Spanish newspaper: frigate "Admiral Juan de Bourbon" in the Black Sea was watched by a pair of Su-24

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A pair of Russian Su-24 bombers watched the Spanish frigate “Admiral Juan de Bourbon” in the Black Sea; planes flew around the ship at a low altitude, reports RIA News Post ABC newspaper.



According to a Spanish newspaper referring to a military source, the “incident” (meaning the appearance of Russian aircraft) occurred after the international exercise “Sea Shield-2017”, when the frigate was in international waters.

“Close observation by Russian aircraft is a normal practice of operations in this sea zone”, - noted the source publication.

The agency specifies that the “Admiral Juan de Bourbon frigate is part of the second permanent naval group of NATO under the command of Germany.” The crew of the ship - 200 people.

Earlier, Pentagon spokesperson Michel Baldans expressed concern about the passage of Russian aircraft with transponders turned off next to the destroyer Porter.

The Russian Defense Ministry, in turn, said that there were no such incidents on February 10. The ministry also noted that all flights of the Russian aviation "Are made in accordance with international rules and safety requirements."

Recall that in the exercise "Sea Shield-2017" 16 ships and 10 aircraft from NATO 7 countries, as well as about 2,8 thousand soldiers, were involved.
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  1. +11
    16 February 2017 17: 00
    And what has Spain forgotten here ...? We are warning yet ...
    In Soviet times, too arrogant American ships were literally rammed from the Black Sea by rams ...
    1. +9
      16 February 2017 17: 14
      It would be strange that we would not look, they hang around under our noses and want us to be silent.
      1. +2
        16 February 2017 17: 24
        Quote: cniza
        It would be strange that we would not look, they hang around under our noses and want us to be silent.

        All right, this is our ... this ... how is it ... the area of ​​responsibility in! indulge with matches a fire on board there or they can drown and who will save !? h.ohly chtol wassat
      2. +1
        16 February 2017 22: 34
        Quote: cniza
        It would be trance, so that we would not look, they hang around under our noses and want us to be silent.

        It is strange that ours did not write that this "bourbon" looked "unfriendly." (see about our Tu-160)
    2. +1
      16 February 2017 17: 20
      Quote: Political Department
      And what has Spain forgotten here ...? We are warning yet ...

      International waters, and Meehan will not ask you, and they will do it right!
      Who are "we? you?
      1. +3
        16 February 2017 18: 40
        Quote: Burbon
        Quote: Political Department
        And what has Spain forgotten here ...? We are warning yet ...

        International waters, and Meehan will not ask you, and they will do it right!
        Who are "we? you?

        In vain you rejoice ... We, this we, cannot destroy us ... soldier
        1. 0
          16 February 2017 19: 42
          Quote: Political Department
          In vain rejoice ..

          where am i happy I am sad to read your posts urging everyone to kill
          Quote: Political Department
          We, this we, cannot destroy us ..

          it’s easy to destroy, and not only you (us), anyone, nuclear weapons exist for this
    3. +11
      16 February 2017 17: 24
      Quote: Political Department
      And what has Spain forgotten here ...?

      The question must be posed with a rib-WHAT HUAN DOES HE DO THERE?
      1. 0
        16 February 2017 18: 32
        and I wonder why all the troughs of waterfowl are bombers nightmares? and not there soo 30
        1. +2
          16 February 2017 18: 37
          Quote: activator
          and I wonder why all the troughs of waterfowl are bombers nightmares? and not there soo 30

          Well, about the 34th ... he can carry the RCC on himself ... and in the near future the 30th Bramos will be able to carry ...
          1. 0
            16 February 2017 20: 18
            Quote: NEXUS
            Well, about the 34th ... he can carry the RCC on himself ... and in the near future the 30th Bramos will be able to carry ...

            Well, soo 34 is not even noticed in this, but soo 24 just in all the incidents and shine, why are they?
            1. +3
              16 February 2017 20: 39
              Quote: activator
              Well, soo 34 is not even noticed in this, but soo 24 just in all the incidents and shine, why are they?

              Well, in the nomenclature of weapons of the SU-24 there are X-35 anti-ship missiles ... while the SU-24 itself is a rather old plane, and the new SU-30,35,34 ... apparently they do not want to be irradiated by the destroyer radar. I see such an explanation.
        2. 0
          16 February 2017 19: 21
          Because "waterfowl troughs" are included in the tasks of bombers.
          1. +3
            16 February 2017 20: 40
            Quote: Orionvit
            Because "waterfowl troughs" are included in the tasks of bombers.

            Not anymore ... air-based anti-ship missiles are already capable of carrying not only bombers ... hi
          2. 0
            16 February 2017 21: 02
            Quote: NEXUS
            Well, in the nomenclature of weapons of the SU-24 there are X-35 anti-ship missiles ...

            Quote: Orionvit
            Because "waterfowl troughs" are included in the tasks of bombers.

            Well, since they seem to fly without anything and they’re clearly not going to bomb the hedgehog, but they could just scare them with something new.
            Quote: NEXUS
            SU-30,35,34 ... apparently they do not want them to be irradiated by the destroyer radar. I see this

            Well, su 27 I think this relic is already known to everyone.
            1. +2
              16 February 2017 21: 11
              Quote: activator
              Well, su 27 I think this relic is already known to everyone.

              Gliders are different, the coating is different, even the temperature of the nozzle is different ... And the SU-27 is more for intercepting air targets ...
            2. 0
              16 February 2017 22: 43
              Quote: activator
              they could just scare something new.

              Our concern for the ecology of the Black Sea. You’ll scare them as a joke, and they are like that American frigate, obroz ... And then all this r ... will be beaten to the coast of Crimea. How then to swim?
        3. 0
          17 February 2017 01: 19
          Quote: activator
          and I wonder why all the troughs of waterfowl are bombers nightmares? and not there soo 30

          The Su-24 has a reconnaissance modification ("P" - if I'm not mistaken), maybe it’s them who fly the ships ..?
    4. +1
      16 February 2017 17: 38
      Quote: Political Department
      And what has Spain forgotten here ...?

      The same as our ships off the coast of Spain.
      In general, it’s possible for the Spaniards in the World Cup - we used their base in Ceuta when we rotated the ships in Middle-earth. smile
      1. +4
        16 February 2017 18: 18
        Quote: Alexey RA
        In general, it’s possible for the Spaniards in the World Cup - we used their base in Ceuta when we rotated the ships in Middle-earth.

        And what howl rose in the world ..? Here in the Black Sea is a completely different matter ... They sailed to Russia, as part of NATO. So let not be offended later, if that ...
        1. +1
          16 February 2017 18: 21
          Quote: Political Department
          And what howl rose in the world ..?

          Another one - Spain was then accused of almost betraying the interests of democracy and the NATO bloc. smile
          Quote: Political Department
          Here in the Black Sea is a completely different matter ... They sailed to Russia, as part of NATO. So let not be offended later, if that ...

          Well yes. well yes ... ours valiant scouts and their treacherous spies. smile
      2. +2
        16 February 2017 19: 26
        Well, Russian ships off the coast of Spain were passing, so to speak, swimming, but what do the Spaniards do in the closed Black Sea? It is clear that it was not of their own free will, but only by order of the NATO command, but still. Let them not complain, since they have sailed to the shores of Russia, the owner must definitely see who is spinning at the gate.
    5. 0
      16 February 2017 22: 37
      Political department
      And what has Spain forgotten here ...? We are warning yet ...

      Nothing that Spain is in NATO? No matter what the mockery of NATO may be, their members have some kind of obligations towards each other ... And then, investing in the structure and not taking part in the exercises ...
      Well, about the same as we are in PACE - we paid, but they kicked us out ...
      In Spain, grandmas and decisions to take part in joint exercises apparently counted.
      Nothing terrible happened.
      1. +3
        17 February 2017 01: 47
        the frigate "Admiral Juan de Bourbon" in the Black Sea was watched by a pair of Su-24

        It would be strange if I had not watched
  2. +7
    16 February 2017 17: 01
    Well, if you’re scared ... why then drive to our shores !? am
    1. +6
      16 February 2017 17: 13
      Actually, the Spaniards (and not only them) were not called to the Black Sea. And with intruders, you yourself know what happens ... How are the unbalanced mattresses doing? Already do not rattle at night? wassat
      1. +1
        16 February 2017 17: 21
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        In fact, the Spaniards (and not only them) in the Black Sea, no one called

        and us to the shores of Spain? did you call, or is Romania not a member of NATO?
        1. +6
          16 February 2017 17: 32
          Oh how! Have you seen where Romania is in the World Cup and where is Russia? And look at the map where the Spanish port of Ceuta is located (I will tell you - the Spanish enclave in Morocco) and do not be too lazy to search the wide spaces in the vast spaces otherwise the ships of the Northern Fleet can go into the Mediterranean Sea.
          1. +1
            16 February 2017 17: 40
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Have you seen where Romania is

            I will say more, I not only saw, I often went there
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            how else the ships of the Northern Fleet can go into the Mediterranean Sea.

            and what did the ships of the Russian Navy from Middle-earth forget? did you call them? with people like you in your language
            1. +5
              16 February 2017 17: 49
              Burbon what did the ships of the Russian Navy with the Middle Sea forget? did you call them? with people like you in your language

              Excuse me, what planet have you flown from? And the SF ships were supposed to go on foot to Syria? And the fact that the Russian Armed Forces are in Syria on absolutely legal grounds is that you, I hope, will not dispute?
              1. 0
                16 February 2017 18: 21
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                Excuse me, what planet have you flown from? And the SF ships were supposed to go on foot to Syria?

                and in Ukraine they are the same by invitation and in Romania as well in Bulgaria as well. any questions?
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                And the fact that the Russian Armed Forces are in Syria on absolutely legal grounds is that you, I hope, will not dispute?

                Sun. Yes, but through the waters and the sky, Nato, well, except Iran-Iraq-Syria, so you don’t need to shed tears, so what’s up? what hysteria? What is our scout doing off the coast of the United States? why don’t we hysteria about this, where is Shoigu looking? recall the scout urgently!
                1. +6
                  16 February 2017 18: 28
                  Quote: Burbon
                  well come in and what? what hysteria? What is our scout doing off the coast of the United States? why don’t we hysteria about this, where is Shoigu looking? recall the scout urgently!

                  In my opinion, you hysteria with the Spaniards and mattresses. Maybe it's time to calm down?
                  1. 0
                    16 February 2017 21: 16
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    In my opinion, you hysteria with the Spaniards and mattresses. Maybe it's time to calm down?

                    fool I’m just reassuring you, because you are in a panic from the Spanish frigate Bourbon, because you write why he is here, who called him, that he forgot here, and I calmly explain everything to you
            2. +8
              16 February 2017 18: 05
              Quote: Burbon
              I will say more, I not only saw, I often went there

              This makes me happy. Yes
              Quote: Burbon
              and what did the ships of the Russian Navy from Middle-earth forget?

              Have you forgotten? request With memory something you have a colleague.
              Quote: Burbon
              you called them

              A counter question, are you? wink
              Quote: Burbon
              with people like you in your language

              Dear with what such, oh do not be rude, it is better with facts, facts and arguments. Yes
              Quote: Burbon
              International waters, and Meehan will not ask you

              Oh, you, a colleague, you are talking to you, you are a well-mannered person. Respectfully, Colleague. hi
              1. 0
                16 February 2017 19: 49
                Quote: vovanpain
                Have you forgotten? With memory something you have a colleague.

                or you? Turks, Romanians, Bulgarians - NATO, I am silent about Georgia or Ukraine, and each of these countries could officially invite a NATO member.
                Quote: vovanpain
                Dear with such, oh don't be rude, better with facts, facts and
                arguments.

                there is one fact, if they are near the bourgeoisie - the fiend of hell - if we are angels - they translate them there legally, we must put up with this and respond as adequately

                Quote: vovanpain
                Oh e, on you, colleague, on you On

                Quote: vovanpain
                Oh e, on you, colleague, on you
                1. +7
                  16 February 2017 20: 30
                  Quote: Burbon
                  Turks, Romanians, Bulgarians - NATO

                  Colleague, remember, dear remember Yes
                  Quote: Burbon
                  there is one fact, if they are near the bourgeoisie - the fiend of hell - if we are angels - they translate them there legally, we must put up with this and respond as adequately

                  So a colleague, in your own words, we in the Black Sea, in the Baltic, in the Arctic, in the Pacific Ocean are absolutely legal and the bourgeoisie must put up with this. Yes And in the Middle-earth, we are also, after all, on legal grounds. At the invitation and agreement of the Syrian government, legally elected and recognized by all UN members, the bourgeoisie grind his teeth with his teeth, but humble themselves. Yes Well, what about the angels, request No one is an angel now.
                  Quote: Burbon
                  respond as adequately

                  So they kind of answer that we are escorting them and accompanying them, that they are us. And about 70 years old it seems like accompanying us. Routine. wink hi
                  1. +2
                    16 February 2017 21: 20
                    Quote: vovanpain
                    colleague, in your own words, we on the Black Sea, on the Baltic, in the Arctic, in the Pacific Ocean are absolutely legal

                    good
                    Quote: vovanpain
                    So they kind of answer that we are escorting them and accompanying them, that they are us. And, like 70 years, it seems like we accompany them. Routine

                    here I am about it, well, the Spaniard came in and what? Yes, violet, but now we won’t leave the Mediterranean
            3. +1
              16 February 2017 19: 31
              You were not recruited by chance in Romania there, the Romanian special services, or rather Ukrainian? lol Your rhetoric is very similar. Who called whom and where, will understand without us. Here are just Russia about the flight of its ships with NATO aircraft, tantrums are not satisfied.
              1. 0
                16 February 2017 21: 24
                Quote: Orionvit
                You weren’t recruited there in Romania

                no, but it’s a pity I would touch the gypsies
                Quote: Orionvit
                Who called whom and where, will understand without us.

                then what kind of hysteria?
                Quote: Orionvit
                That's just Russia about the flight of its ships with NATO aircraft,
                tantrums are not satisfied

                Well, do not dissemble, our MO says about Kuzyu, that they flew around and accompanied the crowd and that they laughed about the smoke, and even the pl nearby got in the way or didn’t you read these articles on the resource?
          2. 0
            16 February 2017 23: 11
            bouncyhunter
            As far as I heard. there Ukraine takes part in the exercises. I don’t know what and how - but to provide my World Cup water area - does it seem to have a right or not?
            Why hysteria then?
            Well, imagine that our ships accept joint exercises with boats or Cuban air mattresses - how would you comment?
            Harping?
            Well, then what?
            You are strange people
      2. +2
        16 February 2017 17: 32
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Actually, the Spaniards (and not only them) were not called to the Black Sea.

        In fact, the Spaniards behave in their own way, as a state - a member of NATO. Suffice it to recall howling Europe. and not only howled at the call of our ships in the Spanish ports!
        1. +5
          16 February 2017 17: 40
          Yes, howled. Despite the existing agreement with Spain ... As a result, what? Spain had to abandon mutually beneficial cooperation under the pressure of mattresses.
          1. +4
            17 February 2017 01: 59
            Quote: Burbon
            well come in and what? what hysteria? What is our scout doing off the coast of the United States? why don’t we hysteria about this, where is Shoigu looking? recall the scout urgently!

            We have already dealt with this matter. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, "the large reconnaissance ship SSV-80" Baltic "went to sea to patrol the port of Zarubino but got lost in the fog and ended up in the Gavaev area. So it's okay.
            1. +3
              17 February 2017 02: 11
              Almost a pun: the Americans in the Baltic countries took pictures against the background of the ancient Russian fortress of Ivangorod, and the Russians in the Baltic states "took pictures" against the backdrop of 50 US military ships and more than 200 aircraft.
  3. +2
    16 February 2017 17: 02
    Juan Bourbon was nearby ...
    1. 0
      16 February 2017 17: 22
      Quote: AID.S
      Juan Bourbon was nearby ...

      I am always near
  4. 0
    16 February 2017 17: 06
    Spaniards dream of an "Invincible Armada"? It will end badly for them.
  5. +1
    16 February 2017 17: 06
    Spanish newspaper: frigate "Admiral Juan de Bourbon" in the Black Sea was watched by a pair of Su-24

    After the “Kuzyu” refused to refuel, there really were more amigo people watching you ... You just didn’t notice ...
  6. +2
    16 February 2017 17: 07
    it would not be a bad thing to make the RCC returned to the airport, so as not to drive the Su24 pilot, fly past the PCR ship at a speed of 3000 km / h and return to the airfield or land by parachute laughing
    1. +10
      17 February 2017 06: 21
      She may “forget” that she needs to return. And so the pilots "warmed up", looked at the "target" with the "naked eye", so to speak - in real conditions. Everything is better than at the target range. True, now the “Admiral Juan de Bourbon” knows that it can be renamed the “Hana de Bourbon” wink
  7. +7
    16 February 2017 17: 11
    And what about Spain? A member of NATO, everyone has gone, and they have gone ... I would raise the question more broadly: what ALL NATO needs at the borders of our sea and land?
  8. +1
    16 February 2017 17: 13
    Operation ,, Bullfight "
  9. +1
    16 February 2017 17: 14
    Watch the bombers? This is a heavy non-maneuverable aircraft. This one is like an elephant lurking in the bushes.

    Transponders are not provided for in the design of Russian aircraft at all, as far as I know. So it’s strange to talk about turning them on or off.
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      1. 0
        16 February 2017 17: 26
        Well, from the article it’s not clear which one. It is written that the bomber.
        1. 0
          16 February 2017 17: 35
          It was enough that it was a Russian plane. And howl and concern will be guaranteed.
    2. 0
      16 February 2017 17: 25
      Transponders? What is it about? If we are not talking about civil aviation routes. Transponders are needed for international GA routes so as not to annoy GA pilots.
      1. 0
        16 February 2017 17: 28
        I do not know where to turn on transponders according to the rules. I wrote that Russian combat aircraft, in principle, are not equipped with them. There is none of them.
        1. 0
          16 February 2017 17: 34
          If they are not equipped, then this is not necessary for them. The transponder is needed for the GA, so that the TCAS system of civilian airliners works and shows pilots dangerous situations in the air.
    3. +1
      16 February 2017 17: 28
      transponders - aircraft transponders СО69, СОМ, etc. still stand on all the ancient military sides, especially on modern ones.
    4. 0
      16 February 2017 17: 40
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Watch the bombers? This is a heavy non-maneuverable aircraft. This one is like an elephant lurking in the bushes.

      Transponders are not provided for in the design of Russian aircraft at all, as far as I know. So it’s strange to talk about turning them on or off.

      Do not make us the brains of Rabinovich!
    5. +4
      16 February 2017 17: 44
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Watch the bombers?

      It could be a Su-24MR reconnaissance out of 43 omshaps. Visually distinguishing a bomber from a scout is not so simple.
  10. +1
    16 February 2017 17: 21
    Violated the state border of Spain? I mean flying over the frigate of Spain? No conventions prohibit flying nearby.
  11. +2
    16 February 2017 17: 23
    Yes, everything is fine. There has always been such a practice, even on land, even at sea. And sometimes ours and penalties received for extra tricks (pure curiosity).
    1. +1
      16 February 2017 18: 39
      Quite right, the Lituns traditionally loved to paint. As a child, a cadet of an aviation school (it seems to be Kaczynski) came to the village and rubbed the boys with what kind of excellent he was, etc., which bouncers say in such cases
  12. +4
    16 February 2017 17: 30
    gentlemen-comrades .. do not turn our site into a site of the yellow press .. I do not understand the semantic load of such posts. idiots-quackers .. really want something interesting, informative to read .. insulting shame. (C) !!
  13. +1
    16 February 2017 17: 35
    The Spaniards forgot to indicate that the planes watched them from under the water. ..
    1. +10
      17 February 2017 06: 29
      But did they really know that they were also watching from under the water? If they knew, then the list of complaints would feature “Varshavyanka”. request
  14. 0
    16 February 2017 17: 51
    Something all NATO members will severely hurt, as soon as our VKS beside themselves, they all need to give some kind of sedative instead of beer and wine, and in the same quantities that they consume in a bar on the beach. Well, our planes looked at them, showed themselves - they waved their wings and left, what to cry at once ?! lol
  15. 0
    16 February 2017 18: 22
    “Close observation by Russian airplanes is a normal practice in this marine zone,” the source said.
    It’s bad that these guys are on their boat in the Black Sea, but it’s good that they are at least adequate ...
    And this is strange, the Americans announced about FOUR of our aircraft in that area ... Spaniards, that they didn’t notice everyone?
    1. 0
      16 February 2017 22: 44
      Fear has big eyes...
      Four aircraft - and in what row?
      And other pearls from amers ...
  16. 0
    16 February 2017 18: 23
    "airplanes flew around the ship at a low altitude" to consider what kind of Juan de Bourbon is approximate to us, and at the same time to show himself
  17. 0
    16 February 2017 18: 24
    What do you call the ship so it is ....
  18. +1
    16 February 2017 19: 00
    Quote: NEXUS
    The question must be posed with a rib-WHAT HUAN DOES HE DO THERE?

    ------------------------------
    Peel double bourbon. Is it not clear? drinks
  19. +1
    16 February 2017 19: 40
    Quote: Rabinovich
    Watch the bombers? This is a heavy non-maneuverable aircraft. This one is like an elephant lurking in the bushes.

    In vain you are so about the SU-24. The aircraft is quite maneuverable (if without a full bomb load), with variable wing geometry, and also structurally adapted to flights at extremely low altitudes.
  20. +1
    16 February 2017 20: 43
    Quote: NEXUS
    No longer ... air-based anti-ship missiles are already capable of carrying not only bombers.

    What was the question, that was the answer. A means of destruction of surface targets, a lot of which can carry, and a lot of where they can be placed.
  21. 0
    16 February 2017 21: 00
    For the region of the Mediterranean and Black Seas in the structure of NATO, there is a standing naval group number two (group number one conducts operations in the East Atlantic). The group includes nine ships from seven countries of the alliance. The flagship is the German frigate "Saxony", it also includes Canadian and Romanian frigates, a Turkish corvette, two patrol ships from Albania and the UK, as well as three Greek ones: a small missile ship, a gunboat and a mine ship.
    Standing group number two is located in Naples and in early February took part in the joint exercises of Ukraine and NATO countries “Sea Shield 2017” in the Black Sea. According to Interfax-Ukraine, 16 ships, one submarine and ten aircraft took part in the exercises. The US Navy was represented by the destroyer Porter, which is part of the 6th US Navy, having a permanent parking position in Spain.
    Read more at RBC:
    http://www.rbc.ru/politics/16/02/2017/58a41b3e9a7
    94717de06e9ea
  22. 0
    17 February 2017 00: 03
    And these are the things that they forgot there, pokatushki staged?
  23. 0
    17 February 2017 05: 22
    Not used to it yet, they live in the past, so far they are indignant.
  24. 0
    17 February 2017 07: 29
    And why the outdated Su-24 and not, for example, su-25 \ 29 \ 30
  25. +1
    17 February 2017 08: 21
    A pair of Russian Su-24 bombers watched the Spanish frigate Admiral Juan de Bourbon

    It’s a little expensive to drive the 24th every time - you just need to hang a small drone for observation and presence.
    And on the fuselage write "But Pasaran."

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