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Without jet thrust: the degradation of the Argentine Air Force continues

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According to Jane's Defense Weekly, Argentine Defense Minister Julio Martinez 1 February 2017 explained that following a joint discussion of the issue with Argentine President Mauricio Macri, the government decided to suspend the purchase of new fighters, which had previously been planned to replace the old American attack aircraft Lockheed Martin (McDonnell Douglas) A-4AR Fightinghawk.



This type of aircraft is supposed to be completely removed from the arsenal of the Argentine Air Force before 2018 due to the lack of spare parts and the development of a resource. In November, 2015, the massive cancellation of Dassault Mirage fighters, which remained without any replacement, was already taking place.

Instead of A-4AR, it was planned to procure 12 light fighter / combat-training aircraft as a temporary measure, which could be Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) FA-50 or Leonardo M-346FT.

Thus, in case of decommissioning the A-4AR, the Argentine Air Force will remain completely without jet fighters. The cause of the degradation of the Air Force is the difficult financial situation of the country. The country's economy is reeling from 2001, when the largest stories default (on 80 billion dollars). It was caused mainly by the pegging of the national currency to the US dollar, which affected the competitiveness of local production, and the redistribution of investments in favor of the regional leader, Brazil.

In these conditions, the stake is on the development of cheaper segments aviation. Argentinean Air Force will focus on the purchase of about ten turboprop aircraft to control the country's northern border against illegal flights, strengthening fleet IA-58 Pucará aircraft, partially replacing the Embraer EMB-312 Tucano as advanced training aircraft.
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  1. bubalik
    bubalik 3 February 2017 11: 26
    +2
    ,,, you tell a friend about domestic aviation, Argentina why do I need ,,,
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 3 February 2017 11: 28
      +5
      not so, let them take our moment, if they do not pull yak130.
      1. WUA 518
        WUA 518 3 February 2017 11: 32
        +4
        Quote: newbie
        not so, let them take our moment, if they do not pull yak130.

        1. newcomer
          newcomer 3 February 2017 11: 36
          +3
          what is the highlight?
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 3 February 2017 11: 39
        +9
        Quote: newbie
        not so, let them take our moment, if they do not pull yak130.

        The only question is what they will pay. request
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 3 February 2017 11: 44
          +4
          I hope the currency. if not, you can throw a couple of three old twinkles29, su27, bind them with payment for maintenance and z.p. Well, as an option, you can consider.
          1. WUA 518
            WUA 518 3 February 2017 11: 50
            +3
            Quote: newbie
            I hope the currency. if not,

            I mean, for glass beads or something?
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 3 February 2017 11: 54
              +3
              it seems the same to me, if the beads are gold then yes. I mean already for a couple of minutes at a ton to maintain a ton of summer. the composition is already scraped. but no, no, let them degrade further.
              1. WUA 518
                WUA 518 3 February 2017 12: 02
                +1
                MiG AT is more likely dead than alive.
                1. newcomer
                  newcomer 3 February 2017 12: 05
                  +3
                  something new, can you read more? because until now, rsk offers a foreign customer variations instant at.
                  1. WUA 518
                    WUA 518 3 February 2017 12: 08
                    +1
                    After losing the competition in which the Yak-130 won, the MiG-AT was offered for export for some time, but by 2010, having not found a single client interested in finishing the machine, all work had been stopped. At the Znamya Truda plant in Moscow, as for 2013, there was a production reserve for several copies of the installation lot and equipment for the production of MiG-AT. In the presence of the customer and financing renewal of the program is possible.
                    1. newcomer
                      newcomer 3 February 2017 12: 16
                      +5
                      Yes, I taste, thanks for the answer. I now see that it is not so poor, this Argentina.
            2. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 3 February 2017 12: 41
              +2
              Quote: WUA 518
              I mean, for glass beads or something?

              football players laughing
          2. Orionvit
            Orionvit 3 February 2017 17: 36
            +1
            Read the article. What does it say about currency?
            The cause of the degradation of the Air Force is the difficult financial situation of the country. The country's economy has been in a fever since 2001, when the largest default in history ($ 80 billion) was declared. It was mainly caused by the pegging of the national currency to the US dollar, which hit the competitiveness of local production
            This applies to everyone, not just Argentina. Sometimes beads are more profitable than green pieces of paper.
      3. Koshak
        Koshak 3 February 2017 12: 24
        +1
        Quote: newbie
        not so, let them take our moment, if they do not pull yak130.

        What problems? North Koreans An-2 adapted for the attack aircraft. Watch from 12:24
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or6qeuYQyxM
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 3 February 2017 12: 33
          0
          Quote: Koshak
          An-2 adapted for the attack aircraft.

          Hi friend. Well, that one is possible. Maybe they bought in this configuration. laughing
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        the most important 3 February 2017 14: 05
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          the most important 3 February 2017 14: 07
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            the most important 3 February 2017 14: 08
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    2. 210ox
      210ox 3 February 2017 11: 29
      0
      Yes, Argentina itself doesn’t seem to be necessary .. But the data on their (and not only them) Air Force should be ..
      Quote: bubalik
      ,,, you tell a friend about domestic aviation, Argentina why do I need ,,,
  2. Primipilus
    Primipilus 3 February 2017 11: 31
    +1
    For a country in the Big Twenty, this is just a shame. Argentine Navy is also degrading.
    1. Bath
      Bath 3 February 2017 11: 39
      +1
      no it's a shame it's just a good drink
  3. VSZMK
    VSZMK 3 February 2017 11: 35
    +3
    The cause of the degradation of the Air Force is the difficult financial situation of the country.

    Let them turn to the players to throw in a couple of fighters (SU-35 Messi, it sounds!).
  4. Bath
    Bath 3 February 2017 11: 38
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    Yes, Argentina itself seems to be no reason .. But the data on their (and not only them) Air Force

    What for? We are not going to fight with them the boundaries of common dumb
  5. -Barbarian-
    -Barbarian- 3 February 2017 11: 41
    0
    Argentina creates something unique militarily ... a new word in military affairs!
    It's like a riddle laughing :
    What flies through the sky without having wings?
    What can run without legs?
    What can sail, although there are no sails?
    And in the end, all troops should become invisible!
  6. Maximillian von Adelheid
    Maximillian von Adelheid 3 February 2017 11: 53
    +4
    peg to the US dollar

    Here's the answer ... Do you still not believe in the dollar? Then we fly to you! wassat
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 February 2017 11: 54
    0
    Quote: newbie
    what is the highlight?

    Obviously in Argentina, which few people care about today.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 3 February 2017 11: 59
      +3
      but is it really bad if you bind them by slipping them either a moment or something of junk?
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 3 February 2017 12: 42
        +1
        To date, the United States aircraft dominate the Argentine Air Force, oddly enough, the Netherlands (transport aircraft) and Argentina itself. There is no talk about our defense industry yet.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 February 2017 11: 57
    +2
    What does Argentina produce most deliciously there? Beef? So she will be paid. For 10 thousand tons of beef per Mig -35. Everything is clear. And profitable. wassat
    1. marshes
      marshes 3 February 2017 12: 17
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What does Argentina produce most deliciously there? Beef? So she will be paid. For 10 thousand tons of beef per Mig -35. Everything is clear. And profitable.

      Who benefits, farmers in Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan.
      My will, in general, banned the sale of deep-frozen meat in the territory of the Customs Union, the EAEU. In addition to the countries included in this union.
  9. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 3 February 2017 11: 58
    +10
    Oh, this "unfortunate" Argentina! She is “unhappy” because of the stupidity, cowardice and incompetence of her politicians and leaders. When they imposed sanctions on us and we introduced our own food embargo, naturally, our businessmen began to look for other markets for food purchases, especially beef and, of course, turned to Argentina for this. However, instead of selling meat to us at the usual prices that exist for this type of transaction, the Argentine government pushed up prices for beef and other products for Russia two to three times motivating this with the “risks” of transactions with countries that are “under sanctions” . Moreover, ours tried to purchase some "sanctioned" equipment for themselves through Argentina, so the Argentines immediately shouted loudly: "We will not allow the purchase of sanctioned goods and equipment through Argentinean companies! We are part of the civilized world and strictly abide by international rules ! We don’t want to quarrel with influential countries over a couple of billions of dollars there! Well, and in the same vein ... "Well, if you don’t want to, since you are" afraid ", then you don’t have to," suck your paw "and more ....
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 3 February 2017 12: 05
      +4
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Moreover, ours tried to procure some “sanctioned” equipment for themselves through Argentina, so they shouted at once loudly: “We will not allow purchases of sanctioned goods and equipment through Argentinean companies! Matthew is part of the civilized world and strictly abide by international rules! We don’t want to quarrel with influential countries because of some kind of billions of dollars worth of grass! Well, in the same vein ... "

      In fact, here the args are somewhat right - the Yankees have never refused the Monroe Doctrine. And twist gray schemes in their backyard is extremely difficult and fraught with the most serious consequences.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 4 February 2017 00: 21
        0
        A few years ago, the Americans officially abandoned the Monroe Doctrine.
    2. marshes
      marshes 3 February 2017 12: 18
      0
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      However, instead of selling us meat at regular prices,

      Why do you need the meat of Argentinean cows, do not suit their own?
      1. Großer feldherr
        Großer feldherr 3 February 2017 13: 06
        0
        Question in quantity.
        Now we have already switched to our own agricultural products, but this was not always the case.
        It’s been a matter of more than one day to increase meat production, and after the imposition of sanctions, the Russians did not eat less, so they had to look for a temporary alternative to “western” suppliers around the world.
        1. marshes
          marshes 3 February 2017 13: 13
          0
          Quote: Großer Feldherr
          Question in quantity.
          Now we have already switched to our own agricultural products, but this was not always the case.
          It’s been a matter of more than one day to increase meat production, and after the imposition of sanctions, the Russians did not eat less, so they had to look for a temporary alternative to “western” suppliers around the world.

          Yes, everything rests on time here.
          Yes, there is no incentive in the development of livestock farming in the Kyrgyz Republic, provided that the land leased by the state and banks are not eager to lend it, it would be private, you can at least set it as collateral. Only hope for subsidies but time is passing.
          1. Alex_Tug
            Alex_Tug 3 February 2017 14: 20
            0
            there is no incentive in the development of livestock farming in the Kyrgyz Republic, provided that the land leased by the state and banks are not burning desire to lend

            Did not get to the giraffe. All agricultural land is privately owned. Land in the hands of the state is not very suitable for agricultural production.
            1. marshes
              marshes 3 February 2017 15: 18
              0
              Quote: Alex_Tug
              Did not get to the giraffe. All agricultural land is privately owned. Land in the hands of the state is not very suitable for agricultural production.

              That in the Russian Federation that in the KZ land agricultural land belongs to the state and you can rent it for 49 years. Private property may not have large adjoining plots. But mineral resources, water, for example, do not belong to you.
              1. Alex_Tug
                Alex_Tug 3 February 2017 15: 23
                0
                What in the Russian Federation, what in the KZ, agricultural land belongs to the state

                You are mistaken. In the Russian Federation during privatization, all agricultural lands passed into the private property of workers (collective farmers). Today, farmers rent or buy land from their owners.
                1. marshes
                  marshes 3 February 2017 15: 42
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                  Quote: Alex_Tug
                  You are mistaken. In the Russian Federation during privatization, all agricultural lands passed into the private property of workers (collective farmers). Today, farmers rent or buy land from their owners.

                  We have the same garbage, but I’m reading your land code.
                  Article 20-24, legally confused but still the land is not in private ownership. What the units were distributed at the former state farms is the right to work on these lands.
                  http://www.zemkodeks.ru/kodeks/zemkodeksru/zemkod
                  ex-chapter4.html
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 4 February 2017 00: 22
        0
        Argentinean beef is traditionally considered one of the best in the world.
  10. Topotun
    Topotun 3 February 2017 12: 15
    0
    Why do they need it? Smugglers can drive and piston .....
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 3 February 2017 12: 36
      +1
      For a long time already they would have done something of their own. They have a rather worthy reactive combat training Pampa and a Pukar helicopter attack aircraft, so far they would have developed them.
      1. Koshak
        Koshak 3 February 2017 13: 21
        0
        Quote: quilted jacket
        For a long time already they would have done something of their own. They have a rather worthy reactive combat training Pampa and a Pukar helicopter attack aircraft, so far they would have developed them.

        Where is the money, Zin? The question is not in the pieces of iron, but in the pieces of paper (green) or what color they are in Argentina.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 3 February 2017 18: 00
          0
          Quote: Koshak
          The question is not in pieces of iron, but in pieces of paper

          Well, this is understandable, but in any case, you need to look for planes not on the side, but invest money in your industry and "finish off" Pampa, for example, to an easy attack aircraft.
  11. Vitalson
    Vitalson 3 February 2017 13: 33
    +1
    Quote: vovanpain
    The only question is what they will pay.

    Argentines ....
  12. iouris
    iouris 4 February 2017 16: 31
    0
    This is their revenge 1) for football, 2) for the Malvinas. Arms supplies to Argentina could be paid by China 1) for football, 2) for the Malvinas. The Russian Federation: 1) hockey, 2) the Kuril Islands, 3) Ukraine and Belarus, 4) Syria, 5) the salary of a teacher Ivanova in the Ivanovo region. - 7 tyr / 590 = $ 120, the average salary of her husband working in two or three jobs - 12 tyr - $ 200, 6) elections ...
  13. Mista_dj
    Mista_dj 8 February 2017 07: 53
    +1
    There is, I think, a great idea!
    We have several airplanes for them (even the MiG-21 will be happy for them), and they, our assholes, will be taught to play football!
    Well, or they will play for our team themselves.
    drinks