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Rallies: the number of supporters of the government exceeded the number of oppositionists

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Rallies: the number of supporters of the government exceeded the number of oppositionists



In the capital, protests ended. According to the General Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation in Moscow, the maximum number of participants in the rally of patriotic forces on Poklonnaya Hill in statics was about 138 thousand people. "Taking into account the people coming and going, the number of participants in the event could have been greater," the department said. Those who gathered at the rally occupied the entire space from the Victory Park subway to the stela in front of the Museum of the Great Patriotic War.

The posters and banners raised above the rally participants included slogans: “We don’t want revolutions,” “We are against rocking the country,” “Elections must be fair,” “Gazprom, enough to feed Echo of Moscow!” And others.

“We have different points of view, but we are unanimous in the fact that we have Russia, that we will not allow it to collapse,” said political rally leader, public figure Sergei Kurginyan. "Orange wanted to dictate 150 to millions of people, bringing a crowd of people to the streets. Let them see how many people came against them. And if necessary, we will bring even more," he said.

"The Orange say they beat Putin, and they beat the Russian state," said writer Alexander Prokhanov, in turn. "We are for fair elections, so that our factories are restored, our submarines float, our spaceship flew to Mars," he said.

Another rally leader, Maksim Shevchenko, expressed confidence that the orange movement was “an American fake.” “We will decide who will be our president,” he said.

“We will not allow Russia to collapse. It will not repeat the fate of the Soviet Union, it has defenders,” said Pavel Popovskikh, head of the Union of Russian Paratroopers. "Let's follow the actions of the Orange: another month before the elections, and they have already declared the elections illegitimate. The landing party is with you!", He said, addressing the crowd.

Writer Edward Bagirov noted that Vladimir Putin expressed support for the rally. “As a confidant of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, I convey greetings from him,” he said.

The posters and banners raised above the rally participants contained slogans: “We don’t want revolutions,” “We are against rocking the country,” “Elections must be fair,” “Gazprom, enough to feed Echo of Moscow!” other.

The participants of the rally also expressed support for the candidate for the presidency of the Russian Federation, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. They held posters with inscriptions: “Putin is our president!”, “For Putin!”, “Putin = stability!”. The rally ended with a friendly chant "No to the orange plague!", ITAR-TASS reports.

Opposition rally "For Fair Elections" broke the record of the previous two in number. According to police, up to 40 thousand people took part in it. Last time, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, up to 30 thousand people participated in the rally "For fair elections" on Academician Sakharov Avenue. "Today, the maximum number of participants at the peak was 35-36 thousand people," - said the press service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Interior in Moscow.

However, information about the number of protesters was again fundamentally different: the organizers of the march, which started from Bolshaya Yakimanka, and the rally "For Fair Elections" at Bolotnaya Square, reported that more than 100 thousand people came to the rally. However, the permitted number of participants has been set to 50 thousands. The rally has already ended, its participants are leaving the Swamp area. The next action, as reported by the event’s leader, Vladimir Ryzhkov, will be held in Moscow on February 26.

The opposition rally also took place on Sakharov Avenue. It was organized by businessman Konstantin Borov and leader of the unregistered Demsoyuz party Valeria Novodvorskaya. According to the organizers, Sakharov Avenue should have gathered up to 30 thousands of participants, however, several dozen people came.

About a thousand people took part in the rally "For Clean and Honest Democracy", organized on Pushkin Square in support of LDPR presidential candidate Vladimir Zhirinovsky. The event took place without incident.

In his speech to the rally participants, Vladimir Zhirinovsky said that the Liberal Democrats "stand in solidarity with everyone who is protesting against the elections," and accused the government of having "provoked people to go out into the street."

Deputies of the State Duma from the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia and the leader of "Labor Russia" Viktor Anpilov also spoke at the rally. The participants of the event waved yellow-blue party flags and chanted “Zhirinovsky is our president”.

Mass protests were held throughout Russia. Thousands of people took to the streets of major cities with flags and posters. Moscow was joined by: St. Petersburg, Irkutsk, Novosibirsk, Kemerovo, Barnaul, Bryansk, Chelyabinsk, Abakan, Chita, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky.
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  1. Vrangel
    Vrangel 4 February 2012 16: 12
    +26
    Well done Muscovites!
    1. esaul
      esaul 4 February 2012 16: 16
      +26
      Vrangel,
      Quote: Vrangel
      Well done Muscovites!

      But it could not be otherwise! Thank God there are more healthy forces in the country and in the capital city! drinks
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 4 February 2012 17: 22
        +15
        So, let this blue orange cover up the hollow with an orange peel! Nehru hide behind folk backs and spit saliva, to hell with them from a high hill! Let them jump across the squares at least every day, everything is already clear. He laughed at Novodvorskaya, nearly died, it would be better if I died, eat, trophy horse! For Vovka-bro!
        1. alexng
          alexng 4 February 2012 17: 50
          +10
          Here's another one about this:
          Link http://news.yandex.ru/yandsearch?cl4url=www.ria.ru%2Finquest%2F20120204%2F556661

          764.html

          And here is the text itself
          "Investigative Committee found signs of editing in videos about electoral violations

          An interesting fact is that all the videos were distributed from a single server located in the United States in California. In this regard, measures are now being taken to establish the authors and customers of these videos, the agency’s website reports. Komsomol truth 16: 36

          The videos posted on the Internet about violations in the elections of State Duma deputies of the sixth convocation have signs of installation and were distributed from one server in the United States, RIA Novosti official representative of the UK IC Vladimir Markin.
          "
          1. Auschwitz
            Auschwitz 5 February 2012 00: 01
            +9
            On Poklonnaya Hill, an “Anti-Orange” rally was held under the slogan “We have something to lose,” in which, according to the data of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, 138 thousand people. The organizers have already stated that everyone came absolutely voluntarily. The publication "Reedus" with reference to "Interfax" reports that "representatives of all those organizations that have declared their participation" have come. The rally to the songs of the Lube group was led by journalist Maxim Shevchenko.

            The protesters said they would not allow the country to collapse and did not want any revolutions. In the crowd, “Putin, we are with you!” Posters were visible and "Putin is the president of the people." According to the publication, the action lasted less than an hour and a half.






            Tomorrow there will be more photos
            1. Chukotka resident
              Chukotka resident 5 February 2012 00: 08
              .
              Quote: Auschwitz
              “We have something to lose”


              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxTUCGPf474

              So we get from those 138 - 69 against Putin.
              Quote: Auschwitz
              According to the publication, the action lasted less than an hour and a half.

              I’ve been to such events as a student many years ago, I was also taken on buses ... So I don’t even need to read - I just need to look at the banners and faces of people.
              1. urzul
                urzul 5 February 2012 11: 51
                +2
                In Ukraine, then beloved, at the orange rallies?
              2. alex-defensor
                alex-defensor 8 February 2012 23: 53
                -1
                Resident of Chukotka.

                No, how can one be referred to as evidence, only to logical conclusions performed by Zadornov ?!

                And at -20 what did you want to see faces? Due to swamp mold normal patriotic people had to go out. It’s good that the swamp is far away, they would tear and trample this mold.

                138 thousand gathered, you can exhale Resident of Chukotka and wipe the foam from your mouth ... "rust revolution" failed and will not take place.

                Now I propose to call all the sub-posts "Swamp mold".
            2. Sokerin
              Sokerin 6 February 2012 00: 58
              -1
              One hundred forty million idiots
              What is nobody to put forward in the leaders ???
              Only from the “swamp” pseudo-patriots,
              You, my Russia, do not expect salvation ....
          2. Auschwitz
            Auschwitz 5 February 2012 00: 27
            +13
            In the struggle for power, the opposition is even ready to cooperate with the enemies of Russia and neglecting the will of the people, is ready to recognize the choice of the people in the upcoming presidential elections as not legitimate.
            I watched in the news the reaction of Zyuganov and Mironov to the campaign of members of their parties to a closed meeting with the US ambassador. The main thing that the participants of the meeting rest on is that there was nothing reprehensible in the meeting, they simply shared information. But if the issue of Putin’s unlawful removal was not discussed at the meeting, even if the people choose him, then why was it closed without media invitation? The reaction of Zyuganov and Mironov also explains the participation of members of their parties in rallies of liberoids. The Communist Party and Fair Russia are as rotten as the non-systemic opposition, which wants to disrupt the people's legitimate will in the upcoming presidential election and try to take power, contrary to the will of the people. If I still doubted whether to vote for Putin or Zyuganov, now I am convinced that it is impossible to vote for Zyuganov, as well as for Mironov. I’m not even talking about Prokhorov, this one will easily sell Russia to the West for profit. One can only hope that, finally, an opposition party will appear that is really thinking about the common people and about Russia, and not about its power, and will not try to seize power against the will of the people. And if she comes to power, then by constitutional means, relying on the support of the majority of the people. But if such a party does appear, it is now only in the future, after the election.

            Chukotka resident
            one has only to look at the banners and faces of people.

            HAHAHA !!!
            Disruptions in the petroleum jelly industry left an indelible mark on orange activists

            Swamp Homosexual laughing laughing laughing
            OLO !!!
            HAHAHA !!!

            love

            Ordinary People Swamp shusher just Sent ON XXX !!!


            Swamp today February 4 almost EMPT crying
            1. Reader
              Reader 5 February 2012 00: 45
              +7
              Find the differences
              For comparison:

              Swamp:


              Worship:
              1. Auschwitz
                Auschwitz 5 February 2012 01: 23
                +7
                ORANGE ZOO



                And around millionaires - Money does not peck chickens, Between them, like jackals, Poor people scurry about. ...
                1. Reader
                  Reader 5 February 2012 04: 23
                  +1
                  Krasnodar rally of the ORANGE OPPOSITION “For Fair Elections” THIS IS EPIC MARASM !!! bully
                  SUCH A SHAMMER HAS NOT BEEN EXPERIENCED

                  THIS IS THE LEADER !!! OLOLO

                  HERE AND THEIR PROGRAM

                  AND THIS IS THEIR SLOGAN !!!
            2. Sergh
              Sergh 5 February 2012 08: 11
              +2
              Auschwitz, the second photo, which from the window with a man on his finger, looked most of all! The moral is like, he sent the whole crowd to Kui and nobody will do anything to him, it's cool!
          3. alexng
            alexng 5 February 2012 01: 11
            +2
            Here is a link to a French documentary about color revolutions.
            http://rutube.ru/tracks/38992.html?v=429556299de71b5d
        2. Pavel V
          Pavel V 4 February 2012 19: 04
          +5
          Quote: Sergh
          So, let this blue orange cover up the hollow with an orange peel!

          1. dimaas
            dimaas 4 February 2012 19: 37
            .
            Does the Pindos Superman save antipindosnikov (or is it Spider-Man?)
            1. NovoSibirets
              NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 19: 48
              +16
              Calm, colleague! Pictured naaash, the Chelyabinsk man - steelmaker Dulin! So severe that even at a rally he doesn’t take off his steelwork pants and a blue latex suit !!!

              A Pindos superman below!

              1. recitatorus
                recitatorus 4 February 2012 22: 14
                +7
                Kommunyaks have corrupted all the beauty1 ..
                1. Auschwitz
                  Auschwitz 4 February 2012 22: 18
                  +5
                  Quote: recitatorus
                  Kommunyaks have corrupted all the beauty1 ..

                  But the demshiza restored
                  1. Chukotka resident
                    Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 23: 19
                    .
                    Auschwitz,
                    Kremlin dwarfs will lose. drinks
                  2. novikovtolik
                    novikovtolik 4 February 2012 23: 48
                    -6
                    That where you saw demshizna? well ..
                2. Chukotka resident
                  Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 23: 18
                  .
                  recitatorus,
                  Fishery photo-asses - the strengths of the Kremlin’s arguments are added only among the dippers.
                3. novikovtolik
                  novikovtolik 4 February 2012 23: 34
                  -3
                  come on grandmother ruff. let him dream.
        3. Chukotka resident
          Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 22: 38
          .
          There is hope...
          1. alexng
            alexng 4 February 2012 23: 13
            +7
            Hope it all comes true.
            1. NovoSibirets
              NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 23: 14
              +4
              To the 10 point!
          2. sedoj
            sedoj 5 February 2012 00: 47
            +10
            In, even ghouls are now for Putin.
      2. vadimus
        vadimus 4 February 2012 19: 55
        +8
        Well, here is the cookie for the underserved, undershot ..... however, I’ll leave how much can I ... I love RUSSIA !!!!!
      3. Chukotka resident
        Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 22: 37
        -9
        esaul,
        Our locomotive flies in front ...
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 9 February 2012 22: 11
          0
          Your personal photo resident.
    2. Auschwitz
      Auschwitz 4 February 2012 18: 49
      +9
      Ours on Poklonnaya was many times more than those on the swamp.
      And one more main detail in the orange swamp was attended by people (and there were more than half of them) under the red flags of the USSR and Russian Imperial banners, so this potential voter is Patriot Elector and not the destroyer.
      So there is no doubt that the Presidential elections will take place and Our Great People will make the right choice. They will choose the Person who is rooting for our country for Russia!
      Our President is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin!

      Everyone couldn’t even get to the rally on Poklonnaya Gora. The authorities didn’t let all the guys. It’s a paradox not to paralyze the work of transport!
      1. Tatars
        Tatars 4 February 2012 20: 06
        +5
        The United States probably realized that it is not possible to arrange an orange revolution in Russia
        1. esaul
          esaul 4 February 2012 20: 12
          +1
          Quote: Tatars
          The United States probably realized that it is not possible to arrange an orange revolution in Russia

          Your words, colleague, yes us - to the heated graves! ... drinks
          1. ole
            ole 4 February 2012 23: 12
            +2
            No guys under this business, they’ll print a lot of dough, just so that the situation in the country was tense.
        2. Sergh
          Sergh 4 February 2012 20: 15
          +2
          Guys, Now he was specially reviewing the entire Swamp gathering, for two whole hours, well, through force. So spit, even the monitor barely wiped away, such vomit !!! Almost everyone has changed the speakers.
          From 15-20 votes from the crowd answers the speeches and slogans, from the front ranks. Parfyonov drove something about television, so much so that his ears were wrapped and everything else was in such a dancelike spirit. A shame!
        3. 5 February 2012 00: 43
          +5
          Quote: Tatars

          The United States probably realized that it is not possible to arrange an orange revolution in Russia

          Putin still warned the Pindos about 4 years ago that he should not waste money on the revolution in Russia. Judas in Russia is far from the favorite character.
        4. Darn
          Darn 5 February 2012 12: 37
          +1
          Alas, the United States is a strong and very vile adversary that they still come up with. As
          The prize (the collapse of Russia) is very seductive.
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 4 February 2012 20: 17
      +20
      It seems to me today the statement by Stolypin (on revolutionaries) is relevant: “They need great shocks, we need great Russia!”
      1. esaul
        esaul 4 February 2012 20: 55
        +2
        Vadivak,
        Vadim, I welcome you! These words have always been and are relevant for the true patriots of their country and do not forget to repeat them often! I support your comment and shake your hand! Regards, Esaul. good
      2. ole
        ole 4 February 2012 23: 15
        +6
        100% and how the phoenix Russia will rise from the ashes
        1. Chukotka resident
          Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 23: 26
          -9
          Quote: ole
          100% and how the phoenix Russia will rise from the ashes

          Maybe Russia is not utopian with such a people? Interesting - we'll see.
        2. Darn
          Darn 5 February 2012 12: 41
          +3
          I also think so Russia will rise from the ashes like a Phoenix bird.
    4. vadimus
      vadimus 4 February 2012 21: 17
      +5
      Bulk, cheeky, and the rest x-uesos swept ... Love for the MOTHERLINE you will not kill ... It's the MOTHERLAND !!!
    5. Chukotka resident
      Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 22: 04
      .
      They whipped them under threat of dismissal at -20 frost of state employees and called it "200" thousand.
      And in the swamp everything is at will. Given that on the bow through force - you can ascribe half of them against the path. I went through those technologies, and I know how it ends.
      The main thing is that the Kremlin - repeats all the technology errors.

























      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 4 February 2012 22: 33
        +13
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        They whipped them under threat of dismissal at -20 frost of state employees and called it "200" thousand.


        It is interesting to whom the messages on posters in English are addressed? And the fact that Ksyusha is in opposition - do not tell, she works only for money
        1. Chukotka resident
          Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 23: 21
          -9
          Quote: Vadivak
          It is interesting to whom the messages on posters in English are addressed?

          To the world community, let them laugh at the dwarfs too.
          Quote: Vadivak
          And the fact that Ksyusha is in opposition - do not tell, she works only for money

          Ksyusha from power - at a rally .... what time! good
      2. vadimus
        vadimus 4 February 2012 22: 38
        +9
        Have you been to Chukotka, by-bylo?
        1. alexng
          alexng 4 February 2012 23: 18
          +7
          He is a resident of Alaska.
        2. Chukotka resident
          Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 23: 23
          .
          Quote: vadimus
          Have you been to Chukotka, by-bylo?

          Kremlin banderlog - of course I was not in Chukotka. This is a mockery and informational support for the Chukchi and ridicule of banderlogs.
          1. vadimus
            vadimus 6 February 2012 00: 55
            +1
            , I’m not a Kremlin, u-rod, I’m Russian, a rat, and people like me COUNTRY !!!
      3. Mi
        Mi 4 February 2012 23: 10
        +12
        Dear, now state employees will not be expelled to the rally either with a whip or at gunpoint if they themselves do not want to! And they won’t get fired, because who will work instead of me? Are you a resident of Chukotka?
    6. Auschwitz
      Auschwitz 4 February 2012 23: 50
      +5
      All of Russia supported the course towards stability, Russia without shocks!
      The opposition in the regions is a complete failure, against the background of this, the people who rally in their cities have an obvious majority, there is no arguing with this, here are the statistics:
      Jewish Autonomous Oblast, Birobidzhan - more than 600 people
      Chelyabinsk more than 3000
      Voronezh about 15 thousand
      Omsk - 8 thousand
      Kursk - 5 thousand
      Naryan mar - about a thousand
      Syktyvkar - about 1,5 thousand
      Penza - 3500
      Astrakhan - 2000
      Kyzyl - 2000
      Ufa - 5000
      1. Chukotka resident
        Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 23: 57
        -9
        Auschwitz,




        1. Reader
          Reader 5 February 2012 01: 09
          +6
          In Rostov-on-Don, a rally of supporters of Vladimir Putin took place, initiated by the regional people's headquarters in support of presidential candidate V. Putin.
          As promised, the organizers around noon on the square next to the Gorky Drama Theater gathered about 3 thousand participants according to the estimate of the Central Internal Affairs Directorate of the Rostov Region. People were sitting at the makeshift stage, filling spaces free of fountains and lawns. Judging by the posters and banners half an hour A rally in support of Putin brought together not only residents of the regional center, but also representatives of subsidized rural areas of the Don, depressed mining areas. A large number of people in hats and camouflage attested to the solid support of the prime minister from the Don Cossacks.


          Ural workers held a rally in support of Vladimir Putin.


          A rally in support of V. Putin in Astrakhan.


        2. Sandov
          Sandov 9 February 2012 22: 20
          0
          How much dough Pindos spent on anal, bull and the like.
      2. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 5 February 2012 13: 24
        -2
        200 Russian billionaires in the Forbes list also for a stable increase in pumping oil, gas over a hill
    7. 5 February 2012 00: 38
      +4
      Quote: Vrangel
      Well done Muscovites!

      Really, well done! good
      So in Moscow everything is not so bad.
    8. oper66
      oper66 5 February 2012 09: 25
      +1
      in any nation, the ratio of mentally ill people is always much less than healthy, so the fact is that traitors in minority face the question why I consider them mentally ill I will answer right away - people with sexual disabilities who abuse drugs and alcohol do not recognize their homeland are sick, but they must be sent there for treatment whom do they advocate
  2. Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 16: 13
    +35
    Well, well, this was to be expected
    1. Pavel V
      Pavel V 4 February 2012 16: 25
      +9
      Photos in the subject. Just reflects our reality.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 16: 29
        0
        And you enlarge the image and take a closer look, my Krasnoyarsk has become just as handsome.
      2. esaul
        esaul 4 February 2012 16: 36
        +2
        Quote: Pavel V
        Photos in the subject. Just reflects our reality.








        I agree! Stumble! good
    2. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 4 February 2012 16: 37
      +29
      Alexey Prikazchikov
      This does not mean anything. It is even doubtful.
      This is Moscow? Then it’s clear ... Everything dies behind the golden ring.
      Can I put a photo of my city without embellishment?
      I can add ruins of villages, former collective farms and state farms to the weeds.
      We have this good here, as after the war. Near Belarus, another world.
      Better army photos, Alex. There is a more obvious difference.
      No offense, Alex. This is a good recommendation.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 16: 55
        +1
        I don’t know how your city is there, but mine just blossomed. I am very interested in development and various construction, so here we have a lot of cities besides depressive ones, of course, they are rebuilding at the Chinese pace. Evroopeytsev for this is an international site.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivxmgT-LNS4&feature=player_embedded


        But I highly recommend you watch the link to the interesting show, you won’t regret it. ! 0 years ago they despised us; now they look into our mouths; look at the profile of Mai Kamenty; I posted news there about how New Zealand wants to join the TS, these are our achievements and there are many of them. And what about you is the concept of such a depressive region, you seem to live in such a place, you need a competent guide there, and by the way, where do you live, I want to see your district is simple.
        1. TRex
          TRex 4 February 2012 17: 53
          +8
          Son! When will you stop making mistakes in simple Russian words? You are engaged in development, the hand of the Guide, probably ...
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 17: 59
            -1
            I am not interested in more.
        2. Samsebenaum
          Samsebenaum 4 February 2012 18: 10
          +13
          Well, I’ll specially prepare the selection, only the frosts will subside. Not too lazy. I’ll drop it, I promise. Also, what remains of the military units and airfields, if the guard does not drive away ... I will drop it in PM so that people do not injure. We do not have a showcase here, but an ordinary life.
          And then here already some are terribly angry with me for the truth and even accept for the paid Pindos agent.
          1. Galina
            Galina 4 February 2012 21: 32
            +6
            I support you.
          2. urzul
            urzul 5 February 2012 12: 01
            -1
            Maybe at least once answer what kind of city you have forgotten by everyone, otherwise often talk about it, how everything is destroyed. And they have never answered the question about its name
            1. Samsebenaum
              Samsebenaum 5 February 2012 19: 57
              +3
              Destroyed the village, military facilities, if you carefully read. And the city - Smolensk, is recognized as investment unattractive. Why - it is not clear. For all the years of rule, a couple were built - the three sports facilities and chain stores naturally. Now a couple of medical centers are being built. ... But this is not so true for 350 people. There are no industrial buildings, the city is not developing, the population is declining from year to year. There were a lot of military units, airfields - almost little remained. For the first time, the population of the region has become less than 000 million. I do not take into account point objects, because they do not affect the overall picture. There was Medvedev, I saw an emergency kindergarten, it’s good that I didn’t go inside, I left. All. What can I say, come on an excursion. Make sure. I was always proud of my city, it was one of the greenest and most beautiful cities of the USSR. It was.
              We were not even included in the "Golden Ring of Russia", although the history of the city is unique. Tourism passed by. It's a shame, of course. The second grade is not marriage, we live for now, we hope for something.
              Nearby is Belarusian Vitebsk (equivalent) - then I send you there. Feel the difference, as they say ...
              1. ab
                ab 6 February 2012 21: 36
                0
                The well-known right-wing politician Alfred Koch made his own forecast regarding the development of the tense political situation in Russia. In recent months, when protests increased in the country, Koch has repeatedly come out with an analysis, his current forecast is so far the most radical possible.

                According to Koch’s statements, which he shared via Facebook, the worst-case scenario for Prime Minister Vladimir Putin at the moment is to win the election in the absence of a previous credit of trust from the nation.

                According to Alfred Koch, Putin will inevitably need to carry out unpopular reforms - first of all, pension ones. The trend of declining popularity will increase. By the end of this year, he will lose the remnants of his attracted electorate and will remain only with nuclear (25 - 30%).

                "Throughout the next year, a wave of hatred towards him personally will grow. His real sins will be strongly supplemented by invented sins and rumors. The people will believe the most monstrous absurdities. After that, the most pragmatic part of his supporters (those who see for themselves some kind of positive perspective outside 2018) will begin to seek an alliance with the opposition and run away from Putin, "Koch prophesies.

                The politician believes that after this the future president will be "surrendered" by the judicial system and the press. Spontaneous processes will begin against corrupt officials from his entourage, initiated by competitors. "The accomplices will run to the opposition and carry the grandmother. The opposition, having got stronger financially, will start buying more air. The process will go to pieces," Koch continues. At this rate, he believes, by the end of 2013, criticism of Putin will turn into a commonplace and the national consensus will be “Putin is a thief”.


                Formally, the legitimate president, Alfred Koch believes, will in fact be deprived of all powers. Nobody will follow his orders, because they will be afraid of the opposition. "The federal government will be discredited. The image of an aging and helpless president will dominate the entire situation," Koch writes.

                He also believes that in such a situation President Putin will escalate and thereby unwittingly provoke a short but sharp conflict. And then - either a peaceful scenario ("Gorbachev in retirement") or a forceful scenario ("Gaddafi torn to pieces by the crowd"). True, Koch further writes that he himself does not believe in a peaceful scenario, since Gorbachev did not cling to power and did not steal, and in this case the character is "absolutely opposite."

                “It’s sad and hard to realize this. But it looks like we will have to go through all this in the next two years,” Koh concludes.

                Let us recall that Alfred Koch's forecast about Russia's difficult future in the near future echoes the recent interview of his ally Anatoly Chubais. The head of Rusnano, of course, did not use such harsh words, but nevertheless promised that large-scale and extremely painful changes in politics and economy await Russia.


                "To our great regret, we have an economic system, with difficulties, but developing over the past 10-15 years, accompanied by the degradation of the political system," Chubais said. "This degradation has come out today, and we will have to get rid of it in the next 5-7 years," he said. These years "are more likely to be like the dark, heavy, dramatic damned 90s," he warned.


                It should be noted that Anatoly Chubais, a few months before the first large-scale protests, foresaw its beginning. "We are entering a wave of colossal transformations. The root of these transformations is the emergence of a middle class in Russia," Chubais noted in October 2011, two months before the Duma elections, which catalyzed the process.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 6 February 2012 21: 52
                  0
                  Quote: ab
                  And then - either a peaceful scenario ("Gorbachev in retirement") or a forceful scenario ("Gaddafi torn to pieces by the crowd").

                  but would you all go to x ... along with your scripts
          3. Tatanka Yotanka
            Tatanka Yotanka 5 February 2012 12: 58
            0
            with what enthusiasm for revival, Sladkov broadcast on state channels, and now http://svpressa.ru/society/article/49768/
      2. Knowing
        Knowing 4 February 2012 16: 56
        +9
        by the way, this is Moscow and not some small town
        in the remaining cities, little has happened.

        Quote: Samsebenum
        This does not mean anything. It is even doubtful.
        This is Moscow? Then it’s clear ... Everything dies behind the golden ring.
        Can I put a photo of my city without embellishment?
        -----------
        ---Well said
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 17: 02
          +2
          Nevelsk: 4 years after the earthquake
          The new boiler house in the southern microdistrict of Nevelsk will fully provide heat to residents of the southern part of the city.
          The reconstructed water intake “Pridorozhnoe”; in 2011, new equipment was commissioned here.
          New Clinic
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 17: 09
            +1
            Irkutsk

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            1. Alexey Prikazchikov
              Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 17: 10
              +1
              [/ Center]
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              1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 17: 11
                +1
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                1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                  Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 17: 13
                  +3
                  [/ Center]
                  you know, this hour I can continue to upload photos of different cities, and trample you in go ..but, but I don’t need any idea, no one denies heaps of shit, just a lot has been done ha these years
                  1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                    Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 17: 20
                    +1
                    By the way, and esche I can write about economic and production indicators about the achievements of agriculture, and a lot about that, so you don’t have to make me angry, then go ... but eat
                  2. Samsebenaum
                    Samsebenaum 4 February 2012 17: 30
                    +9
                    Is it trampling? Yes, and not so easy to trample me ... Your examples, these are facts that I always admit. It’s just not so simple everywhere. With which you also agree. It just creates the illusion that everything is perfect.
                    Alexei, I asked no offense, but you break down ...
                    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                      Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 18: 13
                      +12
                      And I didn’t say that everything is perfect according to experts, the losses of the Russian Federation for the 90s are 1,5 times higher than after the Second World War, both in terms of population and industry and other garbage. But then we were a nation of conquerors and we were respected and feared. In the 980s we were simply despised. After the wows we had money, in the early 2000s we had only. What was done is a hygienic work, you just can’t do it all at once. And esche during the reforms and just a conclusion from the crisis, you can’t help but make mistakes, because only those who don’t make a mistake are not mistaken, do not forget how deeply the amers took root in the Russian Federation. And the fact that only in 2004 we took our bowels from the amers and forced them to pay, and that until 2005 there was a shooting of enemies of the state. And the fact that only after 2008 we began to be respected as a new center of power. I repeat the mistakes are always and everywhere even Visarionitch had them, you just need to go forward, the road will take the road, and right away nothing can happen to live well, you need to work a lot and for a long time on it here.
                      1. Knowing
                        Knowing 4 February 2012 18: 26
                        -1
                        You convinced me recourse
                      2. Alexssanderr
                        Alexssanderr 4 February 2012 18: 35
                        0
                        Yes, and little time has passed!
                      3. karbofos
                        karbofos 4 February 2012 19: 01
                        0
                        Alexei, it’s a pity that these common truths do not reach everyone
                      4. rennim
                        rennim 4 February 2012 22: 35
                        -2
                        Nonsense. We still do not respect. I work in a foreign company. They look at everyone as a cheap cattle. And whoever brings them money gives them a little fake smile. USA for 12 years left the GREAT DEPRESSION. We will come out ....? Now probably not. And about Vissarionych ... So in 12 years he spent the country from a plow to a nuclear bomb ... Putin for 12 years made nothing but promises .... Enough and empty for others (real patriots) will give way ....
                      5. 5 February 2012 01: 13
                        +1
                        Quote: rennim

                        Nonsense. We still do not respect. I work in a foreign company. They look at everyone as a cheap cattle. And whoever brings them money gives them a little fake smile. USA for 12 years left the GREAT DEPRESSION. We will come out ....? Now probably not. And about Vissarionych ... So in 12 years he spent the country from a plow to a nuclear bomb ... Putin for 12 years made nothing but promises .... Enough and empty for others (real patriots) will give way ....

                        fool

                        Yes, yes Amerika! You just forgot to mention that from the beginning of the great depression of 1929 until 1940 it was not visible at all, no one knew where to get out of it. But here, for the benefit of the amers, the Second World War happened, in which they made supplies of food and equipment for ... only for gold! Thanks to this, by the end of the war in the USA more than 70% of all the world's gold reserves had accumulated. And again, it was thanks to this fact that the Bretton Woods agreement was signed as a result of which the dollar became the only world currency supported by gold (the dollar replaced gold). and all other currencies were already supported by the dollar, i.e. had value only through the exchange rate to the dollar. All this allowed the United States to become the largest counterfeiter in human history (in 1973 they refused the Bretton Woods agreement and printed already unsecured pieces of paper).

                        About Stalin. What do you think 12 years from? Do you know that IW gained real power over the country only in 1929, when you first sent Trotsky to Alma Ata and then outside the USSR? Then, for 10 years, he burned the red moles with the hot iron. Stalin had full power only since 1939. Putin has been fighting the Family and agents of influence within Russia for less than 12 years. This time.

                        About material losses as a result of the collapse of the USSR and the 90s, Alexey Prikazchikov has already said. According to various estimates, they are 1,5-2 times more than for the entire Great Patriotic War. These are two

                        Everyone knows Stalin's methods (perhaps it was impossible then), but YOU personally, who reproach Putin for not using these methods of attracting labor, agree to go to Siberia to build new factories and roads, while living in barracks and be deprived of the most basic amenities? Or go to explore the Arctic shelf, leaving your warm apartment, comfortable car and the opportunity to meet in a comfortable environment with friends (I'm not talking about your family). Ask yourself: "Am I personally ready for this?" And if not, then there is nothing to bother here, otherwise those who want to rake in the heat with someone else's hands are always to hell. You'd better say thank you to Putin for being here and not there ...

                        And to explain about the lack of financial independence in our country, which by the way the USSR had under Stalin, was a very long time.
                      6. rennim
                        rennim 5 February 2012 10: 30
                        +3
                        I'm ready. Because I’m used to Spartan conditions. And I don’t have a car. And I work in the factory. And you only see that we are selling what we produce ... You don’t know how to create anything ... But I defended the Homeland in the Army So you personally served in the Army or your children?
                      7. 5 February 2012 16: 58
                        0
                        Quote: rennim

                        I'm ready. Because I’m used to Spartan conditions. And I don’t have a car. And I work in the factory. And you only see that we are selling what we produce ... You don’t know how to create anything ... But I defended the Homeland in the Army So you personally served in the Army or your children?

                        Spartan conditions are one thing, and life on the verge of survival is another thing: work for 12 hours, housing is a poorly heated hut. About food and disease, mowing thousands even nothing to say. No tears are needed, and we don’t have much population for such experiments.

                        I also have wink no car. And I also work at the factory as an engineer. But he didn’t serve in the army (a childhood invalid), and my sons haven’t served yet, they’re still small, but I really hope that they will go to serve.
                  3. urzul
                    urzul 5 February 2012 12: 07
                    0
                    In America, the state has come out of the crisis, and the millions of unemployed who have formed during the crisis have long felt the consequences.
                    And where are you from ??
                    .And who brings money to them they smile a little fake

                    This is their mentality, for them all who do not bring them profit are not people
                  4. rennim
                    rennim 6 February 2012 08: 43
                    +2
                    I myself am from Russia ... And father and mother. And both grandfathers were at the front ... They defended what they gave to the same foreigners ...
                  5. urzul
                    urzul 6 February 2012 09: 06
                    0
                    It is clear then everything is with you, you do not live in Russia, but you are familiar with the situation in the country from the "independent" media
          2. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 18: 26
            0
            Mlyn, I told Go .. but I do not deny it, and I know that we will disentangle this bucket for another 10 years.
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 5 February 2012 00: 45
              0
              At that pace, after 10 years, we will not be on the map ...
            2. rennim
              rennim 6 February 2012 08: 43
              +1
              With Putin and his "team" much earlier ...
        2. Samsebenaum
          Samsebenaum 4 February 2012 18: 27
          +8
          Here's another thing, I don’t need to threaten, I’m still young, and I’m not timid. Anger is also like a drum to me. As for feeding me shit - obviously over the edge. Where will we rest, Ivan the Terrible? In conclusion, I’ll say a clever idea - everyone share only what he has ...
          Peace be with you, Alexey!
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 18: 51
            0
            About shit, I’m not talking to you, the site is simply stupid.
        3. Alexssanderr
          Alexssanderr 4 February 2012 18: 35
          +4
          http://www.sdelanounas.ru/ вот здесь всё объективно!
          1. 5 February 2012 17: 06
            0
            Quote: Alexssanderr
            http://www.sdelanounas.ru/ вот здесь всё объективно!

            Here is a similar resource: http://www.moderniz.ucoz.ru/

            Here from there:


            We even have tomographs: http://www.moderniz.ucoz.ru/news/otechestvennye_tamografy_ot_npf_az/2012-01-21-1
            549
        4. urzul
          urzul 5 February 2012 12: 03
          0
          He gave you examples, visit Kazan to rest in Kazan.
          1. ole
            ole 5 February 2012 22: 42
            0
            I completely agree about Kazan, and even shuttle like another, completely different country, and the north and part of the center in the dermis
          2. urzul
            urzul 6 February 2012 09: 04
            -1
            They have a different mentality, even at pedestrian crossings you don’t think whether the driver will stop or not
  • esaul
    esaul 4 February 2012 18: 46
    +1
    Alexey Prikazchikov,
    Lesha, thanks for your selections - always out of place and always - in the bullseye! Plus, buddy! Regards, Esaul! good drinks
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 4 February 2012 18: 52
      -1
      Thank you drinks
  • Chukotka resident
    Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 22: 47
    +1
    Oh, FSBeshore Coast Guard boat for the Olympics.
  • esaul
    esaul 4 February 2012 18: 39
    +3
    Quote: Knowing
    in the remaining cities, little has happened.

    You are making a too presumptuous statement, Comrade Knower! I can say for Novosibirsk - changes - the sea! And only - with a plus sign! Do not drive a depressive wave and do not press on a tear. WANT to cry - cry! But, please - in McFaul's vest, and not here on the site! And the fact that you pull pictures from the Internet is beyond doubt! This good is a negative character, both here and "there", only on this site you can adjust. You and henchmen will instantly find in the person of "Chukchi", AB and other eccentrics! Now I watched reports "from the scene". The report from Bolot - "impressed" - the most! The scum who steal, being on state posts, removed from the trough and wandering for salary to the Yusov embassy, ​​speaks of their inescapable concern for the country, for the Russian people ...! How the thirst for power and profit has poisoned their minds ... They must not be allowed to come to power at a cannon shot! And this overt, obvious, hostile activity under our windows is not permissible! Putin just needs to put things in order in the country having come to the First post - there is very little time! Pindosia - there is Vabank, not choosing funds! Putin is our President!
    1. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 22: 40
      +3
      He put things in order for 12 years. Enough. Corruption has exceeded all unimaginable proportions. And in the government there are people who do not have a specialized education ... It is clear why he needs the presidency, they will be excommunicated from the gas pipe. And about his patriotism, his work in the KGB do not remember ...
  • 5 February 2012 00: 48
    +2
    Quote: Knowing
    by the way, this is Moscow and not some small town
    in the remaining cities, little has happened.

    Oh well, knowing. My city, Sterlitamak, only becomes more beautiful.
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 4 February 2012 20: 21
    +2
    Quote: Samsebenum
    Behind the golden ring, everything is dying.


    Near my city, the Belgorod region, there are roads and agriculture and industry, we have the opposite, although the country is one, at one time they believed the candidate was a communist, however he is now United Russia
    1. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 4 February 2012 21: 06
      +6
      Vadivak
      Thanks, Vadivak, for your understanding. You, apparently, like me, were not lucky with the place of residence.
      So I’m talking about where it’s empty, where it’s thick. Like a quilt.
      Everything now rests on the money and the loyalty of the Kremlin. Be at least thrice communist or non-partisan.
      Imagine this in a large family - some children have chocolate and new clothes, while others do not give bread. They also call them defective. What would we say about such parents?
      For an example of prosperity, you can still bring the Kaluga region. How many car assembly plants are there? Not too much - is it? But you can’t drive through Pskov without tears. Horror!
      Take Smolensk for example. Thank God, though the roads (oh, miracle!) To the anniversary began to do normal. But ... you will go by train, not one !!! you will not see the sown field. Everything was overgrown with a bogeyman (local word). Out of 2000 farms, only 80 remain. As soon as you cross the border with Belarus, you end up in a completely different world. Story.
      Oryol, Bryansk - empty. Bushes, grass, forests and ... boredom. There are only a few islands where more or less. And this is the western and southwestern directions. Not into darkness - roads lead cockroach. To Europe.
      I have a question. In depressed regions, what do lepers live? Is that quarantine there? Or do we need a devastating earthquake to pay attention? Who doubts, please make a motor rally.
      1. common man
        common man 4 February 2012 22: 25
        +1
        Samsebenaum, Imagine this in a large family - some children have chocolate and new clothes, while others do not give bread. They also call them defective. What would we say about such parents?
        So after all, there are different children. One is an excellent pupil, the other is an assistant to parents since childhood, and the third does not get out of the children's room of the police.
        Mostly in leper areas, leper leaders.
        1. Samsebenaum
          Samsebenaum 5 February 2012 00: 45
          +2
          common man
          Well this is an allegory. We are neither better nor worse than others. Why are we like this?
          Do the executives speak? The chief is the governor. Who appointed the leper?
          In whose power is the change of leader now? President, right? So our governor bends to the ground, and for this Moscow does not touch him.
          Here is the dark side of the truth that everyone sees, spits, resents.
          And we are pawns, we can be ignored.
      2. ole
        ole 4 February 2012 23: 28
        +6
        The Vologda Oblast is a non-depressive region, but agriculture is breathing 50 percent, villages are dying, regional roads apart from the center, apart from M7, are falling apart, energy prices are high, etc., also Kirovskaya Arkhara, Kostroma, Ivanovskaya
        1. dvina
          dvina 5 February 2012 01: 13
          +1
          Come on? And why then did the World retail chain open stores in this depresnyaki and what kind of truck do I carry a load of household appliances into this depressnya every week? .... they probably give. In Velsk, Oktyabrsky, Konosha, Yemetsk, Onega and Sokol ... And why are these depressed peasant farmers delivering their milk to Arkhangelsk in the new Mana, and I have been dissecting it for 20 years on Volvo?
          What roads are we talking about? From Vologda to Medvezhyegorsk? To Kargopol and further to Plesetsk? From Vologda to Veliky Ustyug and Kotlas? What roads are you talking about?
          Where are you going ... in what farts? There you really need roads ...? I’ve already traveled all over the left bank of the Arkhangelsk region and all directions of the Vologda .. I can’t remember where the roads became worse than 90s ...
          1. ole
            ole 5 February 2012 10: 16
            +2
            Dvinahi land, Agriculture - Shishov's khoz and Vazhskoye seems the others are bending, the poultry factory of brothers from St. Petersburg is all. Mans walks from the Arkhangelsk dairy. Roads Uren-Sharya-Kotlas, Kotlas - Bereznyak, Nyuksenitsa - October, Vologda-Totma-V-Ustyug, but it seems like a new governor said that they will fuck everyone if the roads are not done, we'll see.
            1. ole
              ole 5 February 2012 10: 40
              +1
              The whole north-west lives on by cutting the forest. And about the road Kotlas- Syktyvkar forgot and Vologda- Peter
              1. dvina
                dvina 5 February 2012 11: 57
                +2
                Hi Hi. Well, do not be so categorical ... Not all. there are meat and dairy farms. In Vologda, meat processing and milk processing with what works? From the air?
                In general, the situation is improving. You can argue about the pace, but not about the direction ...
            2. ole
              ole 5 February 2012 11: 05
              +1
              And in the 90s, of course, everything was much worse and I can’t argue, they paid wages with flour, pasta, butter, baked bread so that they could not be bought at the store.
            3. dvina
              dvina 5 February 2012 11: 32
              0
              Nichrome you found the road .... You still asphalt forest trails smile
              Of all the above, only Kotlas - Dv. Bereznik did not touch the shovel of the builder for all 10 years.
              Man Velsky .. The old Vologda poultry farm is working and modernizing .... Listening I can list for a long time. I know this because I’m engaged in transportation. In general, the situation is steadily improving. You can argue about the pace, but not the direction.
              1. ole
                ole 5 February 2012 13: 43
                +2
                Well, I’ll argue that anyway everyone will be of their own opinion, but I will give some simple examples. In 2010, all egg-laying poultry farms belonged to the VTsP and went bankrupt together, and the government of the Vologda Oblast had to redeem them, now they can privatize state property again. Someone argues that farms around regional centers live and make ends meet. But there is a steady reduction in the number of cattle. And in the northwestern region no one is engaged in fattening animal husbandry (unprofitable). Where did the meat come from in meat processing, Vologda, three large Vologda meat processing plants, MIMP, Agromyasoprom, and a bunch of small semi-finished products that produce meat? In Vologda I don’t remember the streets near 1 regional there is a railway. deadlocks there refrigerated warehouses are always clogged with an imported block, plus in Yaroslavl at the former institute a chemical industrial warehouse is clogged with soy and food flavorings, that's what we eat. Milk processing for a long time already everyone is sitting on milk powder (Belarus, Holland, Belgium), I do not say that all dairy products are unnatural, but 20% are definitely there. I especially remember: There are barrels with pig intestines (natural) 2000pcs in a barrel, barrels The head of the warehouse jokes that there are not so many pigs in China, probably the Chinese are selling their guts.
  • common man
    common man 4 February 2012 22: 14
    0
    I do not agree. In recent years (after the 2000s), asphalt began to be repaired in the city, and garbage from the streets is cleaned and disposed of daily. Berezniki Perm Territory. Life is getting better.
  • ole
    ole 4 February 2012 23: 19
    +2
    One hundred percent agree with you that it’s especially insulting that small towns and villages are dying, that's where the population is decreasing. Example city in 2001 68 thousand in 2011 58 thousand
    1. ole
      ole 4 February 2012 23: 54
      0
      Plus, rural settlements are optimized with reduced funding, schools are being optimized, kindergartens are slowly starting to move even from where there is work, because everyone wants children to go to kindergarten and school. Of course, they buy buses at schools, create hostels, etc. but imagine that you only see your child on Sunday.
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 5 February 2012 00: 57
        +2
        This is a control shot in the head of the institution of the family.
        That's it, kids are gone ... families are gone. Soon come on all of us.
        This is one of the most serious crimes against your people.
        Lord, give at least a bit of reason to these idiots !!!
        The child SHOULD live, grow, be brought up by mom and dad, and not by strangers aunts !!!
        All. For me, it was the last nail in the coffin of the current government.
        I do not accept excuses and ignore !!!
  • Knowing
    Knowing 4 February 2012 16: 39
    0
    it was this photo that made me more or less normal about Putin and Medvedev. cool comparison
    but you look at the ratings
    almost everywhere things got worse we everywhere dropped a few points or stayed in the same place
    1. esaul
      esaul 4 February 2012 18: 56
      -3
      Quote: Knowing
      you look ratings

      Are you, my dear, forming your own ideas about the status of ratings? Then, excuse me, one can doubt very much that you really know something! You, also ava - with a self-esteem! Strange - the comp is at hand. Those who wish can form their opinions not only by ratings and their personal observations! Still, which is quite probable - you simply are still young, you don’t know what happened to the country 20 years ago and there is nothing to compare with you! So you Lyosha Prikazchikova (the same youth, by the way!) - listen, since you yourself are too lazy to rummage through the internet.
      1. alexander hjcnjd
        alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 19: 24
        +15
        But I don’t have to fumble anywhere, I went through a pedagogy and I know the situation in education, and since this is the basis of everything, I can say that if there are no reforms, it will be a disaster. And something doesn’t seem to me that Fursenko, Vova will not be removed from her post. And therefore, those who support Putin put their own collar on the neck of their children with their own hands, because people without education and logical thinking are very easy to manage.
        1. NovoSibirets
          NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 19: 33
          +8
          Yes, education, if you do not tell me, failed. EGE is something! However, it seems to me that there will be changes on this front. Will be.
          1. alexander hjcnjd
            alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 19: 54
            +8
            You’re wrong Putin once said that the cabinet will not be changed. So Fursenko will remain. And as for the Unified State Exam, understand, there is no way you can write an Unified State Exam in physics, mathematics, chemistry. In principle, in my opinion, the Unified State Exam is an excellent control system. the problem is not in the test system, but in the fact that the level of knowledge in physics, mathematics, chemistry is appallingly declining. In many high schools, these subjects have become optional. A teacher of the highest category receives a little more than 8 thousand a month, and the state spends 6300r on the maintenance of one prisoner per month.
            1. NovoSibirets
              NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 20: 03
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
              You are wrong Putin once said that the cabinet will not change.

              I have other information. If not difficult, throw a link here.

              Basically I will not argue, the topic is not close to me. I am convinced of one thing - there can be no exam in literature, history, and similar subjects, where a person shows not only knowledge, but also an understanding of processes, analyzes them, draws his conclusions, forms his own opinion, defends it.
              1. alexander hjcnjd
                alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 20: 29
                +4
                Let's hope that you are right, and Fursenko will be removed. I don’t remember where I read about the link.
              2. esaul
                esaul 4 February 2012 20: 37
                -2
                Quote: NovoSibirets
                Basically I will not argue, the topic is not close to me. I am convinced of one thing - there can be no exam in literature, history, and similar subjects, where a person shows not only knowledge, but also an understanding of processes, analyzes them, draws his conclusions, forms his own opinion, defends it.

                You are absolutely right, "colleague" - the approach to educational disciplines should be very competently and sensitively differentiated! The topic of education is quite close to me, the level of education, due to the hasty unification of the USE, has really decreased and this at the top (with Putin's vision ...) could not help but notice! Confirmation of this is the meeting of VVP with teachers at the end of last year. The concern of the pedagogical community has probably been heard and personnel changes in the hierarchy of the Ministry of Education are quite likely! And about underestimating the work of teachers - the song is not new and, not always objectively, sung! Believe me, I know what I am saying and, to illustrate this statement, I will allow myself to quote your own words that a talented child will not remain unnoticed. The same is true for the assessment of teacher performance. Yes, there is still a long way to go to the desired ideals in this matter, but positive shifts are also observed here - "He who works, he eats!" yesSincerely, Esaul.
                1. NovoSibirets
                  NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 20: 54
                  +6
                  Why, I haven’t seen the sweet-eating teachers, Esaul. I saw those driven by "hours" to raise the salary, but forgive me I didn’t see those that are right in chocolate, maybe in higher education, practicing teachers, professionals in their field ... But I didn’t see at school, alas.
                  About the fact that the problem is not new, I know that in the USSR I graduated from school, there were no booming teachers in those days. Although they probably didn’t feel so humiliated, there wasn’t such a huge gap between social groups, they were all about equal. And now, teachers are probably and ashamed to admit where they work ... However, I repeat, here I am not a pro, I judge at the household level.
              3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 4 February 2012 22: 30
                0
                and in the exact sciences it is sometimes important how the person went to the answer and not the answer itself
                1. NovoSibirets
                  NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 22: 50
                  +1
                  Yes, probably .., and Grigory Yakovlevich Perelman is proof of this.
              4. ole
                ole 4 February 2012 23: 29
                +2
                Of us just make cattle
            2. rennim
              rennim 4 February 2012 22: 48
              +2
              That's for sure. There are more expenses on the ZEka. So it’s clear that with Putin’s arrival, nothing will change for the better. Therefore, they in the Kremlin came up with an imaginary threat of a collapse of the country and the threat of the Orange Revolution. This is all the crushing of the media controlled by the Kremlin. Which once again speaks of the lack of freedom ...
              1. 5 February 2012 19: 07
                0
                Quote: rennim
                Therefore, they in the Kremlin came up with an imaginary threat of the collapse of the country and the threat of the Orange Revolution.

                History must be taught.
            3. 5 February 2012 18: 56
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
              You are wrong Putin once said that the cabinet will not change.

              Yes, how much can you! They will change the office, they will, calm down only.

              http://news.yandex.ru/yandsearch?cl4url=www.kommersant.ru%2Fdoc-y%2F1857331
        2. rennim
          rennim 4 February 2012 22: 42
          +2
          That's right. The population is degrading ... Vova, you don’t have to be president ...
    2. Patriot of Russia
      Patriot of Russia 4 February 2012 21: 14
      +2
      do not pay attention, apparently some pensioners are sitting here, they do not tear themselves away from the monitor. I look everywhere the same "generals" "comment". but we still have to work, my friend smile
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 4 February 2012 22: 31
        -1
        not overworked ?!
        who do you work with?
    3. HAUSER
      HAUSER 4 February 2012 23: 28
      +6
      March 1991. On the eve of the 1991 presidential election in the RSFSR. On TV they show in the ass drunk Yeltsin speaking at some American university with a lecture. Who are you going to vote for? For this drunk? People change your mind! No, this is a great democrat and liberal; he goes to work on a trolleybus. Have chosen.
      August 1991. The GKChP ordered the arrest of the great democrat and the dissolution of the Supreme Council of the RSFSR. People defend parliament and the great democrat,
      he will build capitalism for you without bursts, shortages, censorship, presumptuous nomenclature. And you will be happy. The mood was the same as now with people from Bolotnaya Square, everyone wanted a change, it seemed that it was impossible to live on like that. Protected.
      Then came the 90s. There were no queues, deficits, censorship. Instead, the collapse of the USSR and then Russia began, galloping inflation, unemployment, impoverishment and degradation of the people, the collapse of the army and navy, medicine, education, lawlessness of criminal groups, predatory privatization. The great democrat and his entourage did not want to build a bright capitalistic future for us. They wanted to sell the camp along with its people, to sell it in parts and not expensive. This is where everyone realized that we were simply na-ali. Bred as suckers. As people are being bred from Bolotnaya Square. I do not think that everyone who was there wished evil for Russia. Many bought the beautiful words that are crushed by the leaders of the so-called opposition. People do not believe it - na-ut. Passed, we know.
      The opposition, if it comes to power, will act exactly as Yeltsin did, the country will roll back decades, and after many years someone will have to start all over again.
      I am not a special supporter of the current government and the current president. I don’t like much in our society and would like the process of the revival of Russia to go faster. But the main thing is that he is walking, and we are not slipping into the abyss as during the great democrat (it will be remembered not for sleep).
  • aksakal
    aksakal 4 February 2012 21: 16
    -1
    Prikazchikov, plus, well done!
    Photofacts speak for themselves!
  • Chukotka resident
    Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 23: 58
    0
    The author of the verse

    Poem:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omudS4fzlB0
  • Gurza
    Gurza 4 February 2012 16: 15
    +17
    Sochi The meeting "for" fair "elections", I personally saw with my own eyes, gathered 36-50 people. The rest went shopping and enjoyed the +10 weather and the sun.
    I stood for a while, listened, a woman spoke, I will not convey her words literally, but I will describe the essence: -When I heard Navalny's slogan "We will not forget, we will not forgive" I realized that I needed to come here today and I brought all my friends and I will continue to come and demand honest elections. I witnessed how a 5-year-old girl listened to Navalny and repeated these words after him, even children understand how right he is ... (c)
    Then I left, my ears could not stand it.
    Personally, I decided I’ll go vote for Putin, bad, good ... I have the right to my civil position!
    1. sedoj
      sedoj 4 February 2012 20: 11
      +2
      Sochi power offended? Nonsense.
      1. Gurza
        Gurza 4 February 2012 20: 45
        0
        ))))) we like everything is fine))) So everyday difficulties.
        And amendment, Sochi, without declensions!
        1. sedoj
          sedoj 8 February 2012 23: 44
          +1
          So I did not want to persuade - it turned out by itself.
      2. NovoSibirets
        NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 21: 13
        +5
        By the way, offended! Oh, how offended! Especially Adler district! )) Damned just GDP!
        Well .., GyurZa will understand what I mean. )))
    2. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 22: 50
      0
      I have no doubt that you also voted for Yeltsin in the 96th .... After such losses in Chechnya.
    3. sedoj
      sedoj 7 February 2012 22: 20
      +1
      GurZa:
      I became a witness as a 5-year-old girl listened to Navalny and repeated these words after him, even the children understand how right he is .... (c)

      Well, if everything is clear with the mind of a five-year-old girl, then really - everything is clear. Tady - OH!
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 February 2012 23: 24
      -1
      Quote: GurZa
      When I heard Navalny's slogan "We will not forget, we will not forgive", I realized that I had to come here today and I brought all my friends and will continue to come and demand fair elections. I witnessed how a 5-year-old girl listened to Navalny and repeated these words after him, even children understand how right he is ... (c)

      I wonder if she will hear a five-year-old girl send her on or call her a prostitute because she heard these words from adults, will she have the same reaction?
  • wown
    wown 4 February 2012 16: 17
    +2
    hamsters cover)
  • Rashid
    Rashid 4 February 2012 16: 19
    +3
    Just this morning I thought that covering up this scummy "Echo of Moscow" could be done with one stroke of AB's pen. Miller - to stop funding it. And now I see that even slogans have appeared on this topic. There is hope.
    1. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 4 February 2012 16: 54
      +5
      e noet, keep each other close and the enemy even closer
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 4 February 2012 21: 19
        -2
        Kyrgyz, aptly!
        That's what you need to do - keep the enemy closer wink
  • lastilin
    lastilin 4 February 2012 16: 19
    +3
    Acne, acne ololo, orange go through the forest, home to America.
  • older
    older 4 February 2012 16: 19
    .
    I’m not surprised that there will always be more for PUTIN, who will we score with? Even somewhere on the forum you minus it, anyway, plus pops up ... +. :) maybe I have one so the computer works, Windows error under Putin ??? They crushed and will crush those against n.power
  • KuigoroZHIK
    KuigoroZHIK 4 February 2012 16: 21
    +3
    look, lads - we are not alone. Not only our eyes are open. People who stand behind bulk and others like him see.
    Particularly pleased with the lines in the article:
    "The opposition rally also took place on Sakharov Avenue. It was organized by businessman Konstantin Borov and the leader of the unregistered Democratic Union party Valeria Novodvorskaya. According to the organizers, up to 30 thousand participants were supposed to gather on Sakharov Avenue, but several dozen people came."


    :D
  • Alex-z84
    Alex-z84 4 February 2012 16: 22
    +4
    I will vote for Putin !! Altars are not present at the moment, the more the country really began to lift from their knees.
    1. Knowing
      Knowing 4 February 2012 16: 59
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      1. nycsson
        nycsson 5 February 2012 00: 42
        -1
        I agree ...
    2. alexander hjcnjd
      alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 18: 42
      -3
      in which he kept the country for 12 years.
    3. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 22: 52
      +2
      I wonder in what areas she gets up from her knees. Oh yes ... According to the growth of managers ...
      1. 5 February 2012 19: 16
        -1
        Quote: rennim

        I wonder in what areas she gets up from her knees. Oh yes ... According to the growth of managers ...

        http://vvv-ig.livejournal.com/46000.html
        http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/exclusive/view/64362/
        http://russia.tv/video.html?tvpreg_id=155440&vid=160001&mid=14&d=0&p=1

        You can also watch the doc movie: "Cold Politics"
  • fellow misha
    fellow misha 4 February 2012 16: 26
    +11
    Novodvorskaya ridiculed, declared a rally for 30 thousand people and 150 people came, the fate of the current revolutionaries will be the same.
    1. Shuriken
      Shuriken 4 February 2012 16: 54
      +4
      It is likely that such a factor as the fact that it is disgusting to look at the Toad was at work. She stood, s-ka, in an orange YUSHCHENKO-TAK! Scarf, how does the earth wear such? ...
    2. NovoSibirets
      NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 17: 19
      +14
      Quote: comrade Misha
      Novodvorskaya made fun, said a rally for 30 thousand people and 150 people came


      She’s talking about it, comrade Misha! )))

      1. esaul
        esaul 4 February 2012 19: 00
        +1
        NovoSibirets,
        Yes, fellow countryman, the fool is crying for her - definitely! Circus!
        1. NovoSibirets
          NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 19: 13
          0
          Yes, I’m actually a joker, Yesaul! As far as I know, this is Photoshop! But for some reason it’s not surprising! ))))))))))))))))
          1. esaul
            esaul 4 February 2012 19: 21
            0
            NovoSibirets,
            Thank you, have fun, fellow countryman! good fellow
            1. NovoSibirets
              NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 20: 21
              +3
              Please Yesal! It’s already ridiculous for all this circus to be funny! Hurry, these elections would be held already.
        2. scrack
          scrack 4 February 2012 20: 02
          0
          She was already there, apparently, did not heal to the end
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 February 2012 22: 33
          +1
          probably did not heal in due time wink
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 5 February 2012 00: 40
        +2
        Here - it’s for sure orange and we don’t need such !!!
    3. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 22: 54
      +1
      here is the answer to all about the orange threat. YES NO HER !!!!! These are all inventions of the political technologists of KREML ..
      1. NovoSibirets
        NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 23: 06
        -1
        ABOUT! Handsomely! You advice, quickly call Nemtsov’s headquarters, he will give McFaul, there is a chance to earn. I share! ;)

        The idea is new and beautiful! The fact of the defeat of the Orangemen in Russia is evidence of the initial absence of an orange threat! Strong.
        And if you still make fantasies, then you can even reach a sensational conclusion!
        Imagine! "Morning. Snow-covered Moscow. And boys, boys, boys distributing newspapers! And everyone screams! Shouting! Sensation! Orange - an invention of Kremlin political strategists! Orange - an invention of Kremlin political strategists! Orange - Surkov propaganda"
        Ah ha ha! So, do not blur the points! I have long arms! )))
        1. rennim
          rennim 6 February 2012 08: 53
          0
          I’m actually for Russia. And the Nemtsovs with a similar fraternity for which you once voted for the spirit can not stand. PATRIOT I! And I will vote for Zyuganov. More precisely, for the Communist Party ...
      2. 5 February 2012 19: 22
        0
        Quote: rennim
        here is the answer to all about the orange threat. YES NO HER !!!!! These are all inventions of the political technologists of KREML ..

        Everything is already, you are set on fire. Now scream, do not scream, and not a shit comes out.

        http://lj.rossia.org/users/pharaom/41630.html
        http://vvv-ig.livejournal.com/69962.html
        http://eot-su.livejournal.com/212069.html

        yes much more
  • sanyarusian
    sanyarusian 4 February 2012 16: 28
    -1
    Well done. Putin is our president. I can’t wait until March 4.
    1. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 22: 56
      -1
      Of course YOUR !!! But not ours .... Enough of this country shame
      1. 5 February 2012 19: 24
        0
        Quote: rennim
        Of course YOUR !!! But not ours .... Enough of this country shame

        It is ours. And your shame is really only beginning. Now your Susan Rice is almost crying in the UN Security Council.
        1. rennim
          rennim 6 February 2012 08: 57
          0
          She's not mine. I can’t stand this foreign shusher because I love Russia. My grandfathers and great-grandfathers defended her. And do not think that there are only two forces, Putin and the Orange. This is amateurishness ... There are also red ones .... And they are definitely for RUSSIA. And then the mazgi are rinsed. If Tipo is not for Putin for Americans. Kindergarten...
  • Slayer
    Slayer 4 February 2012 16: 30
    +6
    ahah, well, it's okay for communists to call all the shares "orange", because the Communists are happy with all the shares, and at best a couple of thousand go to the new ones there and the German ones)) Set off our media and here they presented everything as they should))
  • figwam
    figwam 4 February 2012 16: 35
    +6
    Probably McCain and Hilary were disappointed, apparently they will send more money for the orange!
    1. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 22: 57
      -3
      They will send them to the Kremlin ... after their victory in March ... Why such a naive
  • NORTH
    NORTH 4 February 2012 16: 45
    +2
    Yes, you can’t buy us green candy wrappers !!! Caps podpindosnikov throw !!!
  • Mujahiddin777
    Mujahiddin777 4 February 2012 16: 47
    +12
    We must pay tribute to this person, i.e. Putin V.V. He literally pulled Russia out of shit after Yeltsin ... And people still have the conscience to go out and oppose him ... request
    1. alexander hjcnjd
      alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 18: 45
      -7
      From where you pulled out on demographics and education look. How else do people have enough stupidity to speak for him.
      1. Mujahiddin777
        Mujahiddin777 4 February 2012 21: 23
        +1
        Ungrateful! If you don’t like it, go to America and live there !!!
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 5 February 2012 00: 38
          -2
          And for what to thank, write more specifically, and we will think ...
          1. 5 February 2012 19: 29
            0
            Quote: nycsson
            And for what to thank, write more specifically, and we will think ..


            http://vvv-ig.livejournal.com/46000.html
            http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/exclusive/view/64362/
            http://russia.tv/video.html?tvpreg_id=155440&vid=160001&mid=14&d=0&p=1
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 4 February 2012 22: 34
        +2
        and in numbers you can express your discontent ?!
    2. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 22: 59
      -2
      From shit to new shit ... It definitely didn’t get any better ... For all the articles and ratings in full ass ...
  • sinandju
    sinandju 4 February 2012 16: 57
    -5
    I don’t like the West and the Pindos, and the Germans with the Novodvorskie all the more, but in this particular case, the people simply bred like a sucker. That is why, specifically on the same day, with similar motives, pro-Putin rallies were scheduled. Putin well done, not in vain the former Chekist operative. He simply took the civil impulse of ordinary people, who were outraged by the shamelessness of the edros, and therefore Putin, and elegantly stood at the head of the indignant, against the shamelessness of the authorities, holding dishonest elections. 19th century. The king-priest is not to blame, it is only some boyars who are atrocious. Thanks to the 90th years, the level of education in people has slightly decreased. Logically thinking is already difficult for many.
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 4 February 2012 17: 24
      +2
      I agree 100%! And how they rub on our ears: "Well, what has Levitin to do with it? Did he drown the ship, dropped the plane ...?" And what about Nurgaliev? He was not the one who shot the visitors in the supermarket! "And who, is responsible for the current system in which this became possible? , does not fit in any way ...
      1. NovoSibirets
        NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 17: 58
        +13
        Listen RibwortI'm not a fan of Putin either.
        I have a lot of questions for him! And I have my tooth on him. He, the parasite is cunning, has a lot of flaws, for my taste. It's true. I understand that the lack of alternative to Putin is his merit in the first place, and this is another stone in his garden from me, as a simple citizen of the federation.

        But I also understand that I don’t understand many of the processes taking place in power, society, clan struggle, politics, economics, and other things that the president needs to swim in. It is difficult for me to make an adequate idea on the question of whether he could do more for the country than he did. I can only guess what I could. But only that.

        For myself, I acted simply so as not to be a victim of manipulation of consciousness, from one side or the other, I asked myself: "Compared to the 90s (of which we all drank enough), is there any progress in the country?" And he answered himself to him. He asked: "The forces that today seek to overthrow Putin - are they constructive for my country? Are they seeking power for the sake of its prosperity or their own? Are they independent?" And he answered himself to him. He asked: "From the fork of events, what is the most destructive for my country - Putin's coming to power, or his opponents of all stripes today"? And he answered himself to him.
        The dry residue led me personally to the conclusion - I have to vote for him. For my part, this will be a certain last tranche of trust for him. And I’m absolutely sure that if any other really patriotic force, the force led the anti-Putin movement, I would support it. But for this it must be a minimum pro-Russian, and precisely by forceand not semolina, such as Zyuganov.
        Here is such a "alas" ...
        1. alexander hjcnjd
          alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 18: 53
          -1
          Why didn’t you think about education and demography?
          1. esaul
            esaul 4 February 2012 19: 08
            +2
            alexander hjcnjd,
            Link to the original
            In Russia, 143 million!
            Zones
            Hurray, comrades, the resident population of Russia on 1 of January of this year exceeded the mark of 143 million! Moreover, the population in 6 from 8 federal districts has grown, while the Volga and the Far East are lagging behind. Siberia is already symbolic, but growing.

            Although, of course, there is still room for improvement. In the Central Federal District, growth was provided only by the Moscow region and Moscow, however, a positive trend is evident. Regions hinder the process of population decline, it is quite possible to reach the positive dynamics of the demography of the native Russian regions in 2013-2014.

            The data is still preliminary, and this is a result of migration. But the natural population decline this year, relative to the past, is likely to decline again again.

            By the way, migrants are not those who simply arrived temporarily, but those who came to permanent residence, and not all Tajiks are among them, and almost half are Russians (including Ukrainians and Belarusians) and other indigenous peoples of Russia.

            Rosstat table: http://www.gks.ru/free_do...tion/demo/PrPopul2012.xls

            Have fun at your leisure and don’t shake your tongue about what you don’t know!
            1. alexander hjcnjd
              alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 19: 35
              +1
              Quote: esaul
              In the Central Federal District, growth was provided only by the Moscow region and Moscow, however, there is a positive trend
              - when a huge number of people seek to go there.
              Quote: esaul
              not those who simply arrived temporarily, but those who came to permanent residence, and not all Tajiks are among them, and almost half are Russians (including Ukrainians and Belarusians) and other indigenous peoples of Russia
              - for example, Caucasians. Our statistics are growing due to the Caucasus
              Quote: esaul
              lagging behind while the Volga and the Far East. Siberia is already symbolic, but growing.
              "How can this be understood symbolically? And you don’t think that against the background of a huge collapse, small outbreaks of childbirth are presented as a huge achievement? And why did you keep silent modestly about education?"
          2. NovoSibirets
            NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 19: 24
            +3
            Yes, I thought about everything, Alexander Rostov! Education is really in a fever! But for now, thank God. A smart child will make his way. And demography is not only a Russian, civilizational problem. Old Europe is facing exactly the same crisis. After the war, the old people beat, life was hellish in union, and the children were born .. In my humble opinion, the white man went wild everywhere, became fat ... He lives for himself, became smart. You’ll have to pay the bills. Asians and Muslims will be billed.
            Well, where is it me? Oh yes. So, everything is relative! This is the general line of my thoughts. This evil will come to power, or God forbid, a revolution breaks out - all, drain the water. We will receive education in the trenches, in the same place we will raise the demographic level, who will be very lucky ... IMHO of course.
            1. alexander hjcnjd
              alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 20: 05
              0
              Quote: NovoSibirets
              Clever child will make his way
              all the children are about the same, it all depends on the pedagogy and on the time, effort, resources spent on the child.
              Quote: NovoSibirets
              But it still exists, thank God
              - God has nothing to do with it, thank Fursenko and Putin for a couple, and indeed while there is. we must do our best to create a counterbalance in the form of Zu and the Communists. I am not saying that they are better, but one party cannot be in power because it will get too hot.
              Quote: NovoSibirets
              God forbid, a revolution breaks out - all, drain the water. We will receive education in the trenches, there we will also raise the demographic level, who will be very lucky ...
              - then when only one party in power will certainly happen, so I will vote for Zyuganov, for the sake of counterbalance, because the feeder is limited.
              1. NovoSibirets
                NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 20: 13
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
                therefore, I will vote for Zyuganov, for the sake of counterbalance, because the feeder is limited.

                Your sacred right. I have already expressed my position on the Communist Party and its "leader" on this thread. Under some of the circumstances I mentioned above, I would have done the same.
              2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 4 February 2012 22: 38
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
                all the children are about the same, it all depends on the pedagogy and on the time, effort, resources spent on the child.

                but this is definitely garbage, and it’s not necessary that they are all the same, though for some reason one writes 9 shaft and the other is a black square, one can multiply five orders of magnitude in the mind, and another blows over 7x8
          3. rennim
            rennim 4 February 2012 23: 03
            -1
            alexander hjcnjd You seem to me the most sensible person of all those present here. RESPECT !!!
        2. Galina
          Galina 4 February 2012 21: 51
          0
          I support you. Well formulated that many probably feel.
        3. nycsson
          nycsson 5 February 2012 00: 36
          0
          Unfortunately, the monopoly of power has not only led you to such reflections! The vicious circle turns out, not a fan of Putin, but I’ll go vote for him ... Ah, well done, you need to give them their due ...
      2. dimaas
        dimaas 4 February 2012 19: 51
        +3
        Putin is a Chekist to the core. He perfectly mastered the Stalinist method of manipulating people. Most of all you can rely on the person on whom you have the incriminating evidence and who because of this completely depends on you. This is precisely the reason for the longevity of Serdyukov, Nurgaliev, Chaika and the like. That is why we will never see that Putin has placed next to him a really strong, independent politician in his judgments. Zhukov will never be in the ministers of defense under Putin.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 February 2012 22: 39
          +2
          Quote: dimaas
          Putin is a Chekist to the core

          I’m wondering what’s wrong with the fact that the President used to be an intelligence officer? !!!
      3. nycsson
        nycsson 5 February 2012 00: 37
        +1
        That's for sure...
    2. alexander hjcnjd
      alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 18: 52
      -2
      You are right. In the box of some "pro-Putin" they show, and for some reason I do not believe in the assessments of the Central Internal Affairs Directorate about the number of protesters. We had to send a change of plumbers and electricians from the regional hospital for Putin, the order was yesterday. They were sent today or not yet. I do not know.
      1. esaul
        esaul 4 February 2012 19: 11
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
        You are right. They show some "pro-Putin" in the box, and for some reason I cannot believe in the assessments of the police department about the number of protesters

        Personally, it seemed to me - on the contrary! I was tired of these swamp frogs with my croaking, and I was indignant that this was too much, and carried this at the expense of the excessive pliability of the authorities ahead of the elections! what
        1. alexander hjcnjd
          alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 19: 41
          +2
          Oh yes, how could I forget about this wonderful propaganda of discrimination against the entire movement against Putin. When there are people in the swamp booed for example, Nemtsov, Sobchak, with all their might, sought to present leaders and the face of the opposition.
      2. dimaas
        dimaas 4 February 2012 19: 59
        -1
        Pay attention to the organization of the rally on the bow, which comes through from almost every picture from the Interfax report http://www.interfax.ru/photo.asp?id=388
        If someone says that these lines of buses traveled around Moscow, gathering volunteers who wanted to say "a few kind words" to the Orangemen, let them throw a stone at me.
        1. signalman
          signalman 4 February 2012 20: 50
          +6
          You’ll be careful about the stones, otherwise you’ll fail to death)))
        2. Viking
          Viking 4 February 2012 21: 30
          +4
          And you will notice how the photos are selectively presented. Many resources on the network are of the "neutral" type, like "Lenta ru." they post reports and photos from a particular position, in particular, the coverage of Bolotnaya Square and the rally on Poklonnaya is strikingly different. On Bolotnaya, they shoot posters, and they are looking for "the farther away", long quotes from speeches of speakers and photos from good angles. About Poklonnaya Square - on the other hand, the emphasis on what was "taken by force", filming from uncomfortable angles, general phrases about the speakers and muttering through teeth about the number of people. Say, “according to our correspondents,“ no more than 50 thousand people. ”These are the“ independent media ”.
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 February 2012 22: 44
          +3
          Quote: dimaas
          If someone says that these lines of buses traveled around Moscow, gathering volunteers who wanted to say "a few kind words" to the Orangemen, let them throw a stone at me.

          listen, well enough about the buses, they must have arrived at the rally in an organized manner, which is not a negation of voluntariness, if there are additional buses in the cemetery on the parent's day, this doesn’t mean that people are being kicked there
      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 4 February 2012 22: 41
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
        You are right. In the box of some "pro-Putin"

        strange, we have probably swami boxes are different in my today Yavlinsky verb
        Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
        We were supposed to send a rally for Putin from the regional hospital for a change of plumbers and electricians, the order was yesterday. They were sent today or not. I don’t know yet.

        Have you personally seen this order? !!!!
        if yes, what YOU PERSONALLY did, if you wiped yourself off, then why are you waving your hands now ?!
      4. nycsson
        nycsson 5 February 2012 00: 30
        0
        That's not news...
    3. aksakal
      aksakal 4 February 2012 21: 34
      +5
      Quote: sinandju
      I don’t like the West and the Pindos, and the Germans with the Novodvorskie all the more, but in this particular case, the people simply bred like a sucker. That is why, specifically on the same day, with similar motives, pro-Putin rallies were scheduled. Putin well done, not in vain the former Chekist operative. He simply took the civil impulse of ordinary people, who were outraged by the shamelessness of the edros, and therefore Putin, and elegantly stood at the head of the indignant, against the shamelessness of the authorities, holding dishonest elections. 19th century. The king-priest is not to blame, it is only some boyars who are atrocious. Thanks to the 90th years, the level of education in people has slightly decreased. Logically thinking is already difficult for many.
      - Do you consider yourself very smart and educated? You flatter yourself. This is the first.
      Second, he himself said: "Putin is a fine fellow, it is not for nothing that a former security officer-operative." Do you see something bad in the fact that Russia was ruled and will (hopefully) be ruled by such a sophisticated person? I don't see anything wrong with that. If only because in opponents he will have such an intriguer as Brzezinski, a high-flying pro. Oksana Dmitrievs, Medvedevs, Zyuganovs and even more so in bulk will not cope here. Brzezinski ate such politicians at breakfast and did not choke. And he will break his teeth about Putin, you yourself have confirmed.
      And you’re also mistaken that the same people who came to Sakharov on December 24 went to Poklonnaya. No, wishful thinking. These people who were on Sakharov, in the same amount came to the swamp. And people came to Poklonnaya Gora, who had not gone out to the square before. They went out to show themselves, because the liberals in all the media began to argue that Putin, because of the lack of his electorate in the squares, had no support, showed support for Putin, in general, showed that there was Russia and showed who Russia was for.
      And you can continue to prove the unprovable. Good luck in this thankless task.
      1. sinandju
        sinandju 4 February 2012 23: 27
        -4
        aksakal
        I agree with the first and second, but with the third - no. There were those who made a mistake.
    4. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 23: 01
      -3
      That’s for sure ... And now they are getting suckers bred. Like vote or lose ...
  • Evil Tatar
    Evil Tatar 4 February 2012 17: 03
    +4
    Do not flatter yourself very much ...
    Kurginyan and God knows who else is with him (oh, God forgive me), of course the devil knows who is with him, they are not worried about Putin, but for the stability with him of the paid FarWest figures - Sechin and Surkov, former GRU officers, who according to Burtsev analysts .ru, and there is a real 5th column in the leadership of Russia ...

    Come on to Burtsev.ru and read ...

    I am for Putin because of my sympathy for him as a politician, for his charisma, and my faith in Truth that has not yet faded away in me, and also because with popular unity in the ways of achieving goals, we can force, namely, make the people that rule us go along the path of development and strengthening Russia, our homeland.
    That there will be no choice for those whom we elect, except for the one that leads to the selection of power and the transformation into it of people without blood, greed, betrayal ...
    God with us!
    God is with Russia!
    1. alexander hjcnjd
      alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 18: 55
      -3
      Quote: Angry Tatar
      I am for Putin because of my sympathy for him as a politician, for his charisma, and my faith in Truth still unbroken in me

      yes you are right, the king is good, and the boyars are evil.
    2. esaul
      esaul 4 February 2012 19: 13
      -3
      Angry Tatar,
      Eugene, shake my hand! Regards, Esaul! drinks
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 4 February 2012 17: 07
    +9
    There were a lot of people at the rally. Metro "Park Pobedy" resembled rush hour,
    the huge hall was completely packed. If it were not for the frost, many would have come with children and grandchildren, Poklonnaya Gora is a symbol of the invincibility of Moscow and Russia, a symbol of the glory of Russian weapons, the same for Muscovites as Mamayev Kurgan in Volgograd. Therefore, no one will allow any podpindosny riffraff to arrange their "gangways" there, and they are well aware of this and are afraid9 they will simply come and tear them apart without any participation of the OMON. Let them hang out on Bolotnaya, Sakharov, etc. Nobody will give them back to Moscow. As they say, do not wake up smartly while it is quiet ...
  • Slayer
    Slayer 4 February 2012 17: 10
    +5
    February 23, the Communist Party formally organizes a rally, and for example, you will see in the media that the orange dabble again)))
  • Strategist
    Strategist 4 February 2012 17: 16
    +5
    TFR claims that election violation videos were distributed from a server located in the USA
    04 February 2012 years 16: 49
    Moscow. February 4th INTERFAX.RU - Most of the videos posted on the Internet about violations in the parliamentary elections in December last year were edited, said the official representative of the IC of the Russian Federation Vladimir Markin.
    According to V. Markin, such videos were recorded in Moscow, Moscow, Kemerovo, Sverdlovsk, Tyumen and Tula regions, Krasnoyarsk Territory, Chuvashia and North Ossetia-Alania, as well as in St. Petersburg and Yekaterinburg.
    "But the most remarkable thing is that all the videos were distributed from one server, which is located in the US in the state of California. In this regard, the Investigative Committee is taking steps to identify the authors and customers of these videos," V. Markin said.

    See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/politics/news.asp?dt=04.02.2012
    1. sedoj
      sedoj 4 February 2012 20: 31
      +1
      Strategist:
      such videos were recorded in Moscow, Moscow, Kemerovo, Sverdlovsk, Tyumen and Tula regions, Krasnoyarsk Territory, Chuvashia and North Ossetia-Alania, as well as in St. Petersburg and Yekaterinburg.

      This is from the words of the videos exhibited. It is possible to remove violations that have occurred "throughout Russia" in one office. Who will check?
    2. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 5 February 2012 14: 17
      0
      This YouTube server is called, and there are other popular video hosting sites, except for ru tube where everyone removes
      The day before, on the air of Ekho Moskvy, Churov said that Interior Ministry experts had checked more than a hundred videos, which, according to their authors, recorded various violations during the elections to the State Duma, and in most cases revealed signs of editing.
      The famous director Alexander Mitta explained that intra-frame editing can shorten the time interval, but it cannot change the content of the frame. “He can influence the time: not to watch it for hours, but to see the essence of this matter when a key event occurs.
      According to Mitta, Churov "manipulates the concepts of" montage. "
  • VictoRUS123
    VictoRUS123 4 February 2012 17: 18
    +7
    And in my opinion, consolidation is important in society right now, when such a tense situation, shaken by the Americans. We are on the verge of a very probable war. It is possible that having achieved their goals in Syria, Iran, the Pindos will take on us. And with whom to save Russia? Yavlinsky ?, Prokhorov ?. Bulk? Nemtsov? Or a pathological dissident Novodvorskaya? Putin has mistakes and serious ones, today we need to unite to drive all pro-American henchmen into the neck, and then we will do the debriefing. I am for Putin!
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 4 February 2012 17: 45
      +10
      And the third is not given? Or a supporter of Putin, and if not, then an American henchman? Something much has appeared overnight in our henchmen. Especially outside the MKAD. And the officials who vote with two hands for Putin, and meanwhile robbing Russia and withdrawing money abroad, who are they? Patriots?
      1. alexander hjcnjd
        alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 18: 57
        -2
        Of course, patriots. They are pumping money west, so that the amers pop would stick together and they would die of it.
      2. predator
        predator 4 February 2012 19: 00
        +4
        I agree with you. this is another fooling of the people, Putin again took up the old, promised mountains of gold! but "forgot" to report for the past 12 years. as in that joke: "presidential candidate Putin promises to correct the mistakes of the president and prime minister Putin." The best judge is this time, so she will put everything in its place ... in six months.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 4 February 2012 20: 22
          -1
          I laugh from the heart !!!! That you hit the point !!!! I completely agree with you!
        2. rennim
          rennim 4 February 2012 23: 11
          -5
          To the point ... How many of us for suckers will hold
      3. nycsson
        nycsson 4 February 2012 20: 26
        0
        That’s exactly said! Guys, we need to suppress GDP supporters with concrete facts! Let them try to answer these facts with their talkers ...
        1. Viking
          Viking 4 February 2012 21: 43
          +3
          Please push. But start the "crush", for example, with a deep study of the site "Made by us" http://www.sdelanounas.ru/ If you are really interested in the well-being of Russia. If according to the principle "the worse in Russia, the better," then of course it is not worth studying it. Disappointed ....
        2. Galina
          Galina 4 February 2012 22: 09
          +1
          alexander hjcnjd,
          nycsson,
          You need on Ukrainian television in the show of Savik Shuster or Kiselyov. There, all the orange, Americanized, passionately hating Russia, including Putin, political scientists, deputies, politicians are in great demand. Nemtsov broadcasts every week on Fridays. The pseudo-patriarch Filaret pours his slops on Patriarch Kirill in the transfer of Gordon, who even learned the Ukrainian language for the Ukrainian television audience, to be greased. Oh, what can I say. It is sad to see how you are biting, and how otherwise it is joyful to look at it.
          1. predator
            predator 4 February 2012 22: 36
            +1
            and you carefully study the biography of your idol, from the late 80's.
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 4 February 2012 23: 21
              0
              The only good news in the current situation is that not everyone in Russia’s enemies managed to rinse and dry their brains !!! It's nice to read sensible people !!!
          2. nycsson
            nycsson 4 February 2012 23: 18
            0
            I do not need anywhere, I am a patriot of my homeland - Russia! I want and I will live in this country! I am not orange, especially not Americanized! I love my country! And I do not bite here, but express my opinion on what is happening in our country! I have every right to do this, as a citizen Russia, which is not indifferent to the fate of the country in which he lives !!!
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 4 February 2012 20: 29
      +1
      In my deep conviction, your beloved GDP is a pro-American henchman, I can find no other explanation !!!
      1. sedoj
        sedoj 4 February 2012 20: 36
        +2
        Yes, you yourself even have a pro-American nickname.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 4 February 2012 20: 52
          0
          And here is my nickname, dear ???
      2. NovoSibirets
        NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 20: 46
        0
        The first fact impressed! )))
      3. rennim
        rennim 4 February 2012 23: 13
        -2
        The real one ...
    3. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 23: 09
      -3
      A war with Putin or without Putin will be someday anyway ... Well, with him all the soldiers were transferred (almost all). I was already ashamed to say that I served in the Army. The current generation is only fools and beggars. But Elvis even served in the Army ..
  • NovoSibirets
    NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 17: 32
    +6
    Berdsk, Novosibirsk region. The number of protesters is 0!
    Orange in the streets is not observed.
    Rally only traffic lights! And then, in some strange way!

    1. Galina
      Galina 4 February 2012 22: 12
      +1
      NovoSibirets,
      Bravo! Impressive.
      1. NovoSibirets
        NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 23: 47
        +1
        Hello, Galina! Well, how do you like us? Fun? So with jokes and jokes, t / say we are spending ... Come in))

        (I missed you, accidentally slammed the minus, I promise to fix my very annoying mistake below. What can’t you do for the sake of the lady!)))
        Already fixed)) ten times))
  • Call Sign Half Fifteen
    Call Sign Half Fifteen 4 February 2012 17: 38
    +11
    Well, McCain, McFaul and company, you know, we ourselves decide who will sit in the Kremlin, and not your Judas Nemtsov-anal laughing
    1. alexander hjcnjd
      alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 20: 14
      -4
      Quote: Callsign half five
      well, mccain, mcfall and company
      - they perfectly help to create an "enemy image"
    2. Erovec
      Erovec 5 February 2012 07: 36
      0
      No, Nemtsov is sorry. He already does not get up on some.
  • подводник
    подводник 4 February 2012 17: 42
    +4
    Guys!
    March 4 is still far from victory!
    Fuck knows what else is planned for these orange monkeys before this deadline!
    How many different unexpected stuffing of "left information" will be there, the purpose of which will be to destabilize unity, introduce panic and uncertainty into the immediate future, various provocations are not excluded, to inject some petty oppositional poop before the murder ........
    Sooner to relax men!

    If a mess begins in our country, it (amers) will be easier to subjugate Syria and Iran. The battle for Stalingrad is already underway.
    1. NovoSibirets
      NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 18: 12
      +4
      To hell with her, with Syria!
      Quote: submariner
      If in our country a mess begins, it (amers) will be easier to subjugate
      the whole world!

      The party will be done, only the endgame will remain! And it will be as simple as a linear mat.
    2. Erovec
      Erovec 5 February 2012 07: 38
      +1
      So I think that Putin has a couple of surprises for them.
  • Slayer
    Slayer 4 February 2012 17: 44
    +10
    I have always voted for the Communists and I will always be for them. During them, our country achieved the most power at all times. Until now, almost all that we have is the legacy of communism !!!
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 4 February 2012 17: 58
      +4
      Similarly!
    2. NovoSibirets
      NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 18: 02
      +5
      The leader makes the party! And with Mr. Zyuganov far not go. He must do a good deed. To leave.
    3. alexander hjcnjd
      alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 18: 59
      0
      I vote for the Communists, because they are the only counterweight to EP
      1. NovoSibirets
        NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 19: 29
        +6
        I, sincerely, would join! Be in place of Comrade Zyuganov, an intelligible and strong-willed leader, with a real program and a team of pros.
        1. alexander hjcnjd
          alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 20: 08
          +3
          But we have what we have, all the same we must fight the monopoly of one party in power.
          1. NovoSibirets
            NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 20: 44
            0
            Yes, fight for health ...
            You are tea from Rostov, and not from Berlin, and you do not shine on a white boat to leave for Turkey ...
            Consequently, cabbage soup slurp bast shoes, a faq case, you too ...
            Therefore, you have every right to fight ...
    4. Viking
      Viking 4 February 2012 21: 46
      +1
      Is this Sue a Communist? They made fun ...
    5. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 23: 14
      0
      I will also vote for Zyuganov ... Enough of these robbers
    6. nycsson
      nycsson 4 February 2012 23: 39
      0
      I support ...
  • runway
    runway 4 February 2012 17: 50
    +1
    If someone is in favor of fair elections, then there will be those who vote against fair elections .... I will not presume to talk about the number of protesters on Poklonnaya Gora. Because I was at Bolotnaya. In my opinion, there were much more people today than the first time. When the column of the leftists approached Maly Kamenny Bridge today, Bolotnaya Square was already packed and people were "over the edge." According to information from Poklonnaya Gora, the rally "for Putin" looks just wretched ...
    But the issue is not even the number of people who attended the rallies. Today I saw people who, for their beliefs, went cold and are ready to move on. I am glad for these people and for myself that I saw this.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 4 February 2012 21: 51
      +3
      All sane people for fair elections. Against only a narrow group playing some of their games. These people are in power, they are in opposition. In this situation, unfair presidential elections are in the hands of the opposition, so Putin will not take risks. One thing I don’t understand is what leftist and other patriotic groups are doing at a rally of pro-Western liberals and mink intelligentsia. What and for whom did they report there? Only for myself, because the performance of their representatives were not noticed, neither by television and radio channels, nor by the Internet. But the curly-haired Borya and his comrades were promoted to the fullest. Is it worth it to freeze your ears for this gop company?
    2. Viking
      Viking 4 February 2012 21: 52
      +3
      Quote: piston.k
      According to information from Poklonnaya Gora, the rally "for Putin" looks just wretched ...

      At the top there is a photo of almost 140 thousand people look "wretched". Take a look.
      As well as shooting the rally on Poklonnaya Hill from a helicopter http://www.ria.ru/tv_politics/20120204/556478848.html
    3. Galina
      Galina 4 February 2012 22: 19
      +2
      We saw orange in Ukraine. Now I look - the same in Russia. Pulls for vomiting. You guys don’t understand what you are doing. Or do it on purpose. Does someone else's experience teach anything?
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 4 February 2012 23: 45
        +1
        Yes, we are not orange, I repeat to you once again! Russia with a GDP has no future - this is my personal opinion!
      2. dvina
        dvina 5 February 2012 01: 24
        +1
        Galina ... In Ukraine ... otherwise write on the mov. In Russian correctly in Ukraine. Do not clumsy Russian language.
        1. Chukotka resident
          Chukotka resident 5 February 2012 01: 38
          -2
          Quote: dvina
          Do not clumsy Russian language.

          In Russia.
          1. dvina
            dvina 5 February 2012 03: 04
            +5
            Banderlog did not ask for a grammar, but if interested I will tell you. In Russia, in the Urals. In the Kuban, in Kamchatka and of course in Ukraine ... And even if you crack banderlogs in Russian, it will be so. And how to learn how to maintain your viability somehow, without distorting the Russian language ... To build a frigate in the end .... And do not forget the windmill fields ....
    4. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 5 February 2012 06: 07
      0
      piston you have a problem under the cry for a fair election dragged you into the bucket - open your eyes! This rally was not for fair elections but against the current state of things and the situation in the country!
      1. runway
        runway 5 February 2012 15: 32
        +3
        ytqnhfk.
        Thanks to everyone who got acquainted with my opinion about what they saw on February 4 ....
        I want to say that no one pulled me anywhere. I am already quite an adult and have long had my own point of view on the processes taking place in my country. I clearly understand why the media conveyed information from the rally "for Putin" in such detail, and why they biasedly covered the rally "against Putin." Painfully harsh words were chanted by the protesters during the march. Putin will clearly not like them .... He will be dissatisfied .... I know that if you shoot the end of the rally, the picture will be one, and if its culmination, then it will be completely different. In shooting, the angle, panorama, light, types are important .... The rally "against Putin" was full of provocateurs. They were willingly filmed by the media. But the bulk of people did not come to show off in the cold in front of the cameras. People came out to defend their beliefs. They are sure that the current government is criminal. She is not interested in holding fair elections. Otherwise, she would herself investigate the obvious facts of violations, and not punish those who did not provide the authorities with a high percentage.
        This was the main thing that united different people at the rally "against Putin." And I know that many were against Nemtsov, Sobchak, especially Novodvorskaya. But people didn't drive anyone. And they did not arrange any showdown with provocateurs. I haven't seen such polite Muscovites for a long time. Which I wish you all.
        The benefits of these rallies are already there. Our hand guides no longer call people office plankton with contraceptives on their chests. Moreover, they already imitate the fulfillment of the requirements put forward by people. When we achieve the fulfillment of all our requirements, we will all live in a new and strong Russia for millions, not for millionaires!
  • Hleb
    Hleb 4 February 2012 18: 00
    -2
    Not mine, stumbled on the internet

    Once upon a time in the cold winter time,
    I left the house; there was a severe frost.
    I’m watching how they wander to Poklonnaya Gora
    People carrying the slogans of carts.

    - Where are you guys? - “At a rally, get cold!”
    - Why are we protesting? - “We are waiting for stability!
    The authorities ordered, and we - serfs.
    They steal there, and here we go. ”

    - And who among the thieves will be the senior in rank?
    “Yes, a little man rules twelve years.
    He threw a sheepskin for the election today.
    In big powers ... and he’s got a fingernail. ”

    So there it is. What is his name? - "Vova!"
    But the senior among them cut off the conversation:
    “Go, Orange!” He shouted sternly.
    The crowd under the bridle and walked forward.
    1. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 23: 16
      -1
      Well done. To the point !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1
  • domokl
    domokl 4 February 2012 18: 03
    +1
    Probably everyone wants fair elections .. But why is it all the same crap every time? People go to rallies, but then for some reason in Moscow .. The rest of Zamkadie talk about 599 as a great achievement or a thousand people there ...
  • Slayer
    Slayer 4 February 2012 18: 04
    -2
    Gleb the way it is))
  • estonian
    estonian 4 February 2012 18: 11
    +2
    Thank God that there are still smart people) For Putin For Russia !!)) drinks
    1. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 23: 18
      0
      For Russia!!! But without Putin.
      1. SlavaS
        SlavaS 4 February 2012 23: 33
        -3
        What did he do wrong?
        1. Chukotka resident
          Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 23: 37
          -1
          Quote: SlavaS
          What did he do wrong?

          and did something at all?
          1. dvina
            dvina 5 February 2012 01: 53
            0
            Banderlog forced to pay for gas ..
          2. SlavaS
            SlavaS 5 February 2012 02: 03
            0
            He built ships, the first mine in 2005 He was ready, before that, about 15 years, not a single one was.
            And who has done anything at all lately? or will do?
  • suharev - 52
    suharev - 52 4 February 2012 18: 12
    +2
    Callsign half five. So it turns out that you put in the Kremlin - this clown, Jew - "iPhone". So who should be presented: mercury lamps (without collecting them), donation of the territory of Russia - Norway, article 282 and much, much more. Now we know your name.
  • sergunec
    sergunec 4 February 2012 18: 14
    0
    I can’t be silent! Gospada breaks us. NATO ki. An excess of feelings !!!!!!!!!!!!! Nemou degenerate adequate. Raise.
    1. NovoSibirets
      NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 18: 18
      +2
      ___ Thick.
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 4 February 2012 23: 56
      -1
      Grammar needs to be tightened ...
      1. dvina
        dvina 5 February 2012 01: 25
        0
        Sober up ... you do not understand anything in Russian nature laughing
  • baskoy
    baskoy 4 February 2012 18: 33
    +6
    The impudence and licimerism of the speakers at Bolotnaya is understandable, but the stupidity of those who came to listen to them is surprising. Just think a little ... In every election commission there were representatives of all parties. It is logical to assume that the parties sent there not the last trash from their ranks, but more worthy ones. Not a single party announced the protocols of the huts unsigned by their representatives. com. (at least a few hundred). The protocols were signed by everyone. If a party claims mass fraud, then its best representatives turned out to be simply cowardly, corrupt or complete idiots. What respect does such a party deserve? And the Yabloko members probably thought that the electoral commission would play along with them when registering Yavlinsky. Or, nevertheless, guess that they will find fault? And they could not provide the required number of "reinforced concrete" signatures (albeit 2 million). And they claim to rule such a country at such a time.
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 4 February 2012 20: 14
      +3
      Well, what do you want, the brain is rinsed with the house-2 program, etc., etc. When our people will think with their heads, it’s not clear ...
    2. sedoj
      sedoj 4 February 2012 20: 44
      +4
      Yavlinsky most likely re-old lists. Therefore, the copies did not pass.
  • sinandju
    sinandju 4 February 2012 18: 46
    +5
    Exactly. Norway presented 200.000 sq km of the Baltic Sea; from the Suvorov schools made civil lyceums; we practically don’t do new aircraft engines, we buy drones and helicopter carriers, although we have our own ones, moreover, designed for our stuffing, not like Israeli or French ones; Serdyukov refused the latest tank; Unified State Exam, which the world has long abandoned since the youth is blunting - we have been introduced; military schools close; Gazprom and Rosneft raise tariffs, although if the billions of dollars in dividends that are left in the pockets of the nouveau riche from the authorities are left in companies, tariffs can not be increased for 10 years and at the same time, the gas pipeline network in residential buildings, and not only; The Black Sea Fleet was practically abandoned - they survived, until recently the Luzhkov and the taxpayers of a separate city of Russia - Moscow, and not the state paid the fleet money ..........

    And all this is the tricks of edrosov, of course, but Putin is not to blame.
    1. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 4 February 2012 19: 48
      +7
      sinandju
      These are examples of serious mistakes, no doubt, but there are areas where indicators are significantly improved. This cannot be discounted.
      Who's guilty? Opinions may be different.
      I believe that a weak spot in the development strategy. There are no professionals in the team. There are no managers. Therefore, some indicators go up, others down. We lift one, drop the other. Like Charlie Chaplin's in the movies.
      So we divided the people into those who look at the sky, and those who look at their feet. Which one is more right? Who is better? Or to whom power is right?
      I want to remind:
      "Politics is a concentrated expression of economics." (dialectical materialism).

      Those. the economy is always in the first place, and not vice versa. Not politics is responsible for the welfare of the people and the state, but the economy.
      Therefore, if prices rise, tariffs rise, what do people think?
      That's right, not everything is in order with the economy or the distribution of benefits, and this immediately affects politics. Who to ask? That's right - from the president. Who is dissatisfied - right, it's simple and logical.
      My complaints are basic, social. Rates, prices, spiritual development of youth, education and medicine - for free. I will vote for the candidate who will do it. It could be GDP, but, alas ...
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 4 February 2012 21: 41
        +1
        But who is stopping them from fixing all this ??? I know what I’ll say, it would be a desire, and the rest is ridiculous excuses! We have a lot of smart people in our country. managers, etc., so no one allows them to power ... the whole system is built ... you say that there are positive aspects, but you don’t give concrete examples! I can’t name such moments today ...
        1. Samsebenaum
          Samsebenaum 5 February 2012 00: 09
          +2
          nycsson
          I do not quote in order not to repeat the supporters.
          And yet, I will not tell you for the whole of Odessa ... but in my city they began to deal with roads. I am glad of this, the suspension is more intact, sports complexes and supermarkets are being built, the facades of houses along the main streets have also been tinted.
          The embankment is being built. Although now the situation is such, there are a lot of places for spending money, but not enough for making money. I am amazed at this approach. The imbalance is terrible.
          At us, the Moscow trading business controls almost everything, there is no government for them, even the governor. If it will yap, they’ll take it off. What kind of fight against corruption can we talk about? All of our fighters were simply transplanted.
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 4 February 2012 20: 11
      0
      I completely agree! Maybe the proponents of GDP will explain to me why 92 gasoline costs 28-30 rubles ??? Or will they enlighten us on electricity tariffs !!! You read - only speculations and guesses! Hurray, long live the GDP, but what is it for for our 12 years of rule I have done good in our country, I absolutely do not understand !!!
      1. dvina
        dvina 4 February 2012 20: 42
        0
        With fuel, everything is clear. In the price of fuel at gas stations more than 50% taxes. Thus, the state gets what it is losing on a flat taxation scale.
        Here, even a certain element of justice is present. People with small salaries cannot buy and maintain cars and pay the same 13% accordingly .... Those who are well paid 13% plus fuel taxes .... Well, I must add that the share of gray salaries is large and this, too, the state needs to somehow compensate.
        I don’t have a passenger car ... Only two trucks ... And the fuel costs like 95th .... The paradox is on the one hand ... and on the other, the state apparently believes that it does not collect enough taxes from freight carriers .. .
        here's how so ...
    3. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 23: 20
      0
      Of course it's not my fault. He doesn't sleep at night only about us and "thinks" ...
    4. SlavaS
      SlavaS 5 February 2012 02: 07
      +5
      Well, you might think that someone else will come, sprinkle gold on everyone and make gas for free
  • DikRoss
    DikRoss 4 February 2012 18: 47
    +7
    Putin is neither a saint nor a Leader, he is simply a chance for Russia to revive. And the magnitude of this chance is proportional to the quantity and quality of those who believed in it. And the main events will occur after March 4. The scenario is known: RESULTS ARE FITTED !!! WE DID NOT CHOOSE PUTIN !!! LET'S GOING TO BRAKE .....
    1. sinandju
      sinandju 4 February 2012 19: 20
      +7
      Of course, Russia will give Putin another chance, just as usual with us - we have to choose the lesser of two evils. We don't fucking need the Orangemen with the amerikosov, let's hope that Putin and his friends won't have us very much. That's how we live. As L. Bykov said in the famous film - "Let's live!"
    2. sevas
      sevas 4 February 2012 20: 48
      +1
      And 12 years this chance was not?
  • sergo0000
    sergo0000 4 February 2012 19: 02
    +1
    I admit I had a worse opinion about Muscovites! (They say they’ve eaten up. Brains swam from fat.) Now I see that there are normal people among you. In adequate. And if anything starts, God forbid of course! I’ll come to you to help beat the orange infection! !!
    1. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 5 February 2012 06: 19
      +1
      serge if the troubles begin it will be necessary and not only to you, I think everyone !!!!! I’m basically getting ready for the worst! But I don’t want 90 anymore I don’t want bread on coupons and many other things I don’t want my children to see sweets for six months I don’t want my mother crying at night for nothing to feed us that my father didn’t know what to make money to bring, where to earn? - = I DO NOT WANT!
  • UI-Spb
    UI-Spb 4 February 2012 19: 14
    +2
    Well, the whiners are orange, have bitten !!! Your pathetic followers came 5 times less than Putin! The guys said correctly: It will be necessary and we will bring more!
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 4 February 2012 20: 04
      +9
      What you are not happy about is not clear, the country is almost on the verge of another civil war ... Now the main task is to make the elections transparent and fair, otherwise, it will not seem to you, the proponents of GDP, or us, its opponents .. .The enemies of our country are sleeping and see such a scenario ...
      1. UI-Spb
        UI-Spb 4 February 2012 21: 16
        +1
        The enemies of our country do not sleep, and in the rare moments of oblivion they have a nightmare when Putin becomes the honestly elected president of Russia. That is why the GDP proposed to install cameras in the polling stations and invited independent observers. People are tired of the lies and screams of dissatisfaction with the election results from pro-Western outsiders tearing their throats in the swamp. That is why so many people went to the bow! It pleases me, the people said: Enough to yell! There will be no civil war, since the citizens of Russia, and not the pro-American minority, will not allow wars! And for those who don’t understand, really, it’s not enough.
        1. sinandju
          sinandju 4 February 2012 23: 16
          +1
          did you personally conduct a survey among the entire population to consider yourself a majority? Maybe this is Putin with his supporters of propindosnos. We exclude oranzhists, but okromya them in Russia is still full of people who do not like Putin.
          1. UI-Spb
            UI-Spb 5 February 2012 13: 13
            0
            And you do not poke me! Bring any argument to you, you’ll spoil it! The point of proving something ...
          2. 5 February 2012 20: 05
            +2
            Quote: sinandju
            did you personally conduct a survey among the entire population to consider yourself a majority?

            The survey results are known, so don’t worry, Putin really is the majority.

            Quote: sinandju
            Maybe this is Putin with his supporters propindosnosniki

            And everyone has to decide for himself. Look not doing and decide.

      2. rennim
        rennim 4 February 2012 23: 21
        -3
        If GDP chooses wars, no escape
        1. dvina
          dvina 4 February 2012 23: 31
          +3
          Well, war is war ... Putin gives a chance to avoid occupation ... In that case, I am for him!
  • Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 4 February 2012 19: 15
    0
    Russia wakes up, patriots unite in the fight against the orange plague.
    A rally on Poklonnaya Hill, only a slight awakening.
    Perhaps, even the organizers of the rally themselves did not expect so many participants, for which they would be punished with a fine (though Putin promised to take part of the costs for himself).
  • bubla5
    bubla5 4 February 2012 19: 21
    +1
    I’m not Putin’s supporters, but of course there are progress, I travel around Russia on business trips where bureaucrats are backward and destitute, but most places begin to be built up, there are cities that are expensive to see, of course there is for us * a good scenario * to give out to everyone * to Kalash * and after good calculations, who will stay (I think% 35) will live well if they are allowed to.
  • kekse
    kekse 4 February 2012 19: 33
    +6
    The fact that the situation will begin to swing after March 4 is for sure, but for now the orange are training their electorate.
  • Jeen
    Jeen 4 February 2012 19: 38
    -6
    How I fell in love with Putin for 500 rubles
    http://www.svobodanews.ru/content/article/24473526.html
    Radio Liberty correspondent was one of the participants in a rally in support of Putin on Poklonnaya Hill. And he received the promised reward for this.
    1. NovoSibirets
      NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 19: 55
      +6
      I looked. Laughed a lot. You might as well concoct an article "How I Loved Aliens." Where is the proof?
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 4 February 2012 20: 30
      +1
      Radio Liberty very authoritative pro-Russian organization.
      1. sedoj
        sedoj 4 February 2012 20: 53
        +4
        By the way, didn't Radio Liberty recently had an incident with an interview with Navalny?
      2. Jeen
        Jeen 4 February 2012 21: 04
        -4
        Yes, it's true
        This is a very reputable media, which recently turned 70 years old.
        And the pro-Russian ...
        Exactly, this term clearly defines how the whole world is divided in your brain. Not wrong-right or beautiful-ugly, but pro-Russian / anti-Russian
        Agitprop exult
        1. sprut
          sprut 4 February 2012 21: 59
          +2
          You write some crap, pro-Western sucker!
          1. Jeen
            Jeen 4 February 2012 22: 25
            -2
            smile Is it difficult to understand a few Russian words?
            Agitprop exult
      3. NovoSibirets
        NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 21: 10
        +5
        Only the ways of working are not authoritative. The fact of transfer and receipt of money must be recorded. In addition, it is necessary to prove the existence of a causal relationship between the fact of the transfer of money and the intended purpose (for participating in the rally), as well as to prove that the person transferring the money is not an Orange provocateur, but is endowed with the powers of Putin's supporters for this. It is practically impossible to prove this, but this is not a reason to cook unsubstantiated articles for "authoritative pro-Russian organizations." Nobody canceled the presumption of innocence. This, by the way, is a democratic principle. ))
    3. Sergh
      Sergh 4 February 2012 20: 51
      0
      Ну Yep Irina Chevtaeva presented a series of publications on socio-political issues to the contest. These are text and radio materials broadcast on Radio Liberty and published on the website of the radio station.

      A personal scholarship was established by Interfax in 2004 in memory of Boris Grishchenko, who worked at the agency for over 10 years.

      The size of the scholarship is five thousand rubles a month, the freelance correspondent of RadioSvoboda, well at least she did not say that the peasants were not allowed to fuck for free

      Irina Chevtaeva submitted to the competition a series of publications on socio-political issues. These are text and radio materials broadcast on Radio Liberty and published on the website of the radio station.

      A personal scholarship was established by Interfax in 2004 in memory of Boris Grishchenko, who worked at the agency for over 10 years.
      The amount of the scholarship is five thousand rubles per month
    4. sprut
      sprut 4 February 2012 21: 57
      +3
      In my opinion, Radio Liberty is nobody and nothing, bullshit for Russia.
    5. 5 February 2012 20: 09
      0
      j,
      http://vvv-ig.livejournal.com/71841.html
  • Knowing
    Knowing 4 February 2012 19: 47
    0
    The Chinese offer Moscow a military alliance against the United States and NATO
    No. 4 (296) [“Arguments of the Week”]

    www.mega-u.ru
    On January 30, the organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the People's Republic of China, the newspaper "People's Daily" published an article "China and Russia should create the Eurasian Alliance." It seems that Chinese experts are seriously concerned about the escalation of tension that is happening around Iran. Great suspicion in Beijing is also caused by the new US military strategy that threatens the Middle Kingdom. But what do Chinese experts suggest to Russia?
    The Chinese argue that in the emerging environment, the goal of the Americans is to conquer the world. And Eurasia in this situation will be the "main field of action." Right before our eyes, Washington surrounds and isolates China and Russia - they are "its last strategic goal."
  • Igarr
    Igarr 4 February 2012 19: 50
    +7
    Novodvorskaya - Toad, on a box. - in the open yells - our choice - West.
    And is she still here? Well, I would go myself ....
    Putin, Putin ...... twelve years, really. But there are many problems.

    Does anyone have exact knowledge - it will not be Putin - will everything be chocolate at once?
    Begin he to act in the spirit of "oprichnina" - so he will immediately arrange a thread, his environment.
    The article was here, Dugin - war should be declared to the "elite".
    They will choose Putin - in 4 years we’ll see the result.
    And now, in my opinion, it is necessary to exclude any revolutionism. And even more so - orange-red-white. Choked on change, satiety.
    GDP is completely up to date on all matters, absolutely. Well, let's see what Russia will come to in 2016.
    And the rallies - well, as Russia stresses - we are democrats, democrats.
    1. signalman
      signalman 4 February 2012 21: 09
      +1
      And why by 2016, and not by 2018?
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 4 February 2012 21: 31
        0
        And what is the term of the presidency?
        For some reason, I considered 4 years. 2012 plus 4 = 2016. Spruce, forgot that 6 years.
        To blame. Yes, until 2018.
  • Knowing
    Knowing 4 February 2012 19: 51
    0
    Electoral irregularities spread from the USA!
    1. alexander hjcnjd
      alexander hjcnjd 4 February 2012 20: 35
      -1
      The money of Vova and his friends is kept there .....
      1. NovoSibirets
        NovoSibirets 4 February 2012 20: 59
        0
        Listen, Alexander, you really should not discredit yourself with such posts please. Well, it’s a joke. How then to take you seriously?
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 4 February 2012 21: 24
        +1
        That's for sure ... In recent years, how much dough they exported from the country and invested in the Pindos economy, instead of their own!? But hurray the GDP ... goofy ... the fish rots from the head - this is a wise popular saying ...
        1. dvina
          dvina 4 February 2012 22: 25
          -2
          And specifically it is possible? Who! And how much did it take out?
          somehow unfoundedly got you .... even at ease .. sorry for my English ...
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 4 February 2012 23: 03
            0
            Yes, the fact that money is flowing out of the country to the west even through the first channel is said ... !!! It is a pity that you don’t know about it, but who and how much, I don’t know, I’m a small person, they don’t dedicate me to these matters! !! I just state the facts, factories are not being built, there are no grandiose projects, etc. But your last words are at least not beautiful, behave yourself, I also know a lot of bad words, but nevertheless I don’t apply them, although I would personally apply them to you with pleasure, education does not allow ...
            1. dvina
              dvina 4 February 2012 23: 36
              +3
              The fact that money is comforting I know. And you probably know who displays them .. So do not be shy, lay out. Your position must be supported by figures, facts ... Without this, all your statements in pure water are slogans ... emotions and nothing ... and they are worthless.
              I still haven’t found a single anti-Putin who would strictly figure out what, where and how he was kidnapped ... But Putin is a thief screaming loudly ... it's pozhalsta.
              Are you one of those?
              1. novikovtolik
                novikovtolik 5 February 2012 00: 55
                -1
                I'm sorry dvina. I didn’t go there.
                1. dvina
                  dvina 5 February 2012 01: 32
                  -1
                  I'm sorry dvina. I didn’t go there.

                  It's okay, I'm not conceited ... but immediately clear - seen and read ..
              2. Tatanka Yotanka
                Tatanka Yotanka 5 February 2012 14: 54
                0
                and in whose hands oil, gas, resources, metallurgical plants, etc., and that brings-you oligarchs or power, and who bred for 12 years from 10 to 200 pieces in the Forbes list. there are no digits, but money is withdrawn, probably it is state employees and hard workers manage financial flows
        2. 5 February 2012 20: 12
          -1
          Quote: nycsson
          .In recent years, how much dough they exported from the country and invested in the Pindos economy, instead of their own!

          And you ask why this is happening. Well, think a little ...
          Here you have a clue, and then yourself: http://nstarikov.ru/category/videolections
      3. nycsson
        nycsson 4 February 2012 23: 09
        0
        Time will put everyone in their place ...
        1. dvina
          dvina 4 February 2012 23: 38
          +1
          Time will put everyone in their place ...


          Again the slogans ...
  • nycsson
    nycsson 4 February 2012 19: 55
    +2
    Hello to all supporters of GDP! Read your thoughts, like he is the hope of Russia and all that! I have to disagree with this! Well, first of all, the fact that Moscow supported him is not surprising for me, in Moscow 80-90% of all Russian money, and the standard of living in Moscow and, for example, in Voronezh cannot be compared. Secondly, in my opinion, Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin-Medvedev are links of the same chain! If I am not mistaken, then in 1991 the population of our country was about 152-154 million people, the recent census showed that there are about 140-142 million people left of us - this does not take into account nationality. Thus, during the 20 years of the reign of the above "leaders", the country was missing about 10 million people !!! I dare to remind all supporters of the GDP that the main and most sacred function of the state is to preserve and increase its population, what is the main function and task of our state at the moment is not clear!? And after all, out of these 500000 years, your idol is in power20- more than half! Of you, anyone can tell me at least one direction, area of ​​state activity, etc. where our country has not been levied in full over the past 12 years ??? Everywhere there is total corruption, wherever you look: medicine, education, the army, the FSB, the prosecutor's office, etc. The United States and its supporters have almost captured the Caspian region, 20 more 2 months and that's it, and we just started modernizing the military-industrial complex and building factories and supplying equipment to the army ... And so in any matter ... Aviation and the fleet are in complete decline! And those recent advances in individual issues took place under Medvedev - this is mainly his initiative! Housing was given to veterans, they began to provide housing, money allowances were raised, Georgians were given in the face, etc.
    1. komrad alex
      komrad alex 4 February 2012 20: 31
      +3
      At this stage of the country's development, VV Putin, as the future president of the Russian Federation, has no alternative! Which of the candidates are Duma elders or Prokhorov will do something better? The progress under Medvedev is the result of the work of the Medvedev-Putin tandem, well, the mess in various industries and in the field will continue for a long time, because everything can be broken in a year, and restoration can take decades.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 4 February 2012 21: 04
        0
        It’s interesting to read you, dear opponent! It’s in such years, I’m embarrassed to ask, did we restore something ??? In my deep conviction, until now, we are only breaking everything !!! God bless the Soviet engineers and all the workers who such a reserve of strength was laid in our enterprises and strategic objects ...
        1. komrad alex
          komrad alex 4 February 2012 21: 26
          -2
          All that you wrote is stupid to deny, the way it is, but who is more worthy of yours as president, naturally, of those running for it? Moreover, in the Duma elections I did not vote for EP.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 5 February 2012 00: 06
            -3
            Unfortunately no one! This is a well-played performance with a well-known end! What follows will not be known ... Russia needs a new leader who will radically change today's politics!
        2. rennim
          rennim 4 February 2012 23: 27
          -3
          That's right ... I worked as an engineer in a half-foreign company. My boss was a foreigner. I earned millions with my office work ... For this, the foreigner did not like it. Changing \ threw out
    2. Charon
      Charon 4 February 2012 20: 40
      +2
      I agree.
      Moscow moneyboxes got it. Dumb dough mowers, in the most primitive way exploiting the ideas of local workers receiving pennies.
    3. signalman
      signalman 4 February 2012 21: 20
      +3
      Indeed, Putin is to blame for everything! Well, he isn’t enough for all Russian women to give birth more, to know the wrong years! As for Medvedev, if Putin had not calculated for him the rubble remaining after the EBN, then he wouldn’t have succeeded! And under Putin, Sasiskikoshvili would not even have thought to arrange a mess!
    4. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 23: 24
      0
      Very objective. RESPECT !!!
  • sinandju
    sinandju 4 February 2012 20: 28
    +6
    But under Putin, many of our foreign military bases were curtailed, including in Cuba, and when the Pindos drowned our boat, Putin said nothing. And he removed all the profile ministers, and put everywhere (only Lavrov remained) some freaks who only make people laugh or make him angry. This is not harm to Russia? I want confidence in the future and be proud of my country, but I’m not very confident in Putin. After his law on the reorganization of ministries and departments, officials became no less, but more, Nurgaliev in the impudent after Kushchevka gives the order to the Krasnodar head of the police department, probably because bandits in the Kuban live well there, After Pikalyov Putin forbids blocking federal highways, even like the last argument and the desperate cry of people, down to criminal articles.
    For me - the Communists are better, but okromya Zyuganov is full of normal, adequate people there. And there are more patriots than in edrossov. Moreover, these patriots, because they were not afraid to stay in a party that only the lazy did not scoop in the 90s, moreover screaming and obsessing from across the ocean to catch up.
    1. подводник
      подводник 4 February 2012 20: 52
      +3
      Do you know a lot about how Putin acted during the Kursk tragedy?
      1. Aleksey67
        Aleksey67 4 February 2012 20: 56
        0
        подводник,
        In vain you are "beading", I am amazed too Putin should have untied TMV? Damn, got it already
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 4 February 2012 22: 59
          +2
          Yes, it wasn’t, but it was obliged to protect national interests, not by the backstage ...
        2. Galina
          Galina 4 February 2012 23: 22
          0
          I support you submariner and Alexei67.
          From the point of view of one event, taken out of the time context of the event, Kutuzov, who gave Moscow to Napoleon, was a traitor to Russia, however, time showed the exact opposite. T. about. Applied by Messrs. Sinandju, nycsson, and others, the formula for assessing Putin’s activities suffers from a lack of understanding of the situation, haste, and a biased attitude to GDP.
          You need to understand that if the GDP wanted to surrender to Russia, then he would have done it a long time ago. However, we see the opposite - he continues to fight! Then why draw such incompetent conclusions? I think the guys need to think about it.
          Recall folk wisdom: THE CHICKens ARE AUTHORIZED!
          Let's see what Putin will do next as president.
          1. sinandju
            sinandju 4 February 2012 23: 54
            0
            Galina
            Norway was presented with 200.000 sq km of the Baltic; from the Suvorov schools were made civilian lyceums; we practically do not make new aircraft engines, we buy drones and helicopter carriers, although there are our own ones, moreover, for our filling and intended, not just Israeli or French; Serdyukov refused the newest tank; The Unified State Exam, which has been abandoned all over the world for a long time, because young people are stupid - we have introduced; military schools are being closed; Gazprom and Rosneft overestimate the tariffs, although if the billions in dividends that settle in the pockets of the nouveau riche from the authorities are left in the companies, the tariffs can not be increased for 10 years and at the same time the gas pipeline network in residential buildings can be reconstructed, and not only; The Black Sea Fleet was practically abandoned - they survived, until recently Luzhkov and the taxpayers of a separate Russian city - Moscow, not the state - paid money to the fleet, Putin carried out a government reform 6 years ago - the number of officials increased, profile ministers, except Lavrov, left no one - only freaks, like Fursenko or Golikova and others like them, about Chubais, I generally keep quiet, he is a master to ruin, but why such are needed at the top - I don't understand. After Kushchevka, Nurgaliev gave the order to the local chief of the Department of Internal Affairs, after Pikalev, Putin forbade blocking the highways. You can go on for a long time, even making the closure of military bases abroad and the secret death of the Kursk secondary - the previous one is enough to ask the struggle for what it is continuing - the country's survival or stuffing his own pocket and his friends. In housing and communal services, the infrastructure is worn out by 70%, the tariffs of state monopolies are becoming more expensive, the proven oil reserves are left for a few years, and it takes more than 10 years to explore new ones and start operating.
            Like in a cartoon about Alyosha-Popovich, I would like to ask through the lips of Yuli: “I don’t understand, is this a plan?”.
            1. dvina
              dvina 5 February 2012 03: 47
              +1
              Which Baltic? What are we smoking? Barents ... Disputed territory since the Second World War.
              She stupidly divided by gender. Not a bad option, given that Norway is a member of the Arctic Club. The redistribution there is often planned not a little and it is better to give way in a little .., but to have a lot more .. Not a lot, not a little shelf with hydrocarbons.
      2. dimaas
        dimaas 4 February 2012 21: 06
        +1
        As far as I remember, after reporting the death of the submarine, Putin spent a whole week on vacation in Sochi. And his attitude to this event is well illustrated by the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyKq61fUPcU&feature=related
        1. dvina
          dvina 4 February 2012 23: 22
          0
          And he had to fasten an akvklang and personally rescuer save the team?
          In addition, not a week, but two days ... was silent ... And what did he say that was?
          He started the engine "which" did not work for 10 years and only grew decrepit ...
          This is the thinnest place and burst .... Well, and what he had to do.
          Go out onto the square, kneel down and scream - Forgive me citizens. I ordered the army and the fleet to do exercises and maneuvers ..
          1. runway
            runway 5 February 2012 15: 55
            +1
            dvina.
            Sorry, I could not restrain myself. If the Supreme Commander-in-Chief loses his connection in a day and doesn’t care much for him, then why the hell am I such a commander .... Not only in reconnaissance, but close to people, this should not be allowed to happen.
            Eternal memory to the Kursk crew.
            1. dvina
              dvina 5 February 2012 17: 21
              -2
              Where did you get that it didn't bother him?
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 5 February 2012 22: 14
          +1
          Yes, he played a point in full! !!! What else can you say.
      3. sinandju
        sinandju 4 February 2012 21: 42
        +1
        (submariner)
        and what is there to know, maybe at that time I was in Russia, and not somewhere, and I did not suck a pacifier in diapers. Maybe you were on a flight where I was far away, I don’t know, but then look at the archives of newspapers at least. Ask people
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 4 February 2012 21: 15
      +2
      I agree about the base in Cuba - this is a direct betrayal of the national interests of your country! And I write, too, about our boat, and I have tears in my eyes, how they drowned our sailors so that they don’t tell what happened to them, because they could easily be saved , the depth of only 100 meters was !!! They are real holy martyrs, long memory to them, and may the land be good for them ... But after that, the USA wrote off some debts to us, granted soft loans, etc. And I completely agree about our ministers, there is no profile minister in any ministry ...
      1. dvina
        dvina 4 February 2012 22: 31
        -1
        How long can a person hold out in water with a temperature of + 3C?
        Maximum hour .... This is the time during which it was possible to save the survivors.
        I have a question .... Putin is God? Or does he have a direct connection with him?
        And what loans did the US write off? Let's not hide. Spread it out as you wish. How much, when and for what .... Otherwise, I only know that in 2005 I really didn’t really want to take money back in Paris .... the negotiations were going on for a long time ....
        1. sinandju
          sinandju 4 February 2012 22: 52
          +1
          people were not in the water, but in the boat. And not an hour, but many more. While Putin did not give the order to keep everything secret, on the first day and second on the news they still said that the guys were alive there and they heard the tapping of the Morse code. Only the next day all the information was closed, and then they started to lie. Remember.
          1. dvina
            dvina 4 February 2012 23: 55
            0
            What is morse code? What clatter? All this news was accompanied by words seems and is possible ...
            YES were in the boat. In a boat in which the hull floor is destroyed, there is no electricity, there is no air, it is dark cold and the water is constantly drowning .. Well, what was the temperature in the boat?
            much depends on who exactly was the author of the note found in the 9th compartment. Aryapov's place of service is the 6th compartment, where the Kursk nuclear reactor is located. Apparently, says Igor Karpov, a corps engineer who created the Kursk at the Sevmash shipbuilding plant, Aryapov could have written a note between the first relatively mild explosion in the bow of the submarine and the second, which caused catastrophic damage to it.

            “The first explosion on the nuclear submarine was not fatal for the personnel of the 6th compartment - only a nuclear explosion could have reached it. It seems that the threat to the life of the personnel of the movement division commanded by Lieutenant Commander Aryapov came only after the second, more powerful The reactor was automatically drowned out, but it was torn from the foundation, water poured into the gap. It cannot be ruled out that it was during this short period that the officer managed to write a note about the situation in the compartment. When the flooding began, the sailors through the bulkhead doors between 6 The 7th and 8th compartments moved to the 9th, where the submariners had the only hope of salvation - to get to the surface through the emergency escape hatch, "Karpov explained.

            Well, then, the second explosion still got the reactor compartment, which means it was close to the nuclear power plant. Water went into the undestroyed compartments. It took only time to fill the 9th compartment. Apparently by the time the rescue capsule docked for the first time with Kursk, the compartment was already filled with water. In order to open the hatch, it is necessary to equalize the pressure, it was said about the capsule that they could not do this. Even some kind of deformation was dragged .. Here you have the crew’s piss ...
            Notes to the article were classified ... but most likely there was a description after the explosion, and not the explosion itself. Those who could describe it died in the nasal compartments. Judging by the power of the explosion ... quickly without agony, thank God.
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 5 February 2012 22: 10
              +1
              It is disgusting to read your speculations and opinions on this matter!
          2. nycsson
            nycsson 5 February 2012 22: 08
            +1
            Yes, that’s exactly what happened! Our country didn’t know such betrayal !!! How could you meet with them and smile after that ?! Everything secret becomes clear sooner or later ...
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 4 February 2012 22: 54
          +2
          As for the temperature +3 - I don't know where you got it, but if my memory serves me, then our submariners held out there for several tens of hours, I watched the film and programs, there they said about a note written by a sailor in pencil in simple words, in which he put the time. And the film was watched by the French director "Submarine in troubled waters", which by the way was banned on our television. Soon after the tragedy, the director of the CIA came to us during negotiations and certain concessions were made to us, which, I don’t remember exactly, I recommend watching the film ...
          1. dvina
            dvina 4 February 2012 23: 58
            0
            I watched the film ... Wishlist and thinkers. The conspiracy theory of 11.09.01/XNUMX/XNUMX looks more convincing at times.
      2. Galina
        Galina 4 February 2012 22: 52
        -3
        nycsson
        I apologize, but I consider your statement to be completely incompetent, because you were not Putin then and do not know why he did this.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 5 February 2012 22: 05
          +1
          So-so! Does this mean you do not deny the fact of the sinking of our boat ??? And the fact that all this was hidden from the people ??? But what to talk with after such words!? A miracle in feathers and only ...
      3. rennim
        rennim 4 February 2012 23: 31
        0
        That's the answer who we have is orange ....
    3. Galina
      Galina 4 February 2012 22: 48
      0
      Mr. sinandju,
      your quote: "But under Putin many of our foreign military bases were closed, including in Cuba and when the Pindos drowned our boat."

      But do not you think that you can be a little shortsighted? Why don’t you remember what Russia was like after EBN? But it is only on the surface. And what were the layouts between our enemies and us that no one will ever voice? This is known only to those who rule the country and no one else ever. Thus, it is entirely conceivable that GDP was forced to go to the closure of bases and other concessions in the name of SAVING Russia, however, being a worthy person, he did not tear his shirt and shout about it for public relations. So, we can give an explanation of his actions in a positive way. Therefore, before blaming the GDP, try to put yourself in its place and at least a little imagine those pitfalls among which he has to move the country, given that none of us knows the most important and most unpleasant, and probably never will.
      1. sinandju
        sinandju 4 February 2012 23: 12
        +1
        It is quite possible, Galina, that is so. Only for my country is it scary of children. Because it may well be your way, and maybe a hundred times worse if it turns out that Putin famously raped us. Here are just a decent alternative to get out of the pit, we will no longer have. The Rubicon will be completed on March 4 and we will not change anything. And Putin has already done plenty of shortcomings, as I already wrote on this thread, and sometimes when viewed from the side of the common people, then wrecking.
        1. ytqnhfk
          ytqnhfk 5 February 2012 06: 36
          +2
          The whole pipe, if not now then never? So you know how the end of the world, it somehow comes all the time but not regularly. Then in 99, then in 2001 then in 2012, and if you choose death right away? So what was waiting for all these 12 years of what tormented ????????????
  • vlademaev
    vlademaev 4 February 2012 20: 34
    -5
    All the media are in Putin’s hands. He heads the 5th column. The task (according to the plan of A. Dulles) is the gradual destruction of education, science, industry (MIC), and, as a result, Russia. Putin is beneficial to the USA and West Europe.
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 4 February 2012 20: 57
      +3
      Quote: vlademaev
      All the media are in Putin’s hands. He heads the 5th column. The task (according to the plan of A. Dulles) is the gradual destruction of education, science, industry (MIC), and, as a result, Russia. Putin is beneficial to the USA and West Europe.

      Fuck, the maximum media in the hands of the Jews (not Jews) and what does the Feisty have to do with it?
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 4 February 2012 21: 18
      0
      Have you also heard about this plan ??? Yes, unfortunately at 90 percent it has been completed today ... I completely agree with you ... And God save our country from this demon ...
      1. dvina
        dvina 4 February 2012 22: 33
        +1
        This plan was 99% fulfilled in 97 ... already customs began to set between the regions ....
        So, if today is 90% ... progressing in person, it was not in vain that Putin presided over and prevailed.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 4 February 2012 22: 46
          -1
          Let me disagree with you! All these percentages, mine and yours, are a rather relative thing, as viewed from our bell tower ...
          1. dvina
            dvina 4 February 2012 23: 14
            +3
            So then your / my interest on reality has little to do with ....
            And by what right are you then pushing such left-wingers to Putin?
            Let's get it specific. Do not languish.
            Population decline from 2000 to 2010?
            GDP decline from 2000 to 2010?
            Decrease in industrial production from 2000 to 2010?
            Reduced wheat exports from 2000 to 2010?
            Increases in imports of agricultural products from 2000 to 2010?
            a decrease in the network of roads from 2000 to 2010?
            Destroyed factories from 2000 to 2010?
            Increased emigration from 2000 to 2010?

            Well, for starters, at least provide the numbers ... Then we will stipulate further.
            1. Chukotka resident
              Chukotka resident 4 February 2012 23: 30
              +2
              dvina,
              And to this Putin, except for the destroyed industry? Achievements are not the way, but the people of the country and oil prices.
              1. dvina
                dvina 5 February 2012 01: 39
                +1
                EEEE did not understand the question? What does it have to do with the death of Kursk, and nothing to do with the growth of GDP? Purely orange logic ... I see here, I don’t see ... It’s easy to probably live with such views .. I don’t know how ...
            2. nycsson
              nycsson 5 February 2012 21: 58
              +1
              Are you from the moon or something ??? Or do you want to tell me that our mortality rate does not exceed the birth rate, that industry is more powerful than in the 91 after the collapse of the USSR, etc., etc. ??? You can compare with a hedgehog in the fog, I immediately apologize for such a comparison, well, how can one be so short-sighted? I will recommend you watch the first channel less, they just show 24 hours a day on it, as everything is fine in our country !!!
      2. rennim
        rennim 4 February 2012 23: 33
        +1
        That's right ... If they choose him in March ... It's all gone
        1. NovoSibirets
          NovoSibirets 5 February 2012 00: 00
          +3
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6tUq0IHVoI
    3. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 5 February 2012 15: 07
      0
      and oil and gas pipelines over the hill more and more
      and Th minus for reality
      im Putin pissed in the eyes of God's dew
  • Charon
    Charon 4 February 2012 20: 37
    +1
    Exceeded, I agree. Only the numbers must be understood correctly.
    Do not think that those who voted against the party in power suddenly loved Putin.
    The protesters realized that orange scum was trying to cling to them and simply did not go to an anti-Russian (not to be confused with an anti-Putin) rally.
    Kurginyan said this at a rally on Poklonnaya Hill. And on this site I said earlier. Not that I uphold my priority, it does not matter. It is important to correctly separate fair protest and anti-national activity.
    I emphasize anti-national, not anti-state. For we will take up the power of the state after we deal with the orange-eyed liberals.
  • slas
    slas 4 February 2012 21: 07
    0
    Charon agrees with you
  • Onegin
    Onegin 4 February 2012 21: 32
    0
    For Putin! For stability! I love Russia!!!
    1. sprut
      sprut 4 February 2012 21: 55
      -2
      Respect !!! I support !!!
      1. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 5 February 2012 15: 16
        +2
        add for Chubais, Serdyukov, Kadyrov’s heroes, oligarchs - do not try to divide the inseparable
    2. rennim
      rennim 4 February 2012 23: 34
      -3
      For RUSSIA and stability without PUTIN and his Pendo government ...
      1. alex-defensor
        alex-defensor 6 February 2012 19: 32
        -1
        You, rennim, quite a fool, or what ?! The Pindos are now doing everything so that Putin does not come to power, so how can his government be called Pindossian ?! Just don’t tell me about the SUPER cunning CIA and MI6, supposedly they came up with such a "screen" - SHOOT, I know not by hearsay (from where exactly, I can not say, but I know for sure).

        Already gave these links:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlxAvfIDqtY&feature=related

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grb1uS0v2xk&feature=related

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZukxgubKUTQ&feature=related

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml-Mu0w4a8k&feature=related

        It's just that I'm already tired of talking about it myself, "I've worn out my fingers", see for yourself.
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 5 February 2012 00: 13
      -1
      I love Russia no less, but I do not share your views! With him, we have no future ...