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Transcarpathia intends to build a "trump wall" in relations with Kiev

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According to the newspaper "Look» bill about recognizing the exclusivity of the Ukrainian language causes discontent among the public of the regions of the country with their ethnic characteristics.

As the former mayor of Uzhgorod, Sergey Ratushnyak, stated, “this is the path to confrontation and confrontation. If Kiev continues to promote such laws, then we (the Transcarpathian region) will have nothing left but to build the walls of the Crimean, Donbass, Chernivtsi, Odessa and Lviv districts and isolate themselves from the hated Kiev government in the style of Trump. ” The initiators of the bill, S. Ratushnyak called "Bandera", which in the realities of modern Ukraine is actually praise.



Separatist sentiments in the Transcarpathian region are a constant headache of Kiev. In March, 2015, the congress of Ruthenian organizations in Transcarpathia adopted a statement of intent to seek recognition from the Ukrainian authorities of Ruthenian nationality and autonomy of Subcarpathian Russia. In May, 2015 of the year, representatives of Transcarpathian Rusyns staged a rally outside the presidential administration building in Kiev, demanding to recognize the results of the 1991 referendum and grant Transcarpathian region a status similar to that granted to the Donbas by the Minsk agreements. In December, 2016, the Transcarpathian Ruthenians declared their intention to pursue their national autonomy by recognizing the results of the corresponding referendum held in 1991.
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  1. himRa
    himRa 31 January 2017 10: 40
    +5
    Hutsuls are still separs they have not yet shown their capabilities
    1. cniza
      cniza 31 January 2017 10: 41
      +21
      Everything goes to the situation "walk - field" and it will not be fun at all.
      1. himRa
        himRa 31 January 2017 10: 44
        +8
        Information:
        Due to its geographical isolation, the Hutsuls, like many highlanders, were able to preserve in their culture and customs the ancient Slavic features long lost by the inhabitants of the valleys, and even more so, of the cities.

        Geographically, the Hutsul region includes the mountain regions of the Eastern Carpathians (and the upper reaches of the Black and White Cheremosh, Prut, Black and White Tisza rivers), which are part of the Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi and Transcarpathian regions of modern Ukraine. The Hutsul region includes the modern Kosovo and Verkhovyna districts of the Ivano-Frankivsk region, the Rakhiv region of Transcarpathia and the western parts of the Chernivtsi region, part of the Hutsul region is located in Romania, Poland and Slovakia. The territory of the Hutsul region in Ukraine is 6,5 thousand square meters. km
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 31 January 2017 10: 47
          +8
          Raheem, hello! hi Horseradish symptoms, gentlemen. Petyunya confidently drives Ukraine to collapse into specific principalities ...
          1. himRa
            himRa 31 January 2017 10: 50
            +17
            Hello Pasha! Now you can’t do anything, the process is running and it will reach its logical end! Interested in the collapse of Ukraine all
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 31 January 2017 11: 13
              +5
              Quote from the article
              Transcarpathian Rusyns announced their intention to achieve their national autonomy by recognizing the results of the corresponding referendum held in 1991.
              Well, this is all nonsense - complete utopia! Where is 1991 year - and where is 2017 year? It’s possible to kill Kiev with this, of course, but you cannot get something from it!
              provide Transcarpathian region with a status similar to that granted to Donbass by the Minsk agreements

              And they saw the "implementation" by Kiev of the Minsk agreements in the Donbass? Probably, they did not see that Kiev was asking the MOST!
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 31 January 2017 12: 22
                +2
                In general, words about Ruthenian autonomy sound strange, not only Rusyns live there either. There are Hungarians, and Russians, the same Ukrainians, and all sorts of other Hutsuls ...
              2. himRa
                himRa 31 January 2017 12: 35
                +2
                Quote: Tatiana
                Well, this is all nonsense - complete utopia! Where is 1991 - and where is 2017?

                A rash assertion, historical memory is difficult to exterminate, and the Rusyns remember the genocide that unleashed archery archers as part of the Austro-Hungarian empire
                Read the topic too, I think you will change your point of view ...
                sources:
                https://ruposters.ru/news/19-02-2015/galichanskay
                a-tragediya-xronika-pervogo-genocida-russkix-na-u
                kraine
                https://nstarikov.ru/blog/39251?print=print
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 31 January 2017 16: 39
                  +6
                  himRa
                  A rash assertion, historical memory is difficult to exterminate, and the Rusyns remember the genocide that unleashed archery archers as part of the Austro-Hungarian empire

                  Do not confuse the reasons for requesting autonomy in 1991 and 2016 years !!!
                  The pro-American Jewish juntish leadership in Kiev wanted to spit on the historical memory of the peoples in Ukraine! They have their own methods.


                  And now, the Russians are also asking for their autonomy because of the total imposition of the Ukrainian "mob" by the junting authorities.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 31 January 2017 17: 00
                    +6
                    Everything related to Donbass applies to Rusyns! Simply put, in the end, it applies to all so-called "goyim"! and by and large called Jewish fascism!
                    So let's call a spade a spade, and not go aside!
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 31 January 2017 17: 04
                      +9
                      Here they are the Jewish pro-American (Obama) rulers of the junting Ukraine!
                      1. himRa
                        himRa 1 February 2017 05: 27
                        +3
                        I read, I read you and did not understand what the objection is! Okay, I’ll catch on this phrase so far:
                        Do not confuse the reasons for requesting autonomy in 1991 and 2016 years !!!

                        The reasons for the desire for autonomy from Ukraine are one and the same! Rusyns understand that forced Ukrainization threatens them (as a nationality)
                        Ruthenian culture needs guardianship and protection. Due to the lack of a strong Ruthenian lobby in the Ukrainian official structures (the appearance of such a lobby is not possible in advance), Ruthenians are forced to maintain their originality at the everyday level. For more, they lack neither freedom of action nor institutional capacity. The Ukrainian authorities are striving for the marginalization of Rusynism, but this will be an artificial phenomenon, instilled with criminal administrative methods. With what the Rusyns themselves do not agree, they even wrote a letter to the Russian Federation V.V.

                        I agree with your other statements and therefore
                        Russia could support the Ruthenian culture and language, as Hungary does. Ruthenian culture is not fully represented in the Ukrainian-language and Russian-language information space. Most Ukrainian citizens do not know anything about its existence. It is in Russia's interests to help bring the Ruthenian question out of the information shadow, so that this topic is constantly present in the information field, and in different formats - political, cultural, theological, etc.

                        From personal experience, I add that the problem of Ruthenians and Hungarians was raised even during the USSR! I personally witnessed this!
                  2. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 1 February 2017 22: 55
                    +4

                    The pro-American Jewish juntish leadership in Kiev wanted to spit on the historical memory of the peoples in Ukraine! They have their own methods.

                    A good-kind person ... If only this mug can be called a person ....
                2. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 2 February 2017 03: 11
                  +1
                  himRa
                  I read, I read you and did not understand what the objection was!
                  Russia could come out with support for the Ruthenian culture and language, as Hungary does.

                  You do not understand me because we use different logical methods of thinking in relation to national issues regarding the construction of a multinational state. You use the metaphysical method of thinking, and I am the dialectical materialistic method. Logically, diamat is more perfect than metaphysics. The diamat has more logical principles. It is necessary to put into practice the dialectical-materialistic principle of "ascent from the ONE to the GENERAL and the UNIVERSAL through the SPECIAL".
                  Imagine a pyramid. At its base are different peoples inhabiting the territory of this multinational country. Between these peoples there is a relationship, so to speak, on a horizontal level. The state only at the horizontal level, in principle, does not exist and cannot exist. But in order for them to unite in a single state, they need a vertical of power, which will supranationally from the top of the pyramid will lead all these peoples.
                  Each nation identifies itself as a single entity, separate from all other nations. We will take every nation for a certain social unit of measurement - conditionally ONE. How to create a common non-collapsing whole (state) from a set of these ONEs - we will call the conditionally UNIVERSAL. Only through the SPECIAL, which is available in each ONE and is delegated "up" to the common boiler! There can be many of these SPECIALS, but the main one is the language that everyone understands and in which the development of the economy as a whole throughout the country is carried out. Thanks to this, not only horizontal, but also vertical economic ties are realized. Those. state language required. But this language should be native to the majority of the population. Otherwise, there is violence and aggression of the minority over the majority.
                  When they introduce the Ukrainian mov - the language of minority - to the rank of the state language and at the same time prohibit the Russian language in Ukraine, this means only one thing that people with the Russian language are rejected from managing public means of production and are removed from government. This is an occupational coup in the country by a national minority to seize power in the country by one of the infuriated national minorities. But it can also be only a supranational instrument of EXTERNAL GOVERNANCE of Ukraine for its disintegration and dismemberment, as such and its colonization by third parties.
                  Therefore, Russians need not only to advocate for the rights of the Russians, but also for the rights of ALL units of peoples in Ukraine, however, just like the rest of the nations, they must advocate for the rights of Russians. Russians must also advocate for the rights of Russians. Enraged zapadentsev therefore it is necessary either to separate from the state or to expel all their evil spirits outside the territory of Ukraine, but it is better to destroy. In other words, Bandera must be destroyed. Then Ukraine and the friendship of peoples will remain.
                  And your metaphysical method works only on a horizontal level and does not solve either the cause of the crisis or the way out of it in / in Ukraine. That is the difference in our vision of the problem. Russian Rusyns should protect, but there are no Russian Rusyns. So you get it. I do not agree with this in principle. You absolutize the privileges of small nations over the Russian people. While this is in the details, but then it translates into the chauvinism of national minorities in front of the Russian people as a state of the forming people. The Russian question has been standing since 1917 of the year thanks to the policies of Lenin and the Trotskyists. And now in Ukraine we are reaping the benefits of this policy.
                  You see, you are stuck on a horizontal level when you advocate transferring to the common cauldron such characteristics of national characteristics of peoples that other peoples do not have. For example, wearing Muslim hijabs in a secular public school of the Russian Federation. This is not a feature that mono delegate as common to the formation and preservation of a multinational state.
                  At the same time, the Russian Federation does not correctly introduce its armed forces into Ukraine; for this, there are still no guarantee conditions for a peaceful settlement of the Russian national issue in Ukraine. In this case, there will be big losses on both sides.
                  All the peoples of Ukraine must realize that the strength of Ukraine and its economic power are still not in the Bendery zapadents, but in the Russian people and the alliance with it, as well as the alliance with Russia. Otherwise, their future results in Ukraine will be disastrous.
                  1. himRa
                    himRa 2 February 2017 11: 36
                    +2
                    Sorry, I see no objection in fact there is an attempt but a greater degree of care ....
                    I just understand (I’m using your concepts) if you are trying to explain / convince me something, but you are ... pretending that you don’t understand lol
                    Let me remind you the theme: Transcarpathia intends to build a wall in relation to Kiev
                    Objective: To neutralize a hostile state called Ukraine
                    there is no doubt that it is hostile: two Chechen, 2008 Georgian-Russian war, the sale of weapons to the Middle East to our enemies, well ... the rejection of ,, the Russian world ,, laughing
                    is accepted?
                    we move on if you can’t win here and then it is decided in parts and over time
                    For example, the federalization of Ukraine, the next stage is dissatisfaction with the subjects of the center - the collapse and the inability to function, and the last stage is the addition of debris to the neighbors ...
                    Divide and conquer .... cynical, yes ... but we are not based on emotions but on our interests ... are we?
                    Question: do you have to agree if you intended to send troops?
                    Losses are not needed, they can lead to the collapse of the Russian Federation .. there is no point in risking ...
                    In the previous post, I just proposed to unite with the Hungarians to defend the rights of Hungarians and Ruthenians. What's wrong again?
                    uh .. horizontal thinking laughing you repeated this word as many as 6 times specially calculated statistics know if not a bad science ...
                    You absolutize the privileges of small nations over the Russian people. While this is in the details, but then it translates into the chauvinism of national minorities in front of the Russian people as a state of the forming people.

                    Not at all, and moreover, I do not consider the Russian state a forming people!
                    I can explain if you listen without prejudice .. If not then I will not explain ...
                    Imagine a pyramid. At its base are different nations,

                    It is impossible to compare a living organism with an inanimate object, but the state is a living organism, like people filling it ...
                    For example, wearing hijabs of Muslim peoples in a secular public school of the Russian Federation.

                    I’m just against, like against, creeping Christianization, I’ll recall my words where I recalled that in the USSR there were neither Christians nor Muslims ...
                    and if there is a fact of Christianization, there will be facts of Muslimization, especially in the case of schools where local authorities have now been given up (by the way, you did not answer this thesis in past topics)
                    Okay, I’ll tell you why I don’t consider the Russian state a forming nationality bully
                    Remind is our that the state is secular in constitution!
                    So we come to what to compare the state? and with what it consists of, with a family where there is a leader (father) who develops rules (laws) and for violation of which can punish any member, and most importantly it is the fear of punishment that makes the family an organized crowd, in contrast to the herd without a leader
                    But since the leader does not have the ability to control the thoughts of his fellow citizens, he invents God!
                    So I’ll answer what is the cement on which the state holds it legislation
                    which the leader invented and with which his members agreed and not nationality at all! mono-national states have the same chance to fall apart if the laws do not work!
                    Ighi Genghis Khan inexorably confirms this!
                    With uv.Rahim
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 2 February 2017 14: 20
                      0
                      Do you understand that the Russian question has been standing in the country since 1917 of the year ?! How did you cunningly circumvent the existence of the Russian question in our country !!!
                      I'm talking to you, almost like a child. A pyramid is a logical visual image in a methodology. Take a look at the textbook on logic for lawyers. There you will see how to make logical calculations using Euler circles. Will you also object to their use, as in logic with a pyramid? This is your objection, I do not accept. At the same time, you violate the dialectical-materialistic principle of the synthesis of the concrete and the abstract - you fall into the absolutization of the concrete. At the same time, you also violate another principle of diamate - the principle of synthesis of induction and deduction. You think at an inductive level (collect historical facts and compare them by analogy, but this is not enough! You need a deductive logical analytical calculation), and you tend to deduction only spontaneously, and not always.
                      About the Russian question read:
                      Zueva T.F. Russian question. National crisis and democracy: the administrative-territorial structure of Russia. - St. Petersburg: A.S. Suvorin of the Union of Writers of Russia, 1995. - 32 sec. // [Electronic resource]. - Access mode:
                      http://leb.nlr.ru/agate/lists/docs/?ipp=15&pa
                      ge = 1060
                      http://primo.nlr.ru/primo_library/libweb/action/d
                      lDisplay.do?vid=07NLR_VU1&search_scope=defaul
                      t_scope & docId = 07NLR_LMS010189542 & fn = perma
                      link http: //neb.rf/catalog/000200_000018_RU_NLR_BIBL_A
                      _010189542 /

                      This is the central report at the n / practical conference on the outbreak of the war in Chechnya at the Dudaev Ichkeria. There were 19 parties and movements. There were 170 people, 3 reports and 32 performances. Muslim denominations alone were represented by 3.
                    2. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 2 February 2017 15: 39
                      0
                      Quote: himRa
                      So I’ll answer what is the cement on which the state holds these laws
                      which the leader came up with and agreed by its members not nationality at all
                      Such nonsense gorodide !!! You have now fallen into the absolutization of the abstract, shoving the concrete - nationality. They violated the historical principle of diamat during the transition from simple to complex, as well as the principle that matter and society, in particular, develop unevenly. Equality of peoples is relative, and not absolutely national. You say that the nationality of the leaders "above" does not matter for a multinational state? Has - and what else HAS! Take a look at Chechnya, Ukraine, other CIS countries - and how many Russians are left there because of national chauvinism, the so-called titular national minorities? What are you fooling me and your head for? You yourself are very mistaken in this matter.
              3. Monarchist
                Monarchist 31 January 2017 17: 29
                +1
                Tatyana, your remark to the very point. In my opinion, Mr. Ratushnyak decided to promote: look how good I am, I’m glad about my voters!
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 31 January 2017 18: 09
                  0
                  The delight of the Town Hall for his Russes and the desire to be PR is distributed in his brain, respectively, approximately equally. But the very tendency to disseminate statements of desire by small nations for autonomy in Ukraine from Kiev is very indicative now!
              4. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 1 February 2017 22: 48
                +5
                Quote: Tatiana
                Well, this is all nonsense - complete utopia! Where is 1991 - and where is 2017?

                Tatyana - love In history there have been cases and funnier ...
                Ugandan dictator Idi Amin Dada is undoubtedly one of the five most odious politicians in history. He called himself the king of Scotland and the conqueror of Britain, he made obscene proposals to Elizabeth II and challenged the president of Tanzania to a boxing match.

                His full title was: His Excellency Field Marshal, Doctor, Life President Idi Amin Dada, Lord of all animals on earth and fish in the ocean. In 1975, Idi Amin declared war on the United States. He gave a fiery speech about how he would wipe Washington and other major cities of the United States off the face of the earth, and the very next day announced that the war was over. Uganda was proclaimed the winner. It is still not known for certain whether Washington knew that the United States was at war with an African state.
                And more
                In 1883, the inhabitants of the small village of Lijar in southern Spain became furious when they learned that their beloved Spanish king Alfonso XII was insulted by the French during a visit to Paris. In response to that the mayor of Lijara, Don Miguel García Saez, and with it all 300 villagers on October 14, 1883 declared war on France. The bloodless war ended after 93 yearswhen the Spanish king Juan Carlos traveled to Paris, during which the French respected him. In 1981, the Lizhard City Council ruled that "due to the excellent relations with the French," they cease hostilities and agree to a peace treaty with France.
                But seriously - then on what basis do yapps consider the Kuril Islands theirs? We have many rights to these islands (if not all), well, the yapps once hosted it .... But in the courts that Americans love so much, every piece of paper 300 years ago is expensive ..... And the results of the referendum for the preservation of the USSR? Also a document, also paper, also the will of the people ... But try now present it to someone - they will consider it crazy. But in court, in some The Hague, this is a DOCUMENT ... It doesn’t work for people once and for all, throughout history, to agree on borders ... Eternally, someone wants to separate themselves, someone else seems to have his own land. .. After the 45th and after the African colonies gained independence, when Africa was divided into independent states according to the line, it seemed that everything, the borders were forever, now everyone was happy .... But they survived to the age of 91 and it started bumpy arba .....
                1. Parsec
                  Parsec 2 February 2017 01: 07
                  0
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  His Excellency Field Marshal, Doctor, President for Life, Idi Amin Dada, Lord of all animals on earth and fish in the ocean.

                  But there is no need for familiarity; “His Excellency Lifetime President, Field Marshal Al-Haji Dr. Idi Amin, Lord of all animals on earth and fish in the sea, Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in general and in Uganda in particular, Knight of the Order of Victoria Cross, Military Cross and Order For military merit "
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        3. alexmach
          alexmach 31 January 2017 12: 19
          +3
          The situation with the Hutsuls is the same as with the Kurds. They live in their mountains and just want to not touch them.

          In general, Transcarpathia is an interesting region. First of all, it is in Ukraine the most diverse in terms of ethnic composition. Secondly, it is relatively economically prosperous - it is warmer, warmer there than on the Ukrainian side of the Carpathians, tourism is developed, border trade is legal and not very good. Thirdly, there is a fairly tolerant population. They clearly understand that a lot of different people live around and that different people need to negotiate and not impose their will.
      2. The black
        The black 31 January 2017 10: 46
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        Everything goes to the situation "walk - field" and it will not be fun at all.

        that's for sure .... and after the “walk-field” Ukraine will be pulled apart. Although not, Kiev will be left to give loans to whom.
      3. biserino
        biserino 31 January 2017 10: 50
        0
        Ukraine will be a federation of 4-5 autonomous republics. This is the will of Russia, the United States and the Minsk Treaty. There are no other options.
    2. himRa
      himRa 31 January 2017 11: 09
      +4
      The folk motives of the Hutsululs are brought to the attention.
      pay attention to the faces of the musicians
      1. von_Tilsit
        von_Tilsit 31 January 2017 11: 50
        0
        Yes, normal faces, just the rhythm of the music is fast, they are straining, falcons, so as not to stray, that is, they are straining) I had a friend from the Hutsuls (on my mother), we studied together in the historical in St. Petersburg. A normal guy, although cunning, but without "fanaticism"))
        1. himRa
          himRa 31 January 2017 12: 39
          +4
          I did not say that their faces are ugly, and their faces cannot be distinguished from Russians, and their clothes too!
          and the motives are simple and interesting, for example, like in our villages! winked
          Quote: von_Tilsit
          Yes, normal faces, just the rhythm of the music is fast, they are straining, falcons, so as not to stray, that is, they are straining) I had a friend from the Hutsuls (on my mother), we studied together in the historical in St. Petersburg. A normal guy, although cunning, but without "fanaticism"))
        2. strelok581
          strelok581 31 January 2017 12: 46
          +4
          Yes, all people are normal, all nations are normal, and Ukrainians and Russians and Chechens. All without exception.
          Exactly until the moment when a nation is trying to rise above another.
          1. Hammerlock
            Hammerlock 31 January 2017 13: 17
            +1
            you haven’t encountered the Uighurs (I’m not kindling, not once)
            1. Uncle
              Uncle 31 January 2017 15: 46
              0
              Quote: Hammerlock
              you have not encountered the Uighurs

              And I served with one Uigur, still under the Communists, abs is a normal person. Both Germans and Chechens, even Mansi and Karakalpak, were Muscovites worst of all. (I’m indigenous myself)
      2. pafegosoff
        pafegosoff 31 January 2017 23: 11
        +1
        Well yes. Tokmo here is not Polish and Austrian, but Romanian-Moldavian influence .... Bukovina. Pretty interesting area. Although, Chernivtsi is more likely - a river valley ...
        With regards to the Rusyns, everything was exterminated by them: from the Austrians to the Ukrainian nationalists ...
      3. Alex20042004
        Alex20042004 1 February 2017 18: 52
        0
        Not sickly old people play!
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 31 January 2017 11: 18
      +11
      Quote: himRa
      Hutsuls are still separs they have not yet shown their capabilities

      Greetings dear Colleagues hi drinks Along with the Hutsuls, there are Transcarpathian Hungarians there, and Hungary has long issued Hungarian passports to them, and Orban has long been licking his lips in Transcarpathia, there’s no need to even talk about Poland with Lemberg and Galicia, and Bukovina is not averse to returning Romania, so "Quiet Ukrainian night, but fat is better to hide. " smile
      1. Bath
        Bath 31 January 2017 11: 29
        +1
        There isho and Lemki live Getov Ukrainians to Kuev
      2. himRa
        himRa 31 January 2017 11: 35
        +2
        That's right, you confirm my thesis that all its neighbors are interested in the collapse of Ukraine, but the main neighbor is naturally Russia
        no one needs such a neighbor; every country has historical and territorial claims against Ukrainians! We are talking about Rusyns:
        1. himRa
          himRa 31 January 2017 11: 47
          +3
          I had to edit the text as a picture the site does not




          Forgotten tragedy of the Carpathian Rusyns
          Published by 02.07.2014
          Russian historians have a big debt - an inexplicable century and a half inattention to the history of the Carpathian Rusyns. Meanwhile, this is one of the ethnic groups closest to us, which has never forgotten our common ethnic, cultural and spiritual roots. It was thanks to them that Galicia for many centuries was the “Russian side”, not the mythical “Western Ukraine”, but the historical “Carpathian Rus”.

          source:
          http://pereformat.ru/2014/07/tragediya-rusin/
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 31 January 2017 13: 38
            +3
            I remember from the army this "Hutsul flavor" ... as I recall, perspiration starts in the throat .... laughing
            1. Drshan
              Drshan 1 February 2017 17: 43
              0
              And also recalls the "political commander on the hunt" (Hunters).
              1. himRa
                himRa 1 February 2017 19: 03
                +2
                Continuing on Soviet cigarettes ,, a beggar in the mountains ,, cigarettes Pamir

  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 January 2017 10: 46
    +6
    Kiev, one “bell” after another, but they at least count on the head amuse. But then, as representatives of a non-polluting Russian talk show with foam at the mouth, they shout: “You won’t wait! Our economy is growing at 1.5%, unlike you. People are united as never before.” Well, let's see.
    1. Rostov Papa
      Rostov Papa 31 January 2017 10: 52
      +5
      This mobile hohlotsirk on TV pretty fed up, sick already.
      1. Drshan
        Drshan 1 February 2017 17: 47
        +1
        Without them, it will be boring (ratings will fall). But some of them want to fill their faces. Oh, if I were 30 years younger ...
  3. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 31 January 2017 10: 48
    +3
    Where are the walls from again, and what about Trump?) This is when you try to express a beautifully political twist, but it turns out to express all the bright news headlines in one sentence. It is clear that Kiev has "forgotten" about the Rusyns, however, it has not been put at all for a long time, but this demagogy cannot be called otherwise. I saw that the beautiful Nevitsky castle is in ruins and devastation, and this is a 12th century building. It would have been restored a long time ago, opened a cool museum, so many people would have gone to see, no, it’s easier to pack cigarettes through the cordon and fill their pockets, topple from posts. Inherited craft, family.
    1. himRa
      himRa 31 January 2017 11: 58
      +5
      Trump is a trend of journalism do not pay attention, but there are a lot of interesting things about Nevitsky Castle:
      Nevitsky Castle (Ukrainian. Nevitsky Castle) - a castle near the village of Kamenitsa, Transcarpathian region of Ukraine, which is 12 km north-east of the regional center of Uzhgorod. The castle was built in the 1241th century on a hilltop above the Uzh River valley at the site of an earlier wooden fortification. In 1644 it was destroyed by the hordes of the Mongol-Tatars, but in the second half of the XIII century it was restored. At the turn of the XIII — XIV centuries, a quadrangular three-tier tower-dungeon was built on the site of a round dungeon. With the development of firearms, the castle was constantly improved and rebuilt, and acquired its final shape at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. At the beginning of the XVII century, during the possession of the Drugetov clan, the castle as a result of internecine wars repeatedly passed from hand to hand. In XNUMX, the castle was captured and destroyed by the Transylvanian governor Gyorgy Rakoczy. Since then, the castle has not been restored and has survived to our times in the form of ruins.


      One of the surviving towers is called Barbican
    2. von_Tilsit
      von_Tilsit 31 January 2017 12: 04
      +3
      Ha, surprised - in our Kaliningrad region there are a dozen of such castles, but preserving it will be even worse. And yet, yes - we also "carry cigarettes through the cordon," and we are not engaged in the reconstruction of cultural heritage. Because the castle is a federal property, which means that only the federal government can allocate money for its restoration ... which doesn’t know at all that there is such a pile of broken German brick. And if in the know, it still will not. The feeling that Ukraine is a mirror of Russia (And not as crooked as it might seem).
  4. askort154
    askort154 31 January 2017 10: 54
    0
    If I wanted to become a billionaire, I would now set up fences. This is the most popular trend in the 21st century. But the problem is that I do not want to be a billionaire. fool
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 January 2017 10: 55
    +1
    each rooster in his barn is a leader. So in the summer ... laughing
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 31 January 2017 11: 03
    +4
    "Wall" is already some kind of fetish, only Trump has to do with it? Val-2 !!!
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 January 2017 11: 09
    +2
    Federalization of the Outskirts - in fact, the only way out of the impending collapse of this unfinished.
    1. Sergey Medvedev
      Sergey Medvedev 31 January 2017 11: 56
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Federalization of the Outskirts - in fact, the only way out of the impending collapse of this unfinished.

      Yes, it is federalization! New federal districts: Novorossiysk, Central-Ukrainian and Western-Ukrainian!
      1. biserino
        biserino 31 January 2017 12: 21
        +1
        Ukrainians will have to eat a lot around them. wassat
        1. biserino
          biserino 31 January 2017 12: 27
          +1
          Today, 230 Bessarabian Bulgarians live in the territories between the Prut and Dniester rivers.
          We’ll take this piece from Ruigny.
  8. DPN
    DPN 31 January 2017 12: 15
    0
    Well done stand for Russian Mighty LANGUAGE,
  9. Sergey F
    Sergey F 31 January 2017 12: 24
    +1
    To whom are Hutsuls and to whom are Rusyns!
    The wall is nonsense, but Donbass, unlike Transcarpathia, really defends its rights!
    1. himRa
      himRa 31 January 2017 12: 56
      +2
      Quote: Sergey F
      To whom are Hutsuls and to whom are Rusyns!

      Yes, besides this, there are also Hungarians, but I said this in the context of the fact that they are very stubborn in observing old traditions (nationalists) and the indigenous, indigenous population of the Western slope of the Carpathians
      also consider themselves Slavs and do not consider themselves Ukrainians
      something like this...
      1. Sergey F
        Sergey F 31 January 2017 13: 36
        +1
        You are right, this is still a replica, not a detailed presentation of the material!
  10. viktor.
    viktor. 31 January 2017 16: 22
    0
    Where is Yaytsonyuk? he is special in fences wassat
    1. Alex20042004
      Alex20042004 1 February 2017 18: 55
      0
      In the same place as Ptsaki!
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  12. Victorio
    Victorio 1 February 2017 22: 31
    0
    interesting castle in the photo. what place?