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"Ukroboronprom" promised to transfer to the troops 60 aircraft

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This year, the Air Force of Ukraine will receive from the defense industry 60 repaired and upgraded combat aircraft, reports League.News Post Air Force Commander Sergei Drozdov.

"Ukroboronprom" promised to transfer to the troops 60 aircraft


From the enterprises of the concern "Ukroboronprom" this year we should receive about 60 repaired and modernized aircraft,
said Drozdov.

According to him, this number includes “fighters MiG-29 and Su-27, attack aircraft Su-25, bombers Su-24 and combat training L-39”.

“Also, the Air Force will receive up to five repaired and partially modernized anti-aircraft missile systems and more 15 electronic and electronic reconnaissance assets”, - added the commander.

According to various sources, during the conflict in the east of the country, the Ukrainian army lost about 28 aircraft, including 11 aircraft. Currently fighting aviation in the Donbass is not applicable.

Sergey Drozdov
Photos used:
http://na.mil.gov.ua
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  1. mgero
    mgero 23 February 2017 16: 31
    +4
    You got a maximum of 6.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 23 February 2017 16: 38
      +21
      As smart people say: to promise does not mean to marry. Once the representative of the Ukrainians promised that in the USSR by 1980 communism would be built.
      1. cniza
        cniza 23 February 2017 17: 22
        +9
        And where will they get the pilots? and hardly believe in this figure.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 23 February 2017 18: 40
          +3
          Quote: cniza
          And where will they get the pilots? and hardly believe in this figure.

          As where? Will call gamers ... wassat They formed the Internet troops ... laughing
          1. Pancer
            Pancer 23 February 2017 19: 34
            +4
            It seems that so many aircraft .. not so much what was repaired, how much was supplied with black schemes from the availability of aircraft from the former Warsaw block .. They will find pilots, up to the mercenaries.
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        2. Catherine II
          Catherine II 23 February 2017 18: 51
          +7
          Quote: cniza
          And where will they get the pilots? and hardly believe in this figure.

          Kharkov University of Air Force named after Ivan Kozhedub
          (KNUVS) in 2016 year took 800 cadets
          1. Suhow
            Suhow 24 February 2017 00: 32
            +2
            800 cadets are not 800 pilots. Air traffic controller ...
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 24 February 2017 12: 57
            +2
            Quote: Catherine II
            (KNUVS) in 2016 year took 800 cadets

            add 5 years to study at the university (2021), plus five years to learn how to at least do take-off and landing (2026) ...
        3. 73bor
          73bor 23 February 2017 21: 57
          0
          Yes, pilots are one thing, but the news is presented as if these planes themselves were being released! ? Well repaired, and WHAT ...
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 23 February 2017 22: 35
            +2
            This year they will receive from the defense industry 60 repaired and modernized combat aircraft

            belay
            ALMIGHTY MAGIC !!!

            [media = https: //youtu.be/Ri_ZEVXQV24]
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      3. Evgenijus
        Evgenijus 23 February 2017 18: 14
        +2
        oleg-gr:
        ... a representative of the Ukrainians promised that communism would be built in the USSR by the year 1980.


        I remember this promise on the labels of matchboxes of those early years.
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 23 February 2017 18: 25
          +2
          Label abbreviated as "CHX"? Which the people received the transcript: "The country needs a master - the owner found himself - the most real ham - Khrushchev Nikita Sergeevich." )))
        2. Catherine II
          Catherine II 24 February 2017 12: 46
          +2
          Quote: Evgenijus
          oleg-gr:
          ... a representative of the Ukrainians promised that communism would be built in the USSR by the year 1980.

          I remember this promise on the labels of matchboxes of those early years.

          31 October 1961 year at the XXII Congress of the party-representative of the Kursk region. Although if it is Ukraine, if you please ...
          Khrushchev promised communism for 20 years, Brezhnev each young family a separate apartment, Zhirinovsky every single woman ....
    2. seti
      seti 23 February 2017 16: 54
      +2
      They are waiting for the promised three years .. And here you can immediately write off the promise in the scrap.
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 23 February 2017 17: 42
        +10
        To get 60 repaired and upgraded, you need at least 240 damaged and understaffed. Do they have any?
        And most importantly - do not forget to paint. In the colors of the flag. And without this, modernization is not considered.
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 23 February 2017 18: 28
          +1
          And if you connect the Soviet reserves of Poland-Hungary-Bulgaria? With the world on a sliver - a dead coffin.
          1. dzvero
            dzvero 23 February 2017 19: 13
            +2
            It is unlikely that the Su-24 and Su-27 were not supplied to the ATS countries (although I may be wrong). Mig-29 ... there are not so many left, including spare parts. Su-25 - more likely. They have long been withdrawn from service and can sell the remaining illiquid assets. L-39 - I don’t know if the Czechs produce spare parts.
            And Ukraine does not shine - everyone already knows that the main principle of trading with her is "chairs in the morning for money in the evening," and not vice versa.
        2. jovanni
          jovanni 24 February 2017 08: 46
          +2
          To get 60 repaired and upgraded, you need at least 240 damaged and understaffed. Do they have any?

          Nothing, for starters, everything that is damaged and understaffed, well, then we'll see ...
    3. venik
      venik 23 February 2017 19: 58
      0
      [quote = mgero] You will receive a maximum of 6 errors. [/ quote]
      [quote = mgero]
      ======
      Yes, even if all 60! ..... The question is one - will they fly ???
    4. Slovak
      Slovak 23 February 2017 21: 08
      +4
      Isn’t it embarrassing for dill to use Soviet and Russian aircraft? And where are your own, your own design? But what about desovetization and self-independence? I hope that DNR residents will not be ashamed to use air defense systems.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 24 February 2017 08: 11
        +2
        Quote: Slovak
        Isn’t it embarrassing for dill to use Soviet and Russian aircraft?

        ... and the names too:
        Quote: Catherine II
        Kharkov University of Air Force named after Ivan Kozhedub

        ... it’s zrada, to name the ukrov institution in the name of three times Hero of the Soviet Union!
        1. Ostwest
          Ostwest 24 February 2017 08: 45
          0
          Ukrainians are not only visionaries with a made-up story, but also impostors. They asked the Russian Kozhedub, does he consider himself a dodger? Today, to be ukrom is a universal disgrace in ukro-dialect - ganba and zrada. A drunk, stupid man with a forelock in a yellow-black-haired poncho, goggling his zenki (eyes), screams with good obscenities S ..U..G..S .. and jumps. Immediately, according to normal, in a fool, and if so half the country jumps? Does anyone work for them? Just wring each other.
        2. Catherine II
          Catherine II 24 February 2017 13: 00
          +1
          Quote: V.ic
          It’s zrada, to name the ukrov institution after the name of the Hero of the Soviet Union three times!

          Born in the USSR, where is the zrada? Native of Ukraine (USSR / Ukrainian land)

          I note that, during the ATO, 28 graduates of the Kharkov University of Air Force died. Help "SQ". Kharkov University of Air Force named after Ivan Kozhedub begins its history from November 12 to 1930 of the year - the founding day of the 9-th military school of military pilots and observer pilots. Over the long history, more than 125 thousand officers have been trained at the university. Among the graduates and personnel of the University, 6 Heroes of Ukraine, 578 Heroes of the Soviet Union, of which 28 twice Heroes of the Soviet Union, 58 servicemen were awarded state awards for exploits during the anti-terrorist operation, including 25 cadets. Other prominent alumni include: 27 cosmonauts, 4 Minister of Defense, commanders-in-chief and deputy commanders of the Armed Forces, army commanders.
          HUVS prepares for the APU specialists in 15 areas in 24 specialties. The university is headed by a candidate of technical sciences, a first-class military pilot, Major General Alimpiev Andrei Nikolaevich.
    5. self-propelled
      self-propelled 23 February 2017 22: 19
      +2
      Quote: mgero
      You get maximum 6 get

      promise (... "Ukroboronprom" He pledged transfer to the troops 60 aircraft ...) does not mean (put in the troops) marry
      something like this. now in (on) Ukraine promises are not strongly believed
    6. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 24 February 2017 02: 28
      0
      Quote: mgero
      You got a maximum of 6.

      It may receive more. But the quality of this repair ... I studied this topic. They have nothing, they bet that is horrible. Restore trash, and set. Sprinkle soon, otherwise in aviation does not happen.
    7. sgazeev
      sgazeev 24 February 2017 15: 17
      0
      Promise not to do it drinks on the dutik carts, uncles Panas "cut" the village roads.
    8. Alex20042004
      Alex20042004 24 February 2017 19: 28
      0
      Not a. Only two !
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 23 February 2017 16: 33
    +21
    Sergey Drozdov Oh namesake! Since February 23, you. Lugansk on your orders with Su 25 shot in the summer of 2014? Nothing is forgotten. Nobody is forgotten. And those who are cut by fragments of women. But still alive, we will remember for a very long time. If you do not always say.
  3. cost
    cost 23 February 2017 16: 35
    +4
    I wonder what the essence of their modernization of combat aircraft
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 23 February 2017 16: 48
      +8
      Quote: Rich
      I wonder what the essence of their modernization of combat aircraft

      Painted.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 February 2017 18: 41
        +2
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Painted.

        It’s you who are talking about deep modernization ... if you painted it, it would be 5th generation aircraft of Ukrainian production. And so, just dusted.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 23 February 2017 20: 03
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          so, just dusted.

          If seriously, then I think that these sides can now fly into the air and nothing more.
          In theory, they need a sharpening on the ground, and it costs a penny, and a penny is dumb ...
    2. Bronevick
      Bronevick 23 February 2017 17: 38
      +1
      The teeth were painted on the fuselage.
    3. 210ox
      210ox 23 February 2017 18: 40
      0
      What’s the essence? But it’s not there, just a statement has been made.
      Quote: Rich
      I wonder what the essence of their modernization of combat aircraft
  4. Altona
    Altona 23 February 2017 16: 37
    0
    Is this the whole ukroluftwaffe fleet or do they still have it? Pepper in the flasks.
  5. Franciscan
    Franciscan 23 February 2017 16: 40
    +8
    For all this, you can say thanks to the Minsk sitters and plans on the knee. For two years, they could well restore a certain number of cars. For example, the L-39s are worth a penny in Europe, they could very well have bought a dozen others and refitted. In addition, I can buy up junk in the countries of the Warsaw Pact and unscramble what is left. Ammunition for the aircraft I suspect they have left the fuck. Well, there are all kinds of bombs and nurses.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 23 February 2017 17: 26
      +6
      All this fuss around the Ukrainian Air Force is not worth the conversation at all. There is neither a material base, nor well-trained pilots, nor normal technical personnel. There is a rusty legacy of the USSR, which has been sold or stupidly rotted for 27 years at airfields without maintenance. I say this because I came across the Ukrainian Air Force to work personally, ten years ago. Even then, the hair stood on end, into which they had turned the once huge aviation industry, which they had inherited from the Soviet Union.
      Ammunition for the aircraft I suspect they have left the fuck. well there are all kinds of bombs and nurses
      I agree with this, though they were stored in the open air, in rotten boxes. And in general, talk about a hypothetical "revival" of the Ukrainian Air Force, this is exclusively a propaganda chatter of Kiev, designed for no one knows. Well, maybe only on the most Svidomo brains. Of the entire huge fleet of combat aircraft in Ukraine, only a few are in good condition, and the rest, if they can fly, then perform combat missions with difficulty.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 23 February 2017 18: 11
        +3
        Quote: Franciscan
        For two years, they could well restore a certain number of cars. For example, the L-39s are worth a penny in Europe, they could very well have bought a dozen others and converted.

        And where are they going to get so many kamikazes, because in Novorossia the Su-25 attack aircraft prepared for a meeting with MANPADS failed.
    2. 73bor
      73bor 23 February 2017 22: 03
      0
      Ammunition for "penniless" planes is not worth it if there are no such aircraft, and if there are no qualified pilots, the cost of the aircraft itself will simply tend to zero!
  6. dr.star75
    dr.star75 23 February 2017 16: 40
    +43
    All HAPPY! And also I have a SON born !!!!! drinks
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 23 February 2017 16: 45
      +8
      Congratulations! Let grows healthy, smart and strong.
      1. Banishing liberoids
        Banishing liberoids 23 February 2017 16: 50
        +7
        Michael hi -health, son, mom and dad-etl the most important thing hi [i] [/ i] drinks soldier !!!
        1. dr.star75
          dr.star75 23 February 2017 16: 59
          +19
          Thank you! This is after 3 girls .....
          1. cniza
            cniza 23 February 2017 17: 24
            +8
            May you be pleased, and your son grow worthy of his father. Congratulations.
            1. dr.star75
              dr.star75 23 February 2017 17: 44
              +4
              Thank. Diluted a little
      2. dr.star75
        dr.star75 23 February 2017 16: 57
        +7
        Thank! waited for a long timedrinks
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 23 February 2017 17: 10
      +7
      Quote: dr.star75
      All HAPPY! And also I have a SON born !!!!! drinks

      yes to the devil everything else! drinks Congratulations Misha! [I] [/ i] drinks
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 23 February 2017 17: 42
        +3
        Thank you! drinks I've been waiting a long time!
        1. michajlo
          michajlo 23 February 2017 19: 04
          +2
          dr.star75 Today, 17: 42 ↑ New
          Thank! drinks I've been waiting

          I join in the congratulations Doc!
          Health to the spouse-childbirth and more milk (this is me as a former pediatric anesthetist) !!! Little son grow healthy and daughters joy and good luck in everything!
          And you personally the health of strong, moderate hardening of the liver, good luck and prosperity in your home, dear !!! drinks bully
          Michael, Eng.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 23 February 2017 17: 15
      +6
      Quote: dr.star75
      ME SON was born !!!!!

      Duc ... Duc ... êàî, the words of Kuda then disappeared. request Doc, I envy silently!
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 23 February 2017 17: 43
        +5
        Thank you! Only soon I will be temporarily unavailable drinks
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 23 February 2017 19: 36
      +3
      Quote: dr.star75
      All HAPPY! And also I have a SON born !!!!! drinks

      Congratulations! And all the defenders and defenders on the Holiday!
    5. _my opinion
      _my opinion 24 February 2017 10: 39
      0
      Congratulations !!! What was the name of the son?
      Part of the job is done, now it is necessary to educate him.
  7. Franciscan
    Franciscan 23 February 2017 16: 42
    +1
    Quote: Rich
    I wonder what the essence of their modernization of combat aircraft

    The bottom line is that they were able to take off.
  8. Berkut24
    Berkut24 23 February 2017 16: 48
    +1
    They wrote that Ukrainians repair tanks for 1 battle. Then again to kapitalku. Will the planes be on one take-off? After falling back to kapitalku?
  9. Alex_Tug
    Alex_Tug 23 February 2017 16: 49
    +2
    The Air Force of Ukraine this year will receive from the defense industry 60 repaired and modernized combat aircraft

    Quoting Vysotsky - “where is the money, Zin?”
  10. shinobi
    shinobi 23 February 2017 16: 49
    +5
    The question is, why is aviation not used? The answer is, the aggressor does not allow the country. And threatened to shoot down. Not informally. The planes will rot further.
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 23 February 2017 18: 33
      0
      Bitter experience says that you first need to concentrate your strength, and then apply it in a massive way, and not spread it like butter on a bun. If you put yourself in the place of the Ukrainian command, then the planes themselves must first be, and then they can already be used, with a sudden aggravation of the conflict, in order to manage to forestall the Russian army in reaction.
      1. Karaul73
        Karaul73 23 February 2017 18: 47
        +1
        If that reaction, the Russian army will be instant. The war with Georgia is a witness to this. Since then, the army has learned a lot. Therefore, only cries are constantly heard about Putin’s advance to the next significant date.
  11. Served once
    Served once 23 February 2017 16: 50
    +1
    With such pride in the photo in the "jacket from someone else's shoulder" ... Serfdom is indestructible.
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 23 February 2017 16: 54
      +3
      And from under the lapel of the jacket, the Order of the Red Star is visible, or am I mistaken ?!
      1. Smog
        Smog 23 February 2017 17: 10
        +6
        Yes, it seems you’re not mistaken. And how did he, for evil, still not uncommunize him, the local Natsiks? A huge omission on their part.
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  13. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 23 February 2017 16: 51
    +1
    All to the detriment of repairing aircraft, they think about how many houses they will destroy in the Donbass.
    1. Warlock
      Warlock 23 February 2017 19: 26
      +1
      Stupidity is utter. They don’t think about such things in the war, because the enemy’s task is to destroy, not to fool around. Especially considering the balance of power.
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    1. michajlo
      michajlo 23 February 2017 19: 18
      +1
      broshtein Today, 17: 07 New
      Ukraine, this is the internal affairs of Russia and it is not necessary for every foreign bastard to interfere in this! And how did you want to live under capitalism, where profit is above all? Really did not know. that the political weapon of capitalism against the people is racism, Nazism, fascism, Zionism and genocide! Divide, rob, exploit and conquer!
      The United States needs without a nuclear war in Eurasia, so they need the Nazis of Ukraine, terrorists of all stripes, fascist Zionists, etc., to dominate the world by defeating their competitors in Eurasia! And the first in this list due to its natural and energy wealth is Russia, Belarus and Ukraine! ... The peoples of the union would only benefit from this, but Putin and his associates have more ambitions or greed for enrichment than reason!
      https://youtu.be/4wGr-cNNK94
      The attacks of the USA and the European Union on Russia are simple! ... Without them, Russia will sooner rise from its knees and with a raised head will go to the future!


      You are right in everything, dear "broshtein"!
      Sorry, I don’t know how to call you by name?
      As a matter of fact, the words and statements you quoted, I can only say one thing: "God grant these clever words and God in the ear!" (folk proverb).
      A quarrel between citizens Ukraine and Russia, and here are new attempts also with the citizens of Belarus, did not appear "from scratch", and someone of the partners / enemies of Great Russia / Russia is very profitable !?
      With the holiday 23February you dear and ALL FORUMAN! drinks
      Michael.
    2. Stena
      Stena 23 February 2017 20: 01
      0
      Quote: broshtein
      The United States needs without a nuclear war in Eurasia, so they need the Nazis of Ukraine, terrorists of all stripes, fascist Zionists, etc., to dominate the world by defeating their competitors in Eurasia!

      I will quote S.V. Lavrova - “Well, DB” ...
  15. tuts
    tuts 23 February 2017 17: 08
    +4
    And what does the Soviet red star do on his uniform?
    Or has Stirlitz never been so close to failure?
    1. sergei1975
      sergei1975 23 February 2017 21: 42
      0
      The Order of the Red Star in the uniform of this repainted OKHFITSER has such a shitty digging -signs of the distinction of Ukrainian collaborators.
  16. razved
    razved 23 February 2017 17: 26
    +1
    The plans are, nevertheless, Napoleonic ...
  17. Franciscan
    Franciscan 23 February 2017 17: 27
    +2
    Quote: Berkut24
    They wrote that Ukrainians repair tanks for 1 battle. Then again to kapitalku. Will the planes be on one take-off? After falling back to kapitalku?

    There the planes are so killed that it’s cheaper to lose them in battle, and for old grandmothers to buy old twigs in Poland, there are still a lot of them left.
  18. oldzek
    oldzek 23 February 2017 17: 44
    +2
    Happy Holidays! Especially serving and serving in the 6th Guards of Kiev-Berlin td. URA! and now the news: the deputy disappeared, who took an active part in the massacre at the house of trade unions in Odessa. A criminal case was opened. I didn’t understand that the process had begun? Did guerrillas appear in Odessa?
    1. Catherine II
      Catherine II 24 February 2017 13: 55
      +1
      Quote: oldzek
      Partisans appeared in Odessa?

      no, in Odessa no one citizen, (Goncharenko) who loves to change shoes on the fly, wanted attention.
  19. volodya
    volodya 23 February 2017 17: 48
    +1
    To promise is not to fulfill!
  20. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 23 February 2017 17: 52
    +5
    Quote: broshtein
    At least in Russia there would be more order and a long time ago a new industrialization would have been carried out! The peoples of the union would only benefit from this, but Putin and his associates have more ambitions or greed for enrichment than reason!

    The fact is that among the population of the Russian Federation there is a myth that socialism was built. But in reality, state capitalism was built as a transitional form to socialism, and this was already carried out after the end of the Second World War. Khrushchev and his comrades only worsened the situation and did not go on to building truly socialism and entered the country into a stage of stagnation, which led to the collapse of the USSR. It is precisely the poets of counterrevolutionaries who so easily and quickly plunge the country into the worst form of capitalism - oligarchic capitalism. Putin and his team managed to remove the oligarchs from direct control of the country, but the country's economy was held hostage by the oligarchy, hence all the contradictions in the modern life of Russia. Precisely because the military-industrial complex is a state monopoly, the military-industrial complex has the most significant increase in labor productivity, which is why it is supposed to use modern technologies for the production of goods of a civilian group. Our oligarchs act according to the principle - tore off budget money, made garbage, transferred it to Western banks, bought real estate over the hill, and the development of everything else is easy for him. Private interest is not interested in the development of the state, on which he parasitizes, to take everything from him and not give him (the state-woo) anything possible - this is their ideology, leading to the collapse of the Russian Federation! hi
    1. michajlo
      michajlo 23 February 2017 19: 32
      +2
      Vlad5307 Today, 17: 52 New
      Quote: broshtein
      At least in Russia there would be more order and a long time ago a new industrialization would have been carried out! The peoples of the union would only benefit from this, but Putin and his associates have more ambitions or greed for enrichment than reason!

      The fact is that among the population of the Russian Federation there is a myth that that socialism was built. But in reality, state capitalism was built as a transitional form to socialism, and this was already carried out after the end of the Second World War. Khrushchev and his comrades only worsened the situation and did not proceed to build truly socialism and entered the country into a stage of stagnation, which led to the collapse of the USSR. It is precisely the poets of counterrevolutionaries who so easily and quickly plunge the country into the worst form of capitalism - oligarchic capitalism. Putin and his team managed to remove the oligarchs from direct control of the country, but the country's economy was held hostage by the oligarchy, hence all the contradictions in the modern life of Russia. Precisely because the military-industrial complex is a state monopoly in fact, the most significant increase in labor productivity is in the military-industrial complex, which is why it is supposed to use modern technologies for the production of goods of a civil group there. Our oligarchs act according to the principle - tore off budget money, made garbage, transferred it to Western banks, bought real estate over the hill, and the development of everything else is easy for him. Private interest is not interested in the development of the state, on which he parasitizes, to take everything from him and not give him (state-woo) anything if possible - here is their ideology leading to the collapse of the Russian Federation! hi


      Happy 23 February! You dear Vladimir! drinks

      You are in many respects right and accurate in that for the country and people of Great Russia we need a HOSMONOPOLY, and not only in the military-industrial complex, in my opinion, and in the main sectors of n / a (extraction of raw materials, energy, precious metals, transport (railway, auto, aircraft and ships), science, education, healthcare, and for a personal business to give small and medium level.
      Well, about the fact that "Putin managed to PUSH the oligarchs from running the country," it is in my opinion "more desire of us citizens and" coordinated game in front of voters "", because all of Putin’s real policies are essentially "step forward, two steps back", that is, as if he often only voices decisions from other persons, simply in his presentation, everything sounds “more patriotic and paternal” than Medvedev’s, but still, the essence of his Decrees and Decisions doesn’t change !?.
      Sorry that I can’t conclusions and conclusions "with a patriotic anguish"but as they say, "Plato is my friend, but truth is more precious."
      Michael.
  21. izya top
    izya top 23 February 2017 18: 27
    0
    hopes that the power will change again, and it will not be necessary to answer for words?
    wedding in robin-2
  22. APASUS
    APASUS 23 February 2017 18: 30
    0
    If we seriously consider the industry of Ukraine and the financial base, then they really cannot put 60 aircraft into operation, and in my opinion talk about modernization is unnecessary. This is primarily the development and piece equipment that is not produced in Ukraine at all.
    This is in my opinion a conversation from a series of 7% industrial growth, which one of the Ukrainian government said here.
  23. WapentakeLokki
    WapentakeLokki 23 February 2017 18: 43
    +1
    And where do you get the pilots for these hypothetical attack aircraft you hire in Geyrop or Tanya
    1. Warlock
      Warlock 23 February 2017 19: 21
      +2
      They will take it in the same place where the Russian Federation takes it, from the school.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 23 February 2017 19: 44
        +2
        Quote: Warlock
        They will take it in the same place where the Russian Federation takes it, from the school.

        What kind of school? Maybe enlighten where pilots in Ukraine are trained for half a year
  24. Franciscan
    Franciscan 23 February 2017 19: 50
    0
    Quote: Orionvit
    All this fuss around the Ukrainian Air Force is not worth the conversation at all. There is neither a material base, nor well-trained pilots, nor normal technical personnel. There is a rusty legacy of the USSR, which has been sold or stupidly rotted for 27 years at airfields without maintenance. I say this because I came across the Ukrainian Air Force to work personally, ten years ago. Even then, the hair stood on end, into which they had turned the once huge aviation industry, which they had inherited from the Soviet Union.
    Ammunition for the aircraft I suspect they have left the fuck. well there are all kinds of bombs and nurses
    I agree with this, though they were stored in the open air, in rotten boxes. And in general, talk about a hypothetical "revival" of the Ukrainian Air Force, this is exclusively a propaganda chatter of Kiev, designed for no one knows. Well, maybe only on the most Svidomo brains. Of the entire huge fleet of combat aircraft in Ukraine, only a few are in good condition, and the rest, if they can fly, then perform combat missions with difficulty.

    Maybe bombs and rusty but on the Donbas they worked well at one time.
  25. Franciscan
    Franciscan 23 February 2017 19: 51
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    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Quote: Franciscan
    For two years, they could well restore a certain number of cars. For example, the L-39s are worth a penny in Europe, they could very well have bought a dozen others and converted.

    And where are they going to get so many kamikazes, because in Novorossia the Su-25 attack aircraft prepared for a meeting with MANPADS failed.

    Mercenaries. In 2014 and 2015 they flew.
  26. Franciscan
    Franciscan 23 February 2017 19: 52
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    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Quote: Franciscan
    For two years, they could well restore a certain number of cars. For example, the L-39s are worth a penny in Europe, they could very well have bought a dozen others and converted.

    And where are they going to get so many kamikazes, because in Novorossia the Su-25 attack aircraft prepared for a meeting with MANPADS failed.

    Mercenaries. in 2014 and 2015 they flew on the Donbas.
    1. Catherine II
      Catherine II 24 February 2017 13: 59
      +1
      Quote: Franciscan
      Mercenaries. in 2014 and 2015 they flew to Donbass.

      The lists do not appear, all the downed Ukrainians.
      Either they didn’t fly, or they weren’t shot down, or they didn’t exist at all. and 28 of the dead only at Kharkov University (the one that prepares the pilots) is.
  27. Wildowl
    Wildowl 23 February 2017 20: 01
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    "From the enterprises of the Ukroboronprom concern this year, we should receive about 60 repaired and modernized aircraft"
    I'd like to ulcerate - Get exactly 60 pcs. rolled up from a paper sheet.
  28. Gray brother
    Gray brother 23 February 2017 20: 14
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    michajlo,
    Good luck in the literary areas!

    But where am I ... not mine.
  29. Mwg
    Mwg 23 February 2017 20: 25
    +1
    Well, yes, yes ... Everything that the United States scraped across the countries of the former Warsaw Pact - everything to Ukraine - everything was transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... And will it fly? ...
  30. wandlitz
    wandlitz 23 February 2017 20: 39
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    "Ukroboronprom" promised to transfer to the troops 60 aircraft
    Well, then effective means will appear in the LNR and DNR to counter the flights of these aircraft ...
    1. avg-mgn
      avg-mgn 23 February 2017 21: 04
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      It would take off, it could be, but without l / s it can not for some reason ...
  31. P36M2
    P36M2 23 February 2017 20: 48
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    Quote: oleg-gr
    As smart people say: to promise does not mean to marry. Once the representative of the Ukrainians promised that in the USSR by 1980 communism would be built.

    Yes, but he was not a hohl
  32. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 23 February 2017 21: 02
    +1
    Already wrote, I repeat. Almost literally from the mustache of a senior officer of the Air Force of Ukraine:
    "<Drying (the source means 27e) the workers are half - takeoff / landing no more, the cat cried the artwork service staff. Fuel only for the duty unit. The pilot saw the sky for the last time a year ago. meeting with the enemy in the air (what a pity that the LDNR does not even have Farmanov) and extremely ready to work only on the ground.
    Like this. I do not have information about the helicopter fleet. In general, if you are not too lazy, go through space over the military airfields of Ukraine and compare 14, 16-17. You will see a lot for yourself.
  33. sergei1975
    sergei1975 23 February 2017 21: 35
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    To collect 60 aircraft, you need to collect all the equipment from museums and pedestals. It’s good that there is also an instant-15, an instant of 17, and even su 15. But it only seems that they will roll them on the ground and scare them with the most powerful aircraft on the continent.
  34. alavrin
    alavrin 23 February 2017 21: 39
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    They can transmit something, although this is doubtful, but the thing is that there are about 15 experienced pilots left all over Ukraine ...)
  35. Georgievic
    Georgievic 23 February 2017 22: 19
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    The funny thing is that there are no pilots left! They didn’t teach the new ones, the old ones are unsuitable, who drank too much, who went into trade and business! About technology - should it just break the brain to fly on soviet aircraft, where is the "decommunization"?
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  37. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 23 February 2017 22: 39
    +2
    I didn’t understand why this clown has the Order of the Red Star, by the way, he somehow resembles a moron from the “police academy”.
  38. Unclean
    Unclean 23 February 2017 22: 39
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    Quote: Smog
    Yes, it seems you’re not mistaken. And how did he, for evil, still not uncommunize him, the local Natsiks? A huge omission on their part.

    Yes, you are quiet, do not water the office. This is our meager to them. And the star under the lapel is Oktyabrsky first degree. They were gathered from all headquarters, and you, so loudly.
  39. sergei1975
    sergei1975 23 February 2017 23: 33
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    The commander of the Poroshenko will lead the battle [media = https: //youtu.be/e8E9XquGj2E? List
    = RDqun6fW2rNek]
  40. Leeder
    Leeder 24 February 2017 00: 18
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    Quote: Catherine II

    (KNUVS) in 2016 year took 800 cadets

    So what, they will become pilots, in 5 years at least, otherwise it’s just meat.
    1. Catherine II
      Catherine II 24 February 2017 14: 08
      +1
      Quote: LeeDer
      (KNUVS) in 2016 year took 800 cadets

      2012 was a little less. 2016-write-record for those who wish. The university receives more than 500 cadets every year
  41. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 24 February 2017 01: 00
    +2
    Well, yes .. now they will remove all the MIG-15 and MIG21 from the pedestals, paint and retake.
  42. viktor.
    viktor. 24 February 2017 01: 46
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    do these have so many planes? and just how can you use aviation production ohhresora? refuse Kalash, and the rest? laughing what
  43. Evil 55
    Evil 55 24 February 2017 05: 51
    +1
    Only sixty? For even more paper is not enough?
  44. Trotil42
    Trotil42 24 February 2017 10: 32
    +2
    Interestingly, are flying planes or plastic models?
  45. _my opinion
    _my opinion 24 February 2017 10: 32
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    "Ukroboronprom" promised to transfer to the troops 60 aircraft

    in response, the troops promised to steal all 60 aircraft laughing
    but seriously, you can promise a lot and do nothing ...
  46. Free Shooter
    Free Shooter 24 February 2017 15: 26
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    To promise does not mean to marry
  47. SAF
    SAF 24 February 2017 19: 42
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    Quote: Bronevick
    The teeth were painted on the fuselage.


    It seems from the bottom that almost all the teeth were beaten ...



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  48. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 24 February 2017 23: 58
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    The LDNR air defense is ready to receive you.