Seven of the eight military transports of the German Air Force are not ready for flight

Amid reports that not everything is OK with the combat effectiveness of the British underwater fleet, there are reports of military-technical problems in another NATO state. So, German magazine Der Spiegel Publishes material stating that seven of the eight Airbus A400M military transporters are not able to engage in NATO training and combat maneuvers. The material stated that only one of the eight aircraft is “on the wing”, the rest are either undergoing repairs, or their condition is assessed by experts from the commissions of the Bundeswehr.

The assessment of the technical condition of military transport aircraft in Germany is carried out after the incident at Kaunas airport. Then the plane of the German Air Force, on which the delegation of the German Defense Ministry, headed by Minister Ursula von der Lyayen, was supposed to return to Berlin, could not fly for a long time due to a detected malfunction. As a result, the minister and her retinue had to be transplanted to another transport worker in order to enable them to fly away from Lithuania.

The previous incident with the Airbus A400M German Air Force occurred in January of this year, when in the cockpit cracked glass during the flight. Another military transport worker of the German Air Force was forced to make an emergency landing in Sweden after the crew identified technical problems on board. According to one version, one of the engines crashed during the flight.

The German magazine states that "in the" Luftwaffe "(German Air Force) are disappointed with the state of military transport aircraft." It is noted that the majority of these aircraft were delivered recently by the manufacturer.

Earlier, other German sources reported that the German Air Force commanded Airbus about 40 million euros for compensation.

Comments

[Monos]

I wonder where they do not want to fly this time? Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan?

[oleg-gr]

Is everything so bad in the NATO countries of Europe? Or do they recall the drunkard’s tactics of pulling out money from the Americans in the 90s?

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Monos

I wonder where they do not want to fly this time? Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan?

Yes, here not far, in the Baltics. Well, still the Czech and Romanian brigades are being raked under their command.http://inopressa.ru/article/10feb2017/faz/army.ht
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[cniza]

Quote: Monos

I wonder where they do not want to fly this time? Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan?

They seem to want to blame us for this, that we destroyed their aircraft.

[alexng]

Well, what are you? Don’t go to your grandmother ... It’s all Russian crack-iras that have been hacked by all Samul civilizators. This excuse has always rolled and will ride now too. And what a completely modern shit.

[Pirogov]

Quote: oleg-gr

Is everything so bad in the NATO countries of Europe? Or do they recall the drunkard’s tactics of pulling out money from the Americans in the 90s?

At one time, all of NATO felt bad, the submarines became steel, the planes did not fly, etc. It is hard to believe that economic and tidy Germans had problems with equipment.

[210ox]

I worked and work with German technology. And I say that in recent years 15 the quality of mechanisms has fallen dramatically. Automation systems are at the same high level, but failures have become more frequent, though they are related to incorrect software operation .. Something like this ..

Quote: Pirogov

Quote: oleg-gr

Is everything so bad in the NATO countries of Europe? Or do they recall the drunkard’s tactics of pulling out money from the Americans in the 90s?

At one time, all of NATO felt bad, the submarines became steel, the planes did not fly, etc. It is hard to believe that economic and tidy Germans had problems with equipment.

[Monos]

Quote: 210ox

I worked and work with German technology. And I say that in recent years 15 the quality of mechanisms has fallen dramatically. Automation systems are at the same high level, but failures have become more frequent, though they are related to incorrect software operation .. Something like this ..

The "Bologna" education system and the mass transfer of production to Southeast Asia (and, as a consequence, the drop in the qualifications of Europeans) do not pass without a trace.

[marshes]

Quote: 210ox

I worked and work with German technology. And I say that in recent years 15 the quality of mechanisms has fallen dramatically. Automation systems are at the same high level, but failures have become more frequent, though they are related to incorrect software operation .. Something like this ..

What kind of equipment? I heard from my brother-in-law that metalworking is used in machinery that is produced in Turkey or Italy.
The Germans did not long ago, I forgot the company, most of the Chinese were sold, and she was engaged in the creation of robotic complexes.

[210ox]

Thermal power and equipment for processing agricultural products. Apparently, the requirements have changed even not to quality but to reliability, MTBF ..

Quote: marshes

Quote: 210ox

I worked and work with German technology. And I say that in recent years 15 the quality of mechanisms has fallen dramatically. Automation systems are at the same high level, but failures have become more frequent, though they are related to incorrect software operation .. Something like this ..

What kind of equipment? I heard from my brother-in-law that metalworking is used in machinery that is produced in Turkey or Italy.
The Germans did not long ago, I forgot the company, most of the Chinese were sold, and she was engaged in the creation of robotic complexes.

[Pete mitchell]

If we add to this the novelty of the design of the A400, then everything will fall into place. In Kaunas, oil was leaking from under the hood of the first engine. In principle, the competent actions of the crew: only the dead love heroes, no one needs them alive.

[My doctor]

The Tatar-Mongols had the practice of provoking the enemy into decisive action, thereby ambushing him. As they wrote that the probability of all submarines failing, and the more so posting in the media, is insignificant, I don’t think that the real state of this or that submarine is not a secret for the island state.

[marshes]

Quote: MyVrach

The Tatar-Mongols had the practice of provoking the enemy into decisive action, thereby ambushing him.

They are not Tatars, Mongols, they are "gay" fog they do not cause just state the facts that they all "disappeared".
I have a distant relative on the side of my wife in the Bundesphere, I served early in the SA. I just explained the land of idiots. I have two walks in Afghanistan.

[igorka357]

Che do not understand for whom the article?

[Orionvit]

While there was no enemy, the loaves relaxed and everything was fine. When they came up with an enemy in the person of Russia, they realized it, and it turned out that in fact, things were not very good.

[The black]

Quote: oleg-gr

Is everything so bad in the NATO countries of Europe? Or do they recall the drunkard’s tactics of pulling out money from the Americans in the 90s?

They are preparing public opinion for Euro-fuckers that they say it's time to fork out ... ...

[tol100v]

Quote: oleg-gr

Is everything so bad in the NATO countries of Europe?

Or decided to pretend to be very poor fire victims !? In Britain there are no boats, in the Bundes there are no transporters. So everything is bad, we are gone! And all the military bases of the SGA are not located in Germany, but in the neighboring Galaxy, hundreds of light-years away? And they, too, it was all over! That's just funny. Ordinary gypsy, such as: we are not local people, serve them ... and further on! (Gypsy, please do not be offended). Soon it will be possible to hear from any Member (NATO) that he has something wrong and something wrong!

[Titsen]

Quote: oleg-gr

Everything is so bad in the NATO countries of Europe

This, of course, pleases almost like back in 1940 ...

But how are we doing - will we be in time by June 1941 ....

[mamuka]

I support. Vryatli everything is broken right now. They just started to totally check everything - problems all at once and were opened. the question is - are they preparing for war?

[Sirocco]

At the expense of the British submarine, and the German fleet with their non-combat readiness, it’s easy to give but is hard to believe. Especially against the backdrop of the deployment of troops in the Baltic region, they say that you are afraid of us, boats don’t fly, planes don’t fly, tanks don’t fly, military personnel are generally disabled, why are they so afraid of them.

[ICT]

Quote: Monos

Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan?

there Antonov’s KB and the Volga - the Dnieper quite manage themselves

[Reserve officer]

Another attempt by journalists to act as experts in military matters? What they have there, what we have - one chatter. Just to attract attention, beloved ones. Do the gentlemen of journalists call this a sensation, if I am not mistaken?
Something I do not believe such analysts.

[bouncyhunter]

Victor, my respect!

German Air Force Command demanded compensation from Airbus about 40 million euros.

And the command did not think where and for how long they would be sent to Airbus using local idiomatic expressions?

[Monos]

Paul,
Here it is very, very out of place. As long as there is a cherished bottle, the Germans do not care about the problems of the sheriff.

[bouncyhunter]

Vitya, it's time and just Pasha. And when did the sheriff worry about the Teutons? Only when the mattresses were afraid that everything after WWII would go to the USSR. Remember how the mattress generals spat that they were not the first to enter Berlin! Warriors, their division !!!

[igorka357]

They won’t send it, it’s not with us ... they put the bullshit and washed off! If anything, they seriously understand and pay compensation there! Airbus is a serious company, one of the leaders on the planet, and values ​​its reputation!

[Alex_Rarog]

And where are you going to fly ... from the Germans out of 8, only one can take off from the French Volga-Dnepr 80% of the transportation is carried out ... I think the rest is even worse ... in England, the railway troops were abducted ... to whom to deliver ...

[Damir]

Dear Monos !!! the question is even simpler !!! according to the old joke "and these people forbid us to pick our nose"?! ??!?! that's all ... no one is flying anywhere ....

[st25310]

Hurricane 1M lit up.

[Liberoid-]

Quote: Monos

I wonder where they do not want to fly this time? Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan?

To Ukraine ... I remember they were there already ..

[DMB_95]

All incidents (in the article) that occurred with the German Air Force aircraft have an unambiguous interpretation in the manuscripts of the ancient Aryans and German soothsayers. Literal translation: "Nehren do in the East!"

[NEXUS]

Let the trucks be ordered from Antonov Design Bureau ... Ukrainians will quickly and efficiently fulfill the order.

[barclay]

For the coveted "visa-free" fast and free.
But, I think, the Germans and "themselves with a mustache."

[Reviews]

Quote: NEXUS

Let the trucks be ordered from Antonov Design Bureau ... Ukrainians will quickly and efficiently fulfill the order.

Well, in principle, the An-70, thanks to Russia, is already quite ready for the series. There would be money.

[cap]

Quote: NEXUS

Let the trucks be ordered from Antonov Design Bureau ... Ukrainians will quickly and efficiently fulfill the order.

You can pick up the finished one from the branch

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: NEXUS

Let the trucks be ordered from Antonov Design Bureau ... Ukrainians will quickly and efficiently fulfill the order.

As it turned out, the An-70 is good for everyone, but when promoting the A-400, Europeans primarily care about the development of their own aircraft industry.
KG, albeit worse, but his own (and in some ways they are right here ...)

To select the best solutions for acquiring new aircraft for their Air Force, specialists from the Western European Union conducted an analysis of the development status of promising military-technical vehicles in the USA, Russia and Ukraine in order to determine the feasibility and expediency of their purchase.
In a generalized report, it was noted that the promising military aircraft S-17A (USA), An-70 (Ukraine, Russia) and its export version, An-7x, significantly outperformed the A-400M aircraft in a number of tactical and technical indicators, in particular according to the criterion “Payload / flight range”, and fully meet European standards, it was also noted that the development of the An-70 military-technical cooperation is ahead of the A-400M project by at least ten years. At the same time, their purchase for the Air Force of Western European countries was recognized as undesirable and the need for further work on this program was justified. The main arguments in favor of this are the relatively high cost of American aircraft, as well as the need to maintain and further develop the potential of the European aerospace industry and enter the international market with aircraft of its own design. Http://militaryarticle.ru/zarubezhnoe-
voennoe-obozrenie / 2000-zvo / 6608-zapadnoevropejski
j-military-transportnyj-aircraft-a

[NEXUS]

Quote: Thunderbolt

As it turned out, the An-70 is good for everyone

I’m afraid, or rather I suspect, the AN-70 will face the same fate as Mriyu, that is, proudly wail in the sky in a single instance.

[Thunderbolt]

Yes, they are all sad with the production.
They should probably be very happy that they made such a "fuss" for Russia (after all, they could feed their Air Force together and put a very competitive car on the market).
But if Russia focuses on the problem, it will find an alternative, but Ukraine will have to forget about Ukraine for a very long time.
They have some kind of self-destructive strategy, but after all, this is integration into Europe --- if they are not completely bent, they will become the Airbus assembly shop. Everything according to Marx

[igorka357]

Yes, yes, all of us here have already buried Ukraine a hundred times, and they bastards attack the Donbass successfully, and they shoot the heroes of Donbass ... and also successfully, but we all sit on the asshole! It’s like with the production, we think it is bent, and they are hrenushki !!!

[adma]

There is no doubt that in a very short time NATO will stop the slack and bring everything in proper condition. Even without Trump. And all these identified shortcomings just indicate the emergence of the European component of the block from relaxed hibernation. Enough of their will, and technology, and means.

[marshes]

Quote: adma

There is no doubt that in a very short time NATO will stop the slack and bring everything in proper condition.

It doesn’t work out that the rablabon of them disappears, you need to seriously meet them.
And this is not terrorist attacks or the like, but a full-scale war on their territory.
In general, I consider myself. The aboriginal European nations are degenerate. Their time has passed.

[adma]

Quote: marshes

. Their time has passed.

Again, you have to put in 20 million to understand once again that the last thing is to underestimate the enemy?

Quote: marshes

I myself think. Aboriginal European nations are degenerate

In the Foreign Legion, only a fifth of the personnel are French. The Legion did not fight from this worse.

[marshes]

Quote: adma

Again, you have to put in 20 million to understand once again that the last thing is to underestimate the enemy?

They’ll even put it, it won’t reach them anyway. Often I go to Germany because of my spouse, at the moment there are some expenses.

Quote: adma

In the Foreign Legion, only a fifth of the personnel are French. The Legion did not fight from this worse.

So interested after the dismissal. In the legion of the French, only in command positions.
The European army is, besides shaving with SAS and Poles. And a few Croats with Serbs.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: adma

In the Foreign Legion, only a fifth of the personnel are French. The Legion did not fight from this worse.

Seven and a half thousand people is underdivision. So that they won’t do much weather in the big war. And with whom did the legion fight over the past 70 years (except 1991 in Iraq)? Their entire history over the past 70 years is the history of punishers. They are punishers. . They suppressed various unrest there.
So, it’s not worth the legion of frogmen to cover all of Europe.

[adma]

In the Great War, all who are picked up will be at war, armed with what remains. Professional troops and modern technology will end in a month of a full-scale war. Both in Europe and here. More bespectacled sysadmins run in dummies and overcoats from SCS to the edge.
With regards to the Foreign Legion.
Over the past 70 years, the legion fought in Algeria, Zaire, Lebanon, in the Persian Gulf, in Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Mali, I do not say anything about Iraq. But they are punishers or not punishers is a pretty controversial issue. This is from whose side to look. We also forced in Georgia. Both in Chechnya and in Syria. Or do you, dear - if ours, then a scout, and if a stranger, then a spy?

Quote: Barkhan

So, it’s not worth the legion of frogmen to cover all of Europe.

Dear, I said somewhere. that the Foreign Legion covers all of Europe? The question was about the national composition, but not about the size and protection of Europe, if you did not understand.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: adma

In the Great War, all who are picked up will be at war, armed with what remains. Professional troops and modern technology will end in a month of a full-scale war.

Yes, most likely it will be so. The Great Patriotic War was extended by reservists.

Quote: adma

More bespectacled sysadmins run in dummies and overcoats from SCS to the edge.

At my place already stands such (OP-SCS) in the safe. Everyone will have to run around.

Quote: adma

Or do you, dear - if ours, then a scout, and if a stranger, then a spy?

For me, yes. And for you?

[adma]

Quote: Barkhan

For me, yes. And for you?

I try to be objective. How much does it work for me.

[BARKHAN]

And what does it have to do with objectivity? Do you admit that the semantic color of the phrase "enemy intelligence, our spy" can express the depth of thought?

[adma]

Quote: Barkhan

Do you admit that the semantic color of the phrase "enemy intelligence, our spy" can express the depth of thought?

And where does the depth of thought? I admit only that these are words belonging to the same part of speech, different in sound and spelling, but having a similar lexical meaning.

[AID.S]

Quote: adma

The Legion did not fight from this worse.

Better too. And only against the natives.

[adma]

Quote: AID.S

.And only against the natives.

Was he supposed to fight against the French?

[viktor.]

I think in a modern war, 20 million can not get off

[adma]

Most likely it is ...

[Banishing liberoids]

In the entire NATO bloc, women are appointed to all positions, and there are examples, and ministers of defense, and ministers of industry, sports, tourism ... But ... they should all be former genecologists, narcologists, urologists, psychiatrists, so that NATO is quiet and quietly died.

[dedBoroded]

Yes, the Luftwaffe is not the same ... and thank God! The main thing in combat training is sexual diversity, judging by the latest Bundesian trends.

[Reviews]

Seven of the eight military transports of the German Air Force are not ready for flight

it is said that it is impossible to engage seven of the eight Airbus A400M military transporters during NATO training exercises.

I'm crap from this zoo. What was composed in the state of stubbing with moss - the title or text of the "article"? Or both?

[faiver]

Question number one - why does the Minister of Defense fly on a transporter?
Question number two - and we have that everything is fine with military transport aircraft? and just with military aviation?

[My doctor]

Quote: faiver

Question number two - and we have that everything is fine with military transport aircraft? and just with military aviation?

I live in the Republic of Belarus on Z. Dvina, so often I notice transport workers, sometimes one at a time, sometimes in pairs with an interval of half a minute, and once I saw how fighters worked on them to intercept them.

[Niccola Mack]

Question number one - why does the Minister of Defense fly on a transporter?

And there and there you have to fly to different.
Ursula rolled here with escort to Lithuania (to visit 130 Bundeswehr) on the brand new Airbus A400M, and had to fly back on the old S-160 Transall.
The first flight was at the plane - and the engine refused.
I hope she’s not going to visit us, otherwise she’ll probably be somewhere along the way and then they will rot us - “by the order of Putin, the only defense minister in the world is a gynecologist.”

[Thunderbolt]

These aircraft have a problem in the engines, --- after some time they disassemble them and inspect them. The plane is new and got there, it’s necessary! But for some reason the British exploit and do not complain.

[KOMA]

Britons do not know that their engines do not work!

[Thunderbolt]

The fact of the matter is that only the Germans complain. In my opinion, they squeezed a "penny" of maintenance and such savings came to them sideways. Now, in order to restore the planned combat capability, you still have to fork out.

[Woldemar]

As you call a ship, it will sail. European Union - Error (board number EC-404). They need to learn Russian.

[BABA SHURA]

What a healthy disinformation. No, I do not believe. At sub-Britons, ships do not sail; at fascists, planes do not fly. Etc

[Proton]

As Grigol Lopakhin grilled about the German pilots, "..have a fly, your mother, they flew to the tomb .."

[iouris]

Everything is fine with them, but it will become even better. Such signals are given for a sharp increase in military budgets.

[sgazeev]

Cancellations of orders [edit | edit wiki text]
In May 2003, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, the United Kingdom, Turkey, Belgium and Luxembourg signed a joint agreement to purchase 212 A400M aircraft from EADS. Italy later withdrew from the project, and the number of aircraft that needed to be done was reduced to 180 [9].
On July 18, 2005, the Chilean Air Force signed a memorandum of understanding for three aircraft to be delivered between 2018 and 2022. But the order was soon canceled. [10]
In December 2004, South Africa announced its intention to acquire eight A400Ms for a total of about 800 million euros, when the country joins Airbus Military as an industrial partner. Deliveries were expected from 2010 to 2012. Then, on April 3, 2009, the South African Air Force announced that they would begin consideration of alternatives to the A400M due to production delays and rising costs. On November 5, 2009, the government announced the cancellation of the order, citing increased costs and delays in delivery.
Accidents
collapsed shortly after takeoff from an airfield in Seville (Spain); thrust fell sharply at once in three of the four engines. In the fall, the plane hit the power line, as a result of the disaster killed four of the six crew members.
Globalization.

[marshes]

Quote: sgazeev

Order Cancellations [

Kazakhstan planned to buy 400 units of 6 pieces, refused. Because of the jambs in the production. Payment is not on credit.

[Wolka]

as devastation is seen not only in the minds of Caucasians, but also in the army, this is already dangerous, fools are always unpredictable

[marshes]

Quote: Volka

as devastation is seen not only in the minds of Caucasians, but also in the army, this is already dangerous, fools are always unpredictable

Europioids have always been famous for their predictability. They are not insidious Asioids.
The disappearance of Europodiles as a race was predicted by Darwin.

[Pate]

It is wonderful that the German Air Force A-400M aircraft are not capable of take-off for technical reasons, even if they are indignant that our aircraft fly and transfer equipment to exercises, and humanitarian aid to the SAR, where our airborne forces help the SAA fight terrorists.

[Koshak]

Ale, Hans, where to take you? We can send An-12 from Luostari.

[The leader of the Redskins]

The history of A400 in general is mixed. In the West, it was previously believed that it was impossible to create an airplane with such characteristics. But then a joint (then still) Russian-Ukrainian An-70 was born. The Westerners looked at it, felt it and ... suggested that the Antonovites produce for the NEW European transport carrier (how quickly they decided to build!) A chassis and something else worthless ... The Antonovites, of course, refused. And Europeans quickly “blinded” this “miracle” in cooperation. Moreover, it later became clear that in terms of carrying capacity he was already losing to the Ukrainian (already became such) An-70. So heavenly punishment! ...

[marshes]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The history of the A400 is generally mixed. In the West, it was previously believed that it was impossible to create an airplane with such characteristics.

They would start with the little things, although there is a beautiful aircraft that replaced the An-26 in the Kazakh army CASA C 295.
Could create an aircraft with a carrying capacity of 20-40 tons. instead of the C-130 Hercules, of course there are "big capes."

[drokos]

What kind of pseudo sensation ?! Does the German Air Force have 8 transporters or what?

[vasilev]

The Britons of the submarine, the Germans planes, it’s just begging for money.

[marshes]

For fans of TOP Gear, now Grant Tour.
In one show, Jeremy Clarkson spoke out to BMW about why they are presenting the car at exhibitions that they are not going to produce.
These are pure PONTS , however, were infected. They even learned to cut loot in the form of building a bridge for squirrels, for example.

[ICT]

Quote: marshes

now Grant Tour.

Even though not that

[marshes]

Quote: TIT

Even though not that

Clarkson knows how to use foul language.
Well, the American ramp industry illuminates.
I even again have a love for the Foltsvagen group appeared in the form of a Porsche 911, after five years it was possible to take such a one from us for 15-20 raccoons killed.

[mamuka]

Quote: faiver

Question number one - why does the Minister of Defense fly on a transporter?
Question number two - and we have that everything is fine with military transport aircraft? and just with military aviation?

- Pts sensible question. maybe why did he seize the secret unconventional comrades along the way?

[Zomanus]

And why do they need transport aircraft. when the enemy is already in their country?
I’ve thought that they launched animals to themselves in order to
so that we don’t run after the desert.
Or they need aviation to eat ... to fly out of the country as soon as possible.)))

[bald]

Summary: “You have to think with your own head, and, you, pecked at the NATO (USA) commonwealth - here are the little hands and dropped. Actually, it’s shameful for the two former powers: one had the best submarine fleet, the other was generally famous for its fleet in history. Think your head and do not fit under them, the Americans.

[aszzz888]

The material stated that only one aircraft out of eight "stands on the wing", the rest are either undergoing repairs, or their condition is assessed by experts from the Bundeswehr commissions.

Reached, the Germans!

[Moskovit]

There are problems in the Bundeswehr, more important than some planes.

German Minister of Defense Ursula von der Layen spoke on January 31, 2017 at a conference in Berlin on the place of sexual minorities in the armed forces of Germany. The conference was attended by more than 200 troops.

In her speech, von der Layen demanded "a more open approach to sexual diversity among troops."