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Roscosmos recalls all Voronezh rocket engines. Launch schedule for 2017 year disrupted

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The end of January was a very hot time for Voronezh workers in space enterprises. It all started on January 20, when Ivan Koptev, director of the Voronezh Mechanical Plant, part of the Khrunichev concern, made a decision about his dismissal.




The reason for the dismissal was his own desire, based on the findings of the commission, which came to the conclusion about the unsatisfactory quality of the products.

On the same days, black minibuses with inscriptions aboard the Investigative Committee of Russia and the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation began to appear near the factory entrance, in the parking lot.

25 January passed the information that Roscosmos decided to withdraw ALL engines assembled at Vyksa for the next 5 years. Including those that have already been sent to cosmodromes and even installed on launch vehicles.

We are talking about the engines of the second and third stages for the Proton-M launch vehicle. Moreover, according to the representative of Roscosmos Igor Burenkov, the question is about the recall of dozens of engines.

Return to the factory, full inspection, elimination of the revealed violations will take from three to five months. Considering that the test has established the use of solder that does not comply with the design documentation, this is not a matter of one day.

Obviously, the launch schedule for launch vehicles is frustrated. According to forecasts, the first start from Baikonur can take place no earlier than June of this year. Accordingly, the remaining on earth satellites Echostar-21 and Hisposat-1F will bring huge losses. By the way, Blagovest should also be launched by Proton ...

To remedy the situation, it was decided to connect another engine-building enterprise - NPO Energomash. He is assigned to audit and additional technical control of all engines produced at Vyksa.

It is clear that the staff of the Prosecutor General’s Office and the Investigative Committee will understand how some materials were replaced by others that are less resistant to temperatures. And why all this passed by a huge number of controlling and checking responsible persons.

Meanwhile, the launch of the next crew to the ISS has been scheduled for March 27. The question arises: is it worth risking the lives of Jack Fisher and Fyodor Yurchikhin, given that in terms of the device of the third stage of the Soyuz-U rocket and Soyuz-FG, on which the astronauts are to fly, are identical? And there is the same RD-0110, with which problems constantly arise.

We don't have another engine certified for manned flights.

Great, we started 2017 year, chained to the earth the entire space fleet. And you should not rely on the Angar wonderland: There is simply no “Angara” capable of plugging the “proton hole”. I hope so far.

But the question arises: what next? Undoubtedly, those found guilty of replacing components with non-standard ones will be found. Find and punish. And maybe they will not be punished. It all depends on the level at which this outrage happened. Well, everyone knows how it happens here.

Undoubtedly, there will be those guilty of having signed acts of readiness, they will. But as far as it can improve the situation, that is the question.

In the meantime, despite Peskov's vigorous assurances that we are fine in the space industry, we are losing. And the United States, and China. And we will continue to give up positions if we do not take up the problems of Roscosmos tightly and firmly.

Unfortunately, last year we wrote more than once about problems in the space sphere. And, unfortunately, they were right in many things. But rockets continue to fall, despite all the tricks of "effective managers."
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  1. ImPerts
    ImPerts 26 January 2017 06: 24
    +10
    Roscosmos has finally done what it should have done many years ago. Now it turns out that the fall of the "Protons" is a consequence of the violation of technical processes during assembly at VSW.
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 26 January 2017 10: 28
      +8
      Quote: ImPerts
      Roscosmos has finally done what it should have done many years ago. Now it turns out that the fall of the "Protons" is a consequence of the violation of technical processes during assembly at VSW.

      For a long time they were going, in space it is better late than never and hope for, maybe they fly will only lead to disasters. belay
    2. gridasov
      gridasov 26 January 2017 12: 12
      0
      Nonsense! Just one problem is substituted for another. And in general, this is a stupid trick to make "dirty linen in public" especially in such an industry. The question is what desire and trends are. in order to increase the useful weight, the spacecraft launched into orbits rests on scientific problems, which have, or rather can have, a fundamental character. All modern rocket engines operate at the limit of their resource - they are virtually uncontrollable in essence. This means that we need new innovative solutions to increase the speed of rotation of the rotors of fuel turbine turbines, this is a set of questions on the basic issues of how these engines should work. And after all this, the problem is shifted to solder. This is ridiculous! Where are the decisions on the quality factor of one or another node. All this only confirms that everything is on the limit.
      1. thinker
        thinker 26 January 2017 13: 04
        +2
        This is ridiculous! Where are the decisions on the quality factor of one or another node.

        Do you think replacing silver solder with copper is normal? Their properties are somewhat different, however. To solder the frame of your bike with tin, it would be funny when it falls apart on the go.
        1. gridasov
          gridasov 26 January 2017 13: 13
          +1
          I believe that the connecting nodes in the email. networks need not be soldered, but formed as a cathode-anode bond. You know why when there is welding with an electrode, why they have “Forms” or how to create a joint that will work like a spring, but not break down in its material structure. That is, in other words, I do not urge to abandon effective materials, but the quality factor of important nodes must be implemented using completely different methods.
          1. Baikal
            Baikal 26 January 2017 14: 22
            +7
            Ohhhh, gridasov)))) A master clown of unknown "sound techniques" that no one knows about, but which must be entered! I suspect that you are the trials of some new bot that takes words from the dictionary and puts them in a pseudological order))
            - - - - - - - - -
            Gentlemen, what rockets are we talking about? Here the Military Review for several years can not make people from the Crimea appear with the Russian flag, and you - missiles ... fool
          2. GIN
            GIN 12 November 2017 11: 26
            0
            Obviously not in the subject, where does the electricity man shut up with your bird
        2. Cat man null
          Cat man null 26 January 2017 14: 26
          +1
          Quote: thinker
          Is replacing silver solder with copper solder normal?

          - this is what they wrote yesterday about this:
          Quote: alexey1213
          During fire tests, the burners of the gas generator burned out. The gas generator worked out the prescribed time. They began to look for the cause and found a substitute for solder. An error occurred while getting solder in the pantry. Solders wallpaper silver but different content of poladium. Visually they can not be distinguished. They put the most expensive solder ...

          - that is, just a mess in the inventory, no more, no less
          - used what is more expensive, but not what is needed (DB) fool
          - and about the “copper solder” ... for the first time I hear about such a beast, in my opinion, this does not happen request
      2. Monarchist
        Monarchist 26 January 2017 15: 25
        0
        Hauptmann gridasov, you propose to solve everything “in secret”: leave the effective manager to “feed”? In Russia, before Peter 1, there was a "feeding", when the official was put in charge of the governor so that he would "feed" on income from the region, that is, legal robbery.
        If you follow your logic, Roscosmos will fuel the "effective managers", and the public will be silent. Any crook will be happy. Or am I wrong?
        1. gridasov
          gridasov 26 January 2017 15: 34
          0
          No, you're wrong! I am only talking about the technical side of problem solving. Everyone else amuse yourself.
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 27 January 2017 21: 28
          0
          Feeding was canceled by Ivan the Terrible during the Zemstvo reform.
  2. Thirteenth
    Thirteenth 26 January 2017 06: 37
    +6
    Correctly withdraws. In this case, it is better to overdo it than to overdo it.
  3. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 26 January 2017 06: 54
    +3
    The defeat of the military reception will be affected for a long time. Such specialists have been developed for years.
    1. sodick
      sodick 26 January 2017 09: 27
      +6
      we are talking not only about military acceptance, but also about civilian specialists in the first place. This is an echo of the so-called "optimization" proclaimed by our government, which is being imposed on all defense enterprises, in which non-production (engineering and technical personnel) and production (in most cases, experienced retirement age specialists) personnel are reduced without the introduction or formal introduction of new equipment. The super-awards of the heads of enterprises depend on the results of optimization.
      1. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 26 January 2017 12: 24
        +1
        Earnings and bonuses of specialists of the enterprise depend on economic indicators, hence the opportunity for performers and controllers to turn a blind eye to some violations of technology and a decrease in product quality indicators. VP provides independent non-departmental control. The military representative must be a competent specialist, able to catch the "simplification" of technology and tricks when checking product quality. And this comes only with experience, and even then not for everyone.
        In Voronezh, there is a case of stupid theft, in which a lot of people are involved, who have good bonuses from this. Therefore, everyone was silent.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 January 2017 06: 58
    +3
    Once, it is necessary to restore order in this organization. And there, other circumstances may emerge that shed light on what is happening. I would like to understand once and for all. At stake is the LIFE of the people and the reputation of the country.
  5. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 26 January 2017 07: 09
    +8
    A direct example of what happens when high-tech manufacturing is run by "effective managers" rather than techies. And their military acceptance seems to be lured.
    1. EternalStranger
      EternalStranger 26 January 2017 13: 09
      +1
      As if techies were stealing less. No political will - no space.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 January 2017 07: 20
    +7
    check established the use of solder that does not comply with the design documentation

    I don’t even know how to comment (very bad words beg). At 30-50 it would be qualified as sabotage with all the ensuing consequences. Today it is obviously defined as negligence and lack of control. And the country at the same time suffers huge losses and loses the image of a space power.
    1. bk316
      bk316 26 January 2017 13: 58
      +2
      I don’t even know how to comment

      Well, do not comment.
      For example, I know: well, finally.
    2. arnulla
      arnulla 26 January 2017 20: 23
      0
      And this is wrecking. In fact and in fact.
    3. arnulla
      arnulla 26 January 2017 20: 24
      0
      It’s only a pity that there is no article for this
  7. Olgovich
    Olgovich 26 January 2017 07: 55
    +6
    And we supply the Americans Quality RD 180. .....
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 26 January 2017 11: 49
      0
      Well, the US themselves check them. And naturally, they will not cover anyone in case of problems.
  8. vlad007
    vlad007 26 January 2017 08: 09
    +1
    In the article, not a word about the director’s personality - what kind of person is he? A new appointee or a factory veteran who has gone through all the steps of the factory hierarchy? How old is he, how long has he been working at the factory?
    In my opinion, the article is very superficial. I would not be in a hurry with estimates - we have a lot of fans to write articles for any reason.
    1. tanit
      tanit 26 January 2017 10: 28
      +2
      Ivan Tikhonovich Koptev was born in the village of Lower Kazachye, Zadonsky district, Lipetsk region. He graduated from the Voronezh Polytechnic Institute and the Voronezh State University, candidate of technical sciences. In1975 he came to the Voronezh Mechanical Plant as a master. 1999–2001 - General Director of Ostrogozhsky Plant Aggregate OJSC. 2001-2005 - Deputy General Director for Production, Deputy General Director for Quality - Chief Controller of FSUE "VMZ". 2008–2010 - Deputy General Director for Economics and Finance, VMZ, a branch of the FSUE GKNPTs im. M.V. Khrunicheva. " In August 2010, he was appointed General Director of the Voronezh Mechanical Plant.
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 26 January 2017 12: 11
      +3
      Quote: vlad007

      In my opinion, the article is very superficial. I would not be in a hurry with estimates - we have a lot of fans to write articles for any reason.


      The article is really superficial. But this is more likely to bring information to the audience than an analytical review.
      Missiles always fell and everyone. Only recently, more and more. And in the near future this picture is unlikely to change dramatically for the better - the continuity of generations of unique specialists has been violated. There were luminaries, who were already over 70, the young ones came, but there are simply no specialists from 50-year-olds, aces in their field, who always and everything rested on.
      The process of restoring culture at every stage of production is, first of all, the restoration of this culture in the brains of employees. And these are years and years ...
  9. pts-m
    pts-m 26 January 2017 08: 55
    +3
    Corruption and lack of education will nullify the Russian space.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 26 January 2017 12: 19
      +2
      Where enthusiasts and business people work, there is no corruption. It is obvious that the basic foundations of the favorable environment that should be in such matters are violated.
  10. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 26 January 2017 09: 06
    0
    But they forgot something about Omsk. How is the Angara?
    And then, half a year ago, it was written about complete "krants" somewhere near Moscow. Really in Khimki? And how in the Udmurtians and the Urals?
    In general, publicizing commercial problems is not good.
  11. Old26
    Old26 26 January 2017 10: 16
    +2
    Of course, there are problems and the deadlines will be shifted, but IMHO Roman somewhat exaggerates. And some of his passages are not entirely clear. For instance:

    1.
    25 January passed the information that Roscosmos decided to withdraw ALL engines assembled at Vyksa for the next 5 years. Including those that have already been sent to cosmodromes and even installed on launch vehicles.

    We are talking about the engines of the second and third stages for the Proton-M launch vehicle. Moreover, according to the representative of Roscosmos Igor Burenkov, the question is about the recall of dozens of engines.

    It is clear that we are talking about engines of these two stages. But the phrase made in the last 5 years is not clear. Over the past 5 years, there have been 40 launches of Protons. On the 2nd stage - 4 engines, on the 3rd - 2 engines. Total 6. A simple arithmetic operation gives the sum of 240 engines, how many remained unused, but produced during these 5 years. 12, 18, 24 or much more. Something with the calculations is not entirely clear.

    Return to the factory, full inspection, elimination of the revealed violations will take from three to five months. Considering that the test has established the use of solder that does not comply with the design documentation, this is not a matter of one day.

    Obviously, the launch schedule for launch vehicles is frustrated. According to forecasts, the first start from Baikonur can take place no earlier than June of this year. Accordingly, the remaining on earth satellites Echostar-21 and Hisposat-1F will bring huge losses. By the way, Blagovest should also be launched by Proton ...

    Of course, the schedule will fly. But it is not entirely clear why this should affect the same Echostar-21 and Hisposat-1F. Their launches are scheduled just for June EMNIP, Blagovest yes, as well as three satellites of the Uragan series. Everything else, especially non-satellites, is mainly planned for the 3-4th quarter.

    Meanwhile, the launch of the next crew to the ISS has been scheduled for March 27. The question arises: is it worth risking the lives of Jack Fisher and Fyodor Yurchikhin, given that in terms of the device of the third stage of the Soyuz-U rocket and Soyuz-FG, on which the astronauts are to fly, are identical? And there is the same RD-0110, with which problems constantly arise.

    Novel! do not write nonsense. What does the Soyuz-U have to do with it? For the last 15 years they have been flying exclusively on Soyuz FG, and at the same time there was no problem with 48 starts? Where will they come from now. What constantly arising problems on the RD-0110 are we talking about, when out of 949 launches of carrier rockets with a third stage equipped with this engine, there were only 24 unsuccessful and one partially successful launch. What problems?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 26 January 2017 11: 50
      0
      It is now installed, but Ekhostar 21 was supposed to fly in September last year!
  12. Just a man
    Just a man 26 January 2017 11: 50
    +4
    In 2005, as part of a multi-departmental delegation, he was on an excursion in almost all the production shops of the center named after Khrunicheva. You know what struck me and my colleagues - this is almost ostentatious sloppiness, a low production culture and an auxiliary tool from the time of E. Pugachev. I speak seriously. To put it mildly, we were in some confusion and depression. I asked my comrade, who provides operational work and support at one of the sites, why it is so depressing. He bluntly said that the management is all fucked up .. (in general, it will be waist-deep for you), they have long been with thoughts in Miami. True, about 2 years ago he said that much has been done in terms of improvement. But it seems to me that the fundamental problem is different, we have created a state where the basis is not the development of the country and the well-being of the people, but the smooth functioning of the enrichment of the ruling corporate structures.
  13. twincam
    twincam 26 January 2017 13: 37
    0
    so it is necessary to plant and reduce "effective managers", "born leaders", and not hard workers.
    1. bk316
      bk316 26 January 2017 14: 01
      +3
      so it is necessary to plant and reduce "effective managers", "born leaders", and not hard workers.

      In this case (in the VMZ manual), they are hard workers.
      What to do to plant some manager not related to VSW? fool
  14. Diviz
    Diviz 26 January 2017 14: 05
    0
    and that you can’t have a backup plan. Proton has a problem - well, they took the hangar for use. Then from 2 different products we got the 3rd part, we began its development and production, the proton was discontinued, etc.
  15. boris117
    boris117 26 January 2017 14: 27
    +3
    Quote: Just a human
    we have created a state where the basis is not the development of the country and the well-being of the people, but the smooth functioning of the enrichment of the ruling corporate structures.
    . So, the matter is at the heart of the state, which allows the existence of crooks and thieves of all stripes
    1. Cat moore
      Cat moore 27 January 2017 12: 28
      +1
      And what was the basis of the USSR? There were embezzlers, "crooks and thieves" was no less. Including when Stalin was praised by many here (which Stalin himself, in principle, never denied, unlike his current fans).
  16. Bastinda
    Bastinda 26 January 2017 15: 57
    +3
    It's time for Mr. Rogozin to pull his trampoline ...
  17. iouris
    iouris 26 January 2017 17: 14
    +1
    It is easy to imagine that the employees of enterprises in the aerospace industry have been brought to a bestial state, so they steal. Not solder is stolen, but silver. If they received an adequate salary, they would perceive silver as solder. Who brought the working class to such a state? Or maybe the technology has changed?
    1. Cannonball
      Cannonball 26 January 2017 21: 05
      +1
      It is unlikely that there was a theft. The most obvious reason is rotozeyism and indifference. Well, the desire of high authorities to save at least something.
    2. Awaz
      Awaz 28 January 2017 08: 13
      0
      it's not workers stealing. (although they may steal something, but it is unlikely) This is theft at the level of technology. This is all the so-called rationalization and optimization. Many of the accumulated technologies in the USSR were made in the blood, but they don’t even remember new effective ones, and even if they know about it, then the money overshadows them all ..
  18. dla94
    dla94 26 January 2017 17: 59
    0
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    but about "copper solder" ... for the first time I hear about such a beast, in my opinion, this does not happen

    You are mistaken, there are. P100, P102 for example. But they are not used in rocket technology.
  19. dla94
    dla94 26 January 2017 18: 24
    +2
    Quote: Reserve officer
    but there are simply no specialists of the 50-year-olds, aces in their field, on whom everything has always rested.

    Hm. Where did they go? Maybe they weren’t born at all?
    For reference, at KBHA (the engine designer in question) the salary lead designer in design bureau no higher than 25 k. rub. What can we say about young engineers in those. the Bureau. Enthusiasm is good, but you cannot feed them a family. This is against the background of a huge gap in salaries between the "ordinary" engineers and senior management from the middle level and above. About awards at KBHA have long been forgotten (excluding the leadership of course). So grandfathers sit there until the last - salary + pension, you can live.
  20. Patsyk on Motsyk
    Patsyk on Motsyk 26 January 2017 19: 41
    +6
    I have been living since childhood in Voronezh - where is this very VMZ; Oh guys, guys ... if you knew WHAT was going on there, or rather, WHAT *** was going on there, then you would not be surprised why this happened. My buddy has been working for me there already for about 12 years and accordingly periodically tells how there "every day everything becomes" better "and" better ":"
    - Well, let's start with the fact that the machines there, ahem ... For 30-40 years, and some copies are older; i.e., about what ACCURACY in machining can there be any talk? If they are in the thermal not properly hardening can be done the first time. From the recent - they couldn’t find a normal welder to weld a long pipe, five, FIVE !!! redid times!
    - Personnel! ... Few people know that over the past couple of years there have been reduced a lot of workers because of the "OPTIMIZATION" of production processes and other resources? Old people — who else knew and really knew how to do — either retired or were stupidly cut back on the same “optimization”.
    - Young cadres: it follows from the first, or rather it should "flow in", but it either does not want to "flow in", or after working there a couple of months it "flows" back ... Why ??? Yes, because who will go there for a salary of 12-18 tyrov? So it turns out that in a huge workshop, designed for a couple of dozen machine workers - only he and a few more people remained ... But all sorts of bosses, inspectors and others - who simply prevented a simple working person from laboring with their number, probably already divorced more than themselves workers left in the whole factory! A separate conversation is overalls - without which you even go to the closet for patience, you have no right! And the fact that this "robe" is made of fabric in which if you fasten all the buttons, you can sweat without a bath !; it's nothing; the main thing is that ALL YOUR BUTTONS were fastened on it! ... Shoes there are also given "appropriate" shoes, such that he has already bought normal shoes for himself because it is impossible to work all day in the workshop.
    - Wow, YOURSELF! And in general - a few words about the condition of buildings and structures; in addition to non-breathing work clothes, workshops with malfunctioning and inoperative ventilation are added: the heat and stuffiness in the workshops in the summer is such that he erases his robe every week not from the fact that it is contaminated with industrial pollution, but from the fact that it is soaked with salt from sweat that ... But even in winter it becomes normal.
    - Ah, the most important thing! All the technical equipment for production ... GIVEN TO THE CHINESE to do! ... I generally just in ah ... fell out when he pinned such an "innovation" from the management of their factory! Say (according to their statements) - it’s cheaper there! ... (Yes, let ** show yourself PRESEPTIVES CHINESE BUY - when they go to the institute "twirl" angry because it’s also cheaper!)
    And how many different “charms” are there in the work of this once giant plant - you won’t list all! Sometimes I want to cry from such stories recourse that simple working people don’t appreciate — that they work the last effort on killed equipment in sophisticated workshops, and some kind of manager-cockerel, sonny papa-mama’s for tussing back and forth heaps of unnecessary papers, spreading bureaucracy - will throw himself another a prize in your pocket of several million, or even lard, at the end of the year;
    Such sad things are happening in this once MIGHTY COUNTRY sad And you ask - why did she fall ...
    1. Alexs3524
      Alexs3524 27 January 2017 05: 47
      0
      such a mess around the country. I completely agree with you.
    2. commander
      commander 27 January 2017 06: 00
      0
      One to one like the Unas at the enterprise, especially about the Chinese and managers.
  21. Cannonball
    Cannonball 26 January 2017 21: 09
    +3
    In general, this is a problem not only of Voronezh, but of the entire industry. We optimized the fuck. If the leading experts of space companies in impotence have given up on what is happening in the industry.
  22. Stas57
    Stas57 26 January 2017 21: 55
    0
    So, today we are all specialists in space soldering.
  23. Glory1974
    Glory1974 26 January 2017 23: 36
    0
    I had KShM-ki based on GAZ-66. A commission arrives, verifies the technique. I send double basses to find parts in collective farms. On collective farms they say: such machines have not been produced for so many years.

    Question.
    1. Or fools in the commission.
    2. Or we are fools.
    3. Or maybe such a system?
    Personally, I think the system.
  24. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 30 January 2017 11: 20
    0
    It is necessary to have a reserve of engines, so that if an error does not affect starts. And so from the conveyor and immediately into the rocket it turns out to take off. The buffer should be out of stock, stock.