Donbass in Ukrainian ticks

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Donbass in Ukrainian ticks


The Ukrainian army is trying to take the Donbass in ticks in order to subsequently crush. Apparently, Poroshenko is preparing a large-scale offensive in the near future. Such a kind of preparation for the next meeting of the "Norman Four" in the format of negotiations of the Ministers of Foreign Affairs.

Kiev “strategists” are well aware that they are waiting for them in Minsk in the near future (the exact date has not yet been set, but all the key players insist on urgency due to growing tensions), therefore they are trying to get ahead of events. The western allies of Poroshenko are trying to pacify their overly aggressive vassal (this is putting it mildly), and each individually has already painted a picture of a clown entangled bleak for reformers.



Donald Trump did this by phone and, judging by the reaction of Bankova and Ukrainian militants in the southeast, the “call for peace” was tough and not tolerant of reservations. For instructions Merkel Peter flew himself and received the same answer. Berlin and Washington are ordering Kiev to end the civil war, withdraw the troops and sit down at the negotiating table on conditions that are extremely unfavorable to the chocolate maker. France, it seems, is generally trying to wash their hands and shift the entire burden of responsibility to the "elder brothers."

It is a logical position, because Paris initially avoided the Ukrainian swamp and did not directly participate in the organization of the Kiev zoo, limited to verbal support and meager handouts in the form of humanitarian aid and microcredit.
Be that as it may, Poroshenko does not count on help from the Champs Elysees, and therefore did not rush there immediately after the rebuff. At the meeting in Minsk, the conditions will be dictated by two players - Moscow and Berlin.

Paris will either take a neutral position, or support the main stakeholders. Kiev is destined to “obey and obey” and Ukrainian diplomats only aggravate the situation every day and give up their positions in advance. After a series of scandals, arranged by Klimkin and the company, which recently rush to Europe, like a flock of wild monkeys, coercion humiliating for patriots can turn into a cruel and sophisticated spanking. Woe to the diplomats with three classes of parish behind their shoulders, in a very short time, they sentenced Ukraine and, in particular, their revolutionary regime to an international anathema. And every day they tighten tighter around their necks.

It is therefore not surprising that Poroshenko goes all-in and makes a bet on the war. He has no other way out, and while his mad monkeys are sputtering saliva, swaying society, he is preparing the shock fist of the APU for a breakthrough and an offensive in all directions.

And it is natural for him to spit on collateral losses. On the one hand, he will even benefit from another cauldron and thousands of corpses in Ukrainian morgues, for a public response washed with blood will help delay the inevitable fall. Although still another option, with a breakthrough and a successful offensive, it suits him more. This is exactly what the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been preparing for almost a month now, gradually increasing their strength and breaking the line of demarcation and a kind of neutral strip.

In spite of the fact that the Avdeevskaya adventure has ended in complete failure both “in the field” and in the diplomatic arena, the APU continue to press on the Donbass, and not only in the Donetsk direction. Yes, near Donetsk is the hottest now. Round-the-clock attacks and regular attacks by Ukrainian militants turned the industrial zone into such a hot spot that even OSCE observers loyal to Kiev could not withstand the pressure and, probably, for the first time in three years, they directly accused the Ukrainian Supreme Council of violating the Minsk agreements.

Usually deaf-blind Alexander Hug tried to rein in the APU and demanded to withdraw the troops, for which he was immediately branded in Kiev. Just a couple of days ago, he was openly accused of escalating the conflict. They say that these observers, by their careless actions, provoked the “heroes” into heavy fire, which by chance would not subside.

And while the OSCE, as usual, slowly digests the information and is only going to react, Poroshenko smartly prepared the country for a bloodbath. The draft law on the introduction of martial law has been processed and is awaiting only presidential consent. Still, still hoping to play on the billionth tranche of the IMF.

And the 600 of millions from the EU for the Carpathian forest has not been received yet. As soon as the money issues are resolved, Petya will happily sign the country's verdict and begin the final stage of the destruction of her fooled flock of sheep. In the meantime, the preparation for the slaughter is in full swing and the APU has imposed Donbass from three sides. The Ukrainian General Staff is trying to organize peculiar mites with an auxiliary group in the area of ​​Mariupol. And now Lugansk is in no less danger than Donetsk. With only one reservation, that the LC is still not being bombed.

According to Andrei Marochko, a representative of the people's militia of the Lugansk people's republic, Kiev, on the eve, strengthened the APU grouping in this direction, pulling Gvozdika self-propelled artillery, armored personnel carriers and trucks with ammunition to the front line. Also, trains with equipment and manpower arrive at the border almost weekly. In particular, two newly arrived self-propelled guns were spotted in the Popasnyansk region, accompanied by three armored personnel carriers and a dozen trucks with ammunition. Also Kiev throws special units for sabotage and subversive work to the border of the LC.

Potential Ukrainian DRGs (several units from the 8 special regiment) are currently located in the area of ​​the settlement of Happiness and the village of Gorskoe. A large-scale offensive, Kiev, apparently plans to initiate a series of terrorist attacks in the LC. All these movements APU covers dense mortar fire on the positions of the people's militia. Peculiar shock mites are actually ready. Along the demarcation line, Kiev concentrated a serious grouping of troops in the 90 of thousands of servicemen.

Completes the "strategic pattern" serious grouping under Mariupol, ready at any time to support the offensive. Just a couple of days ago, the Armed Forces of Ukraine sent several thousand fighters and a convoy of armored vehicles in this direction. The transfer of such an impressive force was not without scandals, which, in fact, indicated the scale of the operation.



Residents of Kherson and the region, as you know, blocked the APU convoy in Chaplinka, trying to prevent the sending of their relatives to a meat grinder. Public activist Gennady Spivak, reporting the incident, counted in a convoy tanks and armored personnel carriers more than a hundred pieces of equipment. Literally a day later this "colossus" was already seen near Mariupol.

Kiev surrounds the Donbass from all sides and clamps into a serious vice. The next attack near Avdiivka may be accompanied by an attack on the entire front line. The militia must be ready to repel the onslaught of the entire combat-ready part of the APU. In his last spurt, Poroshenko will obviously throw all the meat available.
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  1. +10
    16 February 2017 06: 27
    I think it is no longer possible to rely on the Minsk agreements, we need number one preparedness on the entire front.
    1. 0
      16 February 2017 08: 48
      own work amuses the soul, not favorite - into scrap.
      What we need for joy is to do with the coasters.
      With caution, but without fear, to the West.
      1. +1
        16 February 2017 09: 52
        Petya wants to win at any cost, now there will be elections for his friends in France and Germany, who knows who will win, America is an example.
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    2. +3
      16 February 2017 12: 14
      If they don’t start within a month, then spring thaw will begin. And there before summer.
  2. +4
    16 February 2017 08: 20
    A specific slaughter is brewing. We would not have blundered in the Donbass.
  3. +5
    16 February 2017 09: 10
    Hate ballad - lyrics

    Hurry - a skinny vulture circling over the country!
    The forest - your abode - in the spring to bring!
    Do you hear the earth shaking beneath your feet?
    You see - the dense fog lies over the fields? -
    This dew boils with hatred!

    Hate - languishing in the swollen kidneys,
    Hate - it’s secretly seething in us,
    Hate - then oozes through the skin,
    Our heads are firing!

    Look - what red spots in the river -
    Evil decided to restore order in the country.
    The handles of swords get cold in my hand
    And despair beats like a bird in a temple
    And the heart comes from hatred!

    Hatred - young spoils faces,
    Hate - asks from the shores,
    Hate - thirsty and wants to get drunk
    Black blood of enemies!

    Yes, hatred captured us now
    But anger will not lead us from captivity.
    Not blind, not black hatred in us, -
    Fresh wind will dry our eyes
    Fair and genuine hatred!

    Hate - drink, the cup is full!
    Hatred - requires an exit, waiting.
    But our noble hatred
    Lives next to love!
  4. +2
    16 February 2017 09: 28
    Ticks made of shit and sticks laughing
    Seriously, zadolbali "all propalschiki." Poproshenko is only capable of the next operetta. For something more: a) no ammunition; b) Russia is near.
    1. +6
      16 February 2017 10: 40
      Quote: Flinky
      a) no ammunition

      In order to once again destroy the infrastructure and ruin production, they have enough reserves. Even one “Points” will not be enough. And the front line is stupidly squeezed in numbers, tossing with corpses. A herd with violent mobilization (which is already under 100k goals) is pumped up with drugs and they will be driven to storm them. And then contract soldiers and mercenaries from PMCs will already go and engage in stripping.
      Quote: Flinky
      b) Russia is nearby.

      And “Russia” will once again say “do not succumb to provocations” and abide by “Minsk”, which, as you know, “has no alternative”, and will express another concern at the UN Security Council. And, perhaps, even five days later, an order for military assistance will be issued, which will arrive just in time for the time when the Armed Forces of Ukraine, having cleared the territory of the population, will reach the borders with Russia.
      1. 0
        16 February 2017 12: 03
        It would have been so simple, would have already jerked, Europe is holding Petya, because to rake everyone. Donbass has one life motivation, and they will fight for it to the end, well, Russians don’t abandon Russians, don’t hope.
      2. +3
        18 February 2017 10: 32
        Already said. Peskov to the words of Zakharchenko about the military liberation of the entire territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, said that this would be a direct violation of Minsk-2.Te. it turns out that Moscow allows dill to violate, and the DNR-LNR DO NOT DO THIS!
      3. +2
        18 February 2017 12: 56
        And “Russia” will once again say “do not succumb to provocations” and abide by “Minsk”, which, as you know, “has no alternative”, and will express another concern at the UN Security Council.
        and here the dog rummaged! something very much I doubt that in these times, Mr. Prime Minister is capable of cheating on anything except cheeks! Dimon has a very bad reputation, and the government as a whole is also not worth a word, especially the economic bloc ...
    2. +5
      16 February 2017 12: 30
      Oh, just do not. Ukrainians trained the army, trained. They are embittered, they already have something like an ideology.
      And if they go under the fool again, if Zakharchenko does not lie, then it can be very bad.
      The fact that they are prepared, says at least how much strength they pulled off.
      Perhaps they believe that the Russian Federation will not be bought, perhaps they are completely crazy.
      Well, what we decided all-in is obvious. And the outcome of this tragedy will depend only on the position of Russia. And everyone understands this, and Ukrainians in the West.
      The meat and blood ahead await us. Sad and scary.
  5. +3
    16 February 2017 10: 04
    “We need all of Ukraine” (c), possibly, with the exception of Donbass.
  6. +3
    16 February 2017 11: 05
    Not to ticks ..
    In Ukraine, a decisive struggle for power is planned, maybe Poroshenko is waging martial law, but to maintain the regime.
    But if Petya stands up and monopolizes power (like GDP), then Donbass has no chance ...
  7. +3
    16 February 2017 11: 31
    If the Donbass militias were also preparing an offensive, like the Armed Forces, now there would be an unceasing howl from the Westerners to Russia. Whether the AFU case is preparing for the slaughter of its own population. Here they are silent every day and there are no Western laments about the upcoming murder of civilians. Where are you western "human rights defenders"?
    1. 0
      16 February 2017 13: 30
      Quote: Aristide
      Where are you western "human rights defenders"?

      they don’t get paid for it ...
  8. 0
    16 February 2017 12: 19
    Yes, this is no longer funny .. What kind of ticks does it mean? Okay, people have a short memory, but here it’s pure cretinism. Than all previous ticks ended.
  9. +8
    16 February 2017 13: 26
    You read the brave “couch fighters” - you will envy: how famously they troll ukrofashists! But I prefer the act of a real man, Z. Prilepin, who, unlike you, unable to raise your asses, really went to wars ukak E. Hemingway and co .I am an old miner / 68 /, I can’t fight, but I gave two sons to the defense of NEW RUSSIA. "Is it weak for you?"
    1. +5
      16 February 2017 13: 48
      Please tell me, what is the percentage of capable male population of Donbass now in the army? And what is the percentage of those who greased the heels with fat and rushed to Europe and Russia? Before asking citizens of Russia whether they are weak, sort it out first with your fellow citizens.
      1. +4
        16 February 2017 19: 04
        The concepts of a schoolboy-dvoechnik, but not the "Moor".
        Any army is limited not by quantity, but by the possibility of its maintenance.
        And, "lubricate the heels with fat" and evade not according to ideological or moral standards (Donbass), but directly violating the Law on the obligation to fulfill military duty, they know how to do it everywhere. And Russia, in this regard, is no exception - not so long ago, military registration and enlistment offices and the police organized "raids" and "hunts" for draft deviators.
        1. +1
          16 February 2017 21: 32
          Quote: VadimSt
          Any army is limited not by quantity, but by the possibility of its maintenance.

          So, it’s not a matter of the number of volunteers, but the lack of opportunities to equip them? And then what is the rotten claim on the topic "unable to lift their asses"? !!! Decide what you are unhappy with.
          As for the raids on draft evaders in Russia: firstly, these are the problems of Russia and he solves them herself, and secondly, in my deep conviction, it is better to take five real men into the army than three dozen individuals hiding in the corners with primary male sexual characteristics.
      2. +5
        16 February 2017 19: 12
        Quote: Moor
        Please tell me, what is the percentage of capable male population of Donbass now in the army?

        These comments are cool to me! Come on, declare the entire male population of Donbass not in the service, cowards and traitors for the full set.
        Even if you do not take into account that the LDNR authorities fundamentally abandoned the general military duty under the Swiss or Israeli option in favor of the contract army, even if you do not take into account that the criteria for recruitment into the army were so bad that not everyone can get there now (because, stupidly not enough money to pay them a salary), even if you do not take into account that the authorities, out of habit, fearing their own people, adopted the castrated weapons law, if all this is not taken into account, the question remains - who will repair the electricity network, mine coal, carry people by public transport, repair roads and railways, rebuild destroyed housing, factories, enterprises? WHO? For some reason, such a question does not occur to the homegrown demagogues of a jingoistic patriotic orientation, and there is clearly not enough brains to understand that war is not only military service, but also mobilized industry and economy.
        1. +2
          16 February 2017 19: 35
          Quote: Egor-dis
          Even if you do not take into account that the LDNR authorities fundamentally abandoned the general military duty under the Swiss or Israeli option in favor of the contract army ...

          - I’m trying to guess why the authorities did this: there were a lot of people who wanted to have a free gun with a pair of horns (better, of course, more), and evaporate with all this good “with the invisible straight,” no?

          Quote: Egor-dis
          Even if you do not take into account that the criteria for recruiting to the army are so bad that not everyone can get there now (because, stupidly not enough moneyto pay them a salary)

          - about how belay
          - that is, not at all because they cannot pass the selection, but because "the authorities have dumb pennies"
          - enchanting, alien ...

          Quote: Egor-dis
          who will repair the electricity network, mine coal, carry people by public transport, repair roads and railway tracks, rebuild destroyed housing, factories, enterprises?

          - I wonder, who in WWII knew all this?

          Quote: Egor-dis
          war is not only military service, but also mobilized industry and the economy

          - class ... well - mobilization economy what
          - Does LDNR have any serious economy? I heard right? Are they all so self-sufficient, due to the "mobilization economy"?
          - Yes, without the support of the Russian Federation (including the financial one), the republic would have long been ... of that ... ordered to live long request

          IMHO, yes.
          1. +4
            16 February 2017 20: 47
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - I’m trying to guess why the authorities did this: there were a lot of people who wanted to have a free gun with a pair of horns (better, of course, more), and evaporate with all this good “with the invisible straight,” no?

            I'll try to guess. In the Russian Federation, Israel, Switzerland and wherever there is a universal military duty, people mobilized with Kalash and two equipped shops run away in an unknown direction across the country. wink
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - I wonder, who in WWII knew all this?

            And really, who could it be? recourse
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - Does LDNR have any serious economy? I heard right? Are they all so self-sufficient, due to the "mobilization economy"?
            In Ukraine, and also in Greece and a big pack of EU countries, there is also some kind of economy, while I would not call it self-sufficient.
            In LDNR, given that the economy, together with the financial system, had to be done from scratch and in the conditions of hostilities, they did what they could. Who can - let it do better.
            And about the fact that
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - Yes, without the support of the Russian Federation (including the financial one), the republic would have long been ... of that ... ordered to live long
            I do not argue, and I am grateful for the support, however, there are a couple of nuances. Thanks to this support, Russia has a springboard to advance its national interests in the state of victorious Nazism, which is under external control, which is also not enough.
            The second nuance - before the war, Russia promoted the topic of cooperation within the framework of the Customs Union. Having acquired a loyal piece of territory, one could easily make a showcase of such cooperation. Moreover, Lugansk and Donetsk, even despite the destruction, (and the fact that part of the production went to Russia wink ) there is still something to produce, with it, the product would (and is) be in demand on the Russian market. Thus, financial injections would already begin to return, and LDNR, from a heavy burden (yes, they heard from some “Why feed the Donbass ...”, etc.) would turn into a profitable enterprise. And if, instead, Russia chose to put LDNR on humanitarian convoys, then this is certainly not a question for the LDNR authorities. request

            IMHO
            1. +1
              16 February 2017 20: 56
              Quote: Egor-dis
              In the Russian Federation, Israel, Switzerland and wherever there is a universal military duty ...

              - There are also working bodies a la the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB and others, and therefore

              Quote: Egor-dis
              mobilized with Kalash and two equipped shops to him ...

              - ... as a rule, do not run away.
              - there are no comparable state bodies in LDNR as a class (as far as I understand, I could be wrong, essno)
              - and therefore suggested that there is such a ... Tingent's horse wink

              Quote: Egor-dis
              And if, instead, Russia chose to put LDNR on humanitarian convoys, then this is certainly not a question for the LDNR authorities

              - and certainly not to me. There are apparently some reasons for that. request

              Okay. thanks for the clarifications hi
        2. +1
          16 February 2017 21: 16
          For some reason, such a question does not occur to the homegrown demagogues of a jingoistic patriotic orientation, and there is clearly not enough brains to understand that war is not only military service, but also mobilized industry and economy.
          Yes, but other "homegrown demagogues of a jingoistic patriotic orientation" have enough brains to make complaints to citizens of another state that they see whether they are still at home on the couch, and not in the trenches in Ukraine. For some reason, three million (!) Citizens of Ukraine prefer to earn money on the territory of the aggressor state, rather than restore order at home !!!
          1. +2
            17 February 2017 00: 01
            Quote: Moor
            other "homegrown demagogues of a jingoistic patriotic orientation" have enough brains to make claims to the citizens of another state that they see whether they are still at home on the couch, and not in the trenches in Ukraine.

            Perhaps because they well understand that this war is common, and the enemy is also common. And if you do not defeat him in Ukraine, you will have to fight him in Russia, where he will no longer be in the trenches, but will blow up residential buildings, airbuses and metro stations. But, despite the claims, no one is forcing you to go anywhere. Where and how to deal with enemies is up to you.
            Quote: Moor
            Why is it three million (!) citizens of Ukraine prefer to make money in the territory of the aggressor state, rather than restore order at home !!!
            So make a complaint targeted, specific to citizens of Ukrainewhen you meet them in the vastness of Russia.
            1. +1
              17 February 2017 06: 36
              To come up with excuses for one’s own inaction is mankind’s favorite pastime. As for the charges, we are not in court, and I am not a prosecutor. I just answered very clearly the question posed. And whether you like the answer or not, it makes no difference to me. The arguments you cited above are unconvincing. And here's another funny thing: that Kiev, that Donetsk - both of them claim to Russia. Some are unhappy that Russia is allegedly fighting with them, others - that Russia is not fighting for them. But by the way, all that trash that made bloody mess in the country grew up in Ukraine, under your nose, and not imported from Russia. And it did not happen yesterday. I remember a lot of rallies in Ukraine in support of Dudaev and the "small but proud Ichkeria", but I don’t remember ANY protest (even a single picket) against outright interference in the affairs of another country. No one, not a single normal Ukrainian, even meowed, asked, and what is actually the matter for us in Moscow Chechnya? Everyone was silent. They were silent when those who kill you today went to kill us. And today, many Russian men go to the Donbass as volunteers and die there, but for some you see a complaint: why aren’t you all here, have you stood up?
              1. +4
                17 February 2017 09: 23
                Quote: Moor
                Some are unhappy that Russia is allegedly fighting with them, others - that Russia is not fighting for them.
                Typical manipulative technique with smearing guilt.
                Quote: Moor
                But by the way, all that trash that made bloody mess in the country grew up in Ukraine, under your nose, and not imported from Russia

                Awesome argument! With the same success, I can blame you for raising Chechen fighters, ISIS sheep and all the swamp-white-tape liberalism, coupled with the oligarchs. AND!? Why did you grow Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Abramovich, Dudaev, Baraev, and why did you grow Yeltsin and Gorbachev? Or have you exported them from Ukraine?
                Quote: Moor
                No one, not a single normal Ukrainian, even meowed, asked, and what is actually the matter for us in Moscow Chechnya?
                Good question. Maybe rallies in support of Ichkeria were so "large-scale" that NORMAL UKRAINIANS they just did not notice?
                Quote: Moor
                They were silent when those who kill you today went to kill us
                Maybe because Bandera did not advertise this before 2014? For example, I learned about the same Bashka’s sash and his participation in the Chechen wars from the report of “Russia 24’ ”and YouTube videos. In turn, I’m interested, but where was Moscow at that moment? And what was her reaction? Why was there no worldwide publicity, sanctions against Kiev, demands to extradite criminals?
                Quote: Moor
                and to some you see a claim: why are you still not everything is heredid not get up breast?
                a person actually wrote about those who troll Nazis on the Internet, and the fact that you persistently project his words on the entire male population of Russia and Donbass suggests that you are either a provocateur (of those who suggest "why feed Chechnya / Crimea / Donbass / .. / ... "underline the necessary), or you have some kind of your own psychological complexes.
                1. +1
                  17 February 2017 14: 16
                  You have a lot of emotions, but with arguments it is rather weak. I will probably be brief. I will not present my personal opinion on the situation in Ukraine in detail now, I am referring you to my early comments on this topic. If you are so hurt, go to my profile, read. There is such a thing as a different point of view. As for the phrase "you, or a provocateur (of those who suggest" why feed Chechnya / Crimea / Donbass "then I leave it to your conscience. If you find at least one such statement on my part, then I will agree to sprinkle ashes on my head.
    2. 0
      16 February 2017 21: 02
      Quote: Sergey Kranov
      .I am an old miner / 68 /, I can’t fight, but I gave two sons to the defense of NEW RUSSIA.

      And how old are the sons?
      At that age are already grandchildren of military age, grandchildren are the same in the army?
      1. 0
        16 February 2017 21: 41
        You are in vain. I’m only two years younger than the “angry” author, but I’m at least ten years old before my grandchildren. smile
      2. 0
        17 February 2017 14: 48
        For Krassa: Here I was “lucky": two granddaughters, 14 and 17 years old.
  10. +1
    16 February 2017 15: 42
    Dill in the Donbass before the assault on the positions of the Militia:
  11. 0
    18 February 2017 07: 59
    What is the offensive?) For the next two weeks we will have temperatures above zero and rain. The mud will be over the ears, and it will be possible to move only along the roads.
  12. +1
    18 February 2017 17: 35
    GDP began to hammer in the cover of the ditch
    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree recognizing in the Russian Federation documents issued to Ukrainian citizens and stateless persons permanently residing in the territories of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. On Saturday, February 18, the press service of the Kremlin.
    1. +3
      19 February 2017 18: 07
      Even more important, the recognition of the Kiev regime as terrorist and the statement on the ability of the Russian Federation to take protective measures not only in the territory of the Russian Federation.
      1. +1
        19 February 2017 18: 32
        Quote: Balu
        recognition of the Kiev regime as terrorist

        hi
        so the Moscow court has already recognized muydan coup d'etat. with all the ensuing request
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    1. +2
      19 February 2017 18: 09
      Bad Bat, somehow fu. People we are adults, but it's ugly, take it away.
  14. 0
    19 February 2017 09: 18
    Can officially declare that a military solution is unacceptable? Up to military intervention!
  15. Maz
    +2
    21 February 2017 11: 07
    Well, there are not only Ukrainian ticks. There are also oligarchic ticks, bandit pliers, thieves' master keys, Ukrainian redneck, haters .... there is such a mess, but only now we issued them passports and began to recognize them. And before that they didn’t? Here ...
  16. 0
    21 February 2017 16: 09
    what kind of ticks ?!
    it is impossible to make ticks with the weak handles of the mast.

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