From the ship to orbit - light floating cosmodrome "Selena"

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[ImPerts]

Either something is amiss in the kingdom, or such a text, or a confusion of welds ...
I’ll read it again tomorrow.
What do research vessels need? Yes, they are.

[opus]

Quote: ImPerts

either confusion

Everything is simple:
1. Out of business there are many ships of the 1929 project.
Chubais and Co. shoved them into "private hands"
- they rusted, the content of the money is worth
-new owners dreamed of pushing them into scrap metal (80% of their karma revenue)
2. According to the START Treaty and because of the expiration of the warranty storage period, there were many unclaimed
RS-12M Poplar, rocket RT-2ПМ / 15Ж58 - SS-25 SICKLE)
-you need to destroy the bulo
-or shoot
This required money (which the Russian Federation did not have, or rather, it did have, but it was stolen)
3. 1 + 2 = surface launch, withdrawal to the NOO PN for other people's money (see paragraph 2) + ships and crew are saved (see paragraph 1)
4. Result: the ships were sold on needles to India, we do not have a NIS fleet, there is practically no LV "stat" either.
The budget didn’t replenish, but it went bankrupt, we lost specialists, all interested parties are satisfied (pockets are still swollen)
And the court: Let's remember the Syrian operation: they bought junk and galoshes from Turkey at exorbitant prices, having previously sold their BMP (the largest in Europe) for pennies in the 90s.

[corporal]

1- Greetings and thanks for the interesting article.
2-

What is it, do not keep it; lose cry

-vultu, qui prodest

3- purely technical question:

permission to launch 4425 satellites

- who then will clean up all this garbage? They have already dirtied the orbit.

[opus]

Quote: Corporal

- who then will clean up all this garbage?

1. Switzerland:

The Clean Space One satellite is designed to clear near-Earth space.
Specialists from eSpace, the Space Engineering Center of the Lausanne Federal Polytechnic School, the LTS 5 laboratory and their colleagues at HES-SO hope to solve the problem of space debris with CleanSpace One




2. Cubes are platforms: 10 x 10 x 10 cm. They will burn
3. A recycling fee will be introduced

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D1%82%D0%B8%
D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D
0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80

[corporal]

How many of these satellites will be needed? And how many full-fledged missile launches with these interceptors? And how to remove large-sized debris? And small stuff, like fragments from explosive bolts?
So far more questions.

[Blackmokona]

These satellites have their own system for getting out of orbit. The second stage of Falcon-9 also leaves the orbit, and the first one lands. Ie there should not be garbage.

[opus]

Quote: Corporal

This is how many such satellites will be needed?

It is Switzerland that will utilize its satellites in this way.
I wrote:

Introduce a recycling fee

In general, there are many methods and ideas: if I am interested, I can unsubscribe.

[corporal]

Quote: opus

There are many methods and ideas: if interested, I can unsubscribe.

Make an article.

[Barakuda]

This article is probably for the interested super-specialists of space technology.
Would fall into a sinful orbit.
I had a teacher - a professor, we used his methods to find out why FOBOSes don't work at all and the stations are shutting down, we found out and screwed it up. He left for America in 1998. He died a millionaire. I would have given his last name, but that's not good.

[opus]

Quote: Barracuda

This article is probably for the interested super-specialists of space technology.

little girl, my teachers, they would have dug me

Quote: Barracuda

Would fall into a sinful orbit.

not understood? I had to write about Ukraine or about Obama?

Threat. A great film is on NTV, about aviation. Best Russian TV movie in 15 years

Quote: Barracuda

He left for America in the 1998 year. He died a millionaire.

My grandmother raised me, and I VERY respect her: "where he was born, there he fit!
This is an axiom ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: opus

Quote: Barracuda

This article is probably for the interested super-specialists of space technology.

little girl, my teachers, they would have dug me

Quote: Barracuda

Would fall into a sinful orbit.

not understood? I had to write about Ukraine or about Obama?

Threat. A great film is on NTV, about aviation. Best Russian TV movie in 15 years

Quote: Barracuda

He left for America in the 1998 year. He died a millionaire.

My grandmother raised me, and I VERY respect her: "where he was born, there he fit!
This is an axiom ...

Respect to your grandmother. Well, and you accordingly.

[opus]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Well, you respectively.

Grandmother.
She was a very serious lady. Authority

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: opus

Quote: Mordvin 3

Well, you respectively.

Grandmother.
She was a very serious lady. Authority

Me too. And here I am, a bad guy. Grandfather must be to blame.

[Amurets]

Quote: opus

little girl, my teachers, they would have dug me

Not the teachers have digged you, but the teachers. In the days of the USSR, all kinds of societies operated, such as
"Knowledge" societies, all kinds of lecture halls. And they would force you, like your teachers, to give lectures on a voluntary basis. Do not be offended by possible rudeness, I apologize in advance if I wrote something wrong, but such was the reality. Once again, I express my gratitude for a clear, reasoned article. All your articles, no matter how full of technical data they are at times, I read with interest.

[opus]

Quote: Amurets

and teachers.

Yes....
From correspondence (2 days ago) with a teacher of the rocket engines department of one of the universities of Ukraine

I understand perfectly well that on the TV (more precisely on the Internet, it is impossible to watch a local TV), the achievements of the domestic military-industrial complex and space look quite rosy, and if you land and dig up some specific development, then the problems will begin to emerge as an appropriate substance. But, believe me, from here we look at all this with great envy.

To understand the situation - I regularly have 2 people who make up 50% of the group in my lecture on the theory of RD Initially, the group was larger, but the rest fell into our specialty according to the residual principle, as having one of the lowest passing points, and naturally gradually left the group. Moreover, through the fault of the departments of physics, mathematics, theorem, etc. Smile Those. here the cosmos and all its attendant do not interest anyone from the word at all. Neither officials, nor laymen, nor a new generation. When asked what you are doing, you feel like the last mammoth from the famous American cartoon.

I precipitated ... 50% goes to class and these 50% = 2 people?
And IT IS ALMOST THAT IT HAPPENED AT US IN 90!

[Amurets]

Quote: opus

I precipitated ... 50% goes to class and these 50% = 2 people?
And IT IS ALMOST THAT IT HAPPENED AT US IN 90!

Alas and unfortunately. I will not switch to politics. The 90s were given by two prestigious professions: lawyers and financiers, who were so trained that there was simply nowhere to put them. And the quality of training of young engineers is such that they have to be trained in a new way in a new place. I will not say about Moscow universities, I am talking about the province.

[Falcon5555]

the achievements of the domestic military-industrial complex and space look quite rosy, and if you land and dig up some specific development, then the problems will begin to emerge as an appropriate substance. But, believe me, from here we look at all this with great envy.

I don’t understand what he is looking at with envy? Which "domestic"? In Russian? On the joint (old)? And what exactly?
If reusable media developed, then yes, that would be a reason for envy. And the interest of the young, and others like them and of everyone else, would be excited. And so, what to talk about? About how, with military rackets, which either worked out a resource, or did not work out (and then it is not clear why the military gives them away), they are trying to launch half an kilo from an old vessel? Nonsense! It is necessary to develop normal REUSABLE (and environmentally friendly) carriers. Then students would have an interest. And so, torment yourself with education, and then, if you are in Russia, go to the factory and collect vintage Gagarin rockets for the rest of your life - who needs this? .. It's simply NOT INTERESTING!

[Catherine II]

Quote: opus

not understood? I had to write about Ukraine or about Obama

no, no, no, it was nice to read without it.

[Amurets]

Why did she fall and on the basis of what did Rogozin decide to appoint scapegoats? Telemetry is not! And most importantly: "What to do?" And "How to fix?" The data is zero, but on the basis of fortune-telling guesses, managers of the face make smart face faces and give breathtaking conclusions. This is called "I am promoting."

Anton! Interesting and informative. For some it will be interesting, for others not. I first came across this organization when I was reading N. Cherkashin, "The Secret of the Point "K" about K-129 and about this ship KIK "Chazhma"
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[Amurets]

And read about TOGE and its ships, possible on these sites. For someone, this will be a surprise.http: //www.38brrzk.ru/public/ship-
kikgl3 /
http://www.38brrzk.ru/public/ship-kikgl5/
http://mywebs.su/blog/army/10550/
Anton, maybe, most likely it is, but I just wanted to add about telemetry ships in the Pacific Ocean. Otherwise, thanks, I want to remind you that this year October 4 will be the 60th anniversary of the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite PS-1.

[Amurets]

Quote: Amurets

Otherwise, thanks, I want to remind you that this year October 4 will be the 60th anniversary of the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite PS-1.

[Amurets]

Quote: Amurets

This year, October 4 will be the 60th anniversary of the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite PS-1.

And here he is. Let it be an animation, but beautiful for that.

[opus]

Quote: Amurets

And here he is

Read "The Adam Project - Man Very High? Mission Impossible…"
soon they will print.
There is about the satellite

[opus]

Quote: Amurets

but just wanted to add about telemetry ships in the Pacific

Hey. I know
http://www.toge.ru/

But I was interested in just the surface start

Everything will not fit into the article.
Voyaka uh, corporal said to DIVIDE the articles...so I'm dividing


I already have
KIK USSR website Alexander Neom 2009-2016
[2] NIS Forum "Cosmonaut George Dobrovolsky"
Appendix to NIS CGD website
RV "Georgiy Dobrovolsky" Vladimir Proshchenko
ground

A little boy was playing in the field; he was digging a hole with a scoop.
The satellite is gone! There are no signals from GLONASS!
Laughing at NASA for a long time!

[Amurets]

Quote: opus

But I was interested in just the surface start

Clear! And this is interesting. But as you write, launches should be provided by telemetry. It is right. There should be a complex not only on telemetry of launch and flight, but also a check of the LV and spacecraft before launch.
And also about the teachers in my time: in order to "settle down", it was not only necessary to actually conduct some research, write a dissertation, publish in scientific journals, but also to conduct public work. That is why I wrote that they would not only condemn, but also envy such activity.

[opus]

Quote: Amurets

There should be a complex not only on telemetry of launch and flight, but also a check of the LV and spacecraft before launch.

Yes.

Other tracking and control ships

http://niskgd.ru/fleet/i2.htm

"Keeping memory, keeping memory is our moral duty
to ourselves and to descendants. Memory is our wealth. "
"Culture is a huge holistic phenomenon,
which makes people inhabiting a certain space,
from a mere population - a people, a nation "

D.S. Likhachev

CFC "Chumikan" and "Chazhma"
http://niskgd.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5
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Articles and videos on how to destroy the QGD
http://niskgd.ru/articles/index.htm
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our "elite"

Quote: Amurets

but also to conduct community work.

Comrade ...
1. I have no lecturing skills (children lead or... though not in their homeland)
2.We have a slightly different social work now in fashion:

[Amurets]

Quote: opus

.We have a slightly different social work now in fashion:

I agree. I meant the Soviet time.

[opus]

Quote: Amurets

I agree. I meant the Soviet time.

dont spoil spirit

And not everything was right and right ....
But so prossp ** b

Quote: Referent

were also

everything was..
as it turned out, all that was missing for complete happiness was Coca-Cola, Babal Gama and jeans

[Referent]

In addition to Chazhma, there was also Chumikan, the flagship was Marshal Nedelin ..... there were also Sakhalin, Siberia, Spassk, Chukotka. He served in the military service 85-88 ...

[Falcon5555]

Five steps - this is strong!
And what is there for the non-military yellow containers on the military-green conveyors, it is not clear. Start? "Free"?

[Amurets]

Quote: Falcon5555

And what is there for the non-military yellow containers on the military-green conveyors, it is not clear. Start? "Free"?

What surprises you? Here is information about him: http: //ru.rfwiki.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B2%D0%BE%
D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_(%D0%BA%D0%BE
%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC)
Here is the plan of the spaceport.
Now in this area the Vostochny spaceport is under construction.

[Catherine II]

"Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin" is amazing even in photographs. It was twice as large as the Titanic. Displacement of the ship 45 thousand tons (for comparison: the Titanic had a displacement of 28 thousand tons).
Today, in many countries of the world there are ships built to track space. Somewhat in the USA and France, China is constantly expanding its space fleet: our eastern neighbors already have 5 specialized vessels equipped with telemetry reception and spacecraft control systems.
The article caused some emotions .. and admiration and loss (especially the photo of Gagarin in Alanga)

[kig]

When various projects "from ship to orbit" were listed, for some reason they missed Seal Launch, which works quite successfully, despite a series of bankruptcy scandals.

[kunstkammer]

Until October 1998, everything was moving ... The additional equipment of the ship took place for Russian money, taking into account the fact that the Americans would sign a contract (?) ... But at the last moment they unexpectedly changed their minds and offered to refuse his services

Now I understand how you can ruin another country without spending a dime: I have to offer them to build a staircase to the moon, promising that I’ll surely pay for everything later and climb on to the moon myself, I will invite my friends, colleagues and mistresses.
Well, about the same, to do the same - if not to expand NATO east to promise another moron.
in the joys of such a gesheft they will spend billions of budget money ... and then tell them that I changed my mind and climb up the other stairs.
Boobies from the state do not care what and how much to cut ... the main thing is in your pocket.

[valpro24]

Quote: Catherine II

"Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin" ... was twice as large as the "Titanic" Displacement of the ship was 45 thousand tons (for comparison: the "Titanic" had a displacement of 28 thousand tons).

Nonsense
See here: http://niskgd.ru/mix/p48/Titanic_vs_Gagarin.png