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Finns buy South Korean "Thunders"

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On Friday, the Finnish Ministry of Defense signed a contract for the purchase of 48-i SAU K9 Thunder (“Thunder”) in South Korea, reports Warspot.



According to the Finnish military, the contract value was € 146 million. This amount, in addition to tools, included the cost of spare parts, service and crew training.

The first batch should arrive in Finland this year, the final one in 2024. self-propelled guns are scheduled to be adopted in 2 year.

K9 Thunder will have to replace in the Finnish army obsolete SAU "Gvozdika", which is planned to be written off completely before the 2030 year.

“According to the 2016 year, the 36 units 2С1 122 mm caliber carnation (Finnish designation - PsH 74) is in service with the Finnish army,” the publication says.



At the same time, the Finns are considering the possibility of increasing the volume of the contract, as well as purchases together with Estonia, which is also interested in buying K9.

K9 Thunder - 155-mm self-propelled artillery, the development of which began in the year 1989. After 10, the SAU began to enter the South Korean army. The gun is capable of hitting targets at a distance of more than 40 km (when using Excalibur projectiles, over 50 km).

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  1. aleksfill
    aleksfill 19 February 2017 16: 55
    0
    Neighbors are neutral, as it were.
    1. Juborg
      Juborg 19 February 2017 17: 13
      +14
      Quote: aleksfill
      Neighbors are neutral, as it were.


      Neutrals are neutrals, and the size of the army is increased to 280 thousand people. Today, Ukraine has approximately the same army. So the Finns have a population of just 5.5 mil. Think about it, they will be neutral or, as always, on the side of the aggressor ?!
      1. Thirteenth
        Thirteenth 19 February 2017 17: 26
        +7
        The Finns would not have abandoned Karelia.
        1. cniza
          cniza 19 February 2017 17: 43
          +6
          Quote: Thirteenth
          The Finns would not have abandoned Karelia.


          And whoever gives them, wanting is not harmful.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 19 February 2017 19: 34
            +7
            And do you want fertilizers on the shovel ???
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            1. Veteran
              Veteran 20 February 2017 18: 04
              +4
              And Poland must give Danzig, West Prussian, Silesian and Pomeranian lands.
        2. Caa
          Caa 19 February 2017 18: 03
          +15
          Quote: Thirteenth
          The Finns would not have abandoned Karelia.

          And Karelians from Finland wink
          1. Semurg
            Semurg 19 February 2017 18: 13
            +10
            Quote: caa
            Quote: Thirteenth
            The Finns would not have abandoned Karelia.

            And Karelians from Finland wink

            Karelian-Finnish ASSR?
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 19 February 2017 20: 36
              +7
              Quote: Semurg
              Karelian-Finnish ASSR?

              Moreover, since the “Winter War” and the Russian army the possibilities, to put it mildly, are different. Yes, and the Finnish army, to put it mildly, is not the same ... Maybe cancel Lenin's kindness? .... The referendum, kind people and all - Finland is ours ... laughing
              Rzhu, of course ... In figs is that Finland for us? We have 20 kilometers from the city on the Volga - and the steppe to the horizon in any direction. And in Siberia, 100 kilometers to either side of the taiga ... How many Finland are in the Krasnoyarsk Territory ?????
              1. Captain Nemo
                Captain Nemo 19 February 2017 22: 04
                +3
                Well, why on the fig? In Finland, cottages are good :-)
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 19 February 2017 23: 02
                  +1
                  What about import substitution? wink
                2. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 20 February 2017 01: 27
                  +4
                  Quote: Captain Nemo
                  Well, why on the fig? In Finland, cottages are good :-)

                  Yes, we ourselves can build worse ... hi I speak responsibly, since my company also deals with cottages too - from fences to eighteen-story buildings, we are building everything and we have nothing to learn from the Finns.
                  1. inkass_98
                    inkass_98 20 February 2017 06: 55
                    0
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    and we have nothing to learn from the Finns.

                    In terms of construction - maybe. But shipbuilding is at their level, and they are using Finnish marine diesels half the world.
                    1. Topotun
                      Topotun 20 February 2017 17: 15
                      0
                      They once did their diesel engines. Can I raise it?
              2. commbatant
                commbatant 20 February 2017 00: 46
                0
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                Quote: Semurg
                Karelian-Finnish ASSR?

                Moreover, since the “Winter War” and the Russian army the possibilities, to put it mildly, are different. Yes, and the Finnish army, to put it mildly, is not the same ... Maybe cancel Lenin's kindness? .... The referendum, kind people and all - Finland is ours ... laughing
                Rzhu, of course ... In figs is that Finland for us? We have 20 kilometers from the city on the Volga - and the steppe to the horizon in any direction. And in Siberia, 100 kilometers to either side of the taiga ... How many Finland are in the Krasnoyarsk Territory ?????


                Opportunities like we had other before, read the History of the Great Patriotic War, in terms of Finland getting out of the war ...
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 20 February 2017 15: 52
                  +4
                  Quote: commbatant
                  read the history of the Great Patriotic War

                  I have two "Great Patriotic War stories" came from the Great Patriotic War - father and grandfather, not counting other relatives ... Plus I studied at Soviet school grew up Soviet films and books about the war. Plus a complete courtyard during my childhood, "Uncle Sasha, Uncle Petya, etc.", who liberated Warsaw, who stormed Königsberg, who fought in Stalingrad, who took Berlin ... So everything that a normal citizen of Russia about the Great Patriotic War is supposed to know - I know. And about Finland, too. Read and heard ...
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      2. Berkut24
        Berkut24 19 February 2017 18: 44
        +6
        So, do not confuse and do not scare people!
        The army of dates has only 5000 people. The rest are reservists.
        1. Veteran
          Veteran 19 February 2017 21: 12
          +4
          Not certainly in that way. The total strength of the Armed Forces ("defense forces") of Finland is approx. 35 thousand people. In the initial period of the war, ground forces are formed as part of the ground forces, which includes combat ready and mobilization units of general troops with a high degree of readiness, and local defense units. The deployment time for 2 is 3 days. Here is their total number and is increasing to 280 thousand people, i.e. close to the size of mobresource - 300 thousand people. The total reserve of Finland is 340 thousand people.
          1. Berkut24
            Berkut24 19 February 2017 22: 21
            +3
            In general, you can agree, but 5000 is the amount of instant readiness, so to speak. We have more than a million MOs. "Belligerent" personnel of about 850 people. We remove the fleet, rear aviation, etc. The remainder is the ground forces, which are ready here and now - 000. It would never occur to the beginning of a nuclear war to begin to call up another 250 people because they will not have time. They do not even have time to notify.
            So it is in Finland. No one will give time to mobilize. There will be no 2 days. There will be 5000 people ready for battle. The remaining 30 (minus vacationers, patients, etc.) will have to organize mobilization, distribution of weapons, ammunition, food and communications.
            No matter how much was collected in instant readiness, Finland understands that this is nothing compared to the fact that in one day it can appear on the other side of the border. And nothing about that first forward strike by aviation and tactical missiles that will knock out the mobilization infrastructure.
            1. Veteran
              Veteran 19 February 2017 23: 26
              +4
              5 thousand Finnish warriors of "instant readiness" do not correspond to today's reality. The Finnish ground forces include 12 brigades, the staff of the peacetime brigade 1,5 - 2 thousand people. (in military 6,8 thousand) + ZA regiments + SpO battalion + helicopter squadron, total 16 thousand people. In addition to the SV, there are Air Force 3,8 thousand people. and Navy 3,5 thousand people So we go beyond 20 thousand already ready for combat. They have only conscripts over 16 thousand
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92 19 February 2017 20: 56
      +8
      Quote: aleksfill
      Neighbors are neutral, as it were.

      So what? Neighbors, while the neutrals! I do not understand the problem. Russia is re-equipping with new promising systems, Finland decided to replace the fleet of old self-propelled guns with new, more powerful and promising ones. What is the problem? hi
  2. Wolka
    Wolka 19 February 2017 16: 55
    +1
    with all this, it is very interesting how South Korean saushi will behave in the climate of Suomi ...
    1. alone
      alone 19 February 2017 17: 00
      +9
      and not how, self-propelled guns are designed for use in weather conditions +50 - 50 degrees.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 20 February 2017 20: 54
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        and not how, self-propelled guns are designed for use in weather conditions +50 - 50 degrees.

        Practice often throws up unexpected surprises.
        And what worked in the jungle may fail in the swamp.
        Moreover, a frozen swamp
        1. alone
          alone 20 February 2017 22: 16
          0
          No one is safe from surprises. This can be with any equipment from any country. And your equipment is no exception. hi
  3. alone
    alone 19 February 2017 16: 57
    +8
    purely military.
    The Finns make a very smart decision. They change 122mm to 155mm. Besides, they win about 16km against active-reactive OBs at 40km.
    And 146 million for 48pcs, + maintenance, repair and training is a good price.
    1. Franciscan
      Franciscan 19 February 2017 17: 02
      0
      Old ones will be sold. and beat off something.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 19 February 2017 17: 42
        +3
        Quote: Franciscan
        Old ones will be sold. and beat off something.


        Moreover, there is someone to sell the old
        1. Franciscan
          Franciscan 19 February 2017 18: 30
          +2
          The junk will push the kaklam away, along with BC.
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 19 February 2017 18: 34
      +7
      I would say a great price! Great SPGs, one of the best in the world. 3 million apiece.
      1. Franciscan
        Franciscan 19 February 2017 18: 56
        0
        I agree, a great price tag.
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 19 February 2017 23: 05
        +2
        After the Coalition, the best.
        Even the Germans were overtaken. hi
  4. Hedgehog
    Hedgehog 19 February 2017 16: 57
    +2
    Here are the Finns swarmed, woof woof are going to do.
  5. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 19 February 2017 17: 06
    +3
    Information for reflection:
    During military operations (any - from a counter-terrorist operation to a military collision with a neighbor and aliens) there is a probability of loss of military equipment (ammunition consumption, loss of crew and be lowered).
    In the case of non-production of strange required equipment, where to replenish the departed?
    1. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 19 February 2017 17: 25
      0
      Quote: ShadowCat
      In the case of non-production of strange required equipment, where to replenish the departed?

      Buy or rent, paying what is. Well, or beg for some ... winked
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 19 February 2017 18: 38
        +1
        Quote: Skifotavr
        Buy or rent, paying what is.

        It will be fun to see the delivery in current realities;)

        Quote: Skifotavr
        Well, or beg for some ... winked

        Again rests on delivery.

        Although I'm afraid there will be a problem with the retraining of crews and supplies in both cases.
    2. Franciscan
      Franciscan 19 February 2017 18: 31
      0
      From storage warehouses.
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 19 February 2017 18: 39
        0
        Is logical. Crews who know how to use them and ammunition (considering consumption), too?
  6. demiurg
    demiurg 19 February 2017 17: 07
    +5
    Well done, one word. Take the best in the world. The advantages of non-blocking are obvious.
  7. Proton
    Proton 19 February 2017 17: 10
    0
    laughing and why do Finns have such formidable guns, from one end of Finland to the other end to shoot?
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 19 February 2017 18: 37
      +7
      "and why do the Finns ...."
      probably said the same in 1939 ..
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 20 February 2017 01: 56
        +9
        They didn’t just talk, but offered to swap territories “for good,” that is, diplomatically. If they didn’t "rest", there would be no such fact as the Winter War in our history. request
  8. Franciscan
    Franciscan 19 February 2017 17: 32
    +3
    Normal move, get rid of junk and buy something new.
  9. haenx
    haenx 19 February 2017 18: 52
    0
    Thunder is the development of German weapons designers. Automatic transmission for self-propelled guns manufactured by the company Daimler from Germany. Because sales of self-propelled guns are made only with the permission of Germany.
  10. Caretaker
    Caretaker 19 February 2017 19: 52
    +1
    The goal is the transition to the NATO caliber. In case of war.
    1. Franciscan
      Franciscan 19 February 2017 19: 58
      0
      well, they don’t have their own production. Russia in the event of war will not sell. so the benefit is on the face. By and large, Russia would also do well to have 155 caliber guns. They are more common and more common. and the market for military equipment will expand if something happens.
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 20 February 2017 01: 46
        +9
        So "Acacia", "Msta-S" and "Kaolitsiya-SV" have a caliber of 152 mm, that is, 6-inch. Surely, if necessary, they can deliver the NATO caliber of 155 mm. wink
        1. Siberian
          Siberian 20 February 2017 10: 04
          0
          Quote: Svarog51
          So "Acacia", "Msta-S" and "Kaolitsiya-SV" have a caliber of 152 mm, that is, 6-inch. Surely, if necessary, they can put the NATO caliber of 155 mm.

          What do you mean? Recycle our self-propelled gun barrel under 155 mm? Do you think that here, as in small arms, you can simply change the barrel to a different caliber ??? Or am I misunderstood something?
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 20 February 2017 12: 32
            +9
            I wanted to say that there are developments. As the saying goes: "Any excuses for your grandmother."
            1. Siberian
              Siberian 20 February 2017 13: 13
              0
              Sense to us to produce (develop) self-propelled guns for NATO calibers? (exception weapons for the Airborne Forces) unless, for sale to a potential enemy ... and then, no one will buy IMHO.
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 20 February 2017 13: 47
                +9
                There is always meaning. For example, we bought finns from South Korea installations with BC. The transport with the BC arrived safely, and with the Grads it fell into a storm and drown (or someone helped). And here is our proposal: "Acacia" for your BC you do not want to purchase? Inexpensive! " wink How do you like this? repeat
                1. Siberian
                  Siberian 20 February 2017 13: 59
                  +1
                  Funny layout)))
  11. Zlat070
    Zlat070 19 February 2017 19: 55
    0
    From the video I did not understand, are there two slaughtering chtoli? One puts a shell, and the second charge? And inside the tower they pull the rope? A couple of kapets! In my 2С3М we even clicked on a button, and there was one slaughtering one!
    1. SCHNIFER
      SCHNIFER 19 February 2017 20: 15
      0
      https://topwar.ru/4105-korejskaya-sau-k9-thunder-
      populyarnaya-klassika.html
    2. SCHNIFER
      SCHNIFER 19 February 2017 20: 23
      +2
      "... The shells are loaded into the breech and sent automatically, while the propellant charges in conventional cartridges or modern modular type are stacked manually. The self-propelled gun ammunition consists of 46 separate loading rounds ...."
    3. Svarog51
      Svarog51 20 February 2017 01: 38
      +10
      Hmm ... rechargeable - this is from the word "recharge", as the word "recharge" seems to be present in your comment - then the recharger comes out after all. repeat
  12. Evil 55
    Evil 55 20 February 2017 02: 27
    0
    There is such a thing as adaptation .. Will Korean cars be adapted to Finnish snow and frost, will they become real combat power, like the same Carnation, their military operation will show ..