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Is there a future for Russian military facilities in Belarus?

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Is there a future for Russian military facilities in Belarus?



In 1995, the Russian Federation and Belarus signed an agreement according to which real estate and land for the operation of military facilities of the Volga radar and 43 communications center of the Navy Vileyka are transferred to the RF Armed Forces for 25 years without tax refunds. The lease expires in the year 2020 - just under the next presidential campaign in Belarus.

The Volga-type radar is deployed in the village of Gantsevichi in 48 km from Baranavichy. Its construction was started in 1981, then mothballed. The works on its completion and commissioning were intensified after the loss of a similar station in Latvia (n. Skrunda). In 2002, the radar was deployed on the Russian Space Forces, and in 2003, it was put on alert in the missile attack warning system. The introduction of the station made it possible to restore a single radar field in the western and north-western directions.

The object is part of the missile attack warning system (EWS) and closes on the so-called “nuclear briefcase” of the President of Russia. With the help of the Volga, ballistic missiles, space objects and airspace are monitored over the patrols of NATO submarines in the North Atlantic and the Norwegian Sea. In the sector of responsibility, it provides tracking of missile launches at a distance of 5 thousand kilometers and observation of space objects the size of a ball and a diameter of several millimeters to any of the orbits.

In addition, this radar is integrated into a unified air defense system of the Union State, is an element of the regional Belarusian-Russian grouping of troops (forces) and is part of the unified air defense system of the CIS, within the framework of which the automated exchange of information about the air situation between command posts of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan.

The second object is the zonal communications point of the Navy Vileyka (or the Antey radio station), located in 10 km from the district center of the Minsk region of the same name. Operated with 1964 year. Through "Antey", the exchange of coded signals of the Central communications hub of the Navy and submarines on alert in almost all oceans is carried out. The object also has a connection with the cherished button.

It is noteworthy that, on the basis of the above-mentioned agreement, both stations do not have the status of military bases. But, given the fact that the Volga radar is part of the strategic nuclear deterrent forces of Russia and it is possible to transmit commands from the suitcase through both stations, the importance of these objects is difficult to overestimate. Therefore, it is logical to assume that the issue of extending the lease is already being worked out.
Expect that Minsk will extend the bilateral agreement on the same terms, i.e. free of charge, not necessary. This is due to the difficult economic situation, and the heightened differences, both on internal and external issues within the framework of joint integration projects of the Union State, the EAEU and the CSTO.

In fact, there are not so many options for the development of events. Perhaps Minsk will follow the example of Kazakhstan and set a rental price. Especially since this practice is widely used throughout the world. For example, Poland earned 2016 million dollars only for using landfills during NATO exercises in 14.

However, one should not exclude that the Kremlin can offer Minsk to continue the tradition of military-barter relations with the CSTO member states and in return for paying the rent will supply samples of military equipment and weapons. Against this background, it will be appropriate to recall the fact that Belarusians many times asked our leadership for the supply of modern weapons, both on preferential terms and in leasing. Moreover, now the leadership of the Belarusian defense ministry is announcing plans to acquire the BTR-82A armored personnel carriers, Su-30CM aircrafts and the Nona-M1 mortar complexes from Russia.

2020 will be a difficult year for the leadership of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, since in addition to military facilities in Belarus, the lease term of the 102-th Russian military base in Gyumri is also expiring.

However, it is important to remember that the security issues of the country should be viewed not only through the economic lens and the existing differences - the presence of allies and their support cost much more.
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  1. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 18 February 2017 06: 13
    +9
    Yes, this is a question? All of these CIS countries, union states, the Collective Security Treaty Organization, are a shaky foundation for the joint existence of the armed forces. Until there is a powerful state capable of uniting all peoples into a single fist, with a single center, the command of the armed forces, this uncertainty will be so. Now Moldova wants to maintain neutrality. If it succeeds, then Belarus can take advantage of this. And this will already be a problem.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 18 February 2017 06: 29
      +9
      I don’t think that Belarus will begin to think about neutrality. Now there are too many emotions and foams, especially the inflated media .. Everything will remain in the same places, at least I hope so .. hi
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Yes, this is a question? All of these CIS countries, union states, the Collective Security Treaty Organization, are a shaky foundation for the joint existence of the armed forces. Until there is a powerful state capable of uniting all peoples into a single fist, with a single center, the command of the armed forces, this uncertainty will be so. Now Moldova wants to maintain neutrality. If it succeeds, then Belarus can take advantage of this. And this will already be a problem.
    2. Finches
      Finches 18 February 2017 07: 37
      +8
      One more brother ...
      1. passing
        passing 18 February 2017 08: 52
        +9
        what is interesting from the whole union to date, only Kazakhs, they are not Slavs, turned out to be the least problematic neighbors. Well, there are no complaints against the Kazakhs and there are few articles on Kazakhstan
        1. Finches
          Finches 18 February 2017 08: 57
          +8
          Kazakhs are oriental wise, especially their aksakal in the president’s chair, not flickering, but Father, a cunning clown!
          1. astronom1973n
            astronom1973n 18 February 2017 09: 01
            +12
            Yeah wiseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeest ..... finally! They just won’t get Nazarbayev such a whistle, mother don’t cry! All of them are brothers when they need what!
            1. Finches
              Finches 18 February 2017 09: 03
              +2
              I did not voice that there are similar problems in Kazakhstan, especially in the south ... but I emphasized the official position of the authorities more! hi
      2. vasek5533
        vasek5533 18 February 2017 09: 41
        +14
        And what is wrong? There was a union state, there was no border, free bases, general air defense, production cooperation, equal energy prices. So no, they started yelling about enough to feed Belarus ... And now there is almost a border, trade is being curtailed, and we probably have to forget about the bases. And everyone will blame on the fact that Old Man is cunning ... and turned to the West. For that fought for it and ran.
        1. Finches
          Finches 18 February 2017 09: 45
          +15
          It is your right to think so!

          But let me have the right, as I believe! And I think that’s just that - either together, or, live independently, including playing according to the rules of the modern market world ... You can lie under NATO nigers - this is your independent right! hi
          1. atakan
            atakan 18 February 2017 13: 05
            +6
            .vasek5533 And now there is almost a border, trade is being curtailed, and you probably have to forget about the bases.

            Apparently all the same, the truth was hidden from such Belarusians))
            They are not visible and not heard. A couple of steps to the dill "And me for sho?".
        2. Kenneth
          Kenneth 18 February 2017 10: 27
          +5
          There was no single state. The cunning old man and his sons and daughters lived at the expense of a bad relative without helping him in any way.
        3. Dr. Sorge
          Dr. Sorge 18 February 2017 17: 34
          +3
          It seems that the info-war has gone into the offensive stage. Well, here, sadly, too. They want to destroy us so that NATO columns would not stand in Poland, but near Smolensk. Alas for them, they can’t wait for it :)
        4. KaPToC
          KaPToC 18 February 2017 23: 33
          +3
          Quote: vasek5533
          It was a union state

          There was no union state.
          Quote: vasek5533
          there was no border

          For re-export to Russia
          Quote: vasek5533
          free bases

          ??
          Quote: vasek5533
          total air defense

          At the expense of Russia
          Quote: vasek5533
          production cooperation

          Admission of Belarusian goods to the Russian market.
          Quote: vasek5533
          equal energy prices

          Why on earth do you have such preferences?
          Quote: vasek5533
          And everyone will blame on the fact that Old Man is cunning ... and turned to the West.

          Suitcase - Station - Europe.
          Quote: vasek5533
          For that fought for it and ran.

          This is all the result of your cunning.
          1. vasek5533
            vasek5533 19 February 2017 02: 19
            0
            belay victim of propaganda.
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 19 February 2017 11: 57
              0
              Quote: vasek5533
              victim of propaganda.

              Advocacy of what?
          2. nerd.su
            nerd.su 20 February 2017 10: 30
            +1
            Quote: KaPToC
            There was no union state.

            Quote: KaPToC
            Suitcase - Station - Europe.

            Lukashenko refused to sell Belarusian assets to our oligarchs for nothing, and now the Russians believe that there was no union state and sent Belarusians to Europe. Verily, the great love of the people for the oligarchs is great. Or maybe you are not a Russian?

            Quote: KaPToC
            At the expense of Russia

            The reality of this life is that weak states live off the strong. There is no equality. Do you want to live at someone’s expense? Why not in the Baltic states?
            Do you live in Russia? Remember, as long as Russia exists, there will be states that live at our expense. If that (“what” in this context, the victory of your position suitcase-station-Europe), they will be happy to live at the expense of Europe or the states.

            Although, to call the Old Man to a more reasonable position is necessary. But the station Europe is an idiot bust, excuse me for being straightforward.
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 20 February 2017 22: 10
              +1
              Quote: bot.su
              Lukashenko refused to sell Belarusian assets to our oligarchs for nothing, and now the Russians believe that there was no union state and sent Belarusians to Europe. Verily, the great love of the people for the oligarchs is great. Or maybe you are not a Russian?

              Again everything rests on your independence! He didn’t sell it, well done, so maybe he will sell his products somewhere else but not in Russia, but let him buy raw materials at world prices - if he is so independent. In fact, Lukashenko refused economic integration with Russia - well, so a suitcase - a station - fly wherever you want.
              Quote: bot.su
              The reality of this life is that weak states live off the strong.

              Stop boys, what kind of nonsense are you talking about? It is just the opposite, the strong ones rip off the weak and only Russia allows the weak to rip themselves off.
              Quote: bot.su
              If that (“what” in this context, the victory of your position suitcase-station-Europe), they will be happy to live at the expense of Europe or the states.

              Take off your pink glasses. Americanism is not in fashion, neither the USA nor Europe contain anyone, but very much the other way around - they tear off the floor of the world.
              Quote: bot.su
              But the station Europe is an idiot bust, excuse me for being straightforward.

              To give invaluable resources for beautiful eyes - this is too much, but for terrible ones - a full paragraph.
              1. nerd.su
                nerd.su 20 February 2017 23: 36
                0
                Quote: KaPToC
                Again everything rests on your independence!

                Whose is this yours?

                Quote: KaPToC
                so maybe he will sell his products somewhere else but not in Russia, but let him buy raw materials at world prices - if he is so independent.

                What then is the meaning of the union state? Almost for nothing, they allow us to keep two strategic military facilities, in principle, they are a military ally, moreover, motivated, and the best industrial facilities must also give raw materials at the same prices. how to buy balts? It was better to bargain when factories wanted to buy. However, some pressure on the Old Man also does not hurt, the main thing is not to overdo it.

                Quote: KaPToC
                It is just the opposite, the strong ones rip off the weak and only Russia allows the weak to rip themselves off.

                Quote: KaPToC
                Take off your pink glasses. Americanism is not in fashion, neither the USA nor Europe contain anyone, but very much the other way around - they tear off the floor of the world.

                What are you saying! Give examples, examples! About the budget of NATO, the European Union. About how much Europe and the US have written off debts to third countries. Go ahead with the numbers!
                1. KaPToC
                  KaPToC 21 February 2017 00: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: bot.su
                  What are you saying! Give examples, examples! About the budget of NATO, the European Union. About how much Europe and the US have written off debts to third countries. Go ahead with the numbers!

                  You should read books. About colonial empires, about modern methods of indirect taxation of other countries - for example, monetary taxation, credit, raw materials, read about the US external tax system. And it’s like I’m talking to a small and unreasonable little child, I don’t know how to put in a corner or to tear with a belt.
                  Quote: bot.su
                  They are almost for nothing that two strategic military facilities allow us to keep

                  It’s yours, it’s too expensive for us.
                  Quote: bot.su
                  What then is the meaning of the union state?

                  Exactly, it is necessary to stop this senseless alliance.
                  1. nerd.su
                    nerd.su 21 February 2017 12: 09
                    0
                    Quote: KaPToC
                    And it’s like I’m talking to a small and unreasonable little child, I don’t know how to put in a corner or to tear with a belt.

                    How smart and brave you are in the virtual world. laughing

                    Quote: KaPToC
                    You should read books. About colonial empires, about modern methods of indirect taxation of other countries - for example, monetary taxation, credit, raw materials, read about the US external tax system.

                    This is all liberal dregs. You give figures, facts, not conspiracy theories.
                    Here are some numbers for seed.
                    NATO has 28 member countries, and more than half of the military budget is contributed by the United States. And nothing, grumble that all members should increase their military spending to the norm, but without the exclamation of a suitcase-station-Russia. On the contrary, they are trying to recruit new allies.

                    In the budget of the European Union, Germany, France, Italy, the Netherlands have a negative balance, supporting Greece, Spain, Portugal and the Baltic-East European "tigers". Yes, sometimes they are indignant, but they do not drive the laggards, but on the contrary, they try to expand, even at the expense of Ukraine, they agree.

                    Quote: KaPToC
                    It’s yours, it’s too expensive for us.

                    Who is it for us? Is your surname Abromovich or Deripaska? It personally does not cost me much, Belarus is generally too small for Russia to cost much.

                    Quote: KaPToC
                    Exactly, it is necessary to stop this senseless alliance.

                    You are either a liberal "hero of the Dostoevsky novel" or an agent of imperialism. Russia cannot refuse allies, there are so few of them. Just dad on the press a little, so that was more accommodating and order.
                    1. KaPToC
                      KaPToC 21 February 2017 23: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: bot.su
                      This is all liberal dregs. You give figures, facts, not conspiracy theories.

                      1. nerd.su
                        nerd.su 22 February 2017 10: 02
                        0
                        You stubbornly ignore the facts. So this is your curly ass with a tail saying something about conspiracy theories there smile
                      2. makarick
                        makarick 22 February 2017 20: 13
                        0
                        Stupid picture. Let's imagine that they really sent everyone ... Belarus, Ukraine to NATO. In Kazakhstan, Nazarbayev is not eternal. What will happen after him is a big question. Well, we will send them too. And with whom else does Russia border? We’ll get the enemies not before the entrance. In front of the apartment itself. Oh yeah, don’t forget to send the Armenians. Here who adores Russians.
        5. Alikos
          Alikos 19 February 2017 04: 48
          +2
          Quote: vasek5533
          And what is wrong? There was a union state, there was no border, free bases, general air defense, production cooperation, equal energy prices. So no, they started yelling about enough to feed Belarus ... And now there is almost a border, trade is being curtailed, and we probably have to forget about the bases. And everyone will blame on the fact that Old Man is cunning ... and turned to the West. For that fought for it and ran.


          This is the work of the Zionists on both sides. Driving in wedges, set against each other and other pleasures ...
          Revenge for the fact that Lukashenko did not allow to plunder the country and destroy industry, as they did in Russia
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 18 February 2017 11: 54
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        One more brother ...


        Mmdyayaya, these "little brothers" behave strangely. Andrei Suzdaltsev conducted a disassembly of their behavior and was largely right:
        1. Catherine II
          Catherine II 18 February 2017 13: 06
          +11
          Quote: Lelek
          Mmdyayaya, these "little brothers" behave strangely. Andrei Suzdaltsev conducted a disassembly of their behavior and was largely right:

          In general, the Republic of Belarus is to blame for everything .... The Russian Federation in the matter of fuel supply is generally clean and pure.
          However, if you consider that the ATO with 2014 then

          Recall that at the end of September 2015 the Federal Service for Technical and Export Control of the Russian Federation issued a decree restricting the export of gasoline and diesel fuel to Ukraine. However, some Russian traders still found a loophole for delivering fuel to Ukraine through neighboring Belarus. There, the Russian resource becomes diesel export fuel (TDE) with a new passport, where the Republic of Belarus is indicated in the "Country of Origin" column. Energo Oil and Interservice became the senders of this oil product to Ukraine. In November-December, they shipped about 44,5 thousand tons of TDE to domestic traders.
          Market participants agree that if it were not for the ban on the part of the Russian authorities, Russian diesel would have won even more positions. Additional volumes could displace the Belarusian resource from the Left-Bank Ukraine, especially from the eastern and central regions.

          So, if in January-September volumes of diesel fuel imports from Russia averaged around 110 thousand tons, then after the ban they fell to 31 thousand tons in November, and in December amounted to only 400 tons.
          Note that the growth in volumes from the Russian Federation occurred against the background of reorientation of flows. “Russian suppliers play on the market conditions, offering Ukrainians lower prices than their main competitors, Belarusians,” the traders say.
          And by the way
          The State Statistics Service does not fully take into account the use of fuel by the Ministry of Defense, which, in connection with the events in the Donbass, increased its consumption significantly. For example, the T-64 BM Bulat tank eats about 160 – 200 liters of diesel fuel per hour of operation. Second: as traders assure, the new 2016 year was met with a significant stock of diesel fuel at oil depots. Some market players note that with a volatile rate, they tried to quickly convert the depreciated hryvnia into a commodity, which led to a glut of fuel in the market.
          Summarizing
          In the first half of 2015, they occupied almost 30% of the DT market, moving mainly the Slavic competitor. There could have been more, but Moscow in September actually banned the export of diesel fuel to Ukraine, recognizing it as a “dual-use product” (tanks and other military equipment have been working on diesel since World War II).

          In 2016, the situation changed again. Deliveries from the Russian Federation are cheaper. Lazeki allow you to quickly increase the volume through the railway and ports of Ukraine. Of course, this will be a painful and double blow to the positions of Belarusians: in addition to reducing the volume of supplies, it will be necessary to abandon considerable margins operating in the direction of Ukraine.
          The Ukrainian oil market is where the interests of exporters from Russia and Belarus converge. How beneficial is it to blame the Republic of Belarus for what we do ourselves? At the same time, beat out a share of Belarus.
          1. Dr. Sorge
            Dr. Sorge 18 February 2017 17: 37
            +4
            This analysis will not suit the Belorussophobes :) It is clear that, whatever one may say, Old Man is to blame. :)
            Thank you for your analytical material.
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 18 February 2017 18: 48
            +1
            Quote: Catherine II
            Catherine II


            Thanks for the analysis. In no case do not condone our Russian sharks, who find "en route through candibubel" enrichment in violation of government regulations, but this is already an object for the Prosecutor General. yes
        2. Alikos
          Alikos 19 February 2017 04: 51
          +1
          Quote: Lelek
          Quote: Finches
          One more brother ...


          Mmdyayaya, these "little brothers" behave strangely. Andrei Suzdaltsev conducted a disassembly of their behavior and was largely right:


          Do not judge by yourself!
          Well, what kind of Jews are provocateurs ...
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 19 February 2017 10: 31
            0
            Quote: Alikos
            Do not judge by yourself! Well, what kind of Jews are provocateurs ...


            "... And I - a simple Russian" Russian "- not a communist and not even a Jew ..." (according to Osip Mandelstam). If you are so bothered by Honduras, scratch the mu-mu counterclockwise. bully
    3. user
      user 18 February 2017 20: 37
      0
      Now Moldova wants to be neutral.


      This is the only opportunity to move away from Romania, the EU and NATO without conflict; otherwise, nothing shines.
  2. Olgovich
    Olgovich 18 February 2017 06: 22
    +6
    However, it is important to remember that the security issues of the country should be viewed not only through the economic lens and the existing differences - the presence of allies and their support cost much more.

    Yes, you may have to pay more for the bases, but you need to do this.
  3. Private61
    Private61 18 February 2017 06: 25
    +8
    Quote: Olgovich
    However, it is important to remember that the security issues of the country should be viewed not only through the economic lens and the existing differences - the presence of allies and their support cost much more.

    Yes, you may have to pay more for the bases, but you need to do this.
    But then the armament of Rygorich at world prices for ** Baku rubles **. am
    1. populist
      populist 18 February 2017 08: 17
      +4
      Private61
      But then the armament of Rygoritch at world prices for ** Baku rubles **

      He has 40 billion debt and the economy is in crisis! What are the dollars? Where from? But modern weapons cannot be supplied, especially the Air Force and Air Defense, remembering the experience of Ukraine.
      1. Lex.
        Lex. 18 February 2017 08: 38
        +2
        Actually 13 is inappropriately attributed
        1. populist
          populist 18 February 2017 10: 42
          +2
          Lex.
          Actually 13 is inappropriately attributed

          And 27bn (40-13) is not superfluous. These are debts of state enterprises. fellow request
        2. atakan
          atakan 18 February 2017 13: 17
          +2
          Lex.
          In general, they thought up yours for us)).
          Let’s disintegrate. They pushed the fictitious republics into an empire, crushed everything.
    2. Alikos
      Alikos 19 February 2017 04: 54
      +2
      Quote: Private61
      Quote: Olgovich
      However, it is important to remember that the security issues of the country should be viewed not only through the economic lens and the existing differences - the presence of allies and their support cost much more.

      Yes, you may have to pay more for the bases, but you need to do this.
      But then the armament of Rygorich at world prices for ** Baku rubles **. am


      Not ashamed?
      Remember the Great Patriotic and Belarusian people ...
  4. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 18 February 2017 06: 35
    +9
    If someone by the name of Lukashenko continues to pursue such an obviously pro-Western policy, then we will have to urgently withdraw all military facilities from there. I’ll just remind you that in the still occupied Ukrainian Crimea, the Russian military could not get to their duty stations because of the show-off of Ukrainian authorities. Such things are not far off in Belarus.
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 18 February 2017 08: 40
      +5
      You are delirious, maybe a cookie and blackmail Russia to the west, he will not go, the opposition will sweep him away and he will not go to Rostov at best, but to the Hague he is a stranger to the west
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 18 February 2017 10: 33
        +3
        Normal bargaining. How is it on the market - how expensive is it to sell yourself? And there, whatever happens ............
        But, the buyer in the market chooses the goods himself. laughing
    2. vasek5533
      vasek5533 18 February 2017 09: 46
      +8
      This is the result of the policy of the Russian Federation. Well, it’s not possible to blame everything on the dad, like he’s the only one to blame, and we are all in white.
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 18 February 2017 10: 49
        +4
        Of course. And we are to blame for not stopping this behavior before
        1. Dr. Sorge
          Dr. Sorge 18 February 2017 17: 40
          +3
          The fact of the matter is that the liberoid top + oligarchs at this point in time very well played the American map.
          1. Kenneth
            Kenneth 18 February 2017 18: 38
            0
            There are almost no liberals in the government now. Liberals with might and main fed dad
            1. Dr. Sorge
              Dr. Sorge 18 February 2017 21: 02
              +1
              And what, the oligarchs do not affect in any way? Do not make me laugh.
              1. KaPToC
                KaPToC 18 February 2017 23: 37
                0
                Quote: Dr. Sorge
                And what, the oligarchs do not affect in any way? Do not make me laugh.

                Security forces rule Russia.
                1. Alikos
                  Alikos 20 February 2017 05: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: KaPToC
                  Quote: Dr. Sorge
                  And what, the oligarchs do not affect in any way? Do not make me laugh.

                  Security forces rule Russia.

                  Of course! Only for some reason, one "god-chosen" breed
    3. Alikos
      Alikos 19 February 2017 04: 58
      +1
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      If someone by the name of Lukashenko continues to pursue such an obviously pro-Western policy, then we will have to urgently withdraw all military facilities from there. I’ll just remind you that in the still occupied Ukrainian Crimea, the Russian military could not get to their duty stations because of the show-off of Ukrainian authorities. Such things are not far off in Belarus.


      If the "God-chosen" come to power instead of Lukashenko, then it will be so ...
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 February 2017 06: 50
    +8
    Is there a future for Russian military facilities in Belarus?

    But this is a question from the questions. Everything will become clear when the president of Belarus takes a clear position on this issue. In the meantime, solid blackmail and backstage bargaining.
  6. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 18 February 2017 06: 55
    +7
    Quote: 210ox
    There are too many emotions and froths now, especially the inflated media

    There is a reason. Lukashenko is too impulsive comrade. Recent speeches and affairs are alarming. Again, if not on a friendly foot, Poroshenko is neutral in any case. Do we need this ??????
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 18 February 2017 17: 46
      +4
      Well, well, did you hear at least the one-pointed exclusion from the Kremlin towards Kiev? Partners are called. Business there oh what so far. Well, what do you say? By the way, Gazprom in Belarus very often even speaks out for local oppov. Here is the alignment.
      Let's objectively say what they want to destroy the Russian world. We will not give enemies such joy.
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 February 2017 07: 30
    +3
    Of course, there is still a lot of time, on the one hand, and on the other, you need to play it safe and think about how to drag stations to yourself (or put new ones on your territory ...
  8. bald
    bald 18 February 2017 07: 57
    +6
    You must definitely look for an alternative. Under the current government of Belarus, there is no faith (and it is not known who will be in the future). The same radar, for example, can be installed; in Crimea, Novorossia (everything will be improved there), the Kaliningrad region, well, our western North, and why not put a hospital directly in the Atlantic (like oil wells), and in the Balkans (common sense will come there), Syria, North Africa In short, there are many more similar places. Belarus is a slippery and cunning partner (established oneself).
    1. vasek5533
      vasek5533 18 February 2017 09: 53
      +3
      The bases were free, but no one was indignant in the Republic of Belarus, the Allies thought ... Calculate how much the radars you listed will cost, and then remember what kind of cents a quarrel with the Old Man.
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 18 February 2017 12: 06
        +2
        Free only cheese .. in a mousetrap! laughing
  9. Charond
    Charond 18 February 2017 09: 05
    +1
    I do not think that Russia needs to invest in military bases outside the borders of the Russian Federation. All this is very unreliable and unsteady, especially since the former republics of the USSR do not harbor love for Russia.
    1. Niccola Mack
      Niccola Mack 18 February 2017 09: 51
      +1
      They don’t feed love - but everyone needs money !!!
      And to build new ones is expensive and the location will not be so good. Lukashenko picks on how red the girl for marriageable age is and will again cooperate.
      In the West, no one is waiting for him!
      1. Charond
        Charond 18 February 2017 09: 54
        +4
        How many wolves do not feed, he still looks into the forest ... Better on his land, it is cheaper and more reliable than depending on the whims of greedy foreigners who do not like Russia.
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  10. Altona
    Altona 18 February 2017 09: 18
    +1
    Quote: Lex.
    You are delirious, maybe a cookie and blackmail Russia to the west, he will not go, the opposition will sweep him away and he will not go to Rostov at best, but to the Hague he is a stranger to the west

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    You still need to get to Rostov. Smolensk is much closer. Three hours at most by car. wink
  11. Kenneth
    Kenneth 18 February 2017 10: 28
    +3
    For the base you have to pay. And for oil. Or the Belarusian Federal District.
  12. To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 18 February 2017 10: 52
    +3
    An agreement on the operation of 102 military bases was concluded for a period of 25 years, and was extended for another 49 years (until 2044) during the visit of Russian President Dmitry A. Medvedev to Armenia in 2010.
  13. Old26
    Old26 18 February 2017 11: 42
    +3
    Quote: bald
    The same radar, for example, can be installed; in Crimea

    Worth it. "Dnieper". Now undergoing modernization

    Quote: bald
    in New Russia (everything will be improved there).

    But what for is it needed there?

    Quote: bald
    in the Kaliningrad region

    It has been several years

    Quote: bald
    well, our western north

    Long standing. In addition, one is under construction, the second will begin this year.

    It seems that the last 5 years you have safely rested in a dream ...

    Quote: bald
    why not put a hospital right in the Atlantic

    And who will be involved in the protection and defense of this facility?

    Quote: bald
    and in the Balkans (common sense will come there too)

    Nafig nafig. They have enough common sense only to water their former allies. In general, it is extremely original to put your strategic missile defense radar in the territory of the NATO country

    Quote: bald
    Syria, North Africa, in short, many more similar places ..

    Money nowhere to go. Yes, and the brains of those who give the green light to the installation of such radars in certain places fortunately exist
  14. Altona
    Altona 18 February 2017 12: 59
    +2
    Quote: vasek5533
    The bases were free, but no one was indignant in the Republic of Belarus, the Allies thought ... Calculate how much the radars you listed will cost, and then remember what kind of cents a quarrel with the Old Man.

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    And you will not be in the bastard for a penny "go to Europe"? Where of course they will appreciate your great naivety and willingness to work for a new owner. Moreover, young blacks and Arabs will be thrown at you so that your women will not be bored.
    1. vasek5533
      vasek5533 18 February 2017 16: 31
      +2
      The very possibility of such a future, as you wrote, arose because of the stupid policy of the Russian Federation, when one (Putin + military) is building something like an alliance with a neighbor, and the second (Medvedev + liberalists) is trying to squeeze a couple bucks from that neighbor. The people are surprised that we are not together until now, but they explain to him from all the irons that Lukashenko is to blame.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 19 February 2017 00: 05
        +1
        Quote: vasek5533
        The very possibility of such a future, as you wrote, arose because of the stupid policy of the Russian Federation, when one (Putin + military) is building something like an alliance with a neighbor, and the second (Medvedev + liberalists) is trying to squeeze a couple bucks from that neighbor.

        The union should be beneficial to both, and not just Belarus.
  15. Catherine II
    Catherine II 18 February 2017 13: 20
    +11
    Harassment of Belarus in the media of the Russian Federation continues. However, the world of capitalism and the dependence of the media "on the line of the party."
    The trouble is that the media force many to pour emotions towards the last ally (whatever he is), for each representative of the Republic of Belarus. For several years the technology has been worked out in Ukraine, now it is successfully applied to Belarus.
    After that, we will remain in splendid isolation (with the “2 allies-army and navy”) surrounded by a “clipboard” of former allies / current opponents. Influences are reduced to a minimum; the Russian Federation cannot even become a regional leader.
    But "we will not feed anyone." We will not trade normally either, a politician.
    Good technology, even some regions of the Russian Federation can stop feeding it (except for the "chosen ones")
    1. Starik72
      Starik72 18 February 2017 13: 50
      +2
      I agree with you Catherine 2 !!! The Russians stopped moving their brains, they replaced their brains with money, although they openly told them NO MONEY, BUT YOU HOLD.
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 18 February 2017 14: 33
        +7
        Fine . Ukraine agreed with Belarus that the Russians are stupid. It's good that you were so smart there. If anything happens, ask someone how to live.
        1. Alikos
          Alikos 19 February 2017 05: 07
          +1
          Quote: Kenneth
          Fine . Ukraine agreed with Belarus that the Russians are stupid. It's good that you were so smart there. If anything happens, ask someone how to live.


          Well, of course! The smartest are you Jews! It is only necessary to listen to you and only to plant yours in the manual (on your neck) ... As you already got!
    2. Kenneth
      Kenneth 18 February 2017 13: 50
      +4
      As the sad experience showed, even enhanced feeding did not make allies from the Republic of Belarus and the Republic of Uzbekistan. Better to spend on the army and navy. They are more reliable.
    3. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 18 February 2017 17: 56
      +3
      This has been worked out for a long time, about not feeding some regions of Russia.
      I'm afraid you are not heard here. The main thing is that finally there was someone to whom everything can be merged :)
      The Kaliningrad region is already over there.
      Terrible consequences are coming if the Cabinet is further liberoid.
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 18 February 2017 18: 41
        +3
        That's when the Republic of Belarus will become a region of Russia and Luke director of the farm, then we will discuss
        1. Alikos
          Alikos 19 February 2017 05: 11
          +1
          Quote: Kenneth
          That's when the Republic of Belarus will become a region of Russia and Luke director of the farm, then we will discuss


          Yeah, and the head of the "Belarusian region" you sleep and see some sort of Pinhus Abramovich Mordechai?
          Right Lukas does that does not allow you to control ...
  16. Starik72
    Starik72 18 February 2017 13: 39
    +5
    I read komenty and was surprised. Lukashenka is to blame for everything. And the Russian leadership is honest, fair, not corrupt, well, in general, white and fluffy. Once again I remind you, look at yourself in the mirror, and think to whom it is beneficial to lash the Belarusians with the Russians. In the West, PUTIN is to blame for everything, and you have the Russians to blame for everything Lukashenko.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 18 February 2017 13: 57
      +7
      Maybe I will surprise you, but I think these people are not the culprits of all the troubles. And everyone who participated in the picnic in Belovezhskaya Pushcha. And one more insignificance, living now, - Mr. Gorbachev.
      I don’t know when, but the real unification will take place. And not only with Belarus. But only within the framework of one state, which was the USSR. And which was broken up against the will of the Soviet people.
      1. Starik72
        Starik72 18 February 2017 14: 35
        +2
        I agree with you. A reserve officer for all 100 or even 1000%, but this will not happen soon.
      2. Dr. Sorge
        Dr. Sorge 18 February 2017 17: 59
        +2
        You are absolutely right!
        And the consequences of the Mihserv catastrophe must be destroyed.
        Contrary to reason and pit us now.
    2. krops777
      krops777 18 February 2017 14: 35
      +7
      I read komenty and was surprised. Lukashenko is to blame for everything. And the leadership of Russia is honest, fair, not corrupt, well, generally white and fluffy

      In any case, I have never heard from Putin any derogatory remarks addressed to Belarus and their president, but I regularly skip from Luka, it is clear that Luka wants preferences for this and that, but what kind of friendship this is, I just want to say: Friend, change the tone .
      1. Dr. Sorge
        Dr. Sorge 18 February 2017 18: 02
        +3
        And what offended you the phrase AHL that he would not allow a stone to be thrown into Russia?
        Or are you talking about Dunkvert? So read about his meat business, and a lot will be clarified :)
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 19 February 2017 00: 19
          +1
          Quote: Dr. Sorge
          And what offended you the phrase AHL that he would not allow a stone to be thrown into Russia?

          You, like that hero of a comedy, I remember here, but I don't remember here.
      2. Alikos
        Alikos 19 February 2017 05: 15
        +3
        Quote: krops777
        I read komenty and was surprised. Lukashenko is to blame for everything. And the leadership of Russia is honest, fair, not corrupt, well, generally white and fluffy

        In any case, I have never heard from Putin any derogatory remarks addressed to Belarus and their president, but I regularly skip from Luka, it is clear that Luka wants preferences for this and that, but what kind of friendship this is, I just want to say: Friend, change the tone .


        But Putin’s entire entourage is breathing poison and pouring help in the desire to remove Lukashenko
    3. Alikos
      Alikos 19 February 2017 05: 13
      +2
      Quote: Starik72
      I read komenty and was surprised. Lukashenka is to blame for everything. And the Russian leadership is honest, fair, not corrupt, well, in general, white and fluffy. Once again I remind you, look at yourself in the mirror, and think to whom it is beneficial to lash the Belarusians with the Russians. In the West, PUTIN is to blame for everything, and you have the Russians to blame for everything Lukashenko.


      Old man, this is all the pro-Israeli Zionist policy in the leadership of Moscow. This is their job
  17. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 18 February 2017 17: 06
    +4
    Here, many persecutors of the Old Man divorced, I was on duty for the part (1996) in one of the Strategic Missile Forces (when Russia had already signed an agreement on the withdrawal of Strategic Missile Forces from the European part and everyone was preparing for the next six months to disband, dismiss or send to the territory of Russia ) near Lida where Lukashenko literally flew from Minsk (by an escort in several cars), (although we didn’t obey the authorities of Belarus) Lukashenko personally met with the command of the unit and in conversation with the officers was very sad about the withdrawal of the Strategic Missile Forces divisions, he said that it was in vain these missiles are being launched, but he can’t do anything, because international agreement and also signed. By the way, the persecutors of Lukashenko - he (Shushkevich) did not sign documents on the withdrawal of the Strategic Missile Forces (Russia so decided, because her missiles). But Lukashenko, although the former chairman of the collective farm in those days, he imagined what kind of power it was and why it was on the western borders of the once Great Country. Yes, 20 years have passed since then, but read the press - in February 2017, the US Congress voted on the deployment of cruise nuclear missiles in Poland, the circle closed. The Americans removed Russian nuclear missiles from Belarus, and after 20 years they set up theirs in Poland, and then another 20 years later, the turn will reach Ukraine, Georgia and the southern underbelly of Russia. So do not be on the Old Man.
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 18 February 2017 18: 04
      +2
      Apparently someone said that it was necessary and away we go.
      And is it possible to put in one rank some phetsky apples that someone is pulling to Russia, I think that the recipients did not mind, and the security of the countries.
  18. Belarus is Russia
    Belarus is Russia 19 February 2017 17: 05
    +5
    So far, Belarus will be a separate state from Russia — Russia has no future in Belarus. Because Belarus in this case is not Russia, but a separate, sovereign state. And it does not obey the president of Russia.
    In order for the Russian military facilities in Belarus-Belarus to have some future, for this, it is necessary to become part of Russia, to become Russia.
  19. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 20 February 2017 04: 30
    +1
    Friendship is friendship, and tobacco apart - everything has to be paid for, because barter breeds speculation and even more disagreement.
  20. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 20 February 2017 18: 18
    +1
    there will be no Russian objects, there will be German