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Tu-154: a terrorist attack by mistake

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Tu-154: a terrorist attack by mistake



The main parametric recorder, which records the work of the engine and the on-board systems of the aircraft, turned out, as reported by the Military Industrial Courier, “not disclosed.” Whether it was possible to decipher something in it is not known.

According to the MIC information received from a high-ranking source, the black box was, as they say, a thing in itself. For some reason, just before the tragic flight, it was shot to replace one of the blocks. Instead of the supposedly outdated "stuffing" put modern. Perhaps the unit was indeed modernized, but before the flight its work was not checked as it should. As a result, all coded information remains a secret with seven seals. Accident?

Let's try to figure out how true the guesses and assumptions voiced earlier in some media.

The first. Various experts put forward a version of the error of piloting. Allegedly, the commander of the vessel, turning the plane away from some object, began to carry out manipulations that are used only in emergency cases (he pressed the rudder pedals). Now experts have come to an unequivocal conclusion: there was no pilot error. Although the possibility of the appearance of a drone at the rate of the aircraft does not dismiss.

The second. The equipment worked until the last moment in the normal mode, its failure was not fixed.

According to one of the former military aviation experts, who have been involved in the investigation of flight emergencies for a long time, have not yet found about 20 bodies of the victims. This, like the large fragmentation of Tu-154 units, suggests that there was still a terrorist attack on board.

“Only an unusual act of terrorism, one that our specialists encountered for the first time,” said the first deputy chief of the operational department of the Air Force General Staff (1997 – 2003), leading adviser to the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security (2003 – 2013), Major General retired military pilot Igor Semenchenko.

But if this is a terrorist attack, it has been worked out for a long time and thoroughly. Forces and funds for his performance were thrown colossal. Russia wanted to show that it is better to stop its activity in Syria. This version is confirmed by the well-known Italian political scientist Giuletto Chiesa: there is nothing accidental, including the crash of the Tu-154 aircraft, the relationship with other events will be found.

One of the threads stretches to Adler Airport, from where it started on the last flight of the Tu-154. According to some reports, only for 20 days, from 3 to 23 in January, the air harbor allowed 163 to grossly violate the order of the Ministry of Transport. The procedure in the sensitive territory was noticed after the identification of the case of the passage of a truck through a checkpoint without examination. Later it turned out that such a violation is not the exception, but rather the rule. However, according to a representative of the airport administration, there were no official appeals from law enforcement officers regarding the incident. This information is currently being verified.

Since one of the reasons for what happened may be in the work of terrestrial services, which should record everything that happens around the airport at a great distance, you should at least learn from this.

It would be advisable the basic parameters of the aircraft systems: speed, course, altitude, roll, pitch, cabin pressure, other characteristics - transmit in the form of telemetry and record in real time by means of control of the airport of departure and / or onboard registration. Implement it on domestic aircraft is a snap. With foreign sides it is more difficult, but manufacturers can be convinced of this - for them the safety of passengers is a priority.

Multichannel control systems, including in the optical and IR ranges, should accompany all flights. Then you don’t have to search and confiscate DVRs and cameras from uncomplicated individuals. Accordingly, control is required at airports and parks with high-definition TV cameras with recording and long-term storage of information. All this in a complex will give the corresponding result.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 17 February 2017 05: 57
    +11
    And the cause of the disaster was not named ....
    1. novel66
      novel66 17 February 2017 06: 34
      +11
      Well, the commission is still working, they’ll finish - they will say (maybe)
      1. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 17 February 2017 12: 35
        +7
        That's right, someday, when the cancer on the mountain whistles. And one hundred% blame the flyers, they say de ....
        1. MY THOUGHT
          MY THOUGHT 17 February 2017 22: 27
          +1
          in Smolensk, our transport flyers also say that the pilot is to blame 100%
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 17 February 2017 06: 38
      +7
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      And the cause of the disaster was not named ....

      We must wait for the end of the official investigation.
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 17 February 2017 06: 53
      +7
      But the cause of the disaster has not been named.
      The work of the commission is not yet completed. Among all versions, there is one not quite ordinary:
      http://новости-россии.ru-an.info/новости/крушение
      -tu-154-like-ruined-liner-using-drones /

      Curious version. This version with the UAV found under Anapa does not seem fantastic to me (nothing surprising, I'm an ignoramus and an amateur). Let the investigation continue to the end, until there is clarity, incl. and with this version. What is the range of this UAV? Were there really NATO ships, even in neutral waters, from which this UAV could be launched, and how did it happen that it ended up under Anapa. How reliable is air defense in the area? Any aircraft requires proper control, is the car to blame for the deaths or "external impact"?
      1. kuz363
        kuz363 17 February 2017 20: 24
        +3
        Can. rather fantastic? The time is 5:30 a.m. It is clear that it is still dark. What UAV can a pilot see in the dark when the speed of the aircraft is about 100 m / s on take-off? In addition, the airport’s radars should have detected it in a timely manner.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 17 February 2017 20: 37
          +1
          Then, about the collision with which obstruction are the experts slurring? With water? Let us suppose. And what was before this, icing, downward flow?
    4. The brightest
      The brightest 17 February 2017 10: 09
      +4
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      And the cause of the disaster was not named ....

      1. Ural resident
        Ural resident 17 February 2017 14: 39
        +5
        and who will confirm that this is related to the Tu-154?
      2. kuz363
        kuz363 17 February 2017 20: 25
        +1
        Then they said that this outbreak was half an hour later after the plane crash.
    5. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 17 February 2017 23: 23
      +7
      ..but before the flight his work was not checked, as it should, I don’t even want to believe in it. My classmate died when an uncalibrated unit was inserted into his control system. A priori it should not be
    6. The comment was deleted.
    7. kig
      kig 18 February 2017 02: 10
      +1
      Sorry, but the author claims that he parses all kinds of guesses voiced in the media.
      1. stas
        stas 18 February 2017 22: 00
        0
        The author of the radish and the article of his garbage.
    8. ism_ek
      ism_ek 19 February 2017 10: 07
      +1
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      And the cause of the disaster was not named ....

      Civil experts have already named the reason. The pilot instead of the landing gear removed the flaps.. The military does not agree. Now create a computer model
  2. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 17 February 2017 06: 22
    +13
    Lada calmly drives around the airport of Kazan .... the driver is not shot or even stopped (in a parallel universe, the airport is blown up with dozens, possibly hundreds of dead.). And these, God forgive me, the "police" and the "guards" are probably still working. Therefore, I will not be surprised at anything.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 17 February 2017 09: 04
      +4
      there are all "their". they cannot be touched. 300 kg could start and detonate. Soothes one-long chasing the "drunk" and calculated his intentions (saw the clearance of the car and the reaction to the situation)
  3. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 17 February 2017 06: 28
    +13
    In the article, evidence of the attack was sent from the finger. the opinion of the necessary ekperdy is given, and the opinion of other experts is not voiced. And voila, on this basis, a conclusion is drawn, and saving recipes are given.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 17 February 2017 07: 53
      +15
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      The article evidence of the terrorist attack sent from the finger

      And where did you get that this is evidence? If there was evidence, then there would be no doubt what happened. This article is rather a reflection on this topic. Which affects such a sore spot as gross violations at our airports.
      1. FID
        FID 17 February 2017 08: 36
        +13
        Quote: Stas157
        Which affects such a sore spot as gross violations at our airports.

        Sorry, but this board had to refuel in another place ... How is it? Is this betrayal elsewhere ???
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 17 February 2017 09: 05
          +3
          Primarily
          if they find a terrorist act - WE ARE ON THE LEVEL OF EBIPT, THE WHOLE COUNTRY THERE.
          1. Standard
            Standard 17 February 2017 14: 04
            +3
            Quote: antivirus
            if they find a terrorist act - WE ARE ON THE LEVEL OF EBIPT, THE WHOLE COUNTRY THERE.


            Below.
            There were fewer questions.
            1. antivirus
              antivirus 17 February 2017 14: 32
              +1
              So, the level of 20 years is "the fight against illiteracy"?
              Another battleship "Empress Maria"
              they won’t find anything? Films will be shot (Dirk) and the resolution in the UN dragging.
              1. Monarchist
                Monarchist 17 February 2017 17: 07
                +1
                By the way, good films Dirk, Bronze Bird
          2. Ural resident
            Ural resident 17 February 2017 14: 40
            +3
            For a terrorist attack would have hastened the responsibility to vie with terrorist groups
        2. Reviews
          Reviews 18 February 2017 15: 09
          +2
          Quote: SSI

          Sorry, but this board had to refuel in another place ... How is it?

          Literally. We had to board a refueling in another airport, but due to weather conditions in it, we went to Adler for a spare.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 February 2017 06: 33
    +3
    questions, questions ... but there are very few concrete answers.
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 17 February 2017 09: 48
      +1
      Fate saved the Great Singer!
      "The first deputy head of the State Duma Committee on Culture, People's Artist of the USSR Joseph Kobzon expressed his sincere condolences in connection with the crash of the Tu-154 in Sochi.

      He told TASS that he was also supposed to be on this ship, as he would fly to Syria with the ensemble named after him. Aleksandrova was asked by the team leader Valery Khalilov. “Khalilov asked me to fly with them,” Kobzon noted, adding that he refused, because he had to go for treatment on a medical visa and together they were already in Latakia.

      The singer joked, they say, next time we fly. “You see how the next time I turned around ...”, concluded Joseph Davydovich.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 17 February 2017 13: 19
        +6
        Quote: To be or not to be
        Fate saved the Great Singer!

        Fate also saved at least 1,5 of the "chosen people" who lived in New York, who for some reason were not at the time of the September 11.09.2001, XNUMX terrorist attack. in the twin towers.
        1. Standard
          Standard 17 February 2017 14: 05
          +1
          Quote: V.ic
          Fate also saved
  5. Fast_mutant
    Fast_mutant 17 February 2017 06: 50
    +13
    Another "nonsense article" with a loud, even screaming, completely unrevealed headline! Definitely a minus! And yes, return the minus!
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 17 February 2017 06: 56
      +16
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      And yes, return the minus!

      I support. In general, a public opinion poll should be conducted on this topic.
      1. Kostya Andreev
        Kostya Andreev 17 February 2017 08: 13
        +4
        Against the cons! as there will be the same pen as the censor e and others like him. And to conduct a survey here about the necessity and unnecessity of minuses, it’s both based on the results of a survey on the echo of Moscow, talking about patriotism and honesty of Shenderovich, Navalny, Novodvorskaya and the rest of the company and their actions.
        Therefore, against the minuses, the opinions of others also need to know, and not cut them out with the minuses
        1. Senior manager
          Senior manager 17 February 2017 09: 30
          +7
          Its reasoned minus is given in the post. Do not be lazy.
          1. bk316
            bk316 17 February 2017 11: 57
            +8
            Its reasoned minus is given in the post.

            GIVE. He promised not to write about this incident and I will not. Only about the nonsense of Falichev.

            Accordingly, control at airports and parking lots is necessary with high-definition TV cameras with recording and long-term storage of information.

            If the author at least knew something about the security regime at airports, he knew that they had been standing there for many years, the suckers simply do not see them, just as they do not see cameras on the streets of Moscow.
            Multichannel control systems, including those in the optical and IR ranges, must accompany all flights.

            Accompany? On which section of the route? Above the taiga and the ocean at an altitude of 10 km?

            In general, the article is a classic yellow delirium, with links to anonymous sources, peremptory but silent statements and insane conclusions.
            1. kuz363
              kuz363 17 February 2017 20: 29
              +1
              May not accompany. but just transmit the information of black boxes to dispatchers during the entire flight?
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 17 February 2017 10: 23
      +6
      yes, return the minus!

      Support.
      1. corporal
        corporal 17 February 2017 11: 23
        +7
        Quote: Fast_mutant
        , return the "minus"!

        Quote: Kostya Andreev
        Against the cons! as there will be the same pen as on the censor and others like him

        Some users (including me) put forward a proposal to introduce “minuses” that do not affect the user's rating, but only show opposition to the opponent’s point of view.
        The administration did not respond in any way, either positively or negatively. request
        Quote: St. Propulsion
        Its reasoned minus is given in the post. No need to be lazy

        It is logical, but, on the other hand, to reasonably respond to some of the "creations" of local idiots, shkoloty and trolls is a waste of time and effort, it is easier to hit a "minus" without explanation.

        Again, there is a likelihood (and rather big one) that those who are now trolling without fear of being driven into the “skulls” will deliberately breed srach to save “minus”, no less diligently than the “pluses” collected.

        In general, it would be better to return the emergency. Everyone would get rid of irritants, and everyone would be happy. Big fellow yes
        1. Kostya Andreev
          Kostya Andreev 17 February 2017 13: 02
          +1
          correct offer
          Quote: Corporal
          Some users (including me) put forward a proposal to introduce “minuses” that do not affect the user's rating, but only show opposition to the opponent’s point of view.
        2. Senior manager
          Senior manager 17 February 2017 15: 00
          +4
          Meant adequate posts, but not illiterate squeals. Without interest, I watched many times how psychosis is being promoted out of the blue, it’s really clear that the character trolls the opponent, and to slow down, turn on the brains - "not d ... if I am." There are people, regardless of the state, who are simply dragging themselves from how they opened up a person, there is such a breed. We are socialist people, so control and, once again, control are right behind us. Do not drop yourself.
  6. Vasiliev Yu
    Vasiliev Yu 17 February 2017 06: 52
    +5
    Somewhere it was written that they were loading something, despite claims that there were no downloads. Fastened poorly (something fell off the mounts) or overload. Perhaps they wanted to deliver something special to Syria under the cover of the ensemble, not without reason that new equipment constantly pops up in Syria. Then we may not know the cause of the disaster, they simply will not say, they will dump everything on the recorder.
    But these are only my speculations and fantasies personally.
    1. Kostya Andreev
      Kostya Andreev 17 February 2017 08: 19
      +11
      This nonsense was written on Ukrainian sites. So feel free to indicate the source. I ask downtime as a lowing question. Why carry weapons on this side if the whole world knows that the Russian Federation is supplying weapons there. Or my planes do not, or money, that would save.
      1. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 17 February 2017 10: 30
        0
        I am not such a mooing expert as some.
        But these are only my speculations and fantasies personally.

        Just wondering, what was there that was incomprehensible in this?
  7. midshipman
    midshipman 17 February 2017 07: 46
    +9
    Dear "novel66", the Commission named the reason and it was voiced- "CREW ERROR". I had to take part in disassembling plane crashes. Personally, I can not agree with this wording. I have the honor.
    1. FID
      FID 17 February 2017 08: 42
      +12
      In vain! The crew arrived in Chkalovskoye very, very early, and when did they depart ???? But the crew did NOT CHANGE, which contradicts the FSN (safety rules). They sat down in Sochi, refueled, took off .... Cleaning the landing gear and cleaning the flaps is next ... The second one is exhausted, tired ... Continue to continue?
      1. Rusfaner
        Rusfaner 17 February 2017 09: 31
        +7
        Dear, on the Tu-154, on takeoff and landing, behind and between the commander and pravak sits bortoch. He controls the engines and much more. He sees everything that both hands do. One of his tasks is to prevent those hands from being "foolish", even by voice warning.
        1. FID
          FID 17 February 2017 10: 21
          +3
          Quote: Rusfaner
          Dear, on the Tu-154, on takeoff and landing, behind and between the commander and the right-winger sits bortoch.

          Respected! You did not delve into what I wrote? The crew arrived for departure at 7.00, and when did they depart? The crew did NOT CHANGE, if the right one was tired, then, in your opinion, the bortach was in perfect order ??? And he saw everything? And did everything right?
        2. 26rus
          26rus 17 February 2017 13: 35
          +4
          Quote: Rusfaner
          Dear, on the Tu-154, on takeoff and landing, behind and between the commander and pravak sits bortoch. He controls the engines and much more. He sees everything that both hands do. One of his tasks is to prevent those hands from being "foolish", even by voice warning.

          In fact, this is the workplace of the navigator. And the flight engineer’s workplace is behind the right pilot, and is deployed 90 degrees. How can he follow the hands of pilots, turning his head in the opposite direction request ? Moreover, at the take-off of his work, it is immeasurable.
    2. novel66
      novel66 17 February 2017 09: 48
      +3
      midshipman, this wording does not suit me either. But has the commission already reported? I missed?
      1. bk316
        bk316 17 February 2017 12: 00
        +2
        this wording does not suit me either

        Is rain outside the window and winter and summer comfortable for you?
        Are you lord god
  8. basmach
    basmach 17 February 2017 07: 58
    +8
    There are many rules in aviation. All work, the execution order are clearly defined. For each work performed (all the more so for replacement) two sign - the executing supervisor. And after the replacement, they must check the operability of the system with which they worked. I don’t know how in civilian life, but in combat units the technician will not let the plane fly until all the specialists sign for the pre-flight
    1. FID
      FID 17 February 2017 08: 37
      +5
      They all signed ... The plane was completely ready ...
      1. basmach
        basmach 17 February 2017 19: 13
        +6
        Fools to sign for what he did not (at least in my time) no. And then it turns out that the offal was changed and not checked. And now he is "unreadable." But they signed. Either a complete mess in the squad, or another noodle. Yes, and the plane could not, from hitting the water at a low overall speed and with a decent angle of attack, scatter as much as 2 km. In any case, after touching the tail part, it will bite its nose, and even more so the fragments will not fly against the velocity vector.
        1. kuz363
          kuz363 17 February 2017 20: 39
          0
          If the takeoff speed was 350 km / h, then it is almost 100 m / s! Not so little. At such a speed, the elasticity of water is like solid earth, so there is no difference. And the wreckage scattered over 2 km due to the remaining horizontal speed, and even a fuel explosion. After all, it was out of the question! Well, at those depths, the plane parts of the plane sank clearly not vertically, but with an offset to the side. Even a streamlined streamline sinker typically does not fall vertically to a depth. Well, sea currents contributed to the movement of aircraft debris
          1. basmach
            basmach 17 February 2017 21: 42
            +2
            Take physics and count. And when moving in water, you do not want to take into account the water resistance (a very effective brake). Again, there is physics. And so that a kilo-weight fragment under 50 flew a kilometer, well, obviously, the speed should be greater. And about the explosion of kerosene. And with what a fright he should rush. Tea is not dynamite. Vapors burn, but the tanks are almost full. From my own experience I know what it is like to set fire to kerosene even at -10. It happened .. As long as you do not heat the top layer in zinc with a torch, it does not burn nichrome (I mean aviation). And so that it explodes, you need a good detonator in the form of plastite or TNT.
  9. Flinky
    Flinky 17 February 2017 08: 36
    +2
    Falichev's theory of a conspiracy around the Tu-154. Laughter, and nothing more.
    1. bk316
      bk316 17 February 2017 12: 02
      +4
      Falichev's theory of a conspiracy around the Tu-154

      This is not a theory, a theory involves statements, their proof and conclusions from proved statements.
      And here only blah blah
  10. barik92090
    barik92090 17 February 2017 09: 39
    +3
    Using the services of airports in Adler, Simferopol, there was a feeling of some relaxation of the staff and the vulnerability of airports, where you can commit various illegal acts with luggage, equipment, etc. Here I would like to see strict military discipline.
  11. Senior manager
    Senior manager 17 February 2017 09: 50
    +7
    The situation with the plane is muddy. There is one definite conclusion - a brothel at a sensitive facility, not a mess. The parametric recorder was made unreadable to hide the causes of the disaster, it is not determined which node has undergone "modernization", the control link can actually be used to bring the aircraft to Adler to perform the specified actions. There is a sea of ​​versions, and if Comrade Bortnikov attracts operars and other specialists who know how to work, then the truth will really be open, not the fact that for all to see. And they can be attributed to the "tragic chain of accidents." And the forces that want to dump the GDP and sell Russia to the FSA are working.
    1. bk316
      bk316 17 February 2017 13: 38
      +4
      Parametric recorder made unreadable

      Who told you this?
      e which node has undergone "modernization",

      Who told you this?
      Version of the sea,

      Who?
      able operas

      Operas? We now have the FSB opera investigating flight accidents? Is everything all right with your head?
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 17 February 2017 14: 45
      +1
      the control link can actually be used to bring the aircraft to Adler to perform the specified actions.
      we will see on arrivals for vacations and other events - on the ups of GDP, how did the Sochi airport clean up? Was there any GDP there during this time? and when they decide, it means the answer is the ion is clear to all initiates
  12. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 17 February 2017 10: 10
    +6
    The main parametric recorder, which records the work of the engine and the on-board systems of the aircraft, turned out, as reported by the Military Industrial Courier, “not disclosed.” Whether it was possible to decipher something in it is not known.
    According to the "VPK" information received from a high-ranking source, the "black box" turned out to be, as they say, a thing in itself. For some reason, just before the tragic flight, it was removed to replace one of the blocks. Instead of the supposedly outdated "filling" they put a modern one. Perhaps the unit was indeed modernized, but before the flight its operation was not checked as it should. As a result, all encoded information remains a secret behind seven seals.
    I will never believe that having the most modern equipment and specialists, far from being fools, it would be impossible to decipher the information. It can’t be that what one invented and did alone, others could not figure it out. It's all about laziness of the mind. Or in reluctance to disclose decrypted information. I remembered my childhood when, with honest eyes, I lied to my teacher about a diary I had forgotten at home. The same babble.
    1. bk316
      bk316 17 February 2017 12: 05
      +4
      It's all about laziness of the mind.

      It's all about the unprofessional zhurnalyug, which are just like some visitors to this forum.
      They can’t write anything worthwhile, but they don’t want to just shut up.
  13. Kenneth
    Kenneth 17 February 2017 12: 13
    0
    Professional civilian pilots with a huge raid on the carcasses fought. And here ...
  14. iouris
    iouris 17 February 2017 12: 18
    +6
    If there is a political decision not to publish the results of the investigation, then all the author’s proposals for “raising” and “exclusion” do not make sense. Any accident reveals a lot of systemic problems and shortcomings in the work of services on the verge of incompetence and malfeasance. Based on the results of the work of the state interdepartmental commission, personnel decisions can be made. There is none of them. So the attack. Information about the inability to decode the data of on-board recorders should be interpreted in this context.
  15. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 17 February 2017 15: 14
    +1
    Why did he sit in Sochi and what did he do there?
  16. vlad007
    vlad007 17 February 2017 15: 35
    +4
    The drone version is very interesting, and in the dark, they could only see it at the last moment.
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 17 February 2017 20: 43
      +2
      Well, at an airplane speed of 100 m / s when taking off at night, an obstacle can only be seen very close, but the pilot’s reaction will be belated. He won’t even have time to turn the helm.
  17. doework
    doework 17 February 2017 15: 45
    +4
    Writing an article (especially on such a painful topic) is necessary with the actual material!
    Transfusion from empty to empty, duplicated on millions of pages on the Internet and hundreds of TV channels, turns people into zombies ...

    I practically refused TV. I usually visited this site with pleasure, as on an island of adequacy in a sea of ​​nonsense and anger ... I do not want to lose this landmark!
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 17 February 2017 17: 20
      +1
      Manley doework, I haven’t turned on TV in recent weeks either and use the Internet
  18. Monarchist
    Monarchist 17 February 2017 17: 17
    +1
    With the terrorist attack, something is doubtful: 1 landing in Adler was not planned, 2 why no one jumped out "we did it, we are fighters, etc." For example, when a disaster happened to the Kursk, some declared: it was the Islamic warrior who sacrificed himself, but destroyed the nuclear submarine
  19. killganoff
    killganoff 17 February 2017 17: 36
    +2
    Quote: novel xnumx
    Well, the commission is still working, they’ll finish - they will say (maybe)

    Yes, as with the "Kursk" they will call the "official" version ....
  20. alone
    alone 17 February 2017 17: 50
    +2
    The specially guarded facility turned out to be like a passage yard. Who wanted to come in, even by truck, who wanted to get out. I won’t be surprised if it turned out that the drug dealers also used it. This raises a perfectly reasonable question.
    What do the relevant authorities do? What does the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the counterterrorism department do there?
    If this is terror, then at least the power structures should resign at least.
    1. Cook
      Cook 17 February 2017 19: 19
      +9
      Have you ever been on the other side of the fence at the airport? Apparently not, if you write about it as a passage yard. As a rule, if some kind of jamb of airport security services becomes known, it is mainly the result of a provocation of inspecting supervisory authorities. As for the loading displacement and the subsequent critical change in the alignment of the aircraft, I practically do not remember any such cases on the Tu-154. Regarding the possible errors of the crew, I also had to repeatedly participate in the investigation of aircraft accidents. And believe me, mistakes happen, and much more often than we would like. By the way, if the human factor is called as one of the reasons, this does not mean the automatic guilt of the pilots. The fact is that the cause of the catastrophic consequences can and often is the psychophysical state of the crew members. And there are such types of errors, such as for example errors of perception, visual illusions, errors in the transmission of information, etc., which a person makes unintentionally and involuntarily. I had such a case: as a flight engineer-instructor, I performed a practical work test in the air to assign 1st grade (!!!) to one of my colleagues on the An-74 system. The first flight, we carried out the distillation of the aircraft from one of the airport near Moscow in Vnukovo. Take off wasteland, with a small remaining fuel. After tearing off and cleaning the chassis, making sure that the person under investigation works calmly and competently, I was distracted by my own manipulations with the air conditioning shield. At an altitude of 50 meters, the captain gave the command to “turn off the lights, turn off” and then I heard the inspector dashingly report: “I understand, I clean the flaps”, and before I blinked, he already “pulled” the flaps for cleaning. Here you need to understand that if the flap lever is switched to cleaning or release, it must not be touched until the previous action has ended. In general, we removed the flaps, and then I, as the person responsible for the actions of the inspected, heard a lot of interesting things about myself. To the question, in fact, he did this, the testee said that he heard that the captain ordered the flaps to be removed. To my question about the fact that before cleaning the mechanization of the wing, it is necessary to make sure that the height along the PB is not lower than 200 m, and the speed is 270 - 290 km / h, he just looked at me with honest blue eyes and shrugged. Naturally, he had to forget about the first class for a while. But in order to be eligible for the assignment of the 1st class, the specialist must have a raid of at least 4000 hours. You know, everyone is mistaken, this is unfortunately human nature, but more experienced ones have less chance of making mistakes, plus they always work for their early detection and elimination of consequences. But this does not mean that they are never mistaken.
      1. alone
        alone 17 February 2017 19: 54
        +3
        Actually, about 163 violations in 20 days, including the truck that did not pass the inspection, it was not me, but the author who wrote. Apparently he has irrefutable evidence of this.

        As for the fact that if I was at the airport on the other side of the fence, I personally do not have such an admission, and they will not let me go in for a cannon shot. It should be like that in a normally guarded special facility.

        As for mistakes, no one is safe from them. Not only God is wrong.
      2. bk316
        bk316 17 February 2017 19: 55
        +6
        Write, do not write, everything will be like peas on a wall.

        People simply can’t imagine how everything is arranged for security and investigation.
        I myself am not in the industry, so when I was attracted to the investigation at a very mature age, I walked with square eyes for a week - I learned so much new in a few years.

        But most people are they, they write about things in which they don’t understand anything at all and feed each other in such a process, climbing further and further into a quagmire of obscurantism.
        What can I say about closed areas, even if, for example, computers have just feverish nonsense ...

        And about your case, excuse me, it was not in vain that you were expressed for being distracted, this is a classic: when people examine people often hear what they are not told. This is how the brain works. In training, I managed to shoot from the howitzer before the team. This is called heard to myself so heard.
      3. iouris
        iouris 18 February 2017 13: 09
        +1
        Quote: Cook
        The cause of the catastrophic consequences, and can often be, is the psychophysical state of the crew

        According to some studies, the likelihood of an accident in the period from 00 to 5 hours is two orders of magnitude higher than in the daytime. Therefore, in the EU from 20 to 8 hours road transport is prohibited. The flight was planned and occurred at the most unfavorable time for the crew. Why?
  21. Radikal
    Radikal 17 February 2017 21: 33
    +5
    Everything can be much more banal, simpler, and even worse - a shot from MANPADS from the water, from a simple motor boat, or even a row boat. If we allow such an opportunity, and it most likely was, then the silence of officials is not surprising. Imagine, in a special area, what Sochi is, and it is special (you yourself know why), and suddenly this .... How do you like the version? sad
  22. vitaliy707
    vitaliy707 17 February 2017 23: 58
    0
    Quote: novel xnumx
    they will say (maybe)
  23. Region39
    Region39 18 February 2017 02: 15
    +1
    Blinking ... !!! Another speculation on the topic ...... Again, a bunch of experts, again high-ranking sources .... a sea of ​​speculation and no specifics.
  24. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 18 February 2017 04: 08
    +1
    What's this ??? -A list of what needs to be done at airports, where are the reasons? or another chatter.
  25. Charond
    Charond 18 February 2017 09: 09
    +1
    The fact that this terrorist attack has long been clear and this is only one link in the chain. Remember the fire at the BOD ,, Kerch '', rags supposedly forgotten by someone in the assembled rockets ... This is a deliberate wrecking of all kinds of Novodvorsky ... These foreigners live in Russia and hate Russia ...
    1. doework
      doework 19 February 2017 14: 34
      +1
      Sloth, spitting and gouging are the number one, two and three enemies!
      1. Charond
        Charond 20 February 2017 02: 23
        0
        No, this is not gouging, but the deliberate wrecking of patriots of foreign states living in Russia.
  26. Playerman
    Playerman 20 February 2017 18: 19
    0
    And for me it seems so: They already know everything, just need to stretch time and formulate the reason for plankton. I work in a flaw detection laboratory. An analysis of the tragedy does not take such a heap of time. And on pipelines and tanks there are no recorders. And if I'm not mistaken, there are no film recorders, only electronics breaks.