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UVZ presented on IDEX 2017 a new mortar complex

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At the military exhibition in Abu Dhabi, the Nizhny Novgorod “Petrel” (included in “Uralvagonzavod”) presented a new 82-mm mortar 2ВХNUMX, facilitated by Rossiyskaya Gazeta.



“A mortar weighing 45 kg is presented next to a domestic production ATV. However, this is not quite a quad bike - the car has six wheels, but there are still four leading ones, ”the newspaper writes.

In the back of the vehicle there is a place for mounting the mortar and placing 4-x boxes of ammunition. Deployment time in combat - 1 minute. During this time, the calculation of two people manages to remove the mortar from the mounts and install it on the ground.

For shooting can be used two types of mines with a range of damage at a distance of 4 and 6 km.

“The shown complex is very effective in conducting anti-terrorist operations. The mortar can be thrown at a speed of 80 km / h close to the positions of the militants, strike and move away from a possible return fire, ”the article notes.

Representatives of the armies of the Middle Eastern countries have already shown great interest in the complex.
Photos used:
Sergey Ptichkin / RG
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 21 February 2017 16: 48
    +13
    Oh, tachanka-Rostovite,
    Our pride and beauty,
    bully
    Yes, at least something can be transported with an ATV. ATGM, MANPADS, machine gun., Soldier transport. Etc.
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 February 2017 16: 50
      +8
      Representatives of the armies of the Middle Eastern countries have already shown great interest in the complex.


      Everything must be done so that they do not get to the barmaley.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 21 February 2017 16: 55
        +7
        cniza
        Everything must be done so that they do not get to the barmaley.
        Yeah, mine every one. And in the X hour, on a signal from space, in which case the broads and there is no ATV with a mortar. what
      2. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 21 February 2017 16: 55
        +9
        Quote: cniza
        Everything must be done so that they do not get to the barmaley.

        Wow - such a complex is perfect for your favorite mosquito tactics.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 21 February 2017 19: 31
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        Everything must be done so that they do not get to the barmaley.

        In place of making mortar on the platform as designers from Elbit Systems
        Ours stubbornly copy 2C12 "Sled"
        1. MaksoMelan
          MaksoMelan 21 February 2017 21: 15
          0
          Then with guided projectiles. And it will be too expensive.
      4. Nehist
        Nehist 22 February 2017 03: 50
        +1
        Barmalei have long been using such mortars for a long time, without bothering to create special equipment in the stroller and forward
  2. Damir
    Damir 21 February 2017 16: 48
    +1
    another reincarnation of the tachanka ??? Well, for the fields, steppes and deserts, probably the most ...
    1. Monos
      Monos 21 February 2017 17: 12
      +9
      “The complex shown is very effective in conducting anti-terrorist operations. The mortar can be thrown at a speed of 80 km / h close to the positions of the militants, strike and evade possible retaliatory fire, ”the material says

      With such advertising, only these same action movies and sell. They one-on-one described the tactics of the militant database!
    2. Freeman
      Freeman 21 February 2017 18: 55
      +2
      Quote: Damir
      another reincarnation of the tachanka ???

      Not certainly in that way. The main feature of the use of the cart, was in the conduct of fire directly from the "carrier", without unloading weapons on the ground. What we see in the tactics of using jihad mobiles.
      In this case, we have a small-sized, cheap "conveyor" for weapons.
  3. cost
    cost 21 February 2017 16: 54
    +2
    necessary novelty, especially at the battalion level.
    Yes, and for mobile units of the PV, the Ministry of Internal Affairs is an indispensable thing
  4. newcomer
    newcomer 21 February 2017 16: 59
    +6
    Apparently this light cavalry is just for the BV countries and is offered. although in our army they too can find an appointment. the first thing that comes to mind is the border troops.
  5. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 21 February 2017 17: 05
    +10
    Representatives of the armies of the Middle Eastern countries have already shown great interest in the complex.

    What specifically showed interest? To the mortar? ATV? To ammo drawers?
    By the way, were there sleighs on patriots there?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 21 February 2017 18: 35
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
      What specifically showed interest? To the mortar?

      Most likely, to a new mortar.
      He can shoot a "long" 3-O-26 mine. Higher range, greater power of action at the target.
      1. Vladimir Postnikov
        Vladimir Postnikov 21 February 2017 20: 37
        0
        Quote: Spade
        He can shoot a "long" mine 3-O-26.

        You're right. This is clearly visible in the photo.
        You will understand me if I say that I don’t understand why automation tools on mortars are still not used. Manual guidance can be left as a backup, but the drives should have been automated yesterday. This will increase the accuracy of shooting (with a decrease in the consumption of shots), and will open up new possibilities of shooting at moving targets. Yes, I don’t understand.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 21 February 2017 21: 28
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
          Manual guidance can be left as backup, but the drives should have been automated yesterday.

          The mortar in caliber 81/82 is in most cases portable. Making it self-propelled instead of 120 gauge does not make much sense. It hurts a weak mine.
          1. Vladimir Postnikov
            Vladimir Postnikov 22 February 2017 00: 39
            0
            Quote: Spade
            The mortar in the caliber 81 / 82 is in most cases portable.

            Even the portable can be automated. And there is the caliber 120, howitzers. A plus to the accuracy of pointing will be the fact that when shooting at target designation / coordinates, only the loaders will be exposed (all others in the shelter). This is a completely inexpensive way to modernize stored artillery. Why was Hephaestus used in aviation, but there is no such automation of artillery?
  6. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 21 February 2017 17: 10
    +7
    I remembered that when our Ukrainian partners made a grenade launcher on a buggy. That wit of the Russians knew no bounds. They described its low survivability and other characteristics that show its worthlessness.
    Here we see the same thing, when meeting with a serious adversary live her minutes. I think the matter will not come further than interest, because an analogue can make a garage master in any country cheaper.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 21 February 2017 17: 14
      +3
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      Here we see the same thing, when meeting with a serious adversary live her minutes.

      When meeting with the enemy, the calculation of the mortar in any case live for minutes.
      Transport is a way to not meet the enemy.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 21 February 2017 18: 11
        +1
        Quote: Gray Brother
        When meeting with the enemy, the calculation of the mortar in any case live for minutes.

        Is not a fact. 6 snouts with guns it's still 6 snouts with guns ... Moreover, they are not used one at a time. A platoon, and more often a battery.
        1. smith7
          smith7 21 February 2017 21: 40
          +1
          The target of the mortar type is standard. As soon as there are coordinates destroyed immediately, as a dangerous target. Classic ... In the textbooks ... 6 snouts with machine guns ... will be alive only in the event of an armed conflict with a technologically backward enemy, and so ... they will not be alive, at best they will stop firing.
    2. commbatant
      commbatant 21 February 2017 17: 15
      +1
      Americans refused to use the "buggy", but we are still at the beginning of the way ...
    3. shellhound
      shellhound 21 February 2017 17: 42
      +3
      Do you know the difference between a buggy and an ATV? or is it the same for you? This is a transport ATV, on which everything you want to be transported can be in hard-to-reach places, where you can’t go either on the tank or on the BMP. I personally really like that the army began to buy (not just this one of the news, but in general) such devices that greatly facilitate the lives of soldiers, increase the capabilities and mobility of the infantry.

      "Here we see the same thing, when meeting with a serious opponent, she will live for a minute. I think it will not come further than interest, since an analogue can make a garage master in any country cheaper." - Well, nonsense, this is just transport, its main task is to deliver people / cargo "from point A to point B", and you say it's like an offensive tank.
      1. DimerVladimer
        DimerVladimer 22 February 2017 09: 27
        +1
        You will excuse me, of course, but the more you load the quadric, the worse its cross-country ability, even 2 people on the quadric and it is already starting to bog on weakly bearing soils. There, in addition to 2 people + 45 kg mortar + BC. Compensated for the increase in carrying capacity - passive non-drive axle.
        Accordingly, patency decreased by 4x4 buggy level
    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 21 February 2017 18: 09
      0
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      when meeting with a serious opponent live her minutes.

      Yes, they only work with closed fire, and therefore do not meet with the enemy.
  7. Gray brother
    Gray brother 21 February 2017 17: 12
    +11
    Why, I like it.
    1. faiver
      faiver 21 February 2017 18: 09
      +1
      grandson of SdKfz 2 Kettenkrad HK 101
    2. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 21 February 2017 22: 06
      +1
      and cho - sand color
  8. stoker
    stoker 21 February 2017 17: 56
    +1
    The complex is called Hezbollah’s Dream
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 21 February 2017 18: 11
    +3
    A good complex was presented by our gunsmiths, but for BV the caliber is small.
  10. Lopatov
    Lopatov 21 February 2017 18: 58
    +3
    new lightweight 82mm mortar 2B24

    It is 4 kg heavier than the old Tray. Rather "weighted"
  11. dubowitskij.vick
    dubowitskij.vick 21 February 2017 19: 04
    +4
    Here, some participants recall the cart. This is because they don’t know that carts were not used in open combat at all. Never and by anyone. For transportation of weapons, machine guns, yes. But not in battle. Too vulnerable, the first victims of a gun duel, any, even one fallen, cause of the death of this whole installation with people and the scarce Maxim.
  12. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 21 February 2017 19: 08
    +2
    The Ukrainians nevertheless surpassed our gunsmiths; their mortar still flies, although it is not far away by a couple of meters, and ours only travels.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 21 February 2017 21: 31
      0
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Ukrainians still surpassed our gunsmiths

      No, they just went a different way, reducing the weight of the mortar. Ours - on the way to increase maximum range and power with some increase in weight.
      New Ukrainian is 10 kg lighter than the new Russian.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 22 February 2017 00: 07
        0
        Is this due to the use of titanium alloys?
        Do you really think that it will be a series ???
  13. Semurg
    Semurg 21 February 2017 19: 21
    +1
    Ah Russians sell weapons to the Arabs of the Gulf, they are the first sponsors of igil and nusra in Syria. the same weapon will be in Syria and will kill there. Or are the monarchies of the gulf now not the sponsors of the terrorists but the partners, do not have time to track the rapidly changing assessment of the Russians, enlighten the Arabs of the gulf hto for today?
  14. MaksoMelan
    MaksoMelan 21 February 2017 19: 31
    +3
    You need to create an analogue of Luaz. Perhaps six woodland ala Australian landrovers or with an entrance like an armored personnel carrier boomerang. From the back. But necessarily waterfowl.
    1. MaksoMelan
      MaksoMelan 21 February 2017 19: 33
      0
      The muzzle is pretty. Not that the oki had it.
    2. Goblin13
      Goblin13 21 February 2017 20: 10
      0
      There were such cars in the Soviet army, they were called the front-line ambulance, if my memory serves me right. The steering wheel is not on the left, but in the middle and floating. I was once offered to buy one, I didn’t take it, the speed is up to 50 km / h. It is necessary to keep such a drive away, but there is no driving away, so I did not take it.
      1. MaksoMelan
        MaksoMelan 21 February 2017 21: 19
        0
        I heard a review that the transmission box is not in the wrong direction. For one it is not enough for another. That is the mind to do everything taking into account errors, so to speak. Well, the civilian market for hunters of tourists hippies summer residents of rural youth of urban youth as the first car and in the summer to drive the river (and the river;)).
    3. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 21 February 2017 22: 08
      +1
      we already had a tpp
  15. Bronevick
    Bronevick 21 February 2017 20: 00
    0
    Three years ago they showed it already.
  16. loha
    loha 22 February 2017 06: 58
    +1
    “The complex shown is very effective in conducting anti-terrorist operations. The mortar can be thrown at a speed of 80 km / h close to the positions of the militants, strike and evade possible retaliatory fire, ”the material says. But for terrorists, it is not replaceable at all.
  17. masiya
    masiya 22 February 2017 09: 56
    0
    An interesting development .. but even earlier they were no worse on motorcycles and shishig, and they could just drag on horseback ...