During the construction of the objects of the Ministry of Defense in the Arctic 3 billion rubles were stolen

Co-owners of the company Rusalians Stroy (contractor Spetsstroy) Dmitry Bushmanov and Alexey Ekkert were accused of embezzling 3 billion rubles in the construction of objects of the Defense Ministry on Wrangel Island and Cape Schmidt, reports Kommersant.

The accused extended the arrest to 17 in May. They are accused of “large-scale fraud (part 4 Art. 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation)” and “laundering of stolen money (part 4 Art. 174.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation)”.

The “Main Directorate of Engineering Work No. 2 under the Special Construction of Russia” (GUIR-2) was instructed by the Ministry of Defense to construct two stationary objects of the radar department and a guidance point aviation on Cape Schmidt in the Iultinsky district of Chukotka and on Wrangel Island. Rusalyans Stroy LLC, under the leadership of Bushmanov and Eckert, became a subcontractor under this agreement, ”the article says.

Initially, they were not going to fulfill their obligations, the defendants wanted to get more money in the form of advances due to an increase in the estimated cost of buildings.

According to the indictment, “Alexei Eckert tried to get information about all the procurement and contracts of GUIR-2, so that using his old contacts in the military department, to influence their outcome, and Dmitry Bushmanov, in turn, had to create visibility of allegedly ongoing work in the Arctic. "

Thus, they “ensured that positive decisions were made to transfer 2014 - June 2015 of advances to 2,95 billion rubles to their company's accounts in July.” At the same time, part of the funds of the defendants and their unidentified accomplices were nevertheless directed “to conduct survey, design and construction and installation work on the construction of individual fragments of the structures specified in the subcontract agreements”.

At the same time, the defendants managed to launder 270 million rubles from the stolen sums of XNUMX.

Dmitry Bushmanov and Alexey Ekker were arrested in March last year, they do not recognize their guilt.

Comments

[Pirogov]

Is this all they built in the photo?

[St Petrov]

I remember how Medvedev sent an examiner with tomographs to decide the matter - as a result, the examiner was seated 2 weeks later.

Ruling Russia is not a sneaker.
We have a lot of smart and smart people, and the Kremlin is far away - and it seems to each of them that they did not pay extra for his ingenuity.

Corruption will not only be likely when the AI ​​will manage such things.

They even steal knowing that a check is in progress - they don’t even stop. And if you think that executions will help, you are naive.

The human nature is this. He who does not risk does not drink champagne and so on.

Under Stalin, they stole, under Peter, under Nicholas - in general, and chop off their hands - a third of the country will go without hands.

Increase the punishment - well, I don’t know if they give 8 years for the murder - then how to give more for theft? To summarize state treason - this is how all businessmen sitting on government order under this article can go.

In general, they did not win in 1000 years - it’s silly to hope that now it’s going somewhere.

It remains to control - and return the money. Which, in principle, they are trying to do.

And it’s always more difficult to come up with a defense than to come up with a gray scheme. And more expensive.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Increase the punishment - well, I don’t know if they give 8 years for the murder - then how to give more for theft? To summarize state treason - this is how all businessmen sitting on the state order for this article can go

When the fines were increased, then everyone immediately buckled up at the wheel. And what's wrong with particularly stupid or especially thieves entrepreneurs rumble for theft?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Thunderbolt

. And what is bad if especially stupid or especially thieves entrepreneurs thunder for theft?

The question is not this, but that they steal so much and everywhere that it is felt not at the level of the city, the village, but at the level of the whole country ... and this affects both state programs and the situation of confrontation with the adversary.
And then at the time to equate the treasury with treason to the Motherland, with all that it implies ... here is a billion, there are three, and in the end, the cost of the entire fleet renewal program, with the construction of aircraft carriers, Leaders, etc.

[Scoun]

Quote: NEXUS

And here at the time to equate the treasury with treason to the motherland, with all that it implies.

Yeah)) in the article, see how the bees vote against honey)))
http://flojolet.livejournal.com/97964.html

Eh, it’s good that our country has not ratified the 20th article of the Anti-Corruption Convention, because then officials would have to prove the legal source of their income, for which all this good is bought. Moreover, Russian legislation does not oblige citizen Prokh and his family members to post income declarations on the administration’s website, and the mayor himself considers such an initiative unnecessary.

[Uncle Murzik]

Dmitry Bushmanov and Alexei Eckert are members of the “United Russia” party, or not?

[yehat]

statistics is a tricky thing, but many agree on the estimates that in our country from 60 to 75% of investments are eaten by theft and sloppiness. How to hope for a good future under such conditions? Just imagine that your future is divided by 4 every day.
brrrr!

[Thunderbolt]

It is necessary not to feel sorry for poor businessmen and presumptuous bureaucrats, but peaceful cities where a warhead may fall due to an unfinished radar station or dead babies in an unequipped hospital. An innocent baby, or with ... the head doctor and his patron in the local Duma, whose real estate in Montenegro appeared after the development of budget funds?

[Temples]

Is this all they built in the photo?

No, this is what is possible to build on the money remaining after the kickbacks.

Ruling Russia is not a sneaker.

This is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.
The blame is not those who cut these billions, but those who have contracted with them. Where did you look when choosing a contractor? Probably looked into the pocket. From which contractor there will be rustling in your pocket. And these two seem to be just locomotives.

[udincev]

So you need to understand that nature is to blame for everything. Well, in the Arctic, so there are generally polar bears ...

[Temples]

Chubais is to blame. This is a fact that cannot be doubted. So bequeathed the great EBN !!!

[elmi]

For example, I am no longer surprised, but why be surprised? if at the top they steal and do not serve the due time. Around steal, things are closed, someone is paying off. There are no real landings, because of this they lost fear

[Temples]

Landing will not fix the situation. Many deliberately drag, realizing that they can sit down, but the children and the family as a whole will be provided. Sacrifice themselves, so to speak. The system is a curve. Either labore at the bankers, or “sacrifice” their freedom.

[Xnumx vis]

"Checking people and checking the actual execution of the case - <...> this is now the centerpiece of all work" (Lenin, "On the international and internal situation of the Soviet Republic", speech on March 6, 1922). "Healthy distrust is a good basis for joint work "(Stalin in conversation with B. Kuhn; p. 190).

[lukewarm]

Old song about the main thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=244&a
mp; v = XdpwJ7SopMM

[levfuks]

Quote: s-t Petrov

In general, they have not won in 1000 years - it’s silly to hope

Not everything is as hopeless as you think. There are working methods, not 100% of course.
It’s not me who came up, but I’ll try to voice it:
1. Confiscation not only of the perpetrator, but also of their families with the preservation of the "living wage" (not minimum wage);
2. Disclaimer giving a bribe in case of full cooperation with the investigation. Those. a corruptionist (representative of power) uniquely sits down and loses everything.
The circuit breaks.
Of course it is necessary to toughen the punishment until the execution, but this is not the main thing.
The law should WORK and be the same for everyone.

[Funnels]

Well, even Bastrykin has already spoken about this. True, these are just words.

[levfuks]

In my commentary and Bastrykin’s words, only the bottom is a common word - confiscation.

Quote: Funnels

True while these are just words.

It remains only to believe that something will begin to change.

[AUL]

The law should WORK and be the same for everyone.

Dream, dream ...

[Stas157]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Under Stalin, they stole

A phrase that does not carry any information. And how much did they steal under Stalin? Is it really this hour ?! If you compare with the fact that this hour, it will come out that did not steal at all! And those who stole, paid toughly !! As much as they steal this hour, but they never steal as much. Because they do not plant, and do not put against the wall.

Quote: s-t Petrov

chop hands off - without hands a third of the country will go.

Yes you! I assure you, if it starts, then there will be a sharp decrease in those who want it. Under Stalin, it was necessary to be a very brave man in order to steal from the people! And now there are no courageous! Why not blurt out to justify our thieves power!))

[Karabin]

Quote: s-t Petrov

It remains to control - and return the money. Which, in principle, they are trying to do.

Between trying and making a huge distance. The crumbs return.

[fa2998]

Quote: s-t Petrov

And if you think that executions will help, you are naive.

For the thousandth time, I have already read such an opus on VO. Firstly, probably someone DOESN’T want to impose a similar measure of punishment. Secondly, the issue is debatable, in practice, we have NEVER been applied in market relations. So let's introduce some experiments problems-will not help-cancel. Moreover, the sentence should be along with confiscation.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Increase the punishment - well, I don’t know if they give 8 years for the murder - then how to give more for theft? To summarize state treason - this is how all businessmen sitting on government order under this article can go.

Well, with murder in the same row, of course they cannot be put, however, if you return to the judicial practice such a thing as confiscation of property, then this will be worse for executioners than execution)))

[viktor.]

I completely agree with you, First of all, you need to encourage law enforcement officers to 50 percent of the proven theft, so that every investigator would dream in such a way to ensure a chic old age, the official who also stole his colleague should also be encouraged! but we really didn’t plant and deprive all the property, including underwear of more than one big thief, SERDyukov, Vasilyeva sang with joy !!! they don’t need to be planted, shot, just take everything away and send to Siberia to the Far East to the villages for years to 20! percent of 30 thieves will work, it's completely literate people !!!!

[yuriy55]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Under Stalin, they stole, under Peter, under Nicholas - in general, and chop off his hands - a third of the country will go without hands.

Yeah, under Stalin they stole ... so much so that everything that he "stole" in state bins, liberalists and nouveau riche from Chubais are still being pulled away ...
Only the same responsibility before the law and its inevitability will be able to change the situation ... Then they will not steal, and in Moscow they will "dissect" expensive cars at a frantic speed ...
Because ordinary soldiers are not changed to generals ...
You do not touch Stalin just because his sons served in the army ... in the USSR, and did not smoke weed in London ...

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Pirogov

Is this all they built in the photo?

It was built, it seems, like a lot, only today in the formula of meaning ILNITSKY told

[maxim947]

One question - "Where is the money Zin?" We are waiting for the continuation of the story with the return of money to the treasury, preferably in a multiple

[stas]

Where in Russia they do not steal, they are more than confident that they steal in the Kremlin.
We have such a market flea market that the tsar likes, since the former KGB is at the head of economic projects.

[St Petrov]

We have such a market flea market that the tsar likes, since the former KGB is at the head of economic projects.

began to steal means after the onset of capitalism?

And before that in Russia, then in RI and in the USSR there was a fairy tale, pink shores, and kind, honest people?

Well, it’s clear Putin came and started

[Temples]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Okay, Putin came and started laughing.

Not certainly in that way.
Putin came, but they didn’t stop stealing.
And the claim is true.
If not him, then who? Not landing after all!

The minister steals, and his head (prime minister) did not even cross himself. Like water off a duck's back. The question is, where are you looking? Who did you surround yourself with? And I have nothing to do with it, nothing to do with it at all.

So we have to arrange the GDP for the purges in the ministries themselves. After all, the prime minister was once all in an iPhone ...

[St Petrov]

Putin came, but they didn’t stop stealing.

we understand that there are no such rulers under whom they do not steal. Jesus would not have done it

So we have to arrange the GDP for the purges in the ministries themselves.

the fact that he removes the generals is his direct work according to the protocol. And not the fact that this is a struggle - maybe it's time to retire. Our media are such

[St Petrov]

PS as for me it’s time to work it out with labor, and not with imprisonment. All the same, we can’t get away from it - so gratuitous power has always been appreciated in our state. it's time to revive the tradition, so to speak

[stas]

Petrov did not bother you to portray Urya-Hero as himself — to the glory of the Tsar.

[yuriy55]

Quote: s-t Petrov

we understand that there are no such rulers under whom they do not steal. Jesus would not have done it

You don’t “call” from your bell tower, we believe that surrounded by GDP, according to his spokesman, who looks at his watch, there are some honest ... “thieves” ...

It’s hard to be a rapist with circumcised foreskin ...
It’s hard to steal from those who have nothing and nothing ...
It’s hard to sit in a car and squeeze 180 km / h after pouring rods ...
It is impossible to hide from paying taxes, knowing that if they find it, they will be exacted multiple times and they will give them a hand in 10 years to build roads, and the one who found it will receive a bonus in the amount of withheld tax ...
But you never know?
It is necessary to disperse the State Duma, which comes up with laws for thieves and return to the police, which for the people ... to Uncles Styopam ...

[fa2998]

Quote: s-t Petrov

And before that in Russia, then in RI and in the USSR there was a fairy tale, pink shores, and kind, honest people?

Yes, they stole. During the seizure, kilograms of jewelry, a bunch of savings books were seized. BUT THIS IS A KINDERGARTEN! There were millionaires (ruble) in the USSR. And now they steal billions of dollars. Real estate abroad, accounts in foreign banks, yachts, and many others. Many they have already bought a business abroad. What they find now is watches, cars, apartments, cash, these are trifles from what they stole!

[yuriy55]

Quote: fa2998

What they find now is watches, cars, apartments, cash is the little things from what was stolen!

This is something that they could not withdraw and take out ... Not every thief has his own bank ...

[11 black]

Quote: fa2998

Yes, they stole. During the seizure, kilograms of jewelry were seized, a bunch of savings books. BUT THIS IS A KINDERGARTEN! There were millionaires (ruble) in the USSR. And now they steal billions of dollars.

Well, then how much was the ruble against the dollar ???

[Saburov]

Briefly about the situation in our country and in the government, it can be described as follows - a thief sits on a thief and drives a thief!

[yuriy55]

Quote: Saburov

Briefly about the situation in our country and in the government, it can be described as follows - a thief sits on a thief and drives a thief!

It is called STABILITY:

[opus]

Quote: Pirogov

Is this all they built in the photo?

It would be better if it was a photo of everything that they stole!

Quote: Author

During the construction of the objects of the Ministry of Defense in the Arctic 3 billion rubles were stolen

Now Mercedes with rhinestones where to catch?

[Skubudu]

The punishment for a crime related to undermining a country's defense should be stricter than with ordinary fraud. IMHO.

[drunkram]

Yes, it’s lucky if they give a strict regime and 5 years at least, despite the fraud in extra-large

[To be or not to be]

This is already the limit! And it became commonplace. like a trifle in the market from the pocket of a sucker to rub
. But. the state can be such a sucker and beat only on the facts of theft.?
There is no fear, here and billions tossed .. And that there was fear = what is necessary? inevitability of punishment up to the execution and confiscation of property, including relatives who never work
And on a large scale - according to the State - The moral of society must be changed From dollars and euros to ... something high .. Servants in the country and society .... From nursery and school ... until graduation and beyond

yes and

[yuriy55]

Quote: To be or not to be

And for large - for the State - the moral of the society must be changed

It's time to change, it's time ...
To begin with, remove various regional orders and medals and not reward thieves for "Service to the Fatherland" ...
Yes ... I liked the "chop off the head" ...

[Slovak]

Serdyukov was not touched at all. Only ass shifts from one high chair to another. Vasilyeva, you can envy, propiaril, did not touch the loot. Are these better or worse?

[Monos]

Somehow not inventive. Stupidly slamzili and all. For this it is necessary to plant for life.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Monos

Somehow not inventive. Stupidly slamzili and all. For this it is necessary to plant for life.

The sorcerers learn nothing. They are caught and planted periodically, and they continue to dig in the hope: "They will not catch me!" ...

[stas]

And if they shared it, then they simply fired with a fine of 300 thousand rubles.

[KasDS]

already traditionally. rather not surprised

[uporov65]

It can not be. Surely all the polar bears were pulled away, scum.

[Mountain shooter]

They completely lost their fear, the cats are slops. Well, all the signals were already there, they say, the guys are good at stealing, we’ll catch and land. Do not heed. Or maybe they just don’t know anything else?

[svp67]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Did not heed

And what to listen to? Who was punished approximately and with all severity? Why so afraid. A maximum penny and a suspended sentence, and provided that they "did not run away" beyond the hill, where they are from a thief, immediately turn into political refugees ...

[lukewarm]

I completely agree. The way that the “struggle” (for example, Vasilyev, Serdyukov, Zakharchenko, Ulyukaev and they have a number) is “consistently” waged and, on the contrary, inspires them and the kagbe winks approvingly ... Come on, say, do not be shy. All of them are here.

[Kudrevkn]

That is why it is not surprising! This is such a "national sport" - who steals more? Previously, "rolled" - there was nowhere to put money, but now "does not roll"? The good news is only one thing - now the payment of work on public defense contracts from the Moscow Region (from Shevtsova to Shoigu) has been transferred to the Ministry of Finance (which Seluanov has been seeking for 2 years!) And immediately these “gifts” for the Investigative Committee and the State Office (military prosecutor’s office), as well as the UEB FSB - there is an opportunity to "curry favor" with the President! But Mr. Rogozin - another "wick" (last Chinese warning, another)? "-Well, how is it in Russia? - They steal, sir !?"

[alexleony]

There is nothing surprising - there is no fear of the law. And the fact that people see that there is no government for such villains does even more harm.

[St Petrov]

there is a government. look how much is already sitting. It is just a human being. Sin. And repent

[yuriy55]

Quote: alexleony

.And that people see that there is no government for such villains, it does even more harm.

Impunity breeds permissiveness ...

Quote: s-t Petrov

It is just a human being.

For every human being, you can find a stick and a carrot ... It’s not recommended to single out these untouchables into clans of the untouchables ...

[svp67]

Co-owners of the Rusalliance Stroy company (Spetsstroy contractor) Dmitry Bushmanov and Alexei Eckert were accused of embezzling 3 billion rubles during the construction of Defense Ministry facilities on Wrangel Island and Cape Schmidt, Kommersant reports.

So I understand that they will be punished in all severity ... by house arrest, suspended sentence and a fine, rubles so on 50 000

[Cat man null]

Quote: svp67

So I understand that they will be punished in all severity ... by house arrest, suspended sentence and a fine, rubles so on 50 000

- Well, how do you know ...
- someone Khoroshavin, for example, he is still in jail and under investigation

[svp67]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Khoroshavin, for example, is still in jail and under investigation

Yes, and now everything is being done for the collapse of his business ... Well, wait and see.

[Cat man null]

Quote: svp67

Now everything is being done for the collapse of his business ...

- you cannot own real information on this subject ... because of the secrecy of the investigation, at least
- what they write about it in the press ... well, it's about like a fence
- and the fact that it has been closed for 2 years ago is an indisputable fact
- if you mean that the lawyer (s) is working (s) in the case, then ... well, they have such a job, to ruin things. So far, as we see, they do not really succeed.

Voooot ...

[svp67]

Quote: Cat Man Null

So far, as we see, they do not really succeed.

Well, how can I say, until, despite the request of the prosecutor, the court went to a meeting of lawyers and made this process open. Let's see what and how the witnesses will now say.

[Cat man null]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Cat Man Null

So far, as we see, they do not really succeed.

Well, how can I say, until, despite the request of the prosecutor, the court went to a meeting of lawyers and made this process open. Let's see what and how the witnesses will now say.

- is the client closed? Was the petition for mitigation of the preventive measure rejected (that's just nonsense)?
- everything else - lyrics

[svp67]

Quote: Cat Man Null

everything else - lyrics

May be. Time will tell.
One thing I know, we won’t be surprised at ANYTHING ...

[St Petrov]

Mikhail Evgrafovich has already painted everything for a long time

1. If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and they ask me what is happening in Russia, I will answer: they drink and steal ...

2. Something I wanted: either the constitution, or the stellar sturgeon with horseradish, or someone to strip.

3. In all countries, railways are used for movement, and in our country, moreover, for theft.

4. When and what bureaucrat was not convinced that Russia has a pie to which you can freely approach and eat?

5. The Russian government should keep its people in a state of constant amazement. - I won’t be surprised about anything

6. It’s still nothing that in Europe they give one fifty dollars for our ruble, it will be worse if they give in our faces for our ruble.

7. If a person begins to be surprised in Holy Russia, then he will be dumbfounded in surprise, and so will die until death. - at this point, too, about surprise

8. The strictness of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-binding nature of their implementation.

9. Well, with us, brother, not so. With us, not only apples would be eaten, but branches would be broken off! At our place, Uncle Sofron walked past a mug of kerosene - and he drank it all!

10. We have no middle ground: either in the snout or in the handle, please!

11. No, it is clear that there are corners in God's world where all times are transitional.

12. “Mon cher,” Krutitsyn used to say, “divide everything evenly today, and tomorrow inequality will nevertheless come into its own.”

13. Alas! less than a quarter of an hour passed, and it seemed to me that now is the very present to drink vodka.

14. - Now, mother, and without a husband it’s the same as living with a husband. Today, religions laugh at prescriptions. We reached the bush, got married under the bush - and the thing is in the hat. This is called a civil marriage.

15. In order to steal with success, you need to have only agility and greed. Greed is especially necessary, because for a small theft you can go to court.

16. ... In large letters the words were completely insignificant, and all the essentials were depicted in the smallest font.

17. To every ugliness its own decency.

18. ... The purpose of the publication of laws is twofold: some are issued for the majority of nations and countries of dispensation, others - so that lawmakers do not go to idleness.

19. - The young lady is asked, for a large or small neckline to wash their neck?

20. To introduce education with moderation, avoiding bloodshed, if possible.

21. In general, they are very dangerous, and not even because they are necessarily evil, but because they are alien to all sorts of considerations and always go ahead, as if the road on which they found themselves,
belongs to them alone.

22. “Credit,” he explained to Kolya Persianov, “this is when you have no money ... understand?” No money, and suddenly - clack! - they are!
“However, mon cher, if they demand payment?” - burred Kolya.
- Eccentric! You don’t even understand such a simple thing! You have to pay - well, and again a loan! Still pay - more credit! Today, all states live like that!

23. Strunnikov could not be called stupid, in the rough meaning of the word, but he was smart enough so that, as they say, there are no greasy candles and glass is not wiped off.

24. In talkativeness lies a lie, and a lie, as you know, is the mother of all vices.

25. One takes over another and thinks: “With whatever pleasure I threw you, chicken son, out the window, if only ...”, and the other sits and thinks: “With what pleasure I spat
to you, a vile fawn, in the face, if only ... ”Imagine that this“ if ”does not exist - what an exchange of thoughts would suddenly have occurred between the interlocutors!

26. Those who believe that only those scribblers can be considered worthy citizens who, maddened by fear, sit in holes and tremble wrongly believe. No, these are not citizens, but at least useless clerks.

27. The words “haven’t noticed anything” already contain a whole reputation that will not allow a person to plunge into the abyss of absolute obscurity without a trace.

28. Many tend to confuse two concepts: “Fatherland” and “Your Excellency”.

29. It is scary when a person speaks and you don’t know why he says, what he says and whether he will ever finish.

30. Talent itself is colorless and acquires color only in application.

[Alexander 3]

Everyone should see the trial of thieves. It is necessary to do such processes publicly.

[creak]

Quote: Thirteenth

In our country, and not to undermine - GREAT SIN!

Carry every nail from work, you are the boss here, not the guest ...

[Tolstoevsky]

the only effective means in the fight against embezzlers - timely executions

[svp67]

Quote: Tolstoevsky

the only effective means in the fight against embezzlers - timely executions

You apparently forgetfulness forgot to put in the end "?"
Since the statement is controversial. Over in China, hundreds of people are shot in a month, and somehow the line of execution does not decrease.
It is necessary to punish STRICTLY and OPEN, so that this does not become the "internal showdown" of the clans. And you can be punished without capital punishment, just for that, cut off the possibility of working in government agencies and with government agencies, including under contracts, for the culprit and all his closest relatives for three generations. And to detain in a timely manner, not allowing him to go abroad not to stolen capital.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Tolstoevsky

the only effective means in the fight against embezzlers - timely executions

And if you send gold to the mines (dig) until it makes up for the damage?

[Vladimir Postnikov]

This morning in all the media there is news about the thefts in the Ministry of Education and Science. So what?
It has long been clear that the system is not working. The system is stealing. It is necessary to change the system. But the system cannot be changed. The system will not like it. Well, I watched the movie A. Navalny "He is not Dimon for you." There A. Navalny directly accuses D. Medvedev of corruption. So what? No one against A. Navalny initiates criminal proceedings in defamation.
For those who are especially stupid, I’ll inform you that I am not a supporter of A. Navalny, because this person has not yet published his program for the socio-economic development of the Russian Federation, as a result of which he does not exist for me as a politician. As a politician, he doesn’t exist, but as an “abscessor of abscesses,” he even exists.
Well, they steal. Well, open up. What's next?

[St Petrov]

that this person has not yet published his program

and after the publication of the paper you will be for?

therefore, as a politician, he does not exist for me

Are you talking about a thief?

As a politician, he doesn’t exist, but as an “abscessor of abscesses,” he very much exists.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Mr. Petrov, did you take any medicine in the morning?

[St Petrov]

Mr. Petrov, did you take any medicine in the morning?

after them, I will wait for the bulk program and it will exist for me as a politician?

keep these miracle pills for yourself

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Do not take in vain.

[St Petrov]

I’m afraid I’ll be banned if I tell you what needs to be taken by especially smart people here who are waiting for the program from the bulk and its execution even if it appears

For the most stupid, I’ll inform you that I am not a supporter of A. Navalny, because this person has not yet published his program for the socio-economic development of the Russian Federation

smiles at me in the morning by commentators

[Vladimir Postnikov]

You do not take medicine, therefore your inflamed brain gives out nonsense and nightmares. I do not expect anything from Navalny. And even more so I do not wait for the fulfillment of what does not exist. I strongly recommend that you consult a doctor and follow his instructions.

[St Petrov]

I turned to the original source - your comment - then you send me to the doctor for quoting nonsense?

how useless. Have you already signed up for FBK? Reflect or immediately spread?)

PS An investigation from the unemployed Alyosha, who drives a Ford in the last body and stands several lyamas, about Medvedev's shoes for 50 tr I liked more.

This is where the whole essence of our venal power is revealed and the prime minister

[Vladimir Postnikov]

sir Petrov - to ignore!

[St Petrov]

sir Petrov - to ignore!

and sho it? Well, after the Bulk program will release at least remove ignore?

Well, when will he become for you a politician who exists?

[Banishing liberoids]

And so throughout Russia. ..

[AID.S]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Well, I watched the movie A. Navalny "He is not Dimon for you." There A. Navalny directly accuses D. Medvedev of corruption.

So he says to the camera, “Medvedev is a court, I answer, here are the facts, accounts, witnesses, check”?

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Apparently you have not watched this movie. He speaks directly to the camera. Exactly.
Look first before "I have not read, but condemn."

[St Petrov]

Look first

at our work a whole department is engaged in what you are now drowning here alone for Alyosha

Also probably for free?

I love the adherents of FBK and anti-corruption Alesha

PS I can not eat (s) when I read about Alyosha in topics about corruption

so nothing personal) just funny

[AID.S]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Apparently you have not watched this movie. He speaks directly to the camera. Exactly.

Did not watch , tea is not Bondarchuk’s “War and Peace”, and does not draw to watch as one, a thief (confirmed by court !!!!), blames theft of another. And I deeply doubt that the bulk is not something that he will submit "his evidence" to the court, to the prosecutor's office.

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Look first before "I have not read, but condemn."

And what will it change if bulk and little sympathy for the prime minister are disgusting to me? I have not seen whales, but does this mean that I have no idea about them? And nevertheless, I ask you to bring a direct bulk speech, where he directly accuses the prime minister.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: AID.S

And yet I ask you to bring a direct speech of the bulk, where he directly accuses the prime minister.

Dismiss If interested, then see for yourself, somehow. This is not text, this is a film. I made a link to the source. Further yourself, please.
By the way, if you do not want to watch, do not watch.

[AID.S]

I don’t want. The bulk is the source. Ha ha ha ....

[Banishing liberoids]

On the day when the planet ceases to steal in Russia, it will leave its orbit. .

[AID.S]

Quote: Exorcist Liberoids

On the day when the planet ceases to steal in Russia, it will leave its orbit. .

We will be optimistic, even if it does, they will not stop !!

[Ampere]

Capitalism itself is by nature legalized theft

[St Petrov]

they began to steal when the word "capitalism" was not yet formulated.

I think money has not yet been invented - and theft has already flourished.

Look at the penguins this is a simplified diagram it’s more complicated for people. In general, it all started because of the woman who bit the apple, and then she gave the peasant

therefore, after 200 years I’ll go to the VO forum (figuratively) and topics about corruption, about the prime minister with the dacha, and about the fact that people are stealing from the state will be discussed here

[udincev]

Quote: s-t Petrov

they began to steal when the word "capitalism" was not yet formulated.
I think money has not yet been invented - and theft has already flourished.

But this was theoretically justified only under capitalism. In order not to steal it was a shame

[udincev]

Quote: Ampere

Capitalism itself is by nature legalized theft

Right. It was not for nothing that the HRC issued a verdict on the same Navalny that there is simply business, and not fraud.
In this case, it turns out that we are dealing with a business in a particularly large size .

[St Petrov]

It’s not for nothing that the HRC issued a verdict on the same Navalny that there is simply business, not fraud

interesting point yes

[Observer2014]

Dmitry Bushmanov and Alexey Ekker were arrested in March last year, they do not recognize their guilt.

It needs to be To steal 3 lard to admit guilt. You can now spend money on lawyers. Yes, and sit. How much is two or three years?
On our budget, if you do not steal. You can keep at least two of Russia. I am not kidding. The ability to make estimates is real, and not according to the "Grand estimate" and knowing the value of an object you sometimes come to horror But that's another story.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

In court and in all severity, they should arrest everything - let them prove that they bought it honestly, and where they have not proved it in favor of the state to transfer everything ... And the time period for such cases should be increased by a factor so that it would continue to be inconsequential, otherwise they would steal billions for they’ll spend 3-4 years and all the handsome men go abroad to spend the loot ... I would generally make the offenders away from life after such crimes for life and not let them out of the country ...

[Cobra77]

You have mixed up the country. What you are telling is possible only in a country that has not existed for 25 years. And in the modern Russian Federation, the condition in the worst case is escaped with a fine.

[Alex_Gazenvagen]

Well, okay.
I have a friend of the company commanders, forced to return to the cashier 3 rubles 75 kopecks for the fact that he gave caramel to the demobilization extra day. They were already fired according to documents. To establish this fact of theft, a commission of 6 colonels worked.

[Zubr]

General special. system of Russia, won a tender for a contractor for a good rollback in 270 million rubles. Good job guys. with ... u ... such.
1. Vasiliev - presumably 3 billion
2. Governor of Sakhalin - 1 billion
3. Governor of Vladivostok - 1 billion
4. Colonel of the Main Directorate of the TFR - 8 billion
5. These contractors are 3 billion.
For example:
In Moscow, they launched the reserve substation of the substation Belorusskaya 220 kilovolt- \ 20 \ 10 kilovolt, with a total capacity of 360 Megawat. estimated cost of 2.6 billion rubles
With this money it was possible to produce:
1. This is ~ 266 million $ !!!
2. This is an 33 tank T-14 armata
Where does the special department, the military prosecutor’s office, look?
And I suspect that this is just what crawled out; I’m now not even able to imagine what real damage was done to defense capability.

[Kudrevkn]

"And what will the head of the transport department tell us?" "Have they messed up something at the conservatory"? Have you forgotten about Vostochny? Avtodor? Grew up space? "Ural subpolar"? Far Eastern Regional Development Ministry? With a dozen "governors" of acting and former (heads of regions)? Now I believe that the “hunt” is open for mayors of million-plus cities (vice mayors), for example, Ufa, Yekaterinburg, N. Novgorod, Novosibirsk or Chelyabinsk? Stay tuned, gentlemen! Happy viewing!

[Black5Raven]

Have any of them been jailed or scolded and released?

[Cobra77]

How is that? But what about an effective private owner? What about the new privatization?

Then our alternatively gifted citizens talk about repression in the Stalin-era Union. But what to do with such effective managers as in the article? How to Vasilyev on parole? Or as Serdyukov’s amnesty in the state. corporation in top managers?

[uragan114]

"" Dmitry Bushmanov and Alexey Ecker were arrested in March last year, they do not admit their guilt. ""
And if the "kuzhozhiki" put in the porch doors ??

[3vs]

To shoot, on .. y!

[midshipman]

In 1987, I had to develop Rogachevo and Yelizovo airdromes for special tasks (6 SI MCI USSR). Estimates were made, responsible executors were appointed. But first, I personally visited the airdromes with specialists. Therefore, he owned what should be done and when. The enterprises manufactured the equipment and the brigades mounted everything on time. Not a single extra penny was asked.
I recall how my former director of NII-33 S. Spirov mounted the Far East station in besieged Leningrad in September 1942. They also had no idea to steal something or to increase the cost of work. The execution relied on it. I have the honor.

[Bersaglieri]

Kickbacks, kickbacks ... 20 percent, yes.
Vorje ...

[Sernik]

For such tricks, Comrade Beria would leave them forever, in permafrost. Is there something wrong? For these cartoons, they will serve 5 years and will be released on parole.

[razved]

For theft in the defense sector, it takes about 25 years with the confiscation of property.

[proud]

As usual!

[valentina-makanalina]

Return the DEATH PENALTY to TREASURES !!!

[Zomanus]

Punish revealingly. You can’t even go to jail,
just confiscate them to cowards from them, their families and relatives,
if they even spent a penny from stolen on themselves.
Although, as for me, the chain can reach the top of the Moscow Region,
but who will investigate ...

[Kenneth]

In the Moscow region, they say that not poor people work at all.

[Kenneth]

And where are the names of the generals on the part of the customer. The contractor cannot steal until it agrees with the representative of the customer. And we seem to cover the army.

[Niccola Mack]

using his old ties in the military department, to influence their outcome, and Dmitry Bushmanov, in turn, with the help of fake documents was supposed to create the appearance of allegedly ongoing work in the Arctic. ”

The conversation here recently was on the forum about "treasury escort" - and so with this escort, the ears for hanging noodles would simply change to "treasury".
And the rest is still the same !!!

[Vitalson]

It probably never ends. It's time to start shooting.

[7 poplar]

so it is necessary, for example, from the theft of 50000 rubles to enter Shot and EVERYTHING, as they leave to grandmother! and NO CORRUPTION !!!

[commbatant]

the highest measure of social responsibility - the execution of Article 58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1926