Why does the West not understand how a Russian soldier fights? Notes on the note

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How much has already been written about Russia and Russian. I recently heard an interesting statement from an American MMA fighter. "Russia is a country of warriors." Honestly, I took it at first as a compliment to our athletes. And only then I understood. No, an American really treats Russians (and this concept for him includes all who live in our country) as fighters, as warriors.

Why does the West not understand how a Russian soldier fights? Notes on the note




And I received confirmation of this thought from one western publication. Today, thanks to the capabilities of the Internet, one can read, more precisely view, publish in any country of the world. View? Just because, no matter how much you want to be fluent in foreign languages, you have to use a translator. What is automatic translation, most readers already know from personal experience. Just then it is necessary to translate once again from Russian into Russian.

Readers will remember a series of articles in our media after the departure of the Navy ships from the Mediterranean. What we just read then! And about some technical overlays on "Admiral Kuznetsov". And about the failures of flights of aircraft. And, conversely, about the heroism of our pilots and sailors. On the implementation of complex military-political tasks. About examples of courage and perseverance of our soldiers and officers.

The only topic that our liberal politicians often tried to raise, but which did not completely touch the hearts of readers, is the topic of "poor old men and orphans who were left without means of livelihood." "The funds that Russia spent on Syria could be spent on retirement benefits." Remember? Even the Minister of Defense was forced to somehow speak out in the spirit that the Ministry does not exceed the limit of funds allocated for defense by the budget. Therefore, the topic in the Russian media "has fallen out" and has never been raised.

Indeed, it is strange for a country in which, even in the Stalin era, when there were no businessmen and honestly earned money, there were people who bought for their own savings Tanks, airplanes and other military equipment. The main thing is victory. The main thing is to survive and not give the homeland to the enemy. No matter what kind of faith you are, what language you speak at home, are you blond or brunette, narrow-eyed or long-nosed. Nothing matters when the enemy is at the gates of your house.

And here is the article of a Western correspondent. An article about our operation in Syria. But it’s from there. Passing by was just beyond my strength. It is interesting to see the difference. Some excerpts, interesting precisely because of the difference of views on the war, I will give in the form of quotes.

The article is called "The true price of the Syrian campaign for Russia" (The real cost of Russia).

"Russia has been involved in the Syrian conflict since September 2015 of the year. Six months later, Vladimir Putin said that military operations had cost the Ministry of Defense 483 million dollars."

“Russian analysts claim that the operation with the participation of Admiral Kuznetsov cost 170 million dollars, and this amount is less than the price of two fifth-generation F-35 American fighter jets.”


This is the essence of war for a Westerner. How much is? It does not matter everything else. War is the same investment as any business. I have invested my money, which means that I have the right to demand a report from the military on dividends. Otherwise, what is a profitable business?

It is striking how meticulously calculated all the actions of the Russian army. This is what transparent business accounting means! With the participation of "Admiral Kuznetsov" 420 combat missions were made. Of these, 117 is nightly! Destroyed 1 252 targets ...

Do you think that this interesting in this article ends? Not. This is only the beginning of the analysis. In business, especially for its shareholders, it is important to clearly understand where and what money is spent on. As "capital increased".

"... these investments more than justified militarily. Moscow and Damascus signed an agreement on a 49-year lease on the Syrian port of Tartus with the right to deploy forces fleet. The port will be modernized and will be able to accept 11 military vessels at the same time - so the Russian fleet will have its own base in the Mediterranean. "

"In the future, ships of the predominantly Black Sea Fleet will arrive in Tartus and will form, according to the Ministry of Defense of Russia, a permanent operational connection of the Navy in the Mediterranean. Such a development was not a surprise for anyone, since the resumption of the Russian military presence in this region was one of the main provisions RF Marine Doctrine 2015 of the Year. "


The author does not even try to find the words. Nothing personal. Russian money properly invested in Syria, gave here such an income. And this income far exceeds the profitability of Western investments.

True, in fairness it should be noted that the conclusions of the author are quite logical. And, in my opinion, absolutely true. With the exception of the "western skate" about human rights. But here I will not even argue. We are accustomed to the fact that everything, whatever Russia does on its own, there is always a violation of these very rights. Russians are not even laughing. Just take it for granted. The dog barks, the wind blows ...

"At present, Russia has secured the right to use a strategically important naval base, thereby depriving NATO of its former capabilities in the Eastern Mediterranean. Moscow is pursuing a pragmatic policy, supporting the" legitimate "government, while bravely combating terrorism, despite how the change of regime and respect for human rights correlate. And all this finds a positive response from a number of countries in the Middle East. "

And the last words of the article are a masterpiece. "This is a good payback for military costs of less than 1 billion dollars." This is the whole western man. More precisely, the Western way of thinking. Russian business worked better than ours.

Americans, who are all the wars of the last century, and indeed all the wars that have been fought over the period of their country's existence, are perceived "from the side," you can understand. They do not know what real war is. They know the Hollywood War. A war where only enemies die, and "ours" always win. Therefore, they probably believe that war is just one of the types of business.

Europeans, no matter how they today praised their military exploits during the Second World War, they hand over cities and raise their hands at the first danger. Why fight if the enemy has more tanks? Or airplanes? Why didn't blockade Leningrad surrender? Why is Stalingrad and many other cities completely destroyed? Better to keep what you have. It is better to give up and wait for the invader himself to leave your edges.

Or Russians will chase him away.

Good or bad, not for me to judge. But the fact that we are not exactly them is clear to me. And God forbid us to become the same.

And people with such convictions will never be able to defeat us. I remember an old joke about the power of the Russian and German armies. The Germans are winning because of congenital pedantry, the Russians because of congenital "horniness". We are able to "rest against a horn" so that even iron bursts on the resistance of a simple soldier. And we do not rest in order to earn. We want to win, and we win.

Probably, the understanding of the fact that the Russians do not consider it when they fight, inspires respect, and more often it is the fear of all these "common people" and "fighters for the rights of everyone and everything." And rightly inspires. The West wants to see the face of the Russian Bear ... They would have gone to the zoo. It is only in fairy tales a bear is a kind and cute bastard. In life, the bear beast is fearless and strong.

And he has no face. As such. There is a terrible, with huge fangs, muzzle. And even claws, some more knives. And if you cause a strong irritation in a bear, then you can really see this face ...
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  1. +84
    14 March 2017 06: 26
    Just a word: is there a precedent for anyone, in general, any liberal, to spend any money — even if the cost of Kuznetsov’s sea hike — on old men and orphans? am

    For some reason, I only remember yelling "did not fit into the market","let 20 millions die" and so on. Liberast is always ready not to spend money on sea trips - but only with the condition to put it in your personal pocket! am
    1. +4
      14 March 2017 07: 54
      And what have the liberals to do with it. It's about our power.
      1. +22
        14 March 2017 09: 00
        Quote: Kenneth
        And what have the liberals to do with it. It's about our power.


        ABOUT YOUR Kenneth Power, About Your
        1. +2
          14 March 2017 09: 05
          This power bends you in the same way
      2. Alf
        0
        14 March 2017 18: 56
        Quote: Kenneth
        And what have the liberals to do with it. It's about our power.

        And who is our power composed of?
      3. 0
        14 March 2017 22: 19
        Quote: Kenneth
        And what have the liberals to do with it. It's about our power.



        no offense - 1000000
    2. +63
      14 March 2017 10: 25
      For lovers squeal about spending the budget on military and other expenses.
      1. +18
        14 March 2017 11: 53
        And where on this list are the salaries of officials and the oligarchs' earnings abroad?
        1. +27
          14 March 2017 14: 42
          Quote: murriou
          And where on this list are the salaries of officials and the oligarchs' earnings abroad?

          This is another list, another picture, and there, opposite the stolen, exported funds, there should be a column in which the indicated kindergartens, highways, missile carriers ...

          And even better with the addition - the funds are returned ..., they are built on them: so many missile carriers, so many highways, so many trains, etc.
          1. +13
            14 March 2017 14: 43
            Quote: Dali
            And even better with the addition - the funds have been returned ..., they are built on them: so many missile carriers, so many highways, so many trains

            I agree completely! But this requires a completely different power.
            1. +16
              15 March 2017 12: 34
              Quote: murriou
              I agree completely! But this requires a completely different power.

              Do not compose. This requires a different social system. And under capitalism, all power is the same. Our suits us. And about returning stolen goods, these are all the wet dreams of a lonely bachelor. You have to work and think with your head.
            2. +4
              15 March 2017 23: 05
              Quote: murriou
              But this requires a completely different power.

              Yes, you need to ride, definitely.
        2. +2
          14 March 2017 17: 03
          This mystery is great. Not a word about the "saint".
        3. +4
          16 March 2017 17: 51
          And where on this list are the salaries of officials and the oligarchs' earnings abroad?

          And when the second wife brings you, you ask her, "Where are the flies?"
        4. +1
          20 March 2017 20: 54
          By the way, in 2015, the Accounts Chamber alone returned 11 billion to the treasury. More than a thousand trains "Swallow".
      2. +1
        14 March 2017 14: 35
        Quote: Wend
        For lovers squeal about spending the budget on military and other expenses.


        It is necessary to correct the picture a little, because if there is no part of the picture where the trains, highways, missile carriers, then there will already be: - 4077rub.
        1. +8
          14 March 2017 15: 16
          But it’s strange for me to read about which in the West are all mercantile, based on an analytical article. Well, how else to convey information about the war to the layman (with both western and ours)? Well, he would write, "Russia threw tons of bombs on the 100 barmaley" so what? A simple person is not able to imagine "100 tons of bombs", but the phrase "having spent 11 million dollars" is enough. “Wow, this is 2 at home like Tom Cruise, these Russians are really cool, if they soak the bearded” - that’s what the average American thinks and will be right.
          1. +8
            14 March 2017 15: 28
            Quote: Maksus
            A simple person is not able to imagine "100 tons of bombs"

            Just in Russia they are able to imagine ...

            Quote: Maksus
            But it’s strange for me to read about which in the West are all mercantile, based on an analytical article. Well, how else to convey information about the war to the layman (with both western and ours)? Well, he would write, "Russia threw tons of bombs on the 100 barmaley" so what? A simple person is not able to imagine "100 tons of bombs", but the phrase "having spent 11 million dollars" is enough. “Wow, this is 2 at home like Tom Cruise, these Russians are really cool, if they soak the bearded” - that’s what the average American thinks and will be right.

            Just in the article, it’s not about this "wow ... 11 lyamov ... cool", but that many so-called citizens in the West only understand
            "This is a good payback for military spending less than $ 1 billion "
            and that war for them, this is primarily an opportunity to earn ...
            1. +3
              14 March 2017 18: 54
              Well, yes, we are fighting for the sake of ideals. Our military-industrial complex produces weapons out of enthusiasm. That military salaries raised at times.
              1. +4
                16 March 2017 01: 26
                Quote: Maksus
                But it’s strange for me to read about which in the West are all mercantile, based on an analytical article. Well, how else to convey information about the war to the layman (with both western and ours)? Well, he would have written, "Russia threw 100 tons of bombs on barmaleys," so what? A simple person is not able to imagine "100 tons of bombs", but the phrase "having spent 11 million dollars" is enough. “Wow, these are 2 houses like that of Tom Cruise, these Russians are really cool, since they’re soaking the bearded” - that’s what the average American thinks and will be right ..

                Well, yes, we are fighting for the sake of ideals. Our military-industrial complex produces weapons out of enthusiasm. That military salaries raised at times.

                Congratulations!! you have already fully mastered the Western model of worldview)))
                1. 0
                  16 March 2017 09: 12
                  Yes, at least get greeted) I hope everything is fine and you are a patriot of Russia with an original Russian soul!
                  1. +3
                    16 March 2017 16: 22
                    Quote: Maksus
                    I hope everything is fine

                    CPSB, everything is normal. how warm, let Gd so that it doesn’t get worse))) I hope you too ... there are no insurmountable difficulties in your life ...
                    you are a patriot of Russia with an original Russian soul!

                    you probably didn’t pay attention to the flag ... I haven’t been living in Russia for a long time, but I can say that the successes of Russia are heartily pleasing and the failures upset. this is hardly enough to consider himself a patriot in full, but ...
                    about the original Russian soul .... I grew up in Russia (in Soviet Russia to be exact) and on Russian spiritual values ​​(sorry for the pathos))) so for sure .... it didn’t go away for me)))))
                    1. 0
                      17 March 2017 20: 50
                      Quote: Arameev
                      Quote: Maksus
                      I hope everything is fine

                      CPSB, everything is normal. how warm, let Gd so that it doesn’t get worse))) I hope you too ... there are no insurmountable difficulties in your life ...
                      you are a patriot of Russia with an original Russian soul!

                      you probably didn’t pay attention to the flag ... I haven’t been living in Russia for a long time, but I can say that the successes of Russia are heartily pleasing and the failures upset. this is hardly enough to consider himself a patriot in full, but ...
                      about the original Russian soul .... I grew up in Russia (in Soviet Russia to be exact) and on Russian spiritual values ​​(sorry for the pathos))) so for sure .... it didn’t go away for me)))))

                      You respected, as you do not strive for, the mentality you have is RUSSIAN. Change cities to countries, in this Odessa proverb: Maybe it’s Vi in Kiev groys a dick, and in Odessa - a barely pot.
                      1. +1
                        19 March 2017 04: 36
                        Quote: Berkut752
                        []
                        You respected, as you do not strive for, the mentality you have is RUSSIAN. Change cities to countries, in this Odessa proverb: Maybe it’s Vi in Kiev groys a dick, and in Odessa - a barely pot.

                        yes, I somehow ... and I’m not against it even once))) as for "in Odessa - barely poets" ... I can’t say with confidence about how people from the USSR / Russia are perceived in other countries, but Israel ... ha! this is far from what it was 20 years ago. poets-this is not to the Russian-speaking Israelis, believe me))))
                  2. +7
                    16 March 2017 16: 51
                    Quote: Maksus
                    But it’s strange for me to read about which in the West are all mercantile ...
                    ... then we fight for ideals

                    according to sabzh ... without delving into philosophical wilds, I want to say that in the perception of war by Western man and Russian, the difference is still fundamental. in the perception of Russian war, by and large, is the defense of the homeland. in the perception of the Westerner - this is a way to snatch something somewhere. with impunity to show off ... somehow so IMHO.
                    1. +1
                      16 March 2017 22: 59
                      Quote: Arameev
                      according to sabzh ... without delving into philosophical wilds, I want to say that in the perception of war by Western man and Russian, the difference is still fundamental. in the perception of Russian war, by and large, is the defense of the homeland. in the perception of the Westerner - this is a way to snatch something somewhere. pokuratsya with impunity... somehow IMHO.

                      + 1000 %

                      And, of course, I agree, the "flag" does not really matter ...
                  3. +1
                    16 March 2017 23: 11
                    Quote: Maksus
                    Yes, at least get greeted) I hope everything is fine and you are a patriot of Russia with an original Russian soul!

                    That's what happens, Mr. Marcus ... A man with the Russian flag, but with the soul of a liberal Westerner, and a man with the Israeli flag, and with the soul of the Russian ...

                    shl
                    Although you seem to be a meager on the site ... a former horse? Grantoed? Ideological liberalist? ... From blinnn ... how many types of you are different ... ёёёёёёёёёё
                    1. 0
                      17 March 2017 22: 13
                      Yes, the former, acting. Let’s do something else in Arizona to write a training manual. And I'm sorry, you walk in bast shoes and do not know how to read ...
                      1. 0
                        19 March 2017 00: 57
                        ... Let’s do something else in Arizona to write a training manual.

                        Pachymu write to Aryzon a metaladic ... but do they write to SIA ne? laughing
                        ............
                        There is nothing to blame on the mirror, since the face is crooked ... lol

                        shl
                        There is nothing more to say ... you think you can bump at least someone with your bast shoes lol ...
                        But reading is your fantasies ... and the hotel wants to crawl out of you: in Russia, because of ... you already forgot how to read ...
              2. +1
                16 March 2017 23: 05
                Quote: Maksus
                Well, yes, we are fighting for the sake of ideals. Our military-industrial complex produces weapons out of enthusiasm. That military salaries raised at times.

                Firstly, the Russian army does not interfere with one another ...
                Secondly, at the expense of the military-industrial complex, capitalism leaves its mark ... tell me, who ever did something on naked enthusiasm like eating holy air ... but without bucks, no bucks will help in the end ...
      3. +2
        14 March 2017 16: 20
        For lovers squeal about spending the budget on military and other expenses.


        Well, if the Sochi Olympics cost the people 1,5 trillion. rubles.
        1. +4
          14 March 2017 19: 19
          Quote: krops777
          For lovers squeal about spending the budget on military and other expenses.

          Well, if the Sochi Olympics cost the people 1,5 trillion. rubles.


          Fuck she needed ...
        2. +2
          15 March 2017 12: 27
          Did you calculate it yourself, or who suggested it?
          1. +2
            16 March 2017 09: 28
            Quote: Docent1984
            Did you calculate it yourself, or who suggested it?

            You can count yourself or squeal further.
            1. 0
              16 March 2017 23: 16
              Quote: Wend
              You can count yourself or squeal further.

              So calculate the income-expense, show us the power of your great mind ...

              shl
              In the meantime, a nagging and screeching is heard from you ...
              1. 0
                17 March 2017 10: 09
                Quote: Dali
                Quote: Wend
                You can count yourself or squeal further.

                So calculate the income-expense, show us the power of your great mind ...
                shl
                In the meantime, a nagging and screeching is heard from you ...

                What's the point of this? You do not see my mind now, then after the demonstration of dirt from you will be even more. He who wants to see will see, he who does not want to, at least put his nose under his nose. won't notice. laughing
            2. +1
              16 March 2017 23: 23
              Quote: Wend
              You can count yourself or squeal further.

              In short, if you are so smart, it would be better to suggest an effective way to stop the export of capital from Russia, how to stop the theft of budgets ... otherwise you don’t like that you spent the money in Russia ...
              1. +1
                17 March 2017 10: 06
                Quote: Dali
                Quote: Wend
                You can count yourself or squeal further.

                In short, if you are so smart, it would be better to suggest an effective way to stop the export of capital from Russia, how to stop the theft of budgets ... otherwise you don’t like that you spent the money in Russia ...

                I do not like? Yes, on the contrary, I am pleased that we are creating both military equipment and various programs are being implemented. Although maybe this question was addressed not to me. And still I will answer him. It is necessary to tighten the responsibility of officials. To answer not only with freedom, but with property and receive a complete ban on further work in administrations of any kind, even village ones.
                1. +2
                  17 March 2017 22: 31
                  Quote: Wend
                  Although maybe this question was addressed not to me. And still I will answer him. It is necessary to tighten the responsibility of officials. To answer not only with freedom, but with property and receive a complete ban on further work in administrations of any kind, even village ones.

                  Ndass ... on the one hand half measures, and on the other the rigidity leading to additional costs ...

                  And it would be necessary, a complete ban on the occupation of any leadership position, state, private., Societies. or whatever ..., a complete prohibition of participation in any capital in any form, a full (or maximum - it is clear what it means) return of funds, property, etc. ... it’s not hidden in any hole (otherwise the order will be rewritten to the wives) ...

                  And planting, in certain cases, of course it is necessary ... and so, it’s necessary to bring this subject to the right place, feed, drink, dress, protect, and at the same time whether it will be possible to use it at least somehow efficiently, well, at least to pay for its contents. .. this is a question.

                  I do not like? Yes, on the contrary, I am pleased that we are creating both military equipment and various programs are being implemented. Although maybe this question was addressed not to me.

                  It’s addressed to you, because you’re not happy that the Olympics in Russia were held, that you spent a certain amount of money ...

                  Because I think that the Olympiad has brought great benefits to Russia, and your discontent looks more like the discontent of the liberals, who also say that you can build something in the tank’s place ...

                  Therefore, I think that the Olympics in Sochi is also the same Tank, on the defense of Russia ...
                  1. 0
                    20 March 2017 09: 49
                    Quote: Dali

                    I do not like? Yes, on the contrary, I am pleased that we are creating both military equipment and various programs are being implemented. Although maybe this question was addressed not to me.

                    It’s addressed to you, because you’re not happy that the Olympics in Russia were held, that you spent a certain amount of money ...
                    Because I think that the Olympiad has brought great benefits to Russia, and your discontent looks more like the discontent of the liberals, who also say that you can build something in the tank’s place ...
                    Therefore, I think that the Olympics in Sochi is also the same Tank, on the defense of Russia ...

                    That you kindly beguiled. I did not write anything about the Olympics.
      4. +2
        15 March 2017 21: 02
        And if (700 rubles / 2,8 rubles) x 320 = 80000 families would receive social housing. And now, how many families will not receive social housing because of the costs of the FIFA World Cup, or will they all be beaten there?
        1. +4
          16 March 2017 19: 54
          and if you don’t do this, it will be much worse ... you’ll be the first to squeal that there is nothing in the oooh rashka and they can’t do anything ... and then you care for the people ... balabol
    3. +1
      17 March 2017 20: 42
      Quote: Gormengast
      Just a word: is there a precedent for anyone, in general, any liberal, to spend any money — even if the cost of Kuznetsov’s sea hike — on old men and orphans? am
      For some reason, I only remember yelling "did not fit into the market","let 20 millions die" and so on. Liberast is always ready not to spend money on sea trips - but only with the condition to put it in your personal pocket! am

      Through the mouth of Chubais, a monstrous thing: “If 30 million people do not fit into the market - this is their misfortune”
  2. +26
    14 March 2017 06: 28
    And one warrior in the field, if he is tailored in Russian!
    1. +22
      14 March 2017 08: 28
      "Russia is a country of warriors"
      Yes, we have everything sharpened for this case ...
      1. +5
        14 March 2017 11: 49
        War is the same investment as any business.

        Who would argue, one just has to look at the military budgets of some countries.
      2. +1
        14 March 2017 19: 04
        lozh themselves lovers gathered to praise themselves
      3. PPD
        +4
        15 March 2017 10: 43
        Read the work of Denis Davydov (yeah the very same) "Did frost kill the French army"
        Yes, and the Germans were waiting for frost, the technology stopped skidding.
        Well, about warrior warrior, wise command is also needed. Remember the losses in the Great Patriotic War, here and among them ... Asafiev recalled about hat-making, recalled, do not be too lazy to find, instructive. Where those with such a mood in the war sailed those who had similar sentiments.
  3. +9
    14 March 2017 06: 58
    The human rights are the following (if we remove the husk and verbiage): egoism, egocentrism, hedonism.

    This may be good for an individual individual (especially if he has been brought up since childhood), but very bad for conditions of war, military confrontation, terrorism, aggression. am

    This is not the Russian army (personnel motivation) that has increased exponentially, but all the others - have decomposed and weakened, including the Most Important Warriors, which are exceptional.
  4. +71
    14 March 2017 07: 33
    Here is a photo that says it all without words:
    1. +25
      14 March 2017 08: 00
      Well, three magic words, there, nevertheless, were ...
    2. raf
      +23
      14 March 2017 08: 20
      They say that one of the Western correspondents wrote about this incident: It did not take three hundred (meaning the Spartans), one was enough!
    3. +31
      14 March 2017 08: 59
      And this is just ONE "BATTLE BURYAT" !!!
  5. +4
    14 March 2017 07: 38
    Maybe it’s right. All the same, the war is an expensive "pleasure" and the money account love. After all, it is the military expenditures of the USSR, the so-called assistance to socialist countries negatively affected the country's economy.
    1. +49
      14 March 2017 07: 45
      Nonsense. Yes, military spending is "a huge stomach ulcer of the state," as Bismarck said. But it was never fatal. But the betrayal of the leaders, yes. An example not only of the USSR, but also closer to Ukraine, perfectly proves this.
      1. +11
        14 March 2017 09: 14
        Quote: domokl
        Nonsense. Yes, military spending is "a huge stomach ulcer of the state," as Bismarck said. But it was never fatal. But the betrayal of the leaders, yes. An example not only of the USSR, but also closer to Ukraine, perfectly proves this.


        The parasitic tip of the villains sucking resources from the country. And in Ukraine, and Russia and the late USSR
        1. +3
          14 March 2017 09: 34
          I completely agree, only it needs to be more specific: the Judezhida top.
        2. +13
          14 March 2017 12: 49
          The top is the top, and the country itself was surrendered by the people who believed in "sausage happiness" and the friendship of peoples. That is what we saw in the USSR and Ukraine.
          The top that does not meet the aspirations of the people - flies to hell, instead come those who can move the country.
          And when the top wants only to steal and this is supported by the people, then Moscow-91 and Ukraine-14 occur.
          1. +3
            14 March 2017 19: 24
            Quote: INTA_VEGA
            The top is the top, and the country itself was surrendered by the people who believed in "sausage happiness" and the friendship of peoples. That is what we saw in the USSR and Ukraine.
            The top that does not meet the aspirations of the people - flies to hell, instead come those who can move the country.
            And when the top wants only to steal and this is supported by the people, then Moscow-91 and Ukraine-14 occur.


            Did the people themselves surrender?
            The people voted to preserve the USSR
            1. +5
              15 March 2017 09: 45
              The people of the RSFSR ... and did anyone vote against the "sausage" and the "open market"? ...
              Everyone gasped only at 98, when it really pushed - and before that there were continuous squeals about democracy, American legs, alcohol in cans and "now we will privatize everything, put the vouchers in the MMM and heal."
    2. +11
      14 March 2017 10: 14
      Yeah, but she definitely didn’t fall apart from this. There were times worse, but held on. Passed it. Handed over.
    3. +14
      14 March 2017 11: 39
      Thatcher Margaret: "
      “The Soviet Union is a country that posed a serious threat to the Western world. I am not talking about a military threat. She was not in essence. Our countries are quite well armed, including nuclear weapons.

      I mean the economic threat. Thanks to a planned policy and a peculiar combination of moral and material incentives, the Soviet Union managed to achieve high economic indicators. The percentage growth in gross national product was about two times higher than in our countries. If we take into account the enormous natural resources of the USSR, then with the rational management of the economy the Soviet Union had very real opportunities to oust us from world markets.

      Therefore, we have always taken actions aimed at weakening the economy of the Soviet Union and creating internal difficulties for it. "
      http://pikabu.ru/story/margaret_tyetcher_pro_razv
      al_sssr_1315404
    4. +8
      14 March 2017 12: 15
      Quote: Pecheneg
      After all, it is the military expenditures of the USSR, the so-called assistance to socialist countries negatively affected the country's economy.

      Dear Pecheneg. I suspect that your personal impressions of that economy are similar in nature to your personal impressions of the assassination of Svyatoslav by the Pechenegs. I allow myself to give examples from the life that, in your opinion, was ruined by military spending. In the city of Rostov-on-Don on the separation lawn of Aksaysky (now the 40th anniversary of the Victory) prospectus, we observe a strange group of women with large measurements and in white robes standing in the "G" pose. Interested in. It turned out to be employees of either a kindergarten or a restaurant, using table knives trying to fulfill the norm for hay delivery established by the CPSU district committee. The hay receiving point from the enterprises of the Proletarsky district was where Metro is now above the exit to the Aksaysky bridge. For 20 tons of hay, a 1000-ton barge platform was driven into Obukhovka; I participated in loading it, as a young communist, (1979). In 1977, he was sent to fulfill the order of the city committee of the CPSU to Rostselmash as a cutter of the 2nd category in the KRC. For a month I got THREE of my engineering averages there. In 1979 he repeated this business trip for a month on demobilization, earned on a coat, a raincoat and imported shoes. About the reconstruction of the DSK in the Western industrial zone, I can only say that the men drove the pipe layer for vodka to Chaltyr in a straight line. A car impulse roaming the steppes (i.e. the market)? Do you think that with such an organization, the economy still needs to be ruined somehow?
      1. +4
        14 March 2017 18: 46
        Beautiful fable.
      2. +1
        15 March 2017 00: 03
        another bakery myth
    5. +4
      15 March 2017 22: 01
      Pecheneg, not the military spending of the USSR, and not helping the socialist countries negatively affected the country's economy. And the lack of a normal, adequate political system! There was stagnation in all branches of government. People clasped their hands and feet for their seats, for power! There was no movement of leading cadres in the country's governance system! Only the most vile, dodgy moved up the career ladder! Those that could fit anywhere without soap! For all the horrors of the Stalinist system, under Stalin there was a rotation of personnel, and after it, by 1969, everything had calmed down. Thanks to this, such a thing could come to power ................. like Gorbachev. And now, unfortunately, the same phenomena are observed in power structures! You have the flag of Kazakhstan. I gave 45 years to Kazakhstan. Since what year has Nursultan Abishevich been leading Kazakhstan? I can remind you officially from June 22, 1989. And in fact, since 1984, when he became Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Kazakh SSR. About the same thing in Russia. And that's bad. I am not saying that Nazarbayev or Putin is a bad Elbasy. But neither the first nor the second do anything to ensure that an adequate political system has been built in our countries! There are no parties, no people of equal scale to them! Only a regime of personal power! And what will happen to our countries after them? Do you remember 2030? Where are all these promises? And what are they worth today? Oh yes! Today is not yet 2030! And war is really an expensive pleasure! And the money really love the account! And I like how our operation in Syria goes! It would be better, less of our gouging, so that there would be even less losses, but we are fighting so well! I hope that at the last moment we do not profound our victory!
  6. +13
    14 March 2017 07: 47
    Here's another thing: as we look into the eyes of our great-grandfathers when we ourselves get together! They were not afraid, they did not raise their hands and we have no right!
    1. +11
      14 March 2017 10: 17
      I agree with you. But we chopped and this is a fact. And wars are now unfortunately much more cunning and inconspicuous. They have no front, the enemy is not visible. The enemy is often internal and more terrible than the external. Because he is in power and with the external at the same time. Therefore (as with the collapse of the Soviet Socialist Republic) we can easily lose and do not even have to raise our hands. Just wake up in another country or without a country. If we get lucky.
      1. +6
        14 March 2017 13: 00
        Quote: unwillingly
        But we chopped and this is a fact.

        This is a fact for you.
        Conflicts with the participation of the Russian Federation over the past decade show that everything is “ok” with the country. The same situation with domestic politics - the lack of a clear and adequate opposition indicates a high consolidation of society.
        Quote: unwillingly
        Because he is in power and with the external at the same time.

        The foreign policy of the Russian Federation speaks directly to the opposite. I wonder what is the "top" along with the enemies ??
        The fact that Chubaisych is not sitting? So he, excuse me, the founding father of our modern state and "keeps" all the compromising, but stronger ties comrade Beria. Yes and Direct the wrecking from him is not even visible. And what steals ... tyk it is in all countries and under all regimes. The main thing is that the development of the country does not interfere.
        But if it interferes or not, it will be visible only after 3-4 years, whether we can get out of the stagnation pit.
        1. Alf
          +6
          14 March 2017 19: 04
          Quote: INTA_VEGA
          The foreign policy of the Russian Federation speaks directly to the opposite. I wonder what is the "top" along with the enemies ??

          In foreign policy, the elite does not protect us and you, but our "hunting grounds."
          Quote: INTA_VEGA
          But if it interferes or not, it will be visible only after 3-4 years, whether we can get out of the stagnation pit.

          And why
          Quote: INTA_VEGA
          only after 3-4 years
          and not in 10-20-100 years? What prevented the country from falling into this hole at all?
          Quote: INTA_VEGA
          And even direct wrecking from him is not even visible.

          And what should the pest and saboteur scream at all angles about what he has done, is doing and is going to do?
          1. +2
            15 March 2017 10: 14
            Quote: Alf
            In foreign policy, the elite does not protect us and you, but our "hunting grounds."

            Like any other power. Do you imagine the mechanism of "protecting national interests" somehow differently?
            The question is only in balance. For example, when choosing "Crimea", or "Eat Dutch cheeses for a couple of years" - the answer is obvious to me.
            Quote: Alf
            What prevented the country from falling into this hole at all?

            Do you have that watered-economy was not at school?
            Crises are cyclical fluctuations in economic activity, characteristic and pronounced for a market economy.
            Quote: Alf
            And why only after 3-4 years

            In the framework of neoclassical synthesis, cycles are interpreted as fluctuations around the long-term trend of economic development.
            If in 3-4 years we do not crawl up, then the "long" trend will slide into a minus value.

            And what prevents the country from developing ... eh, if only someone could take everything into account and give a universal answer. Think “Valdai” all sorts of just collect.
            In general, this is a reason for a separate article, but in short, then “systemic errors of power,” “changing the global supply-demand structure,” “changing the world economic system,” etc. Better ask a couple of economists from different schools.
            Quote: Alf
            And what should the pest and saboteur scream at all angles about what he has done, is doing and is going to do?

            Of course not. But why does this suddenly apply to Chubais?
            According to the situation that I can see, Comrade CH is the main “driver” between the oligarchs and the authorities (if you see it more clearly, the “dark cardinal”, “the godfather”, etc.). I sincerely do not understand why suddenly a person of such a level and affluence should be the enemy of Russia. He is rather a class enemy, if you like, but in general for the country ...

            But didn’t you think that problems in the economy could be due to the fact that Chubais was “pushed aside” and power-taking was taken by state security officials who did not understand Nichrome in a market economy?
  7. +2
    14 March 2017 07: 49
    And people with such convictions will never be able to defeat us. I remember an old joke about the power of the Russian and German armies. The Germans are winning because of congenital pedantry, the Russians because of congenital "horniness". We are able to "rest against a horn" so that even iron bursts on the resistance of a simple soldier. And we do not rest in order to earn. We want to win, and we win.


    I absolutely agree.
    But pedantry must also be added to horniness.
  8. +3
    14 March 2017 07: 55
    This is the essence of war for a Westerner. How much is? It does not matter everything else. War is the same investment as any business. I have invested my money, which means that I have the right to demand a report from the military on dividends. Otherwise, what is a profitable business?
    I do not quite understand the author’s surprise. This is the usual logic of nations of merchants, which all Western countries have become. Pay attention to who is the most “cocky” among them - the countries of the former socialist bloc — that is, those in which “merchandising” is only just taking root, and that they already know how to value their “militancy” in a “hard coin”.
  9. +4
    14 March 2017 08: 17
    War is always primarily a matter of resources. The Germans did not lose the world wars because they fought worse. Therefore, a reasonable approach to waste of resources is a matter of survival.
    1. +2
      14 March 2017 13: 08
      The article claims the high resource efficiency of our aircraft.
      But it was reasonable to spend this resource on Syria, or not - only time will show (and the chosen analysis method wink ).
      For me, it’s so much better if the army earns dividends for the state than simply rots “in storage”.
    2. +3
      14 March 2017 20: 03
      The Germans did not lose the world wars because they fought worse.

      They probably lost the 2 world wars because they fought better.
  10. +5
    14 March 2017 08: 19
    And let the enemies know everything
    Knows Condoleezza Rice
    Never rabble NATO
    Don't take us
    ... inspired ...
  11. +14
    14 March 2017 08: 24
    Quote: Gormengast
    For some reason, I only remember yelling "did not fit into the market","let 20 millions die" and so on. Liberast is always ready not to spend money on sea trips - but only with the condition to put it in your personal pocket! am

    I agree with you and support. I would like to add from myself. I will not repeat the truth that has already come to frustration, about the prospects of the people who do not want to feed their army or that God is on the side of large battalions. I want to focus specifically on the speculations of our liberal party about the Syrian operation. I well remember Mr. Nadezhdin, who, at the next polit show, lamentedly calculated: "Departure is not a kindergarten built, rocket strike is a school." But for starters, it may be worth recalling how many children's institutions (schools, kindergartens, nurseries) were closed in the 90's and transferred to merchants. Mr. Nadezhdin does not want to talk about this? Instead of calculating the expenses of the Ministry of Defense, can it take the initiative to transfer at least part of these buildings back to their intended purpose? Of course, for free, that is, for nothing. Article and author plus.
  12. +4
    14 March 2017 08: 32
    Quote: Kenneth
    And what have the liberals to do with it. It's about our power.

    And your power is not made up of liberals now?
    1. +2
      14 March 2017 08: 39
      And in your country, Yeltsin and Gaidar rule?
      1. +3
        14 March 2017 09: 09
        Quote: Kenneth
        And in your country, Yeltsin and Gaidar rule?

        Upstairs are ruled by your "God-chosen" brothers
        1. +3
          14 March 2017 09: 12
          Anti-Semitism betrays the brain worse than zombies.
          1. +2
            14 March 2017 09: 22
            Quote: Kenneth
            Anti-Semitism betrays the brain worse than zombies.

            A stupid fixation beats the bladder))
            By the way, my second father-in-law (European Jew) is a golden man, an honest and real communist, not a member of the party. I respected him very much, unlike his daughter. So the charges are not for me
            1. +3
              14 March 2017 10: 14
              Each anti-Semite has one beloved and respected Jew and claims to everyone else.
              1. 0
                16 March 2017 20: 51
                Quote: Kenneth
                Each anti-Semite has one beloved and respected Jew and claims to everyone else.

                Hutspa! Your hutspa in everything ...
            2. +1
              15 March 2017 01: 30
              The head of the Jewish Congress of Jews, Kolomoisky, coordinated the burning of people alive in Odessa ...
          2. +1
            14 March 2017 09: 44
            In the first, not only Jews are called Semites, but also some Arab tribes. And how does it concern me, if not only in the Torah, but even in the Old Testament, their superiority over other people is preached. If not in the subject, better be silent. Watch the documentary: Old Testament - Book of the Beast.
            1. +1
              14 March 2017 10: 13
              The only decent anti-Semite was Shulgin. The rest of the mongrel.
              1. 0
                14 March 2017 19: 29
                Quote: Kenneth
                The only decent anti-Semite was Shulgin. The rest of the mongrel.


                Are you a decent Jew, of course?
            2. 0
              19 March 2017 05: 24
              Quote: Sasha333
              ... how it treats me, if not only in the Torah, but even in the Old Testament, is preached ...

              ))))))))))) and what, should there be a difference between them?))) and more ... about the fact that they "preach" .... to fully understand the essence of any recorded information, it is better all the same, to read the source itself, and not to form an opinion based on the "film")))) IMHO
      2. +4
        14 March 2017 10: 22
        Quote: Kenneth
        And in your country, Yeltsin and Gaidar rule?

        You will be surprised, but YES. You called the land glassy. But all institutions, postulates and rules are absolutely the same. The same Central Bank, the same Ministry of Finance. And, on your shoulder straps, privatization again. Yes, even their comrade-in-arms, symbolic and unsinkable, remained, a rusty bastard Chubais.
        1. 0
          14 March 2017 10: 26
          Chubais was pushed back a long time ago. Who is the liberal in the government and what liberal reforms are being carried out now. And privatization is the last resort to pay for expensive projects.
        2. 0
          14 March 2017 13: 13
          Actually, at the top, two camps have long been competing: liberal-bankers and statist-security officials.
          And Chubais is regularly beaten wherever they can. Gaydarovsku team has long been removed from real leverage.
          1. +1
            15 March 2017 01: 26
            Are you sure? Maybe they just got married?
            1. 0
              15 March 2017 10: 22
              Yes, they were never "truly" divided. But this does not prevent one from competing and shifting the "centers" of power from one people to another.
      3. Alf
        +2
        14 March 2017 19: 06
        Quote: Kenneth
        And in your country, Yeltsin and Gaidar rule?

        Both, thanks to the eggs, died, but their work lives on.
    2. 0
      15 March 2017 23: 18
      And your power is not made up of liberals now?
      Liberals in Russia are in power and Putin is the main one, and what you call liberals is ordinary hired shit - a component of the weapons of hybrid wars.
      But hired shit can be different, sometimes it’s “red” and it’s massively present here - the audience is consistent, the enemies are not asleep, - the benefit of the “non-brothers” is poor and very cheap, the Russian language and realities are known.
  13. +7
    14 March 2017 08: 37
    Our warriors, even the boys, are ready for self-sacrifice this is what is not clear and the collective west is afraid
  14. +17
    14 March 2017 08: 50
    "Russia is a country of warriors." I would like all our men to remember this. It's time to tie with booze, cigarettes, start playing sports. A warrior is not only spirit, but also health. And young people will reach for a good example. Before the hell we still have this iPhone ballast.
    1. +5
      14 March 2017 10: 25
      Quote: vladimirvn
      horseradish we still have this iPhone ballast.

      laughing Are you talking about the brainy narrow-shouldered prime minister?
      1. 0
        15 March 2017 00: 09
        I think dear meant all)
  15. +10
    14 March 2017 09: 06
    Article plus. You can not win relying solely on bookkeeping. An example of our football players: we pay millions and zero on exhaust.
    1. +6
      14 March 2017 09: 35
      Quote: Seraphimamur
      An example of our football players: we pay millions and zero on exhaust.


      Here, recently, I was engaged in paperwork, looking at officials working with the public, the thought came to me: "the wrong people are playing football with us." So, as officials redirect a person to other authorities (like a soccer ball), not a single player can. Maybe at the World Cup, to create a team of officials working with citizens' statements ?!
      1. Alf
        +1
        14 March 2017 19: 08
        Quote: B.T.W.
        Maybe at the World Cup, to create a team of officials working with citizens' statements ?!

        It’s impossible, they’ll sue. Competition, even in sports, must be fair. And in this case, their athletes against our bureaucrats will not even come close.
  16. 0
    14 March 2017 09: 19
    The author has banned everyone .... FOR THE KILLING OF THE BITCH SONS .......... NEFIG WE CAPTURE ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,
  17. +15
    14 March 2017 09: 26
    About accounting and supply in the war ... Here is such an interesting award for the quartermaster of the 1st rank V.I. Superekin
    Member of 5 wars !!! In the Great Patriotic War he was already 60. He refused to leave the front. Despite the fact that he did not participate directly in the battles, for me it is a real Russian Warrior.

    1. +6
      14 March 2017 12: 28
      Quote: Tanya
      He refused to leave the front.

      A rare captain survives to retirement. A rare old man, having survived to retirement, himself leaves the ship.
  18. +1
    14 March 2017 09: 30
    Aurora has already been restored. When will you go to Winter?
    1. +10
      14 March 2017 09: 54
      You seem not to live far from Peter .. Would ride. We looked ... Aurora won’t go to the Hermitage ... Even Lenin didn’t set the capture of museums on the list of priorities belay
      But we do not go according to our will, but in the wake of the “tolerants” who come to us with silly questions and jokes. We see off to the house ... And there ... Let's have a cup of tea and go home ... Wait for the next idiots "to visit".
    2. +9
      14 March 2017 10: 25
      Quote: Vz.58
      Aurora has already been restored. When will you go to Winter?

      We went already. They took it. The same thing twice, not interesting. They also went to Paris. Berlin visited a couple of times. All the capitals, more or less interesting Euros passed. But in Washington and New York have not yet been. Fix it.
      1. 0
        14 March 2017 10: 29
        London forgotten. To scandinavia. Belgium Holland. South of Europe. For your aggressiveness, there are still places on our continent.
        1. +2
          14 March 2017 11: 02
          Soviet tanks are imprisoned for a breakthrough, and not for defense. And who is the aggressor, if you show a medal for New York? And use American symbols, Raising the flag over Iwima and the silhouettes of the F-16.
          1. +3
            14 March 2017 14: 33
            Quote: Vz.58
            Soviet tanks are imprisoned for a breakthrough, and not for defense. And who is the aggressor, if you show a medal for New York? And use American symbols, Raising the flag over Iwima and the silhouettes of the F-16.

            Everything is correct on the sign. The Americans themselves will demolish their political elite and hoist the banner of victory over the ambitions of liberalism. After that, they will become a normal country and will begin to regain the lost authority of the United States. And at the expense of tanks, you are wrong. Tanks on the sea do not go and drag across the Atlantic makes no sense. There are other, more convincing "arguments" for this.
            1. 0
              14 March 2017 15: 35
              Well otmazyvatsya. Offset
        2. +2
          14 March 2017 11: 42
          On the grounds of aggressiveness ..
          And the answer is western. . insanity .. "the Minister of Defense of Belarus, Lieutenant General A. Ravkov, has already said:" Increasing funds for defense, building up funds that are intended for war, in the territory of neighboring states causes certain negative emotions and encourages the steps necessary to minimize the potential consequences. ”

          To this end, in September this year, a strategic exercise “West-2017” will be organized with Russia, which will take place in the Belarusian and Russian territories of Belarus. Its main task will be the preparation and use of groupings of troops (forces) in the interests of ensuring the military security of the Union State.

          One of the ways of such preparation is bilateral maneuvers and training, which is why a joint staff training was organized from March 13 to March 17 with the Joint Command of the regional group of forces (forces) of Belarus and Russia, which is a planned event in preparation for the joint strategic exercises West-2017.

          The purpose of the event is to improve the coherence of the military command and control agencies and the operational compatibility of the personnel of the Joint Command during the planning of the use of the RGV (S) together with other troops and military units of the Republic of Belarus.
          http://www.belvpo.com/ru/80781.html
        3. +2
          14 March 2017 11: 49
          Quote: Kenneth
          London forgotten. To scandinavia. Belgium Holland. South of Europe. For your aggressiveness, there are still places on our continent.


          Aggressive, vindictive, bloodthirsty and vengeful YOU on earth no
          1. +2
            14 March 2017 12: 17
            Fear unhappy :)
            1. +1
              14 March 2017 19: 34
              Quote: Kenneth
              Fear unhappy :)

              What the hell?
        4. +3
          14 March 2017 14: 28
          Quote: Kenneth
          London forgotten. To scandinavia. Belgium Holland. South of Europe. For your aggressiveness, there are still places on our continent.

          You are a victim of false information and a distortion of history. There has never been a case in history that Russia was the first to invade Europe. All armed visits were a response to aggression from the European conquerors. And today, the EU, under the American tune, is gathering its fist on the borders with Russia, absolutely not taking into account historical lessons.
          1. 0
            14 March 2017 16: 17
            A invasion of Hungary, RI and the USSR
            And Prague.
            1. +3
              14 March 2017 17: 26
              Quote: Kenneth
              A invasion of Hungary, RI and the USSR
              And Prague.

              They did not intrude there. There already stood a contingent of Soviet troops ...
              1. 0
                14 March 2017 18: 17
                In 1848, too, probably. And in Prague, how.
                1. +3
                  15 March 2017 01: 22
                  and in 1812 ?! What about Atilla? And Suvorov? and in 1945? ..... :) With a head nuno to be friends, the genius!
            2. +1
              14 March 2017 19: 37
              Quote: Kenneth
              A invasion of Hungary, RI and the USSR
              And Prague.


              Kenneth - The Hidden Si @ Nist The Hater!
              Atalef?
            3. 0
              15 March 2017 16: 19
              Quote: Kenneth
              A invasion of Hungary, RI and the USSR
              And Prague.

              He kenneth pay attention, collects all the negativity and all sorts of nasty things about our country and periodically throws it out for review, evoking in people aversion to the Russian and, in particular, to the Russian people.
              It turns out so by chance, quietly, but reaching the goal! As usual in Hebrew vile ...
        5. 0
          14 March 2017 14: 53
          for yours it is for whose did not understand?
  19. +1
    14 March 2017 09: 42
    Journalists write articles on the instructions of the editorial staff, the editorial team belongs to someone, this someone is releasing the editorial assignment. There are simple hard workers in the West who are passionate in their own way. For example, I watched a video yesterday about an American tanker.
    1. +5
      14 March 2017 09: 58
      drinks Cool said. Tanks do hard workers on the instructions of the plant management. The factory belongs to someone who is releasing the factory task. There are simple hard workers in the village who are enthusiastic in their own way. For example, yesterday I watched the program "Village Hour" ....
      "You and I are of the same blood," said Mowgli to the crocodile. bully
  20. +3
    14 March 2017 10: 10
    Counting "grannies" is certainly good. But remember the expression: “A people who do not want to feed their army will feed someone else’s ...” But for a Russian, his master is better than bending his back under a foreigner. A native country would live and there are no other worries! Hence our steadfastness, obstinacy, dedication and heroism. So cut mother and not redraw!
  21. 0
    14 March 2017 10: 15
    Quote: domokl
    Cool said. Tanks do hard workers on the instructions of the plant management. The factory belongs to someone who is releasing the factory task.

    --------------------------
    Workers cannot interpret their task so broadly.
    1. 0
      14 March 2017 13: 21
      Gee, you did not work with hard workers smile They soooo can interpret their task ... laughing
      Just changing a magazine is easier than a hard worker, so they work "as part of an editorial assignment."
  22. BAI
    +7
    14 March 2017 10: 16
    At the expense of comparing the Western and Soviet Army (we can assume that the Russian).
    One veteran recalled such an incident:
    GDR, the 50s. Joint exercises SA and army of the GDR. The task is to move the gun to the position and defeat the training target. The standard for the time.
    The Germans begin. All fastened, tightened, all on command by voice and whistle. They leave quickly, but carefully, the officer controls everything with a stopwatch, put the gun in position, a shot, the target is hit, time is a second per second.
    Our. The truck with the gun does not go to the position, but crashes. At a 180-degree turn, the gun rises to the edge, and by miracle does not roll over. The gun is mounted under the mat, the officer smashes binoculars on the bed. The loader in the fall sends the shell to the breech, again, by a miracle, without hammering it on the gun. Shot. The target is hit, the standard is blocked for more than 20 seconds. And in the war, whoever shot the first (all the more accurately) survived.
    1. +2
      14 March 2017 10: 31
      And ours can stably repeat this result.
    2. +1
      14 March 2017 10: 55
      Another veteran recalled how a Soviet tank in the GDR, under the control of a drunken officer, went to the lake to catch ducks. The barrel nuts, bolts, nails and a standard idle charge. True, then this officer was transferred to the USSR and some stars were removed
      1. +2
        14 March 2017 11: 38
        What is left of these ducks. That officer moron. And the trunk broke.
  23. +3
    14 March 2017 10: 19
    Speaking of accounting and the Russian soldier. Stalin very specifically and significantly regarded the military successes. Anyone can familiarize themselves with price lists for destroyed military equipment. I don’t remember that the Germans had this.
    1. +1
      14 March 2017 13: 25
      That's what it was - a planned economy. Materialism in the economy, love of the motherland in the heart.
      And you don’t need to mix all the concepts together, as modern ROCs love it.
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  24. +5
    14 March 2017 10: 38
    But the fact that we are definitely not them is clear to me. And God forbid us to become the same.
    By the way, they are doing everything to turn “us into them” into an ordinary pragmatic consumer. How many in today's Russia there are adherents of their various destructive cults, tied not only to religion. Take the seemingly neutral, unrelated to politics “Sect of happy sellers of washing powder”, and the activities of thousands of similar ones in Russia and the entire former USSR. In essence, they are only engaged in how to reformat the Russian mentality into pro-Western, amorphous, human-like, with a complete absence of signs of empathy.
  25. +2
    14 March 2017 11: 25
    Well, something like this ... wink hi
  26. +7
    14 March 2017 11: 30
    I don’t agree. Already steamed everything with these bears. Good and sincere people live in our country. What kind of bear faces are there ?! Yesterday, I specifically looked at all passers-by, at neighbors and colleagues. No, nobody looks like a bear! All are good.
    That's just it ... In short, we do not need to anger!
    1. 0
      14 March 2017 12: 32
      Quote: Jovanni
      What are the bear faces

      The muzzle is the part of the face that is in front of the eyes. Therefore - there are bear faces. Take a look at how nice they are.
      1. +3
        14 March 2017 13: 58
        belay Yeah ... About 12-13 I was when I saw this face in the taiga raspberry ... Beautiful .... I just didn’t have time to consider ... I had to flee urgently ... The other way.
        Then only one thing revived faith in the power of man ... We went with the uncle to the meeting place and it turned out that the bear also urgently needed to flee. And also in the other direction. He had diarrhea ... A kilometer and a half shit they found him in the wake ... Well, at least bears don’t wear pants tongue
  27. +5
    14 March 2017 12: 05
    I remember when I was a student once in a foreign SSO. StudStroySquad. In Berlin. And Germans, Russians, Bulgarians and Czechs lived there in the same “inter-camp”, and the composition of the brigades was international.

    The Germans were selected according to sports success, apparently. All as one guys are half a head-head taller than us and look much cooler, the girls are just fashion models. And they selected ours - according to the construction team experience, so they were not of a heroic appearance, but they were smart, strong and hardy. And friendly. The work shift was strictly according to the Labor Code, 8 hours from bell to bell, for us it was only one laugh, we got used to building up teams and for 12-16 hours, but there was nothing to talk about.

    And the very first day we all worked together - and the Germans began to look at us from the bottom up. Despite the difference in height. And one said so, "Now I understand why you defeated us."
    1. +4
      14 March 2017 13: 30
      Quote: murriou
      girls - direct fashion models

      German and fashion model - 2 things are diametrically opposed. Probably from all over Germany collected bit by bit. No offense to Germany, but to find a beautiful German - you need to try.
      1. +1
        14 March 2017 13: 32
        I tried there, I assure you laughing
      2. 0
        15 March 2017 01: 16
        Go to Cologne. Through one, good.
    2. +2
      14 March 2017 16: 36
      Quote: murriou
      All as one guys half a head-head taller than us and looking much cooler,

      In 1996-1998, motor ships were built in Aksai at the Don-Cassens joint Russian-German enterprise. At a rally dedicated to the descent (or baptism) of another vessel, he drew attention to a group of men above all their heads, standing in a crowd in a tight group. He asked who they were. "German welders" - was the answer. Also picked up on sports success?
  28. +2
    14 March 2017 12: 11
    The problem is that the Slavs, as an ethnos, are rather kind and resourceful, without taking into account the Zapadentsev, they have a separate topic. From Napoleon they liberated more than half of Europe, they reached Paris. When Catherine fought in Europe, World War II, too, where they played a dominant role. World War I was put by millions of soldiers. It was convenient for everyone to fight with us, because we never established complete hegemony, with overwhelming dominance. Take the USA after World War II, in fact All Europe is under the boot, and Japan, Korea. The future should be in the same state of affairs as Ancient Rome and the States. Defeated opponents never rebel again and the metropolis riches mainly. we must become an unacceptable rival and enemy. There are no friends, there are permanent interests.
    1. 0
      14 March 2017 12: 43
      Now answer who we have such white and fluffy friends. Though now even earlier.
      1. +2
        14 March 2017 13: 29
        Quote: Kenneth
        Now answer who we have such white and fluffy friends. Though now even earlier.


        And who is “friends” with the USA ?!
        1. +1
          14 March 2017 14: 06
          You answer a question with a question. Try to answer first
          1. +4
            14 March 2017 14: 38
            What is the question, such is the answer (I have not said). Based on the very concept: "friendship is personal, selfless mutual relations based on love, trust, sincerity, mutual sympathies, common interests and hobbies, "what kind of friendship between states can we talk about ?!
            1. 0
              14 March 2017 15: 32
              Friends of the state are called allies.
              1. 0
                14 March 2017 15: 48
                Quote: Kenneth
                Friends of the state are called allies.


                The EU is an alliance, but friendship is not there.
                1. 0
                  14 March 2017 16: 34
                  Let there be NATO
                  1. +2
                    14 March 2017 16: 46
                    And again, by. The alliance between the states is more likely to be attracted by "selfish interests" than by friendship. NATO is from the same series. There is no friendship there and cannot be.
                    1. 0
                      14 March 2017 18: 15
                      I pointed out that friendship between countries is called a union. And you do not understand what you are trying to prove
                      1. +2
                        14 March 2017 18: 26
                        Please read what friendship is and based on this, it will be clear that there can be no disinterested relations between states, and everything else, at least as you call it.
  29. 0
    14 March 2017 12: 41
    clubfoot hacker
  30. +1
    14 March 2017 13: 23
    Quote: INTA_VEGA
    Gee, it’s you who didn’t work with hard workers :) They can be soooo interpret their task ..

    --------------------------
    I work with welders every day. They have retreats, but they cannot interpret the task. You probably work with other hard workers, tell them to cook a trailer, they cook what they can.
    1. +1
      14 March 2017 13: 42
      Quote: Altona
      You probably work with other hard workers, tell them to cook a trailer, they cook what they can.

      Welcome hi
      I started as a master in the workshop of non-standard equipment, and so, we had Arkady “welded” and had his own cell fenced off and covered with a thick canvas cover.
      Then at 11:00 a.m. lunch, the men turned off the machines, they took the brakes in dominoes, silence in the workshop, only domino bones plowed and comments on different laughing
      And with Arkady, the whole device is buzzing and buzzing ....
      Senior Kolich sends me a look, they say, what is he doing there, and the mode of operation is monophonic what
      Well, there’s nothing to do, I’ve gone ... I just think how I will look without a mask, sparks fly, there is only one fear belay
      He begged Penguin (a 2-man apprentice) glasses, pulled on, lift the canopy and see, Arkasha sits on the floor, next to a pack of electrodes, takes it with one hand and inserts it into the pancake on the floor, fuses it. I was confused, I don’t understand what’s the matter, I’m calling Penguin, let's take a look, what wonders belay
      We went in together, Arkasha’s mask was raised, and he is sleeping recourse drunk in a log wassat Until the device was turned off, work continued. For a month the whole shop was laughing laughing
      Here are such interpretations of the task laughing

      PS. "Welded" was from God, welded roses, well, really shosh he likes!
  31. +7
    14 March 2017 13: 42
    Quote: Kenneth
    Anti-Semitism betrays the brain worse than zombies.

    You can all, you can Russian and other nations of the nation, do not see it, they don’t see it poured in different ways .. but there’s at least a hint in the direction of the sons of Israel .. - Anti-Semitism right there! Enough already? Take off the "crown" as much as you can.
    1. +1
      14 March 2017 14: 04
      The sweeping hatred of all representatives of any nation is stupid
      Just hatred of the Jews is most indicative in this regard
      1. 0
        14 March 2017 19: 50
        Quote: Kenneth
        The sweeping hatred of all representatives of any nation is stupid
        Just hatred of the Jews is most indicative in this regard


        Lohakost again?
    2. +5
      14 March 2017 14: 13
      Quote: VladimS
      Anti-Semitism right there!

      Anti-Semitism is an invention of some Jews in order to arouse self-pity and receive any concessions.
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    1. +4
      14 March 2017 18: 40
      Quote: Vlad Taran
      Russia is a country of aggressors .. occupiers .. and ent is not in doubt ..

      is it pretty brotan? Putin occupied those brains?)))
  33. 0
    14 March 2017 14: 39
    Quote: Gormengast
    Just a word: is there a precedent for anyone, in general, any liberal, to spend any money — even if the cost of Kuznetsov’s sea hike — on old men and orphans? am
    For some reason, I only remember yelling "did not fit into the market","let 20 millions die" and so on. Liberast is always ready not to spend money on sea trips - but only with the condition to put it in your personal pocket! am



    this is because the liberalist is almost, and maybe the same as piderast!
  34. 0
    14 March 2017 15: 41
    It seems that under Stalin, private business was ......
  35. 0
    14 March 2017 15: 49
    The article can be compared with a joke about a drunk Russian, who drank the sea knee-deep and the whole salary. Unlike the German, who counted every brand, but did not know the “buzz” from the drunk, because the thoughts about the drunk money constantly rummaged in to his head ...
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  37. +3
    14 March 2017 18: 17
    Quote: Kenneth
    The sweeping hatred of all representatives of any nation is stupid
    Just hatred of the Jews is most indicative in this regard


    The rejection by someone, a particular Jew ..., is often interpreted by them (them) as hatred ... Uhahahahaa! A lot of honor!
    To all Jews in absolute terms. And this is not so, not so at all!

    (from conversation)
    ".. before the trip to Israel, I thought that all Jews are smart. It turned out - this is complete nonsense, I dare to say!"
  38. +2
    14 March 2017 18: 38
    now there are fewer and fewer of them. education is not that, artificial needs are not those. the country has no goal, the people have no goal, it makes no sense. I just want to live.
  39. +2
    14 March 2017 23: 58
    With the participation of "Admiral Kuznetsov" 420 sorties were carried out. Of these, 117 nightly! Destroyed 1 252 targets ...
    We are investing differently in the future, perhaps due to these 420 sorties in the United States there have not been a couple more attacks. Perhaps a couple of terrorist attacks in Germany or Turkey could not be prevented because someone fought not with terrorists, but with excavators, but conservation laws in a closed system (not only physical but also political) will not go anywhere, being will expose everything bills, wait.
    1. 0
      15 March 2017 06: 45
      laughing That's why you and the navigator because you understand such things. It is completely incomprehensible to a simple layman why the destruction of a gas or oil pipeline in Syria, which fed the money of terrorists, reduces the risk of terrorist attacks in Europe and Asia. Today they prefer not to include the thought room ... It’s calmer.
  40. 0
    15 March 2017 00: 44
    AUTHOR - RESPECT!
    just not everyone understands the value of long-term investments ...
    and about respect (when they are afraid) - and in general there is nothing to say !!!
    Authority - it just does not appear !!!
  41. 0
    15 March 2017 01: 11
    Rhyabyatki, NATO is at the threshold .... What can be contrasted at the borders? Maybe it’s easier to get into the underbelly? Cheaper and better.
  42. 0
    15 March 2017 01: 24
    Quote: Boris Shramov
    Rhyabyatki, NATO is at the threshold .... What can be contrasted at the borders? Maybe it’s easier to get into the underbelly? Cheaper and better.

    In the underbelly to his wife, climb .... smile Nowhere else to go!
    And appropriation how to beat out? Here they are! In March-April, the adoption of the budget
  43. +1
    15 March 2017 05: 42
    And why not a word that while Assad is in power in Syria on its territory will not pass gas pipe from Jordan to Europe? Losses from putting such a pipe into operation are practically unacceptable for us, because everything flew there, it went, everything swam that could shoot ...
    1. +1
      15 March 2017 06: 41
      Interestingly, does Assad need this pipe? As far as I know, the northern part of the Jordanian gas field is in Syria. Have you seen idiots among businessmen who would breed competitors? And then, gas, he is not coal. It occupies the vacant voids on its own. In Syria pumped out, flows from Jordan ... Physics, as far as I understand ...
    2. +2
      16 March 2017 17: 56
      we are almost unacceptable

      For whom for you?
      You give something unacceptability give.
  44. 0
    16 March 2017 11: 04
    Strange ... Does the author really believe that Russian pilots die in the sky of Syria for there to be a constitutional order? So that Said and Jamala give birth to their children? Politics is just a search for benefits. In a spherical vacuum. Investments. Russia is investing in Crimea, Syria and the Donbass to increase its weight in the global political space. The killed and wounded are interesting only to their own relatives.

    And the mercenaries? They are not people? They have no children? They are not trying to feed themselves and their families? German soldiers in 1941 also very sincerely wished for themselves good. Were people exterminated? Well, the authorities allowed them, and the free world didn’t hysterically — it was beneficial to organize a war with the USSR.

    Russia has made competent investments and that’s good. Plus, if I also threw off a little American paper in exchange for real physical assets, it’s generally fine.
  45. 0
    16 March 2017 19: 57
    Quote: Ilya_Nsk
    And why not a word that while Assad is in power in Syria on its territory will not pass gas pipe from Jordan to Europe? Losses from putting such a pipe into operation are practically unacceptable for us, because everything flew there, it went, everything swam that could shoot ...

    Heresy.
    And about the article, Europeans have been fighting for their kings all their lives. They won - and figs with him, And in Russia they fought for their homeland, so they don’t understand us. They always came to us to fight with the state, and always received lyuli from the Motherland.
  46. +2
    17 March 2017 11: 44
    I fully agree with the author of the article. Indeed, the people we still have are battle-worthy, and today we will not fight back. But it is today. What about tomorrow? After all, like an all-pervasive mold, the infection of individualism, fragmentation, unprincipled grabbing of money everywhere climbs and it doesn’t climb itself, but all these curls, chubais and other bastard persistently promote it in the form of explicit NPOs or hidden ones. Look at what such figures as Amnuel, Drandin and the like weave, because these are clear open foes. More and more boys and girls in narrow trousers with fitted asses, even saw makeup. And these are the future defenders of the motherland? Yes, at best they’ll do it in their pants and give up. Those who in power do not understand that soon there will be no one to protect their wealth, if not to stop all these creeps towards "market and democracy." Although most likely they will surrender the country without a fight, as described in The Marauder. After all, it’s already clear to everyone that it’s going to war and it is urgent to nationalize the extraction of natural resources and put the economy in special pre-war conditions with all the consequences. Putin-the unlimited power of the commander in chief, the liberals-to shoot. That's about like that. Otherwise, we lose, the Anglo-Saxons have a gigantic experience in the behind-the-scenes struggle. They will arrange a new revolution for us and kapets. Maybe I have exaggerated, but for a quarter of a century the authorities have been chatting about the fight against corruption, while they themselves are dragging and dragging resources and money abroad.
    1. 0
      20 March 2017 09: 46
      Communism needs to be built, and whoever disagrees with this is an expense. soldier
  47. 0
    17 March 2017 15: 37
    Everything is said correctly about the Russian spirit. And then the bear has to do with it again? I don’t know who started it and most importantly why animals and nations drew parallels. It seems that exberts and stuff, even looking in the mirror, begin to see a furry facial expression. No, but that's right, to say endlessly - I’m more ... van ... chick, I’m more ... van ... chick - sooner or later you will believe it.
    1. 0
      20 March 2017 09: 43
      Well, not a kangaroo ... lol
  48. 0
    18 March 2017 07: 13
    There is nobody worse than us in the war, we are dying worthily. Better than we live. This is the main thing. Forever.
  49. 0
    18 March 2017 21: 46
    If I'm not mistaken, the Americans have a low combat threshold (correct me) ... begins when losses are 20%, and the Russians have a high combat threshold until the last soldier. I don’t know what it is, education or genes, most likely genes ... there are many examples from the Second World War to the present day .... From Robert Kershaw’s book “1941, through the eyes of the Germans”: “During the attack, we came across a light Russian tank T- 26, we immediately clicked right out of the 37 graph paper. When we began to approach, a Russian leaned out of the hatch of the tower to the waist and opened fire on us with a pistol. It soon became clear that he was without legs, they were torn off when the tank was hit. And despite this, he fired at us with a pistol! ” / Gunner of anti-tank guns /

    “The behavior of the Russians even in the first battle was strikingly different from the behavior of the Poles and allies who were defeated on the Western Front. Even being in the circle of encirclement, the Russians stubbornly defended themselves. ” / General Gunther Blumentritt, Chief of Staff of the 4th Army /

  50. 0
    20 March 2017 09: 40
    It is time for Our Country to change its Coat of Arms from the two heads of the Eagle to the Severe Bear. winked
  51. 0
    18 May 2017 15: 41
    The bear as an animal is by no means fearless. if you sneak up on him, he is frightened by the sudden appearance of a person and attacks not because he is stern and fearless, but because he is afraid. I don’t understand these comparisons of the country with animals at all. all animals are stupid and cowardly. and our country is full of the smartest and most glorious people.