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Mom - corruption, dad - populism

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Mom - corruption, dad - populism



The plot of the next Ukrainian political season is not particularly original and is based on populist statements, empty promises and public scandals between elected officials.

It is worth noting that some Ukrainian statesmen, speaking in the discipline of verbal duels, show quite high qualifications. No less talented are the officials in the field of distributing promises and describing the prospects for a bright future.

However, when the reporting period comes, the rhetoric of all power echelons turns into hackneyed: “we must tighten our belts more tightly”, “have a little more patience”, “everything will be, but tomorrow, next year, a decade, life ...”

Over the past ten, if not all twenty-five years of independent and independent existence of Ukraine, the state steering wheel by and large had the same people, whose interests were in the opposite direction from the construction and development of a strong state.

Certainly, the statement that this team (namely, a single entity that externally disparate political cells are) does not know how to achieve its objectives will not correspond to reality. They are able to work efficiently and harmoniously, the only question is the final goal of joint activities.

The most surprising thing is that since the establishment of diplomatic relations between independent Ukraine and Russia (14 February 1992), Moscow has always been and remains to blame for all internal and external problems of Kiev. “Klyaty Muscovites” is so entrenched in Ukrainian self-consciousness that no other possible problems of the decline of all spheres and areas that make up the state are not even submitted for consideration. However, it is the correct answer to the question “Who is to blame?” Allows you to understand the situation and work on the bugs. And most of all, the one who is responsible for his own problems is looking for a guilty one.

As for the people's choices, then you need to vote not for the one who speaks more convincingly (read lies) or who has the spit more beautiful, or the blow is stronger. It is necessary to support those political forces that demonstrate their professionalism and are able to carry out the required transformations of the state not only in words but also in deeds. We need those who will set and gradually achieve real, rather than fantastic goals. To build a successful state comes to the fore efficiency, not spectacularity.

The first thing Ukraine needs is a return to social standards and economic indicators of the 2013 level of the year. And for this, in the opposite direction you will have to go through the same route along which for three years Poroshenko and the team led the country to a dead end. To live as in Europe, you need to work, fight corruption, respect and comply with the law, as in Europe.
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  1. gladcu2
    gladcu2 18 February 2017 04: 42
    +1
    Oh my God.

    How to bring corruption to zero?

    Very simple (philosophical).

    It is necessary to bring the system to monopoly. When there is no competition. When the motivation for incubation is in contrast to the means of survival.

    The Chinese are using the old ancient method, shooting. But they live as long as their LEADER understands what he is doing. Because lol they have controlled capitalism, i.e. socialism.

    The leader will leave, and the country-animal. The truth is there, the party controls. Well, our grandchildren will see what happens next.
    1. Finches
      Finches 18 February 2017 06: 50
      +3
      He considered and consider Ukraine to be an incompetent state - just as people in Ukraine considered and consider themselves to have sought power, using it solely for the purpose of personal enrichment, and the naive Ukrainian people, who made a fool of their exclusivity as an access tool to the feeding trough! We have a wave of such "managers" of the beginning of the 90s gradually disappearing, because the centuries-old foundations of the empire’s state structure are triggered by subconscious damage - yes, slower than we wanted, but right! And Ukraine, if there is an independent future, it’s only like a banana, thoroughly corrupt republic!
    2. Amper
      Amper 18 February 2017 18: 16
      +2
      Corruption cannot be brought to 0 in a “civilized society” —it is present in all countries. There is no corruption only in primitive communal societies, where everyone is the basis for the survival of society as a whole.
      GDP is only one piece of advice - you want to cleanse society from corruption, plant your closest friends, the rest will scatter and start hunting you (it’s weak for him, and there’s no such purpose).
      So, there was modern Russia at the level of Zimbabwe, and this will remain until the next coup.
    3. krass
      krass 20 February 2017 13: 14
      0
      Quote: gladcu2
      very simple (philosophical).
      It is necessary to bring the system to monopoly. When there is no competition.

      North Korea is one of the most corrupt countries.
      And there everything is monopolized
      Quote: gladcu2
      When there is no competition

      Competition is everywhere and always.
      Quote: gladcu2
      because they have controlled capitalism, i.e. socialism.

      This is something new.
      By the way, what about corruption in Canada? wink
    4. Trotil42
      Trotil42 21 February 2017 15: 49
      +2
      It’s completely pointless to talk about corruption in Ukraine and give advice ... the money is taken from our officials by trucks ... it’s just not comparable ... I just read ... I stole 1.3 billion .... a fine of 1 million ... the article is so-so ... when you write about your home country write dirt about another ... a ride ...
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 18 February 2017 04: 58
    +1
    The first thing Ukraine needs is a return to social standards and economic indicators of the 2013 level.

    The people of UKRAINE9 (especially in the west and central part of the country) now have one goal to get visa-free in the EU and get out there with lace panties for free freebies ...
    and let them work from their point of view hehe hevatniki and Muscovites.
    Let's all the same be realistic ... to plow and work hard until blue in the face for today's salary in hryvnias, most Ukrainians do not want and will not ... it is better to leave for EUROPE.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 18 February 2017 06: 35
      +1
      Alexey, I almost agree with you .. Only one BUT .. most Ukrainians do not want and will not ... it’s better to leave for EUROPE. Not to the opu, but to Russia. Here are the realities. And who is waiting for them there, in this well? And here is earnings, no matter how .. There is no language barrier, and the attitude is (for now) tolerable ..
      Quote: The same Lech
      The first thing Ukraine needs is a return to social standards and economic indicators of the 2013 level.

      The people of UKRAINE9 (especially in the west and central part of the country) now have one goal to get visa-free in the EU and get out there with lace panties for free freebies ...
      and let them work from their point of view hehe hevatniki and Muscovites.
      Let's all the same be realistic ... to plow and work hard until blue in the face for today's salary in hryvnias, most Ukrainians do not want and will not ... it is better to leave for EUROPE.
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 18 February 2017 17: 10
        0
        You're not right. In Europe and Russia, the number of residents is comparable
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 20 February 2017 11: 47
      +2
      The first thing Ukraine needs is a return to social standards and economic indicators of the 2013 level of the year. And for this, in the opposite direction you will have to go through the same route along which for three years Poroshenko and the team led the country to a dead end. To live as in Europe, you need to work, fight corruption, respect and comply with the law, as in Europe.

      People are so arranged that in others they first of all try to divide themselves, this simplifies the identification of friend or foe. You see your reflection-well, you do not see yourself in another-annoying. We live by stereotypes of behavior, movement, communication, etc., which saves time and energy.
      While the FSA ambassador controls the bandera, the compulsions are in the SBU building, crowds of patients of mental hospitals walk around the streets, incompetent small-town bandits and bydlyak rule the country, what standards are we talking about? On respect for what law are we talking about when there is a civil war?
  3. Evdokim
    Evdokim 18 February 2017 05: 51
    +1
    Over the past 25 years in / in Ukraine there is a large comprehensive social experiment. In the role of experimental 40 million, and neighboring states. Results on the face, you can draw conclusions, write dissertations, make films, and more. The main thing, in my opinion, is to wind up on a mustache and not climb on another's rake. hi
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 20 February 2017 13: 06
      0
      Quote: Evdokim
      Over the past 25 years in / in Ukraine there is a large comprehensive social experiment. In the role of experimental 40 million, and neighboring states. Results on the face, you can draw conclusions, write dissertations, make films, and more.

      We have the same thing in Russia, only our media present everything in a different color, well, they throw more food and shows into people in the trough. As long as there are "we don’t hand over our people", "we are not 37 years old", "there is no money, but you hold on" plus "little money - go to business" - they will feed us with fairy tales as others have everything bad, and even condemn them in a whisper " What do you want back in the 90s, "hinting that now we are living a healthy and calm life.
      1. Evdokim
        Evdokim 20 February 2017 13: 21
        +1
        Quote: Corsair
        healthy and calm

        Well this will never happen. This is a priori. I don’t think it’s enough to shoot half the government, and we will be happy. Moses dragged the Jews through the desert for forty years, not because he wanted it so much; no, 2-3 generations of free-born people were needed. So it’s not for us to judge our own life, let the children and grandchildren judge.
        And be dissatisfied, and even better, become a deputy. hi
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 20 February 2017 13: 30
          +2
          Quote: Evdokim
          I don’t think that it’s just to shoot half the government, and we will be happy

          - any sudden movement - it’s a minus, not a plus ... no need to shoot anyone laughing

          Quote: Evdokim
          And be dissatisfied, or better yet, become a deputy

          - so him, oryasin laughing
    2. krass
      krass 20 February 2017 13: 19
      0
      Quote: Evdokim
      Over the past 25 years in / in Ukraine there is a large comprehensive social experiment. In the role of experimental 40 million and neighboring states

      i.e. Poland, Belarus, Russia?
      I can tell you - Poland lives better than all three countries combined.
      Poland 13t per capita
      Russia - 7700
      Ukraine - 1854
      Belarus - 4800
      1. Evdokim
        Evdokim 20 February 2017 13: 26
        0
        Quote: krass
        Poland lives better than all three countries combined.
        Poland 13t per capita

        With over 14 billion euro subsidies from the EU. Why not. hi
        If Ukraine and Poland stop receiving denyushki for transit, they probably will not become richer.
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 20 February 2017 15: 21
        +1
        Quote: krass
        Poland 13t per capita

        - "t per capita" is tons, probably?
        - tons of what? wink

        Poland, unfortunately, has already toughly blended into the European Union. At the same time, having lost everything that was left to her from CMEA.

        Well, their choice, there are no questions ... but what about the better - at vain you are in vain, IMHO yes
        1. krass
          krass 20 February 2017 15: 44
          0
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          "t per capita" is tons, probably?

          Roman - do you understand what I mean.
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Poland, unfortunately, has already toughly blended into the European Union

          Why "Unfortunately ? More precisely, what regret - yours or them?
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          At the same time, having lost everything that was left to her from CMEA.

          What they had during the CMEA - clearly resulted in a crisis in the early 80's
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Well, their choice, there are no questions ... but what’s better - you’re in vain, IMX

          Why
          I have something to compare with - I've been to Poland 4 times already.
          1998, 2002, 209 and 2015 --- changes are evident.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 20 February 2017 23: 26
            +1
            Quote: krass
            1998, 2002, 2009 and 2015 - there are changes

            - the Poles got older, probably laughing
  4. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 18 February 2017 06: 10
    +5
    “The first thing Ukraine needs” (and the last) is to degrade completely and fall apart into enclaves that are then unified by its creditors and “benefactors” into bins. Amen.
  5. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 18 February 2017 06: 30
    +3
    Igor hi Am I missing something? Is corruption already completely defeated in Russia?
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 18 February 2017 07: 03
      +3
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Is corruption already completely defeated in Russia?

      Old principle: Can't prevent it? Then head!
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 18 February 2017 12: 49
      +1
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Igor, did I miss something? Is corruption already completely defeated in Russia?

      Not yet, but the struggle in this direction is being waged somehow))) You can take a look at your leisure ....
      http://fpp.spb.ru/fpp-rating-2016-06
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 20 February 2017 13: 10
        0
        This is more like a palace intrigue and the elimination of people interfering with some tricks of other scumbags. Where are the real landings with the complete confiscation of property and why do we have some unemployed in cars for more than 3-5 million rubles ride or rest in kursavels?
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 20 February 2017 15: 24
          +1
          Quote: Corsair
          Where are the real landings with the complete confiscation of property ...

          - "bread and see" - it was like that in Rome ...
          - bread, a hike, enough ... and even on the Internet "on coupons" enough ...
          - and where, damn it, spectacles ??!

          Corsairif you weren’t, you would have to come up with yes
  6. fa2998
    fa2998 18 February 2017 06: 48
    +9
    Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
    Is corruption already completely defeated in Russia?

    Who else will say that Ukraine is not a "fraternal country". laughing In the first two paragraphs, you can safely replace the word Ukraine with Russia and you can print the same thing! The same corruption and populism! negative hi
    1. MPK105
      MPK105 18 February 2017 07: 09
      +10
      Yes, when you watch TV, read articles about their lives, I often find myself on this — replace Ukraine with Russia, one to one ... Well, is it really better we still have a little in the economy and there’s no war, that’s the whole difference .
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 18 February 2017 13: 18
        +5
        Quote: MPK105
        Yes, when you watch TV, read articles about their lives, I often find myself on this — replace Ukraine with Russia, one to one ... Well, is it really better we still have a little in the economy and there’s no war, that’s the whole difference .

        Remember the charades from the children's magazine "Murzilka": find 10 differences. what
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 20 February 2017 13: 18
          +1
          Quote: Stroporez
          Remember the charades from the children's magazine "Murzilka": find 10 differences.

          - between Kraina and the Russian Federation?
          - yes, simply fellow
          - is the prize provided? And then without a prize, it’s not interesting laughing
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 February 2017 06: 59
    +3
    The first thing Ukraine needs is a return to social standards and economic indicators of the 2013 level

    Well, the author made laugh. What is the social standard and economic indicators of 2013 (and why not immediately to the standards of the 70-80s). The country is at war with its population, the oligarchs swing rights with their armed units, debts are higher than the roof. In this case, the full loading of a completely new and high-quality system with preliminary removal of the previous one affected not only by viruses, but also through the stump of the deck can still help.
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 February 2017 07: 32
    0
    They just know how to work efficiently and harmoniously, the question is only in the ultimate goal of joint activity.


    stuffing your pocket with money. - more and less, there are no "goals". bully
  9. To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 18 February 2017 10: 37
    0
    "Mom - corruption, dad - populism"
    "The marquise made a deal with the marquise - he broke the marquise ... a brooch. And so as not to offend, baby, I bought her a new ... brooch."
    While officials are eating. Corruption is necessary and it is possible to fight. But to defeat irrevocably and finally .. pardon. Alas.
    laughing
  10. Barbulator
    Barbulator 18 February 2017 11: 13
    +2
    So what is the article about? Yes, nothing! The same political gossip and populism: it is bad there, but good here (and also vice versa). The author decided to practice how readers will react, and the reaction is exactly what was expected: some are for, others are against. But this topic has been discussed for more than one year and not a decade, but there is no factual material. Why write or did you suddenly want to annoy both sides of the discussion?
  11. Catherine II
    Catherine II 18 February 2017 13: 33
    +1
    We would like an example of a “victory over corruption” in an East Slavic country with a population of more than or equal to 40 million.
    As for the people's choices, then you need to vote not for the one who speaks more convincingly (read lies) or who has the spit more beautiful, or the blow is stronger. It is necessary to support those political forces that demonstrate their professionalism and are able to carry out the required transformations of the state not only in words but also in deeds. We need those who will set and gradually achieve real, rather than fantastic goals. To build a successful state comes to the fore efficiency, not spectacularity.

    Good advice, how did you not immediately think of it, and most importantly, did not figure out where to get them. They even tried to invite the Vikings.
    You can of course ask how with this RF and translate the arrows as you have with what the author described, but not worth it. This is a common topic and the tag Ukraine allows you to talk about the problem.
    In Ukraine, they are trying ways to somehow limit corruption (Varangians, external management, manipulation of flows, etc.) - so far not so much.
    1. minus
      minus 19 February 2017 08: 33
      0
      “In Ukraine, they are trying to somehow limit corruption (Varangians, external management, manipulating flows, etc.), so far not very.” - This is in no way connected with the fight against corruption. The main goal is to put in full control and carry out reforms in their interests. Or do you seriously think that someone is seriously interested in eliminating corruption in Ukraine? So corrupt officials are easier to manage and remove the objectionable.
      1. Catherine II
        Catherine II 20 February 2017 12: 59
        +1
        Quote: Minus
        Or do you seriously think that someone is seriously interested in eliminating corruption in Ukraine? So corrupt officials are easier to manage and remove the objectionable.

        under the capitalist system, the fight against corruption is populism. The result for the country would be its restriction.