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Underwater launch systems: how to get out of the water into orbit or into space? (Ending)

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Continuation of the first part:
Underwater launch systems: how to get out of water into orbit or into space?
-> A brief preface, an explanation of the second part (who is not interested under the spoiler, can not read)
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Sea rocket-space system "Surf"



For a more complete coverage of the market of low-orbit apparatuses, a study of new rocket launcher schemes was carried out. One of them was a booster rocket, created by project "Surf".

The Surf rocket uses technologies previously developed by SLBMs: in the first stage, the RSM-52 rocket engine, the second and third stages use the RSM-54 rocket propulsion systems (P-29RMU2 "Sineva" (START code RSM-54, according to NATO classification - SS -N-23 Skiff)), the fourth sustainer stage and the fifth final stage are also based on the RSM-54 rocket technology.



The video clip dedicated to the "best in the world (in terms of energy and mass characteristics)" ballistic missile RSM-54 "Sineva":



The main carrier: submarines of the project 667 BDRM. Video launch missile SLUB "Sineva" / Missile launch R-29RMU "Sineva".

The energy capabilities of the Priboy missile satisfy the upper range of low-orbit payloads. According to preliminary estimates, at launch from the equatorial areas, it displays the payload, the mass of which (in kg), depending on the height of the orbit, is given in the table.

Underwater launch systems: how to get out of the water into orbit or into space? (Ending)


These capabilities of the Priboy launch vehicle make its development promising.

In 1993, a new impulse appeared in the works on “Surf”, which, firstly, accelerated the course of work and, secondly, supplemented the previously considered options for launching from a ground stand and a mobile craft. Such an impulse was the proposal of the American company Investors in Sea Launches, Inc. (President - Admiral Thomas H. Murer) to develop a commercial launch vehicle launching directly from the sea surface in very short terms to launch spacecraft of up to 2000 mass into space. 2500 kg. The water surface is a universal launching pad, which from many points of view provides the best starting system parameters. However, the practical implementation of such a start method is associated with serious technical difficulties.

The joint Russian-American commercial project was based on the “Surf” launch vehicle, in connection with which the project retained the name “Surf”. An agreement was reached on the development within three months of a conceptual engineering project for the rocket and the system as a whole. The design bureau was faced with the task of solving, in a short time, complex technical problems with the launch vehicle, its transportation to the launch site, the assembly of the rocket and its launch from the water surface. Since the rocket cannot be operated on the ground in assembled form, it was suggested to load it in parts on a ship and already on the ship to complete the assembly and testing of all systems, i.e. the ship had to be turned into an assembly shop. As a result of preliminary studies, two types of ships were selected: the landing ship of the “Ivan Rogov” type or the container ship of the “Sevmorput” type (Fig. 2, 3).



These ships with the necessary modifications will be able to take on board the components of several missiles, the equipment of the complex and the necessary technological and assembly equipment of the missiles.



To implement the proposed technology, it was necessary to develop a unique unit - a transport and launch platform, which has special devices for loading individual rocket parts and their subsequent assembly. Each of the devices, in addition to fastening and damping elements, has three degrees of freedom, which is necessary for centering the individual parts of the rocket relative to each other when assembling into uniform structures.

A general idea of ​​the launch pad is given in fig. 4. The rocket assembled on this platform can be transported by ship to almost any point of the World Ocean.



During the research, a large number of options to ensure the necessary positive buoyancy of the rocket were considered: from pressurized elastic balloon balloons to special sliding catamaran devices. As a result, a fairly simple solution was found: since the payload in any case had to be protected with a fairing, it partially solved this problem (free air volume under the fairing). On the other hand, ensuring the launch of a rocket engine in water, the design bureau came up with the need to install a special pallet in the tail section of the rocket, which, together with the front protective fairing, guaranteed the necessary positive buoyancy of the rocket.

It was necessary to choose the best way to evacuate the prepared rocket from the ship to the water surface. Of the many options for further analysis and choice left two.

The first method - for the ship "Sevmorput" (Fig. 5). The assembled rocket on the transport and launch platform was fed to the tilter installed in the stern of the ship, the platform on the tilter was fastened. The tilter transferred the platform from a horizontal position to a vertical one and then lowered the platform with a special elevator to the level of the natural position of the Surf rocket on the water. Later, the rocket was separated from the platform for free navigation on the water surface.

second method - the use of the airlock camera ship type "Ivan Rogov." The airlock, which houses the transport-launch platform with the assembled and prepared rocket, is flooded with sea water. When a certain level of flooding of the airlock chamber is reached, the rocket is separated from the platform (pops up), after which it is evacuated from the ship to the free sea surface with the help of a fusion vessel.



The second method was chosen as the main one.



Russian and foreign experience in the development of missile systems with an underwater launch shows that the launch of the rocket’s power tool at launch is carried out in a certain air volume (or cavity). This volume was organized earlier (with prelaunch preparation) or created directly at the start, i.e. when running individual elements of the propulsion system. This circumstance led to the need to install a special pallet on the stern part of the rocket (Fig. 6), which was already mentioned above. For normal horizontal navigation of the rocket and its subsequent transfer from horizontal to vertical, the volume of the pallet 8 - 15 m³ is sufficient.



To ensure engine start had to seriously complicate the pallet. As a result, on the “Surf” rocket it performs several functions:
- together with the front fairing provides a horizontal rocket floating on the free water surface,
- by filling the ballast tank, the missile is transferred from a horizontal to a vertical position,
- due to the use of the gas generator after the separation of certain parts of the pallet organizes the necessary gas volume, which runs the main engine of the rocket.


Decisions on the launch system and the organization of the launch of the Surf from the water are illustrated in Fig. 7, 8.

A significant number of problematic issues were resolved by the “Priboy” launch vehicle itself. These problems are due to both the features of the rocket’s layout scheme, and the originality of the scheme for its passage and, most importantly, the launch. It is enough to limit the list of these questions:
- development of a system for pressurized rocket stages and interstage (1 and 2) compartments, ensuring the safety of the rocket, the efficiency of the second and third stages engines, and structural strength;
- ensuring tightness of the onboard cable network;
- the creation of a sealed head fairing and its separation system, providing the required acoustic loads on the payload;
- solving the issues of ensuring the operability of the onboard control system of the rocket during operations that were previously absent in the logic of operation (evacuation of the rocket from the airlock of the ship, bringing the rocket into an upright position) performed in autonomous navigation and time components to 10 minutes;
- development of a rocket remote start system.


During the development of the conceptual engineering project, we managed to solve the main technical problems and show the possibility of creating a commercial maritime rocket-space system with fundamentally new schemes of launch vehicle elements, launch system and launch organization.



In the future, the program to create the PR Priboy had to be closed due to lack of funding.



For the same reason, the re-equipment for the NSC space tasks at the Nenoks site, where new versions of SLBMs were previously tested, was discontinued.

Note: for OCR "Priboy" a patent of the Russian Federation RU2543436 "Pseudo simulator of the launch complex" was developed and executed.
The pseudo-simulator of the launch complex, hereinafter referred to as the complex, refers to rocket technology, namely, to military sea-launched launch complexes. The complex is autonomous, secretive, mobile and underwater, provides a launch to ballistic or cruise missiles capable of carrying a nuclear charge or striking elements to suppress anti-missile defense systems. The complex can serve as a beacon for targeting submarines and simulating a submarine.


The disadvantages of the prototype ("Surf") is that the ship "Ivan Rogov" is a military surface landing ship, and the possibility of finding on board of ballistic missiles assumes that its location is being monitored, and, therefore, this ship will be attacked first turn. The rocket evacuation and preparation for launch takes a long time, while the rocket will be relatively close to the ship and, most likely, when attacking the ship, it will be impossible to launch the rocket.

The essence of the invention is that the design of the complex consists of a waterproof module with a transport and launch container with a rocket. The module is moved by cargo, fishing or any other, incl. submarine, hereinafter referred to as ship-transport, in the submarine and surface positions, on the deck or inside the hull of the ship-transport. At the required time, the module is separated from the ship-transport and becomes autonomous. This creates an imitation of a submarine, everything else: the launch complex, the launch of the rocket, the rocket with the head part are real. The head part can carry not only nuclear charge, a feature of the invention is the ability to carry attack elements to destroy the missile defense elements of a potential enemy to protect other warheads, for example, carrying a nuclear charge and released by other launch complexes



On fig.5 - dry cargo ship or any other, mostly not military, vessel 20 transports modules 21 in different ways: on deck, towing for fastening nodes 22 on the vessel’s hull or for 23 cable.



In FIG. 12, a module with an open (inflated) simulator of a submarine 27, deployed 28 antennas, and an open 2 hatch. The complex is in prelaunch position.


Simulator ammunition:


On fig.16 - a scheme where complexes with simulators of submarines 27 provide protection for the 32 warhead from a missile launched by a submarine in a submerged position from the point 33, the coordinates of which are determined by the coordinates of the simulators 27. The 32 warhead flies to the 34 target. The complexes launch rockets so that the head parts of the missiles fly up and canopy on the 29 parachute, 30 glider and 31 balloon over the corresponding 35, 36, 37 areas of the missile defense system at the moment of flight over these sections of the 32 warhead to protect it and combat it.


Truly verb:
In Russian, here at least spare parts from Mercedes give -
as they start collecting, the Kalashnikov assault rifle or tank goes anyway.
/Bearded Soviet anecdote.



It should be noted that in the USSR a similar program was launched as early as August 1964 of the year - the rocket ship designed on the basis of the ice vessel of the 550 project “Aguema” received the working name “Scorpion” (the 909 project):



On board should have been eight PU missiles P-29, and the appearance differed only by the presence of additional antennas. According to the calculations, patrolling the Arctic waters of the Soviet Union, such a vessel could hit its missiles facilities almost throughout the US.



In addition, TsKB-17, already on its own initiative, also designed a rocket launcher disguised as a hydrographic vessel (1111 project, “four stakes”). The first vessels in the series of these projects in 1964 prices of the year would have cost the state budget 18,9 and 15,5 million rubles, respectively.

It’s funny, but the “peacemakers” of the Americans already in 1963 proposed the NATO countries to create a whole flotilla such "ships with a surprise" based on transports of the Mariner type.


/ again "moved out" from the topic /

Sea rocket-space system "Rickshaw"



With the expectation of a long-term perspective, the SRC “KB them. Academician V.P. Makeeva ”together with NPO Energomash, Design Bureau of General Mechanical Engineering, NPO Automation and Instrument Making and the Krasnoyarsk Machine-Building Plant State Enterprise started the development of the Riksha rocket-space complex designed for launching small-class spacecraft — this is the third direction of our space activity.



Analysis of the promising market for space services shows that small and large spacecraft dominate in foreign and Russian space programs, designed for low-orbit communication systems, Earth sounding, research on near-Earth space, and the implementation of space technologies. The growing interest in small spacecraft is largely due to their advantages such as low cost, the speed of creation and deployment, the ability to quickly respond to the latest scientific and technological achievements and market needs.

In order to be most fully demanded in the market for launch vehicles (10 - 15 launches per year), the launch vehicle must ensure the removal of communication satellites (voice messaging) weighing about 800 kg into orbits up to 800 km, observation satellites 350 - 500 kg into orbits with a height of 500 - 800 km, returned satellites with a mass of about 1000 kg into orbits with a height of 350 km.





Small class spacecrafts, due to the variety of tasks they solve, require launching into orbits from equatorial to sun-synchronous. Covering such a wide range of orbital inclinations with stationary complexes from the territory of Russia is problematic. The task can be solved by a transportable complex based on a light-class launch vehicle. In addition, it is necessary to note the recently increased requirements for the environmental safety of rocket and space technology, the cost of its creation and operation. From this point of view, it is very promising to use liquefied natural gas paired with liquid oxygen as an oxidizing agent for launch vehicles as a fuel, which allows:
- to ensure the minimum environmental load on the environment during the fall of spent steps and in emergency situations;
- to achieve high energy and overall mass characteristics of the rocket;
- use liquefied natural gases of other countries - potential consumers, which will increase the market attractiveness of a commercial launch vehicle.


The Rickshaw complex is being developed as a means of launching into near-earth orbits and suborbital trajectories of light-duty spacecraft for various purposes from any pre-defined land and sea areas.

The main idea of ​​the development of the Rickshaw complex is maximum satisfaction of the needs of launch customers. On this basis, the complex is being built in a transportable design, which allows realizing a wide range of orbital inclinations with optimal energy costs for removing payloads and using the territory of the countries-customers (at their request) for launching. For the Rickshaw complex, two versions of launch systems with unified subsystems are provided (Fig. 2):



- stationary pre-fabricated launch complex with maximum factory readiness of the systems and using the infrastructure of the existing Russian landfills (Svobodny, Plesetsk) and foreign landfills;
- marine complex using retrofit large fish trawlers project 1288.


The launch vehicle incorporates two marching stages. Depending on the tasks it can be equipped with an apogee propulsion system. On the march steps, modifications of the same rocket engine are used. At the first stage, a package of six engines is assembled, at the second stage one engine is installed. The fuel tanks of the first and second stages are all-welded wafer construction made of aluminum-magnesium alloy. Dividing bottoms are single-layer. The manufacture of such structures has been mastered by the Krasnoyarsk Machine-Building Plant. The onboard equipment of the control system is placed in a sealed instrument compartment with the possibility of its replacement at the starting position. The missile control system is inertial with correction by external reference points (Navstar and Glonass systems). The payload is under the fairing, the design of which provides its dust and moisture protection and has hatches for supplying pneumatic and hydraulic lines to the payload systems and making electrical connections with ground equipment. The volume of the payload zone 9 m³.



The design of the rocket, the length of which is 24,5 m, diameter 2,4 m, starting weight 64 t, introduced a number of original technical solutions (lack of inter-tank and interstage compartments, placement of engines in fuel tanks), which proved themselves in ballistic missiles of submarines of several generations and allow: reduce the passive mass of the rocket and thereby increase its power supply; simplify the process of cooling the engine before starting; improve rocket stiffness parameters as an object of stabilization; use existing vehicles to transport the launch vehicle; reduce the size of the rocket and vehicles.

In fig. 3 shows the power capabilities of the launch vehicle:



The Rickshaw-1 launch vehicle can output both foreign space vehicles and a significant part of modern and promising Russian-made vehicles. When creating the Riksha-1 launch vehicle, modernization opportunities are laid. Thus, equipping the rocket with two side accelerators based on first-stage tanks ensures that a payload weighing up to 4 tons is put into near-earth orbit.



Afterword:
It is a pity (from an engineering and economic point of view) that these rocket and space systems were not fully implemented.
There were three reasons for this:
1. Ecological component:
"Saga of rocket fuels, the reverse side of the coin"
I can imagine how farts were torn "Greenpeace" и Bellona, and the latter would have howled like a beluga from such a perspective.
Still, the "wet start" of the SLBM is not environmentally friendly enough.
2. The collapse of the USSR and the reduction in the need to put into orbit a large number of military and civilian satellites.
3. Some satellites and components can be launched exclusively from the manufacturer / customer start.
- The law of high-tech export conditions from 1979;
- Military items controlled by the United States List of Armaments (US Munitions List)
- Dual-use goods, the list of which is determined by the US Trade Control List (Commercial Control List).


And, as is known, only the specialists of the manufacturer prepare the launch vehicle for launch.
"To give in the hands of" specialists of one of the most formidable enterprises of the military-industrial complex of the USSR high technologies - not everyone will decide on this.
... can not only everyone, very few people can do it.
[3]
4. Big competition from Russian and Ukrainian manufacturers of rocket technology.




In fact, dumping themselves and themselves to the detriment.


Everything I have explained explains why the “GRTS Makeev” celebrates not only the days: the birth of the modern Russian rocketry, the machine builder, the rocket forces and artillery, the submariner and the day of the chemist, but quite well-deserved 12 of April, Miass rocket designers consider their professional holiday.





With what I heartily and congratulations in advance.





Original sources and quotes:
[1]Rock and roll under the Kremlin. Book 4. Another spy / Koretsky DA
[2]USSR foreign policy in the second half of the 1980-ies. / Voloshina V. Yu., Bykova A. G. Soviet period of the Russian stories (1917-1993)
[3]Vitaly Vladimirovich Klitschko - quote.
* I didn’t write anything new, I just put together and added photos and videos.
* Reconfine technical terms and good text, no point.
Basically everything is borrowed from:
SRC "KB them. Academician V.P. Makeeva "I.I. Velichko, N.A. Obukhov, G.G. Full, A.P. Shalnev "SEA ROCKET-SPACE SYSTEM"
Press Service of the SRC "KB them. Academician V.P. Makeeva
"Launch vehicles based on ballistic missile submarines"
© Ivan Tikhiy 2002 year
Photos of video, graphics and links:
TV channel STAR
www.miasskiy.ru
www.navsource.org
www.makeyev.msk.ru
www.img-fotki.yandex.ru
www.niskgd.ru
www.cableman.ru
www.habrastorage.org
www.studfiles.ru
www.ntpo.com
www.rosatomflot.ru
www.navsource.narod.ru
www.arms-expo.ru
www.fishki.net
www.makeyev.ru
www.topwar.ru
www.zonwar.ru
www.igordiksa.com
www.sovtime.ru
www.yaplakal.com
www.militaryrussia.ru
www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/slbm
www.directory.eoportal.org
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  1. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 16 March 2017 15: 44 New
    10
    Thank you, I read your Labor with interest.
  2. A1845
    A1845 16 March 2017 15: 50 New
    +4
    Thank you for the abundance of material! good yes and it is written with humor
    it would be nice to hear another assessment of the author of all these plans - to dismantle the Northern Sea Route, etc.
    maybe not just ended the financing?
    1. opus
      16 March 2017 16: 28 New
      +6
      Quote: A1845
      maybe not just ended the financing?


      The nuclear lighter carrier Sevmorput (ALV) was designed back in 1978, laid down in 1984, and left the stocks of the closed Zaliv plant in Kerch in 1988. As part of the program of transition from “focal” to integrated programs for the development of the North this ship and its twin (which with the collapse of the USSR so and was not built) should have taken upon themselves the provision of year-round navigation along the Northern Sea Route.

      What is it, do not keep it; lose cry

      / Big Explanatory Phraseological Dictionary of Michelson (1825 - 1908)

      We have nothing to convert now .....


      2016: According to the press service of the Atomflot FSUE, on May 6 of the 2016 of the year, the 10081 project nuclear lighter carrier (alv) Sevmorput left the port of Murmansk in the direction of Kotelny Island. This is the first voyage in the last ten years of the world's only transport ship with a nuclear power plant.

      The nuclear lighter carrier does not have a speed limit when moving in coarse ice up to 1,5m thick
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 16 March 2017 16: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: opus
        The nuclear lighter carrier does not have a speed limit when moving in coarse ice up to 1,5m thick

        Yeah ...
        Slippers on the floor - and drove on the ice, albeit beaten ....
        But who saw what is hidden under water? Swimming in ice is a science.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 16 March 2017 16: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: opus
        We have nothing to convert now .....

        Not everything is so sad. http://polit-mir.ru/arktiku-prikroyut-boevye-ledo
        koly-3536.html

        combat icebreakers.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 16 March 2017 17: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Amurets
          Not everything is so sad.

          Or a similar handsome man. http://24ri.ru/down/open/novoe-ledokolnoe-sudno-s
          nabzhenija.html
      3. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 17 March 2017 01: 02 New
        +4
        Anton, great article. Thank! hi
        Regarding the Kerch Gulf, for the last three years, unfortunately, I have not noticed a special movement, and this is where the unique dock is located.
  3. Amurets
    Amurets 16 March 2017 16: 07 New
    +2
    / again "moved out" from the topic /
    Anton, didn’t move anything. If the following was somehow described in the slightest degree, then I only caught a glimpse of the “Surf hybrid”. Thank! Very interesting. Of course it is a pity that such interesting projects were closed.
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 17 March 2017 00: 24 New
      +6
      Quote: Amurets
      Anton, didn’t move anything. If the following was somehow described in the slightest degree, then I only caught a glimpse of the “Surf hybrid”. Thank!

      ... joining ... great stuff ... reading pleasure ... hi
      P.S. ... oh ... Anton Batkovich .. "Northern Sea Route" in the ranks ...
      On December 1, 2015, the updated nuclear-powered vessel, having completed sea trials, moored at the pier in Murmansk.
      ... and, considering that it was built on the Gulf Shipyard in the city of Kerch ... just not to jinx it based on:
      Suddenly, it turned out that Russia has ambitious plans in the Arctic related to the development of the Pavlovsk lead-zinc ore deposit on Novaya Zemlya. The Ministry of Defense announced plans to build up military groups in this region, for which it is necessary to restore all the infrastructure abandoned since Soviet times, to revive airfields and ports on the Novosibirsk islands and Franz Josef land. Under all these tasks, it is necessary to carry a huge amount of cargo, therefore, a large bulk carrier with a maximum power reserve is urgently needed.
      .
  4. Talgat
    Talgat 16 March 2017 17: 08 New
    +2
    Probably the main thing here. that you can later recoup the costs of the BRDM

    Nuclear deterrence is very important - so that the aggressor refrains from aggression


    But if it will be possible later to return part of the funds with the help of sea launches - then this is only wonderful
  5. pimen
    pimen 16 March 2017 18: 42 New
    +1
    well, everything is very sound, although why such delights - just assign a decommissioned boat
    shark would probably fit
    1. opus
      16 March 2017 19: 24 New
      +5
      Quote: pimen
      shark would probably fit

      very difficult access to the MON in the starting glass of the submarine.
      Yes, and we are talking about ICBMs with rocket engines. and the P-39 / Bark TTRD.
      1. pimen
        pimen 16 March 2017 19: 57 New
        0
        Why access to MON in the starting glass?
        well let it be a dolphin if cheaper
        1. opus
          16 March 2017 20: 51 New
          +6
          Why access to MON in the starting glass?

          calculation and input of the flight mission in the process of prelaunch;
          entering meteorology data before launch
          sometimes it is required to cool PN, and sometimes heat
          spin gyros, precession
          power supply (so as not to burn the BIP)
          Yes, a lot of things
          here are the "connectors"


          and then when the mast leaves

          Quote: pimen
          well let it be a dolphin if cheaper

          it is described in 1 chamti
          https://topwar.ru/110679-sistemy-podvodnogo-start
          a-kak-popast-iz-pod-vody-na-orbitu-ili-v-kosmos.h
          tml
          1. pimen
            pimen 17 March 2017 10: 59 New
            +2
            Just looking at such elaborate projects, you might think that the problem is ripe and overripe. But in reality, what is really working is not used either.
            1. opus
              17 March 2017 11: 32 New
              +1
              Quote: pimen
              But in reality, what is really working is not used either.


              There were three reasons for this:
              at the end of the article is described.
              we messed up everything (perestroika and 90)
              no one is so keen on the launch point (latitude) as ours (of the missile powers)


              Baikonur (45,6 deg. N and 63,3 deg. E).
              Orbits: minimum inclination - 50 deg., Maximum - 99 deg.

              Plesetsk (62,7 city degrees N and 40,3 city degrees).
              Orbits: the minimum inclination is 62,4 degrees, the maximum until recently was 83 degrees, but in 2000, 87 degrees and 98 degrees were mastered.
              Free (51,5 deg. N and 138,5 deg. E)
              Orbits (in theory): the minimum inclination is 51 degrees, the maximum is 110 degrees, in practice, so far only 97 degrees.
              Kapustin Yar (48,5 deg. N and 45,8 deg. E)
              Orbits: minimum inclination - 48,4 deg., Maximum - 50,7 deg.


              vs:


              Americans use retired ICBMs as LVs: titanium (HGM-25 Titan I), atlas (Convair SM-65 Atlas), minotaur (MX LGM-118)



              and then they build new ones
              And the UGM-133A Trident II (D5) will also be used as a light class LV.

              We destroy or decay with us.
              1. A1845
                A1845 17 March 2017 12: 42 New
                0
                Quote: opus
                we slap everything

                It's clear
                and the Americans on the titans launch successfully, which is also understandable (did we slap it here?)
                here’s what’s not clear - is loading a load with SLBMs cost-effective taking into account all the troubles?
                1. opus
                  17 March 2017 13: 28 New
                  +3
                  and here we slap it?

                  we cut and burned

                  Quote: A1845
                  Is load transfer with SLBMs cost-effective taking into account all the troubles?

                  - Do you need to train the starting team? not on a mass-dimensional layout, but on a real one. I have to!
                  -the guaranteed storage period has expired: bring the manufacturer into the factory and dispose of either live firing (live not into orbit: agree + quota). Is it worth the money? Yes.
                  and then the utilization and training of personnel + the withdrawal of PN (one's own or for money but someone else's)
                  - we do not have cosmodromes south of 40g of northern latitude: only French Guiana or sea launch
                  -satellites are "nanonizing" and are now waiting in line for what big brother they can cling to.
                  and here and now.


                  Nanosatellite Sprite
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 17 March 2017 13: 39 New
                    +8
                    Anton, you are right with the economy. Could this not only minimize losses, but also make a profit.
                  2. A1845
                    A1845 17 March 2017 14: 38 New
                    +1
                    Quote: opus
                    or sea launch

                    he, too, has been idle for a couple of years
                    Quote: opus
                    satellites "nanize"

                    there is a tendency, all the more reasonable for emergency withdrawal of loads into orbit
                    1. opus
                      17 March 2017 15: 02 New
                      +2
                      Quote: A1845
                      he, too, has been idle for a couple of years

                      He was not on our finances.
                      And again, for the MS-NADO it was necessary to do the Zenit2L launch vehicle (Ukraine)
                      And here everything is ready, and the defense enterprises are LOADED, and they are not releasing pans.
                      You look at what time is described: not now, but THEN.
                      in other matters, this topic was described by me in an article: Above-water launch, the Selena project (somehow, I don’t remember the name myself).
                      Probably will be published soon.
                      Quote: A1845
                      for the purpose of emergency withdrawal of the load into orbit

                      this is generally important: cigarettes on the ISS are over, there is no stall. 30 minutes and already there wink
  6. Dashout
    Dashout 28 May 2017 09: 15 New
    +5
    I am proud of my homeland!
    1. omit
      omit 23 January 2018 14: 00 New
      0
      Dashout
      "I am proud of my homeland!"
      You can be proud of your achievements, or the achievements of your children or students. The rest has nothing to do with you. hi
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