The fight in the Crimea between the oligarchs and patriots. Results of the investigation

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The fight in the Crimea between the oligarchs and patriots. Results of the investigation


The Crimean perturbations that attracted attention around the postponed (possibly forever) construction of the Patriot park near Sevastopol forced us to immerse themselves in the situation. And that's what happened at the exit.



To begin, let's reflect: and whether it needs this park in Sevastopol? And look at this issue not from the point of view of Crimean Sevastopol as a whole and in particular, but in terms of higher. Not in reproach to Crimeans, but as a result of communication, I formed the opinion that 80% of Crimean residents are only interested in the number of tourists who will come to Crimea in the summer.

However, the practice of the last two summer seasons showed that the Crimea, as it were, is not at all a competitor to Thailand, Turkey and Egypt. What at prices, what level of service. Prices are primarily interested in our compatriots, although the level of comfort, while remaining at the Ukrainian level, too.

In order for the Crimea to become, as in the old days, the pearl of Russia, huge sums of money must and must be thrust in there. So that people, having rested in the Crimea, did not ask questions like “I did not understand what these prices are for” on the forums.

Money, of course, will be. But it is not a secret that the Crimean authorities simply cannot master them yet. And it is sad. But this has already been said a lot, I will not repeat.

Sevastopol. Hero City, the city of Russian glory is not a single war. Does the city need a project like the Patriot park? Definitely. Let not on the scale of Alabino, but nonetheless. Moreover, Sevastopol is the best place to implement such a project.

And, most importantly, this project would cost Sevastopol almost nothing. Shoigu planned to invest three billion in this business. The amount, you know ... If you do not cut, much can be done with such money.

But why are the Sevastopol residents so fiercely (seemingly) against the park?

Yes, they did not speak. They, in principle, almost all the same. There will be a park, there will be no park ... A very strange position. Okay, let's not take the Sevastopol residents, who do not care. There are those who care. Who knows how to look at tomorrow. They are, and it is beautiful.

On Mount Gasfort, we wrote.

Excursion to Gasfortu, where there will be no Patriot park

Indeed, it could turn out very well, even if the neighborhood with bikers. Here I must say that in the confrontation of oligarchs and I on the side of the patriots patriots, even if bikers surgery.

But let's talk about the oligarchs and the officials, who got up against the park on Gasfort. More precisely, about one oligarch. About Aleksey Chalom.

Chaly is an oligarch. Not for money, by the amount of funds in the accounts it is far from ours. First and foremost, the oligarch is a man of business, practically standing above all conventions such as patriotism and citizenship.

Claims to Chalyi about his business in Ukraine from time to time appeared in the media and on the Internet, but ... without a spark. Meanwhile, here is evidence that Chaly conducts his business in Ukraine. Although for some reason it denies.

Who are you with, Mr. Chaly? (photo of documents)

Doing business with Ukrainian partners is not a crime. Especially since it all started, God knows when. But why deny it? As well as tight interaction with the "Party of Regions".

For the first time, Chaly “punctured” back in 2015, when he was still chairman of the Legislative Assembly, when he unexpectedly spoke out against the nationalization of the Sevastopol Marine Factory, which belonged to Poroshenko. Obviously, Chaly understood very well that Poroshenko could very well respond in the same way and squeeze out something from Chalovsky assets and enterprises in Ukraine.

The unexpected departure of Chaly from the post of Speaker of the Legislative Assembly is caused by both possible consequences and a very unexpected bummer. In Ukraine, the Crimean Assembly of the Crimea was in charge of the distribution of land. In Russia, this feeder was taken away, which means there was nothing to catch. So now Chaly is just an oligarch in the status of a deputy.

In general, Alexei Mikhailovich should not be regarded as a Crimean, Russian, citizen and patriot. First of all, he is a businessman. And - a good businessman. So it makes sense to build on this. Dollar - it is international today. And, by the way, this approach provides an answer to many questions, including on the Patriot park.

Chalomu need land resources for the implementation of the tourism infrastructure development strategy developed by his private Agency for Strategic Development of Sevastopol developed in Ukraine.

By the way, Chalyu no one refused to allocate land. Just offered a little in the wrong place, which he chose. And he claimed the land at the seashore, which even in those days belonged to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

But the most interesting thing is that in the implementation of these long-term projects, the Crimean representatives of “PR” “divorced” Chaly for a good cause. Apparently, promising for him serious preference. The usual Ukrainian “contract”: Chaly does business, and PR representatives lobby his interests. Apparently, the contract was at a very high level, and I did not expect a frank scammer.

Chaly acted like a man of his word. This is how the 35 coastal battery museum appeared. Everything can be read on the official website of the museum.

The history of the creation of the Museum Historical and Memorial Complex to the heroic defenders of Sevastopol "35-I coastal battery"

“In 2007, the creation of the Museum Historical and Memorial Complex for the heroic defenders of Sevastopol" 35-I coastal battery "begins. Thousands of people — specialists of various professions — took part in its construction. The memorial complex was created with non-state funds. The main part of the cost of the design, construction, maintenance and development of the complex was taken over by the enterprises of the industrial group "Tavrida-Elektrik" (General Director A. M. Chaly). "

The case made a businessman Chaly? A business. Standing applause, Alexey Mikhailovich is really well done.

Moreover, the Chalov’s “Tavrida Electric” is still funded by the museum. Which, by the way, people can visit for free, and for excursions also do not take money.

So, the businessman Chaly did business, it remains only to receive dividends. And as a dividend was considered a project similar to "Balaclava Green", which was developed on the order of the oligarch Novinsky.

"Balaclava Green"

A complex of 600 cottages, artificial lakes, golf courses, horse riding clubs ... In short, everything that was poked into Zaldostanov’s face.

The project, you know, did not go, and then there was the same incident and “Crimea sailed”. And along with it, and hope for a good jackpot in Balaclava. And then the “Night Wolves” appeared with the idea of ​​a park, on which nothing could be earned.

In general, it turned out the standard force majeure. However, the museum complex has already been built and is functioning. And Gasfort leaves the hands swiftly, like a bike on a highway. And really need to do something to protect their money.

Businessman Chaly and started doing.

Which one of the media howled first? Not a secret. Chalovsky “Outpost” and “Note”. Do not believe? And check. The outpost is run by a certain Nikolaev. The one that went to be elected under the slogan "Companion Chaly - go to the elections!"

Did the oligarch Chaly have the means to simply buy a certain number of “local residents” to participate in public hearings? Funny, is not it?

And in the end, such a noise arose that the Russian Defense Ministry decided to simply not get into this mess. No need - we will not build. Build on its territory. Then.

And Chaly and his team, upholding the idea of ​​the uselessness in Sevastopol on Mount Gasfort, the center of patriotic education, will probably return to the realization of the expired dream "monorail and amusement park." And cottages. Or maybe all in one project "Balaclava Green".

But the methods by which this is done, do not cause respect. Get acquainted with the video, which was assembled by those of Sevastopol, who want a "Patriot" and do not want a "Balaclava" with a monorail.

My webpage

It is worth paying attention to how the deputy of the Legislative Assembly, the chairman of the standing committee on urban planning and land issues Vyacheslav Gorelov behaves in the studio of Sevastopol television.

“I will read you a document, and that should be enough for you. And to show that this is really a document - the snout did not come out. ” Not a quote, but a free translation of Gorelov's deed.

You know, here in the Parliament is in the order of things. Together with the fight. Although it seems to be the Crimea - this is Russia ... Where do such ways come from?

In general, having plunged into the Sevastopol whirlwind, he made the following opinion: a new war begins there. The war between the locals who got into power and wanting to get preferences for participating in the “Russian spring”, and, in fact, “aliens” from the continent. And this war will be very, very serious.

A large and well-organized team of Chaly will insert many more sticks into the wheels, I'm sure. Everything is clear and understandable here, people want to live better than in Ukraine. And some, such as deputy Alexander Kulagin, the right hand of Chaly, are already publicly longing for Ukraine.

It is great that today they have no direct access to land resources. It is great that in this situation the opinions of Crimeans are not unanimous. There are those who are "for" and those who are "against."

But let's look like this: do we need, that is, Russia, Sevastopol as a cultural and historical center? I need it. This is a unique city, there is something to build on. And the Patriot park, whatever my attitude to his Alabinskiy brother (and it is very skeptical), is needed.

I don’t need him, not Sevastopol. Russia needs him. The place where the names of Suvorov, Kutuzov, Nakhimov, Kornilov, Istomin, the place of thousands of feats of Russian soldiers and sailors were intertwined, simply must receive at least one more embodiment of memory and history.

More precisely, just a place of worship. To all participants, the Turkish Wars, the Crimean, the Great Patriotic War. The same historical cluster as in Alabino.

Yes, and Historical Boulevard would be nice to bring in the divine form. In accordance with Russian standards. And then in fact some ukronischeta, and not a memorable place.

I agree, Sevastopol needs money from business projects, from tourism in the first place. But how to attract? As I understand it, the locals are still in some kind of iridescent misunderstanding of the situation that the sea, the sun and the faters at the price of a hotel room should be enough. Well, I am sure that this year will bring many surprises. By the way, by the way.

But who can tell how much patriotism costs? How much is love for the motherland? How much does memory cost? Yes, the one for which we are fighting today every day? And in which continue to try to spit individual organisms?

Here, of course, everyone has his own. Someone patriotism, measured in history and memory, someone in the number of papers with watermarks.

I do not impose my own opinion, but I think that all this gang of Chaly must be kept as far as possible both from power and from the ground. Sevastopol is our common heritage, and if it should have a Master, it’s definitely not an oligarch Chaly. Despite his merits and orders.

But in general, the farther from lawmaking and the executive will be people like Chaly, the better it will be for Russia. It may be objected that such businessmen are from the authorities in every city in bulk.

I agree. But probably, one should not compare the historical (and importantly, economic) value of Sevastopol and, for example, Tambov. If in Tambov tumble as much money as in Sevastopol, it will be three times more beautiful. But the historical value ... Alas, it does not buy anything.

And if we are talking about the restoration of the Crimea in general and of Sevastopol in particular, then there should be no place for games. We are doing this all over Russia, the Crimea will be unprofitable for a long time and existing on budget money. But who said that Russia is against recovery? But the restoration of taking into account the interests of Russia, and not the oligarch with a group of approximate.

P.S. But the fact that Sevastopol leaders failed Shoigu’s project suggests that someone doesn’t really see the banks. Or sees, but not Russian. And in vain ...
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  1. +38
    17 February 2017 15: 05
    A rotten article, no need to powder people’s brains, and pull pseudo-facts by the ears .. But it’s better not to mention the surgeon at all, the wrong level for solving state tasks. And let's judge people by real affairs, not gossip. And the whole country knows about these real affairs of Chaly
    1. +8
      17 February 2017 16: 04
      Well, do you, since you consider the Surgeon unworthy? I learned only in 2014, and the "Night Wolves" in the 90s beat different skinheads.
      1. +17
        17 February 2017 16: 45
        These merits as a result of internal graters between rockers, gopot and other groups do not pull on the right to intervene in public affairs and teach the Ministry of Defense, each cricket has its own .....
        1. +8
          17 February 2017 17: 18
          What government affairs did they intervene in? And why can not a public organization criticize the property relations of the Moscow Region? The showdown between the "gopota" (which you criticized in the kitchen at most) I led to the fact that the HB existed long before Putin, did not depend on the authorities and so learned that their patriotic orientation coincided with the state line.
          1. +12
            17 February 2017 18: 34
            I would better encourage the coinciding patriotic orientation of the working class, teachers and doctors. I have nothing against NV, especially when they are out of politics. It seems to me that these are not those ideals to be popularized on all media, and even to listen to their claims, because some, I think, were too starry.
            1. +4
              17 February 2017 23: 48
              Do you think that there are no teachers or doctors among HB ??
        2. +7
          17 February 2017 22: 10
          If the rockers "did not intervene in state affairs," then hell knows what would have ended up in the Crimea ... they were just the boiling point from the beginning.
          1. +2
            19 February 2017 02: 06
            What are you ?! "But the men didn’t know!" (from)
      2. 0
        19 February 2017 18: 26
        Quote: Maxim Sheludyakov
        and the "Night Wolves" in the 90s beat different skinheads.

        Skinheads? The "Night Wolves" earlier in the "charter" states that the color path to their club is closed, the "wolves" are essentially nationalists.
      3. +1
        19 February 2017 18: 28
        Quote: Maxim Sheludyakov
        times you consider the Surgeon unworthy?

        The surgeon from the army stole, dumped in Berlin, where he worked as a security guard in a bar.
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    3. +4
      17 February 2017 19: 46
      Personally, I don’t really like it when society is divided into “patriots” and other “unread”. A patriot in Russia is more than a worship of the padre (the pope was originally). I give a hint to our esteemed writing brothers on the topic: "Patriot is a citizen before." It is precisely in this gap that the liberoid cockroaches settled. This is where it is necessary to dabble in precisely patriotic chlorophos and knock out their parasitism on the feelings of citizens of love for the Motherland and the Fatherland. How can you be a citizen before if you are harassing your people and your homeland?
    4. +2
      18 February 2017 07: 26
      The mentality must be changed throughout the country. We want to live in the West, and to work as always, that is not to not give a damn, and at the same time to get good grandmothers.
      1. 0
        19 February 2017 18: 37
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        The mentality must be changed throughout the country. We want to live in the West, and to work as always, that is not to not give a damn, and at the same time to get good grandmothers.

        good
        We want a "Soviet" freebie with Western European salaries!
    5. +1
      19 February 2017 18: 31
      Quote: maxim947
      Rotten article

      "The Ministry of Defense did not participate and will not allow itself to be drawn into squabbles around the construction of the Patriot park in Sevastopol," Konashenkov said. Attempts to make the park an apple of discord, he called futile and shortsighted.
      The official representative of the Ministry of Defense emphasized that the project for the construction of the Patriot park involves a careful attitude to the environment and preservation of the historical appearance of the city. “It should be the pride and embodiment of the best expectations of Sevastopol and all Crimeans in order to serve the patriotic education of the young generation of Russians,” Konashenkov summed up.
      According to Kommersant at the end of the working week, the leader of the Night Wolves motorcyclist club, Alexander Zaldostanov (Surgeon), expressed his dissatisfaction with the position of the military, who announced their refusal to implement the Patriot park project near Gasfort Mountain in Sevastopol.
      Zaldostanov said that he did not believe in the refusal of the Ministry of Defense, and immediately promised that he would not allow the department to abandon this project. “I have good connections in the Ministry of Defense. I will force them not to move out. They will not be able to move out,” the biker said at a meeting with the Sevastopol branch of the Youth Union on February 2.
      The surgeon takes a lot on himself, he felt really cool!
    6. 0
      20 February 2017 17: 00
      I agree. Some kind of dirty ordering. KG / AM
      I suspect that by order of night wolves and others like them.
      Chaly is a hero!
      Thanks to him for the Crimea as part of the Russian Federation.
      Another points: according to “Balaklava-Green” - this is a draft of the sample of 2010 on behalf of the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Novinsky, why Chaly is being pulled here - is not clear.
      By nationalization - what kind of nonsense do they write?
      About the online media "Outpost" and "Note" is also nonsense, Chaly has nothing to do with them.
      In general, they do not like wolves in Sevastopol, and Chaly is respected.
  2. +19
    17 February 2017 15: 07
    What were things like ... First, Strelkov - “wants Maidan in Russia”, then Poklonskaya - “crystal baker”, now the turn has come to Chaly. Now he is an "oligarch" and almost an agent of Mr. Pedro ...
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    2. +3
      17 February 2017 19: 23
      Comrade libjvis, Natasha Poklonskaya was offended by some of us that she honors Emperor Nicholas2 and off. As for Chaly, not everything is clear: even on the pages of our review, the complaints of the Sevastopol themselves against Chaly have already slipped through. In my opinion, Roman doesn’t especially paint
      1. +24
        17 February 2017 20: 04
        Everything is certainly not without sin, but still ... Almost EVERYONE who started or was in the forefront of the Russian Spring suddenly found themselves in fierce zradniks, to use the Ukrainian terminology, and many of them finished very poorly. Some parted with their lives (Brain, Dremov, Motor, Bolotov), ​​others went into political and media oblivion (Gubarev, Bezler), others are trying to climb and break through the information blockade (Strelkov). The turn came to Chaly. THEY did not fit into the power, they are not like all our hypocrites, bureaucrats, deputies, oligarchs of all sizes and conditions. Here are people like Voronenkov and Maksakova, they are members of their elite club with a gold card and they will always be, and Chaly is not, and therefore they will wet him with all Putin's, sorry proletarian hatred, if only because he, a wealthy man, once put everything on the line, not for the gain, but for the idea ... And with this fact, Chaly will always be a stranger in our political elite, thinking only with the categories of offshore accounts and villas in Nice ...
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  3. +5
    17 February 2017 15: 47
    From the first call I won’t deal with this mess, but these lines are alarming ...
    "... In general, having plunged into the Sevastopol whirlwind, I made this opinion: a new one begins war. War between the locals who made their way to power and want to get preferences for participating in the “Russian spring”, and, in fact, “newcomers” from the continent. And this war will be very, very serious ... "
    There are plenty of people who want to "cut" everywhere, they are in the Crimea too, but to cut off the Crimea from Russia without washing, so skating ...
    There are such and they act. Anglo-American agents are working, they can use Chaly and the “sawyers” blindly ... Divide, bleed, conquer.
    Let's hope that the FSB reliably holds its hand on the Crimean pulse ...
    1. 0
      17 February 2017 16: 20
      1
      Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will receive a base and near rest for
      2.
      Not to reproach the Crimeans, but according to the results of the communication, I had the opinion that 80% of Crimean residents are only interested in the number of tourists who come to Crimea in the summer
      - this is the only way to live there.
      3.
      federal and global hotel business networks will win. Locals will receive consolation prizes.
      4. Aksenov (in the summer of 14g) said: the transition period will end with the construction of the bridge.
      This summer, all plots should be received, for a breakthrough in 18-19 years.
      Enough work for everyone. but to Russia.
      And previously calculated - they’ll leave for the trash, so they joined a huge country with a different mentality.
    2. +3
      17 February 2017 22: 39
      yeah, the FSB is able to saw the most decent organization in Russia
      1. 0
        19 February 2017 18: 32
        Quote: FLATERCOOL
        yeah, the FSB is able to saw the most decent organization in Russia

        To live in honey and not to eat honey? laughing
  4. +1
    17 February 2017 16: 59
    Strange information ....
  5. +4
    17 February 2017 17: 07
    I can not understand Sevastopol. Squabbles, clashes, confrontation of groups. Okay, when we were fighting against the dominance of the Ukaine, how could one explain the disputes that arose, the divergence in the tactics of the struggle, in the amount of demands on the Ukrainian authorities ... But after returning to their native harbor, it was time to put an end to endless conflicts. One gets the impression that the "state of struggle" has so deeply entered the flesh and blood of public figures that they simply cannot or don’t know how to achieve their goals by other, non-confrontational means. Uncompromising is simply surprising and alarming. At the same time, with deepest respect I treat A.M. Chaloma. He, like no other, defended Sevastopol and the interests of Sevastopol, financed the writing and publication of textbooks on Sevastopolovedenie, restored and turned the 35th battery into a grand memorial. Kind words to other figures. But not the ability to negotiate is surprising. Guards, Grieves. The common cause is suffering, which is the time to implement! Unlike Sevastopol, in the Crimea itself, there is a fairly uniform team of Aksenov-Konstantinov. There is no conflict.
    1. +1
      17 February 2017 18: 55
      I can not understand Sevastopol.

      Who is from Sevastopol, can you give an alternative point of view?
      1. +7
        18 February 2017 14: 29
        We believe in Chaly. Honest man . People working for him cannot say anything bad. Good work, good salary. Teaches students a scholarship from production, employment, talent selection. With wolves it’s not clear. And why are these two hundred and forty hectares near Balaklava next to the reservoir. And almost for free! Zach Sevastopol meeting was asked to submit a project plan. HB filed some nonsense. And this is the land of the city! And what remains for people in the city .A Patriot Park in the city will be built u. No one is against Patriot Park. But the cunning of individuals against.
        1. +2
          18 February 2017 16: 29
          No one is against Patriot Park. But the cunning of individuals against.

          All clear. And what's about: For the first time, Chaly “punctured” back in 2015, when he was still chairman of the Legislative Assembly, when he unexpectedly spoke out against the nationalization of the Sevastopol Marine Factory, which belonged to Poroshenko. Obviously, Chaly understood very well that Poroshenko could very well respond in the same way and squeeze out something from Chalovsky assets and enterprises in Ukraine.
          Speaking in dry language of numbers and documents? So who is right, or an ordering article? what
          1. +6
            18 February 2017 20: 04
            Speech at the nationalization of Sev. Pestilence. The plant was talking about the correctness of the procedures for the alienation of the plant from Poroshenko. It was about the need to do nationalization not with the help of revolutionary sailors and peasants, but with the help of the law. And according to the law, the plant could be taken away from Valtsman. He bought an SMZ named after Ordzhonikidze for a "box of vodka" from hungry hard workers and engineers. Remember the nineties! All these property certificates. Then they got rid of them for a glass and a crust of bread .. An article of ordering .. Designated! Now the new governor of Sevastopol Ovsyannikov (40 years old, smart girl !!) gets along well with Chaly. Sevastopol Ovsyannikova rated normally (after Nemenyaylo !!)
            1. +6
              18 February 2017 20: 12
              Now the new governor of Sevastopol Ovsyannikov (40 years old, smart girl !!) gets along well with Chaly. Sevastopol Ovsyannikova rated normally (after Nemenyaylo !!)

              Thank you, the picture is clear. hi
            2. +2
              19 February 2017 02: 28
              As far as I remember, there was such an “interesting movie”: the government was preparing documents for nationalization, which the deputies were supposed to adopt. It cooked for a long time and submitted for approval on the last or penultimate day, when this nationalization was still possible.
              And such a list, in which there were also small enterprises that were re-registered under Russian law (that is, it is illegal to nationalize them), but (here, perhaps, misunderstood) either those located on the territory subject to nationalization, or being subsidiaries of them ...

              In short: there it was necessary to deal with each enterprise separately, so as not to "break firewood". And for this one day was less than few.
              Deps howled what they cannot accept and what to do! But Nemenyaylo said that then he would do it, because he also had the right. ZS relieved sighed and threw this case into the house opposite.

              And the governor, naturally, also not wanting to incur problems with the law, announced the nationalization of the seafood plant ONLY, and the next day his media began to buzz about the fact that the Legislative Assembly refused to nationalize Ukrainian enterprises and the valiant governor managed to save at least the seafood plant at the last moment ( our oldest and largest enterprise, at the time of our return to Russia, which was almost at its last gasp).

              The setup was obvious. But who read only the sources glorifying оdmеI’ve scored and stoked Chaly in every possible way, I only heard: “Depots failed, but the admiral saved”.

              If something has lied (I am weak in legal subtleties, and the details are forgotten over time) - correct it.
              1. 0
                20 February 2017 17: 07
                Dzhurla, listen to you and do not understand the nationalization of the SMZ is good or not?
                Maybe it seems to me, but the AP, on a plausible pretext, stepped aside so that in the event that Pan Pedro would not be angry with them
                1. 0
                  21 February 2017 21: 47
                  It seems to you.
                  Nationalization of the SMZ is good. But if government officials prepared documents for other enterprises on time AND LIKELY, it would be even better.

                  But they did not work for the city, but for the then governor with an envoy.
    2. +2
      17 February 2017 21: 02
      Quote: Fagelov
      I can not understand Sevastopol. Squabbles, clashes, confrontation of groups.

      But what is incomprehensible? The essence of human nature expressed by a couple of proverbs - his own shirt is closer to the body; there are no such rakes to row from oneself. Some people warm their bodies with other people’s shirt and row to others, but these are few, because the person is weak. He takes care of his beloved more. And there’s one old English saying: the higher a monkey climbs a tree the better her butt is visible. Today there are no broods, and if there are only a couple of people left, they live in remote taiga or in the tundra far from civilization. "People disappeared for the last night" (c) Grandfather Chip Strogova G. Markov
      1. +1
        19 February 2017 02: 30
        You very accurately described the "wolves" ... climbed a tree.
  6. +4
    17 February 2017 17: 16
    And what do you want, they lived at 404, they built their business style, honed their whole life experience, they should beat their faces in the Duma and force deputies to sign laws without reading that the president can be bought stupidly for grandmothers, what can you do today with alone tomorrow with others and you will not be anything for it, etc. etc.

    A small one can be a patriot 100 times, but all this is written on his subcortex. Therefore, he does not see the shores, that his brain is not used to distinguishing them. On the one hand, I feel sorry for him; on the other, Sevastopol is not such a place to breed humanism.
    1. +2
      19 February 2017 18: 05
      And what is the relation to 404 and to their "thought" (зglad) is Russian citizen Chaly related?

      Take a look at the wiki though: "Since 1996 Russia in the International Scientific Committee of the International Symposium on Discharge and Electrical Insulation in Vacuum. "

      Do you know what the deputies of our City Council "grabbed" on February 24, 2014, not wanting to vote on the recognition of the people's mayor elected on the eve of the city? For his Russian citizenship!
      "Well, we cannot ... he is a citizen of Russia! .." "" Let him quickly change his citizenship! " (this was suggested by the quirky Belik, now leaked to the Duma). These still did not understand what was happening!

      And do you know that thousands of Sevastopol residents chanted under the building of the City Council?
      We chanted: "The Russian mayor is the Russian city!"

      However, if it’s more convenient for you, you can draw information from such deceitful custom statues like this one. And proceeding from it, draw "thoughtful and far-reaching" conclusions.
      1. +2
        20 February 2017 12: 24
        And what does the citizen of Russia Chaly have to do with 404 and their "Duma" (zrad)?

        But what if Tavrida Electric Ukraine was not registered in Sevastopol then?

        You did not read carefully, or I wrote poorly: I can’t say anything bad about Chalom as a Russian person and citizen.

        But what you have been doing in business from the 90s to the 14th year (and is still going on slowly) is chaos, which is even inconvenient to compare with our chaos. And people who conducted business with 404, either quickly fell off, or began to play on this lawlessness. I’m writing for a reason, I myself had affairs, and not at the local Crimean level, but at the government level. One contract was enough for me to understand everything about 404. And I'll wait in Crimea until you get out of the way.
        1. 0
          20 February 2017 15: 39
          But what if Tavrida Electric Ukraine was not registered in Sevastopol then?



          1990 The research laboratory of the Sevastopol Instrument-Making Institute has been reorganized into the independent research and production enterprise TAVRIDA ELECTRIC.

          1990-1992 The TAVRIDA ELECTRIC enterprise has developed several modifications of vacuum circuit breakers for rural distribution networks of 6-10 kV, the production of which was supposed to be mastered at NPO Polyaron.

          1992 The TAVRIDA ELECTRIC enterprise began to create its own production of vacuum circuit breakers and other devices of its own design first in Sevastopol and then in Russia.

          1993 Established Tavrida Electric in Russia (Moscow). Since that time, all products of the enterprise are manufactured under the common brand name "TEL - TAVRIDA ELECTRIC".
          1994 The BB / TEL vacuum circuit breaker is certified by the independent testing center KEMA (Netherlands) for compliance with the requirements of the international standard IEC-56. RAO "UES of Russia" agreed on specifications for mass production of BB / TEL circuit breakers. Representatives of the Tavrida Electric enterprise in the CIS countries have opened.
          ...

          http://www.markus.spb.ru/vip/te.shtml (статья от 2001г)



          But what you have been doing in business from the 90s to the 14th year (and it is still going on slowly) ...
          Apparently, that is why he chose to be in the Russian legal field. Having with 404 exclusively business relationship.

          At the beginning of the XNUMXs, the main office of Tavrida Electric also moved to Moscow, and only a staff of developers remained in Sevastopol. The company explains this by the need to be closer to the largest consumers of the Russian Federation and an attempt to evade customs procedures on the Russian-Ukrainian border. “It takes a lot of time, and customers wanted to receive products without delay,” said Sergey Parfenenko, director of one of the group’s divisions, Tavrida Electric Export. A Sevastopol politician who is well acquainted with Chaly explains this more simply: "I did not want to pay bribes."

          http://antikor.com.ua/articles/64667-istorija_biz
          nesa_narodnogo_mera_sevastopolja / print

          PS: I do not know. Is it possible to make clickable links here. I could not get feel
          But you can copy-paste.
  7. +8
    17 February 2017 17: 46
    Quote: Fagelov
    I can not understand Sevastopol.

    Crimea! Landscapes, climate, sea, air is the PEARL of Russia. We are on the first place in the world, that there is no more construction site to find 3 billion. Yes, build anywhere, even with us. We have a lot of wastelands in the city, ruined, abandoned entire areas of the city, abandoned enterprises. Let the Surgeon come, we will allocate forty square kilometers to him. It’s not a pity! Let at least some kind of interesting one appear. hi
  8. +1
    17 February 2017 18: 32
    As always, a matter of interest, commas and accents. They began under the carpet fights of the bulldogs. And who is right, who is not, you won’t understand even if you capture, for example, SVZ Chernogolovka. Long fuss, someone moved, someone raised, someone will give, taken away, etc.
  9. +14
    17 February 2017 19: 03
    I can say that Sevastopol residents are not against the park, many just got it into the head that the Ministry of Defense is building this park instead of the new cancer center. And where does this information come from? from the web. It turns out that we have been in Russia for more than 2 years, and the IP addresses of users are defined as from Ukraine with all the consequences. Any news, any videos are primarily based on the geolocation of the user. So it turns out that when you search on the Internet, "all Ukrainian cocoa, the curses of Muscovites, or stories about how we eat stew with worms" intended for Ukrainians immediately pops up. I’m using my father’s example, we don’t live far away, and he is sure that Putin is fighting on the Donbas, destroying children in Syria, and in Ukraine is building rocket engines for the United States (not paying attention to the small text that says “Russian RD-181 engines) and generally Europe’s first economy. This must be dealt with first of all, it is no less important than the fight against saboteurs at the border, but unfortunately no one does it.

    My personal opinion about this park: I have nothing against it, but why now? build it after the bridge, and now do more important things in the Crimea.

    ps I live in Sevastopol for almost 22 years.
    1. +6
      17 February 2017 22: 34
      the city of Sevastopol in itself, one large Patriot park, why build something else (here are hospitals, kindergartens, and so on down the list .........)
      1. +7
        18 February 2017 13: 15
        I completely agree. I also live in Sevastopol for a long time and I think the Patriot Park in the place where they want to build it is not needed. On the Yalta highway in the summer, and so traffic is difficult. The park will be even worse. What not to do on Sapuna?
    2. +4
      18 February 2017 23: 18
      Unbearably agree with you.
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    1. +3
      18 February 2017 13: 11
      We’ll add not against the park, but not at this place, but for example in the North on the 30th battery. And you will attract tourists and you will save a forgotten corner by God.
  11. +1
    17 February 2017 20: 09
    The oligarch drives the oligarch and the oligarch.
  12. +6
    17 February 2017 20: 21
    And in Anapa they were already planning to build up a beach in the Sukko Valley.
    The coastal protection zone has long begun.
    Land is sold in square centimeters.
    And no one cares.
    Fruits and vegetables for a long time, we eat Turkish, thanks to our agricultural minister, he had a lot of fun in the Kuban.
    With such a minister and the Crimean wine-growers, the winemaker did not stay long.
    About natural wine, we will soon forget everything, only one powder will remain.
  13. SAA
    +2
    17 February 2017 22: 08
    Here is nonsense. Such garbage even on the informer was not. Give free rein to the ghouls, so you would return Serdyukov and Vasilyeva. Well, OUR land was given to you like that. Darling, yes, very much. This is the price of the blood she poured.
    You already have plenty of hectares in the east ready to give. Build what you want, absorb billions, With Shoigu or with anyone, and we stood and will stand for our land.
    1. 0
      17 February 2017 22: 28
      rang but I understand this is exactly what Shoigu himself is standing
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  14. +1
    17 February 2017 22: 24
    Yes, the Ukrainian situation and it should be broken by the Crimeans themselves, Sevastopol, and the rest of Russia should only help them get rid of Ukrainian manners in theft and bribery.
    1. 0
      20 February 2017 17: 18
      The true idea is that Crimeans need to clean up themselves, and not wait until others come and put things in order
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  16. +8
    17 February 2017 23: 17
    Oh, some controversial article. Many misunderstandings. Why does Sevastopol residents care about Patriot Park? Yes, they already have a hero city, a museum city, with such cultural and historical fullness that this park seems to them an attempt to sew an artificial organ. Chochy in Sevastopol, many respect, say not a bad man. If you think a businessman, you think you’re not offending yourself - now all of them are. The struggle of the locals with the "mainland" is a fact, there is one. They send bosses. The bosses with expansion, try to immediately break all orders and traditions, to show that "now is not then." Locals do not like this.
    By and large, this park really doesn’t need Sevastopol at all, because there is such a concentration of patriotism on every corner - you will not find it anywhere else. Why another new entity, when there is already an 35 battery, Malakhov Kurgan, Sapun-gora and many more, not to list. Is it not better to bring these memorable places filled with real historical meaning into a better view than to make something new?
  17. +7
    17 February 2017 23: 30
    Honestly, I did not understand at all what the author wanted to say with his article.
    If anyone thought that the transition of Crimea to Russia would dramatically change the mentality of Crimeans - a big mistake. There has long been formed such a "Crimean ethnic group," which, to a light bulb, Ukraine, Russia, Turkey or Madagascar outside the window. Only many. Moreover, the cost of 20 years does not match the quality. Though you throw money there with a shovel, you won’t transplant the brain. And let the referendum not be misleading. The only quick solution is to evict the entire population of the South Coast in the Yamalo-Nenets National District. But those people who could do this have long been gone. Alas.
    The flag should not be misleading, I know from Ukraine and Crimeans not from the TV.
    1. +2
      18 February 2017 23: 30
      So don’t measure Crimea with your Khokhlyatsk essence. Do not. Prosrali territory, prosrai people- have the courage to accept this with dignity at last ...
      1. +2
        18 February 2017 23: 34
        Finally accepted.
    2. +1
      20 February 2017 01: 23
      autonomous) yanao ... what would the gas be mowed? )) according to available information ... Crimeans howl already .. businessmen. they say ... "taxes are some kind .. reporting ... we don’t know. what is it ... want a lot .. leave me alone ...") but this is out of habit. fixable .. as I understand your bureaucrats. from our end 90 ... ..and someone said that there is no time machine .. here it is the Crimean peninsula
  18. +5
    18 February 2017 06: 38
    Quote: maxim947
    Rotten article

    The same opinion. The word patriotism has already been completely dragged on. Who just do not count as patriots. The same Voronenkov, recently passed as a tough patriot, but now it turns out that they were mistaken. It turned out to be rotten. For myself, I have long understood that talking about love for our large multinational homeland leads such people for plebs, and they themselves do business. Today in Russia, tomorrow in Ukraine, or elsewhere.
  19. +1
    18 February 2017 10: 57
    The main thing is not to initially make idols out of people, and then protect them from the whole world. Honor and praise to Chalom for his active participation in the return of Crimea to Russia. But initially, his figure was practically not well known to anyone, except for the locals, so you do not need to turn him into a hero who joined the Crimea. I even heard from a Crimean veteran that Konstantinov hesitated in choosing between Russia and Ukraine, but chose Russia. And now what cast doubt on his choice? Enough categorically judge everything, based solely on their perception.
    1. +1
      19 February 2017 02: 39
      But the local he was quite well known. And not from campaign posters, but by deeds.
      Konstantinov, of course, hesitated! Who would doubt it! But what does this have to do with Chalom, who, if hesitated. then take on the burden of managing the city in such a critical situation, or ... but there was almost no "or". Therefore, the decision was the only right one.
      “I feel like General Novikov ...” which of the NON-Sevastopol residents will understand these bitter words he said then, on February 23?

      And in relation to Russia, Chaly never hesitated. A Russian citizen himself, he did a lot for our return to it long before 2014.
  20. +2
    18 February 2017 13: 09
    Analytics of yard gossips. Sevastopol will never be a cultural, historical and tourist center in the Crimea. First of all, it is a naval base and the entire structure of the city is sharpened and will continue to develop under it. And why Chaly was stuck here. There are disassemblies at the level of state structures, the government of the Russian Federation and the governor. Draw the right conclusions. Moscow Region has not yet given a single piece of land to the city, but it has already raked very good pieces for itself.
  21. +6
    18 February 2017 13: 24
    Obviously custom-made article does not even closely reflect the attitude of Sevastopol residents to the Patriot park. "Wolves" and similar "businessmen", trying to build a park in the vicinity of Mount Gasfort, a beloved vacation spot by the townspeople, provoked the leadership of Moscow Region on an adventure. Thank God, smart people were found there and decided to move the place of the park to another place.
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  25. +5
    18 February 2017 19: 10
    Another opus against Chaly. It turns out that he made the "35 battery" complex with the money of the oligarchs, and, in general, the hidden dill oligarch himself. The article simply stinks of political order.
    1. +2
      18 February 2017 22: 56
      To whom it is interesting, a wolf-racer at a local forum.

      [media = http: //forum.sevastopol.info/viewtopic.php
      ? p = 26317790 # p26317790]

      This scares me more.
      sevastopol. su / news.p hp? id = 94413
      "" I have good relations with the Ministry of Defense. Since the Russian Spring. I will force them not to move out. They will not be able to move out. You need to collect the questionnaires [in support of the Patriot]. I’ll come and put it on the table at the highest level in the President’s office, a pack of papers with signatures of 10 thousand people, ”Zaldavstan promised."
      It is possible to “make” this number of signatures ... If you invest.
      In general, Zaldostanov is increasingly tearing the roof. This is what the pursuit of power and money does to a person when it is “zeal out of reason”.
      1. +3
        18 February 2017 23: 12
        I have been reading the whole story from this forum, which has been going on for a year now. In general, I wonder where this "patriot" gets money for a motorcycle and in general, what does he live on? Does it even work in the evenings at the hospital?
        1. +1
          19 February 2017 14: 02
          In your patriot a synonym for the word rogue?
        2. SAA
          +1
          20 February 2017 00: 07
          For this project, called the Patriot All-Russian Youth Center, Alexander Zaldavstan and Co., through the Russian Youth Union, received 12 of millions of budget rubles. There is no center.
      2. +1
        20 February 2017 17: 48
        I don’t lie to liars, which I agree with you is that Zaldostanov’s head went a little dizzy: “I will force them not to move out ...” If any surgeon or motorcyclist dictates Shoigu, such a defense minister is a fig!
    2. +1
      19 February 2017 18: 29
      Quote: Aviator_
      The article simply stinks of political order.
      More ... Reply

      From Roman Skomorokhov all the latest articles with a sweetheart. Juggling the facts and just frantic accusations against the one who was ordered to throw mud.
      1. +1
        19 February 2017 20: 24
        Probably taken to the state, fulfills the salary.
    3. 0
      20 February 2017 17: 37
      Aviator, 1 with this park more saliva foam than reality.
      2. I least want to justify the novel, but because of your statement and other comrades that I ask the order to indicate this: whose is this order? I think time is the best judge!
  26. +2
    18 February 2017 19: 41
    I think that it is not necessary to impose on Sevastopol residents a park or not. Sevastopol is already the cradle of the Navy and let them decide whether they need a park or not
    1. +6
      18 February 2017 21: 33
      the author distorts. We are not against the Patriot Park, we are opposed to the introduction of the Wolves with their strip club, hotels, taverns and a dance floor of 1000 square meters under the guise of a park. m
      At the expense of the Moscow Region, they will extend all communications (17 km) to Gasfort, and there local developers will enter the business, who will build 3 * and 4 * hotels near the reservoir, which we have - a reserve reservoir. We do not like wolf urine.
  27. +3
    18 February 2017 21: 15
    Quote: Skif100500
    If the rockers "did not intervene in state affairs," then hell knows what would have ended up in the Crimea ... they were just the boiling point from the beginning.

    Who told you such nonsense?
    Sasha-Herurg in Zelenograd heard the case of robbery, on March 28, 2014 the court was. So, Sasha covered his ass in the Crimea. And about HOW the Wolves participated, there is documentary evidence. By the way, I'm Sevastopol, a participant in the events. Why the status is displayed as Ukraine is a question for moderation
    By the way, only the Zaldostanovskys are trying to monetize their participation in the Russian Spring.

    this video is about how the NV in Yalta almost provoked the shooting, and in the movie this episode was interpreted.
    1. +1
      18 February 2017 23: 16
      And, that's why everything here with dill flags is quite adequate interlocutors. Is that what the leadership of the VO considers Crimea to be still black-blooded?
      1. +1
        19 February 2017 02: 46
        Apparently, yes. I am from Sevastopol, and the flag cannot be changed in any way.
        1. 0
          19 February 2017 12: 43
          THIS SITE OF "MILITARY REVIEW" SEVASTOPOL IS IDENTIFIED AS UKRAINE. laughing
          I had the same nonsense yesterday.
        2. +3
          19 February 2017 14: 01
          I see at this time you and your interlocutors Russian flags.
          1. +2
            19 February 2017 18: 13
            Apparently, they were automatically identified as territory 404, and the administration of the resource changed "manually" by reading our messages.
            For which many thanks to them! love

            You know, for 23 years of close communication with the non-state, even a random combination of yellow and blue causes a simply painful disgust.
            This is a pathology, probably. feel
            1. +4
              19 February 2017 18: 42
              even a random combination of yellow and blue is simply painful disgust.
              Agree, love Well, it was so necessary to get such a good combination of colors.
      2. 0
        19 February 2017 12: 38
        Flags changed, now the moderator is suspected of kaklizm?)))
        My mail address [email protected], and Google still considers Sevastopol Ukraine.
        ps. Maybe you do not know that we are under sanctions?))) wassat
  28. +1
    18 February 2017 22: 27
    Personally, I, as Krymchanin, are interested in a little different question. All the way goes - Sevastopol and the Republic of Kazakhstan. And what, Sevastopol is not Crimea ?! It turns out, Crimea is Russia, and the hero city of Sevastopol is still Rossiestei ?! And this despite the fact that I personally came across a sufficient number of people here who do not hide their sympathies for Ukraine. Maybe I’m not right, but I find such a division inappropriate. Yes, and the rumor cuts (It seems like a city-hero Moscow and the rest of the Russian Federation).
    1. +2
      18 February 2017 22: 40
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      All the way goes - Sevastopol and the Republic of Kazakhstan. And what, Sevastopol is not Crimea ?!

      - it still comes from the Union if you have forgotten (or did not know)
      - Sevastopol was a city of Union significance
      - now - a city of federal significance of the Russian Federation (besides it - also Moscow and St. Petersburg)
      - therefore, it is mentioned "especially."

      There is no other meaning in such a spelling request
      1. +1
        18 February 2017 22: 59
        So here legs at this, and many future problems, seem to grow from here. Since we ourselves form specific princes. That is, from what they left during the revolution, to that they came ...
        1. +1
          18 February 2017 23: 04
          Quote: Petrol cutter
          So here are the legs of this, and many future problems, and it seems to grow from here

          - that’s honest - I won’t understand what the problem is.
          - There is the Russian Federation, it has three cities of federal significance. Which, incidentally, accounts for "more than 12% of the population and about a quarter of the GDP" of the country (c) Vika
          - Well, they named Sevastopol separately in some list-listing-I don’t know-what-else ... what's the trouble? request
        2. +1
          19 February 2017 13: 02
          In the 14th year we returned (Crimea) to Russia.
          What kind of "revolution" are you repeating? About "The Revolution of Hydnosticity," belay
          In relation to Chaly, the definition of “specific prince” is incorrect to apply, if only because the governor (and sent to Siberia Menyailo and sent to replace Ovsyannikov) is from the mainland, and Chaly today is the ordinary deputy of the ZAKS, who honestly left the chairmen of the ZAKS because he did not have the opportunity to realize what he promised.
          But he couldn’t just because the governor (Menyailo) and the plenipotentiary (Belavintsev) played a completely different game, continuing to cut the land that had begun during the stolen season. Is your name Pavel Lebedev talking about something?
        3. 0
          19 February 2017 13: 02
          In the 14th year we returned (Crimea) to Russia.
          What kind of "revolution" are you repeating? About "The Revolution of Hydnosticity," belay
          In relation to Chaly, the definition of “specific prince” is incorrect to apply, if only because the governor (and sent to Siberia Menyailo and sent to replace Ovsyannikov) is from the mainland, and Chaly today is the ordinary deputy of the ZAKS, who honestly left the chairmen of the ZAKS because he did not have the opportunity to realize what he promised.
          But he couldn’t just because the governor (Menyailo) and the plenipotentiary (Belavintsev) played a completely different game, continuing to cut the land that had begun during the stolen season. Is your name Pavel Lebedev talking about something?
  29. +1
    18 February 2017 23: 51
    Yes, it’s special trouble, as it were. Only now they steal and money is now covered with mainland comrades. And it gets a little insulting (why then all?). So at least Aksyonov rustles from time to time on the peninsula. But at the expense of the city, the fed.values ​​are silence in the compartments mainly.
  30. +3
    19 February 2017 00: 52
    Comrade threw a link to this article. I only saw the picture - I got sick of reading. It is immediately obvious that an incompetent person wrote. Photo of Chaly - and the inscription "Crimea". "In the elderberry garden ..."
    And the heading indicates an explicit order.
    The first two paragraphs still mastered, convinced that the impression of the picture was not deceived.
    "80% of Crimean residents are only interested in the number of tourists who come to Crimea in the summer."
    Well, build your "patriotic" hotels in Crimea! It is advisable in the steppe, where there are many places, but few tourists.

    The writer of the article does not understand the features of the region, about which he undertook to write, and even confuses it with the neighboring one.
    And how do you order it to read and comment without profanity?
    If I can, I will continue.
  31. +3
    19 February 2017 01: 05
    Quote: Petrol cutter
    Personally, I, as Krymchanin, are interested in a little different question. All the way goes - Sevastopol and the Republic of Kazakhstan. And what Sevastopol is not Crimea ?! It turns out, Crimea is Russia, and the hero city of Sevastopol is still Rossiestei ?! And this despite the fact that I personally came across a sufficient number of people here who do not hide their sympathies for Ukraine. Maybe I'm wrong, but I find such a division inappropriate. Yes, and the rumor cuts (It seems like the city is the hero of Moscow and the rest of the Russian Federation).


    Legally is not. And that’s not the point at all, neighbor, who is "more Russian". Our regions have different development vectors. "You can’t hide in one cart ...". Well, you yourself will be offended if the military will play the "first fiddle", placing their bases everywhere. And we are offended when the guests from anywhere tulle and the historical center of the city are ruined.
    Your priority area is resort development, we have a naval base and industry characteristic of our region.

    Not “Hero City Moscow and the rest of the Russian Federation”, but “Leningrad Region and the City of St. Petersburg” wink
    By the way, in Petra, Kronshtadt is most like us. Or we are at it. what
  32. +3
    19 February 2017 01: 09
    Quote: Petrol cutter
    Yes, it’s special trouble, as it were. Only now they steal and money is now covered with mainland comrades. And it gets a little insulting (why then all?). So at least Aksyonov rustles from time to time on the peninsula. But at the expense of the city, the fed.values ​​are silence in the compartments mainly.

    Yeah ... but is it necessary that Aksenov and his mainland comrades cut money both in the Crimea and Sevastopol?

    Silence in Sevastopol! Wow silence, if our deputies throughout the country screamed about the exploits of the “Odmeral” team!
    It is all quiet and peaceful in the Crimea, sawing in an enviable unity of souls and minds.
    1. +3
      19 February 2017 03: 04
      And the people from the side are surprised: "Ah, why in the Crimea it’s quiet and smooth, yes God's grace, and in Sevastopol there is always noise and cries?"
      And because in Sevastopol most of ZakSa are decent people, they continually raise a cry: "Hold the thief!"
      Deputy cries are more audible than the cries of ordinary citizens. So after the next re-election of the AP in Sevastopol it will become a little quieter.
      Because there will be fewer decent (under whom they diligently dig, including with the help of the authors of such custom statues). Their places will be taken by those who are ready to meet the interests of interested parties (developers, sawmills), adopt laws that protect only their interests and not make too much noise.
  33. +4
    19 February 2017 16: 10
    The fight in the Crimea between the oligarchs and patriots. Results of the investigation
    The name is tendentious, with a claim to the last word.
    It is assumed that the "patriots" are Zaldostanovsky, the "oligarchs" are all the rest.
    This is actually a blatant lie.
    To begin with, the “Wolves” are poorly oriented in the state system of Russia. They are imprisoned on the Executive "vertical" and wanted to spit on the Sevastopol representative branch of government.
    What is the impact of Sasha-Herurg on the Sevastopol ZAKS in the spring of 2014:

    Purely bandit run over (Sasha-Herurg, as always, by phone) to the just-elected in Sevastopol LEGITIMATE LAW

    The documentary is slaughter. As Zaldostanov in a psychiatric hospital has not yet been taken.
    1. 0
      19 February 2017 20: 40
      The most amazing thing is that under this piece of paper Guber Menyailo writes off 267 hectares of Sevastopol land !!!
  34. +6
    19 February 2017 20: 18
    The article is not just rotten! It’s disgusting! While Alexei Chaly built a memorial for the defenders of the 35th Coastal Battery for his money, the Crimean authorities, represented by the top of the Party of Regions and led by the occupying Makeyevka team of Yanukovych, brought to the Crimea the dead Nazi punishers in London , they buried them with all the state honors! And how they created museums "classics of Turkish literature" throughout Crimea! Shyly silent about the service of the "classics" in the SS troops. And how in the Crimea they buried the provocateur and Gestapo agents who issued the Sokol reconnaissance group to the Nazis with state honors “consisting of actors from the Simferopol Theater (remember the Soviet film“ They were actors ”?). And when the legendary commander of the 6th partisan detachment Nikolay Dementyev passed away in Simferopol, the Crimean authorities did not place a wreath or flower on his grave ... We Crimeans believe that it was Alexei Chaly who should have stood at the helm of the Crimea, and not the representatives of the Party of Regions who quickly repainted I'm United Russia! It was Chaly, who first raised the Russian flag over Crimea! Although some are closer to fans of the SS troops and Gestapo agents!
  35. +1
    20 February 2017 09: 05
    Quote: I DO NOT LOVE LIARS
    The documentary is slaughter. As Zaldostanov in a psychiatric hospital has not yet been taken.

    It is a pity that the OUTGOING DOCUMENT from Sasha-Herurg was lost, illustrating his idea that there are documents. laughing
    Nothing, I'm not proud, I repeat:


    Let me remind you, on the basis of this piece of paper, 270 hectares of Sevastopol land were broken off from a generous governor’s shoulder (from Menyailo) to Sasha-Herurgu.
    When Chaly was outraged about this, diarrhea was started on both Chaly and all those who were not with wolves.
    Hitting the ZAKS (see above) is precisely what explains this.
    Further more. am
  36. +1
    20 February 2017 09: 30
    Quote: I DO NOT LOVE LIARS
    Hitting the ZAKS (see above) is precisely what explains this.

    Immediately followed by a run over by the governor Menyailo who explained to us that he was making decisions, and all the others could be wiped off. There was an appeal to the prosecutor for the legality of such a lordly gift.
    Here is what the prosecutor’s office answered:

    I, like a law-abiding CITIZEN, should have realized my mistake, but no.
    He "suspends" (in words) the action of his own order and undertakes a massive attack on the Sevastopol representative authority of the ZAKS


  37. +1
    20 February 2017 09: 51


    for some reason, this document (or an example of artistic creation, rather) with the handwritten signature of Sasha-Herurg on this site is not delayed. It's a pity. sad
  38. +1
    20 February 2017 10: 00
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: Maxim Sheludyakov
    and the "Night Wolves" in the 90s beat different skinheads.

    Skinheads? The "Night Wolves" earlier in the "charter" states that the color path to their club is closed, the "wolves" are essentially nationalists.

    PHOTO DOCUMENT. NV Dolitsky and "SHULZ-88"

    Dolitsky and Sasha-Herurg

    Scum, they spoiled everything that is possible.
    All that is impossible is also.
  39. +1
    20 February 2017 11: 08
    Quote: I DO NOT LOVE LIARS
    for some reason, this document (or an example of artistic creation, rather) with the handwritten signature of Sasha-Herurg on this site is not delayed. It's a pity. sad

    Oh, memory is probably buggy. Double can be deleted. wink
    The chronological development of events will not work, so those who wish will have to figure it out on their own.

    Nonprofit they og ...

    Business partners of Zaldostanov and Dolitsky.

    Dolitsky and Menyailo

    Dolitsky and you yourself know who, Sevastopol

    Dolitsky. "Beloyar" advertises "According to the program of Santa Claus"

    Dolitsky at the head of the HB column. Sevastopol

    Nazar Dolitsky. Glory to Russia, og. Mangup Kale. Here, in 1941-42, there was Manstein’s headquarters.

    The same Julia

    Yura Safe, Drugan. "According to the program of Santa Claus." see on the right biceps
    Neo-Nazi selling anabolics (like sports nutrition)
    1. +2
      20 February 2017 17: 04
      PHOTO DOCUMENT. NV Dolitsky and "SHULZ-88"


      Photo not visible sad And many others too.

      I guess what the quotation is about, now I’ll also try to insert it.
      If it doesn’t work out, throw better links to the image (at least like this:
      http://tavrinfo.net/sites/default/files/rodikov-1
      6-12-2016-2.jpg)
      Those who are interested will copy-paste and look.

  40. +1
    20 February 2017 20: 07
    Quote: Jurla
    PHOTO DOCUMENT. NV Dolitsky and "SHULZ-88"
    The photo is not visible :( And many others too.

    Thank you for informing. (I see it ok)
    Miracles... sad
    I will try in a different way, albeit troublesome. The archive on your computer, the Nazis came to their senses and rubbed off the incriminating materials for a long time ...

    You can’t forbid to live beautifully. Even if money is a “patriotic” grant.
  41. +1
    20 February 2017 20: 26
    Quote: I DO NOT LIKE LIARS
    Quote: Jurla
    PHOTO DOCUMENT. NV Dolitsky and "SHULZ-88"
    The photo is not visible :( And many others too.

    Thank you for informing. (I see it ok)
    Miracles... sad
    I will try in a different way, albeit troublesome. The archive on your computer, the Nazis came to their senses and rubbed off the incriminating materials for a long time ...
  42. 0
    21 February 2017 01: 20
    [quote = I DO NOT LIKE LIARS] Photo is not visible sad And many others - too. [/ quote] [/ quote]
    [quote] https://topwar.ru/109182-ekskursiya-na-gas
    fortu-gde-ne-budet-parka-patriot.html [/ quote] but here?
  43. 0
    21 February 2017 11: 23
    Here is not only a rotten article. Even a picture to post a problem ...
    [media = https: //youtu.be/vdfsNjgtBSs]
    This is a “wolf” version of patriotism, from which it becomes bad not only for Sevastopol mummies.
  44. 0
    22 February 2017 07: 49
    I do not impose my opinion, but I think that this whole gang of Chaly
    laughing


    who have come to us in the Crimea, NIGHT WOLVES are trying to squeeze THREE SQUARE KILOMETERS of land from the city.
    From the news ... they connected VTsIOM.
    The question for or against the Patriot Park in Gasfort is "incorrect, since Sevastopol is not against the Patriot Park, it is against the Wolf Center in Gasfort and categorically against the participation of" WOLVES "in this project.

    Bike show from the "Night Wolves" in Sevastopol.