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The first flight of the Chinese "Pterodactyl"

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In China, the first flight of a new domestic impact drone Wing Loong II (Pterodactyl II or 翼龙 II in Chinese) took place, reports bmpd with reference to the blog of Yuri Lyamina.



The aircraft was built by Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (part of AVIC) in Chengdu.



The stated characteristics:
- Length - 11 meters;
- Wingspan - 20,5 meters;
- Height - 4,1 meter;
- Maximum take-off weight - 4200 kg;
- Combat load - 480 kg;
- Speed ​​up to 370 km / h;
- Flight altitude to 9000 meters.




But the UAV should look like with full armament.
Photos used:
http://www.kaixian.tv
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  1. dnestr74
    dnestr74 28 February 2017 10: 46
    +1
    I didn’t understand, but what then was taken at the parade? Layouts?
    1. dik-nsk
      dik-nsk 28 February 2017 10: 51
      +4
      apparently the pterodactel I)) there is another question: why do the Chinese drones at all? their own 1,5 yards of mouths laughing
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 28 February 2017 12: 09
        +18
        Again they write, a clone, a clone ... The laws of aerodynamics are the same in the USA and in China. Therefore, everyone looks almost the same. While some are shaking the air “we will drive the United States !,” “we will destroy NATO” the Chinese are really doing business and REALLY getting stronger. Well done. Nothing to say.
        1. dik-nsk
          dik-nsk 28 February 2017 12: 12
          0
          Again they write, a clone, a clone.
          Do not you think that your comment, as it were, in a milder way, is not addressed at all? in general - this is not at all addressed laughing Neither I nor my colleague mentioned the “clone” at all, or would they just comment on it higher, but doesn’t it matter in the topic? hi
          1. Arh
            Arh 28 February 2017 15: 43
            +1
            And we have a semblance of such sizes ???
            1. Marksman
              Marksman 28 February 2017 16: 09
              +5
              Quote: Arh
              And we have a semblance of such sizes ???

              We have only beautiful layouts. More beautiful than western and eastern non-flyers.
              Maybe already buy from Kitaysev yes copy? And then the "shock" UAVs have already appeared even in the IG defense "industry." (Joke ... from chagrin)
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 28 February 2017 10: 51
      +15
      "To what extent does the king resemble our Bunshu!" (c) film "Ivan Vasilievich Changes the Profession".
    3. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 28 February 2017 17: 55
      +1
      Quote: dnestr74
      I do not understand

      I think it's worth rejoicing for the Chinese.
      1. Marksman
        Marksman 28 February 2017 18: 53
        +3
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Quote: dnestr74
        I do not understand

        I think it's worth rejoicing for the Chinese.

        Maybe it's better to scratch your head?
  2. kolkulon
    kolkulon 28 February 2017 10: 49
    +2
    Someone he subtly reminds me.
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 28 February 2017 11: 00
      +2
      Quote: kolkulon
      Someone he subtly reminds me.

      This is just a cheap Chinese copy of a defunct Russian copy of the American MQ-9. They stole from us as always. Ahhhh. Which are not good. And we are proud, we do not steal technology.
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 28 February 2017 11: 52
        +10
        Quote: Alex_59
        This is just a cheap Chinese copy of a defunct Russian copy of the American MQ-9. They stole from us as always.

        Copy is not a copy! We are out of competition, due to the lack of a subject for competition, at least with China, not to mention the United States. In this class of weapons, we are not just behind the United States - we simply do not have it.
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 28 February 2017 12: 08
          +2
          Quote: kapitan92
          In this class of weapons, we are not just behind the United States - we simply do not have it.

          I wrote this, only allegorically and with irony. smile
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 28 February 2017 12: 33
            +6
            Quote: Alex_59
            I wrote this, only allegorically and with irony

            The irony did not understand, to blame! It’s just not ironic anymore. Ours promise a shock UAV no earlier than 2018, and it will also have a performance characteristics of the “Predator” type, which was created in the States in the last century.
            drinks hi
  3. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 28 February 2017 10: 52
    +1
    The Chinese are stealing technology.
    1. The brightest
      The brightest 28 February 2017 10: 55
      +2
      But what about the "thief in the thief will not peck out his eyes", where is professional solidarity?
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 28 February 2017 10: 56
      +2
      Quote: Rabinovich
      The Chinese are stealing technology.

      ... and Jews do not steal technology?
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 28 February 2017 11: 04
        +2
        Quote: V.ic
        ... and Jews do not steal technology?

        Right Jews-steal. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, for example. Eternal memory to them.
    3. Siberian
      Siberian 28 February 2017 11: 47
      0
      They do not steal technology, they "make copies" bully
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 28 February 2017 12: 13
      +1
      Quote: Rabinovich
      The Chinese are stealing technology.

      As the classic said: “We need to take music from the people and only process it” - so I do. Therefore, when you take it from the composer today, you take it from the people, take it from the people, take it from you, and most importantly, make your music and whoever says it is plagiarism, I say tradition.
    5. edge
      edge 28 February 2017 12: 20
      0
      as always, as always, while the brains are not enough, strangers use them; just like am .... s, only these create laboratories on their territory, and then assign the result of the work
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 February 2017 10: 52
    0
    Do they have a copier stuck? wassat The switch has obviously broken.
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 28 February 2017 10: 58
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Do they have a copier stuck? The switch has obviously broken.

      They stuck, yes.
      And we do not have a photocopy. Here.
    2. Koshak
      Koshak 28 February 2017 11: 01
      +3
      Laughter, laughter, but so far we are even behind the Chinese on drones. As if we did not have to include a copy machine.
  5. NordUral
    NordUral 28 February 2017 10: 55
    +8
    Better to copy worthwhile than grind with tongue, like some. And remember that for drones, especially percussion, we are just in the ass.
    1. san4es
      san4es 28 February 2017 11: 07
      +14
      The best UAV is ,, Buran "(was)
  6. Altona
    Altona 28 February 2017 10: 57
    +1
    Pentagon traitor cloned? No?
  7. V.ic
    V.ic 28 February 2017 10: 59
    0
    In the first picture, the "chick" is not yet painted.
  8. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 28 February 2017 11: 05
    +2
    翼龙 II

    Great and mighty Chinese language .... And especially writing.
    1. san4es
      san4es 1 March 2017 13: 40
      +9
      ... Hieroglyphs mean - ,, PteroZavr "(Google translation)
  9. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 28 February 2017 11: 14
    +3
    Here are those acid-colored things on the pilots of that drone (in the third picture) - not parachutes, for an hour?
  10. Shadow shooter
    Shadow shooter 28 February 2017 11: 15
    +4
    Well done Chinese, no words.
  11. Sly
    Sly 28 February 2017 11: 35
    +5
    Quote: iliitch
    Here are those acid-colored things on the pilots of that drone (in the third picture) - not parachutes, for an hour?

    the catapult chair is ordinary, when the drone is knocked out, it shoots the operator out of the control car smile
  12. stone
    stone 28 February 2017 11: 48
    0
    Copying a glider, in the case of an UAV, is half the battle, even less. A drone is a complex that includes a bunch of all sorts of bells and whistles sensors, cameras, radars, electronic warfare equipment, ground stations, encryption systems, etc. I'm not sure that the Chinese are okay with this. And so it flies, the picture shows. Arabs and other countries of the 3rd world will go for export.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 28 February 2017 12: 25
      +3
      Well, the previous generation is already participating in real combat missions in Iraq and Nigeria.




    2. donavi49
      donavi49 28 February 2017 12: 29
      +3
      Well, here’s Shahid 129 - an Iranian strike UAV, created in collaboration with the Chinese:

    3. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 28 February 2017 13: 26
      +1
      I will add that in addition to the UAV stuffed in, you need a satellite constellation for remote control and navigation. Own is highly recommended, and this VERY expensive pleasure. Without satellites it will fly far, on other people's satellites - not for long :)
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 28 February 2017 19: 07
        +2
        Quote: g1washntwn
        I will add that in addition to the UAV stuffed in, you need a satellite constellation for remote control and navigation. Own is highly recommended, and this VERY expensive pleasure. Without satellites it will fly far, on other people's satellites - not for long :)

        And China has it, at the moment it covers the SEA region
        By 2020 I plan to bring to global
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бэйдоу
    4. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 28 February 2017 19: 01
      +2
      Quote: stone
      A drone is a complex that includes a bunch of all sorts of bells and whistles sensors, cameras, radars, electronic warfare equipment, ground stations, encryption systems, etc. I'm not sure that the Chinese are okay with this

      China has microelectronics
      both civilian and military
      I would not worry about them, especially in this segment
  13. MoJloT
    MoJloT 28 February 2017 11: 49
    0
    A dangerous neighbor, with strange intentions.
    1. Prahlad
      Prahlad 28 February 2017 12: 24
      +2
      Well understood. Claiming to the Russian territories!
  14. levfuks
    levfuks 28 February 2017 11: 56
    +5
    Most of the comments are “steal”, clone, etc. Properly using something invented by someone does not mean stealing. This is how this world works - someone invents, others use and vice versa.
    I understand that if Americans or Israelis mocked the Chinese, but Russia has so far nothing to show in this class of drones. And it is not clear when something decent appears.
    Well done Chinese!
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 28 February 2017 12: 09
      +3
      I understand that if Americans or Israelis mocked the Chinese, but Russia has so far nothing to show in this class of drones. And it’s not clear when something decent appears

      I will support you. Technology can be laughed at when copying or stealing technology can be fun when the gadgets themselves are full. Israel makes good drones, and there are half "our people." Information for consideration.
    2. edge
      edge 28 February 2017 12: 24
      0
      Quote: levfuks
      So far, Russia has nothing to show in this class of drones. And it is not clear when something decent appears.

      In general, there are developments, they just can not be ordered
  15. edge
    edge 28 February 2017 12: 16
    0
    Quote: kolkulon
    Someone he subtly reminds me.

    they so accelerate their scientific development, using foreign thought as reference points ......
  16. Holoy
    Holoy 28 February 2017 13: 16
    +1
    And we don’t even have anything close like this among UAVs with a long range of action, the mind is not enough ...
    1. Machete
      Machete 28 February 2017 14: 47
      0
      Do you need it?
      A strong enemy, this flying rubbish will be intercepted even on approach and planted or smashed to the ground, and the weak can be handled by ordinary aircraft.
      And for reconnaissance and small drones is enough.
      1. Holoy
        Holoy 28 February 2017 14: 53
        +4
        It’s just necessary. How many Air Force pilots have already died? How many artillery gunners died? In Syria, we would have nothing to do without them at all ... the benefit of previously purchased UAVs in Israel helps ... All reconnaissance through UAVs is going on ...
        By the way, they are attackers, in Israel, they generally gathered to refuse attack helicopters, they have enough UAVs ... And in the USA, it’s UAVs that cause great damage to terrorists ...
      2. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 28 February 2017 19: 13
        +3
        Quote: Machete
        Do you need it?

        Not just necessary, but disastrously necessary.
        And it’s painfully expensive pleasure to send Tu-22M3 / Tu-160 / Su-34 for “barmels on carts”
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 28 February 2017 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: Holoy
      And we don’t even have anything close like this among UAVs with a long range of action, the mind is not enough ...

      That's just the same mind enough.
      But "there is no money (from the Kremlin), but you are holding on. All the best to you, good and good mood."
  17. Machete
    Machete 28 February 2017 14: 46
    0
    Probably, only in China there is a ministry for slamming military secrets and technologies of the countries of the world.
    Did they even come up with something in life?
  18. Editor
    Editor 28 February 2017 16: 34
    +1
    and remember how recently in Syria our drone flew to Israel and deftly dodged TWO air defense missiles and then left the raised F-16 fighter ...

    http://inosmi.ru/military/20160808/237474253.html
  19. Mentat
    Mentat 28 February 2017 19: 10
    0
    Quote: prosto_rgb
    Quote: g1washntwn
    I will add that in addition to the UAV stuffed in, you need a satellite constellation for remote control and navigation. Own is highly recommended, and this VERY expensive pleasure. Without satellites it will fly far, on other people's satellites - not for long :)

    And China has it, at the moment it covers the SEA region
    By 2020 I plan to bring to global
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бэйдоу

    If you still understood what you were writing about.
    We need communication satellites with wide channels, not only navigation.
  20. Mentat
    Mentat 28 February 2017 19: 23
    +4
    So many whining, howling, all-movers and revelry gorlopanov, as in the topic of drones, probably not in any other.

    I don’t know if they’re just foolish people or they’re paid, or they’ve banned them in search engines.

    Heavy UAVs are actually used only by the USA. Not because everyone else is so stupid, and you can’t, you see, repeat such wonderful drones, the pinnacle of technological progress.
    The reason is the operation of heavy UAVs of the current generation is an economic failure. Not a single military budget, with the exception of the United States, which simply prints money for itself, can afford it. None at all.

    Why? Firstly, the flight hour of a heavy UAV is about twice as expensive as the manned vehicle's LF, and the capabilities are immeasurably lower. Secondly, in fact, all operations with the use of weapons are carried out only in manual mode, for this you need a “thick” satellite communication channel, and for this you need a powerful orbital constellation of military communications and control satellites, which must be launched, replenished, serviced.

    All this results in a tremendous financial failure. In which Russia, of course, does not intend to meddle.
    We create heavy aircraft with other principles of control. We have such idiotic UAVs used by the USA, and the operation of which surpasses the line of “economic madness”, will not be.
    1. Wildfox
      Wildfox 28 February 2017 21: 11
      0
      Летный час MQ-9A 4,762 , F-18 24,400 Объясните "всепропальщику" (коим не являюсь) , Где наф ту ПРОВАААААЛ!! fool
      Infa from Diefens One. According to estimates in the operation against the caliphate.
  21. Mentat
    Mentat 28 February 2017 22: 58
    +3
    Quote: WildFox
    Flying hour MQ-9A 4,762, F-18 24,400 Explain to the "all-crawler" (which I am not), Where is that PROVAAAAAL !! fool
    Infa from Diefens One. According to estimates in the operation against the caliphate.

    This is cunning, not infa.
    Of course, the cost of the flight hour of a small vehicle directly will be less, obviously (although in the case of RQ-4, on the contrary, everything is very expensive), however:
    1. Drones crash frequency 3 times higher (http://www.americansecurityproject.org/the-us-an
    d-its-uavs-a-cost-benefit-analysis /)
    2. To carry out a mission of a heavy UAV, more than 80 (!) People are required to be involved (ibid.).
    3. When indicating the cost of a flight hour of drones, the cost of operating a satellite constellation is modestly silent, without the use of which missions will never be carried out in practice.
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 1 March 2017 09: 37
      +6
      Thank. But I didn’t think about the cost of operating the corresponding satellite constellation. Information for consideration.
    2. Jabal
      Jabal 1 March 2017 10: 03
      0
      Mentat: It is for these 3 reasons (well, plus two more unannounced ones) that at least two of our devices languish and are not even allowed to run / test. At least I only know two)). They have slightly different functions than the shown Chinese drone, but these functions are completely covered by the existing weapons with a crew (1-2 people).