In Syria, the number of UAZ-3151 gantraks and ZIL-131 trucks increases

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[cost]

The Russian Ministry of Defense decided to minimize the purchase of new UAZ-3151 as obsolete SUVs. Apparently, the vehicles already in the troops are being withdrawn from service, undergoing repairs and sent to Syria.

I hope at least not as a gift

[Gray brother]

Quote: Rich

I hope at least not as a gift

You cannot be so greedy.

[cost]

And here it is. After all, the gift is not from me personally, but from all the Russians it will turn out, even from my newborn granddaughter who still does not know how to speak.
How many Russia has already done such gifts. And no one asked us. And how many debts were written off, even to the ridiculous, we write off multibillion-dollar debts to them, and they, in gratitude, vote against us at the UN or demolish monuments to our soldiers.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Rich

. After all, the gift is not from me personally, but from all Russians

I, as a Russian, do not mind. Good thing.

even from my newborn granddaughter who doesn’t know how to speak.

She doesn’t pay taxes, so don’t have to drag granddaughters here - this is illiterate.

[himRa]

heh heh ...

[just exp]

And as a citizen, can the granddaughter count on a share of the national welfare fund?
I don’t feel sorry for that either, but I’m not sorry because Syria is important to us, and to protect it and protect export earnings from oil and gas sales. here the deliveries pay off.
but to squander like the USSR before, I consider unacceptable.

[Gray brother]

Quote: just explo

and how can a granddaughter count on a part of the national welfare fund as a citizen?

She cannot count on part of the property of the Ministry of Defense for sure.

[just exp]

and when in a country is a crisis property for the municipal defense from what funds are purchased?

[Sling cutter]

ZIL-131 is still there, but there is no factory where they were made anymore
I wonder what are the former employees of the ZIL plant doing now?

[Eugene-Eugene]

On the same breads as the main "shipyards" GM

[commbatant]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Rich

. After all, the gift is not from me personally, but from all Russians

I, as a Russian, do not mind. Good thing.

even from my newborn granddaughter who doesn’t know how to speak.

She doesn’t pay taxes, so don’t have to drag granddaughters here - this is illiterate.

Why is it illiterate? When you are retired or sd ... those, you will pay for your "kindness and generosity" ...

[Borets]

If not for Syria, then the pipeline from Qatar to the EU would be approaching the end of construction.

[You Vlad]

And the EU, by order from Washington, would stop buying the wrong gas and oil from Russia. Loss of the market is definitely over time or selling at damp prices. That is, they will politely rob us.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Borets

If not for Syria, then the pipeline from Qatar to the EU would be approaching the end of construction.

That is why the leadership of the Russian Federation sold shares of Rosneft to Qatar?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Stroporez

That is why the leadership of the Russian Federation sold shares of Rosneft to Qatar?

- um ... again twenty-five money for fish ...
- What, again, to tell why and to whom they sold the stake in Rosneft?
- that’s already tired of her, right

 Here, read it first

http://crimsonalter.livejournal.com/106318.html

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Cat Man Null

- What, again, to tell why and to whom they sold the stake in Rosneft?
- that’s already tired of her, right

You see what the matter is, I have my own opinion based on certain facts, and in this sense I will remain with him (my opinion).
And I’m pleased to remind you that you, at one time, supported the overthrow of the ruble 2-3 times, passing it off as speculation of foreign enemies
And also with motivation and links
And now? will you say the same thing?
And please note, sometimes, sometimes, I agree with you very much

[Cat man null]

Quote: Stroporez

I have my own opinion based on certain facts and in this sense I will remain with him (my opinion)

- the opinion is “own”, but you will remain with the “own” opinion ... um ...
- well, what to say - your right

Quote: Stroporez

You at one time supported the overthrow of the ruble 2-3 times, passing it off as speculation of foreign enemies

- so, by division:
- I never "supported" the "rollover of the ruble" ... I have a salary, you see, in rubles. This is when she is at all
- the ruble "three times" in the last 10 years did not fall. In two - yes, it was.
- I will stay about the reasons for this fall ... "with my own opinion", with your permission

Quote: Stroporez

very even agree

- word rich happened.
- Friday, or what?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Cat Man Null

- I will stay about the reasons for this fall ... "with my own opinion", with your permission

Well of course!

Quote: Cat Man Null

- the rich word has turned out.

The Russian language is finally rich and diverse. (The tablet mows)

Quote: Cat Man Null

- Friday, or what?

Maybe I would be glad But I can’t, on sick leave

[padded jacket]

Quote: Rich

And here it is. After all, the gift is not from me personally, but from all the Russians it will turn out, even from my newborn granddaughter who still does not know how to speak.

This is precisely what is very important here, and by making such “gifts” our government is protecting us Russians from fighting terrorists not on the territory of Syria with the hands of the Syrians, Lebanese, Iranians, only with our help, but somewhere in our Caucasus - with our own hands.
Or do you want your son to be at war with this ISIS in Russia now?

[You Vlad]

Vatnik, it’s time for your comments to change your nickname to Kuzma Prutkov. And then I remember I was not happy.

[Ksi-14]

it will be more pleasant for you when these basmochi don’t bring the GDP will come to Russia they will have fun with your granddaughter how they like the geyropa it already feels

[Eugene-Eugene]

He has a nickname

[PatriotRU]

He speaks the truth, there is no need to hand out equipment. Otherwise, like the USSR, we will end up with billions. We gave Egypt equipment, built a dam, and raised the country from its knees. And what did Egypt do next? They forgot our gifts and help and became our enemies. And he added his grandson here, since our government, spending fabulous money on Syria, will spend less on kindergartens, schools, and hospitals.

[padded jacket]

Quote: PatriotRU

And he added his granddaughter here, since our government spending fabulous money on Syria will spend less on kindergartens, schools and hospitals

If terrorists come to our home (Russia), then no money will be needed for hospitals, kindergartens, schools and similar children's institutions; all this money will go to war and we and our sons will die there.
So your patriotism PatriotRU is more like a provocation.

[PatriotRU]

Is the construction of new kindergartens, hospitals and schools a provocation? And the distribution of military equipment is not a provocation. They won’t get here if the border guards and the FSB do their job well. Do not make me laugh

[neri73-r]

Quote: PatriotRU

Is the construction of new kindergartens, hospitals and schools a provocation? And the distribution of military equipment is not a provocation. They won’t get here if the border guards and the FSB do their job well. Do not make me laugh

It’s good that they hope for our border guards and FSB officers while they are living and living abroad !!! How are you refugees in Romania did not get stuck ???? Oh yes, they don’t want to go to you, give them Germany. No border guards will not keep the Ishilovites, if they are on our borders, they will have to fight on their own land !!! So, it’s better to help the Syrians now than to die for yourself later!

[PatriotRU]

Gentlemen, I'm from Russia, I just change the IP address constantly. Understand the Terrorists will never win, they will always be. And while we will give huge funds to other countries, we ourselves will have nothing left. people are not given a salary for 2 years; what other help is there for others?

[padded jacket]

Quote: PatriotRU

people are not given a salary for 2 years

Where? Please indicate specifically.

Quote: PatriotRU

what other help to others?

That is, you think it is better to rot in the trench in the Caucasus?

[PatriotRU]

Miners in the city of Gukovo, who have not been paid a salary for 2 years, recorded a video message to Putin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAXyqWvuNEE

[Eugene-Eugene]

which 1699 recording year or another? + place. And then I can also nasnyat about spilling your life ... But not like you, but you with an obvious place and time

[PatriotRU]

Caucasians themselves will not let them in! It’s more profitable for them to live with us than with beards

[padded jacket]

Quote: PatriotRU

Caucasians themselves will not let them in! It’s more profitable for them to live with us than with beards

Who knows? The ideas of ISIS are apparently attractive to some category of Muslims, and let's remember the Chechen wars - they were not that long ago.

[padded jacket]

Quote: PatriotRU

Is the construction of new kindergartens, hospitals and schools a provocation?

The provocation is that people like you, speculating on the shortage of kindergartens, want the money allocated for the country's defense to be cut, and ultimately people like you want a conflict to be unleashed on our country's territory so that we ourselves, with weapons in hand, would serve out terrorist attacks somewhere in the Moscow area. At the same time, our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will not attend kindergartens and schools, but hide in bomb shelters.
That’s the whole point of the “moaning” of such “patriots” who advocate for new hospitals and stopping aid to countries fighting terrorism.

[PatriotRU]

I'm not saying cut defense costs! I just say it is not necessary to scatter our money and resources to other countries. We have enough problems ourselves. There is a direct correlation between education and crime rates and terrorists. I do not want to unleash a conflict. Just understand, we all forgive debts, pay our debts and give military equipment to everyone! Is this not an undermining of the country's power and defense?

[padded jacket]

Quote: PatriotRU

I just say it is not necessary to scatter our money and resources to other countries

Yes, no one just scatters money and our government only fights with bandits who may come to us.

Quote: PatriotRU

Just understand, we all forgive debts, pay our debts and give military equipment to everyone! Is this not an undermining of the country's power and defense?

This equipment has long been outdated and it is cheaper to simply give it away than to keep it in storage facilities, spending huge amounts of money on its maintenance, paying security guards salaries, and so on.

Quote: PatriotRU

Is this not an undermining of the country's power and defense?

No, this is not undermining the power and defense capability, but on the contrary, strengthening it, since not only are we helping Syria to destroy terrorists, some of whom are from our country, we are also testing new weapons and tactics for fighting large gangs there.

[PatriotRU]

We will remain with our opinions! I just do not repeat the mistakes of the USSR, squandering funds for everyone

[PatriotRU]

we don’t have enough money for ourselves, as you don’t understand, and we are distributing equipment that we ourselves would use

[padded jacket]

Quote: PatriotRU

They won’t get here if the border guards and the FSB do their job well.

Well, this is generally just "nonsense" in our age of technology and the Internet, this is simply not possible with 100% certainty.
Moreover, if terrorists incited by the USA, Israel, EU and Saudi Arabia capture Syria, for example, then no FSB or "border guards" will be able to stop them; the full power of our army will be needed here.

[PatriotRU]

ok, everything is clear with you

[padded jacket]

Quote: PatriotRU

ok, everything is clear with you

Is everything clear with you too?

[PatriotRU]

Do you think that Igilovtsi Tank Columns, or a group of 150 soldiers will go? More or less powerful states surround us, the focus of battles is not directly below us.

[padded jacket]

Quote: PatriotRU

Tank columns, or a group of 150 soldiers go?

Well, in Syria and Iraq, they now walk in groups of several thousand people when attacking Palmyra, for example, up to 5 thousand terrorists with tanks participated, etc. And if they already capture Syria and Iraq, then their arsenals will be replenished with thousands of tanks and armored personnel carriers

[Hey]

For sure, a lot of kindergartens and schools will be set up for this scrap.
UAZ can sell 50-100 thousand. A hundred of these 5-10 mil. It is only the foundation that will flood one.
The same picture is with ZILs.
The people will get rich. And they will look at the unfinished construction.
And so the machines will serve the great cause.
And there’s nothing to collect “junk”, let the industry work and set up a new one for conservation.

[PatriotRU]

We will soon be selling off surplus Pakf and Armata for next to nothing, it's just worth it. Once upon a time, this equipment was bought for money and resources, by our fathers and grandfathers! And we are squandering it. It would be better to give such equipment to the same peasants, utility workers and builders. Spend money effectively

[padded jacket]

Quote: PatriotRU

Just like that, we will soon be selling excess Pakf and Armata for nothing, it’s just that simple.

About 50 years later, when they are already out of date it will be entirely logical.

[PAM]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Rich

I hope at least not as a gift

You cannot be so greedy.

with UAZ, okay, as they say, to achieve goals, it’s cheap and cheerful, and most importantly for our army it’s already really out of date, but with zil, give out to farmers with permission to finalize the power plant (transfer to gas, put an injection instead of a carburetor, compressor power or catch up with the turbine) people would say thanks and could develop in the village.

[AndreyS]

Quote: PAM

but with zil, give out a pancake to farmers with permission to finalize the power plant (switch to gas, put an injection instead of a carburetor, catch the power with a compressor or turbine) people would say thanks and could develop in the village.

Sum count the upgrades. And who is stopping farmers from buying these zils ?! The MO sale was arranged at the end of 2016, everyone who wanted to could buy. Such a zil cost from 50 p., The maximum price was 000 p. But who needs them with a consumption of 300-000 liters per 35 km ?!

[PAM]

as I say, distribute it to our farmers, and don’t give it to another state (they also spent money on transportation), I’m not a farmer, but I’ll find a pancake for it, I’ll immediately transfer it to gas and put it on a penny for a truck.

[dik-nsk]

I hope at least not as a gift

Yes, 100% gifts, except that preferences will return after the end of the war .. but there’s a two-edged sword, which is cheaper - throw as a gift junk to an ally who is immensely happy about this, and increase combat effectiveness, or utilize this junk, question))) I think Shoigu considers everything

[PatriotRU]

It was possible to sell to villagers or construction companies for a symbolic price. And what we send there is like water in the sand

[panther]

In Russia, alas, this is not done. Back in the 90s, this question was raised, regarding the transfer of surplus trucks from military depots to the population at a symbolic price. We decided then that it would undermine domestic automakers. As a result, trucks and motorcycles in excellent condition from the army warehouses went under the ice rink. Better to give Assad.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Panther

. Back in the 90s, this question was raised, regarding the transfer of surplus trucks from military depots to the population at a symbolic price.

A ZIL-131 for everyone!!! Ahahahaha!
Here the oil workers will rise!

[Gray brother]

Quote: Panther

let's go under the rink

Yeah, they went right under the ice rink so that they are still selling them from storage and they don’t see the end-edge.
And I must say that few people need this whole thing because military equipment, for the most part, is not suitable for commercial use.

[panther]

When I read about motorcycles in the army, everyone was disposed of in the 90s. http://gurkhan.blogspot.ru/2011/12/blog-post_15.h
tml
About trucks, too, it came across that good equipment was allowed into scrap. Yes, just look at how it is stored outdoors. Rotting slowly. I don’t understand what they regret here. Rather than rust with us, it is better to let the Syrians take advantage.

[dik-nsk]

I don’t know how in the 90s, but now your lie, last year I saw on the MO website the sale of old equipment for a nominal price

[neri73-r]

[quote = PatriotRU] [/ quote]


Why are you changing flags like that? VPN? You don't want to show the real country, can I try to guess -..........uhhh Ukraine or Poland?

[PatriotRU]

For my anti-government statements, you can get a deadline too. God saves man, who save himself.

[AndreyS]

Quote: PatriotRU

For my anti-government statements, you can get a deadline too. God saves man, who save himself.

Do not make me laugh! Your children’s babble will not even pull on an unfortunate fine! So you can safely "open the face." Although if you are respected, from Ukraine, then your statement about the deadline is true, you are trying to cheat for the "aggressor"!

[PatriotRU]

Dear Sir, in our country they put people in jail for reposts and statements. And even more so for such unfortunate critics as me.

[lis-ik]

Quote: dik-nsk

I hope at least not as a gift

Yes, 100% gifts, except that preferences will return after the end of the war .. but there’s a two-edged sword, which is cheaper - throw as a gift junk to an ally who is immensely happy about this, and increase combat effectiveness, or utilize this junk, question))) I think Shoigu considers everything

Why dispose of new, stored equipment. I wouldn’t refuse an UAZ, but I think many would buy at a residual price.

[AndreyS]

Quote: lis-ik

Why dispose of new, stored equipment. I wouldn’t refuse an UAZ, but I think many would buy at a residual price.

Well, the flag is in your hands, here is the link - http://economy.mil.ru/economy/disposal_of_assets/
movables/lots/more.htm?id=12104983@morfMovablesAu
ction
"...Name of property GAZ-41, GAZ-49, spare parts for BMP-1, GTZh-22M, Vaseline oil, battery cans, individual anti-chemical bags, fuel oil, shunting diesel locomotives, wagons, wheels, tires, matches, scrap and mixed scrap of ferrous and non-ferrous metals, etc..."

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Rich

I hope at least not as a gift

Everything that is sent to Syria can be considered as gifts. The country is destroyed. No one will undertake to predict the future structure of this country and its borders. Even "if", then still no one will bear responsibility for today's agreements with Bashar al-Assad.

You cannot be so greedy.

[Chills]

Not gifts, but investments. A country with hydrocarbons will need to be rebuilt. Guess the company which country there will rebuild everything and pump oil. It is not necessary to trifle like that on zilah / oise, which are stored in the troops and require a budget for maintenance, by the way. All this will pay off. The main thing is that everything isn’t profiled, otherwise we are talents in this ... yes.

[PatriotRU]

The Soviet Union invested billions in Africa, but where are the deviants? Oil unfortunately the past in the near future its role will only decrease.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

This is 100% case when they say "share the skin of an undead bear."
Do you think there was no oil there before? Do not believe it, but it was. And the infrastructure was. But the infrastructure is no longer there.
I will not discuss here the economic aspects of the future revival of Syria. I can only say that your estimates are extremely high. This is only the economic part of the issue. As for the future borders of Syria and its political structure, your knowledge and confidence, given the general uncertainty, allow you to draw some conclusions.

Quote: Oznob

Guess the company which country there will rebuild everything and pump oil.

This is completely unknown to me. If I knew a buyback, I would live in Sochi.

[Chills]

He took criticism. Arguments and references to the "firewood" is not given. However, I can consider the solution successful (any, in any area of ​​human life), if it solves several problems simultaneously. I do not think that the purpose of our presence in Syria is exclusively the fight against barmaley. It is logical to assume that we are limiting our competitors' ability to supply hydrocarbons to Europe (this is also money), that Syria has something to offer as a Russian product after the war. In this light, the supply of equipment to an ally does not look like squandering public goods. Let me remind you that the equipment is recognized as not meeting the requirements of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but at the same time it harmoniously fits into the Armed Forces of the SAR.
Z.Y. the skin of a dead bear is always divided. This is an investment, they are not without risks.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Oznob

This is an investment, they are not without risks.

It’s hard not to agree. However, the risks should be within certain limits.
To say how much politics and how much economy there was in deciding to get involved in Syria, I would not take it. If there were no politics, then Syria would not have gotten involved in 2015, but in 2011.
From an economic point of view, this region is of interest to Russia not so much for investments, but for the reluctance of foreign investments. Russia needs to sell its gas and oil, not Syrian or Arab ones.
So it turns out I did not win, but lost, and not to the lottery, but to the cards.

Let me remind you that the equipment is recognized as not meeting the requirements of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but at the same time it harmoniously fits into the Armed Forces of the SAR.

I did not say what not to deliver. But it is necessary to deliver what will work, and not to remain inactive. But this is more difficult to explain.

[Chills]

Zil-131, t-62, UAZs, lawns, shishigi fit into the technological capabilities of Arab repairmen. I think it will work. In any case, the equipment from the ship goes into battle, the news is just around the corner.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Oznob

Zil-131, t-62, UAZs, lawns, shishigi fit into the technological capabilities of Arab repairmen.

I agree, fit. But why were Vodnikov sent there, of which only about a hundred were produced? Earlier this news was here.
The Syrians did not need armored cars at all. Terrorists have very little artillery, but no aviation at all. Syrians need barrel artillery, mostly towed. We need mortars. What the doctor ordered. But they must be taught by our instructors, otherwise they will soon destroy all our supplies. New shells and mines already have to be done at new prices.
In Syria, everything is just beginning. And what happens, outside observers, like the good half of the actors, have no idea.
I assure you that the leadership of the Russian Federation does not hope to get economic benefits from participating in the Syrian war. Nothing but expenses.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Syrians do not need armored cars at all

The Syrians, in the first place, need various armored personnel carriers, preferably with 30-mm guns like the BTR-82, and even their current movement on unarmored vehicles and various carts is a certain death and even massive.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

If they move like that in the war zone, then yes. But I do not believe in it. If their similar movements are not covered by artillery, again, I will not argue. That's just all the “Vodniki” they get up in a week in any case. And read my opinion related to Vodnik. I wrote there that instead of them it was better to send more massive APCs.

[krass]

Quote: Oznob

This is an investment, they are not without risks.

Such investment managers need to be hung for eggs

[Chills]

It's hard not to agree.

[Koshak]

Quote: Rich

I hope at least not as a gift

Well, let it rot better, but I won’t give it away for nothing? Like a dog in the manger, I won’t eat it myself or give it to others.

[PatriotRU]

to our peasants in the village, public utilities, postal workers, etc., how else would be useful

for example
In the Ivanovo region in the village, people began to steal from neighbors from starvation

The pensioner faces up to 6 years in prison for the theft of pasta, stews, tea and sugar. This case is not the only one.

In the Ivanovo region, a pensioner is tried for theft of food from neighbors. In the district court, where she should be sentenced, such cases are now not uncommon.

According to IvanovoNews, in August a woman stole ketchup and some sugar for 70 rubles. In early December - two cans of stew, a package of pasta, sugar, cookies and 17 tea bags, totaling 560 rubles.

Denis Grachev, senior assistant to the prosecutor of the Volga region, said that women’s crimes are classified by law as serious against property. A woman faces up to 6 years in prison.

“I beg you, do not plant me, I don’t know what’s going on with me,” the pensioner asked the judge. According to the woman, her pension is 7 rubles. At the same time, 300 thousand rubles are spent on repaying a loan for a refrigerator. Plus communal. For food there remains a little more than 4,5 thousand rubles a month for two - the woman has a common-law spouse. He works on a local farm, but has not been paid there since June.

The lawyer explained to the court that there was no work for a pensioner in the village. The state prosecutor also took into account the difficult life situation, remorse and redress to neighbors. The neighbor himself has no complaints about the pensioner. Both the prosecutor and the lawyer asked for probation.

Meanwhile, the assistant to the chairman of the Volga district court, Yulia Panfilova, noted that this is not the first time that people go to theft from starvation. There have been several such cases in the area lately. In one case, a man stole 18 loaves of bread from hunger - for the future. The peasant also worked on the farm and his salary was a little more than 6 thousand rubles. He was sentenced to correctional labor.

Another peasant gradually stole sausages, bread, and pasta from neighbors. He could not find work and went on a crime of hunger. People characterized him positively; he often helped his housemates for a small fee in order to survive. “Everyone understood why he committed a crime,” said prosecutor Grachev. The man also received correctional labor as a punishment.

[Pecheneg]

And the sheep are safe and the wolves are full. Syria receives effective support from Russia, Russia is getting rid of junk. All is correct.

[cost]

UAZ is not a tank. Wouldn’t it be easier to sell this “old stuff” to the villagers. And the money would have appeared in the treasury and the expenses would have been avoided for repairs and forwarding to Syria

[PatriotRU]

Comrade Rich, it is useless to explain to them that they should not give away our property. As I understand it, the people sitting here are mainly hurray patriots who are for the United Russia party with both hands, for whom 13 thousand rubles is considered a very normal pension, and forgiving billions in debts and giving away billions is normal. It is useless

[Cat man null]

Quote: PatriotRU

Comrade rich ... patriots cheer here ...

- for sure ...
- and still sitting here comrades, for some reason calling himself patriot.ru, and stupidly trolls.
- the fact that the comrade at the same time has a non-Russian flag, this is so ... the terrain.
- Comrade Summer uses the lack of a tool on the website called "minus". Since if there was a comrade on the site there would be no more.

True path you go ... comrades

[PatriotRU]

if you didn't understand, I'm sitting under different IP addresses. I can change to the US now. Can you explain to me how I'm trolling? After all, many of those gathered here are really hooray patriots who think that we are the only ones who are so good, and the West sits and sees how to screw us over

[Cat man null]

Quote: PatriotRU

if you do not understand, I am sitting under different ip addresses. I can change in the USA now ...

- for what purpose are you encrypted? I, as an example, am not encrypted, although I can also

Quote: PatriotRU

Can you explain to me how I troll?

- You troll ... thickly. I am very surprised that here is the horse Tingent, which is being conducted on this.
- however, as I said already, VO is such a Noah's ark, where each creature has hare pair

Quote: PatriotRU

Indeed, many of the people who gathered here are cheers patriots who think that we alone are so good, and the west sits and sees how we can give a shit

- the word "cheers" in your definition, IMHO, too much
- "West" is really disadvantageous for the Russian Federation to be "rich and healthy"
- "West" it is preferable that the Russian Federation was poor and sick. As under Bora Yeltsin about

[PatriotRU]

An ordinary Westerner doesn’t give a damn about us, many of them believe about Balalaika and tame bears instead of dogs. Trolling is when you throw a false info, but what I throw is checked

[PatriotRU]

Our government puts people for reposts, safety net. It is not known what the system will do with you

[Cat man null]

Quote: PatriotRU

Our government puts people for reposts, insurance

- a frightened crow, began to be ... and write

Quote: PatriotRU

... the government puts people behind reposts ...

- Your ignorance touches sometimes
- The government cannot "plant" anyone
- for this there is a court and others there ... FSIN

That's it ... comrades

[PatriotRU]

Recognize that our courts are politicized, and their decisions are sometimes unconstitutional! Our courts are completely subordinate to the authorities !!!

[PatriotRU]

we impoverish ourselves and kill health. For example, a little holiday we immediately say “roll over 100 grams”, etc. We are going to allow Larks with alcohol and cigarettes near Schools and Hospitals! Notice the Government does it !!!
And as for poverty, look
Miners in the city of Gukovo, who have not been paid a salary for 2 years, recorded a video message to Putin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAXyqWvuNEE

[Monos]

Quote: Cat Man Null

True path you go ... comrades

This is the same "tovarisch" ... in my opinion. Registered 12.02 and 08.02.
He talks to himself. You seem to notice this too.

[PatriotRU]

Monos, you diagnose schizophrenia early. It seems to you paranoid nonsense. I registered no earlier than a month ago

[Monos]

Oh, again I set myself a plus sign. Krasava! How do you have there in Myzdobulia, have blackouts already begun?

[PatriotRU]

Here you don't give yourself pluses) No, but In the Ivanovo region in the countryside, people began to steal from their neighbors from hunger!

The pensioner faces up to 6 years in prison for the theft of pasta, stews, tea and sugar. This case is not the only one.

In the Ivanovo region, a pensioner is tried for theft of food from neighbors. In the district court, where she should be sentenced, such cases are now not uncommon.

According to IvanovoNews, in August a woman stole ketchup and some sugar for 70 rubles. In early December - two cans of stew, a package of pasta, sugar, cookies and 17 tea bags, totaling 560 rubles.

Denis Grachev, senior assistant to the prosecutor of the Volga region, said that women’s crimes are classified by law as serious against property. A woman faces up to 6 years in prison.

“I beg you, do not plant me, I don’t know what’s going on with me,” the pensioner asked the judge. According to the woman, her pension is 7 rubles. At the same time, 300 thousand rubles are spent on repaying a loan for a refrigerator. Plus communal. For food there remains a little more than 4,5 thousand rubles a month for two - the woman has a common-law spouse. He works on a local farm, but has not been paid there since June.

The lawyer explained to the court that there was no work for a pensioner in the village. The state prosecutor also took into account the difficult life situation, remorse and redress to neighbors. The neighbor himself has no complaints about the pensioner. Both the prosecutor and the lawyer asked for probation.

Meanwhile, the assistant to the chairman of the Volga district court, Yulia Panfilova, noted that this is not the first time that people go to theft from starvation. There have been several such cases in the area lately. In one case, a man stole 18 loaves of bread from hunger - for the future. The peasant also worked on the farm and his salary was a little more than 6 thousand rubles. He was sentenced to correctional labor.

Another peasant gradually stole sausages, bread, and pasta from neighbors. He could not find work and went on a crime of hunger. People characterized him positively; he often helped his housemates for a small fee in order to survive. “Everyone understood why he committed a crime,” said prosecutor Grachev. The man also received correctional labor as a punishment.

[Monos]

Here, lo! Finally, he began to uncover! It went bombing diarrhea from the Censor. It would have been so long ago, otherwise everything was disguised as adequat.

[PatriotRU]

This is not a censor. This is from our Russian sites http://www.rosbalt.ru/russia/2017/02/16/1592559.h
tml. If at last you stop listening and reading propaganda, maybe then it will reach you that I am not against Russia. You just perceive any criticism, inadequately

[Monos]

Quote: PatriotRU

If finally stop listening and read the propaganda

Do you offer to listen and read your propaganda? Dismiss Leave these slops to your pots.

Quote: PatriotRU

This is not a censor. This is from our Russian sites http://www.rosbalt.ru/russia/2017/02/16/1592559.h

You are here still "Fly Moscow" cite.

[PatriotRU]

This is not a censor. This is from our Russian sites http://www.rosbalt.ru/russia/2017/02/16/1592559.h
tml. If at last you stop listening and reading propaganda, maybe then it will reach you that I am not against Russia. You just perceive any criticism, inadequately

[Oleg Monarchist]

Well, what kind of patriot are you? Did you study to become a doctor in England for 13 thousand rubles a month?
Or just stolen? Are you or your parents?

[PatriotRU]

According to the competition, the grant was received for training, accommodation and meals. That our government does not practice, giving out a scanty scholarship.

[Oleg Monarchist]

I didn’t "steal." I'm sorry. Only here is the question. British students do not pay at all for tuition, meals and accommodation ????? All study through scholarships and grants? And then they regularly rebel? Since this year, it is planned that British medical students will be fully transferred from scholarships and grants to whom they have loans for studies (it is necessary to explain what it is).

I read your previous posts, so straight is the paradise of the earth this England, all there curly and chocolate, with your words.



How is that possible? Such an elfin country, a beacon of prosperity and tolerant democracy, loaves of bread and sausages growing on trees, billions of pounds scattered across London's pavements, take it or leave it, all the English are the most sensitive and attentive nation, they eat ambrosia, play harps and shit exclusively with roses, and suddenly THIS


And that they are all so poor, would go to college, live for even scholarships and grants, buy each a castle, a private jet. They would take an example from you, and tell us how they live wonderful lives, only they don’t have enough money to eat.

[PatriotRU]

You look at their apartment and what these poor people eat. They have a poverty line if a person cannot afford to renew their wardrobe every year. These food cans were in Glasgow, but they were clean for the homeless or large. In general, I repeat, they do not have the same problem as in Russia. But THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM with alcoholism and drug addiction. Well, just awesome.

[PatriotRU]

The 2013 Living Costs and Food Survey showed that the poorest 10% of households only spent an average of £ 46 on food and non-alcoholic drinks each week but that accounted for 15% of their household expenditure. http://foodfoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2
016/07 / FoodInsecurityBriefing-May-2016-FINAL.pdf Even the poorest spend 15 percent of their income on food. There is no talk of any hunger, in their grocery basket, unless fish or fruit is acceptable, then according to statistics, this person is considered to be malnourished. Trust me as a doctor

[PatriotRU]

As for the dangerous hospitals, I heard about the incident, here the officials are to blame, 2 out of 3 local hospitals were closed due to non-compliance with the standards, and here the influx went 3 times more. In medicine, the mess began as the government began a muddy reform, which our British union criticized. Like de stupid provisions removed. Now they have all the rules. The only problem is that now the doctors there are mostly Pakistanis and Indians (young *), nurses from the Philippines and Malaysia. The purebred British themselves are less and less. There are a lot of old people.

[Oleg Monarchist]

And yet, about the British pensioners, who, in your words, enjoy the greatest British pensions and are tormented by the question "where to go to hang out" in Ibiza, the Caribbean or the Seychelles


And what is it they freeze to death in their homes .... dofiga money, nowhere to go.

[PatriotRU]

Yes, they have problems too, but about freezing to death. Hmm, I have serious doubts. When I was doing my internship in Glasgow, and THIS IS COLD SCOTLAND, we never had frostbitten pensioners brought to our clinic. They have a minimum pension or benefits that covers the cost of utilities, food, clothing and hygiene products. What I see here is a protest against the increase in prices for utilities. For example, the government pays extra to socially vulnerable groups for their utilities. The £ 60 promised in the pre-budget report will help, but the Government needs to provide more crisis payments for older people struggling to heat their homes this Christmas.[b] [/ b] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/eld
er / 3531276 / Thousands-of-elderly-people-die-of-col
d-each-winter-in-a-national-scandal.html And in general, people then died not because they were freezing in their houses because their heat was turned off, but because, Every year they have an increasing number of diseases such as Pneumonia, etc. In general, they have real capitalism, but the British government helps its pensioners a lot, fully paying for all expensive treatment
There, people generally like to defend their rights; for example, I observed a protest against measures to control the population of homeless cats and dogs (in our opinion, euthanasia).

[Koshak]

Quote: PatriotRU

Comrade Rich, it is useless to explain to them that they should not give away our property. As I understand it, the people sitting here are mainly hurray patriots who are for the United Russia party with both hands, for whom 13 thousand rubles is considered a very normal pension, and forgiving billions in debts and giving away billions is normal. It is useless

YOUR good in Kazakhstan. Take care of him, take care of him. And we will figure it out.

[PatriotRU]

And I live in Russia. You do not recognize that our wealth is squandered?

[Koshak]

Quote: PatriotRU

And I live in Russia.

And why, under the Kazakh, mow (the flag) and mislead the people?

[Suhov]

Quote: Pecheneg

And the sheep are safe and the wolves are full ...

... and the shepherd's eternal memory.

[Banishing liberoids]

If the equipment goes to Syria en masse, then this confirms the reports that the Syrian army is in a very, very sad situation in this regard. Only supplies from Russia can somehow change the situation that has developed in the Syrian army.

[Vadim237]

Yes, anti-tank missiles carry all the equipment in the trash.

[Koshak]

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

If the equipment goes to Syria en masse, then this confirms the reports that the Syrian army in this regard is very, very sad.

Still, not sad. Five years of continuous war with completely destroyed infrastructure.

[jovanni]

I don’t want to offend anyone, but these guys in the pictures on the army are somehow not very similar ... Let's hope that those of our men who deliver cars, who of these barmalei and who are aibolites are well versed ...

[donavi49]

well, who is. Heza only resemble the army there, but the cubs.

They try to teach from what is, so-so. Over in Daraa, King Abdal allowed to probe - the Babohas arranged reconnaissance in battle, the army men fled from the Mansiyan region to the 132 base in a couple of hours. Even the broads did not expect this, that the 1 / 4 of the city would fall to them.

Now they are pulling together forces, they are knocking out of this area gradually back. Have beaten off somewhere half of the district so far. But there, judging by the reports, initially 3,5 Toyota and 5,5 barmaley went with the goal - under negotiations.

New fighters and advisers are trained - let's see what happens with the 5 AK.

[faiver]

and what is our army transplanted from UAZ interesting? to patriots?

[TRex]

Modern, technological, progressive, etc. etc. "Patriots." True, they are twice as expensive, in addition, some of the components are imported ... And in general, expensive, huge block headlights on horseradish military vehicles? A gluttonous, weak, gasoline engine?
469 did not make any full replacement. All this is a bluff to support the pants of the domestic auto industry.
And no one guarantees that tomorrow these barmales on these UAZs with these machine guns will leave for Raqqa.

[tchoni]

God save me from these "patriots." It doesn’t go, the millienne stands and breaks so that the generals have a pen in their hands.

[Bator]

I spent the entire "conscription" period crawling under ZILs and UAZs. I studied them inside and out. I took them apart and put them back together down to the last screw and screw by screw. I don't really understand how they are outdated. Do they "eat" a lot? (how do you adjust the engine) Or do they not have modern bells and whistles? That's more of a plus. After all, in the army, the simpler it is, the more repairable it is. Four of us, with the help of MTOshka, removed, disassembled and installed engines on 3s in 131 hours (and this was in the "field"). In 1.5 hours, we changed all the electrics on a UAZ. Will they be able to do this with modern equipment? Or there is a breakdown and you have to call a "tow truck" and take it to the repair plant.
Well, as for what they send to Syria. It's normal, although most likely for free. They really are more needed there. And there is no good repair shop there.

[activator]

Quote: Batar

Four of us with the help of MToshki for 3 hours shot, sorted and put the engines in the 131s (and this is in the "field")

But I didn’t climb the engine at all in the Urals 43202, well, there’s filter oil and it’s not an example of a carburetor iron. For me, in general, carburetor technology in the army is wrecking, well, UAZ, the 66th is forgivable, but for those who put in two engines in BTR 70 they would have torn off their hands altogether.

[Ardein]

Two engines in an armored personnel carrier did not stick from a good life. There were cases when, when one of the engines was damaged, the APC left on its own, saving the crew’s life.

[activator]

Quote: Ardein

Two engines in an armored personnel carrier did not stick from a good life. There were cases when, when one of the engines was damaged, the APC left on its own, saving the crew’s life.

For some reason, it seems to me that these cases were so rare that they became legends, more often he probably ruined the crew and soldiers from the inability to go

[Siberian]

Batar Today, 09:19 Now the troops themselves do not repair anything because there are no repairmen left in the troops, now servicemen from factories come... in short, if something breaks, wait until the manufacturers arrive...

[Koshak]

Quote: Batar

Four of us, using MToshki, removed, sorted and installed engines in the 3s in 131 hours (and this is in the “field”) In 1.5 hours, we changed all the electrics in the UAZ.

And ZiS-5 and the “one and a half” could be overhauled in any village forge. So, now, you don’t need to switch to a new technique?

[kunstkammer]

as decommissioned and decommissioned ZIL-131, recognized back in 2012 as not meeting the requirements of the Russian army

Well, yes, yes ... I believe that it’s “inadequate” and the “obsolete” Topol-M removed from service can be donated to ... militias of New Russia. A little, just a couple, huh?
That kind of “joy” among the possessed Ukronazists will be!

[Svarog51]

Nah! Poplar-M is impossible, it is M-modernized, it will also come in handy and serve.
UAZ and ZIL go to Syria without an "M", there is even a DShK, not a DShKM. It’s not all the same to the barmalians on Toyota to leave, albeit the aibolites on UAZs keep an eye on them. I would have attached something else to the ZILs under the awnings, so that the tent would be quick-detachable.

[23424636]

ZIL 131 is a great car, true, the consumption is 50 liters, but it is reliable, Kamaz is already a heavier class, but the fact that it is used as a delivery truck instead of ZIL or GAZ is simply sabotage. Probably, this was the goal of the US strategy, which encouraged the chemist Luzhkov in every possible way to destroy the Likhachev plant, the flagship of the automotive industry. And the Kazan lobbyists did not sit idly by, being the first to start corporatizing Kamaz to the tune of the Americans.

[vvp2412]

Helping Syria is, of course, good.
But the Oise and Zilas would be great to buy in Russia if they were sold openly, and not through 10 hands. And the price was adequate to 300 000 rub!

[Ardein]

After reading the comments, I will add a few points:
1. This is all NOT armored vehicles and we have a place for it exclusively in the rear, and that is a big question.
Now the main problem in the vast majority of conflicts is sabotage work. So it’s right that this scrap is removed. And its economic indicators (fuel consumption, etc.) are certainly not for modern agricultural or other business.
2. In Syria, they produce quite effective combat vehicles (specifically for the Syrian theater). Moreover, the 12.7mm DShK on an SUV for most is a much more meaningful tool than the ZSU-23-2. To combat small mobile groups of barmaleas in the desert.
3. In terms of replacement - we are very actively supplying Tigers of different versions (protection classes) to the troops - and this is meaningful and correct. Now also Typhoons-K. In the same Syria, our Russian guards are on typhoons and are moving. And THIS is also meaningful and correct.

PS I hope there is no need to explain the meaning and expediency of replacing UAZs with tigers in the RF Armed Forces, and Zil with typhoons? ...

PPS Pleases at least the lack of questions about why the UAZ put DShK. And no need to explain what CORD is.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Ardein

In Syria, they produce quite effective combat vehicles (specifically for the Syrian theater).

In particular, the ZIL-131 of the Syrian Marine Corps with a 25-mm twin naval turret mount 2M3

[Vadim237]

On the Syrian UAZs, I would put a pair of KPVT and AGS 30 - the power would be killer.

[PatriotRU]

Monos,
do you think you need to quote the first channel, RT?

[Victorio]

hasn't zil ordered to live long under the control of effective managers

[Atlant-1164]

The Russian S-400 Triumph system turned out to be powerless in front of the F-35 fighter: the air defense system could neither stop nor recognize the fifth-generation Israeli fighter in the Syrian province of Damascus. As a result, the plane unimpededly hit the targets and “waved the Russian wing”. Such an assessment of the S-400 is now actively promoted on the Web and is being pedaled by some media outlets with reference to the authoritative American publication Defense News.
This episode occurred on the night of January 13, 2017, when a series of powerful explosions thundered at the Mezzeh military airfield in Damascus, which is an important strategic air base. but comment... maybe there are inflatable complexes there, rubber ones.

[PatriotRU]

Eugene-Eugene,
What are you talking about, express your idea more clearly, what does the protest in Australia have to do with it? I wanted to say that we give out good to everyone, and we do not pay salaries of 2 years. And in general, we have bloggers who convict corruption and criminals, go to jail

[PatriotRU]

Eugene-Eugene,
Feb 16 2017 year
For more than 2 years, miners in Gukovo have not received a salary. For 8 months, mine workers picketed the building of Kingcoal, the mine owner. The payment of salaries was promised both in the regional administration and in the Russian government. To date, only 6 out of 1000 have received compensation.

[Dr. Sorge]

Then they eat gasoline, the 131st :) Or is it a diesel option?