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British admiral: new destroyers will not be able to withstand Russian submarines

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The British Defense Ministry made serious miscalculations in creating destroyers of the 45 project, which made them defenseless against Russian submarines, the Sunday Times reported, citing British Rear Admiral Chris Perry.



"The investigation of the Sunday Times revealed deficiencies in the equipment supplied, and also found unsuccessful procurement transactions at a time when fears were growing that the armed forces would not be able to protect the UK in the event of a serious military attack," the article cites. RIA News.

According to Perry, "Submarines can detect new destroyers at a distance of 100 nautical miles (just over 185 kilometers), because ships make such a noise under the water, as if they were boxes with wrenches. ”

The admiral noted that the military department "invested money in the development of anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems, but did not take care of the protection from submarines." Meanwhile, Russia has submarines, which experts call the "black hole" because of their quietness (we are talking about "Varshavyanka"), he added.

According to the newspaper, each ship of the project 45 cost the British budget £ 1 billion.

Earlier it was reported that new destroyers are constantly breaking down, and that the possibility of sending them for modernization, which involves the replacement of one of the engines, is being considered. At the same time, in the hull of the ships "will have to cut through huge holes," recalls the publication.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 6 February 2017 09: 06
    +9
    British admiral: new destroyers will not be able to withstand Russian submarines
    In short, GIVE MUCH MONEY, for modernization, and then for the CONSTRUCTION of NEW ships ... otherwise it "all disappeared"
    1. A jacket
      A jacket 6 February 2017 09: 06
      +5
      Fleet of shame?
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 February 2017 09: 08
        +5
        Quote: Jacket
        Fleet of shame?

        Hate the fleet ... Her Majesty ...
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 6 February 2017 17: 48
          +1
          Very strange statement. These 45 destroyers have full electric propulsion. The whole point of which is noise reduction.
          This is EMNIP in Zamvolte. And that’s all. The latest fad. And suddenly - thunders.
          Strange, incomprehensible. Apparently, they cast a shadow on the fence, hiding the real problems.
          1. svp67
            svp67 6 February 2017 17: 58
            0
            Quote: Alex777
            Very strange statement. These 45 destroyers have full electric propulsion. The whole point of which is noise reduction.
            The latest fad. And suddenly - thunders.
            Then there is a suspicion that this is a knock of trembling crew teeth, from the thought of a possible meeting with our submarine
          2. Kyzmich
            Kyzmich 7 February 2017 16: 28
            +1
            Quote: Alex777
            These 45 destroyers have full electric propulsion. The whole point of which is noise reduction.

            And they get electricity from solar panels)))
        2. In100gram
          In100gram 6 February 2017 20: 10
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Hate the fleet ... Her Majesty ...

          The Majestic Shame of the Fleet
      2. cniza
        cniza 6 February 2017 09: 08
        +5
        Designed for escort only.
      3. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 6 February 2017 09: 08
        +5
        British admiral: new destroyers will not be able to withstand Russian submarines

        Yes, calm down already: the Swedish Navy does not see our submarines at all, and they don’t bother anything. laughing
        1. novel66
          novel66 6 February 2017 09: 29
          +7
          as they don’t see it, they’re looking all the time, that means they smell something
          1. Sly
            Sly 6 February 2017 10: 42
            0
            Quote: novel xnumx
            as they don’t see it, they’re looking all the time, that means they smell something

            - See the gopher? - Not. -And I do not see. But he is)
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit 6 February 2017 12: 46
          +2
          How does it not bother? Just talk about the elusive Russian submarines. Even funding for this business is being knocked out. True, they haven’t come up with anything better. laughing
        3. Topotun
          Topotun 6 February 2017 17: 52
          0
          Why do not they see? They constantly see and search ... But they leave quickly ....
      4. Zibelew
        Zibelew 6 February 2017 09: 26
        +1
        Send them the Nafalny, he will create a website Britishprasil and bring all the unclean to hand in clean water. But in general, oarlocks must be lubricated.
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  3. cniza
    cniza 6 February 2017 09: 06
    +4
    All is not enough money, it is necessary more and more, for this they wave a horror story in the form of Russia.
  4. sergo1914
    sergo1914 6 February 2017 09: 08
    +1
    Yeah. However, it is expected. The degradation of British shipbuilding began with the irons - "Nelson". While the Japanese, Germans, Americans, French and Italians made beauty, the Britons made freaks.
    1. Hadis1911
      Hadis1911 6 February 2017 09: 18
      +1
      Quote: sergo1914
      Yeah. However, it is expected. The degradation of British shipbuilding began with the irons - "Nelson". While the Japanese, Germans, Americans, French and Italians made beauty, the Britons made freaks.


      Do not write nonsense. The British have some of the best ships in the world.
      1. Alex_1973
        Alex_1973 6 February 2017 10: 08
        +5
        Hades1911 Today, 09: 18 ↑ New
        Do not write nonsense. The British have some of the best ships in the world.
        It was a long time ago and not true ...
        England has long lost the status of a leading maritime power. So now they don’t have any “best ships in the world”, in fact they don’t have a fleet at all. To escort our Kuzi barely barely scraped the heels of the ships.
      2. Topotun
        Topotun 6 February 2017 17: 53
        0
        The Germans had the best. And now it's generally difficult to judge who is better.
  5. jovanni
    jovanni 6 February 2017 09: 10
    +5
    British admiral: new destroyers will not be able to withstand Russian submarines

    So what's the problem? They can’t resist, let them not confront. Let's live in peace! Although what am I talking about ... To be friends with the Anglo-Saxons is more expensive ...
  6. viktor.
    viktor. 6 February 2017 09: 13
    +1
    Does the British Navy Threaten Russia? belay
    1. Hadis1911
      Hadis1911 6 February 2017 09: 18
      +2
      No, it's just that the British fleet is asking for loot.
    2. rasputin17
      rasputin17 6 February 2017 09: 20
      0
      Not! Rather, its anti-ship missiles! Now they are afraid of the Onyx and are waiting with fear for the Zircons whose tests are in full swing and they will be put into service at the end of the 17th and the beginning of the 18th year! hi
      1. Hadis1911
        Hadis1911 6 February 2017 09: 26
        0
        Quote: rasputin17
        Not! Rather, its anti-ship missiles! Now they are afraid of the Onyx and are waiting with fear for the Zircons whose tests are in full swing and they will be put into service at the end of the 17th and the beginning of the 18th year! hi


        What do you think they have no rockets?
        1. drunkram
          drunkram 6 February 2017 09: 32
          0
          missile defense wanted to say? and how do you imagine the protection from Zircons?
          1. Hadis1911
            Hadis1911 6 February 2017 09: 35
            +1
            Where did you find these missiles on your ships?
            1. rasputin17
              rasputin17 6 February 2017 09: 43
              +1
              Quote: Hades1911
              Where did you find these missiles on your ships?

              Learn mat.chast Dear!
              1. Hadis1911
                Hadis1911 6 February 2017 09: 46
                +1
                Quote: rasputin17
                Quote: Hades1911
                Where did you find these missiles on your ships?

                Learn mat.chast Dear!


                Can you tell Which ship these missiles are on?
                1. rasputin17
                  rasputin17 6 February 2017 09: 56
                  0
                  Everywhere Dear! Where there are modern rocket mines! They are universal and sharpened not under one specific missile. hi To you to list or so remember! ?? bully
                  1. Hadis1911
                    Hadis1911 6 February 2017 10: 12
                    0
                    Zircon?

                    It seems to be only planning for the future.
                    do you think they are already on duty?
                    1. Dali
                      Dali 6 February 2017 10: 24
                      +3
                      Quote: Hades1911
                      do you think they are already on duty?

                      Are you interested in a service or what? laughing

                      You ask in VO ?! belay
                      Duck can immediately write to the Ministry of Defense? laughing
                      There at least get an official answer ... laughing laughing laughing
                      1. Hadis1911
                        Hadis1911 6 February 2017 10: 31
                        0
                        It’s no secret that zircon is not in service.
                    2. Dali
                      Dali 6 February 2017 11: 13
                      +3
                      Quote: Hades1911
                      It’s no secret that zircon is not in service.

                      So why the question, since you know everything ?! belay laughing

                      I can answer this way, it’s no secret to anyone that they didn’t fly to the moon in the USA ...

                      To tell what is the difference ... okay, a soldier will not offend a child laughing , I’ll tell you, Zircon is either already in service or will stand unequivocally ... but yours didn’t even fly to the moon, and they won’t fly in the near future ... learn how to start making engines.
                    3. Topotun
                      Topotun 6 February 2017 17: 55
                      +1
                      There will be few old Mosquitoes too. As far as I know your love them very much. Hard with them.
              2. IvanDMB89
                IvanDMB89 6 February 2017 16: 55
                +1
                Exactly! Circus-On and Wunder-PR! The intergalactic laser is burning! Ponte - our FSE, from the Olympics to Football! Povetkin is the champion!
          2. rasputin17
            rasputin17 6 February 2017 09: 39
            +1
            Quote: drunkram
            and how do you imagine the protection from Zircons?

            Uh, how did you get it !!!! First, let them find alternative protection against our Granites and Basalts! good hi
          3. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 6 February 2017 10: 40
            +1
            Quote: drunkram
            and how do you imagine the protection from Zircons?

            Quote: Hades1911
            Where did you find these missiles on your ships?

            Quote: rasputin17
            Learn mat.chast Dear!

            Quote: rasputin17
            Everywhere Dear! Where there are modern rocket mines! They are universal and sharpened not under one specific missile. hi To you to list or so remember! ?? bully

            Quote: rasputin17
            Everywhere Dear! Where there are modern rocket mines!

            wassat fool it's time for you to sit down to study the materiel, there are no zircon cruise missiles yet .... and even more so they won’t be at allmodern rocket mines" fool Well, as it would be easier to say .... it will be anti-ship cruise missiles. They are not in service with the Russian Navy ... maybe in 3 years they will stand up, but these are projects ....
            1. Hadis1911
              Hadis1911 6 February 2017 10: 50
              +1
              Quote: Tiksi-3
              Quote: drunkram
              and how do you imagine the protection from Zircons?

              Quote: Hades1911
              Where did you find these missiles on your ships?

              Quote: rasputin17
              Learn mat.chast Dear!

              Quote: rasputin17
              Everywhere Dear! Where there are modern rocket mines! They are universal and sharpened not under one specific missile. hi To you to list or so remember! ?? bully

              Quote: rasputin17
              Everywhere Dear! Where there are modern rocket mines!

              wassat fool it's time for you to sit down to study the materiel, there are no zircon cruise missiles yet .... and even more so they won’t be at allmodern rocket mines" fool Well, as it would be easier to say .... it will be anti-ship cruise missiles. They are not in service with the Russian Navy ... maybe in 3 years they will stand up, but these are projects ....



              You do not upset them like that.
              1. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 6 February 2017 10: 52
                +2
                Quote: Hades1911
                You do not upset them like that.

                this is why? .... you need to take off your pink glasses and live in the real world .... drinks
                1. Hadis1911
                  Hadis1911 6 February 2017 11: 13
                  0
                  Some like to wear pink glasses. hi
            2. rasputin17
              rasputin17 6 February 2017 18: 04
              +1
              Read the entire dialogue carefully and do not pull words out of context

              they are waiting for the “Zircons” whose tests are in full swing and they will be put into service at the end of the 17th and the beginning of the 18th year!


              Do not build your conjectures from scratch. If my opponent with a mattress flag doesn’t understand Russian, then you should at least read carefully and don’t rubbish! hi
        2. rasputin17
          rasputin17 6 February 2017 09: 36
          0
          What do you think they have no rockets?

          The presence of missiles does not guarantee protection.
          1. Hadis1911
            Hadis1911 6 February 2017 09: 38
            0
            Well, clarify what guarantees?
        3. shinobi
          shinobi 6 February 2017 09: 46
          +1
          No one has hypersonic ones. They can be knocked down by creating a cloud of damaging elements on the final trajectory of the strike. Like the tanks, the Curtain or the Curtain. Which again we only have. And their ship options are only on paper .
          1. rasputin17
            rasputin17 6 February 2017 10: 01
            0
            The problem is that you still need to detect it! hi
            1. Hadis1911
              Hadis1911 6 February 2017 10: 13
              0
              Just the same, no one has a problem.
              1. rasputin17
                rasputin17 6 February 2017 18: 08
                0
                Quote: Hades1911
                Just the same, no one has a problem.

                If there were no problems, then NATO generals wouldn’t shit themselves in sneakers !!
          2. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 6 February 2017 14: 41
            +1
            Quote: shinobi
            From hypersonic no one has.

            On February 21, 2008 a satellite-rocket extravaganza took place over the Pacific Ocean - the Standard 3 rocket launched from the Aegis cruiser Lake Erie overtook its target at an altitude of 247 km. US intelligence satellite USA-193 was moving at that moment at the speed of 27 thousand km / h.
            1. Topotun
              Topotun 6 February 2017 17: 57
              +2
              Here is a small nuance - the satellite walked along a PERMANENT trajectory. And anti-carbel (at least some) change the trajectory in the final section.
  7. Vitalson
    Vitalson 6 February 2017 09: 28
    +1
    This leads to the conclusion that if your destroyers will sail no more than 10 miles from the British Isles, then Russian submarines will not touch them.
  8. drunkram
    drunkram 6 February 2017 09: 30
    0
    In the event of a big mess, your destroyers will most likely burn out in a nuclear flame than go to feed our halibut and Warsaw
    (by right of appeal to copy-paste (c))
  9. sergo1914
    sergo1914 6 February 2017 09: 34
    0
    Quote: Hades1911
    Quote: sergo1914
    Yeah. However, it is expected. The degradation of British shipbuilding began with the irons - "Nelson". While the Japanese, Germans, Americans, French and Italians made beauty, the Britons made freaks.


    Do not write nonsense. The British have some of the best ships in the world.


    For example?
  10. shinobi
    shinobi 6 February 2017 09: 38
    +6
    I don’t remember a single case in the foreseeable history that Russia would attack England. But the Britons did it. They grabbed it clear. Scream for their average man, taxes to lift up.
    1. Berber
      Berber 6 February 2017 11: 55
      0
      The military-industrial complex really wants money. Greed will destroy them.
  11. alex-cn
    alex-cn 6 February 2017 09: 45
    0
    Or maybe it’s better to accept what they actually can, refine the detection system is not so difficult. And take measures to ensure their defeat from long distances.
  12. Altona
    Altona 6 February 2017 09: 52
    +4
    What is it? They wrote that Western equipment is a super-duper, a Leopard wow tank, the F-22 fighter is the best, Arly Burke destroyers are excellent. And in general, the Russian army is a rusty technique, and solo conscripts oppressed by hazing and drunken generals. And then it turns out that neither the new destroyer, either a bucket like this 45, or a transformer box like Zamvolt. Aircraft do not fly, tanks are not on the move, new equipment breaks like a Zamvolt during a campaign, or cracks like a F-35 in flight.
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 6 February 2017 10: 00
      +1
      because we are afraid that the destroyers will break, Varshavyanka with the Indian! the aircraft carrier "drowns" the crew, leopards burn from the cornets 30 years ago, and the t-62s suddenly withstand the TOU ....
  13. san4es
    san4es 6 February 2017 10: 13
    +9
    Forgot the 2-World "Shaving" when the German boats butskali. The whole limit on the radar was lowered, now they’ll invest even more
  14. Sly
    Sly 6 February 2017 10: 46
    0
    Quote: Altona
    transformer box like Zamvolt

    killed))))
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 6 February 2017 10: 55
      +2
      Quote: Sly
      Quote: Altona
      transformer box like Zamvolt
      killed))))

      moreover, with a cap and from one throw))
  15. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 6 February 2017 11: 00
    0
    Taki, the royal fleet is shrinking, along with the British. And when they deal with it, the perverts always turn their thoughts in one direction. And this is good!
  16. Berber
    Berber 6 February 2017 11: 54
    0
    "The rule of Britain by the seas" is canceled. Long live the Russian Navy !!!
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  18. tlauicol
    tlauicol 6 February 2017 12: 17
    0
    http://www.news.com.au/world/video-reveals-the-mo
    ment-a-suicide-boat-rams-saudi-arabian-warship / ne
    ws-story/9b170528b37adc119bb7dd057737ffbb

    video of scooter attack of frigate Al Madina from the ship
  19. Orionvit
    Orionvit 6 February 2017 12: 50
    0
    Quote: viktor.
    Does the British Navy Threaten Russia? belay

    But do you not know that Russia is "threatening" not only the British fleet, but the whole world. It is enough to read the Western press, especially the British. laughing
  20. Orionvit
    Orionvit 6 February 2017 12: 54
    0
    Quote: alex-cn
    Or maybe it’s better to accept what they actually can, refine the detection system is not so difficult. And take measures to ensure their defeat from long distances.

    In fact, it is impossible to refine the detection system to infinity, they have their own technological limit. And by the way, it is very difficult.
  21. Orionvit
    Orionvit 6 February 2017 13: 04
    0
    Quote: Hades1911
    It’s no secret that zircon is not in service.

    Probably the Russian Ministry of Defense has forgotten to personally inform you. Or should it report what it puts into service and what not? Whether they are in service or not, highly aggressive Western "partners" will find out about this in the first place, and judging by their completely non-peaceful statements, they have every chance.
  22. Altona
    Altona 6 February 2017 13: 13
    0
    Quote: Sly
    Quote: Altona
    transformer box like Zamvolt

    killed))))

    ------------------------
    Well hello, Zamvolt has excess electrification both for powering its complex of radars, made in the form of a pyramidal structure made of balsa and foil, and for powering a promising railgun, which has not yet been installed, but is being extensively tested. That is, what do you propose to name? The engine shaft rotates the generator, the generator gives petarism. Further transformers.
  23. Shuttle
    Shuttle 6 February 2017 13: 13
    0
    Are you sure that he was the admiral of this particular country?

    Horatio Nelson as if indignant.
  24. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 6 February 2017 17: 02
    0
    In give! and drank the dough again and again ask for money to upgrade and upgrade!
  25. Niccola Mack
    Niccola Mack 8 February 2017 05: 40
    0
    and also found unsuccessful procurement transactions at a time

    This is now so gently called "cut."
    Unsuccessful is not for everyone, for someone very successful.