Tricky comments. And who did you want to frighten a nuclear warhead?

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Tricky comments. And who did you want to frighten a nuclear warhead?




For the money we will return a little lower. First things first.

It all started with the announcement of the dogma that there is in the world a beautiful, proven on Japanese cities means of destruction - nuclear weapons!

Post on "Lente Ru", which was published quite recently, shook the minds of some" military experts "and" representatives of the military industrial complex ". But, probably, it is more correct to write," shaken. "From a word hesitate. If the jelly slightly push, then the oscillation will begin throughout the system. Well, the structure is so unstable.

What did the colleagues from Lenta.Ru find?

"About this in the article" How the modernization of the US nuclear forces undermines strategic stability, "published in the journal Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, writes a group of leading US military experts: Director of the Nuclear Information Center of the Federation of American Scientists Hans Christensen, well-known expert in rocket technology, Theodore Postol, and Matthew McKinsey, director of nuclear programs at the National Council for the Protection of Natural Resources. "

"... the observers missed the real revolution in strategic armaments, which the United States conducted since 2009. It is about equipping nuclear warheads W76-1 / Mk.4 (power 100 kilotons, installed on Trident II naval missiles) with a new super-explosive system (super-fuze) MC4700. If previously no more than 20 percent of naval missile blocks could be used against protected targets, now their share approaches 100 percent. "

A small retreat. Many servicemen mistakenly believe that hitting the target must necessarily be direct. Primitive and outdated view of things. I saw the target, took aim and fired. A bullet or projectile hits the target and hits it.

We emphasize the bullet or projectile. Well, let's leave the bullets alone, let's look at the example of a projectile.

It happens that the projectile for a bunch of reasons flies past the target? It happens. And then you need to use the latest American design. Namely new fuses.

Is the projectile flying higher? Supercomputer on your gun calculated. He gave the command and, before reaching some meters there, the fuse works, and ... It is difficult to assume, but if it is high-explosive, then there will be some sense. Hit Naturally. Defeat? Hmm ...

Here is a modern approach to the latest weapons design. The main thing is not a defeat, but a hit!

After reading what is written above, many former military personnel and those who work with weapons today, probably smiled. "Incompetent dedication"? Perhaps, but then what thoughts arose while reading, and so we use. A lot of fun, the American experts decided to "dissolve the administration and the US Congress." Yes, and we "frighten."

But, on the other hand, there is a weapon of this type of action. Already not one century exists. Artillery can not boast of such a fuse, but shrapnel "covers infantry" for centuries. There is no centimeter accuracy, but there is an amount turning into quality.

But back to what the American nuclear weapons experts are talking about.

"The peculiarity of the MC4700 system is that it is able to compensate for part of the“ fly-overs ”by early undermining the unit at a small height above the target."

Simply put, a high-power missile with a nuclear weapon does not always hit the target accurately. The probability of such a hit is estimated by experts about 1 to 2. Approximately 50%. You have to agree that when destroying underground objects, naturally, seriously protected from such strikes, this launch may not be possible to achieve.

And if so, then the enemy launcher, and in this case it is directly referred to the Russian or Chinese PU, will work normally. And the answer will follow with high probability.

What “compensates for the blunders” of the new fuze? It is what is written about at the beginning of the article.

A smart computer for 80-60 kilometers counts the magnitude of a miss and issues a command to self-detonate the ammunition over the target. That’s all. And the power of this ammunition allows you to hit the target, even without direct exposure. Simply put, now the probability of hitting is nearing optimal. To be precise, the Americans give the probability of hitting 83% for highly protected objects (capable of withstanding pressure in 10000 psi), and 99% for well-protected objects (2000 pounds).

But there are doubts. Ground or submerged object, he, of course, a nuclear explosion that is one kilometer away, which is five. The result will be quite good, because everyone knows about the multi-stage impact of a nuclear explosion.

But with objects that are safely hidden not just underground, but protected by mountains as?

By the way, there is another simple but logical question. And what means the enemy's air defense? They are kind of like no? Not at all? After all, to defeat serious objects, the power of the ammunition is no less than 100 kilotons, which is what was mentioned above. And such power in an inconspicuous rocket can not be built. We need a serious carrier.

American experts have the answer. The ammunition is located on Trident II sea-based missiles (UGM-133A Trident II (D5) - "trident"). It is such missiles from 1990 that constitute the main (up to 52%) strike force of the American strategic nuclear forces. And besides the United States, there are such missiles in the UK. In a small, true amount.

US strategic missile submarine capable of launching this three-stage monster, just a little. Ohio-class missile carriers, namely, they are armed with 24-me "Tridents" each, are always under the supervision of the enemy. Therefore, they will not be able to come close to the coast; here it is clear that our naval fleets will watch out. And what remains?

It remains for what they were once created. And missile carriers, and missiles. Shooting from a decent distance (5-12 000 km). What makes all the other "innovations" and "achievements" of the US military-industrial complex questionable. Including the "revolutionary" fuse.

Just because the three-stage ballistic Trident II, which is quite fast in terms of speed and well visible from everywhere, is removed by modern means of video conferencing and missile defense systems of Russia with a high degree of probability.

506 of such units is deployed in the USA today. According to Pentagon experts, 272 is enough for complete suppression of Russian silo-based PUs. From this "arithmetic" it becomes clear the purpose of this study. Amphibious Target. Lung cancer.

First, the money of American taxpayers did not go into the sand. The Pentagon has weapons and the ability to destroy the enemy, whoever he is, a preemptive strike of modern weapons. The security of the country is guaranteed!

Secondly, the new US President Trump is simply obliged to allocate funds for research and development of new strategic missiles! Almost 30-year-old "Trident" will soon not be able (or rather, no longer can) be used effectively.

Only one thing is strange. Trident II is not only equipped with 100 kiloton warheads. Some missiles are equipped with a more destructive 455-kiloton "head." And for these missiles, too, blocks (W88) have been created. And in terms of quantity, this component is not much less than the 100-kiloton (384 block). Probably, the Pentagon "saved" these data for the "appropriate case" when it will be necessary to show something else to the president.

In general, it is clear that the Americans are well aware of the lag of their Armed Forces in terms of equipment not only from the Russian Armed Forces, but also from the Chinese. And such statements, which today appear periodically in the media, are designed primarily for the "very nervous system" of military departments of likely adversaries. Make the scare and start another "arms race." Even the numbers and performance characteristics of weapons, which have always been a taboo for the press, are openly walking in the media today.

Strange approach. On the one hand, even somehow it is not accepted, perhaps, to tell the whole world about such achievements like that. Especially those who seem to be the undisputed leader and all that. There is no need. First - he is the first in Africa.

We once very nicely talked about "Bulava", "Sinev", "Leiner", "Iskander", "Caliber". We really needed to “partners” to make sure that we have the latest weapon systems. Effective and deadly.

After last year’s start-ups, the Calibrov seems to be everything. Silence. Whoever did not believe, also does not believe, and it was clearly reached who it was supposed to reach. And here's the result: now the United States clearly puts itself in the role of a catch-up.

But this is "and we have ... and we have ..." The Trident "with superpribluda"! You do not see there that he is as old as ... well, everyone understood how, he is still very good! And with a super fuse - and in general! And you in Russia and China will still have a cap!

No, no doubt, Ohio is a good combat complex, reliable, proven for decades of service. And the Trident, too, as a combat system, does not cause any particular doubts in its ability to deliver 100 kilotons to a specific point on the globe. The question of the quality and effectiveness of the application today.

Here, as if we have something to argue, but the point is not that. The bottom line is that it is not by chance that the Americans began to talk so actively about the fact that they would still win everybody. Here the only question is who they want to convince more: the new president, to give more money or Russia and China, so that they are still afraid.

We think that after all the first option. Money. For what frighten us? We are scared ...
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  1. +14
    6 March 2017 15: 28
    Some kind of epidemic with these "super-fuses"
    as if someone had read about anti-aircraft shells of WWII times with radar fuses and slapped himself on the forehead "here it is a wonderful weapon."
    Kindergarten, the right word ...
    1. +9
      6 March 2017 17: 03
      - Let's launch nuclear missiles in Russian
      - And if they launch their own on us?
      - And for what?
    2. +11
      6 March 2017 23: 26
      I live in the south of Altai. The article recalled our nuclear weapons tests at the Semipalatinsk test site. Recently, they were held in the mornings on Saturday (about 9 hours), and an hour later it was reported on the radio indicating the power of the charge. Saturday is a day off and I want to lie in bed longer. And then suddenly you swam, uploaded. Really with a hangover? I open my eyes and look at the ceiling, and there the chandelier sways. Phew, you're fine. again experiencing. Then my son (8-9 years old) accurately determined the charge power up to 20 kilotons or higher from the amplitude of the chandelier swing. It was possible and did not compare with the official message.
      1. jjj
        +3
        7 March 2017 09: 57
        The authors of the publication told about everything, but did not mention the main message. According to the same media, the new fuses will allow the United States guaranteed to destroy Russia in the event of a preemptive strike without retaliatory consequences for the United States.
        That's what the dog rummaged through
        1. 0
          7 March 2017 12: 48
          winked Well, why? Even the number of blocks was indicated ... American experts are so good that any expert opinion can be read by viewing 4-5 newspapers ....
          And here's another, you’ve not seen the concept of an attack of sea-based nuclear weapons drinks The Americans are well aware that mine pylons will be guaranteed to be destroyed on both sides.
        2. 0
          8 March 2017 20: 48
          Quote: jjj
          The authors of the publication told about everything, but did not mention the main message. According to the same media, the new fuses will allow the United States guaranteed to destroy Russia in the event of a preemptive strike without retaliatory consequences for the United States.

          It was this message that they questioned, and quite reasonably.
  2. +20
    6 March 2017 15: 32
    I still did not understand the advantages of the new fuse. The warhead always deviates from the target depending on the conditions of aiming. This is usually a circle or an ellipse. If she goes with a flight, then the fuse blows her up above the target. And if it goes with a shortage or with a deviation to the left or right, what is the point of a fuse? It turns out that the probability of hitting the target will grow only in flight conditions, and this is far from 99%. The adversary of something is dark ... Well, and more. If a warhead receives target designation before it hits, then it communicates over the air. And it can be beaten with EW.
    1. +1
      6 March 2017 15: 47
      Maybe not a fuse, but a guidance and flight control system with satellite correction.
      1. 0
        7 March 2017 07: 39
        Well, then it’s already a controllable, maneuvering warhead. You need to highlight the target and warheads of the type of JP Es and, accordingly, its correction. And this is a very difficult question.
    2. +8
      6 March 2017 15: 50
      Quote: indifferent
      I still did not understand the advantages of the new fuse. The warhead always deviates from the target depending on the conditions of aiming. This is usually a circle or an ellipse. If she goes with a flight, then the fuse blows her up above the target.

      If the center of the ellipse coincides with the target, then the probability of under-flying is equal to the probability of flights. And we need to reduce the likelihood of under-flying, because under-flying does not give a chance to blow up warheads over a target - only on the ground, and far from the target. Consequently, the aiming point should not be the target itself, but a certain point of "lead" in the flight zone. The ellipse must be shifted in the direction of flights. After this, the percentage of the likely occurrence of flights becomes more likely to occur under-flying. Consequently, air chances are more likely and the overall likelihood of an attack to be successful increases. A miracle fuse apparently they have good in that it can super-accurately determine the moment of detonation at a minimum height from the target. Probably before this was not so accurate fuse ...
      1. +4
        7 March 2017 01: 10
        Quote: Alex_59
        Consequently, the aiming point should not be the target itself, but a certain point of "lead" in the flight zone

        Yes, I think so.
        As it was:

        How it became


        It can be seen that the aiming point of the KVO of the trident 2 -100 meters was shifted
    3. +2
      6 March 2017 16: 22
      Quote: indifferent
      The warhead always deviates from the target depending on the conditions of aiming.

      A warhead cannot know how far it deviated from the target, otherwise it would have corrected the flight path, is this obvious, right?
      1. +2
        6 March 2017 20: 29
        Quote: A1845
        A warhead cannot know how far it deviated from the target, otherwise it would have corrected the flight path, is this obvious, right?

        No, this is not obvious. The warhead does not have controls. Know the slip - she can. For example, GPS. (By the way, how do you want to jam electronic warfare? On the warhead only the receiver ...) Correct the situation - no. Warhead is essentially a blank. If for its warheads in its dimensions effective controls are developed in the atmosphere, such that they also fold out after entering the atmosphere, and before that would be hidden under thermal protection, they will probably be given the Nobel Prize. Well, or the Lenin Prize. laughing
        1. 0
          7 March 2017 10: 38
          Quote: Alex_59
          The warhead does not have controls. Know the slip - she can. For example, GPS

          at least the controls have a "bus", but it leads with an error - you are right
          at most - warheads can be maneuvering, this is now a fashionable topic
          but here the famous thesis about a plasma cloud comes up laughing You probably know ..
          In short - either we can determine the coordinates and control (such as an escalibur) or we stupidly fly where we get
          and these super fuses are just someone’s joke wink
          1. 0
            7 March 2017 12: 50
            Quote: A1845
            and these super fuses are just someone’s joke

            lol Not. You just forgot about Trident warheads. There are quite interesting heads. And provided perfectly simulators feel
          2. 0
            7 March 2017 14: 28
            Quote: A1845
            at most - warheads can be maneuvering, this is now a fashionable topic

            Maneuvering where? In the atmosphere? In theory, it is possible, but I personally do not quite understand how to implement this in metal. For the atmosphere? It has no practical meaning.
    4. +1
      6 March 2017 16: 23
      Quote: indifferent
      It turns out the probability of hitting the target will grow only in flight conditions, and this is far from 99%

      In comments on bmpd this question was disassembled. Judging by the original sources, the new warheads will "work on flights" - that is, the center of the ellipse goes beyond the target.
      1. +1
        7 March 2017 12: 54
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Warheads will "work on flights" - that is, the center of the ellipse goes beyond the target.

        Not only. Americans are talking about tolerances in aiming. That is, when flying, as well as when flying, the head explodes in the air. It is due to the air explosion that the greatest effect of hitting the target is achieved.
        They simply calculated that the 8 ground blast was far less effective than the air blast. And provides much less pressure on object protection
        1. 0
          9 March 2017 03: 56
          Quote: domokl
          They simply calculated that a ground explosion was much less effective than an air blast.

          I naively thought that this was calculated 40 years ago and the heads of the ground blast remained only with Pakistan, and the only thing that remains of the new American SU is the choice of the optimal height of the blast request
  3. +8
    6 March 2017 15: 34
    A ground or buried object, to him, of course, a nuclear explosion that is one kilometer or five.
    They have accuracy now about 100 meters. Air blasting is possible during a flight. It is a justifiable decision. In this case, a ground nuclear explosion at 100 meters from the target will be weaker than the same at 100 meters above it.
    But with objects that are safely hidden not just underground, but protected by mountains as?
    No way. The Russian Federation has only a few of these objects, and buried (silos) - several hundred. The presence of "objects" in the mountains can be ignored.
    that the three-stage ballistic Trident II ballistic missile systems, which are rather slow in terms of speed and well-visible from everywhere, are “removed” with a high degree of probability.
    Exactly the opposite. The Russian Aerospace Forces and missile defense systems do not remove Trident at all.
    The Ohio-class missile carriers, namely they are armed with 24 me Tridents each, are always under enemy surveillance. Therefore, they will not be able to come close to the coast, it is clear that our Navy PLO will be vigilant.
    Not everyone and not always. Operating in their own area, PLO and air defense SSBNs of the USA are in relative safety. They can shoot back. We cannot closely patronize surface forces - we do not have a fleet for this. But there is not enough submarines for every Ohio, and not all of our submarines will be able to find their own Ohio in the ocean. Not just to find, but to survive. Without any cover from the air.
    1. 0
      6 March 2017 17: 31
      However, satellites can follow during the day ...
    2. 0
      6 March 2017 20: 45
      Wow, what about the A-135 and C-500 systems? lol
      1. +6
        6 March 2017 20: 49
        Quote: Dzafdet
        Wow, what about the A-135 and C-500 systems?

        Well, what to do ... read about the radius of action of A-135 and the coverage area of ​​the system. Then look at the map, and make sure that beyond the Moscow Ring Road there are enough goals. And with C-500 there is no way at all. I don’t see that each missile regiment of the Strategic Missile Forces had a C-500 regiment. When I see, then we will discuss "how to be."
        1. 0
          6 March 2017 21: 25
          and beyond MKAD they will use silo protection systems on new principles (firing towards a bunch of arrows and balls) ...
        2. +1
          6 March 2017 22: 23
          I don’t see every rocket a shelf Strategic Rocket Forces stood on the shelf C-500.


          Do not see? How so, on Tridents, they felt their hands, and here, what a damn gopher .... what is the S-500? You know? I don’t know there. uh, admission to the layouts .....
          1. +1
            7 March 2017 07: 32
            Quote: Asadullah
            Do not see?

            I do not see. I live close to positional areas. And I don’t see.
            Quote: Asadullah
            and what is C-500? You know?

            Based on open information - I guess.
      2. +1
        6 March 2017 21: 38
        But how these systems are designed primarily to delay the destruction of the capital and the central region, so that the leadership would have time for a retaliatory strike, so when exchanging - more than 100 warheads will fly to Moscow, the maximum that our missile defense can bring down is 50 pieces
    3. +3
      6 March 2017 22: 18
      Exactly the opposite. The Russian Aerospace Forces and missile defense systems do not remove Trident at all.


      laughing Swear on your mom? Are you giving your organ a nickel chop? Or how? Is the state of Russian missile defense such that it cannot intercept a single obsolete ballistic target? Duc, well then, the Americans have no problems at all, it’s enough to upgrade five hundred rackets to “walk” at the finish, and that’s all, all Russian air defense, with the airborne forces and goodbye escorts ..... if you broadcast with such an aplomb, maybe a few technical parts in order to completely cover with a copper basin?
  4. +9
    6 March 2017 15: 39
    Americans are well aware of the backlog of their aircraft in terms of equipment not only from Russian aircraft, but also from Chinese

    Is this a joke so chtoli?
    1. +1
      6 March 2017 15: 49
      It’s just incomprehensible - but what exactly are they behind, from us and China?
  5. +1
    6 March 2017 15: 43
    Money will be allocated for the rearmament of the nuclear triad in the United States, the program was accepted, about a trillion dollars for 15 years there and new strategic bombers, submarines, cruise missiles, ground ICBMs and warheads, including those planning hypersonic units - not in nuclear equipment.
  6. +3
    6 March 2017 16: 12
    Previously, to compensate for the large CVO, an increase in the power of a single charge was used, now, as a kind of revelation, they offer an air blast. Dramatically this is unlikely to change anything.

    An analogue of the fable that the missile defense intercepts warheads and guarantees something there. In fact, the missile defense intercepted 2 warheads and missed 10. (conditionally). Air blasting by a few percent will increase the impact on the target. And the target, meanwhile, is so designed for a close detonation of a nuclear charge - both ground and air.
  7. +12
    6 March 2017 16: 48
    And will our Strategic Rocket Forces wait for the Amer warheads with these detonators to arrive and crash?
    In theory, when this American miracle of hostile technology arrives, all of our missile silos will be empty and there will be deviations of at least a meter, at least a kilometer, everything is up to the bulb ... Nuclear war will write everyone off ...
    See at the root, dear.
    1. +4
      6 March 2017 16: 50
      If the government decides to slap around the cities with their villas and children in 10 minutes.
      1. +2
        6 March 2017 21: 30
        In the event of escalation, their villas and children will immediately move to other continents and countries - South Africa, Indonesia, South America, Malaysia, Madagascar, New Zealand, Australia, Egypt, UAE, Fiji, India, Jamaica, etc., And in the place with them a part of the population Europe, the United States, as well as the rich and wealthy citizens of Russia, including I, will scatter all over the world.
        1. +5
          6 March 2017 22: 45
          Quote: Vadim237
          including I - will scatter all over the world.

          Vadim, you made the right decision!
          Radioactive cloud ... Sowing precipitation ... - At least to travel like that, and at the same time to salt the thorn at last.
          How else? Otherwise, no way !!!
          1. +1
            6 March 2017 23: 51
            Before the clouds reach the tropics, 80–90 percent of the radioactive dust will rain and simply scatter over the entire globe - its radiation level will drop sharply, and in 8 days, the most dangerous radioactive element Iodine 131 will decay. cleansed of decay products - the synthesis of thermonuclear explosions all this time and after, life on Earth will continue.
            1. +1
              12 March 2017 23: 54
              Quote: Vadim237
              Before the clouds reach the tropics, 80–90 percent of the radioactive dust will rain and simply scatter over the entire globe - its radiation level will drop sharply, and in 8 days, the most dangerous radioactive element Iodine 131 will decay. cleansed of decay products - the synthesis of thermonuclear explosions all this time and after, life on Earth will continue.

              In fact, 8 days is not the decay period of iodine 131, but the half-life. In other words, activity during this time is halved. If the amount of that infection is enough to burn the thyroid gland (the main consumer of iodine) in two minutes, then after 8 days it will burn the gland in 4 minutes.
              Plutonium isotopes half-life over tens of thousands of years. Hence, for the emergence of conditions for the continuation of terrestrial species of life after a nuclear apocalypse, it will take more than one thousand years.
      2. +5
        6 March 2017 23: 02
        Quote: BlackMokona
        If the government decides to slap around the cities with their villas and children in 10 minutes.

        Government is here sideways? The government decides the amount of your grandmother's pension. And on the account of the nuclear strike, the president, the minister of defense decides, and it seems the chief of staff of the armed forces, when two of them receive orders to use nuclear weapons, the uncles in uniform press the red button, and if they are already dead, then the order to launch the entire arsenal gives an artificial intelligence called the "perimeter" and all the missiles start automatically, all the targets are set, the data entered apparently beforehand, and then comes the universal kirdyk, something like that.
        1. jjj
          0
          7 March 2017 10: 05
          Not they themselves give the command by voice, but each enter their own part of the key to use. Therefore, the commander of our strategic boat will not be able to independently arrange armageddon. The American boat can independently launch a rocket
  8. +2
    6 March 2017 16: 56
    US strategic missile submarine capable of launching this three-stage monster, just a little. Ohio-class missile carriers, namely, they are armed with 24-me "Tridents" each, are always under the supervision of the enemy. Therefore, they will not be able to come close to the coast; here it is clear that our naval fleets will watch out. And what remains?
    It remains for what they were once created. And missile carriers, and missiles. Shooting from a decent distance (5-12 000 km). What makes all the other "innovations" and "achievements" of the US military-industrial complex questionable. Including the "revolutionary" fuse.

    those. within 5000 km from our shores of the Russian Navy guarantees 100% tracking efficiency for American SSBNs? wassat lol
    1. 0
      6 March 2017 20: 44
      yeah .. wassat killer boats are called ... bully
  9. +7
    6 March 2017 16: 59
    Just because the three-stage ballistic Trident II ballistic missile system, quite quick in terms of speed and well-visible from everywhere, is "removed" with a high degree of probability by the Russian aerospace defense and missile defense systems.

    Does the portal editor have any qualifications for the materials? ) Well, why publish such an obvious nonsense?
  10. +5
    6 March 2017 17: 08
    I’ll tell you about the secret of war and flight time of the ova ICBMs for at least 15 minutes, they are detected 3-4 minutes after the start, the regulations for launching the silo ICBMs are less than 10 minutes, you will calculate for yourself whether the missile will be in the mine when a warhead arrives to visit it from across the Earth or will make a third of the way to FSA during this time!
    1. +1
      6 March 2017 17: 37
      Why in 3-4 minutes? Often instantly spotted.
      Therefore, the Americans are getting smaller, they know - the answer will be in any case not sour. They have 100-110 million in ruins and we have about 40.
    2. +2
      6 March 2017 20: 43
      According to the new requirements, the start time from the silos is 2 minutes ...
    3. +1
      7 March 2017 17: 36
      Quote: Hammer 75
      count yourself whether there will be a rocket in the mine

      The question is not at all the time of the operation of combat crews and the hardware time of launch. This is really no more than 3-4 minutes (for silos, at least), if summed over all control links. The main thing here is the decision by the country's top leadership on the combat use of nuclear weapons. The decision is not sole, but collegial and with full consensus: President - Minister of Defense - Prime Minister. Will you find or suggest a weak link?
      1. 0
        10 March 2017 15: 23
        And you premiered for what purpose? I’ll open another secret, there is no collegium, there is only the President and the secretary, the security council (deliberative vote), if the decision of the Supreme Council is not possible, the next one is in line, and who I will not say, I suspect you of insincerity.
  11. +8
    6 March 2017 18: 59
    Quote: BlackMokona
    If the government decides to slap around the cities with their villas and children in 10 minutes.


    The government is not involved in such decisions. The decisions will be made by harsh military uncles, for whom it’s “good to have a rest”, that is, to go hunting or fishing, and not to “go sailing with villains with children *.” Read the military doctrine in the latest edition at least, and then suffer from populism.
  12. +6
    6 March 2017 21: 24
    The new American fuse is not intended to compensate for missed missile warhead of a ballistic missile on purpose (for this there is a maneuvering warhead with a radar seeker and a controlled aerodynamic skirt), but to provide an optimal height for detonating a warhead’s nuclear charge above the surface of the earth in order to generate the strongest seismic wave in the ground .

    The circular probable deviation of the BB of the Trident II rocket is estimated at 90 meters with GPS and 120 meters with astro correction. The optimum height of the detonation 100-kt of a nuclear charge above the ground should be of the order of 100 meters so that the shock wave in the plasma ball of a thermonuclear explosion reaches its maximum value. An explosion at a higher altitude will reduce the strength of the shock wave, at a higher one it will lead to spurious ejection of soil.

    A shock wave in a plasma forms a flat funnel of large diameter and a seismic wave in the ground on the surface of the earth. In a radius of 150 - 200 meters, the destruction of defensive structures, including the heads of the silo launchers of ballistic missiles, occurs.

    For a guaranteed breakthrough to the target, firing at each silo of ICBMs is conducted by two SLBMs.

    The point of firing submarine ballistic missiles at ground-based mine-based missiles is only when the first nuclear strike is launched and the submarine approaches a short distance of the order of 3000 km to reduce the SLBM flight time to 10 minutes in the hope that the enemy’s leadership will not have time to make a decision to retaliatory nuclear missile strike.

    The plan for disabling mine launchers is countered by 5-minute readiness for launching land-based ICBMs. The launch of SLBMs is detected by satellites and over-the-horizon radars of the missile attack warning system.

    In the event of a timely counter-launch of an adversary’s ICBM, the U.S. is guaranteed to lose TMV - most of the American nuclear missile potential is spent on the destruction of empty mines, while the enemy completely destroys the US military bases, military-industrial complex and cities with the main mobilization reserve.
    1. +1
      6 March 2017 21: 37
      Quote: Operator
      for this there is a maneuvering BB with a radar seeker and a controlled aerodynamic skirt

      Do not tell me the ammunition index and a link to it is possible? How many such ammunition costs on missiles is interesting.
      1. 0
        6 March 2017 21: 41
        Rocket Index - DF-21D
        https://topwar.ru/94545-protivokorabelnaya-ballis
        ticheskaya-raketa-df-21d-kitay.html
        1. +1
          7 March 2017 07: 29
          Quote: Operator
          Rocket Index - DF-21D

          Is it an American rocket?
          Not. The United States does not have such missiles.
          Secondly, supposedly the possibility of "controllability" of the warhead of this missile is just an assumption. Nobody touched her hands, telemetry test did not publish. Just a version of experts. In reality, it can easily turn out to be "Chinese kilowatts."
          1. 0
            7 March 2017 10: 31
            Did I really say that maneuvering combat units are in service with the US Armed Forces?

            The Chinese maneuvering warheads with the Strategic Missile Forces (designed to hit moving targets) were given as a comparison with the American warheads with an altimeter fuse (designed to hit stationary highly protected targets).
            1. 0
              7 March 2017 14: 38
              Quote: Operator
              Chinese maneuvering BB with the WGG

              I guess this is a fun Chinese trolling and bluff. The fact that their warheads can adjust the direction outside the atmosphere on the CC from the outside I fully admit. In the atmosphere, maneuvering is already a rather dumb idea. Especially for an aircraft carrier that could have gone 15 miles from the aiming point in half an hour of flight time. Such a miss maneuvering in the atmosphere is unlikely to compensate. Moreover, I do not believe that they have an active homing radar on the BB. This is simply not necessary. On the descending part of the trajectory, the “atmospheric” part of the warhead flies in a matter of seconds - it is too late to maneuver. But before entering the atmosphere it is very possible. And most importantly - easily and simply, using pulsed micromotors. For 30 seconds of flight in the atmosphere, the target (aircraft carrier) will not have time to essentially go anywhere.
              So I think so.
              1. +1
                7 March 2017 15: 12
                In this matter it is easier to count.

                When firing on a ballistic trajectory at a distance of 21 km, the DF-1800D warhead enters the atmosphere at an altitude of 100 km at an angle of 45 degrees. Consequently, the BB flies in the atmosphere of 140 km with a decrease in speed from 2 km / s at the entrance to 1 km / s when it hits the target.

                A warhead radar GNS starts operating at a speed of 1,5 km / s (end of plasma formation) approximately in the middle of the atmospheric part of the trajectory at a distance of 70 km from the target or for approximately 60 seconds of flight.

                Those. There is an abundance of time for detecting and capturing a target like a destroyer with an ESR of 10000 sq. m, and even more so, an aircraft carrier with an ESR of 100000 sq. m.

                At least the ancient Pershing II with a similar RCGS had a quo of 30 meters - enough 100-kt of nuclear warheads to evaporate the metal of the ship’s hull, even in the event of a miss on its deck.
    2. 0
      6 March 2017 23: 56
      We have satellites with satellites - only two SPRN satellites remained in orbit.
    3. +9
      7 March 2017 00: 09
      And can someone tell me: how many "tridents" at one time can release Ohio? Even with an interval of a few minutes? I read somewhere that this is not an easy matter. And the launch of 12 (if I'm not mistaken) missiles with submarines with a minimum interval was carried out once. Operation Hippo ... in my opinion.
      1. 0
        7 March 2017 00: 26
        If there is an order, they will start everything - regardless of what it can or cannot.
      2. 0
        7 March 2017 04: 08
        Do you want 20 missiles twice with the TK-20 with a post-warranty shelf life? Americans let only three TRIDENTS ONE TIME ...
        1. +8
          7 March 2017 10: 12
          Yeah .. and immediately to the repair dock ..... So exactly half of the entire Amerika submarine park lives ...
    4. +1
      7 March 2017 00: 41
      Someday, Americans will come to the concept of a low-orbit hypersonic drone - a kamikaze that will ram off take-off ICBMs over enemy territory - the active section has been working all three steps for 170 seconds during which time the satellites will be able to detect and take missiles and send interceptors to them, having speed dispersal of 15 - 20 Machs, such devices will be able to hit take-off ICBMs in a radius of 816 kilometers.
      1. 0
        7 March 2017 17: 43
        and we answered them interceptor with the destruction of 100%! tongue
      2. 0
        10 March 2017 19: 02
        Quote: Vadim237
        You already gouged the whole head that such absolutely, if to speak about MASS application, is impossible. The period of revolution of a body in a low orbit above the Earth is an entire hour, or even one and a half. To hit a target on Earth, thousands of fighters are needed, chain and constantly hanging over the target (with precisely defined coordinates) The next flight, therefore, only after an hour. Given the Coriolis forces, an exact flight over the same place would not work without horizontal maneuver. If we take into account that we have at least three or four hundred mines, then determine what financial expenses will be required to make your paranoid delirium.
        Compare the possibility of a second attack only after an hour (with a small number of fighters) and the possibility of defeating not from orbit, but from the Earth after 20 minutes of flight time.

        You already gouged the whole head that such absolutely, if to speak about MASS application, is impossible. The period of revolution of a body in a low orbit above the Earth is an entire hour, or even one and a half. To hit a target on Earth, thousands of fighters are needed, chain and constantly hanging over the target (with precisely defined coordinates) The next flight, therefore, only after an hour. Given the Coriolis forces, an exact flight over the same place would not work without horizontal maneuver. If we take into account that we have at least three or four hundred mines, then determine what financial expenses will be required to make your paranoid delirium.
        Compare the possibility of a second attack only after an hour (with a small number of fighters) and the possibility of defeating not from orbit, but from the Earth after 20 minutes of flight time.
      3. 0
        12 March 2017 17: 51
        So a drone or a kamikaze? These are two different things.
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    6 March 2017 22: 11
    Of course off topic, but it's nice to go to bed.
    http://новости-россии.ru-an.info/новости/суперэсм
    Inc-Diamond-and-Mission-Observer-Against-Simple-Militia
    ev-crimea /
  14. +1
    7 March 2017 09: 27
    More such articles and in no case any disarmament and reduction of nuclear weapons. Well, if it’s curious, then there are more missiles with hypersonic guided warheads, and more hypersonic winged nuclear “peace doves” for the presumptuous American hawks of war. And it doesn’t matter where they fall there, they would have ended up in the USA, and there will be so many yelling that the whole Merka will fall into its constituent parts.
    1. 0
      7 March 2017 12: 59
      feel If someone was able to create some kind of mechanism, even a smart autonomous guidance system for BL, then there will always be someone who can break this mechanism .... Or hack ... Even a person sometimes has a "roof that goes slowly" . What can we say about the piece of iron ...
      You just need to move away from simple, clear to all schemes. Sometimes a projectile does not hit the target, not because the gunner is aiming poorly ... It's just that the target is not there ... bully
  15. 0
    7 March 2017 14: 01
    Quote: jjj
    The authors of the publication told about everything, but did not mention the main message. According to the same media, the new fuses will allow the United States guaranteed to destroy Russia in the event of a preemptive strike without retaliatory consequences for the United States.
    That's what the dog rummaged through

    Your milk ran away on the stove !!! ah-ah-ah, "run" faster to the kitchen !!!
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  16. 0
    7 March 2017 15: 54
    I read this heresy. I immediately remembered a little boy walking at night in the forest and saying out loud: I’m not afraid, I’m not afraid. It seems like he himself is not afraid and hopes that the wolves, having breathed, are also afraid.
    1. 0
      7 March 2017 17: 45
      and our developed BB with variable geometry! the teacher told us about this in 1977! and all American missile defense in the furnace! wassat wassat
  17. 0
    8 March 2017 15: 47
    And with what hangover does the author indicate the probability values ​​of the event in PERCENTAGES ??
  18. +1
    9 March 2017 09: 24
    The article is not only ernical, but also “true”, in the sense - true, true and only true, but by no means all !!! Because of such urapatriotic constructions, the USSR knew the defeats of 41-42 !!! The current ones can be much more fatal.

    Now what was silent about in the article. 60% of the 3030 w76 warheads designed to destroy cities and populations with an air explosion (like in Nagasaki) were converted into warheads that can now destroy highly protected military-political targets with a ground explosion. Previously, they had about 400 of them - w88. Now 2400.

    At the same time, explosives were replaced with new types in the detonation system, which can lead to an increase in the degree of use of nuclear material - there is work, there is no evidence of what this work was for, it should be thoughtful.

    As for soothing songs about: 30-year-old tridents, under supervision, are filmed with a high degree, etc. A simple question - at least one trident was "taken off"? And in the face of the massive first disarming strike of 6000 missiles?

    In fact, the alteration of w76 warheads means a change in the military-political strategy from the mass destruction of cities and the population (3000 warheads) to the destruction of strategic forces. Just like that, things are not done.
  19. 0
    10 March 2017 01: 00
    Quote: Alex_59
    it's a fun chinese trolling and bluffing

    Photo of the new Chinese RSF DF-26 with a range of 3000 km and a maneuvering warhead

  20. 0
    10 March 2017 12: 23
    Quote: trantor
    The question is not at all the time of the operation of combat crews and the hardware time of launch. This is really no more than 3-4 minutes (for silos, at least), if summed over all control links. The main thing here is the decision by the country's top leadership on the combat use of nuclear weapons. The decision is not sole, but collegial and with full consensus: President - Minister of Defense - Prime Minister. Will you find or suggest a weak link?

    You yourself have found the answer to "super-fuses." It is necessary to eliminate the weak link in the solution chain. From a warning system direct to calculations and start-up, bypassing the president and so on. Of course, the probability of error increases. Well, Americans are blaming their "super-fuses."
  21. 0
    10 March 2017 18: 45
    It seems that the massive use of nuclear weapons can be made suddenly. Not at all.
    The warhead is always detached from the carrier and stored in the refrigerator. The fact is that the charge always "half-lives". The reactions laid down by the pyrode proceed and in the stored. Half-life products stand out: argon, xenon, radon, and another half of the periodic table. Therefore, they must be deleted. Reactions come with self-heating. The mechanics of the head, electronics, and everything else, including the initiating chemical explosive (if there is such a device that sets the elements of the nuclear charge in motion, creating a supercritical mass), degrades, which requires constant cooling. The head is attached to the carrier, putting it on combat duty.
    The order for the mass placement of such as such cannot be carried out secretly. We learn about such an order, perhaps earlier than the Pentagon warriors themselves. And, naturally, we will not wait for our positions to be attacked. Then the grandmother in two said that their beater will arrive before our launches. Most likely, in the vast majority (although this is a disaster), but our mines will be empty by this time.
    The report of super-detonators capable of producing an EXPLOSION AT HEIGHT (it’s strange, as if they hadn’t done it before!), Above the target, and thus increase the radius of destruction (to guarantee defeat), suggests that they do not have the exact coordinates of our mines. Moreover, it does not say anything about the possibility of defeating our mobile systems. Well, here it is necessary to explode at an altitude of several tens of kilometers, following their logic.
  22. 0
    10 March 2017 18: 57
    Quote: Vadim237
    Someday, Americans will come to the concept of a low-orbit hypersonic drone - a kamikaze that will ram off take-off ICBMs over enemy territory - the active section has been working all three steps for 170 seconds during which time the satellites will be able to detect and take missiles and send interceptors to them, having speed dispersal of 15 - 20 Machs, such devices will be able to hit take-off ICBMs in a radius of 816 kilometers.

    You already gouged the whole head that such absolutely, if to speak about MASS application, is impossible. The period of revolution of a body in a low orbit above the Earth is an entire hour, or even one and a half. To hit a target on Earth, thousands of fighters are needed, chain and constantly hanging over the target (with precisely defined coordinates) The next flight, therefore, only after an hour. Given the Coriolis forces, an exact flight over the same place would not work without horizontal maneuver. If we take into account that we have at least three or four hundred mines, then determine what financial expenses will be required to make your paranoid delirium.
    Compare the possibility of a second attack only after an hour (with a small number of fighters) and the possibility of defeating not from orbit, but from the Earth after 20 minutes of flight time.