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Inspired by, in connection with all this Crimean epic. Suddenly, you understand - the return of the Crimea was inevitable for at least one simple reason: we have nowhere to rest. Nowhere and that's it. Wait, exclaim a man who has traveled half the world: this is not true - the whole planet is at your service, only pay. Alas, not so simple. We are talking about mass tourism, and not about "exclusive". So, it is necessary that it be: the sea, the sun and sand (we are northerners), but not far, not too expensive, without a visa, and, most importantly, safe.

What country among all those who "develops" tourism fits these criteria? So, you need to fight for the client, millions of Russians want to rest. So who? Who is ready to accept them? No, I understand - the owners of hotels and cafes are always happy, but in general, where exactly can you go?

The European Union immediately and for obvious reasons disappears: sorry, of course, but if I spend my money, then fighting for permission to enter the country where I will spend it (creating jobs) is rather strange. That is, local politicians will have a profit from those jobs that “they created,” but they are not in a hurry to let Russians into their homes without a visa. About unemployment, bastards, from the high tribunes broadcast, the creation of new jobs in the service sector. But to enter the country of Russian tourists need to get permission. Oh, you can get it simply, quickly and painlessly? Thank you, I am not a Polish plumber and not a young European.

I understand that for many of my compatriots getting a "visa there" is a great personal achievement. Maybe. But there are other areas of effort. Drinking beer in the “Europive” and then visiting the Eurosort is still not a “hajj”.

So? Suggestions? Yes. There were many offers, especially from poor Muslim countries. Where then started the "Arab Spring". And in Tunisia, for example, tourists were even shot on the beach. Somehow ridiculous everything turned out. What kind of "security" here.

For Russia, there were two "mega countries" of mass tourism: Egypt and Turkey. How did Adam Smith like to reason: “The baker provides you with bread, not out of love for you, but out of love for your money.” Millions of Russian tourists are serious, but this did not stop the Turks from destroying the Russian bomber, and some radishes in Egypt from undermining the Kogalymavia aircraft. Somehow the love of the Turks / Egyptians for their money did not save the Russian tourists and pilots ... Again, economic theory does not work, even if you are cracking.

No, they are very interested in our money, but with security ... somehow everything is sad. Liberalism does not work. According to all liberal textbooks, the Turks would never have shot down a Russian bomber, and in the interests of the Egyptian state was to ensure the full safety of flights of foreign tourists. Well, the benefit is "mani" ... profit. No, not interesting.

Exploring this topic, the author came across one of the key problems of our time. No, not the migration and not the ozone hole in the fridge. The problem of "bursting the pockets of the individual cash surplus." Difficult problem, practically unsolvable. It really exists, otherwise it is impossible to explain the behavior of some of our neighbors. The resort business in Russia brought Turkey billions, without any "high technology". But the Turkish leadership made the decision to attack, and then the "Turkish citizens" with amazement noted the "increased hostility towards themselves in Russia." Why?

No less interesting is the situation with the Balts. Since Soviet times, Russians have become accustomed to relax in this harsh land. And the good EU countries completely dismantled their industry - develop tourism. But who from Europe will go to rest on the Riga beach? Where do you find such idiots? Whether it's Russian, which is not used to. Near the two largest metropolis - Moscow and St. Petersburg. And the Baltic states have the nearest sea (cold), architecture and sand. Use, shake the rich Muscovites! But no: NATO, the EU, visas, fascism and Russophobia. And you say, “the invisible hand,” Adam Smith ... It's all nonsense.

From Europe to “rest” all kinds of degenerates and scumbags go to Riga (entertainment - while drunk, strip naked / urinate on the monument of “Square”). Well, for what they fought. Somehow everyone in Europe is actively urged to develop "post-industrial tourism", but for some reason they refuse to see Russians as tourists. Apparently, American tourists are waiting in Jurmala ... they will have to wait long. By the way, the Kiev tourism sector, after the break with Russia, ordered me to live long. Well, not the Spaniards as there will try to gnaw dumplings and non-Mexicans. And this also became a discovery for the people of Kiev: they are very loved, but tourists do not go to them. Something like this. And the aircraft to Moscow correctly canceled - "for you are not putting!".

Here are strange thoughts come to mind when you think about Kiev. This city could become a large tourist cluster and receive millions of tourists from Russia, because visa-free (not the same) is near and everything is in Russian. However, Mr. Klitschko is worried about completely different problems. I understand that, against the background of today's realities, the thought of tourist Kyiv is wild and absurd, but somehow it’s a dream. Dumplings on Khreshchatyk. Alas, alas ... There is no sea in Kiev, of course, but there is the Dnieper, the sea was in Odessa. No, they are waiting for tourists, but from Europe. Or from Asia. Or from America. Or from Alpha Centauri.

Another small country (along with Latvia) that could live well at the expense of Russian tourism is Georgia. It is also popular from Soviet times, as well as its wine, as well as its beaches, as well as its sights. However, all of the above is popular only in Russia. But nowhere else. The epic of the "re-export" of Georgian wine is known to all. Nowhere, except Russia, it was not needed. Tastes have been forming for decades. Generations. This also applies to resorts. A European can ride the same resort for decades. To lure him to another is quite difficult. To Georgia ?? Who, besides the Russians, will go there?

Such a strange impression is that in our post-industrial age all develop the sphere of tourism, but in fact no one is waiting for Russians, with rare exceptions. There have been cases of the extradition of our US citizens from Thailand and from the Maldives. That is, as it were, international resorts, where everyone is welcome, but, as it were, a little under American jurisdiction. And from Lithuania, our citizens were issued by the United States. I guess that now one of the professional tour operators will come onto the site and write that the author is a nerd and does not understand anything about sausage cuts. And casts a shadow on the fence. And spreading false rumors. Take at least the same Croatia with Montenegro. And it turned out to be interesting both with Croatia and Montenegro ...

That is, we have a classic case where, on the one hand, everything is great, on the other - not very. And as if tourism, it is and is booming, but not everything is so simple. When, in the 2014, law enforcement officers sharply cut the exit “beyond the cordon”, many were cursing loudly. The author did not touch it in any way, but he seriously thought. In the course it turned out that when moving to permanent residence to the West all police officers take into circulation special services. All Why - I do not know. Not everything is so healthy and not everything is as chocolate as it looks in advertising brochures. For some reason, in response to such reasoning, we usually hear a merry giggle: spy things and 007 agents. All of us are “the smartest” and know how Western intelligence services work, better than Western intelligence services themselves (and it’s not for nothing that the whole world trembles in front of formidable “Russian hackers”).

If you did not commit an offense, this does not mean that law enforcement agencies have no questions for you. If you do not possess sensitive information, this does not mean that foreign special services will not be interested in you. it different things actually. So in recent years, it turned out somehow that, even going on a short-term tourist / business trip to a country that has an agreement on the extradition of criminals with the United States, you suddenly find yourself under US jurisdiction. For example, in resort Spain. That is, we thought that they their criminals will exchange, and it can see how it goes ...

The United States decided to fight crime internationally. And if you personally do not consider yourself a criminal, then the US government may have its own opinion. The last anecdotal case is the requirement for the extradition of a Russian programmer from the territory of Armenia (!). Allegedly, he did something wrong there on the Internet. Funny, yes? That is, we were very long told about an open, globalized world and the right to freedom of movement. And they talked about human rights. And here is the result.

That is crooked somehow it turns out with freedom of movement: unlike Crimea, there is little where you can easily fly without hassle with documents (it's worth it? I don’t know, I don’t know). And with security, everything is very funny. Even Europe in recent years has ceased to be safe. Europe, Western. In Turkey and Egypt, everything turned out to be even “funnier”: the multibillion-dollar business, without thinking, was derailed (for the entire tourism industry in Russia this was a terrible shock). Well, post-revolutionary Egypt, where someone might not know or overlook something, but Turkey ...

They say that politics is now of little interest to people, now they are driving "loot." "Great loot." Judging by the Turkish events, it somehow does not seem to be true. Or rather: knocking down the plane, the Turks began to ask why you is this policy? Let's live together, purely on business. That is, even many, many billions of dollars for many years to come can influence the political decision very weakly. For liberals, it’s clear that this is a complete heresy. From their point of view, in order to have a suitable, safe resort, there is no need to invade tankenough to offer money. However, life is much more complicated than liberal theories. And so it turns out that the only suitable solution is to invade the tank. No other way. That is, the "big dough", of course, steers, but somehow strange it steers ... unpredictable ...

And in the Crimea, we are guaranteed to have resorts for many generations to come. Reliable and safe. On the Sochi coast there. And where are the competitors? We have been “rubbed” for so long that Turkey is better. Well, yes, better. The latest events on the Bosporus convincingly confirm this. Life has shown that many are ready to make money on Russians. Respect their interests and guarantee something there ... Believe it or not, but in terms of reliability, availability and security, Crimea is beyond competition, in principle. And it's not about patriotism. And do not throw at me anything heavy. Just call an inexpensive country, where the sun, sea, beach and palm trees, where no visas are needed, where it is safe, where no one is given out to the United States, and where there is no official Russophobia. Bulgaria, speak?

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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 January 2017 05: 55
    +5
    Krymnash, Krymnash, Krymnash! As if someone did not spit. Of ours, not ours.
  2. Siberian
    Siberian 30 January 2017 05: 59
    +4
    Abkhazia.
    Well, the whole Krasnodar Territory. Although, this does not mean that Crimea should not have returned.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 30 January 2017 10: 46
      +1
      In the holiday season, the Krasnodar Territory turns into some kind of mess. I know, I live there myself. So Crimea is to help us .. And not only that. wink
      Quote: Siberian
      Abkhazia.
      Well, the whole Krasnodar Territory. Although, this does not mean that Crimea should not have returned.
    2. Walking
      Walking 30 January 2017 17: 37
      +1
      Quote: Siberian
      Abkhazia.
      .


      Well, in FIG this Abkhazia. We stopped somehow with my wife and son with my daughter-in-law, we wanted to see how they would come to rest another time, so the Abkhaz began to pester in the cafe a little before the fight. After which we turned and left, so we do not need rest.
  3. tasha
    tasha 30 January 2017 06: 06
    +2
    You suddenly realize that the return of Crimea was inevitable for at least one simple reason: we have nowhere to rest. There is nowhere and that's it.


    What a pity that the author comes to the head only simple reasons. Nowhere to relax .. But what about the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory? Thailand, China, Vietnam and other countries of Southeast Asia?
    1. Olezhek
      30 January 2017 09: 04
      +6
      Thailand, China, Vietnam and other countries of Southeast Asia?


      As I understand it, from Thailand to the United States never gave out the Russians?
      Well, if it’s normal for you to live under American jurisdiction ... then the question disappears
      1. tasha
        tasha 30 January 2017 10: 32
        +1
        I repeat once again - it seems that you are entering. Accurate cornering.
        1. Olezhek
          30 January 2017 10: 39
          +1
          I repeat once again - it brings you. Accurate cornering.


          Blah blah blah? laughing
        2. 210ox
          210ox 30 January 2017 10: 51
          +6
          And what does it bring in? There, and more than once, people brought and killed tourists. All right, the person said. You need to relax in your country, there is plenty of room ..
          Quote: tasha
          I repeat once again - it seems that you are entering. Accurate cornering.
        3. Olezhek
          30 January 2017 10: 55
          +2
          I repeat once again - it seems that you are entering. Accurate cornering.


          You explain what is wrong. How do you look at the problem. Still, we are not discussing the coordinates of secret bases.
    2. psiho117
      psiho117 30 January 2017 15: 51
      +4
      Quote: tasha
      Thailand, China, Vietnam and other countries of Southeast Asia?

      foreign countries, with a foreign climate, cuisine, mentality, language, and their own political interests.
      And even China categorically will not refuse the US request - yes, they will pull and bully, push the problematic out of the country quickly, but with a fist on the table - and say "figs to you, and not extradition!" - they will not fit in with the Russian.

      And from the old woman - Europe, only Greeks remain more or less friendly to us. The rest (and the "brothers" too) together grin their teeth at Russia, and substitute the withers for scratching the nobleman's hand.
      1. Olezhek
        30 January 2017 20: 19
        0
        And even China categorically will not refuse a US request


        This is just a separate issue with China
        It will be difficult for them to save face and bend under America.
  4. victorsh
    victorsh 30 January 2017 06: 19
    +10
    I do not agree! There are places in Russia where the sun, saline-medicinal-lakes. Example Altai-Lake Yarovoye. Here is only one BUT. Unlike "abroad" we do not have a SERIOUS state. support for the tourist business. Almost everything has been left to private owners. Here we get the frantic prices for accommodation, travel, catering prepares "without a soul".
    1. tasha
      tasha 30 January 2017 06: 41
      +3
      Everything written below is sarcasm

      What they wanted .. State support to him. Government money is where to spend. "Politically reason ..." Dark forces do not sleep, the mace needs a new one ... Look for freeloaders, free hotels for them, privileged drives .. At whose expense? Catering without a soul .. Heh .. And what, the state aunt Galya will cook with a soul, unlike the private aunt Vali? Private aunt Valya earns money, and the state - receives ... So you get - semolina with lumps. And your aunt Galya will take your chicken home ...
    2. region58
      region58 30 January 2017 07: 42
      +2
      Quote: victorsh
      catering prepares "without a soul."

      There is, of course, such a thing, but last summer I was pretty surprised: Dagomys (15 km from Sochi), canteens - from 150 rubles (a light bite) to 300 rubles (this is from a belly), the assortment is huge, there are about a dozen of them first. At other gas stations, a cup of coffee costs so much.
      1. ando_bor
        ando_bor 1 February 2017 02: 17
        +1
        And housing in Sochi is not cheaper in Russia, I travel a lot in the country, even in Crimea it’s more expensive,
        I don’t consider the “chicken coops”; in Sochi there are no more.
    3. Olezhek
      30 January 2017 09: 03
      +1
      I do not agree! There are places in Russia where "sun, salt-healing-lakes." Example Altai-Lake Yarovoye


      But a little, for such a big country.
      1. Every
        Every 30 January 2017 11: 18
        +3
        Quote: Olezhek
        But a little, for such a big country.


        This is just one example. There are many good places in Altai, and there is a vacation for every taste: hunting, fishing (there are specialized bases), just a tourist vacation (flowering of a moralist is worth:
        Rafting ... Yes, a lot of things.

        But there's a problem. Getting there from the European part of Russia is not the cheapest pleasure. Flights are expensive.
    4. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 30 January 2017 12: 32
      +3
      Quote: victorsh
      travel

      So, travel within the country eats up the lion's share of the funds.
  5. BecmepH
    BecmepH 30 January 2017 06: 53
    +2
    However, Mr. Klitschko is worried about completely different problems.
    Will not formulate a proposal ...
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 30 January 2017 06: 59
    +7
    CRIMEA OUR !!!! And the rest is water ...
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 30 January 2017 07: 32
      +8
      That’s interesting, the author himself was at least somewhere? Why is this apocalyptic, REN-weighted nonsense? Arrested, extradited to the states? In 2013, I was in Georgia. Absolutely friendly atmosphere, prices are ridiculous, go and rest on your health. In 2016, I was on a business trip in Latvia, visited Jurmala, Riga, everyone is calm, they speak Russian, no Russophobia, full of tourists .Now about visas. What are the problems? You draw up documents, pay the consular fee, fingerprints, and after five days you get a passport with a visa. Moreover, now if you have electronic booking tools, you can choose a flight and a hotel according to your budget. So what why this article i n realized.
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 30 January 2017 07: 36
        +6
        I say water ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 January 2017 08: 09
          0
          Quote: Masya Masya
          I say water ...

          Water? wink
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 30 January 2017 08: 47
            +7
            here is the song ...
            The boat is compressed by wild pressure.
            An order was given - "trim on the stern!".
            That means guys soon, -
            At the periscopes they will see a wave ...
            At the periscopes they will see a wave ...

            Quiet at night at night,
            You only know one thing -
            When a tired submarine
            From the depths he goes home.
            When a tired submarine
            From the depths he goes home.

            Good from the distant sea
            Return to their native shores.
            Even to our awkward dawns,
            To our eternal polar snows.
            To our eternal polar snows.

            Quiet at the pier at night.
            You only know one thing -
            When a tired submarine
            From the depths he goes home.
            When a tired submarine
            From the depths he goes home.

            I do not apologize for the separation
            Though I had to from home in the distance,
            To experience the depth of immersion,
            The depth of your pure love ...
            The depth of your pure love ...

            Quiet at the pier at night ...
            You only know one thing -
            When a tired submarine
            Going home from the depths ...
            When a tired submarine
            Going home from the depths ...

            Quiet at the pier at night.
            You only know one thing -
            When a tired submarine
            Going home from the depths ...
            When a tired submarine
            Going home from the depths ...
            and your shoe covers he is shoe covers! ...
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 30 January 2017 08: 51
              +2
              Quote: Masya Masya
              and your shoe covers he is shoe covers! ...

              In the morning, the day did not set? wink
              1. Masya masya
                Masya masya 30 January 2017 08: 57
                +6
                Yes, on the contrary ... happiness is rushing !!! envy !!!
              2. WUA 518
                WUA 518 30 January 2017 08: 58
                +3
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                In the morning, the day did not set?

            2. WUA 518
              WUA 518 30 January 2017 08: 55
              +2
              Quote: Masya Masya
              here is the song ...

              Ah well done! Classic!
      2. Olezhek
        30 January 2017 09: 02
        +5
        from I wonder if the author himself was somewhere? Why is this apocalyptic, REN-weighted nonsense? Arrest, surrender to the states? In 2013, I was in Georgia. Absolutely friendly atmosphere, prices are ridiculous, drive and rest on your health


        But keep in mind that when you arrive in Georgia, your passport data automatically goes to the USA ...
        Only recently two cases: the arrest of a Russian programmer in Armenia and the same in Spain.
        By request of USA.
        Is this nonsense or a duck?
        By the way, in the summer of 2008, Georgians were also very friendly.
      3. Docent1984
        Docent1984 30 January 2017 09: 45
        +4
        You bring this idea to our programmer, who is now in a Spanish pre-trial detention center instead of relaxing in hospitable Spain ... Just because the trend is today, "Russian hackers." So do you personally work with whom? For example, I am a builder. Recently he worked at a defense plant in Sevastopol. So if I suddenly decide to go with my family somewhere like Italy, they can just pick me up and arrest me upon request, it is unclear what side the eggheads in this country are. Like I’m an “aggressor” helping to export his aggression))) This is in our country laughing at this, but for them it is already a reality.
      4. LaGlobal
        LaGlobal 30 January 2017 15: 32
        +1
        Quote: WUA 518
        More about visas. What are the problems? You draw up documents, pay the consular fee, fingerprints, and after five days you receive a passport with a visa.


        - totally agree with you!
        I’ll add from myself: last year, I opened an Italian visa. I got everything in three days. No queues. In Milan, I had a good rest with my family.
        But to my regret, the level of prices for vacation at home is very, very close to foreign, and the level of service, sorry, but it’s stupid to argue, is far from good.
        If we talk about the rest in the Crimea, then now a one-way ticket, on average, costs about 10000 rubles. For a family of three, 60000 rub back and forth + accommodation + rest itself. If we are talking about all-in-cleansing, then, as he said, one person: "not everything is so simple" (c).
        If I'm wrong - correct.
        The author, OLEG poured a lot of water ... I have been resting in Crimea since 2009. And yes, there are changes, some in person. But in terms of the culture of people in relation to their yards, houses, stairwells, sidewalks - just cynical. I'm not going to row all under one. But the result of the 25 summer vacation of Crimea and Sevastopol to / in Ukraine makes itself felt.
        Favorite city of Yalta: its embankment is more or less clean, but it's worth it to go home to Massandra or to the street. Kirova, you yourself will see coca srach satisfied with the locals.
        Here is another example: living in Yalta on the street. Kirova, I ask a neighbor (local) why he throws cigarette butts into the street under his feet, and so that the children (of him) would smoke or play with them. But he replies that they say we pay taxes for cleaning, and all that ... A playground is nearby, local people smoke and drink alcohol around. And so almost everywhere in Yalta (Massandra, Kirov, center).
        I’m all this for what - to the fact that it takes a lot of effort and most importantly to show time so that the consciousness of people living on the peninsula has a desire not to litter at home.

        And the best part: I have never met such an amazing nature as in the Crimea. That air is indeed healing! For beginners, I highly recommend visiting the Bakhchisaray Rift, the Chaly Museum (which is in Sevastopol), this is the only free museum I have ever visited. He contains it at his own expense. And it was created on the remains of an 35 battery. This is truly an amazing place! Be sure to visit the Swallow's Nest and Ay Petri.
        Well, for yourself, to discover this amazing Crimea, spend two days in order to see the South Coast. But this will not be enough. But a LOT of impressions.
        All good!
      5. Ren
        Ren 31 January 2017 20: 03
        0
        And if you have 1 in form, then you don’t really go for it. repeat
    2. ando_bor
      ando_bor 1 February 2017 02: 20
      0
      Alaska may not be needed, then toil with the northern importation, but it’s necessary to stir up, so that America would not relax,
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 January 2017 07: 52
    0
    Something this article is not very suitable for VO.
    1. Skubudu
      Skubudu 30 January 2017 12: 08
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      Something this article is not very suitable for VO.

      It’s even suitable, at least half of us are here - “Not visiting”
      And on the topic: it’s cold in Crimea, it’s warmer in Adler
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 30 January 2017 12: 53
        0
        Skubudu
        It’s even suitable, at least half of us are here - “Not visiting”

        Well, only if so ... to visit virtually the Crimea. "Let's wave to the Crimea, it’s warm there, there are apples!" from film Property of the Republic.
  8. Alex66
    Alex66 30 January 2017 08: 08
    +5
    Holidays in Thailand about 40 tr can be found. Crimea count tickets 15 TR, the hotel is no less than a plus meal, cheaper does not work. Take a rest in Crimea for 25 tr. just then write such articles.
    1. Olezhek
      30 January 2017 08: 59
      +5
      That is, you personally, with your property and health, guarantee the complete safety of your vacation in Thailand?
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      2. Alex66
        Alex66 31 January 2017 13: 21
        0
        ... a person is mortal and what is most sad is suddenly mortal, because somehow the classic, and you are about guarantees, I decided for myself, and you decide, but you need to do something with the prices of holidays in Russia.
    2. Masya masya
      Masya masya 30 January 2017 09: 02
      +10
      but don’t have to go anywhere ... relax in the country ... a bathhouse, a river and everything about kay !!!
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 January 2017 09: 11
        +3
        Quote: Masya Masya
        relax in the country ... bathhouse, river and everything about kay !!!

        So at the cottage, in the bathhouse you can get burned! good But most of all I liked it -
        you personally, with your property and health, guarantee
        Hello from 90's?
        1. Olezhek
          30 January 2017 09: 15
          +2
          Hello from 90's?


          No, it's just customary to somehow answer for your words ...
          If a person is sure of something, then he can safely subscribe to it.
          And if he starts to "jump off the topic" (like greetings from 90's), then everything is clear.
          1. tasha
            tasha 30 January 2017 10: 28
            +1
            Accepted to answer ...
            by concepts? Exactly from 90's. wink You, Olezhek, seem to be bringing you ...
            Got hold of your thought and drag it along with you, until the shells are overgrown.
            That in Thailand, that in Crimea property and health may suffer ..
            My friend, quite pretentious to the level of rest, went to Sochi last year. AND
            I was pleasantly surprised by the changes in the quality of service. And he has something to compare ...
            1. kalibr
              kalibr 30 January 2017 12: 28
              0
              This summer, on the Black Sea, a mass of people picked up the LCD!
        2. Masya masya
          Masya masya 30 January 2017 09: 15
          +7
          hi from the 70s !!! love
          I was born in the Soviet Union! I was made in the USSR !!!
    3. Docent1984
      Docent1984 30 January 2017 09: 54
      +4
      This is a standard error for many now. You already in your very promise are doing an unacceptable thing - you are comparing values ​​of different dimensions. A kilogram with a meter. Holidays in Thailand, you can find for 40 thousand. Yes, probably, you can really find it. If you look long and hard. But the average price tag will be times 2-3 more expensive. That is, you set the minimum value for this case. And for recreation in the Crimea you give an average value. At the same time, you forget to mention that you can FIND 15 thousand off the road in Crimea (you don’t have to argue, my engineer went to Alushta in July, I know firsthand). So the difference is approximately 1: 3. And this is not at all some percentages, it is significant. And everyone already chooses whether it is worth it or not.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 30 January 2017 09: 59
        +1
        Quote: Docent1984
        At the same time, you forget to mention that you can FIND a vacation in Crimea for 15 thousand off the road (and no need to argue, my engineer went to Alushta in July, I know firsthand).

        do you mean one person?
        1. Docent1984
          Docent1984 1 February 2017 14: 23
          +1
          Yes, of course) Well, just like Thailand for 40 - this is also clearly about one person)
      2. Pulya
        Pulya 30 January 2017 12: 12
        +2
        Quote: Docent1984
        This is a standard error for many now. You already in your very promise are doing an unacceptable thing - you are comparing values ​​of different dimensions. A kilogram with a meter. Holidays in Thailand, you can find for 40 thousand. Yes, probably, you can really find it. If you look long and hard. But the average price tag will be times 2-3 more expensive. That is, you set the minimum value for this case. And for recreation in the Crimea you give an average value. At the same time, you forget to mention that you can FIND 15 thousand off the road in Crimea (you don’t have to argue, my engineer went to Alushta in July, I know firsthand). So the difference is approximately 1: 3. And this is not at all some percentages, it is significant. And everyone already chooses whether it is worth it or not.


        I rested in August in Alushta. The price tag for housing starts from 3000 rubles. and this is in the private sector. Food from 350 in the dining room !!! In a cafe from 600 rubles.
        I went by car, I don’t know the price tag of tickets.
        But here is the culture and service - limping on both legs. For example, I’ll give you one thing - entry to the beach by car is NOT FORBIDDEN! Crowds of people and car flows between them ... I'm in shock!
        As a result, for 30 days of rest in Crimea, we (4 people) unfastened 480 rubles.
        Something like this :)
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 30 January 2017 12: 29
          +1
          Quote: Pulya
          As a result, for 30 days of rest in Crimea, we (4 people) unfastened 480 rubles.

          It's easy to go nuts!
          The three of us spent 12 tyrov in 70 days.
          Gasoline + ferry + housing + food (prepared by ourselves) + minimum cultural program (provided that they enjoyed the privileges of the residents of Crimea, they have everything for half price).
          I note that relative to 2013, everything went up in space!
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 30 January 2017 14: 18
            0
            What's so surprising? If Puli got 4k per person, then you have 2k - everyone has a different rest, I, and 20 years ago, spent no less in Sevas.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 30 January 2017 14: 43
              +2
              Quote: lelikas
              What's so surprising?

              I talked about the fact that in Crimea last August, everything was very expensive and in this sense, I did not even argue with Pula.
              With this love of Crimea for me, the trips there became long and expensive, the Don federal highway, almost all paid, but the quality of the road was not satisfactory. I had to go around the fields with 40 kilometer-thick traffic jam, places for rest, overnight were not equipped, eating. Information on the tracks is a separate issue, as is driving around the Crimea itself.
              I will make a reservation right away, in 2015 we went on a single ticket, this is a nightmare of nightmares!
              And another characteristic touch, flights to the Crimea cost, for example 7 tyrov, and back 20!
              In these circumstances, the Crimea will stop driving completely, before the delivery of the bridge.
              1. Olezhek
                30 January 2017 17: 55
                +1
                With this love of Crimea for me, the trips there became long and expensive, the Don federal highway, almost all paid, but the quality of the road was not satisfactory. I had to go around the fields with 40 kilometer-thick traffic jam, places for rest, overnight were not equipped, eating. Information on the tracks is a separate issue, as is driving around the Crimea itself.


                Excuse me, who should solve all these problems?
                Aliens?
                Ukrainians?
                Biden?
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 30 January 2017 19: 39
                  +2
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  Excuse me, who should solve all these problems?
                  Aliens?
                  Ukrainians?
                  Biden?

                  Why did you say that? I don’t understand, sorry. request
                  Personally, he meant that the authorities did not do a damn thing so that Russian citizens would go on vacation to the Crimea.
        2. Stone
          Stone 30 January 2017 22: 41
          +3
          Do not consider advertising, I have a guest house in Shtormovoy, the price for a room is 1500-1800 for 2-4 people per day (with all the amenities in the room, air conditioning, TV, fridge, etc.), of course you can eat differently, but an average of 700-800 rubles per person is enough, as a result, a family for 10 days 40000 p. Enough and + road. But the flight can still come out as much, and even much more expensive. In general, if desired, a family of 4 people, may well rest, sunbathe and go on excursions within 100 thousand p.
          1. sdc_alex
            sdc_alex 31 January 2017 11: 15
            +1
            Quote: Sten
            In general, if desired, a family of 4 people can well rest, sunbathe and go on excursions within 100 thousand p.


            Interesting: my RFP is 28000 p. along with vacation pay for 2 of the week, 40000 will be released, well, plus ZP of his wife - 15 000. Total 55000 p. Of these, about 15000 should be left to live after a vacation + paying monthly expenses (loans + kamunalka, etc.). And that remains on vacation 40 - 45 TR (at best) And in this amount I need to lay the road, accommodation, food and rest ...
            Attention to the question: Where should I go on vacation from my Siberia, if our family consists of 3 people ????

            PySy: the level of income and expenses that I indicated is still considered not very bad in my city. Those. such as me and my family - the vast majority in Russia.
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 30 January 2017 08: 18
    +2
    A European can ride the same resort for decades.
    ..I’m here too .. as a European I go to relax in one Russian resort .. for several years .. This resort has its pros and cons .. But for all this time I got discounts on a ticket, other discounts on services that are there exist..
  10. sa-ag
    sa-ag 30 January 2017 08: 49
    +1
    Advertising however ...
    1. Olezhek
      30 January 2017 09: 16
      +1
      Just name an inexpensive country where the sun, sea, beach and palm trees, where you do not need a visa, where it is safe, where the United States does not issue anyone, and where there is no official Russophobia.


      Can you answer? lol
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 30 January 2017 12: 26
        +1
        Much can be called, but I do not see the point! But by the way ... Cyprus, Croatia, Montenegro, Spain, Sardinia, Malta ... That is, there, maybe they give out, but it is said - "do not talk." But Russophobia and I and my friends did not find anything there. Cyprus in my opinion it is not clear whose colony was - England or Russia. There are a lot of flags in front of a store or hotel ... here it’s clear! But if three, then you can guess 99 out of 100 in a dispute: Cypriot, English and Russian. True, as I do not know this year, it was like this in the past and the year before.
  11. libivs
    libivs 30 January 2017 11: 27
    +2
    The article is primarily about the so-called beach tourism. Warm sea, sun, sand ... Crimea and the coast of the Caucasus may well satisfy these needs, though a little expensive compared to Turkey. Another thing is tourism cognitive. Well, a person wants to see Hagia Sophia in Constantinople, the Roman Forum, or the Eiffel Tower. Here, a serviceman or an employee of special services, regardless of whether he is active or not, must adhere to the main principle: do not talk! No one should know who you are or where you served. Just so, away from sin. Even visiting his small homeland - Kazakhstan, while still an acting officer of the FSB FS, he never took service certificates with him, and answered tricky questions about his place of work or occupation, the Kazakh police, and the wool train, simply: a history teacher at school, so as not to excite their brains with a built-in calculator.
    1. Walking
      Walking 30 January 2017 17: 59
      0
      The same thing happens in Russia, and everywhere in other countries we do not advertise the place of service. There are fewer problems.
  12. prior
    prior 30 January 2017 11: 56
    0
    All that’s left is to arrange a vacation in Crimea at such prices that the Bulgarians, Turks and other Tunisians come to rest in Crimea.
    1. Olezhek
      30 January 2017 17: 53
      0
      All that’s left is to arrange a vacation in Crimea at such prices that the Bulgarians, Turks and other Tunisians come to rest in Crimea.


      Purely for myself, even Ukrainians close the entrance
  13. kalibr
    kalibr 30 January 2017 12: 20
    0
    Oleg well done! A good article in the sense of advertising Crimea as a vacation spot for Russians. I started traveling to the Crimea since 1962, and where I just wasn’t there ... And it’s good that it is ours, it should be so. But the citizens of a great country are somehow not very decent huddled only on the Crimean patch or in the same Turkey and in Ebipt. A great country should also help those citizens who would like to travel to other countries, moreover, these are not only our native millionaires, but also normal citizens working for wages. And now they need help! It is possible to facilitate the process of obtaining a visa, agree on a visa-free regime not only with the sinking Vanuitu republic, but also with much more civilized European countries. In the meantime, while personally, under the cover of circumstances, I see a building of some kind of new "half-iron curtain." He does not pull on the former, he will miss dollar millionaires, but the teacher will not let out the masterpiece to see the masterpieces and will not let out a lot of people. That is, it doesn’t hurt Hotsa to our authorities that many people saw the “middle class,” the “middle class,” because it’s a massive electorate and it can say, “we want it there, but we don’t know how to manage ... go ahead!”
    1. Olezhek
      30 January 2017 17: 59
      +1
      In the meantime, while personally, under the cover of circumstances, I see a building of some kind of new "half-iron curtain." He does not pull on the former, he will miss dollar millionaires, but the teacher will not let out the masterpiece to see the masterpieces and will not let out a lot of people.


      Let's not spread liberal fables. There is someone to do this without us
  14. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 30 January 2017 12: 58
    +1
    The Chinese do not bother, and the most active tourists ride around the world. If everything is ok in Crimea for prices and services, then you won’t need to advertise it --- the people will go there themselves, because the places there are really wonderful. And so, from the latter: Dvorkovich said that communication with Egypt could soon be unfrozen.
  15. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 30 January 2017 13: 45
    +3
    The author is an incorrigible romantic, does he really believe that the “money” is of interest only to the staff serving the “western” and eastern resorts, while in Crimea tourists are waiting with open arms for “free of charge”? It is precisely in the Crimea and in the Krasnodar Territory that they "cut loot" from tourists shamelessly and not even smiling, motivating this with the seasonality of this business. Do you see the author of the "difficult" to get a visa to enter Europe. Now this is being done "easy" - they will do everything for you, you just have to visit one of the many multidisciplinary centers of "paperwork", which are now also doing this. And I dare to assure you, the time spent on obtaining a Schengen visa is simply incomparable with the endless waiting in the heat, formalities and other "charms" of waiting tourists at the crossing at the entrance and exit to the Crimea, if you travel by your own transport ... If you fly there by plane, you need to to be puzzled by buying plane tickets a few months in advance, otherwise closer to the season the price of the issue will be very significant ... Well, about the service, “lousy” savings are inherent in this business in Russia — everything is everywhere at a minimum and at maximum prices for vacationers, when oh no one is puzzled by the creation of "European" standards of comfort - the main thing is to suck out more money at minimal cost, the benefit of our tourist, intimidated by "sanctions", "terrorists", etc. with his laziness and the notorious "language barrier" does not really need to put pressure on the psyche for that he chose "our" resorts, it is enough to write regularly such articles here ....
    1. Olezhek
      30 January 2017 17: 52
      +2
      Does he really think that “money” is of interest only to personnel serving the “western” and eastern resorts, while in Crimea tourists are waiting with open arms for “free of charge”? Just in the Crimea and in the Krasnodar Territory "cut the loot" from tourists shamelessly


      Did the author write something about the fact that everything is free in Crimea?

      And I dare to assure you, the time spent on applying for a Schengen visa is simply incomparable with the endless waiting in the heat, formalities and other "charms" of waiting tourists at the crossing at the entrance and exit to the Crimea, if you go by your own transport ..


      So dear comrade, the country, including Crimea, must be dealt with.
      The point of the article is that nobody will solve our problems for us. Even for the money.

      Well, about the service- "lousy" savings inherent in this business in Russia, everything is everywhere


      Yes, you got a bad country, I have no luck sympathy.
      You deserve the best.
  16. Oriental express
    Oriental express 30 January 2017 14: 26
    +1
    I generally will not go to any republic of the former USSR because of their Russophobia. And gentlemen, you are worse for me than NATO, because NATO is an enemy, and you are defectors.
  17. elenagromova
    elenagromova 30 January 2017 15: 16
    +2
    There is one highly undervalued country ... The coast is brilliant, and our people will literally be kissed there. True, not everywhere you can go, but there, where you can now - is incredibly interesting. Historical places - the sea. The climate is much better than in the Crimea, with all due respect to it. This is the very country that Russia today is helping to fight terrorism. It remains only to resolve the issue of visa-free, but judging by how relations develop, this is a matter of coming time.
  18. art266
    art266 30 January 2017 18: 29
    +5
    Crimea returned not because the Russians have nowhere to rest.
    The vast majority of the people of Crimea are Russian people who have always sought to reunite with Russia.
    And of course, welcome to us in Sevastopol, we are always happy.
    My catalog of the beaches of Sevastopol:
    http://virtual-sevastopol.ru/index-plyaj.html
  19. andrewkor
    andrewkor 30 January 2017 19: 07
    +1
    And walk along the Altai on a cedar, swim in the cedar, swim in Teletsky, in Aya !!!
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 30 January 2017 19: 13
      0
      Yes, take a walk and bring yourself a tick-borne “present” in the form of incurable borreliosis (Lyme disease), or encephalitis, or tick-borne rickettsiosis ....
  20. tasha
    tasha 30 January 2017 19: 34
    +1
    You Olezhek, do not calm down wink

    You write "The point of the article is that no one will solve our problems for us. Even for money." Is it appropriate to use a CEP expression? wink
    The turn will reach the Crimea, do not worry. Infrastructure is being created, bridges are being built. But click on your fingers to give you beaches, resorts, hotels and restaurants of a more or less acceptable class. Again, at whose expense is the banquet?
    I wrote about the impression of a rather spoiled person on vacation in Sochi. And in Crimea everything will be fine.
    For your information - in 2016 in the Krasnodar Territory about 12,5mln people rested ...
  21. AB
    AB 30 January 2017 20: 59
    +3
    Russia, Crimea ... At 15 and 16, rested for 2 weeks in Yalta. Honestly, satisfied. My wife and I were accustomed to Soviet service, but to my son, he and his friends drove from Kerch to Sevastopol in a car, I didn’t really like it. Everything seems to be fine, but a lot is lacking. Taxi drivers pushing the price up to the clouds, small buses shutting down by 9 pm. Claims the sea, but still this summer I will go to the Crimea. For one simple reason. In other places where I would like to go (Lake Baikal, Altai, Primorye, Kamchatka, Sakhalin, etc. etc.), there will not be enough money from Moscow.
  22. ingenera
    ingenera 31 January 2017 13: 51
    0
    The article is correct. But here's what surprises (or annoys) in "our" travel industry - everyone is ready to take money, but they are in no hurry to develop infrastructure. And the prices for these services often do not match the quality of the services provided. And often they just stupidly use the heritage of the USSR, a little "retouching" the interiors and introducing entertainment such as "ATV rental."
  23. Ren
    Ren 31 January 2017 19: 55
    0
    Vietnam is quite the same nothing.
  24. VladimS
    VladimS 31 January 2017 20: 57
    0
    You suddenly realize that the return of Crimea was inevitable for at least one simple reason: we have nowhere to rest. There is nowhere and that's it.

    Oh, you fooled! And your irony is moronic. Ugh!
    Because of such articles, people sometimes hate the whole writing fraternity. And not in vain, as you can see.
    It turns out by vehicle, the Balts are not in vain afraid of losing the Riga seaside, for the same reason.
    1. Olezhek
      1 February 2017 21: 05
      +1
      On the Riga coast, the air is fresh ...
      the wind of my hopes roams there ...