, economic and demographic advantage, they are able to create weapons that can destroy the Russian strategic nuclear forces without the risk of receiving a nuclear missile response. As a result, Russia will lose state sovereignty.

To prevent this from happening, it is necessary, as Colonel-General Ivashov believes, to change Russia's national military strategy. And above all, we need to exploit the geophysical vulnerability of the United States.

First, to mine the oceans off the coast of the United States with several dozen nuclear mines. Such a prospect should deter the United States from any type of attack on Russia (nuclear missile, space, biological, etc.).

Secondly, in service it is necessary to have several heavy rockets with high-power nuclear charges capable of “driving” the Yellowstone volcano. The power of these nuclear charges with the desired accuracy is difficult to calculate, but it is obvious that the more powerful the charge, the higher the probability of a volcanic eruption. But it can be a charge in one megaton or 20 – 50 Mt. In the event of a United States attack on Russia, these missiles strike the crater of the Yellowstone volcano, which will cause unacceptable damage to the United States. Such heavy missiles are in service with the Russian army. This is the “Voevoda” and, moreover, the Sarmat rocket is being designed. These missiles must meet two conditions: to be able to overcome the missile defense system and to be reliably protected from the "Rapid global strike."

It is realistic to assume that the United States will be able to create effective missile and anti-submarine defense in the foreseeable future, which will allow them to eliminate 100% of Russian ICBMs at BSU. In this case, Russia will face a catastrophic situation after BSU: it will have zero ICBMs, and the US will have about 700 ICBMs, and they will present Russia with an ultimatum: completely surrender. If Russia is against this, the United States will begin methodically with impunity to destroy various Russian targets, including cities like Hiroshima. At the same time, an army armed with new weapons (T-50 fighters, tanks “Armata” and others) will not be able to defend Russia. One of the possible ways to protect against BSU in this case is to use several Voevoda rockets armed with 20-megaton nuclear charges with which they were armed in the USSR. In Russia there is the only Moscow region, which is protected by missile defense, under the protection of which these missiles can probably be deployed. In a few years, Sarmat missiles will be prepared; they also need protection from BSU.

Thirdly, in the North and East, it is advisable to create sea areas protected by the Northern and Pacific fleets for submarine missile carriers, which cannot be struck at BSU, which is unacceptable for the United States.

Mining the US coast, building heavy rockets and protecting them from BSU requires time and money. Currently, the fastest and cheapest way to protect several dozen SLBMs is to use the White Sea as a protected water area, ranging from 100 to 250 km, without bays, and 70 – 300 m depth (with visibility to 50 m), where from BSU hiding 2 – 3 bomber. For this, it is necessary to block the strait with a width of about 50 km, leading from the Barents Sea to the White Sea, from the ships and submarines of the enemy, and protect the airspace above the White Sea from various aircraft.

Protecting the Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces against a sudden nuclear attack should be the number one priority in the program of re-equipment of the domestic Armed Forces, otherwise Russia could lose its state sovereignty. It should be borne in mind that the United States is preparing not for a land, but for a nuclear missile war with Russia, which, in turn, is preparing for both land and nuclear wars. At the same time, Russia does not sufficiently take into account the danger of destroying the forces and means of domestic nuclear missile forces — rockets in mine and mobile ground launchers, etc. — in the “Fast Global Impact”, after which conventional armaments will prove useless to protect Russia.
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  1. +4
    19 March 2017 06: 33
    Russia currently lacks the missile defense necessary to protect ICBM installations.


    And whose opinion is this? The author? Professionals with full evidence? In this article, the "24" frame slips through ...
    1. +7
      19 March 2017 07: 41
      I’m thinking that Ivashov is being kept specially for the cries of Vseprplpalo. The BSU concept implies strikes by non-nuclear SLCMs. How can such missiles "quickly disarm" the strategic nuclear forces group in the Urals ??? The flight time of such missiles to Siberia is the HOUR of flight, from the launch areas. Explain to me about what BSU can be discussed at all, betting on the SLCM strike? The SNF screwdriver will arrive before these missiles reach the goal! For me, this is another SOI.
      1. +8
        19 March 2017 11: 49
        Heh
        The nerd-haters ridicule the "all-scouts".

        OK. The same “advisers” buzzed in Stalin’s ears in the 41st that our scouts were entirely alarmists, laymen and bought into the machinations of the enemies of the great friendship of Germany and the USSR - because the pact was signed!
        1. 0
          19 March 2017 13: 58
          Quote: iConst
          OK. The same “advisers” buzzed in Stalin’s ears in the 41st that our scouts were entirely alarmists, laymen and bought into the machinations of the enemies of the great friendship of Germany and the USSR - because the pact was signed!

          You ... this ... maybe, before you write something, you will study history? Well, at least a little? :) Well, at least within the school curriculum? laughing
          1. +4
            19 March 2017 14: 30
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            You ... this ... maybe, before you write something, you will study history?

            Andrei, but this is a historically proven fact that Stalin until recently did not believe in a possible German attack. And the facts of intelligence reports about the impending attack were also proved.
            So what exactly do you propose to EXPLORE? request
            1. +2
              19 March 2017 23: 08
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Andrei, but this is a historically proven fact that Stalin until recently did not believe in a possible German attack.

              (heavy sigh) He did not believe not in the German attack. Vissarionitch even very much believed in the German attack. But he did not believe that the attack would take place in 1941 (he believed that it would be 1942).
              Stalin went to the pact as a measure capable of giving the USSR several years to prepare for war. And only because England and France categorically refused to create something like the Entente.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And the facts of intelligence reports about the impending attack were also proved.

              Excuse me, but have you read these "facts"? Do you know what kind of balcony our intelligence bore?
              In a nutshell. First, intelligence extremely overestimated the number of German troops. At the beginning of 1941 it was defined as approximately 250 divisions (!!) with 10-12 thousand tanks (!!!)
              Then our intelligence safely slap the concentration of German divisions on the Soviet-German border. But then, when they nevertheless concentrated there, I was able to determine their number more or less reliably (they indicated a little more than a hundred divisions, I don’t remember exactly yet). And then they began to bombard Stalin with news - that the Germans were preparing to attack, no, the Germans were not preparing to attack, no, the Germans were about to attack, no, the Germans were preparing to withdraw troops from the border, etc. etc.
              Those. various sources almost at the same time gave directly opposite data.
              And what opinion should have been formed by Vissarionych? So you yourself think whether the enemy will attack, concentrating to attack LESS HALF of his army? With the almost complete absence of other enemies on the continent?
              1. +1
                20 March 2017 06: 22
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                But he did not believe that the attack would take place in 1941 (he believed that it would be 1942).

                I read Starikov. wink The version is viable, but questions arise. If he did not rule out the German attack, then why were the troops not ready for war AT ALL?
      2. +2
        19 March 2017 20: 48
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        the departure time of such missiles to Siberia is the HOURS of flight


        I agree - in principle, both in the article and in other sources they also wrote that these thousands of US KR will not be able to hit the Russian mines - the clock will fly - and with a mass launch they will be detected and provoke a retaliatory strike

        It was also written - that the reaction time of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation is now reduced to several minutes - in the Soviet Union it was either half an hour, or 15 or 20 minutes

        The only weapon capable of destroying mines before the ICBM takes off is the US SLBM — but even they won’t have time to hit — Russian ICBMs have time to take off — and the US missile defense is still in its infancy

        years through 10 ?? The missile defense system will develop - but the Russian Federation already has plans for an asymmetric response - the destruction of cross-border missile defense facilities by Iskanders in the first minutes of the conflict - the defeat of missile defense in the USA by 2 or 3 by atomarines on duty until the main strike - hypersonic blocks on ICBMs, etc. -

        You can only manage to hit the atomarians who are not on duty (this is of course a lot - as they say 70% of the time of the SSBNs are not on duty) - therefore there is an opinion that the Russian Federation is more profitable to reduce the sea component of the strategic nuclear forces in favor of the ground

        Mobile systems (especially the BZHRK) are generally an excellent response to the threat of BSU - and the threats of terrorists and saboteurs are greatly exaggerated - well, they will get a maximum of two - I do not believe that the Americans will be able to track and send hundreds of groups of saboteurs and that they can do it

        Strategic bombers with the Kyrgyz Republic are also a difficult target - after all, most will have time to fly in 15-20 minutes - where to find them later? Or even based on different airfields and change them

        Also, the Kyrgyz Republic on the river MRK Buyan is also an option to keep Japan and Turkey at gunpoint - and where at the moment these buoys is not an easy question for the enemy
        1. +4
          19 March 2017 20: 51
          and here is a very correct thought from the article:

          "... The main weak link in Russia is the use of the liberal-monetarist model of the economy, which stuck modernization of the country, the implementation of new industrialization. This model was introduced to Russia by the United States in the 90 years with the goal of turning the country into a raw materials appendage of the West. With With the help of this model, de-industrialization was carried out in Russia, and it was put on an “oil needle.” The existing financial and monetary system of Russia is under the control of the world (American) financial system, which excludes economic Developing Russia and Strengthening Defense: The leaders of the economic bloc of government have managed and are managing the economy with the help of IMF recommendations.
    2. +6
      19 March 2017 07: 47
      Quote: aszzz888
      And whose opinion is this? The author? Professionals with full evidence?


      You are not right!

      This article is a reminder to our leaders that we will not throw hats - there are no hats!
      1. +8
        19 March 2017 07: 58
        Caps that is ... But besides caps, you also need economics, finances and reserves .. AND ANOTHER socio-political system ..
        Quote: Titsen
        Quote: aszzz888
        And whose opinion is this? The author? Professionals with full evidence?

        You are not right!
        This article is a reminder to our leaders that we will not throw hats - there are no hats!
      2. jjj
        +2
        19 March 2017 11: 24
        Quote: Titsen
        This article is a reminder to our leaders that we will not throw hats - there are no hats!

        Do you seriously think that state planning is carried out on the basis of such publications?
    3. +1
      19 March 2017 08: 16
      Quote: aszzz888
      skips "24" frame ...

      Maybe 25-th frame? winked
    4. 0
      19 March 2017 22: 20
      Quote: aszzz888
      And whose opinion is this? The author? Professionals with full evidence

      SW colleague, as confirmed, the material of this libel - HBO!;)))
      Nyulebrasty and human-krakly do not know:
      In the Russian Federation today there are about 800 carriers of strategic nuclear forces, 100 of which are not deployed. BB SNF in Russia - 1400 with something.
      - And now it’s not the time when US military intelligence could somehow control up to 90% PGRK (mainly on the RPM and limited areas of the “red flags”).
      - 3,14 the last one has no missile defense, from the word - completely.

      What is true is true - 10 with a momentary blow of 3,14 and the endos dream of covering Yangantau, Kosviy Kamen and command rocket repeaters on the ground. Only the gut is thin and the uterus bench press ...

      Mb With this material, the Yankees, through their agents - the journalist of the "free press" - are trying to figure out the algorithms of the MR? ;)))

      * PySy: lousiness is to try to oppose the liberals of the 5 column, the trolls of the foreign country, and the mistaken Kracles. I once called them the exact name of a famous bird. Only the owners of VO did not like it. Therefore, he stopped commenting on anything. And in general, to come here, so on occasion, it turned out. T.ch. "amuse your enemies, your week ..." (c) :)))
  2. +1
    19 March 2017 07: 09
    And who said that America was not overlaid with nuclear mines around the perimeter. For a long time already came across since not to do this would be utter and diotism. I think there are already a dozen statuses, as well, otherwise it would be foolish to highlight it in SMRAD. Yes, and a yellow stone has something to set fire to. What the hell missile defense will stop the Governor with Satan.
    But the author is right - you can’t relax - you need to build several tens of thousands of diverse, beautiful and amazing missiles. As well as a swarm of autonomous deep-sea nuclear torpedoes. And if in America begin to raise the issue of reducing nuclear weapons - spit in their faces for such arrogance.
    1. +7
      19 March 2017 07: 51
      Quote: Volzhanin
      And who said that America was not overlaid with nuclear mines around the perimeter. For a long time already came across since not to do this would be utter and diotism. I think there are already a dozen statuses, as well, otherwise it would be foolish to highlight it in SMRAD. Yes, and a yellow stone has something to set fire to. What the hell missile defense will stop the Governor with Satan.


      I would really like to, but 90% is not so - where did Zin come from!

      Yeltsin, along with the living liberals, drank and danced all the allotted time!

      Now it's 41 years old, and June 22 is just around the corner!

      Are we ready?
      1. +2
        19 March 2017 12: 35
        Do you know what alarmists do?
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  3. +2
    19 March 2017 07: 34
    Yes, the United States will not succeed in a “quick global strike” without a good response. It’s just that the Americans are sick with a “global love” for Russia (the USSR), therefore bad heads are making all kinds of plans cherishing the hope that they will not be reached across the ocean, but they are all and everything.
    1. +3
      19 March 2017 08: 37
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Yes, the United States will not succeed in a “quick global strike” without a good response.

      Oh ho ho! So, the States are not in a hurry, as long as the reality of the otvetka remains! But they wait and "do something" so that there is no "answer"! Doesn't History teach that it is equally dangerous to overestimate an adversary and underestimate it! Is there an opportunity now, “on our own”, to really evaluate the concept of the United States, so that it is possible to determine and outline a real opposition to this concept of the Belarusian State University ??? Pliz!
      1. +1
        19 March 2017 08: 56
        Well, no one overestimates their strength.
        so that it would be possible to determine, outline a real opposition to this concept of BSU ???

        Do you think that in the General Staff they just sit wearing epaulets and picking their nose? Russia has been taught over the centuries to be constantly ready for war. But when they tried to engage in hatred, then later they felt all the “charms” of an undeserved exaggeration of their strengths and capabilities.
        1. +5
          19 March 2017 11: 33
          Quote: rotmistr60
          Do you think that in the General Staff they just sit wearing epaulets and picking their nose?

          Imagine ... I somehow did not think: did they pick their nose or blow their nose in a scarf ....!
          Quote: rotmistr60
          Russia has been taught over the centuries to be constantly ready for war.

          So, you think that Russia was ready for war: Crimean ... (1853-56 years); Russian-Japanese (1904-05); World War II (1914-18); Finnish ... 1940г; World War II ......?
          And each time, a common "characteristic feature" is the assurance of the Russian people from the "top" in Russia's readiness for war ... Therefore, I want to be sure of the "readiness" of my country on the basis of facts, not verbal "blah blah blah "....
          1. +1
            19 March 2017 11: 36
            So can you read the comment to the end? Or is there not enough time in "worries about the country"?
            ... But when they tried to engage in hatred, then later they felt on themselves all the "charms" of the undeserved exaggeration of their strengths and capabilities.
            1. +1
              19 March 2017 11: 55
              Well, in my comment there are lines "similar" to your last ... but this is the answer to:
              Quote: rotmistr60
              Russia has been taught over the centuries to be constantly ready for war.
      2. 0
        19 March 2017 09: 05
        Is there an opportunity now, “on our own”, to really evaluate the concept of the United States, so that it is possible to determine and outline a real opposition to this concept of BSU ??? Pliz!

        Those. In your opinion, an active modernization of the fleet is not a counteraction to this concept?
        1. +1
          19 March 2017 09: 52
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          Those. In your opinion, an active modernization of the fleet is not a counteraction to this concept?

          Duc, I don’t “paraffin” anyone ... just, announce, pliz, “the whole list”!
          1. +2
            19 March 2017 10: 12
            Duc, I don’t “paraffin” anyone ... just, announce, pliz, “the whole list”!

            The "whole list" of what? A list of weapons to prevent BSU, or a list of the insolvency of this strike?
            It is enough that the concentration of SLCM carriers for BSU cannot be made invisible to our MO.
            1. +3
              19 March 2017 11: 38
              Quote: Rostovchanin
              The "whole list" of what? A list of weapons to prevent BSU, or a list of the insolvency of this strike?

              Yes for your choice! What is more interesting for you? Which topic do you have a better command of? After all, this article can be viewed from different poles! It is never harmful to listen to a smart person!
      3. +5
        19 March 2017 10: 46
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        But they wait and "do something" so that there is no "answer"!

        Oh ... how do we sit and wait until they succeed? Tell me, dear, what will the United States do when Sarmat appears? Or, for example, on a BZHRK Barguzin on duty? And also explain to me how mattresses are going to be implemented by BSU, if the bulk of their missile defense is based on ships?
        Well, I’ll keep silent about Status-6, because many people consider this project a fake, which I doubt very much, because it is a painfully cheap way to calm down any aggressive thoughts in relation to us from any adversary ... and what’s most interesting, that no missile defense can protect the shores of the United States, Europe, etc. from such a torpedo robot.
        1. +2
          19 March 2017 11: 45
          Quote: NEXUS
          and what about the appearance of the Sarmatian US? Or, for example, on a BZHRK Barguzin on duty?

          “Don’t beat a wedge under an oat pancake, fry it, it will fall off!” That is, problems often have this property: they are solved as they arrive! And I “answered” some questions in another “comment”.
          1. +2
            19 March 2017 13: 11
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            there is such a property: they are solved as they become available!

            That is, they spoiled the air without saying anything ... go on, it's interesting to watch you.
            1. +2
              19 March 2017 16: 14
              You appeared here to "speculate reasonably," or "to dishonor a little bit dirty"? Your “think-tank” hasn’t turned on, but I need to spend my time and explain what I already posted in the previous comments ?!
              1. +2
                19 March 2017 20: 36
                Quote: Nikolaevich I
                and I need to spend my time and explain what I have already posted in the previous comments ?!

                Your comments, dear, do not cost anything from the semantic meaning, from the word at all. Before writing such nonsense with the intelligent face of a knowledgeable person, at least you first need to have at least some of the information and a bit of elementary logic .... Well, for example ...
                But they wait and "do something" so that there is no "answer"

                And so point by point, what do they do, but we do not?
                They are re-arming and introducing new weapon systems into operation, striving not to level our nuclear potential. Question-And the perimeter has long been removed from duty? Question number two — for the time that mattresses spend on inventing new ways to deliver a disarming strike with impunity, we are not creating anything to prevent this from happening?
                Question Three - Are you sure that even in such a state as there are mattress AIDs capable of intercepting most of our missiles? Especially considering the fact that the Standard missile is effective (relatively) capable of intercepting our ICBMs only in the booster section ... and this I am talking about such missiles as Topol-M, for example, which are no longer being manufactured and are not being purchased by our Defense Ministry.
                I repeat the question that I asked already — In order to deliver a disarming strike, mattresses should come as close to our shores as possible ... while baring their shores, leaving them without cover for their missile defense ... And there is one such point in the BSU concept, which is unacceptable damage is called. So, enlighten me dark, how, under all these conditions, mattresses will circumvent this point, which is mandatory?
                In 18, Barguzin will be on duty, by the year 20 replacement of the Governor of the Sarmatians will begin ... do you think that in 3 years the mattresses can do something, given the conditions and the systems at their disposal at the moment?
                1. +3
                  20 March 2017 03: 51
                  Yo mine! Yes, you would have cleaned your "attic" before you "appear" here with "criticism"! If you are not happy with my short “something”, then “dig deeper” .... on the Internet! I wrote briefly; because "details" would take a lot of time and space on the "page" ... moreover, many of these "details" relate to the topic already outlined by the author of the article! By the way, "re-read" your "comments" ... for example. also did not find “signs of reason” in them ... the only words that have meaning are “Sarmat” and the BARGZ “Barguzin”! What are you talking about nonsense? As if I wrote this article and I prove the "defenselessness" of Russia before the BSU! I only slightly (!) Examined the "prescribed" situation from the "different poles"! So why are you clutching like a mongrel in a trouser leg? I think that your neighbors are "on the porch". Before deciding to leave "at home," they listen at the door for a few minutes so that (God forbid!) Not meet you on the stairs!
        2. +1
          19 March 2017 15: 51
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          But they wait and "do something" so that there is no "answer"!

          Oh ... how do we sit and wait until they succeed? Tell me, dear, what will the United States do when Sarmat appears? Or, for example, on a BZHRK Barguzin on duty? And also explain to me how mattresses are going to be implemented by BSU, if the bulk of their missile defense is based on ships?
          Well, I’ll keep silent about Status-6, because many people consider this project a fake, which I doubt very much, because it is a painfully cheap way to calm down any aggressive thoughts in relation to us from any adversary ... and what’s most interesting, that no missile defense can protect the shores of the United States, Europe, etc. from such a torpedo robot.


          And I would love to see what they will do after the change of our liberal economy to a planned one, and the execution of traitors
          1. 0
            20 March 2017 19: 03
            Quote: free
            And I would love to see what they will do after the change of our liberal economy to a planned one, and the execution of traitors

            I would love to look at the very process of transition from a liberal market economy to a planned market economy (approximately what China has today and what the ideologists of the late USSR were afraid of). In reality, the probability of this event is very, very low. But you managed to dashingly jump over the process itself and at once you were
            Quote: free
            after changing our liberal economy to planned
      4. 0
        23 March 2017 00: 32
        stop smoking, sir. You are funny.
  4. +3
    19 March 2017 08: 31
    whether modern armed forces (AF) are capable of inflicting a nuclear missile BSU across Russia and China in order to deprive them of state sovereignty.

    In fact, the question should sound like: "will anyone survive on Earth, except rats, in a global nuclear war."
    Everything else with a given volume of nuclear warheads suffers from a certain hypothetical effect - like the tale of the "global missile defense".
  5. +1
    19 March 2017 08: 46
    The article leaves a double impression: 1) under the guise of analysis, they tell us: do not twitch, you are already doomed. This is indicated by the first part of the article.
    2) I got the opinion that the author’s author is a mania of infallibility: his opinion is the truth in the last resort, and this makes me doubt ....... The reality of thinking.
    a) we must think at the General Staff for a long time that all vulnerabilities have been taken into account and, accordingly, they are developing countermeasures. Frogs even respond to the subconscious mind to pain (remember the lessons of physics), and people can think and analyze.
    b) the author correctly pointed out the possibilities of Trident2 if one hits the mine-based places, and the mobile poplar installations always move with all safety measures and proper protection, the same is true with installations disguised as freight wagons.
    c) Konstantin Sivkov somehow does not enjoy authority among members of the forum
  6. +4
    19 March 2017 09: 43
    It remains to lay a gigaton class charge on its territory that can split the earth or lead it out of orbit. And begin to disarm the rest of the country with the help of blackmail guaranteed mutual destruction. And when to live?
    1. +1
      19 March 2017 15: 52
      Quote: zulusuluz
      It remains to lay a gigaton class charge on its territory that can split the earth or lead it out of orbit. And begin to disarm the rest of the country with the help of blackmail guaranteed mutual destruction. And when to live?


      and that idea is even nothing wassat
      1. +1
        20 March 2017 21: 23
        This is the idea of ​​Jules Verne, proposed by him in the novel "Fulculator of Rock".
  7. +2
    19 March 2017 09: 47
    "Inspection of abstracts": 1 thesis. Figna rocket trains! Give "pro-Chinese" tunnels! “Reasoning”: 1.1- Firstly: why are Chinese. And not American “under MX”? In the states they also “dreamed” about “tunnels ... under MX” .... But they had to refuse, even for the wealthy states it seemed very expensive! Conclusion: Who does the "author" work for? Look into the eyes! 1.2- Missile trains vulnerable? Yo mine! So, from that the idea of ​​"rocket trains" became "national", that Russia (and earlier, the USSR) has a very (!) Developed railway network! Well, track the missile train on every kilometer! And the rails ... sho? It is impossible to repair and "not too long"? 2 thesis. Missile mines are easily detectable .... they will not go anywhere ... they will be destroyed even by non-nuclear high-precision weapons. Reasoners: And why not blocky, very concrete missile mines to preserve the profitability of their existence even now? Very possible! Current, you have to get the "mines" of your own missile defense ... for example, the type of KAZ "Mozyr"! Remains of nuclear explosions "not far" .... so. Just "on hand" great "concrete" and clumpiness of "missile silos!" Duc, and KAZ "Mozyr" is not a "truncated"! There are projects to change the geophysical fields of the area "around" rocket mines; visual relief of the terrain ... Thesis 3. Vulnerability of submarines. But can’t we find the right bolt for this invulnerability? Have you heard about self-propelled sea mines? And what about the "self-propelled" "marine" ("underwater") MPB? Let them lie on the seabed in suitable areas and, from time to time, change their deployment. To give them the opportunity to put warheads into orbit (such as P-36g) .. To help launched missile defense systems achieve their goals, while looking at missile defense, it is necessary to have an orbital constellation of satellites EW. You can fasten your KAZs to such satellites ... Well, okay! Something I spoke ... now there is an opportunity. If someone wants to. Break my "proposals" "to the smithereens" ......
  8. +2
    19 March 2017 10: 36
    Colonel General Leonid Ivashov believes that at present Russia is not able to defend against BSU

    In order to inflict such a blow, the United States must concentrate a large number of its warships in a short time in one area and preferably closer to our shores .... And this raises a number of questions to comrade Ivashov ...
    First, are the States able to do this quickly and quickly? I think not...
    Second, will our intelligence not already see the concentration of mattress ships at its borders?
    Third, the main part of the US missile defense is the US naval forces with the AID system ... in preparation for the BSU, the mattresses will bare their shores, leaving them without a missile defense ... the result is obvious, and therefore no BSU is feasible.
    1. +1
      19 March 2017 10: 53
      In order to inflict such a blow, the United States must concentrate a large number of its warships in a short time in one area and preferably closer to our shores .... And this raises a number of questions to comrade Ivashov ...
      First, are the States able to do this quickly and quickly? I think not...
      Second, will our intelligence not already see the concentration of mattress ships at its borders?
      Third, the main part of the US missile defense is the US naval forces with the AID system ... in preparation for the BSU, the mattresses will bare their shores, leaving them without a missile defense ... the result is obvious, and therefore no BSU is feasible.

      I hold it at 100. In addition, it’s enough to try to think “from the opposite”, but is the United States capable of such a blow? After all, if all the Mk 41 UVP are loaded exclusively in the shock version, then the ships “sacrifice” the SAM and RCC cells, and this exposes their defenses. To shoot from SSGN, of which only 4 can be a banana republic, but not a country with the capabilities of PLO, especially the positions for attacks of this kind, have long been known to our military. Why did we suddenly need to immediately restore the base on the Mediterranean Sea? One option is to push the positional areas of such a strike into the western part of the Mediterranean.
      1. +5
        19 March 2017 10: 56
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        After all, if all UVP Mk 41 is loaded exclusively in the shock version

        There is one more point ... are the Ohio nuclear submarines capable of firing a volley at all BC? I can assume that not.
        1. +1
          19 March 2017 11: 06
          There is one more point ... are the Ohio nuclear submarines capable of firing a volley at all BC? I can assume that not.

          according to sources on the network, launching missiles with an interval of 15-20 seconds, it is easy to calculate how many 154 missiles will fly.
          Another point is to overcome several military districts with deeply echeloned defense of air defense, along the already well-known trajectories ... without retaliatory strike ... well, well ...
          1. 0
            19 March 2017 12: 13
            Quote: Rostovchanin
            according to sources on the network, launching missiles with an interval of 15-20 seconds, it is easy to calculate how many 154 missiles will fly.

            Why 154 rockets? On one Ohio submarine - 24 missiles. That is, it takes about 7 minutes to launch all the missiles.
            1. +1
              19 March 2017 12: 48
              Ohio submarines are two versions of SSBN and converted after START (limiting SLBMs to 14 pieces, and there were 18 of them) SSGN - 4 pieces, with SLCMs in the amount of 154 (7 pieces in a container, in converted BR mines.
            2. +4
              19 March 2017 13: 12
              Quote: Normal ok
              Why 154 rockets? On one Ohio submarine - 24 missiles. That is, it takes about 7 minutes to launch all the missiles.

              Are you sure Ohio is capable of firing a volley of 24 ICBMs?
              1. 0
                19 March 2017 20: 06
                The fact that this submarine did not allow all 24 ICBMs does not mean that it will not be able to do this.
                1. +3
                  19 March 2017 20: 52
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  The fact that this submarine did not allow all 24 ICBMs does not mean that it will not be able to do this.

                  Dear, do you at least approximately understand what a volley is for all BC? The well-known operation Hippopotamus fell through the first time and only Hippopotamus-2 was successful ... and this is 16 ICBMs, not 24 ...
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                    1. +3
                      19 March 2017 21: 33
                      Quote from rudolf
                      Good evening, Andrey!

                      Greetings, Rudolph! hi
                      Quote from rudolf
                      Considering that we have not grazed American SSBNs in the areas of their deployment for a long time, and the Chinese have not yet reached this point soon, the Americans can easily afford any SLBM salvo launcher mode that is comfortable for them.

                      Rudolph, what prevents us from shooting in the same comfort? Or does religion not allow us? The question is that we will respond to their even protracted comfortable volley with all our nuclear arsenal ... so this is not essential in essence.
                      They need our missiles, after their BSU, to either remain in the mines or be destroyed, otherwise this concept is a failure. All that cimis is precisely in this- Do not give us an answer.
                      Now a question on the topic, you, as a submariner, Our submarines will be able to produce a volley from the wall? I will answer for you, they can. Then what are we talking about then?
                      And one more question, I am sure that their vaunted IJIS is able to intercept, say, Sineva, not in the acceleration section?
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        2. +8
          19 March 2017 22: 31
          Exactly. For the “Ohio” and then let it go is a whole troubles. About two and three ... they don’t even dream. It seems only ours managed to launch all missiles with submarines. Operation Hippo. . So not everything is chocolate with amers.
    2. 0
      19 March 2017 20: 04
      "Third, the main part of the US missile defense is the US naval forces with the IJIS system ... in preparation for the BSU, the mattresses will bare their shores, leaving them without missile defense." On the shore, they also have missile defense systems, the same GBI, they want to bring the number of missile defense systems to 100, as well as THAAD ER and advanced RAC 3 of which the United States has more than 900 launchers. As well as the numerous satellite constellation SPRN PRO, together with ground-based radars - their territory will definitely not remain without protection.
      1. +2
        19 March 2017 20: 57
        Quote: Vadim237
        On the shore, they also have missile defense systems, the same GBI, they want to bring the number of missile defense systems to 100, as well as THAAD ER and advanced RAC 3 of which the United States has more than 900 launchers.

        With arithmetic I see you are well-controlled ... and you can ask a question. - How many missile defense systems are needed for one target? I’ll tell you from two to five ... and now we recall how many, say one Voivode carries a turret with a nuclear weapon and how many spoilers ... this applies to Sineva, and Clubs, etc. ... Enough of what you have listed here in order to bring down targets flying in hypersound? And if you recall the same Sarmat, then the warheads then change its flight path, which makes interception impossible at all.
        1. +1
          19 March 2017 21: 11
          “And the Clubs” It’s better to keep silent about this missile, such a technological disgrace, our missile school did not know yet.
          1. +2
            19 March 2017 21: 13
            Quote: Vadim237
            “And the Clubs” It’s better to keep silent about this missile, such a technological disgrace, our missile school did not know yet.

            She has already been sent for modernization, and I am sure that soon she will be returned to duty and there will be no need to blush for her more.
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  9. +1
    19 March 2017 11: 14
    Before applying the BSU, it is necessary to disable the SPRN and the NTsUO of the Russian Federation, disable the "Perimeter", and to do this from the outside is practically impossible.
    1. +2
      19 March 2017 12: 14
      Quote: raid14
      Before applying the BSU, it is necessary to disable the SPRN and the NTsUO of the Russian Federation, disable the "Perimeter", and to do this from the outside is practically impossible.

      A couple of suitcases of cut paper “whoever needs it” can do what the rockets won’t do.
    2. +2
      19 March 2017 13: 13
      Quote: raid14
      almost impossible.

      Not practically. IMPOSSIBLE at all.
    3. +1
      19 March 2017 20: 11
      "Disable" Perimeter "It is no longer there, this system was removed from service in 1996, only some of its components remain.
      1. +1
        19 March 2017 20: 20
        Quote: Vadim237
        "Disable" Perimeter "It is no longer there, this system was removed from service in 1996, only some of its components remain.

        - Vadim, take the motto "I Know Everything", you will do laughing
      2. +2
        19 March 2017 20: 38
        Quote: Vadim237
        "Disable" Perimeter "It is no longer there, this system was removed from service in 1996, only some of its components remain.

        Come on ... what's serious? Have reliable verified information?
        1. +1
          19 March 2017 20: 47
          On the channel, Top Secret, they talked about this system.
          1. +4
            19 March 2017 20: 59
            Quote: Vadim237
            On the channel, Top Secret, they talked about this system.

            On the fence, I also saw how they wrote this ... imagine, somehow I believe. wassat Turn your brains on and think, the Perimeter system in itself is not a topic with one or even two security stamps ... who will be talking to the media about this except for the narrow-minded magazines?
            1. +2
              19 March 2017 21: 04
              Quote: NEXUS
              Turn on your brain and think ...

              - IMHO wasting time.
              - there are no brains, only reflexes request
              1. +1
                19 March 2017 21: 17
                You don’t have any brains - to guess that a system capable of launching nuclear missiles without human intervention carries a great danger in itself and no matter how reliable it is, everything breaks down, especially complex systems - which was the “Perimeter of the RC”
                1. 0
                  19 March 2017 21: 19
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  ... to guess that a system capable of launching nuclear missiles without human intervention carries a great danger in itself ...

                  - Vadim, you are asking for a specific diagnosis ...
                  - Do you really need it?
                  - But the fact that all your reasoning here is somewhere at the level of the senior group of the kindergarten is just the lazy one does not know ... request
                  1. +1
                    19 March 2017 23: 54
                    "And the fact that all your reasoning here is somewhere at the level of the senior group of the kindergarten is only the lazy one does not know ..." - If so, then yours are at the level of the manger. It’s time for my grandfather to retire.
                    1. 0
                      19 March 2017 23: 59
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      If so, then your ...

                      - oh ... the boy was offended belay

                      Quote: Vadim237
                      Grandpa is time to retire

                      - and would be glad to paradise, yes sins are not allowed not a year left
                      - Put commas, at least sometimes, okay? wink
                2. +3
                  19 March 2017 21: 36
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  to guess that a system capable of launching nuclear missiles without human intervention carries a great danger in itself

                  For some 50 years it wasn’t dangerous, but now it’s suddenly become ... where is the logic then? I will say more, thanks to the Perimeter, we are talking with you here ...
                  1. +1
                    19 March 2017 23: 44
                    “Something like 50 years” - 50 years ago we had ICBMs in service - there weren’t any “Perimeters”.
                    1. +1
                      19 March 2017 23: 54
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      “Something like 50 years” - 50 years ago we had ICBMs in service - there weren’t any “Perimeters”.

                      - OH! Vadim learned to count belay
                      - That's right, Vadim ... The perimeter was put into operation in 1985, as Vika is lying. That is, 30+ years ago, and not "kicked."
                      - this, however, does not change the essence of what has been said NEXUSbut you should undoubtedly, um ... console laughing
              2. +6
                21 March 2017 09: 30
                Novel as ALWAYS BURNING !!! good
            2. +1
              20 March 2017 09: 25
              I am more and more inclined to believe that there wasn’t any “Perimeter” - in the form everyone describes it, it’s most likely just a separate line of government communication that includes a nuclear case, for communication with the Strategic Missile Forces and all launches are made exclusively manually.
              1. +2
                20 March 2017 09: 33
                Quote: Vadim237
                I am more and more inclined to the fact that there wasn’t any “Perimeter”

                You are an interesting person ... at first you declare that the Perimeter was withdrawn from service, now you are thinking that it was not there at all ... you at least decide ...
                1. 0
                  20 March 2017 11: 33
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  Quote:
                  I am more and more inclined to the fact that there wasn’t any “Perimeter”


                  Quote: NEXUS
                  You are an interesting person ... at first you declare that the Perimeter was withdrawn from service, now you are thinking that it was not there at all ... you at least decide ...

                  Colleague, I already wrote above -
                  Mb With this material, the Yankees, through their agents - the journalist of the "free press" - are trying to figure out the algorithms of the MR? ;)))

                  * PySy: lousiness is to try to oppose the liberals of the 5 column, the trolls of the foreign country, and the mistaken Kracles. I once called them the exact name of a famous bird. Only the owners of VO did not like it.


                  Add for those interested -
                  All veterans who have at least some idea of ​​the work of the "Dead Hand", especially, in contact with this topic - at all their forums and conferences declare: "this topic should not be discussed more deeply than it is in the media and generally bypassed."
                  1. +1
                    20 March 2017 18: 01
                    And there’s nothing to discuss, “Dead Hand” is just an autonomous system, military communications with nuclear weapons.
                  2. +7
                    21 March 2017 09: 33
                    I’ll insert “my 5 cents” - from the veterans I also heard the name “Dead Hand”. In addition to the name and general purpose, nothing more was said.
                2. +1
                  20 March 2017 17: 41
                  You generally know how to read - "I am more and more inclined to believe that there really wasn’t any" Perimeter "- in the form that everyone describes it."
  10. +1
    19 March 2017 12: 17
    I read reviews and marvel at the naivety and illiteracy of people. Dear forum users, I want to ask, what is your military rank? Is it comparable with the Colonel General, who graduated from the Military Academy. M.V. Frunze, who served as the head of the Main Directorate for International Military Cooperation of the Ministry of Defense of Russia and held other senior positions? Probably and close incomparably. Probably he knows best of all you the real state of affairs and the capabilities of our army and the Amer. Moreover, he is retired (a pensioner) and can tell the truth, in contrast to the active military, who will immediately be driven out of service for such unpatriotic statements. In 1941, too, everyone was shouting, they say the Red Army is stronger than all, we will throw our hats and instantly defeat. What did you forget? So why the hell are they singing the same songs again now?
    1. 0
      19 March 2017 12: 55
      Why don’t you suppose the idea that Colonel General Ivashov is not publishing these articles in the interests of the Moscow Region, in order to form a public opinion that “everything is lost”? This can kill several birds with one stone.
    2. +1
      19 March 2017 15: 26
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Probably he knows best of all you the real state of affairs and the capabilities of our army and the Amer

      Does not know.
      Sea-based cruise missiles (SLCMs) made using stealth technology are suitable for the “Fast Global Strike” in the United States. The US Armed Forces are armed with over 3000 SLCMs, which are launched from submarines and ships with conventional or nuclear warheads.

      There is NO ONE sea-based stealth cruise missile on the armament of the US Armed Forces. There are Tomahawks, which have all the stealth - flying at low altitude. These are well-known facts.
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Probably he knows the real state of affairs better than all of you

      And who told you that he writes this, that he really thinks?
  11. +1
    19 March 2017 12: 33
    BSU doctrine is another horror story. Remember the Star Wars. This is such a strategy. It is necessary to intimidate the enemy
  12. 0
    19 March 2017 12: 35
    Even if BSU is 99% successful (I can’t even imagine how to do it, but suddenly they come up with this), and only 15 charges will fall into the United States, this is a defeat.
    15 cities of millionaires are erased from the map. And the city is production, roads, the concentration of material values ​​and food. Tens of millions of people without food and water, but with radiation sickness. The country is in a deep crisis, compared with which the Great Depression is a children's party. What other big players will definitely take advantage of. And this is only with 1% of the surviving charges.
    Military people are smart, and always plan their actions, providing for ideal and disastrous options. At the moment, even the ideal option for not just Russia, Korea, is unacceptable to the United States.
    1. +1
      19 March 2017 20: 16
      If military industry is not destroyed, then the war can be considered lost. In the United States, the lion's share of all industry is outside the cities, even if all 1700 warheads are achieved, they will destroy only a quarter or a third of US industrial facilities - of which there are one and a half million.
  13. +4
    19 March 2017 13: 01
    Quote: Monarchist
    The article leaves a double impression: 1) under the guise of analysis, they tell us: do not twitch, you are already doomed. This is indicated by the first part of the article.
    2) I got the opinion that the author’s author is a mania of infallibility: his opinion is the truth in the last resort, and this makes me doubt ....... The reality of thinking.

    The article impresses:
    1. Customized to the bone marrow
    2. Delusional by the given examples
    3. Absolutely amateurish in fact

    We leave aside your claim 1, it is not so important in the light of the article. According to claim 2, you are right. Indeed, the impression is that the author has only two opinions - Him and wrong. At least I would remove the letter from this phrase и. It would turn out its wrong laughing .

    Quote: Rostovchanin
    BSU concept implies non-nuclear SLCM strikes

    Not only. The concept involves more than just a hit non-nuclear SLCMbut also hit non-nuclear ICBM / SLBM, strike (non-nuclear) from space (Falcon projects and others), it is possible that a non-nuclear strike by bombers. In fact, for decades, Americans have only and exclusively CONCEPT. The means to execute this concept by the Americans DOES NOT EXIST

    Quote: NEXUS
    Oh ... how do we sit and wait until they succeed? Tell me, dear, what will the United States do when Sarmat appears? Or, for example, to be on duty BZHRK Barguzin ?.

    You won’t believe, Andrey, but it seems NOTHING they do not intend to undertake the deployment of these systems. The only area of ​​work that can be seen is the further development of missile defense.

    In addition, what is SARMAT. This is a complex that will replace "VOEVODU". About the same amount as there is now (maybe a little more).

    Statement by BZHRK BARGUZIN It will not be known when. To do this, you need to test this missile and carry out such a bunch of events that are extremely expensive, so far it is impossible to say with a 100% guarantee whether it will even be deployed.

    After all, it is planned to have only one division, and it is hardly advisable to start all this expensive movement for the sake of one division. In addition, in the list of divisions so far there is not a single one that would suit this role. Means what? Form a new one?

    Quote: NEXUS
    And also explain to me how mattresses are going to be implemented by BSU, if the bulk of their missile defense is based on ships ?.

    Actually, Andrei, the BSU concept provides for a blow, not protection from a blow

    Quote: NEXUS
    Well, I’ll keep silent about Status-6, as many consider this project a fake, of which I strongly doubt

    You just want to believe that all this is true, not a stuffing. And the presentation itself contains such a number of organizational "mistakes" that it immediately becomes clear that this is a stuffing, a fake

    Quote: Volzhanin
    And who said that America was not overlaid with nuclear mines around the perimeter. For a long time already came across since not to do this would be utter and diotism. I think there are already a dozen statuses, as well, otherwise it would be foolish to highlight it in SMRAD. Yes, and a yellow stone has something to set fire to. What the hell missile defense will stop the Governor with Satan.


    Who said? Actually, physics. A nuclear mine off the US coast is the same fake as Status.
    Well, Yellowstone Volcano - how could it be without it. But just to set it on fire, it may take charges not in megatons, but in gigatons. Well, even the scientists themselves cannot determine how much is needed. 10 gigatons (that is, 500 "Governor" with "Satona" laughing crying laughing ), or 1 Gt may be needed, that is, 250 charges on the "Governor" with "Satan" laughing crying : laughing. Or 100 Gt, i.e. 5000 charges laughing crying : laughing

    Phrase What the hell missile defense will stop the Governor with Satan. just enchanting. Butter laughing crying : laughing

    Quote: NEXUS
    There is one more point ... are the Ohio nuclear submarines capable of firing a volley at all BC? I can assume that not.

    And make a mistake. After all, a volley with full ammunition does not mean that it must be fired with an interval of 10-15 seconds. The tests on the Ohio they conducted. A volley of four SLBMs. And as far as I remember, all the training combat units of these SLBMs reached their goals at the training ground. Which confirmed the possibility of a successful salvo launch on targets.

    Quote: Author
    It should also be recalled that in the United States in Yellowstone Park is one of the largest volcanoes on the planet (the crater of the volcano is about 60 km). Now the volcano has begun to “come to life”. According to experts, if in a crater to explode a nuclear charge of sufficient power,


    I repeat once again exclusively for Author (although he is unlikely to appear here) Even specialists do not know what kind of power is needed in order to “kindle a volcano”. And in what quantities it will be measured. In megatons, tens of megatons, gigatons or tens of gigatons.
    As for the volcano waking up. Again, experts are not ready to say when this significant event will happen: in a week, month, year, decade, or a hundred years later

    Quote: Author
    The total number of intercontinental ballistic missiles in the USA is about 800, and in Russia - about 500, from these are “land” launchers (aircraft and submarines at parking lots and bases, mine and mobile soil complexes) are no more than 400.

    Phrase - A MASTERPIECE. The total number of ICBMs, including aircraft and submarines in parking lots, mine and soil complexes. Immediately visible SPECIAL VERY HIGH CLASS. He even aircraft in the parking lots are INTERCONTINENTIAL BALLISTIC ROCKETS. Well, with numbers, the author juggles as you please.

    Quote: Author
    Academician Sakharov proposed to mine the western and eastern coasts of the United States with unrecoverable nuclear mines. When the US attacks the USSR, a signal is given for a mine explosion and waves are formed hundreds of meters high

    It is very doubtful that such a scientist as Academician Sakharov could suggest such nonsense - non-recoverable nuclear mines. For, unlike the author, he knew very well, as the author of such “toys,” that they should undergo routine maintenance, certain elements in which short-lived radioactive elements are used must be replaced. It is not for nothing that the Strategic Missile Forces carry out regulations on the "Heads" at a strictly defined time, sometimes several times a year. And solely so that these "Heads" then work. And here are the "unrecoverable mines." Damn, at least the author learned the materiel. And then I dragged in the beak of "every little bit"
    1. +1
      19 March 2017 13: 33
      Quote: Rostovchanin
      BSU concept implies non-nuclear SLCM strikes
      Not only. The concept implies not only a strike by non-nuclear SLCMs, but also a strike by non-nuclear ICBM / SLBMs, a strike (non-nuclear) from space (Falcon projects and others), it is possible that a non-nuclear strike by bombers. In fact, for decades, Americans have only and exclusively CONCEPT. The means for the implementation of this concept by the Americans do not exist.


      Moreover, it is not clear ...
      1. If they at BSU want to use non-nuclear ICBMs with a KVO of 250 meters, what can they do silos? our silos are designed for nuclear strikes, after which the launch takes place.
      2. The launch of the ICBM will automatically activate the SPRN and the response will fly.
      Bullshit, not a concept.
      1. +1
        19 March 2017 20: 20
        Possible bidders for BSU rocket X 51
        1. 0
          19 March 2017 20: 23
          Hypersonic Planning Block HTV 2
          1. +1
            19 March 2017 20: 31
            X 37 spaceship - may well take on board three warheads.
            1. 0
              19 March 2017 20: 33
              Aircraft SR 72 as a bomber will also go
              1. 0
                19 March 2017 20: 36
                Hypersonic shock drone HTV 3X
                1. +1
                  19 March 2017 20: 44
                  Medium-Range Aerial Launch of the BR - RSMD will crack, in the US, it will jump on alert.
        2. +2
          19 March 2017 21: 11
          Quote: Vadim237
          Possible bidders for BSU rocket X 51

          You are such a naive young man to God ... X-51 made three flights, if sclerosis doesn’t fail me, and burned all the way after two minutes of flight ... but our Zircon passed, if I’m not mistaken (let me correct), the throw tests and warheads with the Yu-71 seem to be successful too. And there is also the X-101/102, which is already being upgraded, making it even more long-range missile defense ... and it is already flying 5000 km. We’ll say through Alaska it’ll reach the place ..
          Sarmat, Barguzin, Rubezh (Vanguard) are on the way ... and with Status-6 not everything is so obvious (I mean that this may turn out to be true) ... enough?
          1. 0
            19 March 2017 23: 58
            “X-51 made, if my sclerosis doesn’t fail, three flights” Still ahead, in 10 years they’ll bring to the ideal - by the way, the layout of this rocket is already very often used in other projects of hypersonic missiles in different countries, which suggests that she is successful.
      2. 0
        23 March 2017 00: 35
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        our silos are designed for nuclear strikes

        whose are you?
    2. +2
      19 March 2017 20: 48
      Quote: Old26
      You won’t believe it, Andrey, but it seems they do NOT intend to undertake ANYTHING to deploy these systems. The only area of ​​work that can be seen is the further development of missile defense.

      Imagine Vladimir, I also have such an opinion ...
      Quote: Old26
      The production of the BARZ "BARGUZIN" will be made unknown when. To do this, you need to test this rocket, and carry out such a bunch of events

      YARS-M ICBM was tested ... even if an article on this topic doesn’t fail to sclerosis ... and Barguzin will be put on duty in 18-19 ... I didn’t observe statements about the postponement ...
      Quote: Old26
      Actually, Andrei, the BSU concept provides for a blow, not protection from a blow

      And where is the concept of unacceptable damage? The mattresses strive to develop a concept so that they hammer on us, and our nuclear shield couldn’t answer ... if at least 10% of our nuclear weapons find a target, this will not be acceptable for mattresses.
      Quote: Old26
      And make a mistake. After all, a volley with full ammunition does not mean that it must be fired with an interval of 10-15 seconds.

      Do you think that their submarines will be fired with their ICBMs in three days? Or do you think that our fleet will be destroyed in the first seconds of this operation and our navy will not be able to respond?
      Quote: Old26
      Which confirmed the possibility of a successful salvo launch on targets.

      On a piece of paper, in theory ... probably yes ..
  14. +2
    19 March 2017 13: 15
    The complete nonsense of pensioners Levashov and Sivkov, as well as Orlenko, who joined them.
    1. 0
      23 March 2017 00: 35
      but people hawala.
  15. +3
    19 March 2017 14: 08
    Quote: Rostovchanin
    Moreover, it is not clear ...
    1. If they at BSU want to use non-nuclear ICBMs with a KVO of 250 meters, what can they do silos? our silos are designed for nuclear strikes, after which the launch takes place.
    2. The launch of the ICBM will automatically activate the SPRN and the response will fly.
    Bullshit, not a concept.

    The whole charm of this concept is that it, in principle, is not designed for an armed conflict with Russia. the beginning was laid in due time by an attack by two "tomahawks" on the base of Bin-Laden in Afghanistan, if my sclerosis does not fail me. The missiles went to the target for about two hours and when they reached the base, bin Laden was no longer there. The question was, how to act in such situations? We came to the conclusion that the following tools are best suited for such purposes:
    1. Non-nuclear equipment of ICBMs and SLBMs. Such means can be used to defeat fairly significant targets in a non-nuclear war. But Russia throughout all this time was against it and in particular demanded the inclusion of such carriers in the general ceilings of strategic forces. The Americans, of course, were against it, but we didn’t do that either. Advances were outlined only in the START-3 treaty. There seems to be allowed the creation of EMNIP 6 launchers, but only
    = based on Vanderberg
    = on unprotected launchers, i.e. like ordinary space carriers
    The issue of control - frankly, I don’t know how it was decided, as well as the issue of notifying Russia about the launch of such missiles. If from the base of Vanderberg the Americans shoot atoll, i.e. to the south-west - for the Russian SPRN this is clear and understandable. But if we assume that the Americans will shoot at the same Afghanistan? Without notice of such a launch, we may consider such a launch as the start of a nuclear strike. The Americans themselves understand this and are in no hurry to realize these opportunities.

    2. Non-nuclear SLCMs of the Tomahawk type can be considered the second tool in the BSU concept. But for all their "sophistication" and accuracy, they have one drawback - subsonic speed. Therefore, to strike with a 100% guarantee may not work

    3. The third remedy could be non-nuclear hypersonic air-launched long-range cruise missiles, such as the American X-51. But they are still far from perfection and arming.

    4. This is a space strike means with a non-nuclear warhead. There is nothing to talk about either. There is no breakthrough.

    But despite the still very distant prospect of these funds, our propagandists took it (the concept) into service and speak of 100% orientation of this non-existent system against Russia.
    No, some elements of this system can be applied against Russia. But in the form in which it now exists - the basis of non-nuclear ICBMs / SLBMs - exclusively against third countries.
    Moreover, our very cleverly tied to this concept and the concept of the use of SLCM. Although, in principle, the concept of the use of CD is more about a quantitative component. The concept said that the United States should be able to wage war against the enemy, using a thousand missiles per day. To do this, the number of missiles in the United States should be about 30 thousand. But this concept "rested in the Bose." This amount is currently out of the question

    Of course, to say that these are all harmless "games" of our "sworn friend" is not worth it. Therefore, Russia is creating similar non-nuclear attack weapons in the framework of the well-known research
  16. 0
    19 March 2017 14: 44
    In vain hysteria. A good article, with a slight amendment to the fact that the budget cannot be knocked out by stories that everything is fine with us and that the border is already locked. That's what Americans do, and this practice has been paying off for decades. Even in the nineties, actually on the ruins of the USSR, they made films about how good MiGs and SUSHKIs were, and how hard it would be for them to fight them, if that.
    The problems were posed correctly - the link between the global strike and the European echelon of missile defense really looks scary, and it is becoming more and more difficult to guarantee the stability of our nuclear submarines in combat patrol zones.
    The obvious weak point of the article is the bet on "geophysical weapons". In order for the volcanic eruption to become truly terrifying, it is not enough to wake him up - it is necessary that he accumulate that enormous excess pressure and billions of supporting magma in order to explode. And to hit a nuclear warhead - at best, prematurely release the accumulated forces, provoking a relatively small eruption. After which the volcano will fall asleep for another thousand years.
    The rest is all about the case, and the captains would have to restrain their ardor.
    1. +1
      23 March 2017 00: 36
      it remains only to tear one's eyes and recall that the Russian Federation is far from a superpower and not the USSR.
  17. 0
    19 March 2017 14: 56
    It’s interesting to me that America doesn’t sit still, that it’s constantly looking for adventure, they don’t have any idea what is in service with us, they all think that they are the strongest, when they come down from heaven, Russia has been ahead of them for a long time, for this they have demonstrated the caliber so they have lost their fervor, this is only a tenth of what is, and the new has not been disclosed, all of their missile defense systems are now unable to bring down Russian missiles, but the Russian missile defense system sees them at the departure and will destroy them at the approach, they are all very mistaken, all of Europe will become just a battlefield, Russia will no longer fight on its territory, but if America decides all the same, then just as a country it ceases to exist, there will be another Russian Federation
  18. +2
    19 March 2017 15: 12
    BSU is not possible at the current level of rocket technology. The time of approach of the Tomahawks to the strategic missile forces positional areas is calculated in hours, and this gives us a huge reserve of time to release all ICBMs in the USA and Europe after detecting a volley of enemy missiles. To guarantee the destruction of our mines, it will be necessary to launch hundreds of cruise missiles, which means that it is necessary to concentrate dozens of their carriers off the coast of Russia, which will be instantly discovered by our intelligence even at the stage of loading the Tomahawks into cells Mk.41. It is impossible to carry out a hidden launch from the sea due to the presence of the over-horizon Sunflower radar and the Voronezh over-the-horizon radar. Start Trident-2 is easily detected by the SPRN, which entails the activation of the Perimeter system, and this is clearly not in the plans of the Americans.
    One can respond to the buildup of missile defense by withdrawing from the START treaty by deploying large-scale production of light Courier-type ICBMs. The cost of light ICBMs is several million dollars, and the American anti-missile SM-3 is 25 million, but today even the best anti-missiles cannot 100% destroy the ICBMs. Several hundred mobile light ICBMs will force the US to feverishly produce extremely expensive and not very reliable missile defense, which will undermine their economy.
  19. 0
    19 March 2017 15: 20
    BSU DSO ZS abbreviations a lot, unpleasant to read, the Communists
  20. 0
    19 March 2017 15: 27
    you need to stir up the volcano without nuclear weapons.
  21. 0
    19 March 2017 15: 30
    For some reason, it seems to me that the States, if they have a brain crisis, will act with ordinary, but high-precision and super-massed strokes. In anticipation of geological disasters on its territory, which is not the nonsense of "English scientists." Siberia, in their understanding, is their promised land for this occasion.
    And the “ours” power will hand over us in giblets and will not answer, as it is supposed in this case with nuclear Armagedon.
  22. +2
    19 March 2017 15: 43
    Quote: Pilligrim743
    I’m wondering that America doesn’t sit still, that it’s constantly looking for adventure

    Well to us too "does not sit still". When a country plays such a role in geopolitics as the United States, and this also applies to Russia, its interests become the cornerstone. And only their own. True, of course, the opinions of countries such as Russia also weigh for them, as they are for us

    Quote: Pilligrim743
    they have no idea what is in service with us now

    They are well aware that we are in service, as we imagine what they have. Do not assume that their intelligence agencies draw their conclusions solely on the basis of publications. But publications, both with them and with us - these are refined as soon as possible.

    Quote: Pilligrim743
    they all think that they are the strongest, when they come down from heaven,

    Is the US army weak? What is the weakness? The army is strong enough, well equipped.

    Quote: Pilligrim743
    Russia has been ahead of them for a long time, for this they demonstrated the caliber so that their ardor weakened, this is only a tenth of what is, and the new is not disclosed

    Are we ahead of them in the Kyrgyz Republic? Sorry, do you actually represent the total number of SLCMs among Americans and how many of them are produced per month (and, accordingly, per year)? The only thing we showed them that we also have an analogue of their "tomahawk".

    A tenth of what we have and we do not disclose it? Interestingly, how then is it known that this is 1/10? And not one fifth or one thirtieth ????

    Quote: Pilligrim743
    all of their missile defense is now unable to shoot down Russian missiles, but the Russian missile defense sees them at the start and will destroy them at the start,

    So they do not claim that it is against Russia. On the contrary, they say that the missile defense is not directed against Russia, but against Iranian missiles. The interceptors have such speeds that they are not capable of intercepting ICBMs. Every time they say that EuroPRO is against us and require some "legally binding documents" from the Americans.

    Further, as you propose to shoot down them with anti-ballistic missiles with your anti-ballistic missiles, when our ranges are not capable of shooting down targets at a distance of thousands of kilometers.
    Also read less Murzilok when it comes to detection range ...
    Neither in the State Duma of Russia, nor in the US Senate have there been legislative initiatives to abolish such a physical quantity as the radio horizon.

    Quote: Pilligrim743
    the whole of Europe will become just a battlefield, Russia will no longer fight on its territory, and if America decides yet, then just as a country it ceases to exist, there will be another Russian Federation

    Well, I have not read such super-patriotic posts for a long time. Wow, how are your brains ... MATCH LEAD, PROPHET
    1. +2
      19 March 2017 22: 58
      Quote: Old26
      The only thing we showed them that we also have an analogue of their "tomahawk".

      With all due respect, Vladimir, the Tomahawk analogue was long before the Caliber Grenade, which back in the 70s, in my opinion, then flew 2500 km .... hi
      1. 0
        23 March 2017 00: 38
        there was one analogue, another analogue became. Who's catching up with whom?
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  24. 0
    19 March 2017 16: 15
    The only way is to strike first! soldier
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      23 March 2017 00: 40
      is there a tambourine?
  25. 0
    19 March 2017 17: 37
    It’s not necessary to fight. You can buy a victory. That's just with the DPRK, so far somehow it does not work out.
  26. 0
    19 March 2017 19: 02
    Defense is not in defense, but in readiness to strike back. The number of goals for BSU should be more than the States can afford missiles. However, today, due to the Gobachev concessions, the States have many times more missiles reaching the territory of Russia than we reach the United States. Deploying sea and air assets is expensive. So, there should be a lot of false missile silos and other targets. Goodbye OSV contracts ?!
    .
    By the way, if you go beyond the framework of the WWS, then a single-block ICBM can weigh about 10 tons, be cheap and secretive. A variant is also possible when a missile base has a couple of hundred mines without missiles. A rocket is the most expensive, and a mine without extra protection costs a penny. Imagine a hundred wells connected below by tunnels and a protected warehouse of missiles at a depth of a kilometer. Even if this mine is just a concrete pipe with a diameter of 75 cm and a length of a hundred meters - each of them will have to spend a rocket with a warhead, worth a hundred million green. Moreover, the location of the mines is unknown! They can be drilled in warehouses and hangars, under the guise of artesian wells and pile driving. Even if only one mine survives, through it after the destruction of the enemy’s satellites it is possible to release the entire arsenal of the base.
    Ten thousand mines will absorb the full potential of BSU and still remain. They will need less than one thread of metal and cement per thread of the Nord Stream.
    Guidance systems for retaliation can also be greatly simplified and cheapened. A retaliation will not be able to use GLONASS, but you can make a guidance system from the ground very cheaply and accurately enough to hit targets such as cities. So cheap that it can be used even for artillery shells ...
    .
    In general, I compare the tantrum of the article with the situation around SDI in the 80s. If you play according to the rules established by amers, then everything is gone. But it is worth going beyond these prejudices - and you can guarantee a retaliatory strike cheaply and reliably. Politically, one should advertise the creation of precisely the potential of a retaliatory strike - low-precision, but numerous. Fighting and attacking is unsuitable, and revenge is always welcome.
  27. +2
    19 March 2017 22: 08
    Quote: NEXUS
    YARS-M ICBM was tested ... even if an article on this topic doesn’t fail to sclerosis ... and Barguzin will be put on duty in 18-19 ... I didn’t observe statements about the postponement ...

    "Yars-M" is not just tested, but is already on combat duty. Statements that "Frontier" = "Yarsu-M" belong exclusively to Ivashov.
    And this goes against well-known events. Namely, that "Yars-M" is put in the mines of the Kozelsky division. So then Ivashov’s statements that “Rubezh” is “Yars-M” are not worth a damn. For in this sense I trust the Commander-in-Chief of the Strategic Missile Forces, who said that Rubezh would not be put into mines. And this means that it is impossible to put an equal sign between Yars-M and Rubezh. The indices of Yars-M and Yars differ by only one digit, but not the main one.
    Further. Trials of ICBMs for the Barguzin were only one - throw. Maybe in 2017 there will still be throw tests of ICBMs for Barguzin, but the fact that there will be no flying is a 100% guarantee. It is known how many missile launches will be made in 2017 and how much these launches are insured for. and so there the presence of launches of ICBMs for Barguzin is not visible.

    In addition, no one ever claimed that Yars-M or Rubezh would be on Barguzin. The only thing that Solomonov announced was the following: a missile for the BZHRK is being developed using developments on the Yars and Rubezh complexes , “Mace.” Why throwing tests if this is one of the missiles that have already passed the test is completely unclear. BIs are tests that allow you to determine if the product normally leaves the launcher. In this case, the TPK. But all of the above rockets have already passed even flight, not to mention throwing put into service, why else throwing ??

    Quote: NEXUS
    And where is the concept of unacceptable damage? The mattresses strive to develop a concept so that they hammer on us, and our nuclear shield couldn’t answer ... if at least 10% of our nuclear weapons find a target, this will not be acceptable for mattresses.

    The term unacceptable damage was born half a century before the term “Fast global strike” appeared. He says only one thing, what losses (damage) the country considers unacceptable for itself. Under McNamar, it was the EMNIP of about a third of the population and 60% of the industrial potential. Now it’s quite possible the numbers have changed. To cause unacceptable damage by means of BSU is not possible due to the complete lack thereof. And against a country with powerful nuclear potential, this is technically impossible ...

    Quote: NEXUS
    Do you think that their submarines will be fired with their ICBMs in three days? Or do you think that our fleet will be destroyed in the first seconds of this operation and our navy will not be able to respond?

    No need to ascribe to me what I did not say. I only said that a volley launch with all ammunition does not mean that all SLBMs will be released at intervals of 10-15 seconds. Why - above the comrade Rudolph very well explained. But "Hippo-2" showed only one thing. That the boat didn’t fall apart at such a launch. The target came only the warheads of two missiles

    Quote: NEXUS
    On a piece of paper, in theory ... probably yes ..

    In practice too. In this test, the Americans reached the firing range, which only confirmed that firing in series of 4 SLBMs with an interval of a few minutes between the series is enough to ensure that all the blocks reach the target.
    1. +2
      19 March 2017 22: 42
      Quote: Old26
      So then Ivashov’s statements that “Rubezh” is “Yars-M” are not worth a damn.

      I recall our conversation, in which, if sclerosis doesn’t fail me, they claimed that YRS-M is Rubezh (Vanguard) ... correct me if I made a mistake. But not the point ... There is already a boundary in the metal, as well as YRS-M. Further, Sarmat, who is intensively tested, or rather its units and parts ... and with the arrival of Sarmat, there will be a completely different conversation.
      Quote: Old26
      Under McNamar, it was the EMNIP of about a third of the population and 60% of the industrial potential. Now it’s quite possible the numbers have changed.

      I’m not sure what cardinally ... call me a storyteller, but I still think that Status-6 is not a fake ... indirect evidence of this is the construction of the Khabarovsk and Belgorod submarines ... what they are armed with a big question, but the conversation is about robotic systems ... and if Status-6 is really not a fake, then the situation will change dramatically, even without taking into account new ICBMs and trains ...
    2. 0
      23 March 2017 00: 41
      Are you able to describe your entire stream of thoughts briefly, in a couple of sentences? Otherwise, ordinary Russian men do not understand you. Where to throw hats?
  28. +2
    19 March 2017 22: 49
    rudolff,
    Rudolph, it's not about the Hippos and volleys from the wall ... it's about the retaliatory strike ... and there is no difference how it will be delivered, it is important that it WILL!
    Quote from rudolf
    implies the absence of opposing forces within operational reach

    And I'm sorry, why are we multi-purpose? Not for guarding missile carriers? Well, yes, we are building Ash slowly, and Shchuk-B only if it does not change sclerosis is only 15, but this is enough to give time to our Boreas and Dolphins with Squids to shoot.
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  29. +1
    20 March 2017 00: 06
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Old26
    The only thing we showed them that we also have an analogue of their "tomahawk".

    With all due respect, Vladimir, the Tomahawk analogue was long before the Caliber Grenade, which back in the 70s, in my opinion, then flew 2500 km .... hi

    No Andrew no
    Our "Pomegranate" was an analogue of the version of BGM-109A, that is, the nuclear "tomahawk". But all the rest, non-nuclear versions of the Tomahawk, we had no analogues. And just 3M14 is the analogue of these versions of Tomahawk.
    1. 0
      20 March 2017 20: 23
      And just 3M14 is the analogue of these versions of Tomahawk. With the adoption of this missile, we are twenty years behind the United States.
  30. +2
    20 March 2017 01: 59
    article on the fool! maybe someone will reveal the secret .... Kick would give you a scribbler
  31. +9
    20 March 2017 10: 33
    ... stop For us, the volcano and the San Andreas Fault
    1. +1
      20 March 2017 20: 26
      These two are obviously dead hopes. The volcano will not explode, the fault will not disperse.
  32. +1
    20 March 2017 13: 16
    Did the author write about BSU in relation to Russia, and not some small country? Flight time 10-15 minutes for a tomahawk ...... where and where does it fly interestingly from? Strange, very strange. Another moment, in the USSR I remember it was not about mining the US coast, but about laying charges in the region of the Atlantic fault, then small charges can lead to movements of mainland plates and the emergence of monstrous waves.
    1. 0
      20 March 2017 20: 34
      "Another moment, in the USSR I remember it was not about mining the US coast, but about laying charges in the region of the Atlantic fault, then small charges can lead to movements of mainland plates and the emergence of monstrous waves." These ideas were abandoned, in view of the impossibility of achieving this in practice.
  33. +1
    21 March 2017 03: 45
    1. The article presents an example of a distortion of facts.
    So in 1988, the Lockheed company, on the order of the Navy, carried out theoretical calculations of the flat launch trajectories of the Trident-2 SLBM over short distances - two to three thousand kilometers for “soft” targets. The calculations were made according to the types of trajectories from NT-60 to NT-180 for a range of 2000 kilometers and from NT-95 to NT-370 per 3000 (the index indicates the height of the apogee of the trajectory). The research results were partially published and the corresponding conclusion was made: firing a D-5 rocket at NT at short distances is possible even with a 40 percent reduction in flight time. But for such an opportunity will have to pay dearly. Since most of the rocket’s flight along NT will take place in dense layers of the atmosphere, it is necessary to increase the acceleration speed of the platform from 6,5 to 8,7, and in some cases even up to 9,2 kilometers per second. And this can only be done with a reduced composition of warheads, that is, from one to three. At the same time, the accuracy of shooting is significantly deteriorating, the KVO is increasing by orders of magnitude - up to 6400 meters when shooting at 2000 kilometers and 7700 meters - at 3000.
    More details: http://vpk-news.ru/articles/21318.
    that is, existing missiles cannot be effectively used without deep modernization to compensate for the drop in accuracy, and the number of delivered warheads by 3000 km falls from 8/14 to 1/3
    (the standard load of trident 2 is up to 8 W88 (475 ct) or up to 14 W76 (100 ct)) In my opinion, idiots cannot spoil missiles.
    2. In my opinion, if the United States wants to really deliver a quick global strike, then the re-equipment of submarines with medium-range missiles is required. This will save the number of warheads in a salvo.
    3. On what basis did the author decide that a massive missile launch would not be detected by satellites and radars?
    Now for the protective measures.
    1. Development of a network of atmospheric satellites such as "Owl" equipped with IR means for detecting missile launches. This will avoid the jamming scenario radar SPRN.
    2. The creation of unmanned submarine hunters for submarines. This will eliminate the hidden penetration of enemy submarines to the northern border.
    3. Equipping mine launchers with active protection systems. Not necessarily but as a measure of deterrence.
    4. Development of ballistic missiles for air launch, and equipping them with strategic bombers PAK DA. I consider this complex protected at the level of submarines. It can escape from a nuclear strike, there is no threat of saboteurs, does not depend on the weather, quick preparations for launch, no need to lift the container, due to the flight altitude the missile can be smaller or carry a greater load. All this is true when the bomber is on combat duty of course.
    5. Replacement of all warheads on missiles for maneuvering. This will reduce the US missile defense factor. It has a deterrent function.
    Railway and soil complexes, I consider weakly protected against modern sabotage actions. They are easy to destroy with the help of special modifications of the long-range ATGM.
    1. 0
      23 March 2017 00: 45
      Blalabla. Tales and not a single real fact.
  34. +2
    23 March 2017 22: 59
    The situation is really very dangerous and the author, even if not in all his statements, is absolutely right. First of all, the US has long been manufacturing cruise missiles. And despite the fact that we have the most advanced air defense and missile defense systems in the world, we can simply not withstand the blow of several thousand cruise missiles. Deep separation of missile defense is needed. The author is also right that we must urgently look for ways to search and detect strategic US nuclear submarines. Some, a little time we have. Apparently the United States needs to produce a sufficient number of hypersonic missiles. Therefore, in addition to the mining measures proposed by the author, it is necessary to focus on the large-scale production of cruise missiles. Our weakened economy will not be able to withstand the multilateral arms race, but we can still become the leader in cruise missiles. It is quite possible to equip these missiles with tactical nuclear weapons, even very small nuclear weapons. Moreover, anything can become a platform for these missiles, even container ships or barges on rivers or in ports. I do not presume to say that this will create a threat to the main aggressor, but the whole of Europe may be under the gun and for our NATO forces in Europe, our cruise missiles can become strategic weapons. And the main aggressor may face the prospect of losing the entire European continent. In addition, you can try to seize control of the North Atlantic with diesel submarines and medium cruisers, which also must be armed with cruise missiles. NATO's missile defense areas can also be hit with tactical nuclear weapons. In general, the overall strategy is the accelerated transfer of strategic forces to mobile platforms: special trains, submarines and strategic aviation. Moreover, it can be argued that it is necessary to revive the production of not only TU-160, which are expensive, but also not to refuse to produce modernized TU-95. The task is simply to fly over the territory of our country, to be in motion. At the right time, they will strike. And most importantly: to free oneself from the influence of the West in the financial sphere and never conduct any negotiations on nuclear disarmament. On the contrary, so far it is possible to increase stealthily. Improve and chemical weapons. The argument is simple for our leadership - at the borders - 28 aggressive countries.

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