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Chairman DOSAAF: the status of the organization must be changed

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In order to create a private military company (PMC) on the basis of DOSAAF, the status of the organization needs to be changed, the military-industrial complex cites the words of Colonel-General Alexander Kolmakov of a voluntary society.


Chairman DOSAAF: the status of the organization must be changed


Recently, OSOAVIAHIM's successor celebrated its 90 anniversary. “The task is to return the property of the company, which was lost in the mess of the nineties. It is known that during the period of its Soviet existence, the organization has accumulated a huge material base, becoming in its size the third structure of the country, after the Ministry of Defense and the Academy of Sciences of the USSR. It is time to return to the previous order of admission to DOSAAF, that is, from 14 years, and not from 18, as now, ”noted Kolmakov.

Today’s organization has something to offer to young people of pre-conscription age: “In particular, new training programs are being created for current military occupational specialties. Experiment on the development of recruits VUS "Shooter-paratrooper" for military service in the Airborne Forces and Marines recognized by the Ministry of Defense successful and recommended in constant practice. "

In addition, this year in Novorossiysk, the training complex for the Sailor SEM was launched, in Saper and Svyazist, in Rostov. Also announced the holding of "Engineering Competition", which will be attended by both technical specialists and amateurs.

This year, the Duma will consider a draft law on DOSAAF, which will allow creating the first private military company in the Russian Federation on the basis of the organization. This will allow the Defense Ministry to be freed from many minor tasks, “such as, for example, demining after military operations, providing security for closed facilities, and training military specialists in the initial stages,” the article notes.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 25 January 2017 10: 48
    +9
    Is there money in DOSAAF to contain PMCs? Bullshit. And those functions that were before the 90s must be returned. The recruit must already be prepared, especially since the service has been studying for a year.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 25 January 2017 10: 49
      +8
      We will see with interest what will come of it ...
      1. 210ox
        210ox 25 January 2017 10: 54
        +7
        Pasha, it should work out! I don’t mean PMCs is nonsense in my opinion .. But with the preparation of young people for military service and just education in the spirit of patriotism ..
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        We will see with interest what will come of it ...
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 25 January 2017 10: 57
          +7
          Dima hi I also think that it will work out and I really hope that our, Belarusian DOSAAF, will draw the right conclusions and introduce similar innovations. good
    2. himRa
      himRa 25 January 2017 10: 50
      +6
      Well, on the other hand, this is a good idea for disadvantaged families. take a ticket to life if from 14 years will be!
    3. avt
      avt 25 January 2017 11: 09
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      Does DOSAAF have money to support PMCs?

      Stand from head to foot and everything will be fine in part
      Quote: 210ox
      ?Rave.

      Well, really disappear. DOSAAF also has the material and technical base for the creation of PMCs, which, for the money of the customer, carry out specialized work, only in this way. The move is absolutely correct! The material and technical base is partially transferred to the Ministry of Defense, as it was in the USSR, and on its basis pre-conscription training and support of professionals should be carried out, albeit in the form of PMCs, as the most active and mobile unit. I would go further and, through DOSAAF, the mobile will take up a reserve, it’s better to practice with real iron instead of airsoft, as their National Guard is now in the USA, and before the revolution, it’s practically Cossacks.
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      We will see with interest what will come of it ...

      Exactly what the issue is in implementation and adjustment in the course of development.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 25 January 2017 11: 15
        +3
        DOSAAF has a base for the preparation of PMCs? Don’t tell me .. They were torn apart, or they didn’t have time, it’s hopelessly out of date .. And these guys need private owners everything modern and the best ... Let them try it on the basis of security structures, that's where the loot and spinning along with equipment ..
        Quote: avt
        Quote: 210ox
        Does DOSAAF have money to support PMCs?

        Stand from head to foot and everything will be fine in part
        Quote: 210ox
        ?Rave.

        Well, really disappear. DOSAAF also has the material and technical base for the creation of PMCs, which, for the money of the customer, carry out specialized work, only in this way. The move is absolutely correct! The material and technical base is partially transferred to the Ministry of Defense, as it was in the USSR, and on its basis pre-conscription training and support of professionals should be carried out, albeit in the form of PMCs, as the most active and mobile unit. I would go further and, through DOSAAF, the mobile will take up a reserve, it’s better to practice with real iron instead of airsoft, as their National Guard is now in the USA, and before the revolution, it’s practically Cossacks.
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        We will see with interest what will come of it ...

        Exactly what the issue is in implementation and adjustment in the course of development.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 25 January 2017 11: 21
          +4
          And I want to add. This is similar to an attempt to cut budgetary funds by representatives of the generals. I worked several years ago in a company that rented premises in the regional DOSAAF in Smolensk .. Yes, there were only heads of offices there ..
          Quote: 210ox
          DOSAAF has a base for the preparation of PMCs? Don’t tell me .. They were torn apart, or they didn’t have time, it’s hopelessly out of date .. And these guys need private owners everything modern and the best ... Let them try it on the basis of security structures, that's where the loot and spinning along with equipment ..
          Quote: avt
          Quote: 210ox
          Does DOSAAF have money to support PMCs?

          Stand from head to foot and everything will be fine in part
          Quote: 210ox
          ?Rave.

          Well, really disappear. DOSAAF also has the material and technical base for the creation of PMCs, which, for the money of the customer, carry out specialized work, only in this way. The move is absolutely correct! The material and technical base is partially transferred to the Ministry of Defense, as it was in the USSR, and on its basis pre-conscription training and support of professionals should be carried out, albeit in the form of PMCs, as the most active and mobile unit. I would go further and, through DOSAAF, the mobile will take up a reserve, it’s better to practice with real iron instead of airsoft, as their National Guard is now in the USA, and before the revolution, it’s practically Cossacks.
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          We will see with interest what will come of it ...

          Exactly what the issue is in implementation and adjustment in the course of development.
          1. user
            user 25 January 2017 11: 29
            +4
            And I want to add. This is similar to an attempt to cut budget funds by representatives of the generals.


            This is not an attempt, but it is really a cut of the remaining state property under the guise of regular ideas about state interests.
            Nothing new, remember Chubais and his vouchers.
      2. your1970
        your1970 25 January 2017 11: 42
        +6
        DOSAAF also has the material and technical base for the creation of PMCs, which, for the money of the customer, carry out specialized work, only in this way. The move is absolutely correct!
        -NO bases !! None of the word at all!
        Which PMC?
        1) either they are a state structure, then for free: simulators, equipment, etc., or they are a private desk - and then everything is for MONEY: mine detectors, cars, etc.
        2) tasks for PMCs - "demining" for a private trader. Which private trader might need mine clearance and where?
        3) there was a fatal case - who will pay the family? If it is MO, then no matter how they steal / cheat / corrupt, ALWAYS exist, it will be possible to sue him, write to the president, etc. If this is PMC (private !!!) - it exists today, but tomorrow (conditionally) it does not exist — it closed, went bankrupt, and escaped.
        Insurance? So it is necessary that it lasts 18 years in the insurance market - so that children pay a pension. Are there many such offices? And God forbid the cost of insurance ...

        IMHO - uncle just wants to create an office for issuing money from the budget ...
        If this is the training of pre-conscripts, I with both hands FOR !! At a new level, the army is vital.
        let military sappers do mine ...
  2. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 25 January 2017 11: 06
    +2
    The problem is that all these "innovations", "undertakings", etc. have a focal character and operate for a limited amount of time - they exist until the amount allocated within the framework of this project is "drunk", as a rule, this amount is limited as and "Wishlist" of those who organize all this. DOSAAF was a STATE SYSTEM aimed at preparing young people for service in the armed forces, and quite effective, as long as it was mandatory. Now it is simply impossible to create anything even close, approximate.
    1. MPK105
      MPK105 25 January 2017 11: 31
      +6
      Yes, such a system as in the USSR was no longer possible to recreate, unfortunately ... On the basis of DOSAAF, in our city, in fact, a driving school-B, S. What is there PMC ...
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 January 2017 11: 08
    +3
    In order to create a private military company (PMC) on the basis of DOSAAF

    Training in military registration specialties is understandable - DOSAAF has always been engaged in this, and in Soviet times it was even excellent (he himself at one time graduated from the DOSAAF Naval School under the "Minder-Light Diver" program for service in the Navy). But what does PMC have to do with it? The general is clearly in a state of health.
  4. Zaval
    Zaval 25 January 2017 11: 08
    +1
    In my time, DOSAAF was deciphered: The Rest House of the Decommissioned from the Air Force and Navy. I think he will remain so. A ranting about the content of PMCs is complete nonsense.
    1. Homo
      Homo 25 January 2017 11: 11
      +2
      Quote: ZAVal
      In my time, DOSAAF was deciphered: The Rest House of the Decommissioned from the Air Force and Navy. I think he will remain so.

      Have you come up with this crap? Or did the curators send a cheat sheet?
    2. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 25 January 2017 12: 00
      +1
      Holiday Home Discharged from the Air Force and Navy

      Let's start with the fact that DOSAAF trained personnel from pre-prizniks for the army and the "decommissioned" could not even get there. I wonder what time you lived, that you don't even know what this society was for.
      ZAVal is evident in the brain, moreover, complete.
  5. Skeptic Self-Taught
    Skeptic Self-Taught 25 January 2017 11: 44
    +2
    He laughed for a long time both at the article and at the comments.
    DOSAAF can bring up something in modern conditions? "A ticket to life", as someone wrote here.
    Oh, they made fun ...
    So, let's begin...
    The ticket to life is only for those male residents of single-industry towns and villages who want to dump them into more "decent habitats" at the expense of the army and its capabilities. At least by entering the Ministry of Internal Affairs after the army.
    What can this organization bring up in terms of patriotism? Do not tell, for God's sake ...
    By the age of 14, a young individual either dreams of ditching by entering a university with a department, or begins to mix beer with vodka. And he will not think about any DOSAAF, if they do not give him a free license. Why? Yes, because kindergartens and elementary schools provide SERVICES, and do not engage in patriotic education. Upbringing in a family, even if it is systematic in nature, the young individual completely breaks down about the "young consumers" with whom he communicates in the same school. Hehe.
    So until there is a UNIFIED education system, starting from kindergarten and ending with school, DOSAAF is a cut of dough by 90%.
    Good luck, gentlemen.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 25 January 2017 12: 09
      0
      Oh, they made fun ...

      Are you familiar with the system of training specialists in DOSAAF? Did you yourself have to study in this society? I will repeat myself especially for you - in 1971 I graduated from the DOSAAF Marine School under the program of light divers minders. Prepared for service on missile and torpedo boats. Matbaza was excellent, the teachers were naval officers (sometimes retired), the training was just super. The conscript came to the fleet not only with knowledge of his business (there was no need to go through the crew), but also with knowledge of naval terminology and even knitting of sea knots.
      1. Skeptic Self-Taught
        Skeptic Self-Taught 25 January 2017 12: 26
        +2
        captain.
        What are you telling me about? About 1971? Nothing that 2017 is now and the upbringing of youth has undergone WELL VERY strong changes.? Nothing morality is completely different now?
        So at this stage we have a mute conversation with the deaf. Or am I talking about Thomas, you are talking about Yerema.
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 25 January 2017 12: 35
          0
          Firstly, no captain, rotmistr60, should not be confused with a visitor captain.
          Nothing in 2017 and the upbringing of youth has undergone WELL VERY strong changes.

          And nothing, that DOSAAF found its name. And that youth is very different. I don’t know what kind of youth you know or represent, but there are a lot of young people who want to serve, and before that get additional knowledge. And it’s good that not all DOSAAF schools fell apart during this time.
          we have a dumb conversation with a deaf

          And if you are deaf or dumb to the Soviet period, then this is your problem (either you do not remember this period, or your parents did not set you on the right path).
          1. Skeptic Self-Taught
            Skeptic Self-Taught 25 January 2017 12: 51
            +1
            rotmistr60
            Do you even understand what I wrote in your first post to which you replied? I wrote that I need a SYSTEM of education. Without a system, all organizations: DOSAAF, Young Guard and others like them - are doomed to failure and cut the dough.
            Nobody denies the benefits, but let's look at the reality - the army is now basically a springboard for residents of "depressed monotowns" - isn't it? Look at the big cities - Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg. Yes, young people are different, but for every 1 person who wants to serve there are 100 people who want to be cut off.
            Those who are interested, who really need it - they already attend the necessary circles, sections, thematic meetings. But the general trend that was outlined in the 80s of the last century, when the army was denigrated, now we are reaping its fruits. When in the late 80s, and even in the 90s it was considered valor not to serve, but to slope, they grew up, what will they teach their children?
            And you create DOSAAF and hundreds of other other organizations - if there is no education system, then this is all patching of Trishkin's caftan.
            And the last.
            There is no need to translate the arrows and divert the conversation to another steppe - like "And if you are deaf or dumb by the Soviet period, then this is your problem" (c). I wrote to you - that you do not want to hear me, and write exclusively your own, outside the subject of the original message.
            PS Sophistry - it is a double-edged sword, if cho.
  6. Galleon
    Galleon 25 January 2017 12: 02
    +4
    It's a pretty good deal to declare mine clearance a secondary task! Sapper units do not require payment when performing their risky work. PMCs have to be paid, and very well (by my modest standard) pay for clearance, risk, mark-ups and markups. Create a commercial situation where it has never been? "Raise the loot"? Where? In Syria? Who will pay? Or does the director of DOSAAF want himself a bonus, like the chief of post? I would like to be mistaken, but the motives for such statements are somehow on the surface. but then it's a shame.
  7. stas
    stas 25 January 2017 12: 24
    +1
    Bullshit, private military companies are prohibited by the constitution.
    But if the king wants, then the constitution is not a hindrance.
    To please the king and stay at the trough all will go.
  8. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 25 January 2017 12: 26
    +1
    PMC - means private. DOSAAF was still a state organization. A new privatization is being prepared. I fully understand the enthusiasm of its chairman. So what?
  9. raid14
    raid14 25 January 2017 12: 27
    +1
    Everyone pulls a blanket over himself when he smells of big budget money.
    The main task of society was and will be the training of pre-conscripts, drivers, signalmen, sappers, paratroopers.
    Let the Ministry of Emergency Situations be engaged in mine clearance there and personnel and insurance and so on.
  10. ZVS
    ZVS 25 January 2017 12: 28
    +1
    All this nonsense with PMCs is nothing more than an opportunity to get money from the budget and cut it.
    In Russia there is no legislative base that would allow the creation of PMCs. Here, not only the law is needed, here the Constitution must be changed. Both in DOSAAF and in the deputy environment sit cunningly ... opy businessmen.
  11. 34 region
    34 region 25 January 2017 12: 52
    0
    I goof off from the last paragraph! PMCs will free the MO from many secondary tasks! The municipality carries out tasks, and PMCs provide services. Either we are intensely optimizing, then we are intensively squandering. First we collect private security companies in Rosguard, then we create PMCs for protection. Where is the logic? PMC will train military specialists? No. It will provide services. Already sickened by this service policy. Nobody will work soon. All will only provide services! So we don’t have money for a social network or an army, or suddenly a lot of money for services appears! Not bad! So what do we have? Is there money in the budget or not? There is no money for medicine and pensions, but there are services! No words just !!!
  12. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 25 January 2017 18: 14
    0
    The article says the DOSAAF base has expanded. in Cheboksary, not a single Yak-52 has remained in recent years, An-2 is breathing completely, the water base has been closed, the veterans who are out of work are trying to pull out the naval training, and the real naval officers have been leaked. DOSAAF shooting range and DOSAAF driving school is more reminiscent of private organizations. during the opening of the month of military work, DOSAAF asks teachers to get rid of schools in schools, bring us MMG AK for the assembly disassembly competition. and Kolmakov’s decision to create PMCs on the basis of DOSAAF and even from the age of 14. Is he creating his own private pocket group of troops? I respected him for giving Serdyukov in the face, and now he is disappointing me ...