Automatic low-pulse cartridges caliber 5,45 mm

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Automatic low-pulse cartridges caliber 5,45 mmSoviet weapon Under the low-impulse patron, it was a materialized expression of the spirit of intense rivalry in the military field between the Warsaw Pact and the NATO bloc during the cold war. The emergence of a new "ammunition-weapon" complex from the main enemy demanded an urgent and effective response from our side. Possessing impeccable reliability, the Kalashnikov AKM 7,62-mm assault rifles, however, did not fully meet the increasing demands of the Armed Forces on the likelihood of hitting the target due to increased dispersion when firing bursts, as well as the large steepness of the trajectories of bullets. This was due to the fact that the high recoil impulse 7,62-mm of the automatic cartridge of the 1943 of the year (0,78 kgf / s) did not allow even the modernized Kalashnikov to achieve high accuracy of the automatic fire, especially when shooting from unstable positions. For a long time, domestic specialists conducted intensive search for ways to increase the combat effectiveness of the Kalashnikov assault rifle. Studies have shown that the accuracy of automatic firing is determined not only by the ballistic pulse of the cartridge and the recoil energy of the weapon, but also by the design characteristics of the sample itself (mass, moment of inertia, location of the centers of mass of the weapon and the moving parts of the automation), as well as dynamic characteristics moving parts).

In the Soviet Union, the expediency of switching a hand-held automatic weapon to a smaller caliber than the existing 7,62 mm was scientifically grounded by V. G. Fedorov already in 1939, when he wrote that the range of a direct shot of an “intermediate” cartridge should be no less than that of a standard rifle cartridge. To reduce the mass-dimensional characteristics of the cartridges, he proposed to reduce their caliber to 6 – 6,25 mm. Back in 1945, V. G. Fedorov in his work “Study of further ways to improve the effectiveness of small arms firing” proved that the development of automatic small arms would be most promising if it developed towards a decrease in the caliber of cartridges. However, the official line pursued at that time by the leadership of the USSR People's Commissariat of Armaments and the Main Artillery Directorate of the USSR People's Commissariat of Defense, aimed at working out a set of small arms designed to use an 7,62-mm "intermediate" cartridge, did not take into account the conclusions of Fedorov. Along with subjective factors, this was also due to objective reasons - in the Soviet Union in the middle of the 1940-ies there was no technical and technological base for manufacturing small-caliber ammunition cartridges, and the weapons themselves.

Still, the very idea of ​​creating a more effective ammunition-weapon complex was not stowed away. By the beginning of the 1960-s, domestic gunsmiths had gained some experience in creating promising systems of automatic infantry weapons, consisting of an automatic rifle and a single machine gun. They were developed under the experienced powerful 7,62-mm single automatic machine-gun cartridge design S. I. Vetoshkina. In this direction, the Soviet designers moved in parallel to our opponents, whose bitter negative experience was taken into account when conducting subsequent work on promising small arms systems in the USSR.

The US armed forces, only recently re-armed with 7,62-mm M-14 automatic rifles, developed under the powerful NATO rifle-and-machine gun cartridge 7,62 x51 of NATO, had already reaped the sad fruits of such a hasty decision. And this, in turn, made the US military command already in 1957 take a decision in principle to start developing automatic weapons for a low-momentum cartridge, which was thus a turning point in all subsequent stories modern small arms. To a similar conclusion about the low efficiency of new ammunition of normal rifle caliber came after large R & D, Soviet designers. The high level of technical solution of new domestic cartridges and the certain reduction in recoil momentum achieved at the same time did not allow to solve the main task assigned to the new “ammunition - weapon” complex: to increase the effective range by one and a half times in relation to the standard range of small arms, calculated under 7,62-mm automaton cartridge arr. 1943 of the year.

In addition, research was conducted in the Soviet Union on the pattern of dispersion of bullets depending on recoil pulses, muzzle compensators, etc. The development of new ammunition caliber 4,5 mm and 6,5 mm was carried out, various designs of non-classical bullets and weapons for them were studied.

Thus, in the 1960 – 1962 years, the engineers and designers of the SRI-61, V. P. Gryazev, A. G. Shipunov, D. I. Shiryaev, I. Kasyanov, O. P. Kravchenko, and V. A. Petrov, created low-impulse cartridges with subcaliber feathered (arrow-shaped) bullets with leading elements (plastic pallets) detached in flight. DI Shiryaev developed for this cartridge a prototype of the automatic machine AO-27, relatively light and steady when fired by automatic fire. The large flatness of the arrow-shaped bullet trajectory to some extent compensated for the low accuracy of the battle. However, the results of accuracy, shown when firing from AO-27, turned out to be much lower than planned, so all work on similar weapons was stopped. But this did not mean a complete rejection of the idea, since it was able to increase the effectiveness of individual automatic weapon fire, and after a few years a new modified rifle cartridge with a arrow-shaped bullet appeared, designed by VN Dvoryaninov, an engineer of the same research institute-61, for a rifle machine gun Goryunova SGM and the Dragunov SVD sniper rifle. Similar studies were also widely conducted in the United States, but the negative results shown by these munitions during the tests forced the Americans to curtail all work in this direction.

Simultaneously with the failure, which ended work on the creation of a new domestic “ammunition-weapon” complex, the leadership of the USSR Ministry of Defense receives information about the new AR 15 high-performance rifles (XM 16) developed for the low-pulse cartridge 5,56 x45 and 193 adopted for pilot operation in american army. Soon, in the hands of Soviet military specialists, there were fighting trophies from South Vietnam - the weapons and ammunition itself. And these facts made the military seriously think that the enemy is ahead of us in this area of ​​military-technical research, since the Americans in 1961 had already conducted the final stage of military tests of a weapon designed for a cartridge with a reduced recoil momentum. While in the Soviet Union only recently, the 7,62-mm AKM assault rifle, which was already inferior to the perspective AR 15 rifle in some parameters, was adopted.

The evolution of small arms led to the conclusion that while maintaining the classical scheme that uses powder charge as a source of energy for throwing bullets, reducing the caliber will increase the initial velocity of the bullets. Thus, it will be possible to achieve the flatness of the trajectory of the bullets, reduce the mass of the weapon itself and increase the ammunition wearable by the shooter (without increasing the total weight load). The use of new designs of bullets and cartridges, new materials of the cores of bullets made it possible to provide the required damaging properties of bullets of reduced caliber. At the same time, theoretical calculations have shown that the characteristics of the 5,6-mm cartridge are different for different combat conditions. In close combat, as a rule, offensive, when firing from unstable positions at short distances, bullets of this caliber have a maximum penetrating effect; therefore, to reduce the effectiveness of hitting targets, reduction of dispersion was of primary importance, which could be achieved both by decreasing the power of the cartridge and by reducing the momentum recoil, but at the same time it influenced the decrease in the initial velocity of the bullet. In defensive combat, shooting was carried out at much longer ranges and mainly from stable positions, therefore dispersion here is much smaller, and the decisive factor was the flattening of the trajectory and the penetrating action, which could only be achieved by increasing the power of the cartridge. The contradiction between the increase in the initial speed of the bullet and its mass and the decrease in these characteristics for different combat conditions forced the Soviet gunsmiths to look for the best option.

Therefore, in the 1961 year in the Soviet Union, the specialists of the Scientific Research Institute-61 began complex research on reducing the recoil momentum of weapons and developing a new 5,6-mm cartridge with a high initial speed based on the re-pressed sleeve 7,62-mm automatic cartridge mod. 1943 of the year.

The first stage of research work, which the Soviet Union embarked on in 1963, was aimed at creating a new ammunition-weapon complex on peremovane AKM automatic rifles of 5,6 caliber mm. As a result of the research, it turned out that the new 5,6-mm cartridge had a smaller recoil momentum on 35 percent than the 7,62-mm cartridge mod. 1943, and this allowed 1,8 times to reduce the recoil energy of the weapon. The research artillery test range of the USSR Ministry of Defense in the Vsevolozhsk district of the Leningrad region, analyzing the possibilities of using new, the most optimal design schemes for small arms, in its conclusion indicated that “the most effective means of improving the accuracy of automatic strikes when shooting from unstable positions is to reduce the recoil momentum when fired.

An important factor contributing to this conclusion of our military experts was the fact that the AR 15 rifle exceeded the AKM assault rifle not only in one of its main parameters - accuracy of combat, but also in terms of the probability of hits. Thus, the most realistic way of increasing the combat effectiveness of individual automatic weapons could be the adoption of a new intermediate cartridge with a reduced recoil impulse and the development of a next-generation submachine gun for it.

As a result of long-term work by a group of specialists - ammunition workers of TsNIITOCHMASH (Klimovsk, Moscow Region) under the leadership of V. M. Sabelnikov composed of L. I. Bulavskaya, B. V. Semina, M. E. Fedorova, P. F. Sazonova, V. I. Volkova, V.A. Nikolayeva, E.E. Zimin, P.S. Korolev and others. A completely new domestic 5,6-mm low-impulse cartridge with a steel core bullet and with a length of 39 mm was created, which was originally named "13 MJV." Subsequently, when the designation of the caliber was adopted, corresponding to the real diameter of the bore through the rim fields - 5,45 mm, the cartridge received the GRAU index - 7 Н6.

Designers managed to achieve with a smaller bullet weight (3,42 g instead of 7,9 g for AKM and 3,56 g for AR 15) reducing the maximum permissible level of recoil momentum of automatic cartridges (0,49 kgf / s against 0,78 and 0,58 kgf / s, respectively) and at the same time increasing the range direct shot, i.e. the range at which the height of the trajectory is equal to the height of the target (440 m instead of 350 and 426 m, respectively), which, by the way, exceeded the similar characteristic of the 7,62-mm rifle cartridge mod. 1908 of the year. The peculiarity of his bullet was that the steel core 5,45-mm cartridge 7 H6 had a lead shirt, and the bullet shell was steel, clad with tampacom. Such a device of bullets provided its better durability and greater breakdown effect than that of 5,56 x45 M.193 cartridges. The excellent aerodynamic shape of the bullet of the new Soviet 5,45-mm cartridge contributed to its high ballistic performance (initial speed 900 m / s). In addition, its design was similar to the 7,62-mm bullet taken from a single automatic-machine-gun cartridge. It also had a head space, which, along with the optimally chosen rifling pitch for this ammunition, provided the small-caliber bullet with the same 7,62-mm bullet of the cartridge. 1943 year slaughter on the entire range of direct shot. Only by the end of the 1960-s were the recommendations of VG Fedorov finally realized, which over the years before 30 had defended his point of view on the development of intermediate small-caliber cartridges.

Improvement of the most widespread type of small arms of the Soviet army - Kalashnikov assault rifles was largely determined by the successful development of new 5,45-mm assault rifles. For shooting from the AK 74 AK, 5,45-mm low-impulse cartridges mod. 1974 of the year with steel liners:
- with an ordinary bullet with a steel core (PS),
- with a tracer bullet (T),
- with a reduced speed bullet (CS).

For imitation of shooting, blank cartridges were used (initially - without a bullet, and later - with a plastic bullet), which were automatically fired using a special sleeve, screwed onto the muzzle of the barrel, instead of the muzzle-compensator brake.

With the initial speed 900 m / s of the AK 74, the bullet received the rotation speed 4500 revolutions per second, and the RPK 74 with the initial speed 960 m / s - 4530 revolutions per second). This ensured a high stability of the bullet on the flight, almost equivalent to the stability of the bullet of the NATO 5,56 cartridge (adopted to supply the armies of the North Atlantic bloc only in the 1980 year). To increase the striking effect in manpower, the bullet layout was chosen so that the bullet in flight was “on the verge of stability” and lost stability when it entered a denser environment.

The new 5,45-mm cartridge 7 Н6 with a flat trajectory made it possible to increase the range of a direct shot at the growth figure from 525 (from AKM) to 625 m (from AK 74). The sighting range of 5,45-mm machine guns (machine guns) was 1000 m. The effective range of ground targets from the machine gun (compared to AKM) increased to 500 m, from a machine gun - to 600 m; on airplanes, helicopters and parachutists - from a machine gun and a machine gun - to 500 m.

Concentrated fire on ground group targets can be fired from machine guns and light machine guns at a distance of up to 1000 m. The direct shot range of the 74 AK machine gun was: for the chest figure - 440 m, for the traveling figure - 625 m; in the RPK 74 – 460 and 640 light machine gun (respectively).

However, as compared with AKM, the 74 automatic rifle reduced the range of slaughter action of the bullet from 1500 to 1350 m, that is, the ratio between the range of slaughter and effective range decreased from 3,75 to 2,7 times. Dispersion when shooting AK 74 in short bursts from stable positions (lying with the stop or standing in the trench) at a distance of up to 800 m began to make: the total dispersion deviation in height total - 0,48 m, side total - 0,64 m. Reducing the weight of the cartridge allowed the soldier to increase 100 caliber cartridges 7,62 mm to 165 cartridges 5,45 mm caliber cartridges without increasing the mass of the weapon. Increasing the initial speed of the bullet, flattening the trajectory, reducing the recoil impulse allowed to increase the combat effectiveness of the 5,45-mm assault rifle 74 AK in 1,2 – 1,6 times in comparison with the 7,62-mm AKM assault rifle. Bullet steel 7 N6 cartridge core is fired from the AK 74 / LMG RPK74 provide penetration 5-mm steel sheet (when 80-90 percent penetrated) at a distance 350 m, steel helmet (helmet) - on 800 m range staffing domestic army body armor Zh86 – 5 - on 550 m.

However, the work on improving the ammunition-weapon complex in the Soviet Union did not end there. New trends in military affairs, as well as the military exploitation by the Soviet army in Afghanistan, 5,45-mm Kalashnikov assault rifles AK 74 led to the need to seriously modernize both the weapon and the 5,45-mm cartridge. Extensive use of personal armor in the armies of many countries (in particular, body armor) in the 1980-ies showed that their defeat when firing from machine guns is not guaranteed. Further development of personal protective equipment, the use of body armor with plates made of durable titanium alloys dramatically reduced the effectiveness of the 7 H6 bullet with heat-strengthened core due to the imperfect shape of the core, which is not able to penetrate the titanium alloy plate even at close distances. Therefore, Soviet gunsmiths had to look for new ways to increase the penetration of bullets of low-pulse automatic cartridges. Already in 1986, the penetration effect of 5,45-mm cartridges was significantly increased due to the use of heat-strengthened core of increased hardness 7 Н6 M in the bullet design: the penetration distance of protected targets, in particular steel helmets (helmets), grew from 800 to 960 m, armor with titanium plates from 20 to 200 m. From the beginning of the 1990-ies, almost simultaneously with the adoption of the 5,45-mm modernized AK 74 M automatic rifle (in 1991), ammunition with new bullets with increased penetration rate is being used, complementing the infantry’s weapon system with the newly developed automatic weapon. So, in 1992, the core was once again refined, making it more pointed and heavy. With the same initial speed, a bullet of increased breakdown action (PP) with a heat-strengthened core (7 index Х10) now ensured the penetration of a regular Russian army X85-T bullet-proof vest (with 40 percent through penetration) at a range 200 m, and a heavy X95 bulletproof vest-x. 50 m range, while the 5,45-mm 7 H6 M bullet with a steel core penetrated an X85-T body armor only at 90 m, and the X95-K body armor was not provided at all firing ranges. As a result, the 5,45-mm cartridge 7 H10 with a bullet PP at the penetration action is very close to the 7,62-mm rifle cartridge mod. 1908 of the year, and their effectiveness in penetration of obstacles in comparison with the bullet of the cartridge 7 H6 increased 1,84 times. However, the provision of a given level of direct shot and punching action required an increase in the power of the 5,45-mm cartridge, which in a certain way affected the increased impulse of its recoil and a sufficiently large dispersion of bullets when shooting AK 74. In addition, the adoption on the supply of a new cartridge with a bullet of increased breakdown action had a reverse side. The life expectancy of the shafts of AK 74 M AK when firing a new cartridge has sharply decreased. Therefore, the designers had to carry out a number of research projects to increase the survivability of the bore. It should be noted that the reserves of 5,45 mm bullet in terms of increasing the effectiveness of hitting obstacles are far from exhausted, work in this direction continues.
At present, the following main versions of 5,45-mm low-pulse automaton cartridges are used in the Russian Armed Forces.

5,45-mm automatic cartridge mod. 1974 of the year with a bullet with a steel core PS (index 7 H6)

Combat cartridges with bullets of all types are produced only with steel, covered with dark green lacquer bottle-shaped sleeve with no protruding flange and groove. The propellant charge is spheroid powder SFO33, with 1989 of the year replaced by CNF30 / 3,69 brand powder.
A pointed bullet with a diameter of 5,65 mm, with an elongated head part with a rear cone without a belt, consists of a steel stamped core (steel StNNXX) with a mass of 10 g; a lead shirt and a bimetallic (steel, clad with tampacom) casing. The lead shirt does not reach the end of the shell, and in the front part of the bullet, between the inner surface of the head part of the shell and the lead shirt there is a cavity of length 1,43 mm, contributing to the displacement of the center of gravity of the bullet somewhat back, which lowers the stability of the bullet when meeting with the target. The edges of the shell in the tail section of the bullet are rolled up with support on the bottom of the core. The bullet is not painted. In all 5 mm caliber ammunition cartridges, except for bullets with PP bullets, red lacquer is used to seal the butt of the bullet with the edge of the cartridge sleeve and the capsule butt, which does not have a distinctive color. Currently not available.

5,45-mm automatic cartridge mod. 1974 of the year with a bullet of increased penetrability PP (index 7 H10)

In the 1992, a new modification of the 5,45-mm automaton cartridge arr. 1974 of the year with a bullet of increased penetrability of PP, developed by the creative team of designers and technologists of the Barnaul machine-tool plant. The bullet of increased penetrability of PP obtained a stamped elongated steel heat strengthened core of greater mass. The core, made of steel 70 (mass 1,72 g) or 75 (mass 1,8 g), has a more streamlined and lively-shaped head, a flat top with a diameter of 1,8 mm and a recess in the bottom center (unlike the PS bullet). The bullet of increased penetrability of PP ensured the penetrability of plates from alloys at a distance of 100 meters - 100 percent and steel plates with a thickness of 14 mm at a distance of 100 meters of at least 80 percents.

5,45-mm assault rifle mod. The 1974 of the year is sealed into a regular wooden cartridge case for 2160 pieces each. In each box are placed two metal sunset boxes, in which 1080 cartridges are laid. There is also a capping option in which packs of cartridges are not placed in steel boxes, but in paper-proof bags (120 cartridges), four packs of 30 cartridges each. At the same time on the wooden box is the inscription "waterproof bags." The closure contains special abbreviated alphanumeric characters. On boxes and boxes containing cartridges with special bullets, an additional colored strip is applied, corresponding to the distinctive color of the cartridge.
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  1. +2
    18 February 2012 09: 16
    Interesting article. In general, the 5,6 caliber was used in the USSR for a long time, these are the so-called "small things" among the people, such as TOZ-8, TOZ-12, etc., but they were used as a sporting and hunting weapon. Well, the cartridge itself was of course low-power, but when firing there was practically no recoil and the sound was quiet.
  2. Splin
    +2
    18 February 2012 09: 34
    And in what other countries of the VD was 5,45 caliber? Like nowhere.
    In the late 90s Mikhail Kalashnikov told the Americans in his History of Weapons that they were to blame for the transition of the Soviet Union to a low-pulse cartridge. The old patron had a perspective. I once talked with someone who fought in Transnistria. He said that they tried to get an AKM or a Romanian copy (in general, they tried to get any weapon, but the former is preferable) because the AK-74 ricocheted heavily in the city. And the wound from a bullet even ricocheted into himself is very serious.
  3. marauder
    0
    18 February 2012 11: 39
    As they like to praise caliber 5.45.
    Invented the full g.vno. This caliber just do not have to fly. The fact that it was even possible to launch it, on the verge of gyroscopic stability and the merit of the designers.

    This is our sloppiness or sabotage of the Pentagon.

    caliber 5.6 and diameter 5.6 are different things.
    mixed the caliber and diameter when they gave the technical specifications for development.

    now there are two rounds in the world.
    5.45x39 and 5.6x39 (22PPC) cartridge with unsurpassed accuracy, which is used in benchrest competitions (competition for maximum accuracy).

    That's how the gentlemen set us up.
    1. IGOR78
      +1
      18 February 2012 11: 53
      Where did you get this nonsense that 5,45x39 is a bad cartridge. Yesterday only with firing excellent accuracy.
      1. marauder
        0
        18 February 2012 12: 13
        Quote: IGOR78
        Where did you get this nonsense that 5,45x39 is a bad cartridge. Yesterday only with firing excellent accuracy.


        And athletes are not fools.

        a series of shots 5.6x39 (22PPC) from a good rifle at 100 meters in the target make one hole. smile

        Everything is known by comparison sir.
        1. XIII
          +1
          18 February 2012 14: 35
          Your comparison of 5,45x39 and 5,6x39 ammunition is not entirely correct. This is almost the same as comparing 308 win and 300 win mag.
          5,6x39 was created by squeezing a sleeve from 7,62x39 into a smaller diameter bullet, and as a result we got ammunition that can hardly be called low-impulse relative to 7,62x39. And this is exactly what was required from the designers.
          a series of shots 5.6x39 (22PPC) from a good rifle at 100 meters in the target make one hole

          You can’t argue - this is a fact, however, a 5,6x39 ammunition bullet (even a heavy 3,5 g.) Loses speed and muzzle energy about 1,5-2 times faster compared to 5,45x39, despite the best ballistic coefficient, and already at 100 meters their characteristics are approximately equal, and further - not in favor of 5,6x39.
          1. marauder
            0
            18 February 2012 18: 13
            Quote: XIII
            about 1,5-2 times faster, it loses speed and muzzle energy compared to 5,45x39, despite the best ballistic coefficient,


            in general, the ballistic coefficient is the parameter how quickly the bullet loses speed. there is a contradiction here. feel
            1. marauder
              +1
              18 February 2012 18: 55
              here you can compare
              http://www.ada.ru/Guns/ballistic/22PPC/index.htm БК 0,249
              http://www.ada.ru/Guns/ballistic/545x39/index.htm БК 0,246

              BC is almost the same. The question is not in the cartridge, but in the pool.
              increase the diameter by 0,15 mm and get the most accurate cartridge, superior to the NATO.
              Who bothered in due time? Pure diversion.

              (sometimes errors occur on www.ada.ru, here the BC is indicated more accurately)
    2. 0
      14 February 2015 19: 49
      '' How they like to praise the 5.45 caliber '' And in the west they have already started talking about a return to the 7,62 caliber. You can't argue against the power.
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  4. +1
    18 February 2012 12: 34
    I am sitting in a hut ... reed walls ... A line of M-16 meters with 40 ... In the back through the same wall ... Here it is still alive ... But why is the cartridge heavy?
    1. +1
      19 February 2012 17: 48
      The old servant told me that 7,62 meters from 60 meters freely pierced the earthen parapet of the trench, but 5,45 did not pierce anymore. I don’t know how much this is true. For what I bought, I sell it for that.
      By the way, I'm from Ukraine, otherwise the flag is some kind of white-red.
      1. schta
        0
        20 February 2012 14: 31
        Provider polish IPs uses
  5. marauder
    +3
    18 February 2012 12: 43
    and even IGOR78 try to weigh our cartridges on an electronic scale.
    I don’t know about 5.45. but 7.62x54 walk by weight at 0.6 grams
    individual copies to grams. What nah ... there may be accuracy with this attitude to quality.

    Serdyukov is right that imports are better. But you can not buy. We need to learn to do it ourselves.
    1. ivachum
      +2
      18 February 2012 15: 31
      When hit in the head, the head absolutely does not care what caliber.
      1. Splin
        +1
        18 February 2012 15: 37
        Nothing like this. More than 30% of headshots with a machine gun of 7,62 caliber or a splinter can save a person. A 5,45 bullet does not leave a chance.
  6. +1
    18 February 2012 13: 12
    The armor-piercing 5.45 is very good, it wins against the NATO 7.62 in terms of accuracy, due to its unique design in terms of armor penetration it is practically not inferior to its brothers, it wins in accuracy due to less energy, but due to this it loses in terms of ballistics and "power". One specialist I know told me that disputes about which cartridge is better for him are meaningless, definitely 5.45mm. We would still have a good machine gun for this cartridge, the AK-74m is certainly good, but for the special forces it would be better to beat such handsome men as the A-91 under 5.45 or, for example, AEK-971 or AK-107, but they all have a problem with launching into production , and the AEK-971 and AK-107 have some problems with firing delays due to design features. Love our weapons drinks
  7. Giperon.EA
    +1
    18 February 2012 13: 56
    For comparison, the data obtained from a ballistic calculator
    5.45x39mm
    Bullet weight, grams: 3.4
    Initial velocity of the bullet, m / s: 900
    Temperature at which the speed of a bullet was measured, degrees Celsius: 15
    Ballistic coefficient: 0.278
    Pressure, mmHg: 750
    Distance, meters Speed, m/s Energy, joules
    (100) 792 1067
    (200) 692,6 816
    (300) 601,4 615
    (400) 518,2 457
    (500) 442,6 333

    7.62x39mm
    Bullet weight, grams: 8.0
    Initial velocity of the bullet, m / s: 715
    Temperature at which the speed of a bullet was measured, degrees Celsius: 15
    Ballistic coefficient: 0.270
    Pressure, mmHg: 750
    Distance, meters Speed, m/s Energy, joules
    (100) 619,3 1535
    (200) 532,1 1133
    (300) 453 821
    (400) 381,8 583
    (500) 318,1 405

    True, the shock force at this distance in 7.62 is still higher than in 5.45!
    1. marauder
      +1
      18 February 2012 18: 01
      and what kind of calculator?
      drag function G1 + BC does not fit

      (0) 900 1377
      100 792 1067 ----- BK 0,286
      200 692,6 816 ----- BK 0,288
      300 601,4 615 ----- BK 0,292
      400 518,2 457 ---- BC 0,290
      500 442,6 333 ----- BK 0,286
      1. marauder
        +2
        20 February 2012 03: 20
        Quote: Maroder
        and what kind of calculator?

        I certainly side your pluses and minuses.
        but just wondering what the code person thought was minus fool

        Now you have another line under the negative rating. belay laughing Yes

        2+2=4


  8. 0
    18 February 2012 15: 47
    served in the army just at the time when I had to shoot both from 7,62 and from 5,45, I say definitely a big difference. 7,62 is a real military weapon and 5,45 is a NATO recommendation "then it was about that if in the USSR AK assault rifles will have a caliber of 7,62, then it will be like a machine gun and they will fall under the reduction of conventional types of weapons in Europe, so the USSR and went to change the caliber "and now everyone in Europe sneezed on that treaty it's time for us to sneeze
    1. Splin
      0
      18 February 2012 16: 19
      We at the school checked the well-known bike. They shot from 5,45 in a head of cabbage with a helmet on it from 150 meters. The bullet didn’t really pierce the back of the helmet, and the head of the helmet didn’t have fun. And a cabbage leaf is not a frontal bone.
  9. +2
    18 February 2012 17: 39
    I carefully read the article and comments, but I still did not understand why 5,45x39 is better than 5,56x45. Can someone explain? Thanks in advance.
    1. marauder
      -2
      18 February 2012 20: 40
      5,56x45 by TTX is better.

      Now AK101, AK102, AK108 began to enter the army in caliber 5,56x45.
      The Americans made a good cartridge. Go to it the right decision. If cho on both sides of the conflict will be the same ammunition.
      Slowly abandoning 7.62x54, which was invented the year before last, is replaced by 7.62x51 NATO (308 caliber). our industry is already stamping these calibers. and even exported to the states (only cartridges).
      1. Splin
        +1
        18 February 2012 21: 30
        Even at school we were told that 5,45 inflict the most terrible wounds.
        And about the Russian rifle cartridge, back in the 30s they developed it without a collar and a unique shutter that could perceive 2 types of cartridges. And our 7,62 is equal to their 7.64, because we measure by fields and not by rifling.
        1. marauder
          +1
          18 February 2012 22: 07
          I already wrote above. 5.45 flies on the border of gyroscopic stability. any external impact and it will begin to tumble. even in connection with this, a stable bike about a cartridge with a shifted center arose. Therefore, terrible wounds are obtained.

          in general, my personal opinion is to switch to 22PPC and then we have a tangible advantage. but the top decided 5,56x45 (223 REM). good too.


          1. kott
            0
            19 February 2012 18: 23
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP4cqNWRQro
  10. Splin
    0
    18 February 2012 22: 26
    And how much will it cost to transfer the army to a new caliber? These are dozens, if not hundreds of millions of rounds!
  11. +1
    19 February 2012 06: 06
    may be worth recalling the sergeant’s textbook. nth number of bullets per unit time per unit area. and no matter what caliber. then hailstones work
    1. 0
      19 February 2012 14: 59
      disagree
  12. jar.zoom
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    20 February 2012 15: 49
    The cartridge was unambiguously accepted under overseas influence and was too hasty. On the whole it’s not bad. But as a cartridge for mass automatic weapons ... it’s not impressive. I am personally at 7,62. But it’s not a fountain either. It’s very strange that Fedorov used 1916mm Arisaka in his machine gun in 6,5, and by the middle of the 20th century there was a colossal experience of using 6-7mm ammunition, and the choice was stopped at 5,45, which is even more strange now that there is more experience using low-pulse cartridges. Yes, and 6,5 mm appear (6,5-39 Grendel for example) The price of the issue, of course, is not very cheap, but ... Switching to 6.5 is necessary. The sooner, the better. After all, you still have to.
    1. ded-62
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      26 June 2012 15: 51
      This had to be done before the Second World War, then the USSR would have had the best self-loading in the world.
  13. alesinelnikov
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    17 March 2012 18: 59
    I'm not special, but I think in melee in the city the mass of the queue is 7,62 and the brick will crumble and lay any uncle!
    1. kott
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      17 March 2012 19: 03
      alesinelnikov,
      Fools and roads have not yet been translated in Russia. lol
      1. alesinelnikov
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        21 March 2012 21: 02
        I don’t understand, but the flag is German, and there live very smart people who decide one dilemma "why do these fools always win them?" And yet, so from an amateur at 7,62 the mass is more and if it does not break through the armor, then you can not get up very soon! this is a fact and I said that he is not a specialist in this matter, which is not indisputable, and rather more scientific polemics in battle, training and experience will decide everything!
    2. ded-62
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      26 June 2012 15: 53
      In close combat or PP or pump.

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