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Abrams modernization program launched in the USA

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US Department of Defense Launches Modernization Program tank M1A2 Abrams up to SEP V4, reports Warspot resource message armyrecognition.com.



As stated in the Pentagon, by the year 2021, the machine will reach a new technological level. "The new modification of the Abrams will be" more deadly, easy, fast and protected. At the same time, the focus will be on electronics, ”the article says.

In the tank will be replaced all the instruments and sensors. This "will allow to expand the internal space and make the working conditions of the crew more comfortable," the resource notes.

The updated car will receive a circular video surveillance system equipped with all-weather color cameras. The commander and gunner "will be able to detect and identify targets at a much greater distance thanks to the new FLIR sensors and a more powerful laser range finder that can operate in any weather and light level," the newspaper writes.



The survival rate of the tank will increase due to new systems for detecting laser radiation and lightweight, but more durable armor. Also on the tank is planned to install the Israeli system of protection Trophy.

The gun will remain the same - the M120 256-mm smoothbore gun. His destructive power will be increased by new ammunition.

The system of electric power supply will also undergo changes: “in addition to the engine, electricity will be able to produce a separate power unit, which will keep the tank in alert when the engine is turned off,” the publication says.



Recall about the modernization program being developed became known in 2016 year. The Pentagon said at the time that the Abrams would remain the main battle tank until at least 2035.
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  1. Altona
    Altona 14 February 2017 10: 46
    +28
    How is the fate of the charging Negro, very interested?
    1. cniza
      cniza 14 February 2017 10: 55
      +8
      According to the Pentagon, by 2021, the car will reach a new technological level. "A new modification of the" Abrams "will be" more deadly, light, fast and secure.


      Everyone started to fuss, after the release of Almaty, ... now we’ll run.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 14 February 2017 11: 00
        +20
        Quote: Altona
        How is the fate of the charging Negro, very interested?

        Yes, he will replace the automatic loader ...
        Quote: cniza
        Everyone fussed after the release of Almaty

        What's the point? How much can mattresses explain:
        From the letters "p", "f", "o" and "a" it is impossible to compose the word "Armata"!
        lol
        1. dik-nsk
          dik-nsk 14 February 2017 12: 20
          +1
          "there is no money, but you hold on" in the American way))))) apparently did not dare to sponsor a new generation tank after calculating the costs for f-35))
    2. Wild_grey_wolf
      Wild_grey_wolf 14 February 2017 11: 00
      +4
      Such a ship, with dimensions, you can install anything, without problems, it is strange that they still can not get rid of the loader.
      1. viktor.
        viktor. 14 February 2017 12: 08
        +5
        And the police cannot cope with the utilization of blacks laughing
      2. The comment was deleted.
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 14 February 2017 11: 08
      +11
      Quote: Altona
      How is the fate of the charging Negro, very interested?

      They will also modernize it, they will give out gauntlets and will allow them to sit in a corner. hi
    4. The comment was deleted.
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 14 February 2017 10: 48
    +8
    This “will allow to expand the internal space and make the working conditions of the crew more comfortable”

    Well, probably, and the rate of fire will be at the height? Go and find out what, cannon charge! bully laughing
    1. viktor.
      viktor. 14 February 2017 12: 09
      +2
      is he with limpopo? wassat
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 14 February 2017 21: 59
        +2
        viktor.
        is he with limpopo?
        No. From USA. laughing
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother 14 February 2017 12: 13
      +2
      Quote: Observer2014
      Well, probably, and the rate of fire will be at the height? Go and find out what, cannon charge!

      First you have to put the black man in the fighting compartment, and then set the tower on the shoulder strap.
    3. Maz
      Maz 14 February 2017 13: 44
      +4
      Shaw, the IDF will release licensed copies of the Negro-Chargers for Merkav too? Or will it cost the orthodox?
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 14 February 2017 16: 39
        +3
        Quote: Maz
        Or will it cost the orthodox?

        Tanks will not fire on Saturdays.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 February 2017 10: 49
    +2
    "A new modification of the" Abrams "will be" more deadly, light, fast and secure. In this case, the main focus will be on electronics, ”the material says.
    Some kind of vinigret. Where is lightness, speed of security and electronics?
  4. san4es
    san4es 14 February 2017 10: 51
    +12
    How many “Abrams” do not feed, all the same, it will not become newer.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 14 February 2017 10: 55
      +7
      Quote: san4es
      How many “Abrams” do not feed, all the same, it will not become newer.

      Mattresses have no alternative to replacing Abrams, so they upgrade what they have today. For me, the resource for modernizing the Abrasha ended 10 years ago ...
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 14 February 2017 11: 31
        +5
        Quote: NEXUS
        Mattresses have no alternative to replacing Abrams, so they upgrade what they have today.

        Merkava 4 with Trophy is a serious argument. I will not compare the performance characteristics of the Merkava and the Abrams, but the trophy for today, worked out and put on the KAZ conveyor, which has been tested in real combat. The tank will have to be “lightened, given the weight characteristics of KAZ.
        Quote: NEXUS
        For me, the resource for modernizing abrashi ended 10 years ago ...

        T 72 example. hi
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 14 February 2017 11: 58
          +1
          ad trohe "-a in fact 0
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 14 February 2017 12: 46
            +5
            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            ad trohe "-a in fact 0

            Typically, such statements are accompanied by links and facts.
            In fact, while KAZ Arena has “0”, I’m not talking about “Afganit” yet. It is with great pleasure that I learn from you how many tanks in the armored forces of the Russian Federation are equipped with this system, when it went into production and who produces it. laughing
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 14 February 2017 13: 10
          +4
          Quote: kapitan92
          T 72 example.

          T-72, unlike abrashi, has a modernization resource much higher, despite the fact that the 72-ka is the most belligerent tank in the world, and given its price, the most massive. At the same time, what is the Abrams tank? It’s not exactly a tank, but an SPG designed for ambush tactics of use.
          Quote: kapitan92
          Merkava 4 with Trophy is a serious argument.

          Mattresses will never buy Merkava for their army ... besides, Merkava was created for the climate and the specific character of the terrain. And, for example, how will she behave in conditions of high humidity or low temperatures, can you answer? With the same success, you You could say that Leopard is suitable as an alternative. But you forgot that now, the West has rushed to catch up with us, after the appearance of Armata. So Leopard, which is not much better than Abrams, will not be bought by mattresses.
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 14 February 2017 13: 23
            +2
            Quote: NEXUS
            T-72, unlike abrashi, has a modernization resource much higher, despite the fact that the 72-ka is the most belligerent tank in the world, and given its price, the most massive.

            The apogee of modernization of the T 72, T 90 tank in various modifications, export or "domestic". Further “Armata”, which so far is only in the plans (party 100 units). About our KAZ tanks so far it’s not worth talking, it’s a great far away. There is no point in arguing about mass character and price, as well as about the loss of the mass tank itself in all conflicts.

            Quote: NEXUS
            Mattresses will never buy Merkava for their army ... besides, Merkava was created for the climate and the specific character of the area.

            We are discussing an article. It is also planned to install the Israeli Trophy defense system on the tank. Buy or not time will tell.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 14 February 2017 13: 28
              +5
              Quote: kapitan92
              The apogee of modernization of the T 72, T 90 tank in various modifications, export or "domestic".

              Exactly ... and what is the climax of Abrams, you can find out?
              Quote: kapitan92
              There is no point in arguing about mass character and price, as well as about the loss of the mass tank itself in all conflicts.

              Losses are inevitable if the equipment is at war, but not in the hangars. At the same time, often, T-72s are bought by states that do not even have elementary air defense systems, and at least a little bit of modern aviation, in order to cover their armored vehicles. An example of Iraq: the Iraqi air defense mattresses were gouged, and then Saddam’s tanks were shot in a dash ...
              1. kapitan92
                kapitan92 14 February 2017 13: 33
                +2
                Quote: NEXUS
                Exactly ... and what is the climax of Abrams, you can find out?

                We learn after modernization. hi
          2. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 14 February 2017 13: 30
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            In addition, Merkava was created for the climate and the specific character of the area


            and what is the character of the terrain in Israel do you know?
            mountain plain sand? desert sub tropical climate?
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 14 February 2017 13: 35
              +5
              Quote: Maki Avellievich
              and what is the character of the terrain in Israel do you know?
              mountain plain sand? desert sub tropical climate?

              Tell me, is Merkava capable of driving off-road, say, blurred with mud, or at -40 to work normally? At the same time, what is Merkava essentially? This is a puzzle from German, American and Israeli units, which were put together, and it turned out what happened.
              1. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich 14 February 2017 16: 43
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Tell me, is Merkava capable of traveling off-road, let's say blurred by mud?



                no problem
              2. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich 14 February 2017 16: 52
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                Or at -40 work in normal mode?


                I do not think that Merkava -40 will pull.
                and how will the tank \ crew of the t-80 \ 72 \ 90 work at a temperature of +46?
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 14 February 2017 17: 31
                  +4
                  Quote: Maki Avellievich
                  and how will the tank \ crew of the t-80 \ 72 \ 90 work at a temperature of +46?

                  There was such a story, in my opinion in Libya ... I could be mistaken ... set the USSR to this T-72 state ... the Israelis watched a column of these tanks move through the desert — they drove for 20 minutes, and stood for half an hour. Could not understand what was the matter. And the thing was as follows - these 72s were delivered with stoves that did not turn off. The crews drove for 20 minutes, and for half an hour they cooled under the tanks. wink That's something like ... laughing
            2. commbatant
              commbatant 15 February 2017 16: 16
              0
              Quote: Maki Avellevich
              Quote: NEXUS
              In addition, Merkava was created for the climate and the specific character of the area


              and what is the character of the terrain in Israel do you know?
              mountain plain sand? desert sub tropical climate?



              Although Israel is a small country, it has a wide variety of climatic zones - from moderately hot and semi-moist (in the north and west) to arid and desert (in the south and east). The diversity of the climate is caused by the proximity of the sea in the west, the desert and complex terrain - in the east. Perhaps you can talk about only two seasons: a cool rainy winter and a hot, dry summer. Typically, rains begin in late October, increase in December - February and stop in April. Precipitation is unevenly distributed: there are more in the north and west and less in the south and east. Snow rarely falls and mainly in mountainous areas (Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed). True, the snow lies a day, from the strength of two and then melts. The exception is Mount Hermon, where the snow lies in dense cover from December to April.
              In the spring months from the east, a hot wind often comes from the desert - hamsin ("fifty" in Arabic), or Sharav (in Hebrew, which can be translated as dry wind). The air temperature rises sharply, then calmness sets in, air saturated with sand and dust hardly moves. Sometimes hamsin is accompanied by sandstorms, from which the daytime sky becomes whitish.
              http://piratyy.narod.ru/priroda/priroda.html

              where are the subtropics here? cheating again "orphans"
          3. lis-ik
            lis-ik 14 February 2017 14: 02
            +2
            The electric power supply system will also undergo changes: “in addition to the engine, a separate power plant will be able to generate electricity, which will make it possible to keep the tank on alert when the engine is off,”
            I would like to clarify, but had it not been before?
            1. Niccola Mack
              Niccola Mack 15 February 2017 06: 49
              0
              Actually - it wasn’t !!!
              A “bulletproof” box with APU was hung either behind the stern or behind the tower.
              And more often - they did not hang, because he was easily amazed.
              As a result, one battery was added to the tanks.
              A full-fledged diesel APU stands on the Challenger - inside, next to the main engine - provides power, recharges the batteries and starts the main engine.
              Apparently now this will be on the “Abrams”.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 14 February 2017 21: 39
        +1
        Well, where did it end then? A healthy fool, at least change the electronics on it, install a different gun, at least Kaz, at least DZ, at least new shells, of almost any size - only if the loader could handle them.
  5. mamont5
    mamont5 14 February 2017 10: 51
    +1
    Quote: Altona
    How is the fate of the charging Negro, very interested?

    Apparently, “he” will swing on the new super simulator, which will increase his strength and automatism to acceptable values.
  6. Wedmak
    Wedmak 14 February 2017 10: 52
    +2
    more powerful laser range finder, capable of operating in any weather and lighting level

    Probably able to disperse the fog and dry the rain.
    The survival of the tank will increase due to new systems for detecting laser radiation and lightweight, but more durable armor.

    That is, dynamic protection is still clogged.
    Its lethal force will be increased due to new ammunition.

    Can the gun survive? Or will we shove rockets there?
    in addition to the engine, electricity will be able to generate a separate power plant, which will keep the tank on alert when the engine is off

    Like before it was not there?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 14 February 2017 10: 56
      +3
      Quote: Wedmak

      That is, dynamic protection is still clogged.
      bet on KAZ.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 14 February 2017 11: 59
        0
        KAZ in the Donbass has shown its insolvency, so comb the haze about KAZ
        1. sir.jonn
          sir.jonn 14 February 2017 12: 13
          +5
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          KAZ in the Donbass has shown its insolvency, so comb the haze about KAZ

          What the hell is KAZ in the Donbas, what are you talking about?
        2. Maz
          Maz 14 February 2017 13: 47
          +3
          Choto, I did not see him there on APU machines, and even more so on DLNR machines
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 February 2017 11: 45
      +1
      Quote: Wedmak
      Like before it was not there?

      Even as it was - precisely because of its successful location, the first “Abrams” could be destroyed even from the DShK. smile
      The story of the movement of the APU on the "abram" is another epic.
  7. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 February 2017 11: 04
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    According to the Pentagon, by 2021, the car will reach a new technological level. "A new modification of the" Abrams "will be" more deadly, light, fast and secure.


    Everyone started to fuss, after the release of Almaty, ... now we’ll run.

    No one will run anywhere. What are you straight brothers ????
    Ordinary routine work. We are also constantly upgrading the T-90, so what. Can't the countries of the likely enemy stand still? Until ARMATA they still crawl and crawl. Moreover, they improve it in the design process.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 14 February 2017 11: 15
      +2
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Ordinary routine work. We are also constantly upgrading the T-90, so what. Can't the countries of the likely enemy stand still? Until ARMATA they still crawl and crawl. Moreover, they improve it in the design process.

      There will be no Armat in the West. They emphasize the creation of more modern anti-tank systems.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 14 February 2017 12: 04
        +1
        But what modern ones ??? not the ones that the ancient T-62 did not take on board
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 14 February 2017 21: 46
          +1
          Which ones don’t take it? And why do you think they are modern?
      2. Maz
        Maz 14 February 2017 13: 49
        +2
        Toto they Abramsy in the Baltic region throw
  8. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 February 2017 11: 08
    0
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    bet on KAZ

    And on the optimization of shells. There will be three. They will undermine the ammunition and no protection will save!
  9. Finches
    Finches 14 February 2017 11: 12
    +2
    Quote: Altona
    How is the fate of the charging Negro, very interested?


    There are enough of these kids in America! Now another unemployed nigga has appeared ... laughing
  10. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 February 2017 11: 24
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    Ordinary routine work. We are also constantly upgrading the T-90, so what. Can't the countries of the likely enemy stand still? Until ARMATA they still crawl and crawl. Moreover, they improve it in the design process.

    There will be no Armat in the West. They emphasize the creation of more modern anti-tank systems.

    Well, is this still a grandmother for two said? We love to disclose our achievements before we have achieved success. That is why the authors of the joint German-French tank of the future with their 140 mm cannon silenced Rheinmetall suspiciously
    1. filalex79
      filalex79 14 February 2017 12: 20
      +2
      Yes, because it will turn out to be a tank 1,5 times heavier than their vaunted leopard, that’s 70-75 tons. Accordingly, its maneuverability will be worse than the same leopard, inside the tank it will become even closer or the size of the machine will increase, and the BC will decrease. Yes, the transition to a new caliber is the creation of a whole line of new ammunition, these are lengthy tests, and this is not small money.
  11. Machete
    Machete 14 February 2017 11: 33
    0
    Where is it easy if they only made it heavier?
    This will need to be completely processed.
    In short, it will be a completely new tank.
    But will it be?
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 14 February 2017 12: 07
      +1
      that's for sure, they have no strong tanks, let them start
  12. Shuttle
    Shuttle 14 February 2017 11: 46
    0
    Quote: Observer2014
    This “will allow to expand the internal space and make the working conditions of the crew more comfortable”

    Well, probably, and the rate of fire will be at the height? Go and find out what, cannon charge! bully laughing

    Such in the hatch will not get through. :)
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 February 2017 13: 36
      0
      Quote: Shuttle
      Such in the hatch will not get through. :)

      Do not need. They are directly planted in the building through the tower shoulder strap - and then the tower is placed on top. smile
  13. nsws3
    nsws3 14 February 2017 12: 01
    +1
    New light armor.
    How is it, modernization, and the case is new ?!
    A muddy probable adversary or, as always, the media freezes garbage.
    1. Machete
      Machete 14 February 2017 12: 36
      0
      This is the new main tank! )
      Duck, in short.
  14. basil200
    basil200 14 February 2017 12: 04
    0
    Quote: Shuttle
    Quote: Observer2014
    This “will allow to expand the internal space and make the working conditions of the crew more comfortable”

    Well, probably, and the rate of fire will be at the height? Go and find out what, cannon charge! bully laughing

    Such in the hatch will not get through. :)

    And they come from the factory.
  15. filalex79
    filalex79 14 February 2017 12: 09
    0
    "a more powerful laser rangefinder, capable of operating in any weather and lighting level." And if it rains, snowfall, fog?
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 14 February 2017 13: 34
      +1
      Quote: filalex79
      "a more powerful laser rangefinder, capable of operating in any weather and lighting level." And if it rains, snowfall, fog?


      and if a herd of antelopes jumps in front of the sight?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 February 2017 13: 38
        +1
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        and if a herd of antelopes jumps in front of the sight?

        In our conditions, rain, snow, fog are much more likely.
        For example, in our Minas Morgul-on-Neva, all this can be found during one winter day. smile
      2. Maz
        Maz 14 February 2017 13: 52
        +2
        The fact is that most of the days in the year are sunny. They killed the antelopes, small boars, the main Schaub in the winter there was no ice, the Dead Sea was drained almost to the bottom. You’ll pass the sharaf under the mazgan.
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 14 February 2017 16: 37
          0
          Quote: Maz
          Antelope killed, small boars



          normal boars
  16. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 February 2017 12: 28
    0
    Quote: filalex79
    Yes, because it will turn out to be a tank 1,5 times heavier than their vaunted leopard, that’s 70-75 tons. Accordingly, its maneuverability will be worse than the same leopard, inside the tank it will become even closer or the size of the machine will increase, and the BC will decrease. Yes, the transition to a new caliber is the creation of a whole line of new ammunition, these are lengthy tests, and this is not small money.

    Yes, I know that? I'm talking about the other. About suspicious silence. I do not think that the project was closed. Surely there are some developments. Or maybe they are looking for a loophole to stibr ours. Like Israel, the "Black Eagle" stole
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 February 2017 13: 11
      +1
      "Like Israel," The Black Eagle "stole" ///

      How did Israel steal it? I know nothing...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 14 February 2017 13: 33
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        How did Israel steal it? I know nothing...

        Do you recall the head of the Omsk Technical Bureau A. Sakov?
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 14 February 2017 13: 47
          +2
          V. Baranets, Komsomolskaya Pravda, article: "Traitors"
      2. Maz
        Maz 14 February 2017 13: 53
        +2
        It is interesting how he stole it. Enlighten us.
    2. stone
      stone 14 February 2017 13: 12
      0
      Yes, I know that? I'm talking about the other. About suspicious silence. I do not think that the project was closed. Surely there are some developments. Or maybe they are looking for a loophole to stibr ours. Like Israel, the "Black Eagle" stole

      Was a couple of years ago in Latrun - the Israeli tank museum. Che didn’t see the Black Eagle there! laughing
  17. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 February 2017 13: 15
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "Like Israel," The Black Eagle "stole" ///

    How did Israel steal it? I know nothing...

    Well, look. Google to help. So it was stolen that the security chief who was in charge of the secret wanted to shoot himself.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 February 2017 13: 19
      +1
      In short, stolen or not? belay
    2. Maz
      Maz 14 February 2017 13: 56
      +2
      Do not dishonor the flag, which eagle and merkava. One word is charging.
  18. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 February 2017 13: 17
    0
    Quote: stone
    Che didn’t see the Black Eagle there!

    To steal doesn’t mean to put it on the conveyor. Or didn’t you know about it? Moreover, all the documentation could not be taken out!
    1. stone
      stone 14 February 2017 13: 19
      0
      And then what was stolen if they could not be taken out? Contradict yourself
  19. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 February 2017 13: 22
    0
    Quote: stone
    And then what was stolen if they could not be taken out? Contradict yourself

    To steal is not to steal completely. Where is the contradiction? Read correctly and you will find happiness laughing
    1. stone
      stone 14 February 2017 13: 31
      +1
      So I suggest you explain what exactly they stole, a gun, AZ, KAZ, armor, etc. How is this manifested in Israeli tank building? Well, just the Black Eagle and Merkava 4 are, as it were, completely different tanks, with different approaches. Do you teach your relatives to read correctly? wink
  20. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 14 February 2017 13: 37
    0
    Quote: stone
    So I suggest you explain what exactly they stole, a gun, AZ, KAZ, armor, etc. How is this manifested in Israeli tank building? Well, just the Black Eagle and Merkava 4 are, as it were, completely different tanks, with different approaches. Do you teach your relatives to read correctly? wink

    But who will tell you: There was news about the theft of technical documentation of an experimental tank ((Object 640) T-95 Black Eagle. I didn’t want to offend!
  21. beer-youk
    beer-youk 14 February 2017 16: 27
    0
    Having doused the body's vital product with chocolate, it is naive to expect that it will become a candy!
  22. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 14 February 2017 17: 36
    0
    Good tank. At one time, in the Judgment War, he showed himself well.
  23. Sivasa
    Sivasa 14 February 2017 17: 54
    +2
    I would like to ask everyone who is worried about charging ...
    1). How many rounds in the AZ of the t-72 and t-90?
    2). And how many shots in total in the car?
    3). And who and how charges these tanks when the bk is used up in AZ?
    4). And the term tank rack in the BO as you?
    5). Has anyone tried to equip a carousel with a shell in a winter outfit?
    6). And someone tried to rotate the carousel and raise the tray MANUALLY with the engine off and with half-dead batteries.

    Just do not talk about Armata. It is not in service and it is not clear when it appears.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 15 February 2017 08: 45
      +1
      "Just do not talk about Armata. She is not in service and it is not clear when she appears."

      September 8.09.2016, 14 - RIA Novosti. Uralvagonzavod has begun delivering T-2016 tanks to the Russian army on the Armata universal platform, Oleg Sienko, director general of UVZ, said in an interview with RIA Novosti on the sidelines of the Army XNUMX forum.
      but the real people in this office, referred to as “evil tongues”, talk about the presence of about 100 ready-made units, given that for example in Germany there are 2 units of Leo-250 combat-ready units, then this is not enough, moreover, if that says the representative Oleg Sienko, until 2020, the Ministry of Defense will have 2300 units of T-14, so that the horizon is visible
      1. Sivasa
        Sivasa 15 February 2017 13: 17
        0
        1). Most of all about this project says the factory-manufacturer. What is clear, a new expensive car is a piece of budget. The military comment on this less actively. But they are actively ordering modernization of 72 matches.
        2). The results of the activities of Mr. Sienko are known. UVZ in a pre-bankrupt state was transferred to Russian Technologies. Sienko himself was immediately fired. So, this is an interested, and therefore ambiguous source.
        3). As you yourself understand, to a new tank, which is heavier and larger than the previous lines, it is necessary to create and master everything new - personnel, ARVs, repair facilities, spare parts nomenclature, etc. Actually Armata in linear units, still written with a pitchfork on water.
        4). We are now armed with the t-80, t-72, t-90. Moreover, each of the models in various modifications. It is proposed to add another car. This was possible in the USSR. But we remember how it all ended.

        So this is a weak source.
        1. commbatant
          commbatant 15 February 2017 16: 20
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          We are now in service - t-80, t-72, t-90. Moreover, each of the models in various modifications. It is proposed to add another car. This was possible in the USSR. But we remember how it all ended.


          So they decided to send t-80s to the north (though there are too many of them for the North - 3 thousand pieces) to guard the bears, and the t-72s will be brought to the t-90 level
        2. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 21 February 2017 10: 43
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          "So this is a weak source."
          from what is weak. very, very not weak but quite real
          of course, it’s possible to gossip at the expense of undercover battles, but how it’s basking in this new business, the “ice has broken” while in the world tank building the pack of ice is completely packed in this business, and it is likely that it will not be thawed soon.
          at the expense of the third point .... not everything is as disastrous as it seems, the engine-transmission characteristics are the same as for the previous Teshek, the difference is inside, it is an electronic base on a single bus, for example, as in aviation, what makes the Su-3 different Grandfather Su-35? right, the electronic base, but the design of the airframe has not undergone major changes, and here, there is a breakthrough, and it is significant
          1. Sivasa
            Sivasa 22 February 2017 15: 51
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            The source is therefore interested and weak. Please note, the military says much less about the new tank than its developer and manufacturer. at least in a public field.

            For 3 points. Armata is seriously heavier and healthier than what is in service. When she stalled at the rehearsal of the parade (a matter of everyday life), the full-time AREM could not budge her! This is on the videos. I mean, under Armata there is no operational and transport infrastructure. I would suggest that in the medium term it will go only to the "front" parts and may be in some kind of trial operation. The total number - a few dozen pieces.
            Regarding the pack freeze over the hill. There is a place to be. In Europe, seriously relaxed. And beyond the ocean, obviously, they do not plan to build anything new until the Abrams’s complete physical deterioration. I am firmly convinced that you have all the necessary resources to make a new tank. Apparently, this is not a priority for them.
  24. Wolka
    Wolka 14 February 2017 18: 36
    +1
    I hope the Yankees have an internal biosortier of increased capacity in their box provided ...
    1. Sivasa
      Sivasa 22 February 2017 15: 58
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      Opposite me, in the office, there is a seventy-two-year-old graduate of Chelyaba who commanded a company and fought in the second Chechen one. He says he would be happy with the bio-styling in the t-72 and t-80. Because to spoil the war had everything at hand in the car.