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Speech Poroshenko in Munich was a complete failure

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Ukrainian online edition "European truth"considered disastrous the speech of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko at the Munich Security Conference, demonstrating a decline in world interest in the conflict in the Donbas.

It is indicated that the organizers put his speech on Friday, and not on Saturday, when key speakers usually speak at the forum. In past years, Poroshenko spoke at the conference on Saturday.

The theme of the speech of Poroshenko was the problem “The Future of the West: decay or return?”. However, he avoided it and, not differing in originality, talked about the Russian-Ukrainian relations, that is, what he had heard from him dozens of times: about the impossibility of appeasing the Kremlin, about Putin’s hatred for Ukraine, about the importance of maintaining the sanctions. Other participants in the panel discussion - the Polish president Andrzej Duda, the German and British foreign ministers, who traditionally support Ukraine - ignored the topics proposed by Poroshenko. In this regard, his supported only US Senator John McCain, who also constantly mentions the Russian threat in his speeches.



As a result, according to the author of the article, “Poroshenko sat for about an hour and a half as a statistician, while other participants discussed new challenges of the Western world - changes after Brexit, new US policies, and so on.” He considers this case a rather symptomatic signal:

Ukraine is gradually leaving the agenda - from the list of topics that world leaders are discussing. In Munich, this became apparent. And the real problem is not that attention to Ukraine is falling, because this could not happen. The world is full of other hot topics not connected with us ... The problem is different: official Kiev was not ready for a new reality, for the fact that we have competition for the world's attention.
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  1. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 18 February 2017 19: 36
    +6
    "The future of the West: decline or return?"
    Oh yes, it’s just the topic for Poroshenko, he’s holding back the horde from the East. Why did they let him in there, inertia?)))
    1. Zibelew
      Zibelew 18 February 2017 19: 38
      +17
      Oh, Petya .. Now, if I had grabbed a piece of Muscovite ice-aggressor from the Odessa port, maybe that would have happened)) Well, okay, Poros now has a new topic for his speech
      1. Monos
        Monos 18 February 2017 19: 45
        +19
        The Ukrainian Internet publication European Pravda considered the speech of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko at the Munich Security Conference a failure

        Pedro, it's time to change the program. "Flip Korbut" or something ..
        .
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 18 February 2017 20: 10
          +11
          Quote: Monos
          Pedro, it's time to change the program. "Flip Korbut" or something ..

          Nothing will help him. No flips, no mortals! He just p ..... C ..! Does this idiot really not understand this? The State Department used it, wiped it, and forgot this candy blotter!
          1. cniza
            cniza 18 February 2017 20: 47
            +8
            Lord, yes, no one needs Ukraine, we must admit, but we can’t do anything about it.
            1. MstislavHrabr
              MstislavHrabr 18 February 2017 22: 50
              +16
              You are very wrong. Everyone needs Ukraine.
              The West will keep this power to give it loans, privatize ruined enterprises for a penny, and support ukrov the opinion that Russia is to blame for everything. For Russia without Ukraine, that a man without one arm ... Then Ukraine will be "presented" to us with huge debts and Natsik people aged 12 to 30 years. Enormous resources will be spent on restoration and we will again lag behind ... The closer the radio economy will be, by this time, the Ukrainian economy is the better for the West ... Therefore, Poroshenko will be protected as long as it is possible ... For in this way without war with Russia, the West receives a geopolitical advantage.
              1. just exp
                just exp 19 February 2017 06: 29
                +2
                why are we without Ukraine as if without a hand? what does she give us? What will we gain if we unite? and what will we lose if we do not unite?
                1. dauria
                  dauria 19 February 2017 09: 37
                  +4
                  why are we without Ukraine as if without a hand? what does she give us? What will we gain if we unite?


                  The bridgeheads with the infrastructure are airfields, a network of roads and railways, natural water barriers, bridges, power grids, settlements. You can give everything to the enemy, but Voronezh and Bryansk will become front-line cities, and Crimea will not last long if something happens.
                  For the sake of three airfields (and there is nothing else there), the United States entered Afghanistan - try to drive it out.
                  1. just exp
                    just exp 19 February 2017 09: 53
                    +3
                    please do not bring nonsense, especially about Afghanistan, otherwise I’m starting to worry about the mental health of the country.
                    1. dauria
                      dauria 19 February 2017 10: 08
                      +2
                      please do not carry nonsense


                      Well, you, as I understand it, are for world peace. Misha Gorbachev too. I started by the way with concessions in Afghanistan. Now we have "peaceful" bases in the Baltic states, strange Azerbaijan, and Central Asia. And there is not a single port on the planet that we can count on. There is neither Vietnam, nor Libya, nor Iraq, nor Cuba. Though clinging here to Syria, and then okay.
                      We give Ukraine (even if the western part to the Dnieper) - you can close the shop called "independent" Russia. Wait for a moment of weak government and completely smother. However, the name may be left, but in fact there will be a colony of resources.
            2. sir_obs
              sir_obs 18 February 2017 23: 43
              +11
              What side is it to us? It was needed, like a gasket between us and the west. But whether this gasket is active or passive is already not so important. The main thing is not to return to the "fraternal" topic. Do not invest in it means. It must be like a fire in the steppe. In order for the fire not to reach us, everything on this territory should be burnt by the oncoming fire. Fire does not spread where there is nothing to burn.
              Emotions must give way to pragmatism; American experience must be used. With the "friends" does not work, it's time to move on to protecting interests.
            3. viktor.
              viktor. 19 February 2017 04: 11
              +2
              the horses, the main horse, jumped on because the cookies didn’t work, they will tear the GDP to pieces or it will be like Misha Khruzin around the world to drag homeless people, but one day he will die like a dog in the gateway, and Russia will again have to feed the horses for the next races !!!
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 18 February 2017 22: 17
            +5
            What personally I very much doubt. Where does he end? he is a very rich man, a handshake in the world community at the highest level, currently increasing his capital. In the worst case scenario, it will move to some kind of London and will live there without needing anything and without refusing anything to itself.
            1. just exp
              just exp 19 February 2017 06: 35
              +2
              as practice shows, the West during hunger canned foods that will no longer give benefits cuts into meat.
              It was already that in London all bureaucrats from other countries (from Russia for sure) must confirm the origin of their capital, otherwise these capital are withdrawn. like expensive apartment-houses. and this is the first part of the famine, the second will go more legal canned food.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 19 February 2017 13: 25
                +1
                it was already that in london all bureaucrats from other countries (from Russia for sure

                Exactly. Exactly what from Russia. Well, at the trial of Abramovich against Abram Ovich, it was determined that all the capital acquired in the 90s in Russia was criminally acquired. Poroshenko is not from Russia, but from a "young democritical European country." Well, can they finally leave him alone for faithful service? Well, London is not the only city in the world either? Here the last supreme thief managed to escape to Rostov. Poroshenko in Berlin, for example, love, suddenly the Germans are not as bloodthirsty as shaving.

                And note, this is only if he still has to flee from Ukraine, and yet he can get out so much that he simply will calmly retire and live there again as an out-of-parliament deputy. And what if he doesn’t leave at all and will be able to stay at the helm for a couple more terms? In general, it is not for you and me to feel sorry for him and worry about his problems.
            2. Felix
              Felix 19 February 2017 08: 47
              +4
              Quote: alexmach
              What personally I very much doubt. Where does he end? he is a very rich man, a handshake in the world community at the highest level, currently increasing his capital. In the worst case scenario, it will move to some kind of London and will live there without needing anything and without refusing anything to itself.

              Berezovsky was also very rich, but, as practice has shown, one dough is not enough, and without any influence or connections, the owner of the money turns into a wonderful object for divorce
            3. viktor.
              viktor. 19 February 2017 16: 08
              0
              How is the kingdom of heaven Mr. Berezovsky? laughing
        2. vlad66
          vlad66 18 February 2017 20: 14
          +12
          Quote: Monos
          Pedro, it's time to change the program. "Flip Korbut" or something ..

          Not Petya has one program, and he does not change it. fellow
        3. 79807420129
          79807420129 18 February 2017 20: 22
          +17
          Quote: Monos
          Pedro, it's time to change the program.

          The troubles of Ukraine will not allow him: yes
        4. avdkrd
          avdkrd 19 February 2017 01: 50
          +1
          Quote: Monos
          Pedro, it's time to change the program. "Flip Korbut" include something.

          Thanks for the picture. Of course, Petro lost weight on her, although the girl from him turned out to be colorful. Drunk, why not train ...
          What could this stub say except rehearsed complaints about Putin? Europe is unlikely to look with understanding at how it publicly "craps" under itself; it itself has recently done the same thing (in the historical sense). @ they usually sit and fight with the Russians in a crowd, but they shit and are responsible for the "bazaar", usually everyone for himself ... Europe remembers, and Petya beguiled
    2. Evil543
      Evil543 18 February 2017 19: 45
      +2
      But to be honest, this clown already got it, for two years already, if Europeans, then this is progress.
    3. izya top
      izya top 18 February 2017 19: 47
      +10
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Oh yes, just the topic for Poroshenko

      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 18 February 2017 19: 57
        +11
        Andrey, Poroshenko is a political titan. I kept wondering who he reminds me of this strong-willed double chin ...? Could he be a descendant of Hercules ..? belay ... The find was made in the summer, but considerable time was spent on deciphering the inscriptions on the tombstone. The result shocked even eminent scientists - as it turned out, Hercules was buried in the Popelnyansky district ...
        1. izya top
          izya top 18 February 2017 20: 01
          +27
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          . I was wondering whom he reminds me of this strong-willed double chin ...?

          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 18 February 2017 20: 37
            +6
            belay
            Izya! Running to the cottage !! They rob you !!!
            1. izya top
              izya top 18 February 2017 20: 49
              +6
              Quote: Angry Guerrilla
              Running to the cottage

              got sick? there snow on ... uh ... waist-high sad
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 19 February 2017 05: 06
                +11
                This is good! In hot pursuit of "taking the demon alive!" wink
        2. Sergey F
          Sergey F 19 February 2017 06: 07
          +1
          And Zeus was born right on the Maidan!
          I saw it myself!
    4. vovanpain
      vovanpain 18 February 2017 20: 00
      +14
      The Future of the West: Decline or Return? "

      This topic is too complicated for Petruha; he needs to speak on this subject. fellow
    5. CALL.
      CALL. 18 February 2017 20: 04
      +15
      The Ukrainian Internet publication European Pravda considered the speech of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko at the Munich Security Conference a failure
    6. svp67
      svp67 18 February 2017 20: 30
      +3
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Why did they let him go there, inertia?)))

      So, it was necessary to "fill in pauses" with "clowns" ....
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 18 February 2017 20: 34
        +2
        So they plugged p ... auz lol
      2. Svarog51
        Svarog51 19 February 2017 05: 14
        +11
        Do not offend the great artists - Popov, Nikulin, Pencil, equating this to them ... as the Thunderbird hinted rightly - “Tampax”! hi
        1. svp67
          svp67 19 February 2017 06: 46
          +1
          Quote: Svarog51
          Do not offend great artists

          I didn’t even think, because the Clowns listed by you, and it’s with a capital “K”, and this “clown” is in QUOTES.
    7. sad1940
      sad1940 18 February 2017 23: 36
      +1
      the right person for them to drive a wave
    8. Vend
      Vend 20 February 2017 09: 38
      0
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      "The future of the West: decline or return?"
      Oh yes, it’s just the topic for Poroshenko, he’s holding back the horde from the East. Why did they let him in there, inertia?)))

      Yes, there’s no one to bother with. So they invited laughing
  2. friend of animals
    friend of animals 18 February 2017 19: 36
    +6
    And what's the difference for us? Poroshenko could appear in Munich even as blue as in Mariupol, Ukraine is a political project, and no one will leave him halfway.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 18 February 2017 19: 42
      +4
      friend of animals
      and no one will leave him halfway.
      That you sho! belay So I see how Petya will be taken to a fool with a fever. And everyone will support him until the end laughing
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 18 February 2017 19: 46
        +4
        Maybe better in the morgue? hi
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 18 February 2017 20: 26
          +4
          Maybe better in the morgue?

          What for? To the crematorium, then to the columbarium .... And everyone else from the Kiev organized criminal group there too. Tsrulyam from the SBU, and the whole SBU for the company of horror kick, so that they flew through the Atlantic puddle without changes. Only then, perhaps, catharsis will happen, loonies in the fool, Ukrainian society will take up the mind and begin to rebuild its Ukraine.
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 18 February 2017 19: 55
        +9
        Europe didn’t rumble in one place in Europe. It is not possible to transfer goods to Russia. To keep afloat this political miscarriage of the early USSR is very expensive. Entirely this formation is not necessary for Russia. There are no energy carriers on an industrial scale in Ukraine remaining. because of coal, howled .And before the collapse at the Ukrainian thermal power station, there are only a few days left. Now, for example, LDNR fighters are subject to recognition in Russia.
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 18 February 2017 20: 29
      0
      [quote = friend of beasts] Ukraine is a political project, and this project, funded by the State Department and carried out by the corrupt Pigskin, will bring this pseudo-education to a judicial BENCH!
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  3. pvv113
    pvv113 18 February 2017 19: 37
    +8
    he was supported only by US Senator John McCain

    It’s very sad when only psychotherapist clients support you.
  4. Serg koma
    Serg koma 18 February 2017 19: 38
    0
    No matter how much the child cries, if only they give money to the "most powerful army in Europe")))
  5. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 18 February 2017 19: 39
    +1
    And he would have sacked the glass - so right away the uterus would have been cut and the owners' interest quickly appeared, because I would have to look for a way out. And sobering and nothing to moo in such forums wassat , especially if you're not interested in anyone lol You have to be more creative, since there is nothing to offer repeat And if he waved two, then he would finally become a star ... winked Maybe a striptease would have bungled on the table. People would have left the memory ... You look, and you would remember who PARAschenko is and what they eat Ukraine with fellow
    Total business request laughing
  6. Luga
    Luga 18 February 2017 19: 43
    +2
    The world is changing. With the weakening of mattress control, a vacuum of power appears in an independent one, which the Europeans themselves, and even more so the Svidomo themselves, cannot fill. Poroshenko’s speech reminded me of the panicky “what to do, what to do, say at least someone at least something, the Russians are coming!” The red line through the entire speech is panic and confusion.
    I am quite satisfied - since Petyunya is afraid, then there is something. Oh, I smell, there will be a booze.
  7. izya top
    izya top 18 February 2017 19: 45
    +13
    even promised money?
  8. japs
    japs 18 February 2017 19: 46
    +7
    Pedroshenko did not have didactic materials, as his accomplices didn’t deliver from Avdeevka either pieces of wrecked vehicles, or passports of Russian aggressors, even fragments of Iskander and remnants of Armat
    did not have time to collect. Goofing off ...
  9. volodya
    volodya 18 February 2017 19: 50
    +4
    Pedro is already tired of everyone with his struggle with Russia! It seems he has nothing more to say!
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    1. user1212
      user1212 18 February 2017 20: 54
      +3
      Pushkin did not write this. Author Elena Lavrentieva.
  11. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 18 February 2017 19: 57
    +2
    All the boar of the rooster - you will soon be eaten! am
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 18 February 2017 20: 07
    +6
    Poroshenko does not understand, his time is over!
    Jora McCain with some kind of slave!
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 18 February 2017 20: 28
      +3
      Jora McCain with some kind of slave!
      I don’t understand what that means in the picture, are they really gay people what
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 19 February 2017 02: 18
        +1
        Balu Yesterday, 20:28 ↑ New
        Jora McCain with some kind of slave!
        I don’t understand what that means in the picture, are they really gay people


        no, one senile old age, the other mind never had ... now they have the pants and flows ... laughing
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 19 February 2017 19: 40
        +1
        Quote: Balu
        Jora McCain with some kind of slave!
        I don’t understand what that means in the picture, are they really gay people what

        The picture goes to the place with the statement, where McCain is standing with his back and his name is mentioned \, and the name of Poroshenko ...........
  13. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 18 February 2017 20: 59
    +3
    Spectators threw the unsuccessful clown into rotten sanctioned apples. laughing
  14. RUS33
    RUS33 18 February 2017 23: 26
    +3
    Quote: alexmach
    In the worst case scenario, it will move to some kind of London and will live there without needing anything and without refusing anything to itself.

    Berezovsky moved ... I hope you know the result. Gone into another world bankrupt.
  15. Suhow
    Suhow 19 February 2017 00: 10
    +1
    Partners need Ukraine as a means of diverting the Russian Federation from attention in other areas. For example, SAR and some ethical and economic experiments. The partners have more important things to do. Interestingly stubborn people think about this ?? Adequate yes, but there are few of them.
  16. Oleg L.
    Oleg L. 19 February 2017 00: 36
    +2
    The Americans made their game, failed and left. Throwing Ukraine like a torn condom. The question remains, what to do with the embittered semi-wild warring state in the center of Europe? And this is no longer funny.
  17. aszzz888
    aszzz888 19 February 2017 02: 15
    0
    Shouting about the “aggression of Russia” is Petsky’s favorite hobby. But there is NO greater mind, and the mericatos, on the march, stopped reporting to him, and there were no pertinent ones either. Uso - the client is ready, with removal to the trash !!!!! laughing
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 19 February 2017 02: 48
    +1
    But who cares what Poroshenko can say?
    If Poroshenko is a faithful bitch of the USA and Europe (at the direction of the USA),
    then he can speak either with the words of the State Department,
    or their own, but what would it be like the words of the State Department.
    So it’s just not interesting.
  19. shinobi
    shinobi 19 February 2017 05: 09
    +2
    Without Crimea (control over the Black Sea) and Donbas (iron and coal), Ruin is unnecessary to anyone. After 5-10 years, the poor and hungry will crawl back to Russia's elder sister, asks homeward. What has already happened in history.
    1. just exp
      just exp 19 February 2017 06: 47
      0
      what was already in history.

      it wasn’t just that. this is repeated constantly, and now we again feed these parasites and have a sip.
  20. Sergey F
    Sergey F 19 February 2017 06: 09
    +3
    And I liked Lavrov’s statement - we won’t lift the sanctions against the EU until Kiev fulfills the Minsk agreements!
    Poroshenko, ay! Come on!
  21. krops777
    krops777 19 February 2017 06: 40
    0
    P. Poroshenko identified the problem "The future of the West: decline or return?"


    It seems like defending an essay in a school, with Pedro getting it? laughing
  22. Irek
    Irek 19 February 2017 09: 01
    +2
    As always.
  23. behemot
    behemot 19 February 2017 09: 34
    +1
    It is necessary to stop any relations with the Nazis. Let this compost pit decay itself. Ukrainians want to live a normal life, they themselves must solve problems with the "authorities", with the economy. They like living SO, let them live, this is their business. And our business is to fence off this stinking hole. And regularly shut up the jaws of moral freaks like McCain.
  24. Kp0t
    Kp0t 19 February 2017 10: 16
    0
    Drank up, drunk over
  25. The poor man
    The poor man 19 February 2017 10: 18
    +1
    As a measure of forcing Kiev to peace in Ukraine, Russia needs to install DPR and LPR electronic warfare systems, for example: Mercury or something else, to protect civilians from missiles and other shells, as humanitarian aid, if not a lethal defense. And in no case should they be removed until Kiev fully complies with the agreements prescribed by Minsk 2. And in general, our government has long had to set the task, KRET and other scientific and design organizations, think about creating reliable electronic warfare systems for civil defense and place them around the perimeter of Russia, whatever it would cost us. The life of Russians, I think, is more expensive.
  26. WarriorWolf
    WarriorWolf 20 February 2017 19: 47
    0
    So they already got everyone that supports the old Amer-senility and ... that's it!