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New ammunition for BelGradov created in Belarus

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BelGrad - Belarusian modification of the BM-21 “Grad” volley fire system - received new ammunition, reports Warspot.ru With reference to the deputy director of the Minsk "Factory of Precise Electromechanics" (ZTE) Yuri Anikeev.



“New ammunition is not only more powerful than the previous ones, but also has an increased range of fire. For example, a missile under the symbol 9M521MB has a range of 40 km and twice as much power. With the use of a radio fuse that provides an air gap, the effectiveness of the action increases 4 – 7 times, ”Anikeev told reporters.

Another missile, 9M522MB, is more powerful than standard 9М22Y times 5-7, he said.

According to the deputy director, “the shells 9M522MB and 9M521MB are already in mass production and adopted by the Belarusian army.” He noted that having received new ammunition, "RSZO BelGrad" became twice "long-range" and several times more powerful. "



The installation is based on the MAZ chassis and differs from the BM-21 “Grad” by increased mobile ammunition: “40 missiles are placed in the guides, 60 is placed on a special rack between the launcher and the cab of the vehicle”, the article notes.

The maximum speed of the BelGrad is 85 km / h, the power reserve is 1200 km.
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  1. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 29 January 2017 11: 02
    +3
    So in 4 or 7 times? Plus minus nothing to myself.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 29 January 2017 11: 12
      +17
      Quote: iliitch
      Plus minus nothing to myself

      Quote: iliitch
      60 more - on a special rack between the launcher and the car’s cabin ”

      Such rationalization is more like creating a "mass grave"!
      1. Signore Tomato
        Signore Tomato 29 January 2017 11: 25
        +8
        Quote: Tol100v

        Such rationalization is more like creating a "mass grave"!


        Do not want - do not carry.
        Afraid - sit with your mom under the skirt.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 29 January 2017 11: 42
          +20
          For some reason, not a word about the fact that this is a joint Russian-Belarusian development: the Minsk "Precision Electromechanics Plant" (Belarus) and the NPO "Splav" (Russia).
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 January 2017 11: 54
            +7
            BelGrad is not a particularly "advanced" version of this type of machine. On the one hand, it is not necessary to arrange balancing when loading, as in the Ukrainians. On the other hand, compared with the Czechoslovak version, the RM-70, where the entire package is charged with hydraulics immediately in 2 minutes, is clearly a worse option than it could be.
            1. prosto_rgb
              prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 12: 54
              +10
              Quote: Spade
              BelGrad is not a particularly "advanced" version of this type of machine. On the one hand, it is not necessary to arrange balancing when loading, as in the Ukrainians. On the other hand, compared with the Czechoslovak version, the RM-70, where the entire package is charged with hydraulics immediately in 2 minutes, is clearly a worse option than it could be.

              but much cheaper and no need to maintain hydraulics
              1. antivirus
                antivirus 29 January 2017 13: 40
                +2
                how much gas will cost. if this modernization gets to ukra?
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 29 January 2017 17: 45
                  +1
                  Ukrainians made the same from KRAZ. very similar by the way ..
              2. Lopatov
                Lopatov 29 January 2017 16: 36
                +1
                Why not? The result of "long-baseness" was the need to hang up the launcher. "Grad" lacks a simple disconnect springs.
                And hang up with what? That's right, hydraulics.
                1. prosto_rgb
                  prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 18: 36
                  0
                  Quote: Spade
                  Why not? The result of "long-baseness" was the need to hang up the launcher. "Grad" lacks a simple disconnect springs.
                  And hang up with what? That's right, hydraulics.

                  like somewhere they wrote about mechanical jacks for these purposes, but not the point.
                  after all, structurally, even hydraulic generally corresponds to the same product from, conditionally, “any crane”. Unlike a recharge mechanism with a hydraulic drive.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 29 January 2017 19: 39
                    +3
                    Quote: prosto_rgb
                    Unlike a recharge mechanism with a hydraulic drive.

                    He is the simplest there. Even one outrigger is harder, not to mention four
                    Just push rockets into the rail package
                    1. prosto_rgb
                      prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 23: 33
                      +1
                      thank you so much for illustrating this system
                      means there is something else to finish
                      on the other hand, the rack is easier, although it takes longer to recharge
            2. Großer feldherr
              Großer feldherr 29 January 2017 16: 53
              +1
              And everything would be fine, only the RM-70 in the “hail” version (122mm missiles) has neither packages nor reloading them with hydraulics.
              Similar functionality is available only in the RM-70 Modular MLRS (with adjustable 227mm missiles).
              And the explanation for this is very simple, replacing packages is not suitable for RZSO with unguided or non-adjustable missiles, and making ammunition of such small firepower manageable is so far too expensive.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 29 January 2017 17: 39
                +5
                Quote: Großer Feldherr
                And everything would be fine, only the RM-70 in the “hail” version (122mm missiles) has neither packages nor reloading them with hydraulics.

                Hello, we arrived ... "Grad" does not have a package of guides? Unless Grad-P has one “pipe”. If there are two “pipes”, then this is already a package. 8)))

                You just confuse two completely different things. Slovak RM-70 Modular MLRS uses NATO (read, American) transport and launch containers. Czechoslovak RM-70 uses a fixed rail package
                For the Czechoslovakian, “loading hydraulics” means that the package of guides rotates 180 degrees, after which the hydraulics “pushes” 40 missiles from the combat station into it. The hydraulics broke down - you can charge one rocket at a time
                For the Slovak RM-70 Modular MLRS, "loading by hydraulics" means the installation of the TPK by the manipulator on the launcher. No manual options, no tactical flexibility, no ability to install brake rings. Shoot only with what was charged in the TPK at the factory.
                1. Großer feldherr
                  Großer feldherr 29 January 2017 21: 13
                  +2
                  All, I repent)
                  My cant. Somehow I even saw this RZSO live, but did not know about the “feature” in the form of hydraulic reloading)
                  I thought everything was manual)
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            1. Banishing liberoids
              Banishing liberoids 29 January 2017 13: 31
              +13
              MPK105 - why do you dislike the Belarusian people? The people they still have in their majority are adequate, kind, calm and helpful people, I know, talked!
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                1. sq
                  sq 29 January 2017 17: 00
                  +4
                  At school, they used to say in elementary grades: a worm got out of the toilet and said such a phrase .... further comments from IPC105
            2. combat192
              combat192 29 January 2017 13: 34
              0
              What was that?
        2. Aqela
          Aqela 30 January 2017 10: 17
          0
          Quote: Signor Tomato
          Quote: Tol100v

          Such rationalization is more like creating a "mass grave"!

          Do not want - do not carry.
          Afraid - sit with your mom under the skirt.

          This sounds especially good in relation to soldiers of military service! good Already they certainly had the most ardent desire to sit on an unprotected battle station! fellow soldier
          The times in indicating the power of new ammunition also look interesting. I would like explanations and sane, justified comments from competent and savvy people on this issue: have there been a landmark discovery in the chemistry of explosives? Instead of trotyl and RDX (which were used well during WWII), did you get some kind of super-explosive on carbon nanotubes? what
      2. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 13: 04
        +2
        Quote: Tol100v
        Such rationalization is more like creating a "mass grave"!

        I wonder what exactly looks like?
    2. avt
      avt 29 January 2017 11: 22
      +5
      Quote: iliitch
      So in 4 or 7 times? Plus minus nothing to myself.

      ,, Givi, how many will two two? Fif! Well, yes, somewhere like that, ankle, pole .... no more. "
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 January 2017 11: 44
        +9
        The reduced lesion area is 9M522MB compared to 9M22U with a salvo of one BM
        - for open railway more than 7.37 times
        - by lightly armored vehicles 6.25 times
        Well and so on. What figures should Belarusians use? The minimum? The maximum? Or do as they did by specifying limits?
        1. avt
          avt 29 January 2017 11: 49
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          And so on.

          Quote: Spade
          Different targets, different height of air blasting

          Isn't the old fire box different ?? So if you compare it with the old one, then it’s respectively, well, if you really did it, multiple times like that once for a specific test unit, it was deduced in all modes. But it’s also necessary to do it competently, if dry numbers are given by reluctance and test methods in comparison.
          Quote: Spade
          as they did

          throwing the above mentioned joke into the void.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 January 2017 12: 02
            +6
            Quote: avt
            So if you compare with the old one, then it is accordingly, well, if you really did, multiple times like that once for a specific, tested unit, deduced in all modes.

            Multiple does not work there.
            To increase the likelihood of hitting light armored vehicles, heavy large fragments are needed.
            To increase the efficiency of work on OZhS- small, but a lot.
            Judging by the numbers, optimized for the defeat of the OZhS.
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 29 January 2017 11: 23
      +2
      Quote: iliitch
      So in 4 or 7 times? Plus minus nothing to myself.

      Maybe ... what kind of gunpowder will be poured into the "warhead"?
    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 29 January 2017 11: 37
      +10
      Quote: iliitch
      So in 4 or 7 times? Plus minus nothing to myself.

      Different goals, different height of air blasting. They write everything correctly.
      1. My doctor
        My doctor 29 January 2017 11: 58
        +5
        Quote: Spade
        Different goals, different height of air blasting. They write everything correctly.

        We believe you as an artilleryman, the efficiency varies, but where does the increase in power come from while increasing range? What was the weaker cc used in the manufacture of shells in the USSR? If so, what was the reason for this?
        Is it always possible to use a radio fuse?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 29 January 2017 12: 10
          +9
          Quote: MyVrach
          but where does the increase in power come from while increasing range?

          Detachable warhead. It gives less dispersion in range and close to optimal expansion of fragments.
          From the manufacturer's website http://ztem.by/products/reactive


          Quote: MyVrach
          Is it always possible to use a radio fuse?

          It is more efficient.
          But at the same time it is much more expensive. Well, there is a chance of running into a jamming station for radio fuses. And the efficiency will drop even lower than when using drums. Up to zero.
          1. My doctor
            My doctor 29 January 2017 15: 22
            +2
            It is clear that ordinary people perceive the expression “more power” than specialists in their own way.
          2. Aqela
            Aqela 30 January 2017 10: 25
            +1
            Very nice and clear pictures, good only, now, well, it seems to me that the point here should not be about increasing the power of ammunition, but about increasing the effectiveness of impact on typical targets. request But it’s not the same thing yes
      2. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 29 January 2017 12: 03
        +1
        Lopatov
        Quote: iliitch
        So in 4 or 7 times? Plus minus nothing to myself.
        Different goals, different height of air blasting. They write everything right.

        How to increase the power by 5-7 times with the standard volume of the warhead. Are the fragments 5 times smaller for w / s?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 29 January 2017 12: 16
          +3
          Quote: Alex_Tug
          How to increase the power by 5-7 times with the standard volume of the warhead.

          You do not.
          But this is not about power, but about the effectiveness and power of action with a goal, is it?
          1. Alex_Tug
            Alex_Tug 29 January 2017 12: 30
            0
            Lopatov
            about the effectiveness and power of action with a goal, right?

            Efficiency - not the number of fragments?
            Is power the separation distance of fragments and independent of explosive power?
            I can imagine somehow realizing the flight path of fragments as in anti-aircraft warheads.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 29 January 2017 16: 44
              +2
              Quote: Alex_Tug
              Efficiency - not the number of fragments?

              Quantity, weight and speed. But this is only effective when working on manpower or lightly armored or unarmored vehicles.
              If this, for example, is a living force sheltered, then the high-explosive action of ammunition begins to have a high value. Well and so on ...

              It's not easy at all.

              But to mix the power of action with the target, the effectiveness and power of ammunition is still not worth it. These are different things.
          2. Aqela
            Aqela 30 January 2017 10: 26
            0
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: Alex_Tug
            How to increase the power by 5-7 times with the standard volume of the warhead.

            You do not.
            But this is not about power, but about the effectiveness and power of action with a goal, is it?

            It does not follow from the text of the article. request
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 30 January 2017 10: 36
              +1
              If we turn to the original source, then we are talking about the increase "reduced area of ​​destruction in one volley of BM". and about increasing"effectiveness actI "when applying an air gap provided by the presence of a radio fuse.

              In terms of the authors of articles based on the original source begin to get confused.
    5. Großer feldherr
      Großer feldherr 29 January 2017 17: 09
      0
      Quote: iliitch
      So 4 or 7 times? Plus minus nothing to myself

      Depending on the goal, apparently the author did not even think that someone might have problems in such obvious things .... what
  2. jovanni
    jovanni 29 January 2017 11: 06
    +15
    N-yes ... If only this "BelGrad" in the Donbas, Lukashenka’s friends did not end up ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 29 January 2017 11: 28
      +6
      They work with Ukraine only private traders. Gos. defense industry enterprises have not yet been seen in this.
      1. avt
        avt 29 January 2017 11: 50
        +8
        Quote: Spade
        They work with Ukraine only private traders.

        wassat bully good Thank ! Neighing from the heart.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 29 January 2017 12: 12
          +5
          ?
          Oddly enough, the Republic of Belarus does not have the entire defense industry under the state.
    2. 113262a
      113262a 29 January 2017 12: 12
      +2
      They have a joint venture for the production of ammunition. Guiding pipes are also Svidomo.
  3. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 29 January 2017 11: 21
    +2
    In 2017, Russia will carry out its strategic deployment in the territory of Belarus according to the exercise scenario.
    Lukashenko is now trying to normalize his difficult relations with the West. I don’t know how successful such attempts will be, but this will not affect the course of the exercises, at least from the Russian side. So everything will be fine! smile
  4. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 29 January 2017 11: 49
    +6
    "Updated" TTX is very good! As far as we know, Kazakhstan has Israeli "multi-caliber" MLRS (fired by both Jewish "large-caliber" rockets and 122-mm "hailstones). At the same time, Jews stated that they use 122-mm" hailstones "only in training firing, and for real battle, only "their"! Like, the "city" is too ineffective for a real battle in comparison with the Jewish missiles (NURami). We can hope that the “Belgrade” rehabilitate MLRS BM-21 “Grad”! A transportable additional ammunition is not new! In my opinion, the Czechs were the first to do this. The idea is not bad, but ... "racks" (!) .. but if the "automatic loader" (!!) fellow
    1. Aqela
      Aqela 30 January 2017 10: 31
      0
      In the late 80s, I had to talk with the gunners who fought in Afghanistan. They conducted classes with us in Prudboy. The topic was not widely discussed, but it was unequivocally said that the use of “Grad” revealed serious problems in the effectiveness of impact on targets.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 30 January 2017 11: 42
        +2
        Quite possible ! During the Debaltsev attack of the BCH, there were episodes when the advancing BCH units requested art for support. There were "wise" military leaders who sent "Grads" (they decided that it was even better than "art"!). Here and the lack of effectiveness of the “fire” of “Gradov” against a well-buried enemy was revealed! And the result is extra losses coming.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 January 2017 11: 51
    +15
    If such "crap" finds itself in the dirty clutches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the National Bats, and flies to the inhabitants of Donbass - apparently, it will have to be very tough to deal with a whiskered businessman as president. He is now supplying the aggressor’s army with diesel fuel, demanding cheap oil from Russia. Maybe he’ll come up with supplies for shells. And then the chochloarmia deficit was drawn ... am
    1. BLOND
      BLOND 29 January 2017 12: 08
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      If such a "crap" is in the dirty clutches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the National Bats, and flies to the inhabitants of Donbass - apparently, it will have to be very tough to deal with a whiskered businessman as president ....

      Yes, a matter of principle
    2. BOB044
      BOB044 29 January 2017 12: 10
      +3
      If this crap appears in the APU. And it will be used against New Russia, Lukashenka will have to from all the chairs on which he wants to sit, fly off with a bang and it is unlikely that he will be alive after the fall.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 January 2017 12: 15
        +13
        Quote: BOB044
        Lukashenko will have to from all the chairs on which he wants to sit, fly off with a bang and it is unlikely he will be alive after the fall.

        Ukrainian anti-tank systems created with the participation of Belarusians. They have already been used "against New Russia". So what? Lukashenko flew somewhere?
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 12: 58
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          Ukrainian anti-tank systems created with the participation of Belarusians.

          so it was before the Maidan
          Now they set their sights
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 January 2017 16: 46
            +2
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            so it was before the Maidan

            Fresh giving, but hard to believe. Belarus does not make rockets, which means without cooperation with its neighbors in any way.
            1. prosto_rgb
              prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 18: 32
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              Belarus does not make rockets, which means without cooperation with its neighbors in any way.

              The fact of the matter is that the missiles are Ukrainian, but they do not do them in the Republic of Belarus, and they only made an aim for the complex.
              Now in Ukraine they themselves produce a sight for him
      2. Aqela
        Aqela 30 January 2017 10: 32
        0
        Quote: BOB044
        If this crap appears in the APU. And it will be used against New Russia, Lukashenka will have to from all the chairs on which he wants to sit, fly off with a bang and it is unlikely that he will be alive after the fall.

        Dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness! .. What a naive young man ... crying
    3. 113262a
      113262a 29 January 2017 12: 14
      +1
      Campaign, already !!! Show off ..
    4. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      If such "crap" finds itself in the dirty clutches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the National Bats, and flies to the inhabitants of Donbass - apparently, it will have to be very tough to deal with a whiskered businessman as president. He is now supplying the aggressor’s army with diesel fuel, demanding cheap oil from Russia. Maybe he’ll come up with supplies for shells. And then the chochloarmia deficit was drawn ... am

      onizh there they make and test their missiles constantly under the leadership of a bloody pastor
  6. pts-m
    pts-m 29 January 2017 12: 05
    0
    As in a rhyme ... I will threaten the resettlement ... and whoever threatens, everything will depend on the "generosity" of the giver.
  7. BOB044
    BOB044 29 January 2017 12: 06
    +2
    Well, Poland be strong, Belarusians have something to confirm to you their friendship. If your friendship goes beyond the borders and sovereignty of Belarus.
  8. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 29 January 2017 12: 37
    +1
    Interestingly, the stated figures for the area of ​​destruction, are these calculations or the results of firing?
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 13: 21
      +5
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      Interestingly, the stated figures for the area of ​​destruction, are these calculations or the results of firing?

      as a rule, data on test results
      when they reported on the modernization of C-5, even the video with the launch of missiles was laid out
      1. Banishing liberoids
        Banishing liberoids 29 January 2017 13: 34
        +1
        prosto.rgd-thanks for the clarification hi and plus from me repeat
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 14: 21
          +2
          Quote: Expelling Liberoids
          prosto.rgd-thanks for the clarification hi and plus from me repeat

          please hi
          and you +
          Sorry, not C-5, but C-8.
          So about S-5 somewhere else they said
          http://vsr.mil.by/2016/08/18/v-belarusi-razrabota
          li-raketnoe-toplivo /
          1. Aqela
            Aqela 30 January 2017 10: 35
            0
            Interesting, but without specifics ... Won something flew fast-fast - this is not an argument. wink
            1. prosto_rgb
              prosto_rgb 31 January 2017 00: 39
              0
              Quote: Aqela
              Interesting, but without specifics ... Won something flew fast-fast - this is not an argument. wink

              well at least
  9. sergei1975
    sergei1975 29 January 2017 13: 16
    +2
    A huge chassis, poor stealth. Due to the long base, it sits on the belly. A large mass - not all bridges can withstand. Large ammunition-tragedy in case of detonation in a column or in a combat position (it will not seem a little to neighbors)
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 29 January 2017 13: 51
      +9
      Quote: sergei1975
      A huge chassis, poor stealth. Due to the long base, it sits on the belly. A large mass - not all bridges can withstand. Large ammunition-tragedy in case of detonation in a column or in a combat position (it will not seem a little to neighbors)

      Uh, with this mood, an elephant cannot be sold ...
      Quote: sergei1975
      The huge chassis is poor stealth.

      Stealth at the level of a standard 3-axle truck with a tilt body is neither more nor less.
      Quote: sergei1975
      Due to the long base, it will sit on the belly.

      in general, even any equipment can be planted on the belly, and even a helicopter :)
      And about the patency of MAZ 6317 you can google yourself.

      Quote: sergei1975
      A large mass - not all bridges can withstand

      They will survive, and for this they are designed.

      Quote: sergei1975
      Large ammunition-tragedy in case of detonation in a column or in a combat position (it will not seem a little to neighbors)

      as if the standard 40-missile bk is so small that its detonation is not noticeable at all?

  10. Pate
    Pate 29 January 2017 13: 48
    +2
    Lukashenko apparently planned to move our defense industry to the global arms market !!!
  11. nesvobodnye
    nesvobodnye 29 January 2017 14: 00
    +4
    Well done Belarusian defense industry.
  12. PValery53
    PValery53 29 January 2017 14: 04
    0
    With such an ammunition layout, the azimuth of the shelling will have to be limited., Otherwise, an emergency.
  13. alavrin
    alavrin 29 January 2017 14: 29
    +1
    The main thing is that exports to Ukraine are not adjusted ...
  14. Sergey Kranov
    Sergey Kranov 29 January 2017 14: 42
    +5
    I wonder how quickly these "brotherly cities" will appear in dill? We already saw on the other side "brotherly" tractors with "Hurricanes" and Tornadoes, long-time ukrofashist tanks ride on a "brotherly" solarium, our militias recaptured "brotherly" thermal imaging cameras in Debaltseve sights. But isn’t it time to make an accident for Luka, as it once was for another noble Bulbash-Shcherbitsky? I think that the inhabitants of Donbass will not mind. Resident of the hero city of Snezhnoye.
    1. KP8789
      KP8789 29 January 2017 15: 01
      +2
      Quote: Sergey Kranov
      I wonder how quickly these "brotherly cities" will appear in dill? We already saw on the other side "brotherly" tractors with "Hurricanes" and Tornadoes, long-time ukrofashist tanks ride on a "brotherly" solarium, our militias recaptured "brotherly" thermal imaging cameras in Debaltseve sights. But isn’t it time to make an accident for Luka, as it once was for another noble Bulbash-Shcherbitsky? I think that the inhabitants of Donbass will not mind. Resident of the hero city of Snezhnoye.

      What kind of bulbash-Shcherbitsky is this? Sergey Kranov does not have to skip classes at school.
      “Brotherly” tractors with “Hurricanes” and Tornadoes are still Soviet-built. Modern tractors for “Hurricane” and “Tornado” are not delivered to Ukraine.
    2. PValery53
      PValery53 29 January 2017 16: 19
      +2
      In a traffic accident on October 4.10.1980, XNUMX, the Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Belarus Peter Mironovich Masherov was killed.
  15. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 29 January 2017 14: 54
    0
    You can still load ammunition into the trailer and carry it behind the launcher. Are these ideas or nonsense of Belarusian innovators for money laundering?
    How far can I travel charged and loaded at full launcher?
    And what are the firing angles in the presence of ammunition on the platform?
    In a combat situation, I don’t envy anyone who is on fire. The adversary will fly "in a blue helicopter", once he fires a bullet - and to all krants ...
    1. KP8789
      KP8789 29 January 2017 15: 14
      +2
      Quote: valentina-makanalina
      You can still load ammunition into the trailer and carry it behind the launcher. Are these ideas or nonsense of Belarusian innovators for money laundering?
      How far can I travel charged and loaded at full launcher?
      And what are the firing angles in the presence of ammunition on the platform?
      In a combat situation, I don’t envy anyone who is on fire. The adversary will fly "in a blue helicopter", once he fires a bullet - and to all krants ...

      No matter what the installation layout is. If an adversary arrives “in a blue helicopter”, he will fire a bullet once — the cranes will be for any crew and everyone on fire.
  16. Rostislav
    Rostislav 29 January 2017 16: 17
    +1
    Due to what the power increased significantly?
    A new explosive invented? Strongly doubt it.
  17. PValery53
    PValery53 29 January 2017 16: 22
    +1
    Isn’t it time to make an accident for Luka, as it once was for another noble Bulbash-Shcherbitsky?
    In a traffic accident on October 4.10.1980, XNUMX, the Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Belarus Peter Mironovich Masherov was killed.
    1. Franciscan
      Franciscan 29 January 2017 18: 04
      +1
      Better do it to yourselves before the country is completely ruined.
      1. Aqela
        Aqela 30 January 2017 10: 39
        0
        Nick "Franciscan" clearly speaks for the speaker’s Orthodoxy ... For peace, too lol
  18. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 29 January 2017 17: 15
    +3
    The upgraded ammunition flies twice more and more powerful, you can only rejoice for the developers.
    1. Aqela
      Aqela 30 January 2017 10: 40
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      And they also learned how to make cool presentations for customers at Power Point ... Here ... repeat
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 29 January 2017 17: 39
    +1
    the world is arming itself, but I still want to hope that these weapons never shoot in the direction of Russia ...
  20. Bkmz
    Bkmz 29 January 2017 20: 19
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    I would put a second launcher instead of a combat kit, instead of two cars there would be one.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 29 January 2017 20: 40
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      You are already ahead of the Arabs. They made 3 pieces at once on one launcher ...
  21. Brigadier
    Brigadier 29 January 2017 22: 28
    +1
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    For some reason, not a word about the fact that this is a joint Russian-Belarusian development: the Minsk "Precision Electromechanics Plant" (Belarus) and the NPO "Splav" (Russia).

    Everything goes according to the Ukrainian scenario ... It soon turns out that it was the proto-Belarusians, not the proto-Ukrainians, who invented the wheel, dug up the Black Sea, built the pyramids and wrote "Windows" ...
    1. KP8789
      KP8789 30 January 2017 01: 31
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      Brigadier have you been released from a fool for a walk? Why is this vyser?
      Recently, the cheers of the patriots have been tearing the roof amid news from Belarus. bouncyhunter writes about the joint Russian-Belarusian development, and he does not delve into the essence carries some sort of nonsense about proto-Belarusians.
    2. Aqela
      Aqela 30 January 2017 10: 42
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      Quote: Brigadier
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      For some reason, not a word about the fact that this is a joint Russian-Belarusian development: the Minsk "Precision Electromechanics Plant" (Belarus) and the NPO "Splav" (Russia).

      Everything goes according to the Ukrainian scenario ... It soon turns out that it was the proto-Belarusians, not the proto-Ukrainians, who invented the wheel, dug up the Black Sea, built the pyramids and wrote "Windows" ...

      Yeah, and Bill Gatesko will be called Will Gatesevich laughing