On the protection of the honor and dignity of the President of the Russian Federation

There was a discussion in the network and in the mass media about the proposal coming from the chairman of the State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin. Recall: Vyacheslav Volodin voiced the initiative about the possibility of adopting a law to protect the honor and dignity of the President of the Russian Federation, including in the international arena. The idea was voiced after the question at a meeting of students and teachers of Innopolis University, which is engaged in developments in the field of information technology. At Volodin’s University, they asked if he thought that today the President of the Russian Federation “is rolling.”

Vyacheslav Volodin replied:

I believe that this institution (presidential institution) must be protected. Why are you right - because all international experience suggests that such laws are not just necessary, they are everywhere. The president, after he is elected, heads the institute, the presidency institute. All institutions are protected, but it turned out that this issue is not regulated by law in Russia. But all this should always be compared with how abroad. We don’t have this question today, although you are right in saying that it should be discussed, because it is a security issue of our institutions.

The speaker of the lower house of the Russian parliament recalled that in the US several people were convicted under the article on the protection of the honor and dignity of the president. We are talking about court decisions against several Americans who published offensive and false information about Barack Obama when he was president of the United States.

The liberal media have already called the initiative to protect the institution of the presidency as a “new step towards authoritarianism” in Russia. It turns out that the liberal mass media of the Russian Federation have found the courage to admit that in the United States, where such a law has been in effect for a long time - an authoritarian system of power ...

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[dik-nsk]

Of course it’s necessary, there’s only one thing that mattresses have on the mattresses against Trump - they’ll immediately go out with a wolf ticket, and our people, especially with the Internet, have completely forgotten how to answer for the market

[Zibelew]

In May 1990, a similar law was adopted to protect the honor and dignity of the President of the USSR. It provided for fines and correctional labor, as well as up to three years of imprisonment for citizens who publicly insulted and slandered Mikhail Gorbachev, and up to six years for malefactors who do this through the media.
Gorbachev did not help, unpleasant associations arise ...

[bouncyhunter]

Tagiryan, hello!

The liberal media have already called the initiative to defend the institution of the presidency a “new step towards authoritarianism” in Russia.

I had no doubt that the liberals would conquer and stomp their feet. Give them just a reason. Although, they don’t need a reason - they’ll come up with it themselves!

[NEXUS]

Pasha, welcome!

Quote: bouncyhunter

Give them just a reason. Although, they don’t need a reason - they’ll come up with it themselves!

I don’t think ... the liberal movement is in disgrace, so they can stink, but who will listen to them?

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Andrew !

I don’t think ... the liberal movement is in disgrace, so they can stink, but who will listen to them?

Well, who are the gay men and mattresses! Liberasts are paid because of the puddle precisely to stink more often and smelly!

[Zibelew]

Hi Paul! Forever on this forum the liberals are scolded. Yes, they need to be scolded. They harm Russia. But who holds them in power, no matter how the president? What is the use of Medvedev, Kudrin, Gref and the like?

[bouncyhunter]

If I knew the answer to your question, Tagiryan, I either sat in an office on Lubyanka, or in some country that does not have an extradition agreement, either in Lefortovo, or (most likely) dived 2 meters underground .. . By the way, call me Pasha, somehow more familiar.

[voyaka uh]

"But who holds them in power, no matter how the president? What is the use of Medvedev, Kudrin, Gref and the like?" ///

But the president is not stupid, he understands that if Volodin-Rogozins remain, then only the skin on Pop will wrap their tongues ... and take it on
the calculator "+" and "-" someone needs.

[Alf]

Quote: voyaka uh

"But who holds them in power, no matter how the president? What is the use of Medvedev, Kudrin, Gref and the like?" ///

But the president is not stupid, he understands that if Volodin-Rogozins remain, then only the skin on Pop will wrap their tongues ... and take it on
the calculator "+" and "-" someone needs.

But do these curls-Medvedev-grefs know how to count? Judging by the ahovost affairs in the economy, no.

[Orionvit]

Some do not have to pay. Dirt is an indispensable attribute of their soul.

[novel66]

not even that - if they stink, it’s right

[Karabin]

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Quote: NEXUS

liberal movement in disgrace

They sit scorched in ministerial and Duma chairs.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Karabin

They sit scorched in ministerial and Duma chairs.

Eat this kind of good in any country ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: dik-nsk

Of course it’s necessary, there’s only one thing that mattresses have on the mattresses against Trump - they’ll immediately go out with a wolf ticket, and our people, especially with the Internet, have completely forgotten how to answer for the market

The conversation is about defending the honor of the president in the international arena. Remember how our president was received in Australia and what the presidents of Canada, Australia and the United States spoke about GDP ... remember the statements and insults of Macaques that he publicly addressed to our president ...

[bouncyhunter]

Regarding the protection of the president’s honor in the international arena, I think this: blundered obscenity - get personal sanctions in response.

[Senior manager]

Americans in such cases steal the offender, for the court at home. This is their practice, we must adopt. We’ll fix a bit of the matter in the state, and, following the example of the “exceptional” ones, we must be called to account in court in Russia.

[NEXUS]

Quote: St. Propulsion

Americans in such cases steal the offender, for the court at home.

I remember the case of the Filipino president and the subsequent apologies, Panamanian, when the OSCE didn’t particularly bother, took the UNami by the neck and dragged him to court ...

[AUL]

Well, to our laws abroad, to put it mildly, sneezed. Personal sanctions against a journalist or just a private person - not even funny. So they will use it mainly "for internal use." Well, you all know the practice of applying laws. Anyone can, if desired, be brought under any article, and anyone can be disregarded from any article. It all depends on the order.

[novel66]

why, the journalist blurted out obscene - the refusal to accredit the entire publication, all banned

[AUL]

Well, VO under such a law is completely banned, for example, to Ukraine and the United States. And is this sad for someone?

[novel66]

we are patriots, it is good for us and in our land

[KGB WATCH YOU]

of course it is necessary

Yeah. At all times, normal people defended the "poor and weak." Putin, as you know, is one of those. Every evening sits and cries at the window, everyone thinks how some hungry old woman or overseas macaque insulted him. Do not set off, the State Duma, another imitation of the vibrant activity before the presidential election.

[Bath]

The Institute of Presidency has outlived itself time it is time to move the kingdom of a comrade and that the old guard checked how many years is at the helm

[Alf]

Quote: Bath

The Institute of Presidency has outlived itself time it is time to move the kingdom of a comrade and that the old guard checked how many years is at the helm

So on the new coins already on both heads of the chicken crowns have already appeared, and the chicken legs are holding the power and the scepter. So, soon the king-priest will officially appear.

[Alex Justice]

And what prevents Putin from suing?

[Alf]

Quote: Alex Justice

And what prevents Putin from suing?

What he can hear in response about his system of governing the country.

[volot-voin]

"Democracy" - a tool for the collapse of the state, used by the world elite. The states that left a contribution to history were authoritarian, even if you take such as ancient Rome, Hellas ... they were rather tightly controlled and were centralized under external democracy, the Senate, various Dumas, Rada, Veche, and parliaments. We would try in ancient Rome to go to the podium and shout that Roe ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: volot-voin

We would try in ancient Rome to go to the podium and shout that Roe de Mu ... k, and would look in what way you would then be executed))))

the example of Rome is doubtful ... especially, as you recall, as the treasury was replenished, with the help of the wives of the senators ...

[AID.S]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

especially, as you recall.

There are still witnesses ....

[Sling cutter]

Quote: AID.S

There are still witnesses ....

a lot of them

[volot-voin]

Quote: AID.S

There are still witnesses ....

4 guards who kept Rome famous series Witnesses of the chronicles, the works of the ancient Romans, archeology ..... Theodore Momsen recommend.

[Vasiliev Yu]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Quote: volot-voin

We would try in ancient Rome to go to the podium and shout that Roe de Mu ... k, and would look in what way you would then be executed))))

the example of Rome is doubtful ... especially, as you recall, as the treasury was replenished, with the help of the wives of the senators ...

Yes, we don’t need that. We need this: instead of the wives and husbands of the Duma and senators themselves send to earn money. A lot of money can bring treasury. For some ill-conceived law, there are many who wish to popularly explain to them in bed that they are wrong.
Then either the laws would be normal, which would have a positive effect on the treasury, or they themselves would replenish the treasury. And so, and so the gain would be.

[dik-nsk]

there is still a good expression by Joseph Vissarionovich “I believed that democracy is the power of the people, but Comrade Roosevelt lucidly explained to me that democracy is the power of the American people”))

[PatriotRU]

Democracy, this is the People's Power, you have a distorted concept of it! Moreover, centralization and a strong vertical of power do not contradict DEMOCRACY! As long as the government in our country is not accountable and dependent on the people (that is, democratic), then we will live in poverty and lawlessness.

[AID.S]

Quote: volot-voin

We would try in ancient Rome to go to the podium and shout that Roe de Mu ... to

Interestingly, can anyone confirm this as a witness?

[Lawless]

Definitely !!!!
Liberasts must be pacified! Do not respect the choice of the majority !! Attacks on the president are attacks on the whole country !!!

[PatriotRU]

Do you think that the whole people support United Russia? Liberalism as such is not such a bad thing, you do not understand the terminology, extend this term to a group of people who can not be called liberals. Attacks on the president as an official of the Russian Federation should be punishable, but if a person is against his policy, they should not be punished in any way. For how many people, so many opinions

[Lawless]

No, I wrote about the majority. I did not write that liberalism should be eradicated. This group of people positions itself that way (if We are talking about the same thing). The article says "about honor and dignity."

[PatriotRU]

You yourself contradict yourself, for example, I am a liberalist, that is, for the inviolability of human rights and individual freedoms. When I criticize the Presidential policy (I do not criticize the position), I personally criticize his position, not the people or the country. It’s just that they can completely remove any dissent from us

[Lawless]

Once again - "On Honor and Dignity" ... criticize politics, you have a right to it, constructive criticism is always welcome. You will not please everyone.
And the rest: - "Your expectations are your problems."

[apro]

De Gaulle leafing through the Parisian newspapers once said that there are no jokes about him, it means his popularity among the French is falling. Why is this law ???? whom does he protect ??? the president from the people ??? After all, there are enough legal methods to solve this problem still drink? ??

[Wildfox]

The problem is not the laws but the enforcement. The laws are amazing throughout the territory of the former USSR and we must live in happy states. Just an abstract example, why people attacking ambulance officers do not solder a term even for hooliganism with aggravating? Maybe because in the executive branch dofiga decided?

[raid14]

And for us, that article 319 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation does not work?
Or back to resuscitation 3 chapters of the Criminal Code of the Russian Empire?
Articles from 100 to 106 are just right for this proposal, nothing needs to be invented.

[engineering]

Personally, my opinion, I think many people think the same way, insulted the president of the country, so they insulted the people who are led by the insulted president. The people elected a president for themselves and it should not be so that every mongrel, be she a citizen of any country, yanks toward the president elected by the people.

[dzvero]

If the president has the support of the people, then the law is not needed. If unpopular, then no law will help.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: dzvero

If unpopular, then no law will help.

and national guards for what?

[raid14]

"Forcibly you will not be sweet" - folk wisdom

[Sling cutter]

Quote: raid14

"Forcibly you will not be sweet" - folk wisdom

there is still wisdom: "the love of evil ........."

[raid14]

They will be afraid for sure, I'm not sure of the rest.
Oderint, dum metuant Caligula.

[Sling cutter]

the whole question is who will hate, inside or out.

[Vasiliev Yu]

Quote: raid14

"Forcibly you will not be sweet" - folk wisdom

That you just did not try BDSM.

[raid14]

Well, no, in my age such experiments are contraindicated!

[Vasiliev Yu]

And smart people say: it's never too late to learn.
And one more argument: try, what the hell is not joking, suddenly like it?))

[Cat man null]

Quote: Vasilyev u

Quote: raid14

"Forcibly you will not be sweet" - folk wisdom

That you just did not try BDSM.

- mdy ...

Quote: Vasilyev u

And I? Can you see me through too?

- Why see you? You are transparent, see the quote above.

[Vasiliev Yu]

Then to the heap.
As they say: on taste and color, all vibrators and dildos are different.
By the way. Envy of sin.

[Cat man null]

Quote: vasiliev yu

Then to the heap ...

- do not. Do not aggravate ... more, refrain

[Vasiliev Yu]

I am proud of my statements. Personally mine. If I’m not repeating my own, I’m trying to indicate whose or where it comes from.

[Kudrevkn]

Clear. that life is not honey! However, it is necessary to restrain your emotions from the tribe, although relatively recently, even with me, a calm and intelligent person, emotions have gone wild with “righteous anger” !? Regarding other well-known presidents, including naturally Vladimir Vladimirovich, I sometimes allow myself some liberty to call him in the German manner (memory of joint service in the GDR) - Valdemar Valdemarovich or "uncle" (his pseudonym for operational contact as a Stasi curator (counterintelligence on line 2 Headquarters of General Rogozin of the KGB of the USSR) in Saxony) ..

[askort154]

I am not against the law, but only with a note in the first paragraph

* except Gorbachev and Yeltsn!

[PSih2097]

Quote: askort154

I am not against the law, but only with a note in the first paragraph

* except Gorbachev and Yeltsn!

Chupa-Chupsa (DAM) was forgotten, but there is something for it ...

[Alexander S.]

Then you need to introduce a law on the protection of the honor and dignity of the institution of the common people in the form of deprivation of the inviolability of all inviolable.

[lis-ik]

Such a law is absolutely necessary, but the opposite is also needed so that the Guarantor would not only voice the figures from the high stands prepared by the government, but also have a full understanding of the current state of affairs in the country, the dominance and arbitrariness of some governors who lobby for the interests of corporations and retailers especially in the Moscow region, so that words about supporting small and medium-sized businesses do not break against the wall of interests of small-town princes, then everything will be fair and retroactive.

[Alf]

Quote: lis-ik

so that the Guarantor would not only voice the figures from the high stands prepared by the government, but also have a complete picture of the current state of affairs in the country, the dominance and arbitrariness of some governors lobbying for the interests of corporations and retailers especially in the Moscow region, so that there would be words of support for small and medium-sized businesses did not break against the wall of the interests of small-town princes,

And then he, the poor one, doesn’t know ... And the “ignorance” of him fits very well in his answer. We don’t give our own.

[lis-ik]

So I'm talking about too.

[arlekin]

"Soldiers, children, they showed a fig to our king. We’ll die to the last!"
Cartoon "At the command of the pike." 1957
Once upon a time in children's tales it was a laugh, but now it is easy to pass such a law.
Muslims are trying to destroy those who disapprove of Allah, and we will have such a deity Putin.
Either Volodin’s own nonsense, for which "There is Putin - there is Russia, there is no Putin - there is no Russia", or our country is sliding into the feudal Middle Ages.

[Altona]

Quote: Zibelew

Forever on this forum the liberals are scolded. Yes, they need to be scolded. They harm Russia. But who holds them in power, no matter how the president? What is the use of Medvedev, Kudrin, Gref and the like?

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By the way, gozman, bulk and Kasyanov are not just kept. Yes, they are beeping for power and for Putin in particular, but with the adoption of such a law, all this camarilla will sit in places not so remote. Who will the authorities then release into the political circus? These are very convenient cardboard heroes, room opposition, which are easy and spectacular to bring down. And there’s no one to let in there, because our government doesn’t look at all with the communists and the deceased USSR (Stalin’s rating is steadily growing). So the law on honor and dishonor will interfere with the rating of power.

[vanavatny]

whose are you I'm Volodin ...

[demotivator]

Most of the participants in the discussion liked the draft of this law for some reason. But I don’t understand at all the necessity of its adoption, After all, President Putin has, according to all kinds of polls by Levada, VTsIOM, etc., ratings - for 80%! It appears that everyone loves him, everyone respects him. Well, not all, of course, remained another 20% of the unconscious. So, the adoption of this law will call into question - both the sincerity of the popular love for the guarantor of the Constitution, and the reliability of the information provided by the Levades on the results of the polls. Is not it? And anyway, what about jokes on this subject now? Well, under Stalin and Khrushchev, they say they planted him for it. Under Brezhnev they were poisoned with might and main and nothing. The Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU did not bother about this. And then what are you worried about?

[Ivan Ivanov]

Finally woke up. not only the president but also any state institutions in the international arena, first of all, and inside.

[Karabin]

... about the possibility of adopting a law on the protection of the honor and dignity of the President of the Russian Federation,

First of all, it is necessary to pass the law on the lifelong presidency of Mr. Putin (for Russia is Putin (TM)) with his declaration as the Anointed of God and his appeal to Your Excellency.
PS Is it neher to do in the Duma?

[KGB WATCH YOU]

I support. You can also hold a referendum (!) Regarding a lifetime presidency. Why protect the weak and the poor (state employees, the elderly, children) if the sun of the nation is at stake !!!

[Ivan Ivanov]

So, most of the theses mentioned above were not voiced by Putin, and the position of the Donbass is Ukraine, including Primakov.

[Alf]

Quote: IvanIvanov

So, most of the theses mentioned above were not voiced by Putin, and the position of the Donbass is Ukraine, including Primakov.

And you don’t need to shout some things from the stands, it’s enough to do them and the attitude will immediately become clear.

[fix]

And who will decide: criticism of the work or "offensive and false information about ..."?
And why only the president? Why not any citizen of the Russian Federation?

[Alf]

Quote: fix

And who will decide: criticism of the work or "offensive and false information about ..."?

And comrades with kind and tired eyes from the personal National Guard in the basement will decide.

Quote: fix

And why only the president? Why not any citizen of the Russian Federation?

Because the president, like the sun, has one and everything rests on him, and there are 140 million citizens in the country. Well, they have scolded some Vasya Pupkin, so what? And nothing, the country will not notice the loss of a fighter. And here we are talking about the One.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

The speaker of the lower house of the Russian parliament recalled that in the US several people were convicted under the article on the protection of the honor and dignity of the president. We are talking about court decisions against several Americans who published offensive and false information about Barack Obama when he was president of the United States.

There is an inaccuracy that should be clarified: "in the United States, several people were convicted under the article on protecting the honor and dignity of the president." Question: Were these several people convicted under the ordinary article "On the Protection of the Honor and Dignity of a Citizen," or on some special article "On the Protection of the Honor and Dignity of the US President"?
I don’t know why to apply the special articles “On the Protection of the Honor and Dignity of the President of the Country” if he is the same citizen whose honor and dignity should be defended no less. I do not read the liberal media at all. I need a link to the link in American law.

[gleb49]

It's time to cut off the tongues! It's time to build a second branch of BAM.

[Charond]

I met a neighbor today. In our area, a branch of Sbarbank and a clinic are being closed. What honor are they talking about dignity ?!

[Former battalion commander]

Public "defenses" of the honor and dignity of the president only lead to an increase in the popularity of those from whom they "defend". If the president is so weak that he cannot defend himself, then who can defend him? Wimp he is a wimp and no laws will make him stronger. For Russia, of course, such a law seems to be relevant, because of the overt weakness of the current government, but it will not add strength to this power, it will only emphasize its weakness.

[Alf]

Quote: Former Combat

If the president is so weak that he cannot defend himself, then who can defend him? Wimp he is a wimp and no laws will make him stronger. For Russia, of course, such a law seems to be relevant, because of the overt weakness of the current government, but it will not add strength to this power, it will only emphasize its weakness.

I imagine such a picture.
Basmanny court. Meeting. Agenda-Defending the honor and dignity of the president.
The plaintiff is your honor, I, the president, have been insulted by Uncle Vanya from the Housing Office, he called me an equine animal. Please punish him, otherwise I am ashamed to show my eyes.
Wouldn't the plaintiff himself be ashamed of appearing in the news?
For some reason, no-one in the world dared to insult ITTs, on the contrary, at the entrance to the conference room of Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt instantly jumped up.

[arlekin]

Quote: Alf

churchill and roosevelt instantly jumped up

About Roosevelt is strong.

[GUSAR]

I don’t understand the practical value and importance of this law. NAFIGA ?! Or you just had to lick ...

[Yegorchik]

Here, a bitch runs around my yard, from the fact that I will call her a female dog she will not cease to be a bitch.

[Alf]

Quote: Egorchik

Here, a bitch runs around my yard, from the fact that I will call her a female dog she will not cease to be a bitch.

And in Holland you would have been condemned ...

[vik71]

It's always fun to watch how Medvedev and KO try their best to make smart faces at meetings in front of TV. This greatly annoys our non-replaceable, endlessly rotatable, irreplaceable first persons, they apparently consider this the main work. Even under such a facial expression, great phrases are very suitable: "The bottom has been reached - there is a rise", "It is necessary for everyone to tighten their belts", "Sanctions only united Russia" or the famous "Our Crimea"

[Alf]

Quote: vik71

It's always fun to watch how Medvedev and KO try their best to make smart faces at meetings in front of TV.

Maybe not Medvedev and Co., but Putin and company? Or "the king is good, the boyars are bad"?