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M249 nearly killed an American soldier

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In the Internet space posted a video of the shooting of the American military machine gun M249 SAW. It shows how a soldier is shooting from a standing position, holding weapon with one hand on the bipod. Suddenly, the fighter drops the machine gun, which begins to fire at his feet. The military, apparently, was not injured and escaped with only fright.



M249 SAW is a variant of the FN Minimi light machine gun for the US Army caliber 5,56 × 45 mm. Produced in Belgium. The serial production of weapons began in the 1980-ies. The cartridge is 5,56x45 (M855). The mass of the standard version - 6,875 kg. Weight assault option - 6,8 kg. The length of the standard version - 1040 mm. Initial bullet speed (М855) - 915 m / s. The rate of fire - 750-1000 shots per minute. Capacity of the power supply system, tape - 200 cartridges. Capacity of the power supply system, shop - 30 cartridges. Weight of cartridge case with ribbon - 3,1 kg.

M249 nearly killed an American soldier
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 7 February 2017 05: 47
    +4
    Looks in the nose combed.
    1. Finches
      Finches 7 February 2017 05: 50
      +18
      Hollywood Victim! The Expendables ... laughing Well that did not kill any!
      1. PAM
        PAM 7 February 2017 09: 38
        +4
        it seems that he overheated and the fire continued without pulling the trigger, and then the chain or with the soldier this is the first time and he tried to see what kind of crap was happening and took it off his shoulder. And then it was lucky that the shooting ceased (the second fighter (probably the instructor) clamped the tape) when the barrel was aimed at the machine gunner. In any case, I wanted to read the comments from those who have experience with this machine gun.
        1. Finches
          Finches 7 February 2017 10: 13
          +2
          I, of course, am not a machine gunner, but still ... I have one question - why the hell is he holding him for a bipod? There is a special handle.
          1. vkfriendly
            vkfriendly 7 February 2017 13: 43
            +1
            I think only Van Dam can shoot aiming and hold by the bipod. Weight is not small.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 7 February 2017 12: 07
          +20
          We called it "rabid MAG wassat (MAG belgia). "
          When you take your hand off the trigger ... and he continues to shoot.
          The tape (segmented) can be torn (twisted 90 degrees to the side).
          Or wait until it's over. Unpleasant ...
          1. tax payerschik
            tax payerschik 7 February 2017 18: 17
            +1
            It's cool. You can leave shooting, and change your position yourself.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 7 February 2017 18: 29
              +8
              Not cool at all, but very scary when you support from behind
              attack of their own. Usually to machine gunners of a fire support group
              leave sectors for shooting - and for a short time - and the situation is changing rapidly.
              Cease fire instantly when your sector enters, just as important
              how to start on time. And then put in the back of friends ... stop
              According to the instructions in the situation of the "mad magician" it is necessary to direct the machine gun "into the ground" near
              from myself, but not at point blank range (otherwise you will get ricochets from stones in your face).
              And there are nerves ... In general, writing about it is easier than doing recourse .
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 7 February 2017 18: 38
                +2
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Usually to machine gunners of a fire support group
                leave sectors for shooting ...

                - I drove the wedges "to the floor" so that the trunk could not be further rotated :)

                Quote: voyaka uh
                ... and for a short time - and the situation is changing rapidly ...

                - Yeah ... and even wedges do not always help ..

                Quote: voyaka uh
                And there are nerves ... In general, writing about it is easier than doing

                - nerves are evil.
                - and so - you are right, as always ... thanks, reminded hi
              2. andrewkor
                andrewkor 7 February 2017 19: 15
                +1
                I sympathize, but how is the situation with PK.PK?
          2. corporal
            corporal 8 February 2017 02: 57
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            We called it "rabid MAG

            What caused this?
            Doesn’t it rise to the sear? Or shooting from a closed shutter and overheating of the chamber?
        3. yushch
          yushch 7 February 2017 20: 52
          +1
          The instructor is simply handsome, worked like a pro and literally saved the shooter's eggs and legs. good
        4. Shuttle
          Shuttle 10 February 2017 12: 14
          0
          Quote: PAM
          it seems that it overheated and the fire continued without pressing the trigger, ..

          Yes that's right. Self-ignition of powder charge cartridge in the hot chamber.
          It is clearly visible that at first there is a break in shooting, and only then an unauthorized shot.

          This is one of the reasons why there is still no widespread use of caseless rifle types of automatic weapons. With G-11, this also happened.
          However, I have never heard of such problems in any of the variants of the AK, nor in the NSV (T). About CPT I do not know, no experience. But about FCT it is known that approximately through 250 continuous (!) Shots, auto-ignition of the cartridge in the chamber can occur in the interval from 7 to 20 seconds. Those. no less than 7, but no more than 20 seconds The temperature of the chamber / environment / cartridge depends.
          Please note that PCT has a cartridge 7,62 x 54 mm, not 39 mm.

          And further. In the video, the box holder on 200 cartridges is suspended from the arrow. In a similar situation, a Kalashnikov machine gun with a more powerful patron would not become such a "traitor", because it needs for this focus 250 continuous shots, not 200.
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 7 February 2017 07: 22
      +5
      Give the fool a glass x ..
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 7 February 2017 08: 39
      +1
      It seemed to me that not a bipod fell off, but a pen?
      1. Svetoch
        Svetoch 7 February 2017 12: 32
        +4
        It didn’t seem to you that I revised, indeed the pen remains in my hands. So to some extent it's not his fault. Unless of course he did not make out, he collected before shooting himself.
    4. papas-57
      papas-57 7 February 2017 09: 32
      +1
      Tired poor thing. Physical education is necessary, but not hamburgers.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 February 2017 05: 51
    +2
    It happens. Stuck in the brain.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 7 February 2017 05: 55
    +5
    The last cartridge for yourself smile ... now no one will be taken captive by American soldiers ... personal weapons will fix the problem ...
    maybe it seemed ... I caught my finger on the trigger.
    1. ivselim
      ivselim 7 February 2017 07: 12
      +14
      in my hilt fell off what . With 0,32min, something was "left" in his hand. wassat
      1. Terminolol
        Terminolol 7 February 2017 07: 54
        +7
        Yes! It fell off exactly ... the Chinese again slipped the wrong plastic, or, as always, Putin is to blame! laughing
        1. Machete
          Machete 7 February 2017 12: 12
          0
          It looks like a grip
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 7 February 2017 08: 13
        +1
        Quote: ivselim
        With 0,32min, something was "left" in his hand.

        It seems so.
      3. bistrov.
        bistrov. 7 February 2017 08: 19
        0
        Quote: ivselim
        in my hilt fell off

        No, it’s clearly seen that for some reason he threw the bipod rack he was holding onto.
        1. ivselim
          ivselim 7 February 2017 08: 52
          +4
          And in his right hand, then what? what In the photo below, the handle and the trigger are fixed on the bar ... here all this crap fell off (the mounting bolts were cut off). As I understand it.
    2. inkass_98
      inkass_98 7 February 2017 07: 17
      +9
      Yes, it didn’t seem. He dropped Bipod, and his finger remained on the hook, so I got a surprise. The machine gun has nothing to do with it, you have to watch a movie less, and keep the weapon as it should, Rambo homegrown.
      1. nekish
        nekish 7 February 2017 13: 54
        0
        USM unit with a handle fell off
  4. Dr. Hub
    Dr. Hub 7 February 2017 06: 01
    +4
    I love them laughing on dolgol fool glass ..y laughing
  5. dokusib
    dokusib 7 February 2017 06: 02
    +6
    Dude is lucky that the tape is over. And the machine gun, it seems, went overboard due to overheating and the descent blocked. A serial sample should not have such jambs. Maybe they themselves tried to improve something? Kulibiny laughing
    1. jovanni
      jovanni 7 February 2017 06: 20
      +8
      Quote: dokusib
      Dude is lucky that the tape is over. And the machine gun, it seems, went overboard due to overheating and the descent blocked. A serial sample should not have such jambs. Maybe they themselves tried to improve something? Kulibiny laughing


      No, the machine gun is good. Machine gunner m ... eccentric. The weapon is not a woman, it must be held tight. And right ...
  6. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 7 February 2017 06: 16
    +5
    I thought such machine guns are only for shooting while lying down, even a tripod is attached there.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 7 February 2017 06: 29
      +6
      This soldier decided differently ... in the videos from SYRIA and IRAQ, such heroes are the first to receive a bullet from a sniper in the forehead.
    2. Hadis1911
      Hadis1911 7 February 2017 06: 40
      +4
      Yes, there are enough idiots in the world hi
    3. Gray brother
      Gray brother 7 February 2017 08: 18
      +1
      Quote: Rabinovich
      I thought such machine guns are only for shooting while lying down, even a tripod is attached there.

      Why is it suddenly? This is a small-caliber handbrake.
    4. pv1005
      pv1005 7 February 2017 10: 09
      +7
      Quote: Rabinovich
      I thought such machine guns are only for shooting while lying down, even a tripod is attached there.

      TRIPOD means THREE legs. If you look closely at the video, we see TWO, hence the conclusion is BOWLES. Teach the materiel before making conclusions. hi
  7. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 7 February 2017 06: 35
    0
    And why didn’t he shoot from a prone position, there is a tripod in the same place? And he kept the machine gun poorly!
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 7 February 2017 07: 16
      +10
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      ? And kept the machine gun bad!

      We already wrote above, because gladiolus! The bipod is a moving structural element, the machine gun relative to the bipod can move horizontally and vertically. And to hold the firing machine gun by the bipod is very problematic
      1. WUA 518
        WUA 518 7 February 2017 07: 47
        +10
        I watched the video more closely. Apparently, the pistol grip flew off by the machine gun.
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 7 February 2017 08: 02
          +4
          The pistol grip with a trigger guard, trigger and trigger mechanism is generally a separate unit.
        2. Gray brother
          Gray brother 7 February 2017 08: 20
          +1
          Quote: WUA 518
          I watched the video more closely. Apparently, the pistol grip flew off by the machine gun.

          But the bogeyman looks cool.
          1. WUA 518
            WUA 518 7 February 2017 08: 33
            +6
            Quote: Gray Brother
            But the bogeyman looks cool.

            In the other world, anyway, whose gun looked cooler.
          2. Kasym
            Kasym 7 February 2017 10: 46
            +2
            In Afghanistan, a large number of failures of this machine gun were recorded. hi
        3. ura-banzai
          ura-banzai 8 February 2017 18: 36
          0
          everything is correct.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 7 February 2017 09: 35
        0
        It’s time for our designers to take care of the quick reload system of the machine gun - for one action, connecting the box and jerking the shutter.
      3. Prince of Pensions
        Prince of Pensions 7 February 2017 18: 05
        0
        Are there different machine guns on your and that video?
  8. Altona
    Altona 7 February 2017 08: 20
    +5

    Looks like the laurels of Stallone in the movie "Rambo" do not give rest.
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 7 February 2017 09: 31
      +5
      But it reminded me here:

      1. Galleon
        Galleon 7 February 2017 15: 10
        +7
        This chimpanzee holds weapons tighter and more confident than that "American professional" wassat wassat
  9. gukoyan
    gukoyan 7 February 2017 08: 39
    +1
    Managed a fright?)))
  10. gukoyan
    gukoyan 7 February 2017 08: 40
    0
    Managed a fright?)))
  11. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 7 February 2017 08: 52
    +6
    This is a common occurrence for automatic weapons - overheating of the chamber, due to intense shooting. After the shooting ceases, the cartridge in the chamber spontaneously ignites and a cycle of automatic firing occurs - until the ammunition runs out.
    An inexperienced soldier overheated the barrel with a chamber, trying to change weapons (it is clear that he releases a machine gun - holds it with one hand, he takes out a gun with his other hand - a standard shooting exercise), but here the cartridge self-ignites and the machine gun fires spontaneously, it is impossible to hold it in one hand .
    An inexperienced fighter is to blame for the situation - an overheated weapon and an instructor who is standing nearby and does not control the overheating of the machine gun and does not insure the asshole with a machine gun!

    In general, any automatic weapon with a closed bolt is subject to overheating of the chamber and self-ignition of the cartridge in the chamber, you will miss a moment and shoot until the magazine / tape / chamber is cooled down.
    1. Sarmat149
      Sarmat149 7 February 2017 21: 22
      +5
      For my service in the army when firing from small arms, I have never had such a "common occurrence for automatic weapons - overheating of the chamber, due to intensive firing." In PKM, the barrel warms up during intense shooting, as a result of the delay in firing - a transverse rupture of the sleeve, and the machine gun does not fire. For the PKK, as for AK, this phenomenon is simply not relevant. Have you talked about what kind of weapon?

      There were delays in firing, many times, but all of them (delays) corresponded to the firing instructions. What you described never saw.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 7 February 2017 21: 35
        +2
        Quote: Sarmat149
        as a result, the delay in firing is a transverse rupture of the sleeve, and the machine gun does not fire

        - Sorry, not the topic for sure. But reminded laughing
        - a gun ... Margolin ...
        - delay - "automatic shooting"
        - achieved by bending (slightly) clips ...
        - I was engaged in a bullet, with TOZ and MC-12, and the pistols were training nearby ... schoolchildren, what to take? And how not to joke about them lightly? laughing
        1. Sarmat149
          Sarmat149 9 February 2017 21: 33
          0
          Dear, you are right. I continue your series, so to speak. When firing a Makarov pistol (PM), a delay is also possible - automatic shooting. The reason is a dirty trigger mechanism, a greasy layer of soot after firing, I don’t know how many PMs were not cleaned in this case; either whispered by time or a file. Something like this )))
    2. Niccola Mack
      Niccola Mack 11 February 2017 09: 37
      +1
      After the shooting stops, the cartridge in the chamber spontaneously ignites and a cycle of automatic firing takes place - until the ammunition runs out.

      This is possible only in systems with a closed shutter - AK, M16, PM, SVD.
      In systems with an open shutter, this is basically impossible - PCA, PC, FN MAG - M249.
      For spontaneous shooting, the trigger or sear must be jammed here (do not cling to the bolt frame (shutter) in the rear position).
    3. The comment was deleted.
  12. Stas57
    Stas57 7 February 2017 08: 55
    +1
    Well, in general, experts rendered their verdict,
    keep track of weapons and perform TB
  13. creak
    creak 7 February 2017 09: 11
    +1
    This video was just posted on the Internet just because the name of the machine gun SAW SAW played in the title- I almost sawed in half ...
    The news, of course, is sensational, worthy of the most serious discussion ... what
  14. Vitalson
    Vitalson 7 February 2017 09: 20
    0
    I didn’t get off, but I DID a slight fright.
  15. Bronevick
    Bronevick 7 February 2017 09: 38
    0
    Correct name: the soldier nearly killed his partner and himself.
  16. Vitalson
    Vitalson 7 February 2017 09: 38
    +4
    We had a case in the army. Recruits were taken to the shooting range. But I must say that our shooting range was a normal natural ravine on the edge of a local village. At the edges of the ravine protection was displayed Schaub local grannies accidentally from lead poisoning did not die. This time they shot from AKM’s personal weapons and brought a couple more PCs. The brigade commander decided to write off more rounds of ammunition or a show off, h.z. Well, a few people shot back normally. They give a PC to one brow, instructed, he repeated it. He lays down (shot naturally from the “lying” position) and starts figuring at targets. The sergeants in the guard along the edges of the ravine prudently lay down because were 5 meters above the line of fire. And then something went wrong. The machine gun in the hands of this "Rambo" began to describe such pretzels that all the officers almost described themselves (sorry for the tautology) because he, like the movie "Wedding in the Robin", almost started to shoot at his own. The soldier would not have to cease fire, but he entered the rage and does not release the trigger, the machine gun jumps in both planes. A brave warrant officer was found - he ran upside down with his foot, and pressed the machine gun with his other foot. In general, no one was hurt, everyone still managed a frightened fright, but since then they haven’t fired machine guns in our unit anymore and this Rambo was transferred to the position of a company plumber, now only a plunger, a rag and a brush trusted him from the “weapon”.
    1. Sarmat149
      Sarmat149 9 February 2017 21: 36
      0
      So when shooting from PKM, be healthy. The one who shot about it did not know.)))
  17. Alexahndr
    Alexahndr 7 February 2017 09: 43
    +5
    Sosko let go, and held the pen with his right hand. with the trigger pulled. The machine gun fell while turning around the trigger guard. The trigger jumped off the finger. The weapon went to the idiot. Nothing to do with a machine gun. Technique in the hands of a savage, a piece of iron.
  18. Machete
    Machete 7 February 2017 12: 09
    0
    But was it not fate to wait until everything was shot?
  19. HMR333
    HMR333 7 February 2017 14: 06
    +1
    how could you let go of your second hand without stopping firing? normal people stop shooting lower the machine gun with both hands towards the ground and then let go! and he played cowboys, it’s not for him to hold onto one hand!
  20. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 7 February 2017 20: 32
    +1
    Even soulless machine guns understand who the real enemy is and who needs to be shot ...
  21. Andrew3000
    Andrew3000 8 February 2017 00: 25
    +2
    Rise of the Machines. Start.
  22. adma
    adma 8 February 2017 18: 22
    +3
    Nonsense, not news. You might think that in the RF Armed Forces there is no state of emergency at firing. You might think that a Russian soldier is wildly disciplined and does not allow himself to shoot at the first opportunity with a violation of all the rules and instructions. And the self-firing machine gun is finally a common thing. At the RPD itself, it pounded the whole can without stopping, completely not responding to my attempts to stop these disgraces ..
  23. ura-banzai
    ura-banzai 8 February 2017 18: 30
    +1
    During the last disassembly-assembly of the machine gun, it was not badly assembled, the pistol grip of the machine gun was unfastened at 0-26, it can be seen that he is holding the handle of the machine gun in his hands. The machine gunner really sweated completely and just below the waist.
  24. uskrabut
    uskrabut 10 February 2017 13: 45
    0
    d ..... b .......... No need to show off when dealing with weapons. This fighter had good teachers!