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In Ukraine, recognized the coup d'etat

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According to the newspaper "Look", Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov said that he was trying to usurp power in the country, excluding the possibility of influencing the course of events by its President Viktor Yanukovych:

On the air, Yanukovych complained that I wanted to destroy him by capturing his helicopter. The truth was that I really tried to catch him and bring him to Kiev.

- he explained.

In Ukraine, recognized the coup d'etat


According to A. Turchinov, he was able to force the helicopter with V. Yanukovych to land in Donetsk, while failing to detain the head of state.

According to him, the detention of the incumbent president was required in order to make him officially resign, since he could "settle in any eastern region of the country and announce the transfer of his administration there."

As far as he is aware, the Constitution of the state assumes that the president may lose his powers in case of death, and also may "get sick, go crazy and may be declared incapacitated, may resign himself." At the same time, "there is no concept of" fugitive president "in the Constitution." For this reason, his detention and the subsequent legitimization of the transfer of power were required. Namely, he was going to "convince him to write a letter of voluntary resignation and then send him to the Lukyanovskiy SIZO."

Thus, A. Turchinov, with his statement, recognized the February events in Ukraine as a coup d'état, since there was no formal transfer of power. Guided by similar considerations, at the end of December, the Dorogomilovsky court in Moscow recognized the events of 2014 in Ukraine as a coup d'etat.
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  1. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 28 February 2017 06: 40
    +69
    Well, they admitted, then what !? Comrades, stop balaboling! We live sadly in the world of capitalism, speed, specifics and fast food. We need specifics! Crimea is specific, Syria is specific, Donbass is specific !!! Turchinov and others like him in jail or in the ground, it will be specific!
    1. SSR
      SSR 28 February 2017 07: 03
      +21
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Well, they admitted, then what !? Comrades, stop balaboling! We live sadly in the world of capitalism, speed, specifics and fast food. We need specifics! Crimea is specific, Syria is specific, Donbass is specific !!! Turchinov and others like him in jail or in the ground, it will be specific!

      How specific and sharp you are, it is dear to listen to.
      Unfortunately, in all these specifics, there is also a policy and a strategy ...
      To our great regret, today Truchinov is in power, this is concrete and for the embodiment of a different format of concrete, its own political, economic and even "social" is being waged, that is, the struggle for the views and thinking of people.
      If we understand the situation correctly ... then the people who are ready to shoot 100% in the backs of the Russians in Ukraine have significantly diminished in three years, just as the "desire" of Europe to feed and fuel the flame of the civil war in 404 diminishes.
      1. Pavel Koltunov
        Pavel Koltunov 28 February 2017 08: 46
        +2
        specifics ... there is a struggle for the views and thinking of people.

        Moreover, and on the couch! What a disgusting face Turchinov has ... How am I him?
        1. freejack
          freejack 28 February 2017 12: 20
          +4
          as if the rest are handsome? ... Look at the pig and the egg-lover ... It feels like they were specially selected for their outward disgust and dislike ... ugh !!! ... am
        2. Monarchist
          Monarchist 28 February 2017 16: 10
          0
          Pavel, you are right: Turcheninov's harya is disgusting, for me so Pan Pedro will be prettier
      2. Monarchist
        Monarchist 28 February 2017 16: 07
        +1
        SSR: "people who are ready to shoot 100% in the back of the Russians, in / in Ukraine there has been a significant decrease in three years ..." and even 20-1,5 years ago they were not.
        We have many ethnic Ukrainians and even they are already afraid to visit their relatives in: Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov (I personally know 12 people from these places)
      3. Abel
        Abel 28 February 2017 18: 18
        +1
        "The number of people ready to shoot 100% in the backs of the Russians in / in Ukraine has significantly decreased in three years." Not decreased, but increased. Brainwashing, grown up kids who don't know stories other than being hammered into their heads
    2. ARES623
      ARES623 28 February 2017 07: 12
      +13
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Well, they admitted, then what !? Comrades, stop balaboling! We live sadly in the world of capitalism, speed, specifics and fast food. We need specifics!

      Diarrhea is specific. Politics is the art of the possible. Thank God that people who ignore "specifics" in this interpretation are engaged in our foreign policy. I must admit, Dmitry, that the horizon is too close from your hummock, and therefore you are not able to take into account a huge number of factors affecting the existence of the country of your flag.
      1. cost
        cost 28 February 2017 12: 14
        +4
        ARES623: I must admit, Dmitry, that the horizon is too close from your bump, and therefore you are not able to take into account a huge number of factors

        And why is he, unlike you, unable to take into account a huge number of factors? What did you draw this conclusion from? From the text of his message? Or out of personal hostility? Or maybe you just consider yourself a great analyst?
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 28 February 2017 18: 38
          +1
          Quote: Rich
          And why is he, unlike you, unable to take into account a huge number of factors?

          I also cannot take into account much that should be taken into account, because due to my position I do not have all the information that the Supreme Commander uses when making decisions. And if today he only recognized the LDNR documents, then he did exactly what was possible, and at the same time left something for a snack, i.e. in reserve. And this action is not for Kiev, but for the guarantor partners.
          And the call for Turchinov to land is nothing more than a run in front of a steam locomotive, and on a different track. Or maybe you, rich, are ready to lead a trip to Kiev tomorrow? After all, you agree that it's enough to talk about? I also think that Kiev should be taken, but later, when conditions are ripe. You just need to understand that it is inappropriate today to do work for the Ukrainian inhabitants, who even sit in Donetsk in anticipation of manna from heaven. Donetsk people will not be appreciated, but in Odessa, Kiev and Kharkov they will also shoot in the back. Then, somehow, they remembered about Syria. This is right. The ground component is from the aborigines, and the aerospace forces are on top of cover. This should be the same in Ukraine. And here you don't have to be a "great analyst" to see that the Ukrainians themselves do not want to send Turchynov to the pre-trial detention center, they do not want to fight the Banderaites, and the leaders-organizers of the liberation are not visible. Who will be there to deal with "specifics"? You? Dmitry Potapov? Where is that "partisan detachment with a traitor" that will follow you? ..... You need not only eat in your head.
          1. cost
            cost 28 February 2017 19: 29
            +3
            ARES623: Maybe you, rich, are ready to head the campaign to Kiev tomorrow? After all, you agree that it’s enough to balabit? .. Where is that “partisan detachment with a traitor” that will follow you? ..... It’s not only necessary to eat.

            I will try to answer:
            1. In my campaigns, I, unfortunately, already departed. And, earlier, when I had to, I didn’t ask myself, and I didn’t call others from the armored car, excuse me, such an omen
            2. I absolutely agree with Dmitry Potapov, about balabalstvo without specifics. But not in the sense in which you interpreted his statement, it is not clear why the Supreme Commander-in-chief has been dragged here and you have no complete information and my partisan detachment invented by you. I especially liked that, ascribing to me your desire to take Kiev, you immediately reproached me for it: they say early, not now, then, when the conditions are ripe.
            This is called balobolstvo without specifics .... It’s necessary not only to eat
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 28 February 2017 19: 45
              +1
              Quote: Rich
              To my regret, I already left on my hikes.

              Quote: Rich
              I absolutely agree with Dmitry Potapov about balabolism without specifics

              That is, you don't want to hike, but for specifics in the form of capturing Turchinov? As in the song, the corporal commands "forward", but he himself, of course, lags behind .... Somehow it smells bad. He recognized the documents of the LDNR as his decree, and the President stopped there, and you ask me, why is the Supreme Commander here? Either you read it every other time, or by the end of the phrase you forget the beginning. This is not in my department, sorry. Here a glycine would have to drink ...
    3. Finches
      Finches 28 February 2017 07: 58
      +25
      I look at the photo of this bloody clown and once again I am convinced that only Ukrainians can manage to put a Jew, a thief-practitioner on their necks, make an unshaven sectarian the secretary of the Security Council, appoint the head of the Rada a burly murderer with a correction from a durk, the Prosecutor General of the recently retired from prison a convict without legal education, to approve a leaky Armenian as the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... is far from a complete list, and meekly fulfill all their whims ... laughing
      And then the comrades here still reproach me for calling Ukrainians abnormal people ... laughing
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 28 February 2017 08: 26
        +12
        Do you remember what happened in Russia in the 90s? Relapses still occur. And Chubais is still held in high esteem with grandmothers, and Shuvalov's dogs, and Ramzan Kadyrov is a respected person with political weight on a federal scale. And what do you order ordinary people to do in such a situation, whose opinions about the political / economic situation were not even asked, but they loaded their heads from the TV with all sorts of shit?
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 February 2017 08: 33
          +5
          Among Ukrainians, our entire circus of the 90s is hypertrophied at times, we woke up because we have the gene of statehood, but I personally doubt that Ukrainians are coming to their senses ...
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 28 February 2017 09: 17
            +4
            Quote: Finches
            Among Ukrainians, our entire circus of the 90s is hypertrophied at times, we woke up because we have the gene of statehood, but I personally doubt that Ukrainians are coming to their senses ...

            They are going to Europe with the whole baggage, and they do not care about their state.
          2. Curious
            Curious 28 February 2017 09: 36
            +7
            Your statehood gene came from St. Petersburg and EBN gave him the post. At the same time, no one asked the people and did not even think to involve them in solving this issue. It's just that human memory is very short. And it's not a fact that your statehood gene has a worthy replacement.
            1. Finches
              Finches 28 February 2017 09: 38
              +5
              Envy silently! hi
            2. ARES623
              ARES623 1 March 2017 15: 44
              +1
              Quote: Curious
              It's just that human memory is very short.

              Gold words!!! Here are the people under your flag and do not remember any x ... ra! Who took them out from under the Poles, shod them, dressed them and fed them to their detriment? Forgot. And the gene of statehood in Ukraine really did not exist and is not present today. There are attempts, but there is no state. Because everyone is the smartest and the free one for himself. And freedom is perceived by the active majority as lawlessness and disregard for legal restrictions. It is impossible to build a state with this kind of thinking. The Poles also tried until Poland was divided. Even today it would be worth dividing or making it pay for WWII on a par with Germany. Where one lion leads a herd of rams to satiety and prosperity, a herd of lions scatters and dies of hunger. Be proud of your "freedom", you ungrateful tv.
          3. 97110
            97110 28 February 2017 11: 02
            +2
            Quote: Finches
            because we have the gene of statehood

            Until 99 it wasn’t, but since 2003 it’s flooded ... As I see this word, the whole anecdote is remembered: "The Negro was born, he was named Gena." Who was Gena born to? At EBN? He sort of pulled the GDP out of wide trousers. And would give birth to EBN Nemtsov, there would be no Gena? There would be no country without a question. All of Russia would have prayed for Maxim and Biden, his prophet.
            1. Finches
              Finches 28 February 2017 11: 07
              +4
              Not for the first time in Russia the time of troubles happened and we always got out of it right! I hope you know the story well ... And they came out because the centuries-old history of statehood was behind us, the same thing happened in the 90s ... Therefore, Nemtsov could not come, or in any case, his age would not be long - the people of Russia reject similar leaders ... How in the 17th century the Poles were thrown out of Moscow, who carried Catholicism to Russia, and in 1917 they rejected the pro-Western, liberal Provisional Government ...! And in Ukraine, the turmoil for 25 years and only gets worse, because they have no historical memory - they have nothing to dance from!
              1. 97110
                97110 28 February 2017 11: 39
                +5
                Quote: Finches
                Not for the first time in Russia the time of troubles happened and we always got out of it right!

                I would have to agree. But Marxist-Leninist education does not allow relying entirely on God's help. And, as you know, the Lord helps those who work. Law enforcement agencies still failed to deal with Mara, and today they showed her friends on TV. How they all drift on Bentleys on the Sparrow Hills. Will the Lord, instead of our state, be harnessed? If we ourselves do not want to fight back, or we want to, but it doesn’t work out, maybe it’s better to change us? On other God's Chosen? Chinese, for example?
          4. gladcu2
            gladcu2 28 February 2017 16: 12
            0
            Zyablintsev

            There was no self-government from you (the people) in Russia at 90.

            You (the people) are lucky that the GDP has competently settled. And now the GDP rules competently. And the economy leads competently in SOCIALISM, lowering the surplus value.

            Learn to define an economic system. What is capitalism and what is socialism. Any policy is a mirror of the economic system.

            For example, why is monopoly good and material competition bad? What is the motivation for work in different economic systems. What is surplus value. How can one move from one economic system to another using the usual, simple, available levers of influence on the economy.

            For example, Karl Marx's definition of capitalism depends on the ownership of the means of production and the possibility of creating surplus value.

            Nowadays, it turns out that surplus value can be significantly reduced by critically INCREASING bank interest. Thus, having driven the rat of capitalism into a far corner with a broom. And at the same time, there is no painful redistribution of private property.
            1. EternalStranger
              EternalStranger 6 March 2017 23: 37
              0
              Quote: gladcu2
              And at the same time, there is no painful redistribution of private property.

              then Russia has become one of the world leaders in terms of social inequality.
      2. tolyasik0577
        tolyasik0577 28 February 2017 09: 43
        +9
        - only Ukrainians can manage to put a Jew on their neck

        Nothing of the kind, the people of Ukraine did not even ask. Everyone decided the money and the good organization of the coup. The CIA relied on the outright bastard, a merciless frostbitten killer. In his place there could have been a broken sash, but it turned out to be dumber. Which of the Ukrainians knew about him at all, well, except for a narrow circle of frostbitten Bandera people. And with his statement, the Turchinyak only harmed his already bloody reputation.
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 February 2017 09: 46
          +8
          Your words for the poor ..."Not for the sake of selfishness, but only by the will of the wife who sent me"
          40 million poor and duped Ukrainians, for some reason do not forget to complete already 6 waves of mobilization of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Dorbats, as well as 54% of those who voted for Petsu with a turnout of 59% - more than half of the poor and duped ... hi
        2. Curious
          Curious 28 February 2017 10: 53
          +3
          Your objections are unlikely to be heard. Sofa passionaries - they are like wood grouses on a current, they only hear themselves. But this is while on the couch they are Julia and Caesari. In real life, usually they are not dangerous, quiet and modest.
          1. Finches
            Finches 28 February 2017 15: 12
            0
            No, dear, you can only hear yourself - it's so easy for you - "I'm not guilty! He came himself!" Although for the millions of Ukrainians who remained under the junta, there is a wonderful example of Crimea and Donbass! hi
            1. Curious
              Curious 28 February 2017 16: 04
              +1
              Have you been to Donbass for a long time? Or sofas from St. Petersburg to Donbass do not fly?
              1. Finches
                Finches 1 March 2017 05: 31
                +2
                Dear, I’m lying on the couch and I’m not going to get up from it without special need ... What Donbass? I'm too lazy to get to the bakery ... laughing hi
              2. 9lvariag
                9lvariag 5 March 2017 09: 35
                0
                Curious - are you sick, do you write to us "in real time" from the trench near Donetsk filtering? Probably so?
                Or a candle at the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, hold?
                Agent "007" you are our ...
        3. 9lvariag
          9lvariag 5 March 2017 09: 33
          0
          We knew both Parubiy and Trupchinov and other aliens, such as the Minister of Justice with a diploma from the courses.
      3. ssergn
        ssergn 28 February 2017 15: 49
        +1
        Quote: Finches

        20
        Zyablitsev ↑  
        Today, 07: 58
        I look at the photo of this bloody clown and once again I am convinced that only Ukrainians can manage to put a Jew, a thief-practitioner on their necks, make an unshaven sectarian the secretary of the Security Council, appoint the head of the Rada a burly murderer with a correction from a durk, the Prosecutor General of the recently retired from prison a convict without legal education, to approve a leaky Armenian as the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... is far from a complete list, and meekly fulfill all their whims ...
        And then the comrades here still reproach me for calling Ukrainians abnormal people ...


        Leprosorium opened the doors ..
    4. tol100v
      tol100v 28 February 2017 09: 48
      +1
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Turchinov and others like him in jail or in the ground, it will be specific!

      Disinfection on his forehead, and many more with them, and, unfortunately, with US!
    5. Berkut752
      Berkut752 28 February 2017 15: 44
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Well, they admitted, then what !? Comrades, stop balaboling! We live sadly in the world of capitalism, speed, specifics and fast food. We need specifics! Crimea is specific, Syria is specific, Donbass is specific !!! Turchinov and others like him in jail or in the ground, it will be specific!

      You are too naive and impatient. Patience is man's main ally, but not everyone understands this. You know, not all pilots, for example, are taken into fighters and attack aircraft, there it takes a split second to take and perform any actions, but a sniper, like a politician, can wait for that moment even for days, a politician for years. For good politicians, "Fruit" must ripen and fall into the hands of itself. Patience, my friend, patience.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 28 February 2017 17: 59
        +3
        The more the Kiev authorities dissolve the language, the more articles they slander themselves.
        I remember how Aliyev, having come to power, went and calmed his own people in order to extinguish the war in Nag. Kar .; and Turchynov, on the contrary, fired up Donbass before the war.
        Life shines for him - let the mines in Donbass restore for life. hi
  2. inkass_98
    inkass_98 28 February 2017 06: 41
    +7
    And what's the point of his confessions? Recognition is no longer the queen of proofs, in this case there is so much heaped up in the Ruin that the overthrow and flight of Yanukovych is only a small episode in the overall picture of the catastrophe. The Pastor will not escape his fate anyway, the extra crush does not solve anything.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 February 2017 06: 52
    +2
    by the spring it woke up - "sponges-chicken ass" ... laughing demands attention ...
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 February 2017 06: 52
    +8
    Yanukovych is so "not a figure" that he is just "ah". Why are there so many jumps around him lately? All that could be done "not right" - he did. Pretty primitive character.
    wassat
    1. Dashout
      Dashout 28 February 2017 09: 51
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Yanukovych is so "not a figure" that he is just "ah". Why are there so many jumps around him lately? All that could be done "not right" - he did. Pretty primitive character.

      And what about Yanukovych? What do you repeat after the Ukrainian propaganda .. For me, it's better Yanukovych than Turchynov, Parashenko, Yatsenyuk, who else is there ... - all of the same suit ..
      1. EternalStranger
        EternalStranger 6 March 2017 23: 38
        0
        Quote: Dashout
        it's better Yanukovych

        the better is that?
  5. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 28 February 2017 06: 55
    +5
    What a disgusting face! © K / f "Gentlemen of Fortune".
  6. midshipman
    midshipman 28 February 2017 06: 59
    +4
    Why is the world tribunal inactive? This Kiev junta needs to be hanged, and some of them are still being warmed up in the USA, Germany, France. I have the honor.
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    2. byxarik1
      byxarik1 28 February 2017 07: 23
      +2
      because the "MIR" represented by the EU and the US, if they recognize this fact, then it discredits itself in the eyes of the rest of the WORLD and its own citizens! but sooner or later it will happen drinks
    3. Per se.
      Per se. 28 February 2017 08: 05
      +15
      Quote: midshipman
      This Kiev junta needs to be hanged
      To begin with, this junta, and its "elections", should not have been recognized by Russia itself, especially since it has a legitimate president of Ukraine "in exile." Since our government recognized the farce with the elections, it actually recognized the junta and allowed it to legalize itself. And for a long time now the "singers of the Kremlin" will write excuses for the failure in Ukraine and praise of the "cunning plan." As for the "world tribunal", do you, Yuri Grigorievich, do not know that this tribunal was created for the interests of world capital, and feeds from the hands of the United States, which, in fact, financed the junta in Kiev, like the coup d'etat itself.
    4. 97110
      97110 28 February 2017 11: 11
      +4
      Quote: midshipman
      Why is the world tribunal inactive?

      Where is this? Let's create, papers to write "Sinclair Roche" will we hire? Or these won't come - they're from London. Who will go? Whom the Yankees recognize in the UN at the stage of the formation of the tribunal, so to speak ... We will hire the Buryats as judges. Sami, without the UN. Or Khanty from Mansi - they beat a squirrel in the eye, the skins of the executed will be more intact. And they move without noise, the twig in the taiga will not crunch.
    5. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 28 February 2017 15: 32
      +3
      Quote: midshipman
      Why is the world tribunal inactive? This Kiev junta needs to be hanged, and some of them are still being warmed up in the USA, Germany, France.


      And you remember the composition of the world tribunal. All of them are recruited from the same cauldron. Devils are devils. There would be all of them in that cauldron ... But there are too many sympathizers ...
    6. ssergn
      ssergn 28 February 2017 15: 53
      +2
      Quote: midshipman
      Why is the world tribunal inactive? This Kiev junta needs to be hanged, and some of them are still being warmed up in the USA, Germany, France. I have the honor.



      And who went there? Janek, no?
      To be honest, not strong in international law. But the question is, does Yanukovych have a chance with such an appeal? If so, when will the time come?
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 February 2017 07: 01
    +4
    The state constitution suggests that the president may lose his powers in case of death, and can also "get sick, go crazy and may be declared incompetent, he can resign himself".

    Then he would have fallen into the hands of Turchinov and "officially" lost his powers. In this case, it would be difficult to argue about a coup. Although everyone would know what and how, but legally, everything would be formalized correctly. Here's the catch.
    1. ssergn
      ssergn 28 February 2017 15: 54
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Then he would have fallen into the hands of Turchinov and "officially" lost his powers. In this case, it would be difficult to argue about a coup. Although everyone would know what and how, but legally, everything would be formalized correctly. Here's the catch.


      That is why Yanukovych is in Rostov. No wonder they hid it, oh, no wonder.
  8. ALLxANDr
    ALLxANDr 28 February 2017 07: 09
    +4
    Well, actually it was far from a secret! And the catch is really that the current president is not legitimate !!! And this purely fact makes the snake spin in a frying pan)
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 28 February 2017 07: 26
      +4
      Quote: ALLxANDr
      the current president is not legitimate !!! And this pure fact makes uzhik spin in a frying pan)

      Not noticeable, absolutely not noticeable!
      And yet, purely rhetorically, why is it not legitimate? Uncle Sam recognized as legitimate? Admitted! So what are the questions?
      Forgotten, completely forgotten
      “If a gentleman cannot win by the rules, then the gentleman changes the rules.”
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 28 February 2017 09: 42
        +1
        Quote: Cynic
        And yet, purely rhetorically, why is it not legitimate? Uncle Sam recognized as legitimate? Admitted! So what are the questions?

        Questions and answers are found in the Constitution. The procedure for removing the president has been violated, which means this is an anti-constitutional act of seizing power. Then, by the way, the decision of the Dorogomilovsky court about the recognition of the Kiev authorities as illegitimate, then Yanukovych's appeal to the leaders of the guarantor countries, the OSCE and the UN about the need to hold a referendum on the LPNR (like the "president" reminded of himself), now this is Turchinov's confession ... ... All this coincided with the departure to the side of the Obama administration and the next change in the figures of "guarantors" Merkel and Hollande. Probably everything goes to the fact that the urkainu will be reformatted in the near future in terms of changing the president, which is now an absolute problem for all interested participants in the Ukrainian crisis, both from the United States and Europe, and from Russia. A relatively neutral figure will be brought to power who will suit everyone and will allow them to begin to bring this territory to "self-sufficiency" by removing it from the burden of financial content.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 3 March 2017 19: 12
          0
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          in the near future they will reformat in terms of a change of president

          Just before that, it will be necessary for them to format pravosekov and natsbaty. Apparently, their formatting started through military operations.
  9. Evil 55
    Evil 55 28 February 2017 07: 15
    +2
    only three years passed before the truth about the goals of the Maidan was established. Not "Eurointegration", it turns out, was needed, but "Usurpation" .. How much more information is recognized and published while Don Pedro is in power ..
    1. 9lvariag
      9lvariag 5 March 2017 09: 39
      0
      Yes, that's for sure. Neither Parubiy, nor Turchinov, nor Yaytsenyukh - nor who would choose president in their right mind.
  10. Verkhomnapule
    Verkhomnapule 28 February 2017 07: 25
    +5
    Yanukovych is an incapacitated, soft-bodied and weak-willed coward, profiled the country, although he could have acted harshly back in December and crush this Bandera-Anglo-Saxon scum at the root, an act of a man was needed
    , but he forgot to send troops and give an order, by the way, quite constitutional, to suppress an armed coup in the country! It is very sad to have such a leader, now it will take a long time to disentangle this mess on ukroshka !!
    1. user3970
      user3970 28 February 2017 08: 18
      +10
      Crap ! The world around us only respects strength. The SGA state is a strong state. And it wanted to spit on the opinion of others. I wanted Vietnam - bombed and burned with napalm in full. Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq ... Sga, as a strong state, is responsible only to its voters. The American president, Nixon, was tried only once for the fact that he violated internal rules by tapping a competitor. Let's admit that Russia is not the USSR under the leadership of Stalin or Brezhnev, and not the Russian Empire during the time of Alexander II and Catherine. And just a second-rate power, the Leaders of which are blathering something out there in an undertone so that the main boss does not hear and does not take any measures. We forget that more than half (modestly) of the Senate and the State Duma have dual citizenship, that 2% of politicians or children or business are in the West, that many in the government have been trained in local universities, which means that a priori they can be agents of influence of the local special services. And for your own blood or for your own money and your homeland to sell? How much? Here, sitting on this forum, pissing boiling water on Poroshenko. Here, you bastard, is bombing and shooting its citizens in (on) the Donbass! And the rest of the Ukrainians outside Donbass - in Kiev, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, where are they? Let's remember the first Chechen one! Doesn't this remind you of anything, chicken with the proper memory ?! And how did Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg and others live at this time? dances, schmans, business, all sorts of things ... And the genocide and bombing of 90 Russians who at that time lived there Donetsk does not resemble? And the Russian Poroshenko completely rested on Novodevichy, had a mausoleum, and his family steers and pulls the strings of the current leader. So before condemning anyone, let's take the beam out of our own eyes. I apologize for the harshness. I got sick. I have the honor.
      1. Dashout
        Dashout 28 February 2017 10: 01
        +9
        This is what you said, mixed ... fasting after all ... I am applying advice from John Chrysostom
        1. user3970
          user3970 28 February 2017 10: 14
          +3
          Dashout. Are you proposing to put a specific male instrument on everything that happens and wait for the river of life to carry the corpse of your enemy?
      2. Curious
        Curious 28 February 2017 11: 04
        +1
        Sanity is not welcomed or perceived here.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 28 February 2017 20: 40
        +1
        Quote: user3970
        Let's admit that Russia is not the USSR under the leadership of Stalin or Brezhnev, and not the Russian Empire during the time of Alexander II and Catherine. And just a second-rate power

        Listen to Barak Huseynich, you retired and are raising rabbits. Why are you here registered and again pulling your mournful song about the fact that Russia is a second-rate power? Add the fact that you have torn the entire economy to shreds for us to complete the picture.
        Quote: user3970
        The leaders of which are blathering in an undertone, so that the main boss does not hear and does not take any measures.

        Well, yes, well, yes ...... The entire "progressive" world is buzzing about the rebellious Putin and how he put all of them on four bones, threatens and appoints presidents to them with one click of the mouse. And you, what are you talking about utterly "in an undertone". This is "in an undertone" so that the boss would not hear more about Urcaine and Europe, and half of them would not guess who your new boss will be Clinton or Trump. Remember - There is no other boss over Russia but God.
        Quote: user3970
        So before we condemn anyone, let's take the beam out of our own eyes.

        Why is there ............ take out
  11. soroKING
    soroKING 28 February 2017 07: 42
    0
    admitted the chick-whipped one ... bully
  12. jovanni
    jovanni 28 February 2017 07: 48
    0
    Lucky you ghoul that yanyk is such a mattress and h ... oh! Long ago I would have read sermons to the dead. I would agitate them for independence ...
  13. Boris63
    Boris63 28 February 2017 07: 56
    +1
    And what? Admitted ... "Geyropa opened her eyes"? No. Although ... in the same Europe. they don’t even know how to “throw off” this Ukraine. It seems like a heavy suitcase. and quit "sorry" ...
  14. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 28 February 2017 08: 01
    +1
    Turchinov is an agent of the Kremlin. laughing This is clear to everyone. laughing

    Just like the entire Rada, the Presidential Administration and the Government, not to mention the National Bank. laughing

    Curiously, groups of agents in one body find agents in another. For PoProshenko, Putin's agents sat down in the Rada as soon as they refuse to vote for something. For the Rada, the agents of the Darkest have dug in the Government - they coordinate draconian memoranda with the IMF there. Poroshenko is an obvious Putin - he signed Minsk-2.

    Circus. laughing
    1. Abel
      Abel 28 February 2017 18: 29
      0
      They are not Putin's agents, they are secret Bolsheviks
  15. RUS33
    RUS33 28 February 2017 09: 00
    +1
    Quote: midshipman
    Why is the world tribunal inactive? This Kiev junta needs to be hanged, and some of them are still being warmed up in the USA, Germany, France. I have the honor.

    They all of them and put (just not there) on the board.
  16. Zahard
    Zahard 28 February 2017 09: 17
    +2
    Americans

    McCain, Nuland, who personally flew in to inspect whether 5 billion was spent correctly
    Americans - Phil Brian, Alex Ros, specialists in computer technology. A full-fledged headquarters that worked together with the protesters, along with the leaders of the protest. We held general meetings, set tasks, gathered all experts in the world on color revolutions in Ukraine, "
    https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2857117#
    Maidan-2014: it was not the elements that ruled the protest
    1. Abel
      Abel 28 February 2017 18: 29
      0
      Correction: is 5 billion stolen right?
  17. nivander
    nivander 28 February 2017 09: 31
    +1
    yes to him all the yak from the gander voditsa - until he gets a hara
  18. masiya
    masiya 28 February 2017 10: 21
    +5
    as such, there is no recognition, only indirectly by statements and veiled conclusions ... but in general, everything is already bad:
  19. Catherine II
    Catherine II 28 February 2017 11: 41
    +4
    Funny headline. Walking through the Russian press, it is only in the Russian press that they called his interview to Censornet in the processing of Donetsk news. Voila - we read the news from the censornet on our own ...
    First, there is no Recognized Coup. Where and who (although I know who and why) invented this?
    Turchinov - giving an interview to Censornet (let's call the original source correctly then) - talked about the complexities of management. The old government was incapable - decisions were required - there was neither the president nor the prime minister in the country. The fact that in the Russian press, as in this article, they loudly called The coup was recognized - it must be called The emergency situation of the formation of a new government was recognized.
    On the air, Yanukovych complained that I wanted to destroy him by capturing a helicopter, but with which he tried to leave the country. The truth was that I really tried to catch him and bring him to Kiev. The fact is that a legal incident has arisen: our legislation does not provide that the president can run away. According to the Constitution, he can die, he can get sick, go crazy, and he can be declared incapacitated, he can resign himself. But there is no concept of "fugitive president" in the Constitution.

    Therefore, it was important for me to catch and deliver Yanukovych to Kiev. I would find "arguments" to convince him to write a letter of voluntary resignation and then send him to the Lukyanovka SIZO, where he would await a fair verdict for his crimes.

    There was another serious danger. He could sit down in any eastern region of the country and announce the transfer of his administration there. This could actually split the country and lead to disastrous consequences. I was able to block his flight out of the country and forced him to land the helicopter. But it is clear that in Donetsk, where he landed, there was no one to detain him. With security, he got into cars and went to the Crimea. We tried to intercept him there too. For this, I sent Avakov and Nalyvaichenko by plane to Crimea, with a small group of volunteers from the special forces. But they could not get him out of there, since Yanukovych hid in the Russian naval base, from which he was transported to Russia.
    The situation in the country demanded immediate decisions, and the parliament, in connection with the failure of Yanukovych, who fled to Russia, to fulfill his presidential functions, instructed me to temporarily act as president. Source: http://censor.net.ua/r429784
    Classic. No recognition of the coup, as in the cases with Gorbachev and the first Russian (or you, too, confess to the coup and the junta). They wanted in the same canons (voluntary resignation - although Yanukovych already agreed to it, but ticked off, after all, the situation was dangerous)
    No confessions of the "coup" were made in Ukraine. On the contrary, here Turchinov just wanted, according to the law and the Constitution, resignation (another thing as) and not an escape.
    The impression is that the headlines are coming up from the bulldozer. Did Turchinov say - I (we) organized a coup?
    No matter how they treat him - if it hadn't been for Ukraine, it would have disintegrated in 2014 ..
    And do you know what the news is called in the primary source?
    ALEXANDER TURCHINOV: "WE UNDERSTOOD THAT MAIDAN WILL END IN BLOOD"
    In general, there is a wide expanse for headlines..there is a Bloody Maidan, and Planning a Bloody Maidan..but they seized on a coup.
    In any case, the coups in Russia and Ukraine were recognized by the United States, the EU and by these countries themselves.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 28 February 2017 16: 31
      +1
      Ekaterina, you have correctly noticed: the words of Turcheninov are interpreted in their own way.
      Actually, we have some kind of inconsistency in relation to the Kiev events: confusion, recognition of Pedro as a legitimate president, now we recognize a coup, but no consequences
  20. irbis0373
    irbis0373 28 February 2017 12: 30
    +4
    The pastor can carry any crap, he is no stranger to it. And in general, to say that he recognized the coup is just to say. Well, what if he blurted it out most likely without thinking?
    Where is Yanukovych now? But Turchynov is in Kiev. You can only collect his past. current and future sayings. may come in handy in the future.
  21. staviator
    staviator 28 February 2017 13: 15
    0
    Quote: midshipman
    Why is the world tribunal inactive? This Kiev junta needs to be hanged, and some of them are still being warmed up in the USA, Germany, France.

    Because they are in the world tribunal, for whom he is crying the same. Who unleashed these warriors in the east? They also unleashed, sharing oil, loot and world domination. And with a bone in their throats Russia, which prevented further prolongation of this bacchanalia in Syria, IRAN, ETC.
  22. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 28 February 2017 13: 30
    +1
    masiya Today, 10:21
    "As such, there is no recognition, only indirectly by statements and veiled conclusions ... but in general everything is like this: ...".
    A collective galitsay manages 404 in a matsacycle. "In general, everything is so ...". Yes, I think Judas found his beloved aspen. Rope to Judas? And so it is clear: you need a tool-peg to hammer. The Serebryans will sideline with generations of gay membership lovers. This is about boneheaded BDSM fans. Galitsayakh.
  23. Karabin
    Karabin 28 February 2017 13: 38
    +4
    Thus, A. Turchinov, with his statement, recognized the February events in Ukraine as a coup d'état,

    Well? Will the West declare Potroshenko illegitimate? Even the Kremlin will not agree to this. Turchinov may even repent on the air. From this, dill will not cease to be a "victim of Russian aggression", and Crimea will not cease to be an "occupied territory." The bottom line, recognized as legitimate by the Kiev government. Moreover, by all countries, including the Russian Federation. Crimea, not recognized by Russia, by almost all countries, including allies in the CSTO.
  24. Anti-fascist
    Anti-fascist 28 February 2017 15: 47
    0
    "He recognized the February events in Ukraine as a coup d'etat, since there was no formal transfer of power." - and before someone said that she was? According to Turchinov, on the contrary, to Yanukovych proposed to legitimately transfer power.
  25. Monarchist
    Monarchist 28 February 2017 16: 16
    0
    Quote: ARES623
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    Well, they admitted, then what !? Comrades, stop balaboling! We live sadly in the world of capitalism, speed, specifics and fast food. We need specifics!

    Diarrhea is specific. Politics is the art of the possible. Thank God that people who ignore "specifics" in this interpretation are engaged in our foreign policy. I must admit, Dmitry, that the horizon is too close from your hummock, and therefore you are not able to take into account a huge number of factors affecting the existence of the country of your flag.

    I don't like your humiliation of your flag.
  26. Penzyac
    Penzyac 28 February 2017 18: 30
    0
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Quote: Cynic
    And yet, purely rhetorically, why is it not legitimate? Uncle Sam recognized as legitimate? Admitted! So what are the questions?

    ... A relatively neutral figure will be brought to power who will suit everyone and will allow them to begin to bring this territory to "self-sufficiency" by removing it from the burden of financial content.

    In the 404 country, this is absolutely not possible, this is nonsense. It is not possible to find a candidate who suits everyone, and if, hypothetically, such a candidate was found, it would be a complete zero in all respects, the interests of the interested parties are too different: the Bandera militants and the oligarchs, the Westerners and the non-Westerners, passing ...
  27. Barguzin
    Barguzin 28 February 2017 21: 00
    0
    Why is this chicken ass talking, feeling the strength or the end of all the crazy Bandera.
  28. Natalia777
    Natalia777 1 March 2017 08: 06
    +1
    Yanukovych survived. What makes the Kiev government legally illegitimate. An armed coup took place and Yanukovych and Azarov are living witnesses of this coup.
  29. cergey51046
    cergey51046 4 March 2017 17: 52
    0
    A coup d'état prepared and carried out by the United States.
  30. cergey51046
    cergey51046 4 March 2017 17: 55
    0
    I wonder where our former titles have gone, for what reason were we demoted?
  31. 9lvariag
    9lvariag 5 March 2017 09: 30
    0
    Quote: Finches
    Not for the first time in Russia the time of troubles happened and we always got out of it right! I hope you know the story well ... And they came out because the centuries-old history of statehood was behind us, the same thing happened in the 90s ... Therefore, Nemtsov could not come, or in any case, his age would not be long - the people of Russia reject similar leaders ... How in the 17th century the Poles were thrown out of Moscow, who carried Catholicism to Russia, and in 1917 they rejected the pro-Western, liberal Provisional Government ...! And in Ukraine, the turmoil for 25 years and only gets worse, because they have no historical memory - they have nothing to dance from!
    I agree with you, I will add the current, as a Crimean - there has always been a conflict from ancient times to the wild 1917. This is even from the nat. character depends. Well, those who do not know how to consolidate are those who only care for their garden, hut and cattle in their genes. They have forgotten how to do it already. And Bogdashka Khmelnitsky and Karmelyuk are only harmful exceptions for this part of Eurasia, due to a misunderstanding between Gorbaty and EBN, which took shape politically and became a country.
  32. Fiber forehead
    Fiber forehead 5 March 2017 17: 59
    +1
    We know who declared war on us. Question. What to do?
  33. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 6 March 2017 18: 50
    0
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    Well, they admitted, then what !? Comrades, stop balaboling! We live sadly in the world of capitalism, speed, specifics and fast food. We need specifics! Crimea is specific, Syria is specific, Donbass is specific !!! Turchinov and others like him in jail or in the ground, it will be specific!


    You should have a saber and a horse and into the line of fire ...
    ... (further there is another wisdom of Leonid Filatov)
    Are you such a freak on Saturdays or what?
    (no offense, please).

    If in essence, then everyone should mind their own business. Then there will be order.
    East is a delicate matter.