Ukrainian project BTMP-84

According to "Messenger of Mordovia", at the exhibition of weapons, held in the spring of 2001, in Abu Dhabi, a presentation of the project heavy infantry fighting vehicle BTMP-84exhibited in the form of a wooden exhibit.

Armored vehicles, according to Kharkov developers, was supposed to change the nature of warfare thanks to equipping military units with a machine that allows you to abandon individual use tanks and BMP.

The base of the BMP mass 48,6 t became modern at the time of the T-84 tank. It differed from it with an elongated body, additional supporting rollers (one on each side). Crew - 3 people. Five motorized infantry were to be located between the combat and engine compartment. 1200 hp engine was located so as to give the landing to the opportunity to leave the car behind. The power plant allows you to reach a maximum speed of 70 km. / H. Power reserve was 450 km.

The 125-mm smoothbore gun remained in service with the reduction of its ammunition to 28 shots in the loading mechanism. BMP had two machine guns caliber 12,7 mm and 7,62 mm. Armor protection - protivosnaryadnaya.

The persistent advertising of the new product did not help attract foreign customers. Due to lack of funds, the prototype was never created.

Comments

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Is this news for sure?

[Smoked]

Yeah, obituary, Ukrainian defense industry.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Smoked

obituary

This is no longer news. But, even these "not news" from 2001 of the year to place in the "News" section in 2017 is clearly not appropriate.

[Orionvit]

News as news. the main message is that after 2001 nothing has changed, as the wooden model was and remains.

[Observer2014]

Orionvit

News as news. the main message is that after 2001 nothing has changed, as the wooden model was and remains.

Apparently there is no longer a wooden layout

[Koshak]

Quote: Orionvit

... the main message is that after 2001 nothing has changed, as the wooden layout was and remains.

You are not right. That layout was from pine, and this one from birch.

[Zibelew]

Repeat article of 2013 "BTMP-84 (Ukraine) - the symbiosis of a tank and an armored personnel carrier" https://topwar.ru/163-btmp-84-ukraina-simbioz-tan
ka-i-bronetransportyora.html

[AID.S]

Quote: Zibelew

Repeat article of 2013 "BTMP-84 (Ukraine) - a symbiosis of a tank and an armored personnel carrier"

"What to say when there is nothing to say"?

[GUS]

Due to lack of funds, the prototype was never created.

In other words, everything is fine, only pennies are not good.

[Juborg]

Quote: Smoked

Yeah, obituary, Ukrainian defense industry.

Here, apparently, the obituary will be not only the crew, but also those who are in the trunk.

[vkl.47]

This is for the "project armata" ???

[siberalt]

Why discuss something that will not and will not be! Poroshenko will give the state. an order for their own plants, will fill up the moshna and dump it over the hill on the MF. He’ll get what happens there

[NEXUS]

Quote: siberalt

He’ll get what happens there

A tank of chocolate.

[svp67]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Is this news for sure?

Yes, they are with such projects for the modernization of ALL types of tanks have been dragging on for ten years ....
Here is their "option" based on the T-72

[Alex_Tug]

The news was a couple of days ago. Kharkov Tractor Plant closes, drank stamps for scrap. Maybe the carpentry workshop opens - they will make tanks of wood.

[KAPITANUS]

In general, they will establish the production of wooden samples. Joiner-gunsmiths!

[210ox]

If you haven’t settled for 16 years, then you will never be plastered ..

[san4es]

For the landing, between the compartments, this is a coffin on the tracks

[Gray brother]

Quote: san4es

For the landing, between the compartments, this is a coffin on the tracks

This is a caterpillar cache

[evil partisan]

Quote: Gray Brother

This is a caterpillar cache

An underground passage is not provided. Here is more suitable:

[dubowitskij.vick]

Quote: vkl.47

This is for the "project armata" ???

When you fall, protect your head. What does Armata have to do with it?

[Lester7777]

In which? In 2001? This is when they still had almost exactly how a real country was?

[Zaurbek]

Something like Merkava?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Zaurbek

Something like Merkava?

Something like Wishlist, like a Tirex tank. With the same success, the Ukrainian military-industrial complex can draw the Death Star. The result will be the same.

[bankirchik34]

what is this "news" for? and so everyone knows that in Ukraine, far from everything is in order in this industry, and in others

[Orionvit]

Quote: Lester7777

In which? In 2001? This is when they still had almost exactly how a real country was?

You wanted to ask, when was Ukraine a state? Sorry, but the country it is now, no more. That is, simply a certain territory where certain negative events occur. To call the state, this is a misunderstanding, as the language does not turn. As well as all the newfound eructations of the USSR, which it is not clear with what fright, they imagined themselves to be "states."

[evil partisan]

Good artists in Ukraine have not yet been extinct, I believe. But about competent engineers - a big question. Will the hahlys be able to produce this child prodigy or something even cooler even with a greater desire and the availability of funding? I would like to believe that no. with such Ukraine as now we have to deal with a few more decades ...

[COJIDAT]

Shed loops shed from the stern of the product.

[Tolstoevsky]

iron caput. armored truck. corpse truck

[Altona]

And sho? The manure was invented long ago, Tirex is important in color pictures, coloring .. Why publish old Wishlist?

[poquello]

Quote: Altona

And sho? The manure was invented long ago, Tirex is important in color pictures, coloring .. Why publish old Wishlist?

it’s very good that they didn’t realize it, with such a glove compartment dill in the zone of the atom would have stolen much more from the locals

[Altona]

Quote: vkl.47

Is this for the “armata project”?

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The T-64 tank can be mocked for a long time, changing its dimensions in a makeshift way, without any equipment.

[Shuttle]

Thank you! They want to shove five dill in this mangalchik with doors exactly behind the engine? I hope that they will still pre-salt them and soak them in vinegar. Otherwise, the kebab will not work.



Brazier-gun!

[Comrade Stalin]

Panas still fried dill 400 years ago:
The smell must have been delicious

[demiurg]

You are laughing in vain. The idea itself is correct. and much more correct than BMPT, where seven suicide bombers sit all the time. Instead of a bunch in a motorized infantry platoon of three infantry fighting vehicles and a tank, we have 3 tanks in fact. Moreover, after the landing, the trunk for the infantry can be full of anything at least until the blue.
But the implementation let us down.

[poquello]

Quote: demiurg

You are laughing in vain. The idea itself is correct. and much more correct than BMPT, where seven suicide bombers sit all the time. Instead of a bunch in a motorized infantry platoon of three infantry fighting vehicles and a tank, we have 3 tanks in fact. Moreover, after the landing, the trunk for the infantry can be full of anything at least until the blue.
But the implementation let us down.

Can the trunk be a separate trailer car? how do you like an armored car on wheels?

[demiurg]

Quote: poquello

Can the trunk be a separate trailer car? how do you like an armored car on wheels?

[Junior Private]

It seems that in Ukraine, the most profitable profession is becoming a carpenter. Touch pinocchio as you want.

[Wolka]

there is a degradation of Ukrainian engineering in the creation of armored vehicles ...

[naspret]

The title should have been: "The Ukrainian military will destroy plywood resins with their latest wooden tanks."

[andrewkor]

"wood" is a prototype!

[Fagelov]

Wooden breadboard? To an international exhibition? Only a complete loss of economic power and the absence of shame and reason could lead to such a step. Now it remains to sprinkle the head with finely chopped dill, drink the vodka and shoot yourself!

[andrewkor]

Friends, pay attention to the date of 2001. !! But in the serious magazine "Military Parade" for January-February 2003, in the article of the general designer of the "Design Bureau named after A. Morozov" M. Borisyuk and the general director of the GP "Plant named after Malyshev “G. Gritsenko., Who is promoting Ukrainian new and modernized equipment, there are two photos of this BMPT in iron with a crew, there are really seven skating rinks, and not as in the article’s splash screen, you can see the landing hatches behind the tower, you can exit them only when the tower is in the straight position either side, even by a few degrees, is already creating problems, not to mention the opposite position, the protection of the tower’s forehead closes all the hatches tightly. The idea is not bad, so the T-55 and T-62, etc.

[poquello]

Quote: andrewkor

the protection of the forehead of the tower closes all hatches tightly.

this car for transporting prisoners

[iouris]

The country must be collected, otherwise everything will rot.

[sergei1975]

And if you create such a BMP think for how many soldiers you can cram there!

[sontinianin]

Then BMU should be called the mass grave of urops ...

[Cruel beaver]

A bunch in the water .....

[nivander]

not a damn merkava