Russian nuclear submarines will resume continuous combat patrols

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Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky, commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, during a speech at the assembly of the St. Petersburg Maritime Assembly, reported that the Russian fleet in June 2012 would resume continuous combat patrols in the World Ocean with strategic nuclear submarines (nuclear submarine). "June 1, or a little later, continuous combat patrols of strategic missile cruisers will be resumed," he said. "We have been waiting for this for 26 years."

Currently, according to the commander in chief, in the position of the Russian Navy there are noticeable shifts, due to the fact that the country's leadership considers the development of the Navy a priority, ITAR-TASS reports.

“In Severodvinsk, we and the heads of ministries and departments held a very serious event. During the meeting, the ship building program was considered before 2035. The Federation Council and the Duma have long been waiting for this program to be considered,” Vysotsky said. “Several proposals have been prepared. I will not tell you what they are, but, in my opinion, they are true. I will only note that they will allow the construction of ships to be brought to the state level and somewhat “removed” it from the ministerial “nest”.
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    1. alatau_09
      +21
      4 February 2012 11: 05
      It's nice to read such things ... you can feel the revival of former strength and self-confidence ... To the delight of the patriots, to the evil of others ...
      V.V. To Putin - "Keep it up"!
      1. Chukotka resident
        -26
        4 February 2012 11: 23
        alatau_09,
        Key words - they will resume, sail, build, fly, win ... These fables we heard under the name of the 2010 program, but the truth was that someone did not think to be president for the third time.
        1. +15
          4 February 2012 11: 28
          think whatever you want, but shipyards are inundated with orders
          1. alatau_09
            +9
            4 February 2012 11: 38
            Now the main thing is that the terms and quality do not fill up ...
            1. Chukotka resident
              -6
              4 February 2012 11: 52
              Quote: alatau_09

              Now the main thing is that the terms and quality do not fill up ...

              Do not forget about export and civilian programs ...
              1. +4
                4 February 2012 13: 10
                Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                Do not forget about export and civilian programs ...

                Do not ss ... those do not forget ...! drinks
          2. Chukotka resident
            -11
            4 February 2012 11: 50
            kubanec,
            It's just an attempt to "catch up" with time ...
            1. +2
              4 February 2012 14: 12
              dog of Chukotka - I do not understand what you do not like? I want to go in the 90s, when there were not even attempts?

              bark further, the caravan won't stop
            2. 0
              5 February 2012 11: 41
              not an attempt already;)) and you have only stagnation, so envy silently !!!
        2. Aleksey67
          +14
          4 February 2012 11: 28
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          We heard these fables


          Well, we heard a lot of shit with their squeals and screams, and we read a lot of comments like yours, but thank God the self-consciousness of the Russian people wakes up, the economy is growing (it's easy to find numbers on the internet), so your petty provocations are simply ridiculous. Yes, the elections also matter, but still the fleet is reborn and the army is growing stronger, and Putin will win the election with 100% certainty - this was recognized and recognized already in the West.
          PS And it is indecent to hide behind a resident of Chukotka, what is ashamed to call yourself a Ukrainian? And gas is not good to smoke !!! smile
          1. +2
            4 February 2012 11: 42
            so a resident of Chukotka is jealous, he has nothing to be proud of, his economy does not exist at all, potpindos
            1. Chukotka resident
              -9
              4 February 2012 12: 01
              Quote: kubanec

              so a resident of Chukotka is jealous, he has nothing to be proud of, his economy does not exist at all, potpindos

              Is that so? belay
          2. Chukotka resident
            -12
            4 February 2012 11: 59
            Quote: Aleksey67
            but thank God wakes up the self-awareness of the Russian people

            Yes, today everything is at a rally !!!
            Quote: Aleksey67
            growing economy

            Not economics, but oil.
            Quote: Aleksey67
            Putin will win the election with 100% certainty

            Let's see who else will win after all.
            Quote: Aleksey67
            And gas is not good to smoke !!!

            hysterics, the main thing is that Gazprom has failed the construction of gas storages, from which Gazprom is now supplying gas to Europe (this is the topic of flows). The second good news is that oil production in Russia is starting to decline and is very noticeable soon.
            1. Aleksey67
              +3
              4 February 2012 12: 10
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Yes, today everything is at a rally !!!

              There only condoms go there and hamsters. And I won't go to the anti-orange one, it's better to use my "voice" in the elections.

              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Not economics, but oil.

              In addition to hydrocarbons, Russia also exports grain and builds the most modern and reliable nuclear power plants, etc.

              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Let's see who else will win after all.

              What do you care about that? And Putin will win, most of the people for him smile And our "vpopuzitsioneri", unlike a woman with a donut and a pimpled one, will not be able to shit brains

              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              hysterics, the main thing is that Gazprom has failed the construction of gas storages, from which Gazprom is now supplying gas to Europe (this is the topic of flows). The second good news is that oil production in Russia is starting to decline and is very noticeable soon.


              gray mare. Gazprom respects the terms of the contract, but Ukraine ... However, Europe already knows the "reliability" of this transit country. Better tell me how you (Ukraine) in Brazil with the cosmodrome crap wink
              1. ab
                ab
                -6
                4 February 2012 12: 18
                Quote: Aleksey67
                In addition to hydrocarbons, Russia also exports grain and builds the most modern and reliable nuclear power plants, etc.

                Examples of exporting NPPs. Pliz (If it was in a bushel, it was built for 15 years) The project is certainly unique. Remake SIEMENS at Atommash, but besides this, where else was it built?
                1. Aleksey67
                  +5
                  4 February 2012 12: 22
                  Quote: ab
                  Examples of exporting NPPs. Pliz (If it was in a bushel, it was built for 15 years) The project is certainly unique. Remake SIEMENS at Atommash, but besides this, where else was it built?


                  The Belarusian NPP is a project of the type of NPP-2006 for the construction of a nuclear power plant in Belarus 18 kilometers from the urban village of Ostrovets (Grodno region). According to the plans, the first block of nuclear power plants should be introduced in 2017, the second - no later than 2018.

                  The main partner of Belarus in the project for the construction of nuclear power plants is Atomstroyexport (Russia), Belarusian production organizations will act as subcontractors in a certain proportion.

                  “This is confirmed by the foreign contracts of the state holding, - noted Gagarinsky. - Now Russia is successfully implementing several projects for the construction of nuclear power plants abroad. In addition to the Tianwan nuclear power plant, the 1st and 2nd power units of which were put into operation in 2007, the Russian company continues to build two Kudankulam NPP units in India and Bushehr NPP in Iran. Construction of Belene NPP in Bulgaria begins, the contract for which we received through participation in an open tender.

                  “Today, Russian nuclear power plant projects are in high demand, primarily because they meet extremely high safety requirements. By this indicator, we are competitive,” Gagarinsky believes. “However, it should be noted that the cost of building a nuclear power plant will grow, this is due to an increase in energy consumption, constant the increase in raw material prices and the increasing demand for the station. I believe that the increase in prices is expected, justified and will soon occur. "

                  This is offhand from the Internet in 2 minutes wink
                2. alatau_09
                  +7
                  4 February 2012 12: 33
                  Alexey67 and ab,
                  I apologize for interfering, but Russia built all the nuclear power plants of the former CMEA and concluded contracts for building nuclear power plants with the PRC (at least 2), India (4), Turkey (1), Kazakhstan (1) the rest are under negotiation (Vietnam) .. .
                  Russian nuclear power plants are also recognized as world nuclear centers, one of the most reliable in operation ... Recent projects have been worked out taking into account the Chernobyl tragedy and world accidents at nuclear power plants and submarines ...
                  1. Aleksey67
                    +4
                    4 February 2012 12: 40
                    Quote: alatau_09
                    Aleksey67 and ab, I apologize for interfering, but Russia built all the former CMEA nuclear power plants and concluded contracts for building nuclear power plants with the PRC (at least 2), India (4), Turkey (1), Kazakhstan (1) the rest are under negotiation. ..Russian NPPs are also recognized as world nuclear centers, one of the most reliable in operation ... Recent projects have been worked out taking into account the Chernobyl tragedy and world accidents at nuclear power plants and submarines ...


                    Always glad to communicate, especially positive. But AB immediately merges when something goes contrary to his ideas.
                    1. ab
                      ab
                      -4
                      4 February 2012 12: 51
                      Quote: Aleksey67
                      Always glad to communicate, especially positive. But AB immediately merges when something goes contrary to his ideas

                      Is someone bad to read in Russian?
                      CMEA does not count, fell apart 20 years ago. I said built , Russia, not the USSR, which is not clear. The fact that they are one of the most reliable, I have no doubt but built where?
                      1. Aleksey67
                        +8
                        4 February 2012 13: 04
                        Quote: ab
                        Is someone bad to read in Russian? CMEA does not count, fell apart 20 years ago. I said they built it, Russia, not the USSR, which is not clear.


                        Above post:
                        Now Russia is successfully implementing several projects for the construction of nuclear power plants abroad. In addition to the Tianwan NPP, the 1st and 2nd power units of which were commissioned in 2007, the Russian company continues construction of two units of the Kudankulam nuclear power plant in India and the Bushehr nuclear power plant in Iran. The construction of the Belene NPP in Bulgaria begins, the contract for which we received through participation in an open tender. "
                        The Belarusian NPP is a project of the type of NPP-2006 for the construction of a nuclear power plant in Belarus 18 kilometers from the urban village of Ostrovets (Grodno region). According to the plans, the first block of nuclear power plants should be introduced in 2017, the second - no later than 2018.

                        Maybe someone is reading poorly good news for Russia? winked
                        1. ab
                          ab
                          -3
                          4 February 2012 13: 24
                          Quote: Aleksey67
                          Maybe someone is reading bad news for Russia badly.

                          The Tianwan Nuclear Power Plant (Tianwan NPP) is located in China, in the village of Tianwan, 30 km east of the city of Lianyungang in Jiangsu Province, on the shores of the Yellow Sea. Tianwan NPP is the largest object of economic cooperation with Russia. In September 2011, two units were built and put into operation and a contract was signed for the construction of two more units, in general, the general plan of this nuclear power plant provides for the construction of 8 power units
                          I did not know, sorry fellow
                        2. Aleksey67
                          +3
                          4 February 2012 13: 29
                          Quote: ab
                          I did not know, sorry


                          You're welcome lol And Russia’s grain export has significantly increased and sugar production has reached full self-sufficiency, and this is a matter of economic security
                      2. alatau_09
                        +3
                        4 February 2012 13: 16
                        ab, actually, I had a higher opinion of you, but it turned out that you did not go far in your "desert" ...
                        the manner of conducting a "dialogue" among all those present here is "he-he-he" incubator-miserable, a quote-under-coat, a quote-under-coat, a stupid cliché question-twisting instead of an intelligible answer of a man ... are they capable of anything more of their own? "investigator" you are our ...
                        hmmm ..., representative, people ... nothing to talk about with you, predictable ab ...
                        1. ab
                          ab
                          -3
                          4 February 2012 15: 12
                          Quote: alatau_09
                          manners of conducting a "dialogue" among all those present here "he-he-he" incubator-miserable, quotation-hooded, quotation-hooded

                          This is the manner of this site. Howling with wolves
                        2. Auschwitz
                          +1
                          4 February 2012 15: 15
                          Quote: ab
                          This is the manner of this site. Howling with wolves

                          You do not philosophize bot Bandera ... wink
                        3. -1
                          4 February 2012 23: 09
                          HE IS NOT A BANDERA; HE IS ISRAELIAN.
                        4. -1
                          4 February 2012 23: 07
                          And ANY BILEBURD to persecute? THESE MANNERS OF CITIZENS OF ISRAEL, WHICH DO YOU COPY SUCCESSFULLY AT AMERICOS?
            2. +1
              4 February 2012 12: 23
              Why are you happy? You, apparently, live in Russia. Or the worse we have, the better for you?
            3. -1
              4 February 2012 22: 55
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              . The second good news is that oil production in Russia is starting to decline and is very noticeable soon.

              ALSO YOU THEN EXACTLY WITH A Naked ZHZOPPA turn out, FOR THE FIRST THIS AND FEEL.
          3. sevas
            -4
            4 February 2012 12: 52
            Things are good.
            But she slipped even more to the raw !!!
            And if the oil "collapses", as under Brezhnev, then what?
            1. guessed
              +1
              4 February 2012 13: 04
              It will not collapse, it will most likely grow. At the time of Brezhnev, oil was just oil. And now oil is providing the dollar.
              Oil prices will drop sharply, releasing a few hundred yards of dollars, and where will they be and how will this affect the global financial system? The crisis of 2008 will seem like a holiday.
            2. Aleksey67
              +1
              4 February 2012 13: 31
              Quote: sevas
              But it slipped even more towards the raw material level !!! And if oil "collapses", as under Brezhnev, what then?


              But for this, Russia is undergoing a refinery modernization program and more and more products are being transferred to the domestic market
        3. alatau_09
          +4
          4 February 2012 11: 34
          "Inhabitant of Chukotka", there is nothing to talk to pseudo-inhabitants of Chukotka ..., the concepts are different ...
          1. Aleksey67
            +7
            4 February 2012 11: 57
            Quote: alatau_09
            "Inhabitant of Chukotka", there is nothing to talk to pseudo-inhabitants of Chukotka ..., the concepts are different ...


            Maybe at the subcortex level, he dreams of being a "resident of Alaska", but at school, instead of geography, he studied the biography of S. Bandera? wink
        4. vadimus
          +2
          4 February 2012 12: 39
          And you Thomas in permafrost ... Stay cool ...
        5. +4
          4 February 2012 13: 08
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          Keywords - they will resume, sail, build, fly, win ... These fables we heard under the name 2010 program, but the truth was that someone did not think to be president for the third time

          Until recently, at the same time, they talked about "Bulava", "Shells", "Yars", "Triumphs", etc. ... fool
        6. ytqnhfk
          +3
          4 February 2012 13: 38
          The frostbitten young man will start screaming again how many BILLION DOLLARS are worth! DO NOT ENVY WE WILL DO IT WEAK TO YOU?
        7. +2
          4 February 2012 17: 55
          The tactics of CONTINUOUS combat patrols were developed in the USSR in 1964. when in order to counter the 6th US fleet and the 16th naval squadron in the Mediterranean, operational brigades were formed, and then mixed squadrons from ships of the Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets. This was due to the fact that since 1949 the 6th fleet of the United States has been in the Mediterranean zone to maintain a favorable political regime for the United States in the countries of this region and in its readiness to launch carrier-based strikes against targets in the southern regions of the USSR.
          Each US nuclear-powered missile submarine has two replacement crews: Gold and Blue; the time spent on the submarine is six months. Its annual cycle consists of combat patrols (244 days), rest and preparation of the boat and crew for going to sea (121 days). Based on the autonomy for each type of boats, the cycle of one campaign on combat patrol is determined, which is 84 days, of which 28 days - preparation of the submarine and 56 days - combat patrols in designated areas with readiness to launch missiles for 15 minutes. The missiles are launched from a depth of 25-30 m and at a boat speed of 2,5 knots.
          In 1964-1967 annually, a schedule of combat service was compiled at the General Staff of the Navy by region: Mediterranean Sea (Black Sea Fleet, Baltic Fleet, Northern Fleet), North Atlantic (Northern Fleet, Baltic Fleet), Pacific and Indian Oceans (Pacific Pacific Fleet), indicating the timing and number of ships allocated from fleets. The increased capabilities of the potential adversary to organize a surprise attack from ocean and sea directions using both nuclear and conventional weapons required the Navy leadership to search for new ways to improve the use of fleet forces and ways to maintain their high combat readiness.
          The main task of the Navy since 1964 was the prevention of a surprise attack by the enemy and the maximum weakening of his first attacks from sea and ocean directions. Therefore, objectively, the need arose for the early deployment of part of the Navy’s combat-ready forces in remote areas of the oceans and seas for their immediate use immediately after the outbreak of hostilities. The military forces were part of the forces of the shock group for naval operations. Therefore, the combat service forces had to establish tracking of the enemy and issue target designation to the CP fleet and CP strike units, missile-carrying aircraft and nuclear submarines for their guidance for the purpose of using or tracking weapons

          So there’s no need to invent anything. Everything has already been worked out and invented. It is only necessary to have the right number of submarines and trained crews.

          Who cares, you can read “The Battle of the Oceans in the Cold and Future Wars,” Ivan Kapitanets at http://readr.ru/ivan-kapitanec-bitva-za-mirovoy-okean-v-holodnoy-i-buduschih-voy
          nah.html? page = 83 #
          1. +2
            4 February 2012 18: 12
            In 1979, for the first time in the history of our Navy (and so far the only time) in the Mediterranean Sea, an aircraft carrier formation (AUS) of the 5th Navy Squadron was formed as part of the Kiev, Minsk and TAVKR (followed from the Black Sea Fleet to the permanent base at the Pacific Fleet) and 16 guard ships. Under the flag of Vice Admiral Valentin Selivanov, the squadron commander (later admiral, chief of the Navy's General Staff), the ACS proceeded “with a roar” throughout the Mediterranean Sea to Gibraltar, conducting various exercises, practicing the actions of ships and carrier-based aircraft. It was a demonstration of the worldwide fighting power of the surface component of the general forces of our fleet. The squadron also held several joint exercises with the Navy of Syria and the Egyptian Airborne Landing Command.
      2. +10
        4 February 2012 12: 08
        It was high time. Thank God the country came to an end, and it was terrible to contemplate the degree of mass antipatriotic psychosis ...

        12 years after Putin came from the complete Yeltsin collapse of the country, the period of external control, which brought Russia to the brink of destruction as a state, and with the constant opposition of the "5th column", and with active pressure flocks of "friends" called NATO ...?!? And if we add to this the moral decline of the population (regarding the qualities of a Soviet citizen), a general tendency to theft and crime ...

        I’ll tell you friends, the result is very impressive !!! And those who say that Putin is not a great leader-are lying, and NAPLO !!!

        It is clear what the bastards are fighting for ...
        1. +2
          4 February 2012 13: 17
          alex-defensor,
          You are growing before our eyes, buddy, which is very nice! No offense - remember your "hard-hitting" comments to the authorities! It was doubly insulting that on the avatar there was such a good "gun"! I am pleased to support this post! good
          1. 0
            4 February 2012 20: 44
            Respected esaul, You correctly confused me with someone, I have been for Putin since the middle of his second presidential term ... you can re-read all my comments.

            And not just like that, "for him" I also conduct agitation and explanatory work at every opportunity.
    2. +11
      4 February 2012 11: 06
      The good news is, it's time for the aircraft carrier killers to start sailing the world's oceans.
      1. grizzlir
        +3
        4 February 2012 11: 11
        Strategic missile cruisers have slightly different tasks than killer aircraft carriers.
        1. +4
          4 February 2012 11: 20
          and yet against the AUG, nuclear missile carriers, in my opinion, are by far the most effective means.
          1. grizzlir
            +2
            4 February 2012 11: 58
            I’ll put it more simply, on the example of aviation, you messed up strategic with fighter. About PLARK and there was no word in the article, we are talking about SSBN-RPKSN. In the sense that Russian SSBN is the main means of combating AUG, I completely agree with you.
        2. 0
          4 February 2012 13: 19
          Quote: grizzlir
          Strategic missile cruisers have slightly different tasks than killer aircraft carriers

          Their task is to cool the heated brains of the world invaders in the person of Podpindosnaya and Co., which they have successfully done and are doing! am
      2. Chukotka resident
        -6
        4 February 2012 11: 24
        Quote: OstWind
        The good news is, it's time for the aircraft carrier killers to start sailing the world's oceans.

        Where boats float, aircraft carriers are somehow not very ...
        1. +5
          4 February 2012 11: 42
          Not boats are floating. Something is floating in the hole. As you always crawl out of shit. It’s not time to understand that your hatred of everything can have certain limits.
    3. and1975
      +3
      4 February 2012 11: 08
      so it’s so yes again late ... This time the pidzets crept very noticeably smile
    4. Vrangel
      +8
      4 February 2012 11: 09
      That's right, ships and boats should not rust at berths.
    5. Aleksey67
      +5
      4 February 2012 11: 11
      Well, finally, damn nice. After all, being at the berth it is impossible to properly improve combat training and, what is equally important, equipment and weapons.
    6. +3
      4 February 2012 11: 11
      The hero wakes up ...
    7. Sokol peruna
      +2
      4 February 2012 11: 41
      The SF may possibly be able to resume continuous combat patrols with 5 combat-ready strategists, pr. 667 BDRM. At the Pacific Fleet 3 strategists pr.667 BDR, each of which over 30 is unlikely.
      1. guessed
        +3
        4 February 2012 12: 00
        This year, the first of the Boreans will leave for the Far East .. Slightly balance out the balance ...
    8. NovoSibirets
      +7
      4 February 2012 11: 43
      Continuous duty of "strategists" is a guarantee of a retaliatory nuclear strike! And hence the guarantee that the "really bad guys" will think seven times and eventually change their minds.
      I must admit, I thought that continuous watch was with us at the moment! That's soooo ... It's not great.
      1. +2
        4 February 2012 14: 13
        NovoSibirets,
        all right, combat patrols increase the likelihood of a retaliatory strike at times, very good news fellow
    9. +4
      4 February 2012 11: 48
      The main thing is that everything conceived is fulfilled. And it often happens with us - we crowed and forgot. And Putin didn’t decide. The situation in the world itself is pushing for such decisions. It’s high time. Or maybe the elections have been spurred. But anyway, who started. The main thing is not to stop halfway.
      1. Chukotka resident
        -5
        4 February 2012 12: 10
        Quote: AleksUkr

        The main thing is that everything conceived is fulfilled

        Here is another confirmation of rationality and "you can only believe in Russia" ...
        Quote: AleksUkr
        And it often happens with us - we crowed and forgot.

        But experience causes dialectics in their heads.
        Quote: AleksUkr
        The main thing is not to stop halfway.

        In 1991, and did not sit even more on the oil needle ... lol
        1. NovoSibirets
          0
          4 February 2012 13: 02
          ____________ bully
    10. +5
      4 February 2012 12: 12
      guys, what do you want, for ten years of deliberate collapse of the fleet, not to break it down. until everything is fine, corruption is also bandits in all spheres of activity + Anglo-Saxon agents + traitors to the motherland sent from the west. Under such conditions, we still manage to then produce and demonstrate at least small but growth - WITH US GOD AND WE WILL WIN !!!!!!!
    11. Nechai
      +3
      4 February 2012 12: 31
      Quote: kubanec
      in such conditions, we still manage to produce something and demonstrate at least small but growth - WITH US GOD AND WE WILL WIN! !!!!!!!

      "+++++" And one more thing: The Russian Navy WILL HAVE SLEEPED, SIMILAR crews. They will be able to master the skills, techniques, experience that was accumulated in the Soviet Pod.Plava, not without difficulty and problems, of course. There are too few left in the ranks of those who know, know how, or at least know theoretically. There should be no gap between generations. And having mastered the previous experience, they will create their own. Tyumka, that is, no one will take it away from us. Amer threw money into SOSUS, thought they fenced themselves off from the Russians. Yeah, our lads have left them more than once and continue to "suck" collectively.
    12. sanyarusian
      +6
      4 February 2012 12: 35
      A resident of Chukotka, but didn’t sign up like something: Russian, Russian, etc.? But you can immediately see that you are a resident of Chukotka. Bandera horseradish
      1. Aleksey67
        +7
        4 February 2012 12: 38
        Quote: Sanyarusian
        a resident of Chukotka but didn’t sign up like something: Russian, Russian, etc.?

        Be lenient to a person who is ashamed that he is Ukrainian wink
        1. +2
          4 February 2012 13: 23
          Quote: Aleksey67
          Be lenient to a person who is ashamed that he is Ukrainian

          Perfectly noticed, Alex! Greetings and good luck! drinks
    13. ab
      ab
      -7
      4 February 2012 12: 37
      Quote: Sanyarusian
      in such conditions, we still manage to produce something and demonstrate at least small but growth - WITH US GOD AND WE WILL WIN! !!!!!!!

      Not God, but GDP, so you are in such conditions
      1. 0
        4 February 2012 13: 06
        and so it’s precisely the gdp is also growing in spite of our pseudo-friends and appendages of historical roots to all kinds of zapadents
      2. Aleksey67
        +1
        4 February 2012 13: 08
        Quote: ab
        Not God, but GDP, so you are in such conditions

        Thank God that it’s not EBN, and thanks to GDP we are further from that horror. Perhaps you are a schoolboy and do not remember the rampant democracy in the 90s?
        1. ab
          ab
          -1
          4 February 2012 13: 13
          Quote: Aleksey67
          Thank God that it’s not EBN, and thanks to GDP we are further from that horror. Perhaps you are a schoolboy and do not remember the rampant democracy in the 90s

          Well EBN, can not a priori, unless it is resurrected. I know well about 90. In the 90s there was no rampant democracy, but anarchy. And GDP has been in power for 12 years, more than a decent period. By the way, the student I have a son (or rather a student at the university), and sorry, the eldest daughter is already 23 (children grow up) laughing
          1. Azazel
            0
            4 February 2012 16: 42
            Quote: ab
            By the way, the student I have a son

            If this were so, then this garbage:
            Quote: ab
            already 12 years in power, more than a decent term

            you would not write.
    14. master joker
      0
      4 February 2012 13: 00
      No one knows by chance how things are going with Project 941, and will these boats patrol the world's oceans? I was interested in this in connection with Rogozin’s statement that the 3rd generation Apple will not be disposed of http://www.itar-tass.com/c96/333009.html
    15. sevas
      -4
      4 February 2012 13: 03
      gentlemen! talk to submariners and they will tell you everything.
      They did not forgive KURSK GDP.
      must be judged by the results.
      and we’ve been hearing promises for 12 years.
      if not for the increase in oil prices, it is not known what they would do now!
      1. guessed
        +2
        4 February 2012 13: 43
        I communicate often enough ... ZP KP1 in 1999 was 4000 rubles and at least they began to pay it regularly ... At that rate, this is less than 200 dead presidents ... You can google today’s sn. And they pay it very regularly.
        GDP to Kursk has no relation whatsoever and anyone who is connected with the submarine fleet knows this.
        Figuratively speaking, the GDP pulled the trigger, but it was not he who pulled it and he had no choice. In 1999, exercises began after a long break in the field and at sea.
        In addition to Kursk, there were crashed planes, collided helicopters and a lot of other things, and the fault was the politics of the 90s. "Thank you" EBN and his team ..
        1. sevas
          -2
          4 February 2012 13: 53
          s / board, I agree!
          EBN is still that enemy.
          but the boys could be saved.
          but then everyone would know the truth.
          and donated by the sailors.
          and quickly the boat was cut, sweeping tracks!
          1. guessed
            0
            4 February 2012 14: 30
            The boat was not quickly cut. She was visited by my acquaintances, who served as a radio operator in Kursk, in the very first crew. So we would not like to hide and raise them.
            I already wrote recently ... I can once again.
            The reactor is muffled, the batteries are destroyed, the air supply system does not work, it is dark, cold, the water arrives ..... How long could survivors survive in such a situation in the aft compartments? A clock ... most likely ... I think that by the time the rescue capsule tried to dock with Kursk for the first time, no one was alive. Water temperature +3 ... even trained people can’t stand it for more than an hour at this temperature ... Hypothermia.
            Kursk’s destruction was too great for the crew to survive. The floor of the boat’s hull was actually destroyed. This is clearly seen on the rollers when the Kursk was delivered to the dock.
            1. 0
              4 February 2012 23: 22
              WITH SUCH DESTRUCTIONS, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS TO THE CAPSULE AT ALL DESIRES. ETERNAL MEMORY TO MARRIAGE BROTHERS!
    16. alatau_09
      +1
      4 February 2012 13: 03
      Quote: ab
      Not God, but GDP, so you are in such conditions


      It seems not stupid, but you need to know God - it is always written with a capital letter.
      or was the intent?
      1. NovoSibirets
        +3
        4 February 2012 13: 10
        In fairness, uv. alatau_09 , in Russian it is allowed to spell the word "God" with both a capital and a lowercase letter, depending on the context.
        1. alatau_09
          +1
          4 February 2012 13: 35
          Quote: kubanec
          GOD AND WE WILL WIN WITH US !!!!!!!


          Quote: ab
          Not God, but GDP, so you are in such conditions


          I think in this context with a remark, I'm right ...

          You, NovoSibirets, + and have a good weekend.
          1. NovoSibirets
            +2
            4 February 2012 14: 09
            Quote: alatau_09
            I think in this context with the remark I am right

            Absolutely. In this case, the word "God" is written with a capital letter!

            Quote: alatau_09
            You, NovoSibirets, + and have a good weekend.

            And you.
      2. +3
        4 February 2012 13: 27
        Quote: alatau_09
        It seems not stupid, but you need to know God - it is always written with a capital letter.
        or was the intent?

        He just knocks on the keyboard with a pig's patch and hooves! haven't you noticed - the "resident of Chukotka" has no resemblance to human reasoning! smile
        1. NovoSibirets
          0
          4 February 2012 14: 25
          Yesaul, yes he is normal! )))

          Just as a Slav, one of the not very good qualities of our brother is inherent in him! Remember how the classic said:

          "A man that is a bull:
          In the head is a whim -
          By Kolom her out
          You will not knock out:
          Everyone stands their ground! "

          So he, vtemyash in his head violent, that he is the "Horseman of the anti-Russian apocalypse" on a white horse! And he scratches his head, sick one! To windmills, with a virtual spear. Not realizing in principle that he is engaged in the struggle of the Nanai boys, the struggle with himself, that is ... But somewhere in his subconscious this thought knocks on his real life, from which he rages with such a force that I can drink with myself does not see.
          We need to love him. Good in the shower. Somewhere very deep ...))

          IMHO of course. Provided that he has no more material grounds for this.
      3. ab
        ab
        -5
        4 February 2012 13: 27
        Quote: alatau_09
        God is always written with a capital letter.

        The main thing is that GDP with large
        1. NovoSibirets
          +3
          4 February 2012 14: 11
          Quote: ab
          The main thing is that GDP with large

          Nuuuuu .., this is an abbreviation! A priori with a capital letter. You are well done!!! )))
    17. +1
      4 February 2012 13: 06
      Great news, the presence in the oceans on an ongoing basis of one of the components of the Russian nuclear triad is buzzing. May luck be with our submariners and 7 feet under the keel ...
    18. -2
      4 February 2012 13: 46
      Well, and how many strategists are able to bring the Russian Navy on alert?
      1. +3
        4 February 2012 14: 20
        pistons,
        even one boat is enough to deter, and in real life, I think, there will be at least three
        1. NovoSibirets
          +2
          4 February 2012 14: 32
          Well .., this is probably subject to the inefficiency of the US continental missile defense. And if they can bring it to mind? One can’t get off alone.
          1. +2
            4 February 2012 19: 44
            NovoSibirets,
            when launched from the Western Atlantic or the Caribbean, no current missile defense system can react
        2. -4
          4 February 2012 14: 55
          Extremely few .. some show off and not containment.
        3. +1
          4 February 2012 23: 33
          Quote: Old Rocketman

          even one boat is enough to deter, and in real life, I think, there will be at least three

          I THINK MORE. KSF will provide, KTOP, SHIP ON FIVE-SIX, DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS. STRATEGIES WILL BE EXACTLY, Rather, ON TWO CRUISERS TO CHANGE.
      2. guessed
        +3
        4 February 2012 14: 33
        Enough to guarantee the destruction of a potential enemy! wink
        Can you still lay out a duty schedule?
        1. -2
          4 February 2012 14: 59
          It is naive to think that a likely opponent will play giveaways. wink
          1. guessed
            +3
            4 February 2012 15: 05
            It’s naive to think that our submarines will shoot from an overwater position wink
            1. -2
              4 February 2012 15: 17
              So what? from this they become invulnerable?
              1. +6
                4 February 2012 19: 47
                pistons,
                The main task of the Strategic Missile Forces and SSBNs is to shoot, not survive, that's what they pay us for
                1. -2
                  4 February 2012 23: 53
                  There is confidence ... that they will not drown before launch?
                  And if there is. Explain where it comes from ..
    19. Auschwitz
      +1
      4 February 2012 15: 20
      With the deployment of a pendostan missile defense system on the territory of its slaves, only Our powerful submarine fleet can deter American bandits from the desire to destroy the entire Human Civilization wink
    20. Knowing
      0
      4 February 2012 15: 38
      Iran launched new naval exercises in the Strait of Hormuz
    21. pravuncac
      0
      4 February 2012 17: 18
      Nearly thirty year old BDMs?
      There will be one more "Kursk".
      1. +1
        4 February 2012 20: 12
        pravuncac,
        no need to judge the fleet and the Armed Forces by newspaper publications and speeches of "Soldiers' Mothers", and the accident rate is higher, and significantly, just on new equipment, and ships are no exception, the sailor must live at sea, and not on the shore, then there will be accidents less.
        1. +1
          4 February 2012 21: 18
          The main task of the Strategic Missile Forces and SSBNs is to shoot, not survive, - a familiar task I urgent in Strategic Missile Forces passed 97-99
        2. 0
          4 February 2012 23: 52
          Quote: Old Rocketman
          , A sailor should live in the sea, and not on the coast, then there will be less accidents.

          TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. ONLY skills training IMMEDIATELY outs in the SEA EXPLORATION MAT PART IN THE approached to fighting, meet the requirements for damage control SHIP ensure the successful solution of tactical problems to protect our interests on the world stage will raise the country's prestige, and the very reviving our submarine fleet to cool HOT HEADS OF OUR SUGGESTED BONDS.
    22. suharev-52
      +1
      4 February 2012 21: 17
      Well, thank goodness is another good news. When patrolling the nuclear submarines, crew coherence is worked out, experience of combat duty during a campaign appears, and algorithms for actions in emergency situations are developed. Good luck to all submariners of Russia. And so that always the number of exits matches the number of returns.

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