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Tillerson reported on the conditions of the United States to begin military cooperation with the Russian Federation on Syria

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US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, for whom, as it became known, there was no room in the Bonn hotel, during the summit of the G20 foreign ministers made a statement regarding the possibility of military interaction with Russia in Syria. According to Tillerson, such interaction will not be possible as long as Russia believes that the entire Syrian opposition is terrorists.


Rex Tillerson's statement publishes Rider, citing a source in diplomatic circles.

Recall that the day before, the first meeting of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov with his American counterpart from the administration of the new US President Donald Trump took place.

There are reports that, according to the United States, Russia should recognize as the "democratic opposition" of Syria those groups that have not been declared terrorists at the level of the UN Security Council.

At the same time, the essence of the claims against Moscow remains unclear. Considering the fact that Russia initiated the negotiation process in Astana between the Syrian official authorities and representatives of 12 opposition groups, including the armed ones, what other recognition of these groups is required from Russia? ..

Tillerson reported on the conditions of the United States to begin military cooperation with the Russian Federation on Syria


Tillerson will probably concretize his position in the near future.

Earlier, US President Trump said that if Russia is fighting terrorism, it would be strange not to establish contacts with the Russian Federation aimed at jointly fighting the same ISIS (prohibited in the Russian Federation).
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  1. Skeptic Self-Taught
    Skeptic Self-Taught 17 February 2017 15: 30
    +10
    So the USA is going through the forest
    1. Political department
      Political department 17 February 2017 15: 42
      +7
      In general, Rex is again about nothing and vague .. We continue to wet!
      1. cniza
        cniza 17 February 2017 16: 32
        +6
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        So the USA is going through the forest


        And at the pace of the waltz ... the auction is going on and we don't know what yet.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 17 February 2017 18: 02
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          And at the pace of the waltz ... the auction is going on and we don't know what yet.

          Yes, until the GDP is negotiated with Trump face to face, everything will be so - conditions, proposals, threats and concerns.
          1. DMB_95
            DMB_95 17 February 2017 18: 35
            +2
            Quote: Nyrobsky

            Yes, until the GDP is negotiated with Trump face to face, everything will be so - conditions, proposals, threats and concerns.

            Lavrov and Tillerson will meet more than once before the meeting of the Presidents. The next round of the Great Game begins after the change of scenery in the States.
        2. Titsen
          Titsen 18 February 2017 08: 02
          0
          Quote: cniza
          And at the pace of the waltz ... the auction is going on and we don't know what yet.


          One gets the impression that not only we are participants in the VO, but Lavrov also does not know: the new mattress administration rushes from corner to corner and changes the rules of the game at every step!

          It looks like it's hard for Trump in the place of the president ...
      2. Scoun
        Scoun 17 February 2017 17: 01
        +1
        Quote: Political Department
        In general, Rex is again about nothing and vague .. We continue to wet!

        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        So the USA is going through the forest

        Guys, I think you are burning! ))) as well as article)))
        There are reports that, according to the United States, Russia should recognize the "democratic opposition" of Syria those groups who are not declared terrorists at the level of the UN Security Council.
        At the same time, the essence of the claims against Moscow remains unclear..

        Mlyn, in order to portray the Kremlin's concession somewhere, you must first find it and now those groups that are already participating in the negotiations, but in fact do not voice their names, Russia will agree with the "arguments" of the United States and declare that it recognizes them as opposition and you can start the Middle East dialogue ...
        Thus, the United States retains its face and opens up an opportunity for real dialogue on other issues as well.
        It's just that this option with Syria, a situation in which many citizens of the world support the actions of Russia, can serve as a damper and soften the general last heat of passions on the part of the Pin.dos media, including.
        PS.
        Russia has already connected a bunch of such groups to the negotiations, and some of those who were released from Aleppo may compromise in such situations. This applies only to local people, there will be one conversation with newcomers.
        The common people are not at all stupid.
        At the same time, the statements are so absurd that the Europeans themselves laugh at them.

        So it is, I communicate with people from France and Germany, they laugh. And that, the order was received and paid.

        Thus, propaganda, for which a lot of money is spent, has a fundamentally opposite effect, banal because of its absurdity. The grotesque image of Russia in an adequate part of the European society causes only healthy laughter.
        http://politobzor.net/show-123097-zhiteli-evropy-
        postavili-merkel-na-mesto-russkie-nashi-bratya-i-
        tochka.html
      3. Monos
        Monos 17 February 2017 17: 36
        +3
        Deja vu. A persistent feeling that I have already heard this. Recently. Tillerson is Kerry in makeup?
    2. rasputin17
      rasputin17 17 February 2017 15: 47
      +2
      They're coming! Yes, that's just shit where you don't get us !! am
      1. Skeptic Self-Taught
        Skeptic Self-Taught 17 February 2017 15: 49
        +1
        How do you imagine the situation?
        Here are all the non-persistent media trumpeting about Syria and suddenly bang-tibidoh-tibids - the chief peacemaker was not invited to Astana ...
        Well, they'll screw up some more ... There are Turks besides us. Iran.
        Yes, and Europe is now - elections on the nose
        In the forest. definitely to the forest
        1. rasputin17
          rasputin17 17 February 2017 16: 01
          +2
          Just a variant of "a good mine with a bad game" they will play for a very long time because the whole situation is the fruit of their exclusive policy !!
          Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
          the main peacemaker was not even invited to Astana ..

          They point him to his place at the bucket!
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 17 February 2017 16: 33
            +4
            Take your time, friends. Tirex is not a professional diplomat. An indicative photo, I must say. Lavrov with the whole team and Tirex with the ambassador and translator.
            It is the United States that needs a result for Trump's hundred days, and indeed show its "abilities" - the Kremlin may not strain - we are waiting for the initiatives of Trump and Co. .. In the entire external "agenda" the Russian Federation has an initiative. They even need Moscow to safely withdraw their troops from Afghanistan. In Syria, no matter what they say, the Russian Federation is legally. Iran and the DPRK - it is impossible to decide something without the mediation of the Russian Federation (Koreans and Iranians will not even sit down at the negotiating table without Russia). Ukraine and the Baltics are economic, black holes (without the problems of Crimea and Donbass). Libya even. Rearmament - let them look at the CFE Treaty and who violated it (RF, RB, RK have complied with). START - let them look at the ABM Treaty.
            It was not for nothing that the negotiations took place behind closed doors. Obama's old policy cards are beaten - Trump and Tirex need to change it. So what kind of bargaining can there be? Ukraine for Syria is nonsense, and here and there the Russian Federation has reinforced concrete and logically verified actions. Therefore, let them rack their brains in the west. hi
            The "southern front of the opposition," the border with Jordan, has arrived in Astana.
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 17 February 2017 16: 18
      +10
      according to the United States, Russia should recognize as the "democratic opposition" of Syria those groups that have not been declared terrorists at the level of the UN Security Council.

      The monkey climbed back onto the palm tree, but his work lives on. wink Does anyone else believe that Trump is a friend of Russia?
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 17 February 2017 16: 24
        +7
        Quote: vovanpain
        The monkey climbed back onto the palm tree, but his work lives on. wink Does anyone else believe that Trump is a friend of Russia?

        I'm not sure if there are any. Well, if there is at least one such - well, blessed is the believer ...
        1. Skeptic Self-Taught
          Skeptic Self-Taught 17 February 2017 16: 26
          +5
          So our whole thought was drinking a booze for his victory ...
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 17 February 2017 16: 27
            +6
            Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
            So our whole thought was drinking a booze for his victory ...

            Well, how can you miss such an excuse to get drunk? drinks wink laughing
  2. Altona
    Altona 17 February 2017 15: 33
    +11
    On a cola, start over. It was not Trump who "drained" the swamp, but the swamp is confidently sucking in Trump. Everything is back on a globalist track. So America is for liberals again.
    1. ser-pov
      ser-pov 17 February 2017 15: 40
      +1
      [/ quote] There are reports that, according to the United States, Russia should recognize as the "democratic opposition" of Syria those groups that are not declared terrorists at the level of the UN Security Council. [quote]

      Immediately it is clearly written, "information is coming in ...." That is, once again, the journalists for all belay decided everything ...
      1. dorz
        dorz 17 February 2017 15: 46
        +1
        Tillerson reported on US conditions

        Meanwhile, they themselves continue, without any permission, to build military bases on the territory of Syria.
    2. rasputin17
      rasputin17 17 February 2017 15: 45
      0
      Quote: Altona
      It was not Trump who "drained" the swamp, but the swamp is confidently sucking in Trump.

      He has no choice !!! It's time to take off your masks !!! And this parsley will play its role in this performance where directors have been creative lately! Either a senile old man will be put on a monkey at all! Now it's Trump's turn !!! wink
  3. ronnon
    ronnon 17 February 2017 15: 40
    +2
    Eh, Rexi! Soon they will be talking about him "Do you know that Rex? What Rex? Well, that one who did not have enough room in the hotel! And this Rex! Of course I know!" )))
  4. MoJloT
    MoJloT 17 February 2017 15: 41
    +2
    Tricky, until the Russians separate the opposition from the terrorists ... and where I've heard that before.
    1. Political department
      Political department 17 February 2017 17: 21
      +2
      Quote: MoJloT
      Tricky, until the Russians separate the opposition from the terrorists ... and where I've heard that before.

      Everything is as usual ... They are waiting for us to soak the devils, and then the cream will be skimmed!
  5. rasputin17
    rasputin17 17 February 2017 15: 41
    +4
    Russia believes that the entire Syrian opposition is terrorists.

    Gentlemen !!! Learn to call THINGS BY THEIR NAMES !!!! And who are they then? Where in what conventions it is written that the opposition and the moderates can cut the heads of old people and children in their protest !!! am How to call the massacre of the civilian population DEMOCRACY?
  6. Svarog51
    Svarog51 17 February 2017 15: 44
    +10
    Again, some conditions are being put forward. It seems to me that the only thing that is unconditional for them is power over the rest of the world. fool
  7. dubowitskij.vick
    dubowitskij.vick 17 February 2017 15: 45
    +1
    In Manhattan there is still a sufficient number of tower buildings. There are still enough teaching aids, carefully showing the idiots from politics, who is a terrorist, and who is just an oppositionist, a terrorist.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 February 2017 15: 45
    +3
    In general, Trump turned out to be a lightweight chatterbox, a showman from the Miss Universe pageant. With a very superficial understanding of what and how is really happening in the world. Perfectly. This is American Gorbach. Now he will spin perestroika, and for a long time descendants will collect the wreckage of the country in a heap. wassat
  9. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 17 February 2017 15: 57
    +3
    Tillerson reported on the conditions of the United States to begin military cooperation with the Russian Federation on Syria
    Are they going to set conditions for us, or are they doing us such a favor ??? We twisted and twisted such cooperation ...
  10. Makarov
    Makarov 17 February 2017 16: 10
    0
    I told you that they came to set conditions ...
  11. volodya
    volodya 17 February 2017 16: 10
    0
    Do we need their terms? They know how to bomb only tractors and weddings!
  12. karakol
    karakol 17 February 2017 16: 20
    0
    It seems that nothing has essentially changed after the change of administration in Washington. They are all in prostration.
  13. Berber
    Berber 17 February 2017 16: 31
    0
    It seems that they have not decided - "what's next"? How to behave with Russia? I can say one thing, if they do not cooperate with us, they have no prospects. They used those bonuses that the control of world finances gave them. Further, having no real production, and continuing the confrontation with Russia, it will be worse. In addition to external problems, there will also be internal ones.
  14. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 17 February 2017 16: 40
    0
    That the black man drove a blizzard, that the billionaire crap whipping - in short, in power, and their team is the same
  15. Nick888
    Nick888 17 February 2017 16: 49
    0
    Russia should recognize Syria as a "democratic opposition"

    Why not recognize the United States then, and the DPR and LPR?
    1. Political department
      Political department 17 February 2017 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: Nick888
      Russia should recognize Syria as a "democratic opposition"

      Why not recognize the United States then, and the DPR and LPR?

      In no case ... we will treat Ukraine ourselves and all! It's a matter of principle ... negative
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 17 February 2017 17: 37
    +1
    There are reports that, according to the United States, Russia should recognize as the "democratic opposition" of Syria those groups that have not been declared terrorists at the level of the UN Security Council.

    Well done Americans, there is always a second bottom in their statement!
    As soon as ours sign this agreement, all terrorist organizations will immediately change their name and sit at the negotiating table as representatives of the peaceful opposition, and the Americans will also point out to ours that the agreement is not being fulfilled.
  17. Orionvit
    Orionvit 17 February 2017 17: 41
    +1
    Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
    I'm not sure if there are any. Well, if there is at least one such - well, blessed is the believer

    Two months ago, here at VO, there were a large part of such believers in "Trump's Messiah". Something quickly everyone became atheists. It will be necessary next time not to forget, to note the time of changing shoes, some of the forum participants. Maybe someone will set a record for the rate of change of his "iron and correct" point of view.
  18. Kent0001
    Kent0001 17 February 2017 17: 52
    0
    He is a huckster, not a diplomat. He is the talking head of the State Department. And no more. And let them set the conditions for their wives.
  19. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 17 February 2017 18: 08
    0
    Putin, Patrushev, instruct to create an information warfare regiment, and in half a year the United States will have such a Maidan, which they cannot even imagine in "Hollywood". We have been looking with our mouths open for too long at this cloaca of swindlers, fraudsters, and simply international criminals who hide behind the monopoly of their dollar. But we can destroy this within a month or two by active propaganda in the world - a COMPLETE REFUSAL OF THE DOLLAR as a means of feeding terrorists of all stripes. By showing the whole world that it is the DOLLAR ZONE - THERE IS A ZONE OF THE MAIDAN AND TERRORISM. In addition, through the blogs and forums of the United States itself, we can initiate such a Maidan there, which will surpass both the October Revolution of 1917 and the Kiev "RAGULUTSIU GIDOTI". It is in the USA that there are so many social, ethnic, religious, interracial, gender issues and oppression that will be enough for the whole world. You just need to create one or two regiments of information warfare specialists and start working for the result. Through their own sites and forums. Why there are as many as THREE such regiments in China, and not a single one in our country !!!
  20. jovanni
    jovanni 17 February 2017 18: 13
    0
    Tillerson reported on the conditions of the United States to begin military cooperation with the Russian Federation on Syria

    And what will be the conditions for Russia to start military cooperation in Syria? I suspect this will be a wish not to meddle with the trajectory of ammunition ...
    In general, this Till spits according to the old training manuals ...
  21. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 17 February 2017 18: 39
    0
    It looks like the number of terrorist groups "opposition" should be consistently reduced to such a number that there are no discrepancies between the SGA and the Russian Federation! bully
  22. Operator
    Operator 17 February 2017 19: 45
    0
    The most important news is that Germany (Bonn) hosts a meeting of the foreign ministers of the following 20 states:
    Russia, USA, China, Germany, Saudi Arabia,
    as well as Australia, Argentina, Brazil, United Kingdom, India, Indonesia, Italy, Canada, China, Mexico, Turkey, France, South Korea, South Africa, Japan and the European Union.
  23. Altona
    Altona 17 February 2017 20: 18
    0
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    I'm not sure if there are any. Well, if there is at least one such - well, blessed is the believer ..

    ------------------------------------
    So stop guys. In general, on November 18, the choice was between a nuclear war and the loss of world leadership by the United States. For me, let them be engaged in rituals around sanctions and other nonsense, only let the vigorous suitcase not be touched. In general, Trump wanted to deal with the United States, apparently he didn't want to ...
  24. sailor52
    sailor52 17 February 2017 23: 30
    0
    Tramp and his team, or what is called a team, for at least another half a year will fight the legacy of professional politicians like the Clintons and Obama.

    Psaki advised the Trump team to "carefully verify the facts"
    Former White House communications director Jen Psaki said that the team of US President Donald Trump, which communicates with the media, should abandon lies and carefully check the facts before conveying information to the public.
    In an interview with CNN, she said that the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, and presidential adviser Kelliann Conway could change the negative opinion that they had among the representatives of the American media if they followed a series of tips. So, she advised “stop lying,” since they speak on behalf of the United States. “If you have no data or answer, just say so,” the word TASS transmits.
    Also, Psaki said that it was necessary to “verify the facts” before they were announced and, in general, change the strategy of speeches on TV, not trying to “copy the behavior of Donald Trump” when dealing with the press.
    “He (Trump) may shout at reporters and blame people for folly and lies, but that doesn’t mean that you need to use this behavior as a model,” she said.
    She urged again to organize regular briefings at the State Department to convey the position to "dozens of key countries, partners, allies and even opponents around the world."


    http://www.vz.ru/news/2017/2/17/858547.html
  25. Stormsk
    Stormsk 17 February 2017 23: 41
    0
    What was required to prove, Trump's words differ from deeds, he will not even try to improve relations with Russia, otherwise he will be slammed by his own like Kenedy in his time.
  26. Stormsk
    Stormsk 17 February 2017 23: 46
    0
    Quote: Andryukha G
    Putin, Patrushev, instruct to create an information warfare regiment, and in half a year the United States will have such a Maidan, which they cannot even imagine in "Hollywood". We have been looking with our mouths open for too long at this cloaca of swindlers, fraudsters, and simply international criminals who hide behind the monopoly of their dollar. But we can destroy this within a month or two by active propaganda in the world - a COMPLETE REFUSAL OF THE DOLLAR as a means of feeding terrorists of all stripes. By showing the whole world that it is the DOLLAR ZONE - THERE IS A ZONE OF THE MAIDAN AND TERRORISM. In addition, through the blogs and forums of the United States itself, we can initiate such a Maidan there, which will surpass both the October Revolution of 1917 and the Kiev "RAGULUTSIU GIDOTI". It is in the USA that there are so many social, ethnic, religious, interracial, gender issues and oppression that will be enough for the whole world. You just need to create one or two regiments of information warfare specialists and start working for the result. Through their own sites and forums. Why there are as many as THREE such regiments in China, and not a single one in our country !!!

    I agree!
  27. Senior manager
    Senior manager 18 February 2017 07: 15
    0
    It looks like the guy is not yet in the subject, and hides it under blah blah.
  28. Slovak
    Slovak 18 February 2017 19: 31
    0
    Now the summit of the foreign ministers of the G19 countries will be called + clamshell